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beautiful country

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bye bye natalie bennett israel's

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prime minister move to dissolve parliament

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as benjamin netanyahu eyes a

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comeback really succeed i

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ask on shield zapper author

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of the the

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and fire of racism

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and discrimination where it

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raises

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how behind scenes look the life and

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work of renowned attorney benjamin crump

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he joins me on his fight for justice

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alongside nadia whole weren't the

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director of civil then

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the january six committee continue

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in with your air and awful

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what

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going to program every one i've the i go as we get

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in new york sitting in for cristiane amanpour

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full israel is preparing for the arrival

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of president joe biden next month but suddenly

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a change of plans prime minister naftali

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bennett will no longer be the one to host

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the american leader and said it'll

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likely be a new prime minister the

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current foreign minister yeah you're located

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that's , after one year heading

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a diverse coalition bennett announced

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he's dissolving parliament or the knesset

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following a series of defections from

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his own party party political partner

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low paid is set take over until a

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new government is formed the coalition

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was shaky from the start uniting

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no fewer than eight political parties

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right wing jews and for the first time

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arabs mostly around

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a single cause and that is to ousted

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then prime minister benjamin minister

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the move plunges the country back into political

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chaos and means israelis will go back

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to the polls for the fifth time in under

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time years watching

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this all unfold of course is netanyahu

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who hopes the collapse of the government means

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that he can come back on top on

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shield ever knows that yahoo better than almost

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anyone he wrote book bb and he's

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also book at how are it's

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he joins me now from jerusalem on

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so always great to see you so

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five elections in less than four

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years what happened

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they're grabbing we be either well

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, happened is what's been happening for the past

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four years israeli politics

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israeli public life is in state of paralysis

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because nearly half of the

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country supports that and

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the out with assess loyalty

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and won't accept anyone

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else in his face not even

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another member of his right wing party

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littlest and the other half of country

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probably with his tiny majority

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do not want seen it in the out back on the any

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circumstance they feel that he's someone

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who is corrupted public life israel they

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feel he someone who is dividing

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israeli society for his own political

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gain and survival and

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this as we've seen over the past year has made

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for rather odd bedfellows

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but hasn't really been enough to sustain coalition

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let's talk about this past year this com

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current government what was not given

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a long term prognosis

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or projection going for initially

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again it was for one main purpose

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and that was to keep benjamin netanyahu

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opt out of prime ministership that

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having been said and that they were able

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to accomplish at least something and

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that is a putting together a state

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and passing as state budget what

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does your value shin of this

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past year and the current government

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furthermore i think we have to say

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that a year is is it

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they said they say and and is in britain that i yeah

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a week is is a long time in politics

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so in israeli politics a year is a very

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long time and the fact that the scottish

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and even , into being in

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as you said it's prognosis was not very good to

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begin with the feather they survive

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for an entire yeah is the team

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unto itself they prove that

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they can work together these very diverse

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parties some them was never

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sat together in coalition prove

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that they could sit together and work together and

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run israel and deliver state budgets

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and make some really surprising

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compromises over issues with

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the many of the members his condition would have been anathema

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if if they've been as a year ago

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if they would ever vote on those issues and they

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did it didn't last for more

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than the ebb and daddy need some i think was

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the team and the team proved that people

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have been safer somebody isn't in the out is

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unbeatable he could never be

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ousted from the virus is of his they prove that

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they could do it they couldn't do

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it for too long but nothing

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else return is by no means no

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means conclusion

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that was there one issue that led

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up to the dissolution why now

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the

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for the main issue was in

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the last few weeks of votes over

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was called the west bank regulations law

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which the fire every

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five years the israeli parliament the knesset

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renews the an extension

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of israeli lot the jewish settlements in

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the occupied west bank this is

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law which the majority of israelis

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support because it's not

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it's not actually a major

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change has been going over fifty five years

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it's emphasis israel occupied

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west bank in nineteen sixty seven but

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the some of the more left wing is suzie

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for the arab israeli members of code is

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in this law was law step

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too far in two of them voted against

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it as the others abstained

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others abstained was enough for the government to lose devote

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answer some the more right wing members of the

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cohen is especially members of and it's own

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party the fact that they were in coalition

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when members couldn't vote for that them

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that was there casus belli to

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to veil from the coalition and in

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the end this was a sustainable

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enter yeah you're located who will be the acting

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prime minister most likely endless

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to be a for a while elections are expected

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in october but things are as polarizing

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, paralyzing as they have been and previous

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elections he could hold office for

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for bit of time tell us little

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bit about him hit his history

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he was tv presenter journalists

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and after after he is secular

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bit different from naftali bennett

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is secular jew and jew

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, more i would say of going

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charismatic how would you describe

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well yeah will appear is the quintessential

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product of tel aviv of israel's main

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sector city a series

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is it's main business and culture centers

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and have night live is only airlifted was

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for many is really pillar of

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the israeli media community disraeli entertainment

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television business and

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he's a he's decides decides as ago

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to go into debt go into politics

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formed his own party and many

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many is rising to thing is raise who oh

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quite close to his send centrist

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perhaps leaning less would add

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for our politics views including

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many of my colleagues my colleagues israeli

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media didn't take him seriously a in

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his first is impossibly thought oh

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he's perform a the presenter to

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no real substance that is will

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be up at passing phase he's

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very well into as in the twenty thirteen elections

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will nineteen seats in the knesset which was

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was astonished every was and

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still people would not taking it seriously

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enough but at the end it wasn't

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necessarily bennett who who brought with him yeah

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down when i say was yeah airlifted who

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was the real architect of this

