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Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The

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Welcome back All the Smoke. Two.

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We in the building with some new merchant. And

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now y'all see it. You don't

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see it, you see

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they see it. Man. We want to welcome

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to the show one of the bright young talents

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in the w n B A. And I'm

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gonna do this in two parts, Sabrina,

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and then I'm gonna let you announce your own last name

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because I think it's the most mispronounced name

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in sports.

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No, you still looked it up your school,

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school, your nest

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school. Yeah, went out there. Stop sucking

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up on it, damn it. That's why I didn't

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want to because I wasn't sure. I was like, let me

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just tell half her tel the world what it really is so

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we can we can get off to a good stars. I'm just gonna call

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your brain. That's fine, all right? Cool? So

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bar are you girl? Want to Creek to be

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exact, shout out the bay. Um, tell

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us about your upbringing. I know you're really close knit

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family. Talk to us about what life and one of

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Creek was like, Yeah, born and raised, Um,

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love the bay. You know, the Warriors

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always went to the games. Um.

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But you know, I grew up with two brothers immigrant

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family. They all immigrated here, so it

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was a grind like growing up. Um

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you know, um Romania immigranted

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from Mania. Yeah, I came from Europe and UM

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drop us off at the park half the time. We'd play

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for ten hours a day and then go

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to school and UM, yeah,

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so it's been great. Um, I love the Bay.

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I always go back and UM,

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yeah, you're a twin. I got twins.

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I got identical thirteen year old boys,

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but you're a you have a twin brother. What's

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that dynamic like? Because I remember the twins like

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having their own little language when they were little. They

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couldn't even speak yet, but we'd have them on the baby

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monitors and they'd be going back and forth laughing like, yeah,

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what the hell are they talking about? Did you guys have any kind

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of special twins stuff? Absolutely?

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Um, I mean he said that

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was his first word. My first word was his name.

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His first word was my name. But

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honestly, it's a whole different world. Like

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people really don't get how close twins

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actually are, and we do absolutely

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everything together. I probably wouldn't be where I

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am today if it wasn't for him, because we got

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in fist fights, we punched

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each other, beat each other's asses on

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the court, like, did absolutely everything.

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So he's really pushed me to become,

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um, you know what I am today and honestly

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still does it. How did you find

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a game basketball? Like at what age? I know you said

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they dropped you off, but when did you fall in love with the game.

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I was probably in like third

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or four fourth grade and I

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was between tennis and basketball and

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tennis you need a partner, and my brothers

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would just like want to hoop. So I ended

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up being like, all right, I can't. I'm

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not hitting against you know, the wall to myself.

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So I got bored and I was like, all right, I'll go hoop then too.

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So from that age, like third fourth grade,

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the men were there at lunchtime and I was like,

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all right, I want to play too, then let's go. And

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so ever since then, I fell in love with the game

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and I haven't been able to put the ball down. You know

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you had it? Are you better than your brother or when did

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you pass them? Absolutely? When did you? I

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know he wanted admit it, But when did you pass your brother in

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hoping in high school? It

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took me a little while know how mad i'd be if my secret

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could ever say she could whoop my ass in basketball.

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He's still mad. And I played pro and

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he's still mad. I

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have to admit. At one point my older

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sister was one of the top players in Texas

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and she had to put it on. She beat me a couple

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of times for a year. That

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ship stopped quick. So he uses his strength

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like when we used to play, and like I beat

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him and then he'd be like all right, and then he just

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backed me down, backed me down getting to the keys,

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like now what you're gonna do? I'm like, wro that's not even fair

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straight up, let's just play. Yes, I'm

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gonna one way. Who did

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you idolize? Growing up? Um

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idolized? Is idolized Steph for

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sure being from the Bay and yeah,

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growing up and him coming in, I

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was just that young rookie. And

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you remember that people were a little do

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we like him or not on

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the team because it was because he didn't

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believe in stuff. I didn't believe in the organization

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as the whole well, it was the Monte

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Ellis like, do we keep Monte orlie

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Go? And I was the last old head there. I

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can't be here with a bunch of babies. I

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can't go out with none of them. We definitely

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couldn't do that. Stuff was a baby.

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He was what like, But

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I admitted I had no idea

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he was gonna be who he yesterday. I admitted

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that. But he knew why

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someone not tell them why I was leaving. He was like, yeah,

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your career, you want to

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go somewhere, But yeah,

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I regret that. Yeah,

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Steph Becky Hammond, Yeah,

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we'll talk about her. I loved um

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watching her at the point guard position. Kobe

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with the Lakers for sure. I mean that was our

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Michael Jordan's Yeah,

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so um him Steve

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Nash at the point guard position. I watched so much

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like NBA growing up with brothers, so

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that was really like who I watched,

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idolized and even now like Diana Tarrossi.

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And it's crazy because we're playing in the league together

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and it's like I remember being young and watching

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her and I'm like, yeah, she's about twenty years

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older than I am. Right, who

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would you say you're patting your game after? I

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would say I really try and

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take a little bit everybody. Everybody.

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That's yeah, it's like

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I try and take like ever

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since I was young. It's like, oh, I like the way step shoots.

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All right, I'm gonna shot from really far. But then it's like, but

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I really like how Steve Nash comes off the pick and

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roll. So I watched that and then

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I would just take little things of of players

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that I liked and was like, all right, I'm gonna watch film on

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Luca donshek how he's able to pull back. And

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it's just like finding all the players that I

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like and trying to put them on one. You know, it's

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funny you say that because we just have Roy Jones

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on the show Boxer. He said he took

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something from all the grades listed,

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like twelve grades. Yeah, it took one thing from

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all of them in But it's what you could do with

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other sports too, Like I really like

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watch other sports and it's like, oh,

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that footworks different, and that's that could

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be used on the court, or like even

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tennis, like how quick they are latterly and able

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to push off. Like I like watching other

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sports too because I think it could give you an advantage.

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What do you remember was about high school? A hundred and nineteen

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and nine. Yeah,

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I didn't lose much school record

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points put in the

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basket. I guess you can see. I guess you could shoot a little

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bit. She said, how was high school?

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It was great? Um? The

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hard part was I never lost. So when

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I got to college it was like a rude awakening.

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I lost seven I think in my first year

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in in college, and I was like,

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I can't lose. Yeah, I almost transferred.

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I was like, this is awful, and it was like seven.

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Um, but high school was was the best.

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Just like eight hours of school and then

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it's like all right, I'm gonna go hoop now, and then

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you have a game and it's like, oh, I had forty four last

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night, and then you go to the next game the next

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day. It was just it was fun

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and like youthful. And then as you keep

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going like more pressured, harder

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games, like injuries. It just

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yeah, but high school was fun. Me

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and you both one of McDonald's

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What me and you both wanted to McDonald's

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MVP. But she actually got the trophy? I know,

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but what happening? What happened? So I had no

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I didn't actually get the trophy. I had

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the best stats I missed. I was a leading score

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everything by far, and Kobe said

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he thought,

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I said

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you didn't win it and

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gone stuff with

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the two guard. I was in three guard. I bought

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out. Everybody knew it. He said I want m

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VP because he thought I wanted because I had the best game. So

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in my mind, I want question

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me and you both want the m v P. The McDonald's

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game. How did that feel? I

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know how it felt for me? Crazy

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um Honestly, I

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went in super under the radar. I was the only

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player that hadn't committed to a college. All

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the other players were like Yukon UM,

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Stanford, Tennessee, the

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big dogs, and I was the only one that was that

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was uncommitted. And so I just remember, like before

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the game when the media comes in, like I had

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zero interviews, not one person came up

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to interview me. And I was like, all right, like this is

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going to motivate me. So I showed up

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to the game, I came off the bench and then I

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was like all right, I'm gonna just shoot. And I hit like seven

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threes and then one m v P and I was like,

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all right, this is the start of interview.