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coalition so much that he

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was even prepared despite being the lead

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of the largest party the coalition he

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was prepared to give first two years in

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their a government as as prime minister

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soon of taliban it in the end it was just one

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yes but the fact that lipide brought

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together these that is very unwieldy

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almost unimaginable says he unprecedented

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go doesn't have a party brought them together

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managed to bring them managed to get

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them all to vote for for the study besiktas

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prime minister margins of managed

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to maintain them for entire and

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above over many israelis he's now the

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man the only man the last twelve years

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to beat nuts and the out that

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in itself is big achievement for him and now

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you going to be the acting prime minister for these four

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months and this is is this is

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his opportunity to get

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israelis used the word prime

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minister yeah or that between for many people yeah

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if it is a very well known israel in

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around about thirty or forty years

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on the scene for the idea of

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yeah airlifted being from is there is still something

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that allowed is very fine fine quite difficult

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to swallow but now they have four months to get used

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the idea and i think that lepage

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at let it has a has plan he knows

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what he's doing and he

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has emerged as the real challenge a to

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to an attorney out

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it's interesting to hear that they're them

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israel i guess is is not an outlier

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here and not taking the neophytes

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our politicians seriously right

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at their own peril for for those who

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don't really support them because that happens

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in both the united states with donald trump he

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was a known quantity except he

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was not and home politician at the time and

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we've seen that in other countries and most recently

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in colombia has well talk about

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his challenge now and this

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coalition's challenge now

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in a keeping their their

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uniting fight to to avoid

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having prime minister former prime minister netanyahu

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return to the scene he didn't take leave

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the same you still and government had

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of the opposition party the likud party

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what what does he see now with the

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opportunity to reemerge

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Send it to me. has one advantage going

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into this election? Is that his blocker

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party. Israel has a proportional

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representation electoral system, which

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is a basic, a multi-party parliament,

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send. It doesn't. He isn't

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going to with if if he doesn't return whatever

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whoever becomes next prime minister will not

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just have the support of his own party who need support

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of other parties as one into now

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advantage is that he has

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and group of parties for

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right wing religious parties hope who were quite

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loyal to him that voters loyal to him and

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he and going into the to the and action

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even those that in polls those

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for parties together to do our bit

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short of a number of majority they're

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going to stick by the

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other hand that feeds on paper may

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have majority but the eight or nine

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different parties that are against

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us and out our as

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this coalition was very diverse have

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many have many they and

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policy contradicts and i'll from

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those parties are not as willing

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to pledge loyalty two left feet

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as their leader in the same way that

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missing the aus block is so that these

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i'm really major challenges to chinese facing

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the hates but he's aware of them i think and is

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working very hard as you mentioned biden

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when the present come next month to israel

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is will be another for the opposite if elected

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to present himself as prime ministerial

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there's nothing like hosting the i don't

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face present in jerusalem to get

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a boost your your your standing

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or he also has a a

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, very serious team of advisor including

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american campaign advisers working

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with him and think that he'll put

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up a fight and within hour i would not eh

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rule appeared out of winning the selection

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what does this mean in the sense

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of the historic nature that we saw over

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the last year for the first time he had

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an arab islamic party in the

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knesset their as them at twenty

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percent of of arab

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israeli voters our are arabs

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and yet they're not going to the polls

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going that number that that fashion

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how significant will it be to

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get more arab israelis

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to the polls is their goal

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their to ultimately keeping us yeah from

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returning there's

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a very good question the turn out amongst

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arab israeli citizens has been

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in last twenty thirty years uniformly

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lower than the general population and said he

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didn't the jewish population and

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it's been very difficult to predict and

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, three four election is fluctuated

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fluctuated and down the turnout and

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the polls are now saying that they're that

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the arab israeli voters are angry that they

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they say that he didn't manages to

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have the influence of they thought they would have in this government

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through united arab list which was

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at a party to the coalition and

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insane time to still four months ago the

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campaign to bring

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them out they could the the they may have

13:38

another chance is being called

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the experiment the factors the first time

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the only time so far there was

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an hour apart the in the coalition on

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the quest is what woo voters feel

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of when the election iowa or hell

13:52

because could be the end of october the early november

13:54

early date as the had been set moves i feel

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this was an experiment that failed

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and therefore some not the repeated as hard

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as you between jews and government always

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is something that israeli voters by

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jewish and have are prepared to

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try again and as we have to

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yell if it is hoping the city on the other hand

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is has already been gunning for this and he's

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calling this the government which relied

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and terrorists supporters the government which was controlled

14:19

by the muslim brotherhood his victory

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basically relies on the

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majority of israel you saying this is it

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of and expand that we didn't do know on to do

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not want to repeat again

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i prefer you'll be following this for

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all of us will have you on i am sure

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over next three months thank you so

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and policing in america today today

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the wake of these killings their families are

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to so many of this nation's recent trauma

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now new netflix documentary goes behind

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both of you nadia let's begin

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with you think trump has become a

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i would think you would agree for all

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the wrong reasons out there i'm

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on television for the nation to

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the police misconduct we've seen

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thinking as film go what

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can i do at this moment help tell the story

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and , was very lucky that

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shortly after that i got a call from

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our producer kenya barris who has

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relationship with ben crump asking me

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if i'd be interested in going

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on the road and following bad throughout the year

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of following the murder of george floyd

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then when you are approach with this idea

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what was your initial reaction

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where will kill you bears who

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created the television show black years

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ah approach may i

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was a little hesitant must be honest

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because i'm used to myself

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been out on the

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front line but this

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would also involve my family

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my wife and my daughter so i

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had to think about very seriously but

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then when i talked to my manager

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camembert you with net

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flicks was all friend was

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me to be able

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to make the case they gave

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me a global bullhorn to

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speak truth to power so

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i understand that is where

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we have to do every

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time we get an opportunity beyond

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to let them know that our children

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well i know that that you are are

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do not be yourself as the

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person as the story as the

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victim here as you're representing families

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of those who were wronged

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at the hands of police for the most part

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and that's how we've gotten to know you

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you i think adds more to

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only their background but yours and

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we find out about yours we find out about

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as you mentioned your wife that you'd met

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his is sort of the pressure of navy you put on

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the legacy of our ancestors

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pray for us and they

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vision they had a vision

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their children their children in their

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children's children even though

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they hadn't met with sought in reality

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for black people as so

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i do care of this burden of san

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that i am trying to make

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our ancestors look down from heaven

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and be proud that we are

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fight and for all of

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our children to have an

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equal opportunity life and

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much about mob upbringing and

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where my mother raised me

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and will we see all of that in

22:25

this film i think a lot of people would be surprised

22:27

at just the number of caseload

22:30

that come your way you and your colleagues

22:32

there and your partner's benny

22:35

get about five hundred calls

22:37

five hundred about taking on cases

22:39

clearly you can't take all of them what

22:42

is it that you look for in deciding

22:44

which cases you will

22:46

actually represent

22:50

certainly be out over toll

22:52

nadia rms

22:55

student of history and my personal hero

22:57

was thurgood marshall i

23:00

remember reading that thurgood

23:02

marshall gal lot calls as

23:04

wales and he would say

23:06

that he and and of a c p legal

23:09

defense of would take cases

23:11

that shot the concepts and

23:14

i use that as my litmus test

23:16

is whales were bama take a case

23:18

and that because he can't i

23:21

say obama bomb you can't acorn

23:23

all of them but would you can do

23:26

there's try to find those cases

23:29

that was shot with a conscience and

23:31

were have the greatest impact

23:33

on larger society like

23:35

tray bomb martin's case like

23:37

of michael brown case in ferguson

23:39

were was hands up don't shoot

23:42

like a brianna taylor a mod

23:44

obvious early george floyd

23:46

you're looking for those cases where

23:49

the even though there are other hundred

23:51

black and brown people would kill

23:54

and just is horrific ways

23:56

you know these cases if

23:58

we can get the equal justice

24:00

for damn it will have an impact

24:03

on all of those names that you

24:05

don't know about and bass my

24:07

mission every day to be an unapologetic

24:10

defender black right

24:13

that liberty black

24:15

humanity

24:17

the alpha learn that you started your career as a rent

24:19

lawyer and that to police misconduct

24:21

cases only represent five to ten percent

24:24

of your clientele but again

24:26

sadly the head is how we

24:28

have come to know you as nation

24:31

by speaking out not you

24:33

really capture well the emotional

24:35

toll not only that this

24:37

has on families of the victims

24:39

which we have seen following their stories but

24:42

stories but ben as well and

24:44

some of that the physical threats

24:46

that com his way to we learn

24:48

that he has a bodyguard with him we

24:51

have a clip from the film i want our

24:53

viewers i've got a desperate

24:55

last week if

24:57

a lot of people who don't

25:00

want see

25:01

that people do well i get claim

25:04

we need to stay at our place

25:08

the staff they get

25:10

their comments on social

25:12

media pj