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Tell you. I mean I think she had the if

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fact that she could have went out of high school. Yeah,

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I think just the

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how everybody was talking about and how your name

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was ringing, you know, going into college, everybody

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she could be one of the ones for the first woman to go

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straight out of high school. That would have been dope. That

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had been cool. Yeah. There's so many rules though. I think you have

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to be one any years

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from high school and

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you have to be twenty one or graduate from

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the contest like football. That's how they do football, right,

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Yeah, that's crazy. Um. But

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in the process, the number one point guard the

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two thousand sixteen class. You just said

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you were a late commit. How did Oregon win you over?

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I just didn't want to be like everyone else. Everyone

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was committing to all these schools

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that were known for winning, and

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I was like, I kind of want to go do something that

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no one's done at a school

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that has the potential to be up there in Oregon.

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I mean, with the funding from Niagive, Oregan is

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so dope. People who haven't in the Eugene I

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went to u c l A. When we went to Oregon, we had a

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blast every time. Girls. It

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was popping cool little bars

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and it's such a yes.

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It's like having Phil Knight come to your game.

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Tinker Hatfield walk in like it's

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dope. They're like, oh, what shoose you guys wanted there? He's

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over there like designing Jordan's

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Yeah, like it's cool. So when

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I went there for my official I was like, this

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could feel like home. Like football

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games, everything's about the student athletes.

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They're like everything is about sports.

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So I was like, all right, I want to

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do something that hasn't been done. I love the

10:32

coaching staff, and um,

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it turned out to be, you know, great

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experience. It's hard to not be a sneaker head being

10:39

a yeah, I'm looking

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at the one of the kind of hard. It's kind

10:43

of hard too many you're considered

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the goat out there in Oregon. But what

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was your college experience like

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with you know, fandom and and just moving

10:52

along just in your regular day. Obviously you did

10:54

what you did on the court, but what was life like off the court

10:56

for you? It it was gradual, So

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I think that helps. Like, you know, the US year,

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people would ask me to take pictures of the team,

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thinking I was the manager, and

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then it was like, oh wait, that's who that

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is. And then it was like, you know, year two, year three,

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it's like we get to two final fours and then

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you know it's we're beat Team

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USA and ore, you know, the best team

11:15

and like arguably college sports

11:17

my senior year and so it was a gradual

11:20

kind of climb. But I think the cool thing to see

11:23

was like we averaged two thousand fans

11:25

my first year and my last year

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we averaged like eleven thousand, and so

11:30

be able to see like the little girls and the boys

11:32

that would show up to games, and it's just like, this

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is really what it's about. You know. It's

11:37

like about inspiring these kids

11:39

to want to play and be better. And so that

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was just a humbling experience and hopefully I

11:44

can continue to do that in the pros as

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well. Absolutely, the triple douvil,

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you've made it look easy somehow, you and Russell

11:51

Westbrook having neck for that. But do you remember

11:53

your first one in college? You had? Damn

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it's for real, right, And I got

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with on a couple of them. My coach wanted to take

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me out with nine. Come on,

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you got to know better. That's what I'm saying. I

12:06

went talk to him for a week,

12:08

but we'd be up by like seventy and he was like

12:10

the whole team to make sure you get that one. Everyone's

12:14

boxing out, and then I'm yeah, probably

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high school. I know I had a quadruple

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double in high school. I had some steals in

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there, but like our

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stats were never up in

12:26

high school, like all the little billboards

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was was points, So I half the time had

12:30

no idea. I was just yeah,

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I was just trying to play and if

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I was the wing, and I was like, rebounding

12:37

is the easiest way to get the ball, so I

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would just go out there and rebound. Yeah, you

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missed the n I L phase.

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How big do you think that could have been? Um

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while you were in college. I'm hurt.

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I'm real hurt. It's

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it's cool to see these kids making money now

12:56

it's hard, like you you don't have time for a job,

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You don't have time for a lot of things, and it's like

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if your parents aren't sending you money

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and helping you out, it's like it's not

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easy all the time, like getting through day to day right,

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Like they have flights. They want to come out and see you want

13:10

to fly home for the holidays, like that stipend

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isn't that big? No,

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So it would have been it would have been definitely

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um a plus. But I think at the end it was

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kind of a good thing because it wasn't a distraction

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for me. It was just like grind who

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take care of school, graduate and let

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everything else come one the times. Well,

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that's the one thing I think about. I think it's a double edged

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sword to your point right there, because obviously, like

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you said, if you not making ends meet, that money

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is great, But then you gotta think, we're seventeen

13:38

eighteen with a couple hundred thousand dollars. That's

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gonna obviously derail a lot of kids

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at that time because you can't tell them ship to begin with.

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So let me get a couple hundred thousand and seventeen

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eighteen with no kind of money management anything.

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That's dangerous and that society they don't talk about yeah

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at all. And it's like then you

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start posting and doing all

13:56

these media deals and this like well did

13:58

you watch film forget? Did you here? Yeah?

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Did you go in the gym? Because I used to I

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would have had no time like I had practice.

14:05

I'd work on the morning, go to school. I practiced

14:07

in the evening, and like, I wouldn't

14:09

have had time to do anything else. Just

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grab your relationship with coach Kenny Grays

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then instant smile coming

14:20

right here. You know those coaches that

14:22

you just have like a love hate relationship. Yeah,

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yeah, that's one of them. Yeah, that's

14:27

one of them. He would He knew the buttons

14:29

to push to get me piste

14:31

off, and um

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yeah, I'm really really thankful for like

14:36

him seeing the value

14:38

and you know, bringing me to Oregon and knowing the

14:40

potential I had, and um

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yeah, I mean if it wasn't for him, who

14:45

knows what my career would have turned out. So but

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yeah, he's the best. He knew what buttons to push, and

14:50

you know what he had to do to kind of get me motivated

14:52

and going. But he's definitely

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one of the best coaches that I've had. What's the best advice

14:57

he's giving. I

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think it would be focusing on the fundamentals.

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He's so old school. He doesn't like the

15:04

whole like between legs, behind the back, no

15:07

look pat like all these you know, turnovers,

15:09

just make the simple play. And he was

15:11

so kind of old school like

15:13

John Wooden ish in that way. He always

15:15

had quotes of you know John Wooden up

15:18

on the board and he was just a simple,

15:20

a simple person and just demanded

15:22

excellence in the simple tasks.