25:14

the mad town begun that black

25:16

lives matter ah i'm

25:18

will shoot you day it aswell for

25:20

for now the status of

25:22

we turn it over to fps

25:25

and key point the

25:27

on the one hand the temperature so high

25:29

in this country on so many issues

25:31

so much polarization violence

25:33

has gone up threads coming

25:35

from both sides of the aisle saw

25:38

the one hand it shouldn't be surprising but surprising

25:40

but i guess it kind of was least for me as viewer

25:42

to hear that been chrome finds himself in

25:44

that position as well was position for

25:46

you you

25:48

know it

25:50

would not entirely surprising

25:52

to me that there

25:54

are people out there that you know may wish

25:56

harm on attorney crump because

26:00

again really see him in the forefront

26:02

of a lot of these very high profile cases

26:04

was we made an effort

26:06

to show in the film that there

26:09

are many many different sides the cases funny

26:11

something thought i think about black

26:14

and case of the black farmers and

26:17

eat out even though he's

26:19

mostly known for these high profile

26:21

been successful for thesis that it

26:24

out of very polarizing

26:26

ah he don't he does so much more

26:28

than that and it was important for us to show that

26:30

throughout the entire film i really

26:33

am

26:34

impress me van to just say

26:37

your connection with all of these families

26:39

and cases that that you take on

26:41

you you really become invested in them

26:43

in their stories and getting to know them

26:46

and tell them early on listen

26:48

they're going to find everything they can

26:50

to bring down your loved one to

26:52

two to drag him through the mud to say

26:54

that they were a bad person deserved whatever

26:56

came their way and their little things

26:58

that you pick up on when one of victims

27:00

daughter says that her father loved to play chess

27:02

and you said oh you have go to media

27:05

and say that because you don't hear many stories

27:07

of black men playing chess

27:09

you also say if you want justice

27:12

you have to expose your heart i'm

27:14

are you concerned at all what when

27:17

you are putting these families

27:19

and in really encouraging them

27:21

to go out and face a lot of

27:23

that they're harsh realities that that being

27:25

so public the media can kinda

27:28

spouse well

27:30

beyond that the only thing i know

27:32

to do his we

27:34

have to

27:36

put the case in court of public

27:38

opinion because when we look at the

27:40

court of law the

27:43

history the american

27:45

courts have told us that

27:47

black people don't get equal

27:49

treatment we don't get equal

27:51

justice so i understand that

27:53

the court of public opinion in

27:55

many ways we're have an influence

27:58

on the court of law so

28:00

if you don't want you have a family

28:03

member who's been a jesely

28:05

kill to be just swept under

28:07

the rug and forgotten about

28:09

then fortunately

28:12

you have to grieve air fight

28:15

at the same time it is so

28:17

unfair because often

28:19

to as when these ah

28:22

the verge of key or bad the very

28:24

people who are supposed to protect

28:26

and serve their that the

28:28

shark

28:30

the year you can that

28:32

of for to let too much time

28:35

pass because that would simply forget

28:37

about you and so that's why

28:40

we tell them you gotta tell them that

28:42

you love what was person

28:44

that you have what would deserve

28:46

it was worthy of the benefit

28:48

of consideration the benefit

28:51

of the doubt most importantly

28:54

the benefit of humanity

28:56

and that's what syllable really

28:58

as about beyond fact that

29:00

i'm assume lawyer and that the criminal

29:02

lawyer is about the title

29:04

itself silva

29:06

that we have been gauges silver behavior

29:09

now more than ever we

29:11

up champion we're

29:13

putting up and people been tolerant vs

29:15

this white supremacy mentality

29:18

i just i don't want to set of to

29:20

and without talking about george floyd which is how

29:22

the film begins and and how

29:24

it ends and you talk about a that

29:27

that what keeps you up at night some of the nightmares

29:29

that you have said that you're just running

29:31

out of time where are we as

29:33

nation now two years after

29:36

his death well

29:39

we're make an air camilla progress

29:42

and we have to understand that the

29:44

power struggle as the great

29:46

negro abolitionists frederick

29:49

douglass without struggle there

29:51

can be no progress

29:53

so as , as

29:55

reconsider their stands up as

29:58

feet from our

30:00

where we were based or were likely

30:02

to have overcome we've overcome

30:04

slavery we overcome the metal francis

30:07

we have become segregation we'll become

30:09

jim crow and what it tells

30:11

me when we get such lamb

30:13

what victory george florets

30:15

that it sets a precedent where

30:18

it care about children the

30:21

enemy's er be quality were

30:23

not win this war it

30:25

is the people have good morals

30:27

and values who were ultimately

30:30

win this war and our children happen

30:32

know that based on precedent

30:34

that equality justice

30:37

will win

30:38

it's a real eye opening documentary benjamin

30:41

crump and nadia hall grand and you

30:43

also make sure to include that that when

30:45

police do the right thing you

30:47

make light of note of that as well and we

30:49

see with the examples of that in some of cases

30:51

you take on thank you so much

30:53

for joining us we appreciate it they're

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to diversify their ever you get your pocket