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You said you had unfinished business at Oregon

15:37

and went back your saying year like that decision,

15:39

knowing that she was bigger than life at that point, and

15:41

decided to go back. What brought

15:43

that decision up? When the brand

15:45

was right there, you go to the bank and get whatever

15:48

you want out of it right there here. It

15:51

was hard and I decided within

15:53

like five to

15:55

ten minutes of like the deadline, like the night

15:57

before. So your last minute person to sounds

15:59

like very yeah, just

16:02

wait to the end. And then I get something

16:04

tells me the right decision. If I do it too early,

16:06

I have too much time to think. So I feel with packing and

16:08

I hate it, Like I packed my best the morning

16:11

right right to the moment. I packed that ship early. It's

16:13

a problem. I just you know, I was like, Okay,

16:16

how would I feel going? How would I feel staying?

16:18

And it was like I didn't feel right telling my

16:20

team like yeah, I'm leaving right you

16:23

only like I only had four years in college

16:25

and we had lost. We

16:27

should have you know, if we had won a national

16:30

championship, I think it would have been my last year. That

16:32

makes sense. Yeah, but having lost in

16:34

the final four, it was like, nah, I

16:37

still want to go and prove, you

16:39

know that I have some things

16:42

that I have to take care of, and sadly it got

16:44

cut short. But people

16:47

don't understand that college bond, though in sports is special.

16:49

I mean that's some Obviously, high school is dope, same

16:51

thing. I had a blast in high school at that college bond

16:53

with the people that you'll have in the in your

16:55

corner for the rest of your life, you know, especially if, like you said,

16:57

have unfinished this. I got something to go finish.

17:00

So yeah, COVID cut the

17:03

season short. That was the only

17:06

ship that was stopping us from winning a national

17:08

championship too. Yeah,

17:11

but yeah, you know, you're right, like once you

17:13

go pro, you understand like college

17:16

is like the yes,

17:18

and then you go to the Pro and it's like every man for

17:20

themselves. Everyone wants to contract, everyone

17:23

has to you know, perform, and so it's

17:25

a different beast in itself. So I'm really

17:27

happy I stayed and was able to enjoy like

17:30

one more Yearly April seventeenth,

17:32

two thousand twenty, the number

17:35

one overall picked to the New York Liberty

17:37

Um. What do you remember the most

17:39

about from that moment and how excited

17:41

was the chat party? Yeah,

17:44

but it was in the middle of COVID, so there was like seven

17:46

people there because it would have looked bad on TV.

17:49

It was cool. It was just like I couldn't

17:51

I couldn't really hear her say my name. The connection

17:53

was so bad. But like

17:56

my family kind of started hitting me, and then I was like, oh,

17:58

ship, I think that was me that they called

18:01

because I wasn't gonna Yeah, I wasn't

18:03

gonna expect it. Everyone's like, oh, you know you're going

18:05

one, and I'm like, you hear it. Until

18:07

you hear it and sign the little paper, you

18:09

know, it's not it's not the same. So uh,

18:13

it was pretty cool. It was like I worked

18:15

for this my whole life and had always, you

18:17

know, talked about it in third fourth grade like oh, I want

18:19

to play in the w n B A, and so it

18:21

was like pretty surreal once I got drafted,

18:24

like oh yeah, I got here, and

18:26

now there's so much more work to do. But I can tell

18:28

my little self like you did it number

18:30

one. You just do it right. So

18:33

your first season is in the wubble? What

18:36

was that like? Yeah,

18:41

I was going up. I didn't want to see none

18:43

of the other players, so I would go

18:45

up straight to the room. Didn't hang out,

18:47

Den Bond grab the food is in the

18:49

cafeteria and the hotel where

18:52

everyone was there hanging out, and it's like, no,

18:55

I play these people tomorrow, Like I'm not hanging

18:57

out with you?

18:58

Ye do

19:01

so? Or from my hotel room, I could

19:04

look down into the pool and everyone was like hanging

19:06

out at the pool and I'm like, y'all stay out

19:08

there and get some Burton.

19:11

Yeah, got

19:14

it? Chip? How do you feel about that?

19:17

I want I want her to come over to New York.

19:20

I'm working on the off season plans here.

19:24

Um yeah, I mean so happy for

19:26

her. Um, she deserves it.

19:28

She was on a really good team and she was able to learn

19:30

from a lot of those vets and um

19:33

yeah, I mean hopefully you could see her in a Liberty

19:35

jersey. I'm pitching the

19:38

fastest player in the w n

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b A only six games into your

19:42

professional career. Triple double twelve

19:45

and ten. How

19:48

is it so easy?

19:51

It's really not. But that

19:54

was pretty cool because a lot of people had told

19:56

me that I wouldn't be in high school. I told me I wouldn't

19:58

be able to do in college, and college they told me I won't

20:00

be able to do it in the pros. And so

20:03

obviously I only had one last season, which was not

20:05

Okay, I'll be having a lot more next season.

20:08

But um, kind of coming back from injury

20:10

and figuring out like, oh yeah, I can still do I

20:12

can still play my game and do what I have to

20:15

do. UM at the professional level

20:17

was it was nice to see bad

20:19

ankle sprain grade three

20:22

keeps you out the remainder of the season. You're

20:24

finally here on the big stage, having a good season,

20:27

an injury cuts that season short. What's the mental

20:29

process like for you? I'm still going through

20:31

it a year and a half, two years later, Um,

20:34

still rehabbing And that was

20:36

my first like injury, and yeah,

20:39

so it took a lot. Like physically,

20:42

I think that's the easiest part, like figuring

20:44

out like you're gonna work and you're gonna rehab,

20:46

that part is not the issue. I think mentally, like

20:49

I came back too soon and what was eager to play

20:51

last year in my first season, and then it was like,

20:54

well, you're playing at and

20:57

it's like I think it was it's a whole

20:59

process is of like just

21:02

be patient, work hard, get really

21:04

healthy, and then your game will do

21:06

what your game has to do. So yeah, it

21:08

was unfortunate, but I think seeing bigger

21:10

picture, it's like I'd rather, you know,

21:13

endure that in year one than in year nineteen

21:15

because my body's at one is

21:17

going to react, you know, yeah, I mean, but

21:20

it's it's to me that's dope to hear you

21:22

say that the big picture because as a as

21:24

a young athlete, we normally don't see that like damn,

21:26

I gotta get back out there, like I can play, I'll

21:28

be all right. But to understand that it's a

21:30

marathon not a sprint at a young age, that's it's

21:32

it's important, boy. And I think

21:34

the big one was the pressure to like

21:37

everyone, yeah New York And it was

21:39

like it was in my third game in the season and

21:41

it was like it was so anticipated,

21:44

like this season and then be like yeah,

21:46

I'm out. And then all of last year it

21:49

was like I was playing on like a wooden leg

21:51

and it and it hurt, and then it's like then you see

21:53

the people switch like, oh, she's not

21:55

really good, she's not and then it's like, Okay, this

21:57

is really like I just have to focus on me. I

22:00

have to get right and then everything

22:02

else will take care of itself. I mean,

22:04

you locked in first game back. So

22:07

with the mamba jersey on game

22:09

winner Barclays, what's

22:11

going on, I just had to set the tone. Let

22:15

me know, let it be. No, I know y'all probably

22:17

got first game

22:19

back game winner. Yeah.

22:22

I honestly jumped about it the night before. I

22:25

really did. Yeah, I really did.

22:28

That's no bullshit, Like I really

22:30

was like, I'm gonna hit a game winner if it gets to

22:33

that point tomorrow. And

22:35

so right when coach

22:37

was drawn up to play, like I was just

22:39

smiling. I was like, oh, yeah, here it is. And

22:42

so it was cool. It was

22:44

like my family was there, was able to watch

22:46

me for the first time since college because

22:48

of the bubble season, and so it

22:51

was it was rewarding to be able to have

22:53

done that at home in front of a crowd

22:55

for the first time and kind of just like a pat

22:57

on the back for like what I had endured

23:00

the Dimanda j you walking in there?

23:02

Oh yeah, I put it on and I like to don't

23:05

forget represent at

23:07

all times. What was your thoughts on your first taste

23:09

of the playoffs. It

23:12

was really it was intense and I love

23:14

it. I love the whole whole different level and

23:16

regnization. Yeah, it was.

23:19

It's like you're not resting, you know, ever you're

23:21

playing forty if you have to. There's no you

23:24

know, you don't have tomorrow to be like, oh, I'll play better

23:26

today. It's it's like, you know, now they changed

23:28

it though. Now there's it's a three game series

23:31

for for all the teams instead of a one and done.

23:34

Um that first round yeah,

23:36

yeah, so the last

23:38

teams get a three series, which is

23:40

cool. But I like the pressure of like,

23:43

this is it, Yeah, this is it one and done

23:45

and every possession counts.

23:47

Yeah, every possession, every basket,

23:49

every turnover. Like it

23:51

felt like March madness, which was fun

23:53

because I hadn't felt that since my junior year. So

23:56

I was like, oh, this is exciting, another level

23:58

of the game. How are you

24:00

getting ready for the new season? Um,

24:04

I just deadlifted two pounds yesterday,

24:06

so I probably pulled

24:08

both hands trains hurt.

24:10

I'm pulling a handstrain thinking about it. I

24:12

don't know if it's the back, I don't know what. Um.

24:18

Yeah, I'm trying to get bulletproof for that, but

24:21

um really, the main part of it is physically

24:23

like getting really strong, feeling

24:25

comfortable, confident, and then hooping

24:28

as well, getting like being able to work on the

24:30

things that I wasn't able to last offseason when I was

24:32

just able to rehab. So I'm

24:35

excited. I I feel like it's going to

24:37

be a good one. Where do you feel like you're at healthwise,

24:41

I'm I'd say,

24:43

yeah, so I have three more months to the

24:46

last is like conditioning and

24:48

then like being able to shoot and work out

24:51

when I'm really tired, like the end of the game

24:53

stuff. So other than that though, shot

24:55

feels really good. And yeah, it's

24:57

like riding a bike for you give us a give

24:59

us an average day, average day in l A. You say

25:01

you're training in the off seat and somewhere does it start? Win? Does it

25:03

in? Usually nine

25:05

am is like court time. So

25:07

I go like nine to nine thirty as

25:10

of now, just because I have three months to kind

25:12

of build up, and then I go to

25:14

PT rehab for two and a half hour. Let me on

25:16

a little bit. Let let's break it down for all the youngsters

25:19

who are watching. So, what kind of stuff are you working on on the

25:21

court. So now it's more

25:23

repetition, so it's more like spot

25:26

shots off the move, um

25:28

touches around the basket. So the

25:30

duration is shorter, but it's more intense

25:33

and harder. Game speed, game speed,

25:35

to just build up the endurance to be able to

25:37

go like a two hour session is like simulated

25:39

game. So that's where I'm at now

25:42

for the next probably three weeks,

25:44

and then we'll go into the next phase. Um

25:47

so doing that, and then I go two and a half hours

25:49

of strength PT rehab,

25:51

which is like lifting, massage

25:54

and band work, core

25:57

arms, tedious ship. You

25:59

gotta do stuff you don't like like you love it. Yeah,

26:02

all the little things rolling out, the

26:04

worst everything. So usually two

26:06

and a half hours of that, and then I'll

26:09

either have another PT session or

26:12

I'll go back home and do like ride

26:15

the bike or do some kind of like cardio

26:18

with less impact, and then hot tub,

26:20

cold tub norma tech watch

26:22

the NBA games that are on TV. It's

26:25

a pro do

26:28

was just add a joint to it. That's a

26:30

pro day. Yeah, we're gonna talk about our brother Kobe

26:33

now, um, you know we we we love

26:35

hearing stories about him on this on this show.

26:37

Obviously he meant some mean to both of us, and

26:39

and you had a very special bond with him.

26:42

Um, talk to us about when you first met him,

26:44

what that was like? Yeah that was

26:47

who? When was that? Um?

26:49

Three years ago? I would say

26:51

three years ago. He and

26:53

Gig and some of her teammates

26:56

came to my game. We played

26:58

at USC So we played

27:00

here and our coaches were like, oh, there's going to be a

27:02

surprise. Um, we didn't

27:04

know what. Like, I hadn't had a relationship

27:06

with him before that. We just like followed each

27:08

other on Instagram. And so

27:11

I'm like all right, and I'm out there shooting

27:14

with like, you know, an hour and a half before

27:16

the game starts, not a lot of people out there. And then they

27:18

walk in and I was like, is

27:21

this the surprise? Because there's nothing else tops

27:23

this, so this has to be the surprise.

27:26

And he can't, Like he watched

27:28

the whole game, came to talk to our

27:30

team after in the locker, room. That's when we like

27:33

exchange numbers, talked, and then ever

27:35

since then it was like workout. You

27:38

know, I helped coach you know, GI's

27:40

team with him. So ever since then, it was like we

27:42

just clicked and became really good

27:44

friends. He put you through workouts,

27:48

details and saying yes. But it was not

27:50

as much shooting as you think. It's almost

27:53

little to no shooting. Well, he worked my

27:55

twins out. Of my twins for their birthday,

27:57

we took a surprise out Orange County. He worked him out

28:00

very little shooting, you

28:02

know. It was it was like fundamental. It was

28:05

literally like you had a ball and it was like alright,

28:07

pivot off your toe for

28:09

like ten minutes, let it get tired, and like back

28:12

like back pivot for pivots, side pivot,

28:14

like all these pivots. I'm like, are we gonna shoot? It

28:16

wasn't about that. It was all a little It was

28:18

the little things, and it was cool because like all

28:21

gis teammates were doing we're doing them and

28:23

we're doing them really well. And I was like, this is

28:26

this is when he practiced that team. Not to cut you off. He

28:28

practiced that team. I think he told me, like because That's how

28:30

we were. Obviously we were close, but and then we'd always

28:32

see each other because I was coaching twins, he's coaching

28:34

ge I'm like, you know, how often do you know do you guys

28:36

practice like six days a week? You know? I

28:38

got these girls run They're trying with their eyes closed. I'm like,

28:40

what the funk coke? Like? You kid me? Like? And

28:42

he was not playing it in no, he was not

28:45

playing. And it was long practices. It was

28:47

like two and a half hours, like, and

28:49

they showed up, happy, excited everything

28:51

day they left it. I love that best advice

28:54

he gave you. Real

28:56

sharpness comes without effort, Real

28:59

sharpness comes with that effort. Yeah.