32:47

what would january six public hearings

32:49

pass the halfway mark what have we learned

32:51

and how engaged is the american public

32:54

lifelong republican sarah long well as

32:56

the cofounder of defending democracy

32:58

together and executive director

33:00

of the republican accountability project

33:02

she has been hosting weekly focus group since

33:05

the start of the investigations gauging

33:07

political sentiments across the spectrum

33:09

she joins walter isaacson to discuss the

33:11

impact of the hearings are having as well

33:14

as her take away from the stunning texas

33:16

state g o p convention this past

33:18

weekend that you bayona

33:20

and sarah longwell welcome to the show then

33:23

for adamant

33:24

you run focus groups even do a podcast

33:27

on focus groups and your the publisher

33:29

the ball walk want to talk about

33:31

some of those focus groups you

33:33

been a republican but republican

33:35

against trump and you seen in

33:37

your focus groups i've i've read

33:40

that they tend still support trump

33:42

the to

33:44

recently tell me what you're finding

33:46

right now

33:47

really interesting any it's you know i don't

33:49

wouldn't say that trump voters have stopped supporting

33:52

trump's but but something interesting has started

33:54

happening since the january six

33:56

hearings began prior this

33:58

and i i do a full cost of

34:00

this group a week for not always the trump voters that

34:02

they often are and one of the

34:04

things that's been very consistent including

34:06

after january six is that usually

34:08

about half the group of trump voters

34:10

bought from run again and twenty twenty four one

34:13

the reasons i've never quite party argument

34:15

from some my friends that

34:17

are you know trump is losing his grip on the party

34:19

because i hear from voters all the time who

34:22

are excited to see trump won again but

34:24

in the last two groups of trump voters

34:26

that i've done with ah

34:28

the hearing kind of in background

34:31

the zero people feel both groups

34:33

wanted run again and twenty twenty four

34:36

and i'm not saying that that's mean focus

34:38

groups kind of their a step above anecdotal

34:40

on my to have so

34:43

consistently heard from

34:45

you know at least half a good way to see to

34:47

run again the having to in row where

34:49

i'm nobody wants to see trump run again

34:52

would it makes me think years the

34:55

voters could they they don't say that don't

34:57

like trump they think that the january sixth

34:59

earrings are kind of a dog pony show

35:01

arm and so it's not that the information

35:03

is making them not support trump

35:06

i think more likely what's happening

35:08

is its reminding people that trump

35:10

supporting him the lot work

35:12

as lot of drama and auditors

35:15

you know any in there's to sort of a tendency

35:17

for out there was attending these groups just

35:19

don't want move on was in the january experience

35:22

but also move on from from and is

35:24

difference from what i've been here a grievously

35:26

do they were been watching the january six

35:28

hearings fox not been covering

35:30

them fully there are so it was

35:32

interesting in the in the first group there were three people

35:35

who said they started on the fence from them off

35:37

because the tea party then it was witch hunt but

35:39

think was interesting to me is you would

35:41

be the rocks ah

35:43

i think how often the things we're talking

35:46

about in washington ah

35:48

ya that everybody's talking about and then i

35:50

go into a focus group nobody

35:52

nobody even knows what we're talking about i've never heard

35:54

it on and in this case everyone's

35:56

heard about the hearings everyone knows that they're

35:58

going on you know their

36:01

they think it's more like impeach managers

36:03

more trying to get from ah but

36:05

the fact it's fox is

36:07

being forced to kind of put

36:10

up defense for what's being

36:12

for means that it is breaking frills it

36:14

is kind of bleeding into their coverage because

36:17

they're having to have people like very loud or know gone

36:19

ah you know who's trying to sort put up defensive

36:21

himself for leading torture to capital ah

36:24

prior to the january that are insurrection

36:26

and so i think the even

36:28

though i think i think that the republicans thought

36:32

like many other things voters would

36:34

just tuna salad then instead

36:36

because it has been why

36:38

drama film quite well executed

36:41

it is kind of people are very aware

36:43

of it and it's it's raising think this idea

36:45

of just and yet we

36:47

get past this i wanna move on from it and

36:49

and for republicans that means

36:51

moving on from showed

36:54

you move on for slump ah

36:56

do they have any preferences

36:59

, when i notice add rhonda santas

37:01

is truly trying

37:03

to be trump without trump that

37:06

does get that lane would have

37:08

aids and gaza florida

37:10

governor to santas oh yeah did

37:13

you could have that lane ah i'm you

37:15

know it is arms again with

37:17

the idea that some and i'm surprised what

37:19

people now and what they don't know to have

37:21

so many republicans across the

37:23

country know who the governor of

37:25

florida is the is actually

37:28

very is is very interesting lot of

37:30

actually prefer to don't know ah

37:32

you know state level officials around census

37:34

is superstar saw in conservative

37:36

world and think people see him

37:38

as ah a fighter

37:41

like trump is a fighter and

37:43

somebody who has that pugnacious personality

37:45

which they like they like see the

37:47

the appetite now my republican

37:50

voters is very clear that

37:52

they watched as bad as style

37:54

that's a seeing the face this increase

37:56

from their politicians but he

37:58

also said he run and the would have

38:00

eight years this is something people bring up in focus groups

38:02

i was fighting for saying is there like you know really

38:04

like track of love to see

38:07

him you know revenge for get reelected

38:09

when you only have

38:10

for years they've got the or hearings

38:12

focus quite bit on my

38:14

pants the vice president who

38:17

is you know been a long time conservative

38:20

but doesn't have the trump pugnacious

38:22

nissan of course got on the wrong

38:24

side of trump when eve or refused

38:26

to block the certification of the

38:28

election are coming out the hearing

38:30

that people have opinions about

38:32

a former vice president pence

38:36

know it , to say this is the

38:38

number one choice that you hear if trump doesn't

38:40

run again and twenty twenty four my senses

38:42

like the last year it's

38:44

interesting how the weight these

38:46

focus groups republicans across the boards

38:49

are mainly of people who formerly voted

38:51

for trump no no no so in

38:53

was referencing right now these or

38:55

trump supporters say they at least twenty

38:57

twenty trump supporters they voted for him and twenty

38:59

twenty ah and and

39:01