29:02

Yeah, And he told me that we

29:04

were like walking out of the gym. He had a little

29:08

bag on his back with the balls that he

29:10

carried and was just like and just told me that

29:12

and then like walked away. I was like, leave

29:14

you with that, okay, but Jim,

29:16

Yeah, And then the whole time I was like, Okay, this

29:19

is what he stands for, like put in the

29:21

work, and then when you're out there, it's like, oh

29:23

it looks so easy. It comes so after it's like, yeah,

29:25

because you put the work in the

29:28

scenes. Yeah, where were you at when you heard

29:30

the news We're about to play Oregon

29:32

State. Yeah in the locker

29:34

room. Uh, probably like literally

29:36

thirty minutes to tip off. Yeah,

29:38

in the locker room. Um.

29:41

And it was like do I play? Do I not

29:43

play? Because I like I

29:45

don't even remember that day. And

29:48

I was like, no, I'm I didn't warm up,

29:50

but I was like, I'm gonna play. And

29:53

we met. We had not beaten Oregon State

29:55

at Oregon State, so it was like a huge game

29:57

for US ESPN game. Um.

30:00

And I don't remember the game, but we won, so

30:03

that was good. I think I did decent,

30:05

But I was

30:07

not there somewhere else. Yeah, I was not there

30:10

to you spoke with the memorial

30:13

service, Um,

30:16

what was that like? It

30:18

was like I

30:21

was nervous, I was emotional,

30:23

Like it was it was

30:25

awesome to see how many people were there that

30:28

were touched and had some story

30:31

about him, like all the like half the

30:33

whole NBA was there. To be

30:35

able to see all like friends and family and

30:37

everyone that really came together

30:40

was it was really cool. But I mean

30:42

it was hard and to the fact that I had a game

30:45

special that day as well, there were two very special

30:47

things obviously, Yeah, and so you

30:50

know, going up there, I was like, oh

30:52

my gosh, like the youngest player, your

30:54

person to come up here. I was like nervous,

30:57

emotional, and it was just like I have

30:59

to just do I have to just speak, and it's like, don't

31:01

worry about everyone else that's here. It's like

31:04

you're just talking to them. And that's what my agent told

31:06

me. And I was like, so I like that

31:08

and that. I think that helped a lot and kind of

31:10

calm down a lot of my fears. Michael

31:13

Jordan's speech, I thought it was something that was needed.

31:15

I wasn't expecting it. Um, you know,

31:17

obviously Kobe was our Jordan's, but we saw

31:19

Jordan two and to see that kind of compassion

31:22

and love and the kind of relationship

31:24

you have with code, how did that strike you?

31:27

Yeah? I was interested to see

31:29

how his speech was going to go. And I heard

31:32

that he was going to be up there

31:35

because yet it was that kind of like little

31:37

brother mentorship. And it's hard when

31:40

and you guys know, when you're playing against these players,

31:42

it's like you idolize them. Then it's also

31:44

like I want to kick your ass. So

31:47

it's hard, but it was just this level of like respect

31:49

between the two and for

31:52

him to be able to go up there and he cried and

31:54

you know the meme of that, he said it was going to be

31:57

a meme and just you know, to be able to you know, see

32:00

how how much it hurt him, but how much he meant to

32:02

him was. You know, we

32:04

all feel it now when we watch all these

32:06

players that are doing his moves

32:08

and stuff like, that's really what he was to

32:10

all of us and to your guys kids and

32:12

you know all of that. To see

32:15

to see m J though, that's what

32:17

it's different. That really touched

32:19

me, Bro, you know what I mean, because you know how we all feel

32:21

about him, but to see m J. Everybody

32:24

wondered the relationship, but to see him

32:26

actually show his real feelings and how

32:28

he felt about Cold, I think everybody needed

32:30

to hear that, you know what I mean. Everybody

32:32

in the world needs to like a little brother shit like you

32:34

knowing Kobe, you know what I mean, Like you don't picture

32:36

but only like only Mike could say some ship like that,

32:39

you know what I mean. And so just to have that in true

32:41

Mamba fashion, as you mentioned, you spoke

32:43

at the memorial, then went back and became

32:45

the first not just woman but n

32:47

C double a player to have two thousand points, a thousand

32:49

assists, and a thousand rebounds that night. What

32:52

was that twenty four hour span? Like that's

32:55

crazy? Well, I literally spoke,

32:59

got on plane. Yes,

33:01

okay, that's how treat. That

33:04

was the only way I get back to the game. Donor

33:08

ed Milidus, I'm still friends with him.

33:12

He let u, He let me hop

33:14

on, hop on the plane, get there, speak,

33:17

um literally fly.

33:20

I didn't even like warm up, none

33:22

of that fly fly back um.

33:25

And I think it hit me like later

33:27

on. It didn't hit me like right when I was

33:29

speaking, but like before the game and stuff

33:31

like I threw up the entire like

33:34

three hours leading up to the game and for like the

33:36

week after, like I probably had lost

33:38

like ten pounds. So I think it was like I

33:41

didn't warm up, I didn't stretch. I

33:43

had just put my jersey on and was like, yeah,

33:46

I'm just gonna go play, and so um,

33:49

A lot of people were talking like are you gonna get ten

33:51

rebounds? Are you gonna because I think I needed

33:53

nine, And I was like it's

33:56

gonna happen on this day because it's

33:59

it's supposed to have and to be like it was, you

34:01

know, it was meant to be, and so to be able

34:03

to do that on like to and

34:07

that ended up being my twenty six and

34:09

last and the addition of the two, it was just

34:12

it was like you couldn't write it any better. Yeah, that's

34:14

a beautiful thing. You've developed

34:16

a solid friendship with Vanessa

34:19

and the girls right now. Can you speak to that a little bit?

34:21

I mean, I see, you know, to see smiles

34:23

on their face at all is amazing. But you know we see you in

34:25

pictures every once in a while and you hanging out with the girls

34:27

now, So how's that? Yeah, it's amazing. I

34:29

mean, you know, I was so close to

34:31

Cob and g and I didn't

34:34

want, you know that to get in the way of like me

34:36

not being there for Natalia and for the little

34:38

ones and for Vanessa, and so I

34:40

love the relationship and friendship we have. You know,

34:42

we talk all the time, and um,

34:44

just being able to be there and

34:47

be there for them, They're there for me, um,

34:49

laugh with them, cry whatever it is.

34:52

You know. Um, it's just so important

34:54

and what she's doing for her kids, is

34:57

you know, hats off And I don't think really

34:59

a superwoman's superpowers

35:01

and I don't think she also, you know, gets a

35:03

lot of credit for for that because she

35:06

is one amazing

35:08

human being. Let's shoutout

35:10

Vanessa. Um building

35:12

a brand. You found a way

35:14

to do that. Um, we see

35:16

you when Stay Farm commercials the CP how

35:19

that situation come about? Yeah,

35:21

that was really cool. It was my first one. Actually,

35:24

I think it was like one of my first aired commercials

35:27

too, So, um, I

35:29

was a little nervous, but it

35:31

was cool. It was like my first time having to shoot on a

35:33

commercial and like make a shot. And

35:36

is that more pressure than a big game to you a little

35:38

bit? Yeah, because do

35:41

I have to like make it? And they're like, well no,

35:43

we could like you know, make it go in

35:45

And I was like no, like yeah, I

35:47

can't break this. Um.

35:50

So yeah it was. It was awesome.

35:52

And to still be able to see it like playing

35:55

and people reaching out. Stars are crazy.

35:57

Yeah, they're on every single commercial.

36:00

It wasn't one of those commercials. Shooting with Chris

36:02

another guy, well, y'all crying laughing the

36:04

whole time. Yeah, he's funny.

36:06

He's funny. But we were able to work out after like

36:09

we had like an eight hour shoot day and then he

36:11

was going to the gym and so we had to talk

36:13

before. I was like, I'd love to work out.

36:16

So we ended up working out like two

36:18

hours after that finished at like eleven PM,

36:20

and I was like, this is dope. Yeah. I

36:23

mean, he's one of the great greats of all time.

36:25

You know, he a neighbor of mine and our

36:27

kids are good friends. So he flies to twins out

36:29

to Phoenix to see But Chris is a dope dude.

36:31

I know, you guys have developed a friendship and he's you

36:33

know, supported you at games and stuff with it, like becoming

36:36

friends with CP. Yeah, it's

36:38

awesome. Yeah, I mean being able to

36:41

work out with him and see what he does and

36:43

then you know, jumping in on drills, shooting

36:45

drills, all these things, and then you know, now seeing

36:48

him being one of the best, you know,

36:50

point guards the league's gonna end up seeing is

36:52

is really cool because that's the way that he masters

36:55

his craft, like through his practice, and so I was

36:57

really able to witness that, and yeah,

36:59

it's nice to see him come out support Although I don't know who

37:01

he's rooting for, Phoenix or US when we were in Phoenix,

37:04

but I think he's room for me, so but

37:06

the other team it happens. Yes, So twenty

37:09

four you lead the league in Jersey

37:11

sales. Slam Magazine labeled

37:14

you know pressure the next Queen

37:16

of New York. When you hear stuff like that,

37:18

you know a girl from Wanat Creek, California,

37:20

what kind of stuff starts going through your mind. I

37:24

don't think I'm gonna really process it until

37:26

I'm done playing. I think it's going to be one of those

37:28

things. But it's cool, like

37:30

but I just have so much more that I want

37:32

to do and accomplished, and I

37:35

feel like I haven't even scratched the surface yet.

37:37

So I'm really just focusing on,

37:40

you know, the controllables and and I

37:42

know what kind of sounds cliche, but I'm

37:45

really like that. So we're

37:47

about only what you control is a good thing. But

37:49

the title the next Queen of Band? Why I gotta

37:51

be just sound dope? That sound

37:54

dope dope. You

37:56

can stay modest as you won't.

38:00

Um. You also work with our brother k

38:02

D and Rich over there boardroom. What's

38:05

that experience? Like? I love because when

38:07

we played, it wasn't so much about business

38:09

and basketball, you know, it's just let's hope and then go have

38:11

phone. We're done. Now there's so much attention

38:13

to detail about saving your money

38:15

and building your own individual brand.

38:17

Obviously teaming up with you know, one of the greatest

38:19

we've ever seen, and then rich as a beautiful

38:21

genius mind. What's it been like working with those

38:24

two over there. It's been amazing. But

38:26

you know, you're you're right. It's like when

38:28

you're younger and back when you guys played, it was

38:30

just basketball. It wasn't as much like branding

38:33

and investing and figuring out, you

38:35

know, your brand partners and how they

38:37

have to align with your brand, and so now

38:39

it's it's really evolved, and I kind

38:42

of think I was just thrown into the fire, you know, graduating,

38:46

joining you know, the league number one pick,

38:48

and it's like you're getting all these brands,

38:50

you know, thrown at you, and it's like figuring out, like,

38:52

Okay, what do I want to do, who

38:54

do I want to partner with? And so being

38:56

able to you know, align with boardroom

38:58

and Kevin being in York and just being able

39:00

to stop by the office and pick his brain and figure

39:03

out all right, we should invest here

39:05

and here and this is why. And also

39:07

yeah, they're they're

39:09

really good and Riches honestly one

39:12

of the best that I've been able to like witness.

39:15

Ye talk us about your relationship with Steph

39:17

Curry. You mentioned it earlier, you know, being a one

39:19

of Creek girl and and growing

39:21

up and stuff is out that way, which your relationship

39:24

with him, Like I've watched him since

39:26

I was and

39:28

when he came into the league and so um,

39:31

you know when I was finally able to meet him

39:33

and then was in college and you know, I

39:36

almost signed with Curry Rand because

39:38

of him and our relationship and being

39:41

able to you know, open gym and go

39:43

to his games and have that relationship where

39:45

I can just pick up the phone and call him. You know, when

39:48

he called me right when I got hurt and you

39:50

know, helped me out because he had ankle injuries early

39:52

on in his career too. So um,

39:54

I mean, what he's doing for the game is something

39:57

you know, we might not see him any more times from

39:59

players and so it's it's really cool and I'm

40:01

just proud of him for the player and for the person

40:03

that he is now, he's like the you

40:06

can create a superstar, Like he's the one, you

40:08

know what I mean, Like he's the one, and and to

40:11

be able to handle the pressure and continue

40:13

to live the right way. I mean, obviously Lebron

40:15

did it too, but Steph's kind of like the

40:18

no tattoo the Golden Boy. Yeah, I

40:21

mean he got tattooed. Yeah. They

40:23

just they're hitting smaller

40:25

here and yeah

40:28

they're small and hidden. Man shout out the baby

40:30

face by face. Yeah that's what it

40:32

is. Yeah. Who

40:34

are your top five players right

40:37

now today that you tune into male or female besides

40:39

Matt Yeah, are you guys included?

40:43

Keep us out? Keep us out?

40:45

Uma? Male, male or female? Like

40:47

if there's any o g s you've been to Dina

40:49

Trrossi earlier or NBA guys, who are

40:51

you checking out right now? Oh?

40:54

So they're still they have to be playing. Oh just

40:56

in general general, this is the most controversial

40:58

questions more. I

41:03

mean, m J Kobe Kevin

41:07

shocks up there. Um,

41:10

Diana Trossi is gonna end up being probably

41:12

top five all time, Sue Bird is gonna

41:14

end up being in the in the top

41:16

five all time. So that's

41:19

my that's my answers, Curry.

41:21

I mean, actually about my favorite female

41:24

player of all time. We just had on the show Don

41:26

Staley. What do you know about Don Staley?

41:29

Well, obviously we haven't

41:31

played each other in college, so we

41:34

kind of passed that one. But she

41:36

coached me um a year at USA Basketball,

41:38

and I liked I just like her demeanor.

41:41

She's like quiet similar really

41:44

yeah, she's like quiet, but like very

41:46

to the point elite at what she does.