any most cases also and twenty sixteen arm

39:04

but they

39:06

they were it's it's interesting to me

39:08

how know my pants here

39:10

seen either he should have no constituency

39:13

on he either is seen

39:16

as being too much of a colonel

39:18

lapdog the trump somebody who just stood and

39:20

nodded didn't really cut out his on

39:22

profile the war he is

39:24

seen as insufficiently loyalty to trump

39:26

on and so he he doesn't really

39:28

have with core group people

39:31

who are excited about i'm mike pence

39:33

run it's of he is one the names

39:35

that comes up very seldom

39:37

are in focus groups of trump voters

39:40

as somebody they like to see run and twenty twenty four

39:42

and it's part because they just think he's nope

39:45

toes on interesting it goes back this

39:48

idea of iran to kansas is just much

39:50

more and the mold of what people have come to decide

39:53

that excites them that they want see the

39:55

wanda sandoz as in this pugnacious

39:57

mild ah a who else

40:00

the republican party seems like site

40:02

your focus groups either a republican

40:05

focus groups or trump supporting

40:07

republicans focus groups

40:09

there was you know is sometimes i'm so

40:11

we do lot of groups with what i would call swing voters

40:13

farm and and that and and

40:15

swing voters they voted for trump and sixteen for

40:18

the book voted voted for by and twenty twenty

40:20

because they just couldn't take trump you know these

40:22

the people who put five and over

40:24

the over top and pennsylvania and

40:26

michigan wisconsin ah arizona

40:29

georgia and they tend to

40:31

be kind of the old school for additional republicans

40:33

with distancing themselves very

40:35

much republicans and so and those groups

40:37

you here's somebody like un nikki haley ah

40:40

you know or you

40:42

know my pump hey i'll are comes

40:44

up from time to time ah

40:46

and enough an interesting one because you know i

40:48

think that that she's not necessarily somebody

40:50

who you're using voters would be super

40:52

aware of what for people who are plugged in ah

40:55

my compare with somebody that they're looking at

40:58

i can sky that

41:00

comes up

41:01

for ninety nine both

41:03

, in trump voting for trump focus

41:05

groups and any am and

41:07

swing voter focus groups your the

41:09

publisher the bulwark an online

41:11

magazine i read off and and

41:14

our lives cheney is one the heroes

41:16

of that crowd and i would say correct

41:18

me if i'm wrong tell me how you're saying

41:21

of congress woman list donates

41:23

has diabetes here and ah

41:25

yes you certainly her of mine arm mine

41:27

mine arm all of trot

41:29

the sort the trump's here's crying

41:31

for some kind of leadership for somebody

41:33

in there with public and party to say something and

41:36

so not only her sort

41:38

of clear eyed moral prosecution

41:40

of with donald trump did but

41:43

also for willingness to do it

41:45

your she's facing reelection and one other things

41:47

that things saw for republicans over and over again

41:50

was an unwillingness to take on trump is they

41:52

were worried about then an issue

41:54

when his us she's ready to take that

41:56

that's clear ah you know the prosecuting

41:59

is urine you're not helping her back

42:01

in her home state of wyoming and

42:03

i'm and and she may very well ah

42:05

lose that race but she is absolutely

42:07

doing the right thing and not only

42:10

she doing the thing

42:12

that's right she's doing an extremely well

42:14

i think the big difference in the effectiveness

42:17

ah your of the differential of effect

42:19

of this between both of the

42:21

impeachment hearings and then this january sixth

42:23

year and the addition not

42:26

only of liz cheney who was try to leading the

42:28

charge but the what they are

42:30

doing is they are putting

42:32

forward credible conservative

42:35

messengers the people that

42:37

are putting on the stance of people that they are showing

42:39

you in their in their video clips these

42:42

people in trump's world or these

42:44

are people from conservative that incredibly

42:46

well respected you know if uma in

42:48

conservative world may not realize just

42:50

how important michael ledeen guess

42:53

ah the judge who testified in the last

42:55

year and he has a heightened other

42:58

conservative legal community very powerful

43:00

federalist society know he's revered

43:02

there and so for him to

43:04

not just testify but but in his

43:06

written statements say that this

43:09

president is a danger the

43:11

party is danger these are incredible

43:13

and i think could get last

43:16

maybe about how much for a

43:18

conservative who you know

43:20

never like trump one hundred seems that is done what they

43:22

could to accommodate him how much michael

43:24

ledeen saying that causes

43:26

them to rethink their choices ah

43:29

because he is somebody that matters a

43:31

lot of and so that's that i think it's been

43:33

that the real effectiveness of this committee is

43:35

using trump's own people

43:38

the conservative legal community ah

43:40

people like grab raffles burger ah

43:42

all conservatives to prosecute this case

43:44

against from do you think

43:46

there's room and republican party

43:49

in the near future for lane

43:51

elaine that is a list chain me

43:55

judge michael loot eggs ball walk

43:57

magazine lane or you think

43:59

they were probably the body is totally rejected

44:01

that yeah

44:03

i mean it here's the thing that the lane is

44:05

very there are it exists ah

44:08

and you know people like liz cheney

44:10

and adam kinsey earth ah gov

44:12

larry hogan people who been unwilling

44:14

to bend the knee to trump and

44:16

their vincent they are funny

44:18

there's been handful ah the i

44:20

think that said it's a it's a

44:23

for a for small lane could be

44:25

crowded especially for thinking of at of it and

44:27

twenty twenty four term you just said

44:29

there were plenty and then you corrected yourself

44:32

and you said there are some oil and

44:34

out there more republicans

44:36

yeah

44:38

the you

44:40

know trump disrupted something

44:42

very deep ah in the republican

44:44

party he changed in

44:46

his image bad i'm

44:49

the one of things that think is interesting

44:51

about the twenty twenty two races his

44:54

arm think it's just starting come into focus

44:56

for people how grumpy

44:59

the candidates are that are emerging from their primary

45:02

they are running on campaigns that based

45:04

on the stop steal lie ah

45:06

but they running in trump's in a cheetah

45:09

with same i'm sort of aggressive

45:11

posture by telling lies ah

45:13

you know utterances there wasn't an

45:15

ad by eric lightens ah

45:17

i'm from , who's currently

45:20

leading the path of republicans there are

45:22

and it was him with a tactical team

45:24

all heavily armed saying that they

45:26

were going right or hunting or

45:28

and rhino is a term that has used

45:30

i hear all the time the focus groups that means republican

45:33