41:49

Was a great player and an even better coach now

41:51

at what she's doing. And so I want

41:54

to keep like picking her brain because

41:56

she played that point guard position,

41:58

um in the Olympic and um,

42:01

so I'm hopefully going to be able

42:03

to get a better relationship with her. Yeah,

42:14

best live game you've seen. Oh

42:18

that's a good one. That's a good

42:20

one, you think, rich, Yeah,

42:24

that's that's a Do

42:27

we believe playoffs? Did you?

42:31

Oracle? Yeah? And

42:34

I had those court side seats because we're like three per

42:37

quarters. People don't get it.

42:39

Yes, Oh Billy smelled like Tree.

42:43

Honestly, one of those games when I was younger

42:45

had to be like on just bedrins like all

42:48

those guys. I was like, yeah,

42:53

um predictions were at the halfway

42:55

point in the NBA season. Some teams are still

42:57

kind of find their footing. But who do you see

42:59

in the fine else the

43:01

Warriors and

43:04

the Nets.

43:06

Yeah, a dark horse pick outside

43:10

of those two teams, I would say

43:13

it could be Chicago. Like Chicago,

43:15

that's a dark Going

43:18

back to Cobe, I think he really

43:20

shined the light on female

43:22

sports. Um obviously through

43:25

g and Um the

43:27

growth that's kind of taken on since

43:29

he's kind of put his foot in there, and then it's kind

43:31

of along with the same rise of you kind of coming

43:34

into the w n b A. Do you feel, like

43:36

you said in college, your game started two thousand

43:38

people of game, now it's eleven thousand. Do

43:40

you feel just a growing support behind

43:42

your guys game these days? I do. I

43:45

definitely do, And it definitely started

43:47

with him, and I think a lot of the

43:49

NBA is really starting to

43:51

transition. I think it's also

43:53

like these guys are starting to have daughters

43:56

and have sisters, and it's like Stu

43:58

got a whole flock of them. Yeah, you know, andball,

44:03

But I think it's important to see, like, you

44:05

know, having those NBA players come to the

44:07

games with their daughters and

44:10

you know, showing them that it is possible

44:12

to be an elite athlete in play. And he

44:15

did it, you know, just by showing up

44:17

and and you know, representing us

44:19

and vouching for us, wearing the w n b A

44:21

sweatshirts all the time. And now

44:23

it's like you see football players

44:25

wearing them and everyone wants them. So it's

44:28

cool to see how he changed that. And I

44:30

think it's still changing. There's still so much, you

44:32

know, that needs to be done, but I think

44:34

it's cool seeing, you know, people in power

44:36

start seeing the appreciation. I

44:39

think a lot of obviously, I think it brought

44:41

new eyes to it, but I think a lot of us supported

44:43

it, but we just didn't support it publicly. And

44:45

not that we're hiding it, but it just wasn't like yeah,

44:48

because I've always watched v NBA, but I just never

44:50

you know, I think now that like you said, people are speaking on

44:52

it and really showing support is what kind of move the

44:54

needle could? You guys have support, But I think him, obviously

44:57

his presence helps. But then like you said, people

44:59

just and rep in the brand. I mean that's how it grows.

45:02

So I think we got our w n b A s which was last

45:04

year right to do a great job

45:06

of keeping us engaged with the w n B A and the w

45:08

b A players. But Kobe rubbed off on everybody.

45:10

We all got a part of the play and we all love the game, and like

45:13

Don Stanley say, it's basketball regards if

45:15

you man, a man wanted us basketball, so

45:17

we all have the same feeling about the game. Yeah,

45:19

no, it's yeah, that's and

45:21

it's the media plays such a big part in

45:23

that too, you know. It's it's we'll

45:27

do something and then someone in the NBA

45:29

will do something similar, but it's like they get all the

45:31

recognition and we don't. And it's like we

45:33

put up the same numbers or even better.

45:35

And so it was cool to see like he

45:37

didn't do it for the fame

45:39

or he didn't do it to be talked about, but he

45:41

shut a lot of people up about it because he showed

45:44

like, no, this is important and this is where I'm going

45:46

to invest my time in. And I think

45:48

it shut up a lot of haters and kind of

45:50

I was like, oh, yeah, he's right, Like we should

45:52

be paying more attention to this. We understand

45:54

it different though, because we understand what you'll go through.

45:57

Yeah, the preparation, you know what I'm saying, being

45:59

away from your family. These as like

46:01

we understand that party, you know what I mean.

46:03

So it's important to us

46:05

that we look y'all looked at its equal as

46:08

the NBA and the power

46:10

of social media, how you view it, I

46:13

mean, we all know it's powerful. Um,

46:16

I'm really a low key person, so I don't

46:18

love putting up a bunch of stuff on

46:20

social media. I know it's kind of part

46:22

of the new age with like do

46:25

your sons have Yeah, you know, so it's

46:27

like seven Instagram.

46:29

But with that said, you do speak your mind on important

46:31

issues when you need be do. That's one thing I

46:34

love about. Yeah, I do. I'll

46:36

talk to my ship when I have to. But

46:39

yeah, no, it's powerful and I think now

46:41

it's like, you know, when I was younger,

46:43

we didn't we weren't able to really see

46:46

what NBA players are. Like, I wasn't able to see

46:48

what you guys were doing. I was able to see what guys are doing on the court

46:50

when I was at the games, but like I wasn't

46:52

able to be like, Okay, this is what he's

46:54

doing today or whatever. So sometimes it's like I

46:56

try to make sure, like there's a seven

46:59

year old that's watched my Instagram right

47:01

now, and like what do they see? And it's like, all right,

47:03

I'm battling an injury. How am I saying?

47:05

Positive? What am I doing? And you don't really realize

47:07

sometimes that really can change someone's

47:09

life with what they're dealing with. So I really

47:11

try and you know, stay mindful of like I'm

47:14

a low key person, but also like I

47:16

want to do the best I can and reach people in

47:18

places like Europe and Asia like

47:20

places that I might not be able to like actually be

47:22

there. And then you have to play basketball, like

47:24

they look up to you, and anything

47:26

you go through, they just correlated to their life

47:29

with the situation that they're dealing with. It might even be

47:31

basketball. Yeah, you know what I mean by saying, you get through

47:33

this ankle injury, and it encouraged

47:35

me to get through what I was going through at the time, you know what I mean?

47:37

That means a lot to a lot of people. Can this Parker

47:40

talk about her for a second? Is

47:42

she coming back? Have you guys heard? Because I would

47:46

trying to get her on the show. She keeps now

47:48

that you want to ring at the crib? We never do you

47:50

guys, do you want to ring? You

47:52

could go back for another year, or you can finish

47:54

your career on I was pushed out the

47:57

league. What is I

48:01

think it's fifteen? Ye, yeah, I mean she's got what

48:03

two rings? I would probably right off on that high

48:05

horse, especially because business after basketball has already

48:07

started, you know what I mean. And that's

48:09

what you know. What's fun for me was, you know,

48:12

life after basketball had started before I

48:14

was finished playing, So when the transition I

48:16

made, it was smooth, you know what I mean. But obviously

48:18

each person is different. But she's doing

48:20

her I think obviously she's doing a great job

48:24

outside the space, It's it's

48:26

cool, and I think the hard part is like the competitive

48:28

nature and you of like, I'm

48:31

still healthy, I can still play, and I

48:33

think that's going to be interesting. But

48:35

to see what she's doing on the court but also off

48:37

the court and just being able to represent the w

48:39

n b A but also a woman on you know, on ESPN,

48:42

on all these shows. It's cool. And I've gotten

48:44

to know her a little bit, you know, through Vanessa and

48:47

through the league and so I'm

48:49

excited to see what she does, but super proud

48:51

and happy for her winning UM

48:54

back in Chicago and her in her hometown. Vicky

48:56

Hammo was real close to

48:58

becoming at first NBA woman's

49:01

coach, but she's in in Vegas.

49:03

Now give me your thoughts on her big

49:05

Am, Yeah, I was. I was

49:07

ready to see her make that jump in the n

49:09

B A. UM. You know, I know

49:12

it's political, I know I

49:14

know how it works and um,

49:16

but that doesn't mean you know, I think she said

49:18

it best. The door is not closed. I think you

49:20

know that that door will that will be

49:23

open, and she might be the first one to be able to knock

49:25

it down and we'll get that job. I think she's

49:27

respected through the league, you know, coaching the G League

49:29

and being under pop for for so

49:32

long. But I think it's great for the league to

49:34

have our league,

49:36

to have someone you know, who's played

49:39

in it, coached at the highest level and

49:41

then be able to come back and kind of like pay it forward

49:43

for the next generation of of players

49:45

who's wanting to do something similar. Is I'm

49:47

excited to see what she does in big is just not when

49:50

they play right right, all

49:53

right, coming down to the end quick hitters.

49:55

So first thing to come to mind, Shoot,

49:57

you're welcome to the w n B. A

50:00

A moment was I

50:03

think I got my block shot to like my shot

50:05

block to like the third row. Remember

50:08

who it might have been, Liz Cambidge.

50:12

Yeah, And I was like, okay, yeah,

50:15

I gotta get a little floater in now I can't make it

50:17

all the way to the basket. That's funny.

50:20

You Ascar Robinson and Russell

50:22

Westbrook on the team and the

50:24

three on three game, right, who owns

50:26

points, rebounds and assists. You can only choose

50:28

one Peach Mine's

50:31

assists. Okay, so you're gonna lead in assists.

50:33

I would say Russell will be easy.

50:40

Russ I work out with his brother.

50:42

I got the

50:46

point. You said, points of Russ and the rebounds

50:48

would be Oscar. Solid question.

50:52

The funniest thing that's happened to you recently?

50:56

That's a good question. No one ever asked that.

51:00

Yeah, no one ever

51:03

asks a crazy The

51:06

funniest thing that's happened to me recently?

51:11

My brother be saying some funny ships. I

51:15

mean today, like I was doing pushed ups at

51:17

PT and he was over there making

51:19

some comments about how I was looking weak

51:21

and don't make me laugh

51:24

while I'm doing push ups please, So I would

51:26

just say that, are you guys so you got

51:28

still close? As he out here right now? He comes Yeah,

51:30

he comes out. He just graduated. But yeah, we're we're

51:33

always really close, even though you twins.

51:35

He's a big bro. No, he's a little

51:39

I'm older, but he's like six six so big.

51:41

He's big. Yeah, so he that

51:44

was always a

51:46

year older than me. But I'm a big brother. Yeah

51:48

yeah, yeah, I'm big broyeh know, he's

51:50

but he's like you know, when you're like

51:52

twenty three years four years old.

51:54

It's like he's so immature still yeah,

51:58

the time, he can't take the time at

52:00

the moment right now, I'm like, are you're a child

52:02

still? Five

52:05

dinner guests that are alive? Five

52:07

dinner guests? Can they be my

52:10

friends at your table? It's

52:14

my table code?

52:16

Gee for sure? Um

52:21

Obama? Nice,

52:25

um my mom.

52:29

And then I would say,

52:32

Tom Brady, that's twelve

52:35

to have five greatest female athletes up all the time.

52:37

Excuse me, Oh that's hard. Serena Williams.

52:41

Have you seen King Richard? No,

52:43

not yet, but I heard it's really good. Really

52:47

will I would like this really

52:50

fine? I was trying. Yeah, I can do it really

52:52

good. What gives you whole different perspective on

52:54

their father becose growing up? Okay,

52:56

I heard that, so I would say Serena honestly,

52:59

Naomi, A sock is going to be yes, especially

53:02

um yeah, And then I think

53:05

basketball bias. I'm going to go with like

53:07

Diana, Um,

53:11

I feel like I'm missing some other sports, so I'm trying

53:13

to think about track

53:16

track soccer. Um.

53:21

I'm going with those three because

53:24

I don't want to say I don't want to miss out on someone that I

53:26

know is there? Yeah?

53:28

Yeah? What's three artists? Songs?

53:30

Are you having your rotation right now? Are you listening

53:33

to break his

53:37

new album that's

53:40

Jack Jack Star. Yeah, I still listen to but

53:44

I'm on the shuffle of like twenty like

53:48

top hits, so it's like him

53:50

pop smoke, um

53:54

a sap, like just whatever

53:57

whatever is getting me going for my workouts. Three

53:59

shows you currently binge watch? I'm

54:03

literally not watching any show NBA,

54:06

TV, ESPN. Yes,

54:11

I love it. If you could have a guest on our

54:13

show, who would it be? But before

54:15

you answer it, but you have to

54:17

help us get your answer on this show.

54:20

And I got good with answering that question. I used to struggle

54:22

with it at first. I would say

54:25

they're a good ring level m second,

54:29

I think Steve Nash. We

54:32

have Steven we

54:34

had Okay, that

54:36

was remote? Yeah did you was it good?

54:40

And I love Steve Nash because he's one of the only people

54:42

on this earth that still has George Floyd

54:44

as his profile and his profile pick on his Instagram.

54:47

Oh yeah, you're right, he does? You

54:50

know? That was my guy? I

54:52

love that. Okay, So not Steve Nash

54:54

is canceled. Yeah, we had him already. Give us

54:56

somebody else and

55:00

I have to help, so I have to know them. There

55:02

you going all

55:08

right? Let me think? All

55:10

right, Naomi Oskker God, I

55:13

love her too. We'll take her ding ding ding

55:17

first press conference for George Floyd, Her

55:20

and Carday were in the audience and nobody knew

55:22

and they just stood there regular like

55:24

everybody else, no security and that, and it was like

55:27

three thousand people out there and they were just standing

55:29

there like regular people. So shout out to

55:31

her. Yes, we would love to have her on the show. Cardy

55:33

just dropped a new album too, I got an album coming, got

55:36

picked it up. Check them out. Well before you get

55:38

going, we wanted to give you a little you

55:40

got to smoke. We gotta see what mom,

55:44

you know what I mean. We appreciate you coming on the show.

55:46

Best of luck, get healthy. We want to see you all

55:48

the way healthy next year. We feel good when we

55:51

see the grates and all the smoker we've seen

55:53

Draymond and the rest of those guys wear to the game.

55:55

I can't wait to see you in it, you know what I mean,

55:58

So I can repost it. Reposted that. Well,

56:01

that's a wrap, Sabrina

56:03

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56:06

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