in name only ah which they

45:35

would apply to we the people like me but

45:37

also to people like mitch mcconnell ah

45:39

or susan collins or basically anyone

45:41

that they don't see sufficiently matter and

45:43

so when you ask the question is

45:45

there room for there room like hostler

45:48

publisher are you more prestigious are really

45:50

is no that's the street for the answer

45:52

would make jokes so but you we beg of the georgia

45:55

results you mention brampton

45:57

burger but also gov kim yeah

46:00

the georgia was just

46:02

is a terrific outcome i'm

46:05

a since you brought raffles burger without

46:07

win outright was incredible i just don't

46:09

want people to overeat those results the thing

46:12

about it

46:14

he was a very

46:16

popular is a very popular

46:18

incumbent governor the idea that that

46:21

that david perdue who challenged him

46:23

running specifically on a stop the steel platform

46:26

at the behest donald trump and with trump's endorsement

46:28

he was he had just lost senate recent

46:30

georgia he is not well like

46:33

a he didn't have platform besides trump's

46:35

endorsement or he never really got

46:37

off the ground and as result trump was embarrassed

46:39

by it as can never really went into the state

46:42

and rallied for purdue and and

46:44

took on kept directly or took on rapids

46:46

burger and and and two things

46:48

happened georgia that i think made a real difference for

46:50

camp one is he passed

46:53

what what they would call election

46:55

integrity below their in the state and it

46:57

was very controversial when he did it you

46:59

know coca-cola major league baseball people came

47:01

out against it which allowed camps

47:03

to look like he was really defending you

47:05

know the integrity of elections

47:08

and then the other thing i heard this in every

47:10

focus group i didn't georgia was

47:12

about how what did your job they thought he

47:14

did on cove it it's very similar to run

47:16

the fantasies appeal which

47:18

is i think that sometimes people underestimate how

47:20

much keeping things open during cove it mattered

47:23

to especially republican but also

47:25

center right independence and

47:27

tempted that and so the circumstances

47:29

in georgia were very specific

47:32

and i think they are not people shouldn't overeat

47:34

and think that can be replicated across

47:37

a bunch of other places if you look at michigan

47:39

who could wisconsin if look pennsylvania and

47:41

if you look at just lots of other races arizona

47:44

has one of the most anti democracy slates

47:46

a that you can imagine and in this environment that

47:48

saying something with cari late as governor

47:51

a blake masters of the senate level mark

47:53

fincham at the secretary state level these are all people

47:56

who are the front runners right now on

47:58

the republican ticket holders them are major

48:00

stop the steel conspiracy

48:02

theory candidates and so you know

48:05

i think that were

48:07

happening georgia was great is any very important

48:09

if important if republicans when they're the the have

48:11

pro democracy republicans by

48:14

they will be the exception rather than the all

48:16

use the they give trump is taking over

48:19

up in various places were

48:21

less talk about texas and the texan

48:23

republican convention said just happened

48:26

in the past week ah

48:28

they weren't for things like secession

48:30

being a possibility that biden

48:32

they referred to as not legitimate president's

48:35

they said homosexual ah

48:37

activities or an abnormal lifestyle

48:41

choice they wanted to abolish

48:43

the voting rights act stupid

48:45

a leader of log cabin republicans

48:47

which supports gay republicans what

48:50

happened in texas and and is that

48:52

a real sentiments of the republican

48:54

party these days yeah

48:57

i mean look i think

48:59

becoming part of texas you appears that is

49:01

that normal lifestyle choice i

49:03

think that the that the interesting

49:06

thing about success but a lot of other

49:08

state party the the

49:10

republican party is radicalizing like

49:12

that is just that is the true thing that's happening

49:14

on and one of the places

49:17

where are the sort ground zero

49:19

for the radicalisation he's nice

49:21

state parties in arizona you have very

49:23

similar dynamic where people who

49:25

kind of run a d republican

49:27

apparatus of the state level

49:29

are really out there ah i'm and

49:32

and they not just not

49:34

just they support crop from

49:36

kind of emboldened them to be

49:38

on the most extreme the

49:41

versions of themselves and kind of put it out there

49:43

rights which i think what's different is

49:45

that the i'm sure they'd always

49:47

believed right it said that being gay

49:49

is never a lifestyle choice but even

49:51

they wanted to go ahead and put it in platform

49:53

cisco routers because that

49:56

probably wouldn't have been popular wouldn't have flown

49:58

five years ago when it's seemed like lot

50:00

of the the gay marriage fight was settled

50:03

in republicans were saying he will need to move on from this

50:05

this is a popular a more of truck

50:07

really bowl the end ah people

50:09

to say a wheelchair if is politically correct

50:11

we're going to say that you know we want

50:13

to succeed where her or him say that

50:15

that are being gay is abnormal and

50:17

that is just that's very typical for the

50:20

state level parties i don't think texas

50:22

is the last place maybe not everybody's gonna want

50:24

to succeed that's a kind a sexless

50:26

specific sentiment ah maybe but

50:29

i do think that has the lot more

50:31

of it'll run dissenters has been leading one

50:33

these culture wars down florida with

50:35

don't say gave else i think you're going to see more

50:38

of that kind of things that are reemerging

50:40

after being dormant for yeah

50:43

a little under a decade but ah

50:45

but but mostly dorm and and and sort

50:47

of put tibet is an issue sarah long

50:50

thank so much for joining us for

50:52

having me and

50:53

now a big day for parents who want their

50:56

little kids vaccinated against cove it

50:58

shots are rolling out today for american

51:00

children over six months old now

51:02

this comes as the virus continues to wreak

51:04

havoc by infecting and reinfected

51:07

and refusing to go away the

51:09

good news though is that hospitalizations

51:11

are down the are now with more

51:13

information on this is doctor eric topel

51:15

cardiologists at scripps research

51:17

doctor grey to have you on

51:19

so covert killing about two hundred and

51:21

fifty americans day and

51:23

that is still two hundred fifty more than we want

51:26

to see but it is

51:28

well below the high numbers that

51:30

we saw just last year and early on into

51:32

the pandemic what why do

51:34

you think we are seeing that number

51:36

continue to draw

51:39

well first grade to be with you be on i

51:41

the deaths i think if our the coming

51:43

down throughout the world because

51:45

there's lots of infection induced immunity

51:47

and of course lots vaccination so

51:49

stats the good news the problem

51:52

however is that the infections

51:54

and the reinspections are mounting

51:57

and as because of these amir khan severity

51:59

so we should take any comfort

52:01

in the lower death toll because

52:04

we have so much of sickness

52:06

and long coveted to reckon

52:08

right because as a sub variances amir

52:10

khan spin off cause more than one in three

52:13

colbert nineteen infections in the us just

52:15

last week what can we expect

52:17

to see as new know what we're entering

52:19

the summer months now but we've got the

52:22

fall and winter just around the corner

52:25

where we also some problems the weeks ahead

52:28

we are seeing as of today the

52:30

cdc updated deeds be

52:32

a for five so variance in

52:34

the us over thirty five percent

52:36

now and these are the worst immune

52:39

escape variants that we seen since the

52:41

pandemic started so that

52:43

means they can i to transmit

52:46

, than any a form

52:48

version of the virus and they're

52:50

going to cause a lotta rain sections no

52:52

less new infections and so

52:54

this and so problem right now in

52:56

the months ahead and you're getting to in fall

52:58

and beyond we may face a whole

53:01

new variant and beyond

53:03

our comments the right now we have deal

53:05

with the suburbs and be a for

53:07

five which is on the rise

53:09

exponentially growing in this country

53:11

as well as in europe and australia and other

53:13

places around the world is causing

53:15

lot of trouble

53:17

the deal here more more about these three

53:19

and sections and they become sort

53:21

of a mainstay now it's

53:24

, normal to hear people that you know that

53:26

that have been vaccinated fully vaccinated and boosted

53:29

and get infected wise and

53:31

that leads the question of the efficacy of

53:33

the current vaccines

53:36

are people now going to be

53:38

seeing some tweaks in

53:40

vaccines tweaks the months to com

53:44

where we sure have needed that for some time

53:46

that is a pan beta current virus

53:48

vaccine and nasal vaccines

53:51

but unfortunately the wheels and

53:53

the resources to do that have just not

53:55

been ah of our parent

53:58

and so what we're gonna see the in the late

54:00

summer fall is an armor kind

54:02

specific vaccine towards this

54:05

be a one the original omics on the

54:07

problem beyond it is we don't know

54:09

whether that vaccine is going to make

54:11

much of difference because were already on

54:13

to be a foreign fi os and

54:15

there's not a lot across immunity between the

54:17

original honor france and one that's

54:19

and got going to dominance

54:22

right now

54:23

how long does immunity last

54:26

from a being vaccinated

54:28

or recently boosted or be

54:30

having been vaccinated boosted but then again

54:33

infected

54:35

well that's another good question because

54:37

over time throughout the to after

54:39

years of pandemic ah the

54:42

immunity has dropped some

54:44

and that's because this virus

54:46

has continued to mutate in

54:49

a bigger is more evasive to our

54:51

immune response sauce initially

54:53

the vaccines were lasted much

54:56

longer to prevent against infection

54:58

and says positions and desks

55:00

now we're looking at few months

55:02

three or four months that's why we need

55:04

much better vaccines and also ways

55:07

to block transmission such as

55:09

the ideal way of naval that seemed

55:11

so the durability vaccines

55:13

is reduced and also

55:15

importantly were seen drop

55:18

in protection from the major outcomes

55:20

remember back up through delta

55:22

and we saw ninety five percent prevention

55:25

of has positions and das at

55:27

best right now that's in the e

55:29

eighty five percent that's significant

55:31

drop down soaks we really do need

55:34

better vaccines and better protection

55:36

that

55:37

is a significant drop down so what your

55:39

reaction when you hear people the

55:41

anecdotally say how i just got over

55:43

or my kid just got over it battle at least by

55:45

us three or four months immunity or right

55:47

and saying that

55:49

i know i did that the problem

55:52

is miss ties in well we did the

55:54

chosen vaccine if

55:57

you hadn't ah mclennan section which almost

55:59

half of them the and did have dot

56:01

was during a be a one sided the

56:03

turns out that are immune response to

56:05

that is very narrow

56:07

and specific and that's why

56:09

is really important for children the did

56:11

vaccinate because the they're just

56:13

not going is protected from the

56:16

and on recline and section and

56:18

, order to be protected against the current

56:20

variants of armor crime no less ones

56:23

that we may be facing in months ahead

56:25

it's really imperative that we did

56:27

our kids and now the

56:29

youngest children to be vaccinated

56:32

oh this is really the problem

56:34

of that the virus just

56:36

getting more or evasive

56:39

to our immune system overtime

56:41

yeah we've been talking about those fortunate enough

56:43

to have access to vaccines up

56:45

until today those five and under

56:47

did not fall into that category fortunately

56:50

they do but you look at these surveys

56:52

doctor and less than quarter parents in this

56:54

age group say that they are willing to have their

56:56

child vaccinated right now

56:58

how alarming is that and what can be done

57:01

to bring that level

57:04

it is really alarming because

57:06

you know we've had vaccines for children

57:08

five to eleven incredibly safe

57:11

a and the uptake has been you know less

57:13

than a a third less than thirty

57:15

percent and we're looking at potentially

57:17

even less a uptake for children

57:20

under fine but what people don't

57:22

understand parents that

57:24

, have been over two and half

57:27

million infections among children

57:29

less than age for for there's been

57:31

lots of has positions particularly during

57:33

amr crime ninety percent of which were

57:35

from now with cove it and

57:37

have forced those of children were

57:39

wound up in the in the intensive care

57:42

unit a half of them were

57:44

perfectly healthy with no underlying

57:46

conditions whatsoever we've had more

57:48

than two hundred deaths among

57:50

children less than five years and

57:53

there's long corporate issues that were gonna

57:55

hear about more later this week among

57:57

even young children so

58:00

really vital even with this bomber

58:02

kind infection earlier this year that children

58:05

in h five get vaccinated

58:07

now the best available as of today

58:10

dr turbo thank you so much and thank

58:12

for joining us for at least some good news to know

58:14

that now another age group is finally

58:16

eligible the last age group of finally eligible

58:19

to get vaccine we appreciate thank you

58:22

it is good news state you been and

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58:38

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