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nancy cartwright welcome to the american

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2:24

ah thanks so glad to be

2:26

here isn't just fantastic

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good

2:29

i'm a fan i am such a fan

2:32

i've been listening to me and some of

2:34

these guess that you had on and in everyone's

2:36

viewpoints about their bodies

2:38

and how they're doing and where

2:40

they came from and how they changed

2:43

his some of them were still you know it's

2:45

it's constant challenge

2:46

the art

2:47

welcome to planet earth

2:49

welcome to the there is

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a human experience right so

2:54

that the that the fascinating thing

2:56

for me is i

2:58

always are you know i went through my life with this

3:00

perspective of like you know certainly

3:03

at the time nobody understands

3:05

what i'm going through n n now

3:08

i'm i could look around and go like many more

3:10

people than when i was a kid

3:12

understand because i think that obesity

3:15

has become more prevalent

3:18

i'm always fascinated

3:21

when i talk to somebody who

3:24

i don't project that on

3:26

to who goes like yeah been dealing

3:28

with that and here's the solution

3:31

i found and i'm like wait a minute what do you mean

3:33

wise at your life i

3:35

i've i've known you for a long time

3:38

and i never would have thought you

3:41

had to put any effort into

3:44

your weight or eat you know physicality

3:46

or anything like that you always seem

3:49

to me to be a vibrant very healthy

3:51

person

3:52

oh okay so glad i come across that way

3:54

mirrors

3:56

don't know

3:59

albums

3:59

oh i think it's i

4:02

don't even know what to say from that i've i've always

4:04

been health conscious

4:07

conscious to say and i've been somewhat

4:09

athletic although kind of may be

4:11

mediocre is my attempt some

4:14

i was a gymnast when i was in high school

4:17

from , three years

4:19

i did that and i was

4:22

i was mediocre really

4:24

in terms of the competitions i did i

4:26

did the trampoline i did tumbling floor

4:29

exercise on

4:31

and vaulting

4:33

the

4:34

though there was some strength here i didn't do the

4:36

uneven parallel bars i didn't do the balance

4:38

beam i was a little too afraid of that

4:41

a and of the coach you

4:43

know for whatever for whatever reason i like

4:45

that wasn't my string theory and i did

4:47

okay i think part of

4:49

it too was just i've i've always been

4:52

even as a child very could do

4:54

back then as and i'm

4:56

very flexible with my body

4:58

and even dashboard back to third

5:01

grade thinking that i was a favorite

5:03

of the gym teacher because i

5:05

could do stuff like that and i was so little

5:08

i think that's part of it there was a big like

5:10

the team size i'm only five foot now

5:12

the back them and i was a peanuts

5:14

and that always

5:16

interested me so here i get on the gymnastics

5:19

team they , me cartwheel

5:21

understandably as a nickname i

5:24

was the kept in my senior year that was

5:26

kind of fun but after i graduated

5:28

from high school idol high don't think i

5:31

did anything really particularly

5:33

athletic well at though

5:35

, not true i did and

5:37

i consider this a workout dance

5:40

yeah sure

5:41

just of was the thing and

5:43

you know do in the whole oh

5:46

la di di and disco fever

5:48

the bee gees and all that i had a dance partner

5:50

had a huge crush on him that never amounted

5:52

to anything much other than we were pretty we

5:55

were pretty good with that and we would win some

5:57

competitions at the local pub you know

5:59

this

6:00

that was fun that was fun but

6:05

after high school i now and i'm realizing

6:07

this right now i stop

6:09

do i was stopped being as athletic

6:12

as i was in high school and i started

6:14

to put on

6:14

the little weight

6:16

and i got kind of joke aside

6:19

i also made the biggest mistake this

6:21

was taking some of your

6:23

or your older listeners back to a

6:25

time when dorothy hamill you

6:27

might remember name from she was a skater

6:30

an ice skater and beautiful

6:32

and she she became famous not only

6:34

cause she was a good dance a skater but

6:36

she had the wedge haircut

6:40

race remember , she did

6:42

that one move she's like

6:44

she's got one of the species touching

6:46

her hair that although it like a bath bid

6:48

on one foot in

6:50

her here slammed up in

6:52

from the top it was just like

6:55

wow soon became all about

6:57

this year could so , sick

7:00

and i want to get my haircut like

7:02

a wedge so this was like so

7:04

insane go to i didn't know where to

7:06

go i was it was wasn't going

7:08

to get my hair cut it was long a long

7:10

beautiful hair hair i went

7:12

to why did i do this of

7:14

barber i barber look

7:18

towards it's it's it's it's of a studio

7:21

dorothy hamill was like no like did

7:23

you see the one the skaters i had to convince

7:26

him the wrong wrong

7:28

big mistake in the here looked

7:30

horrible and so i go into my freshman

7:32

year in college and i'm

7:34

sat in i'm over in i've got a horrible

7:37

haircut and i said admiral

7:39

i felt so ugly okay

7:43

though because i killed it is in college

7:46

i killed it with my voice and speech

7:48

didn't care what i look like it's a how funny

7:51

or you or how dramatic or would

7:53

put helpful how good of an actress are you

7:55

and i continued to do really well and

7:57

the hair on the body didn't matter so

8:00

why do the heated from there

8:02

but i did i was kind of show junkie

8:04

and i mean i to

8:06

go on and on with the i could to could tell

8:08

you times more

8:09

when did you when did you when

8:12

did you just when did you decide like okay

8:14

i'm gonna get rid of this trunk

8:17

yeah

8:19

c

8:21

trying to think the first i didn't numerous

8:23

kinds of diets over the years like

8:25

many people do i remember

8:27

doing like the the i'd

8:30

already moved to california by then and i

8:32

was working i was working in the entertainment

8:34

industry and i'm trying

8:36

to think to think i was actually not only doing

8:39

i wasn't doing the simpsons yet this is

8:41

in the early eighties this was

8:43

like i was doing my little pony glove

8:45

friends nord pounds apiece

8:47

richie rich it sits on that

8:49

i also i'd

8:52

gone to use the away the

8:54

i dropped out of school for one quarter

8:56

to do a play and it was quite

8:59

controversial for the times today

9:01

it would be awesome if they ever brought this playback

9:04

you always have play

9:05

called the transgressor any

9:08

was bitten by a grad student at u c

9:10

away and , was

9:12

playing is not unusual i mean going to

9:14

university you play any age you play

9:16

a seven year old read the play seventy year old it

9:18

doesn't matter so we had twenty

9:21

year olds playing like they were sixty five and

9:23

here i'm cast as a twelve year old pre

9:25

pubescent girl and play

9:27

was about a family set in the mid

9:29

west west of who has three

9:32

kids and the oldest son had gone off

9:34

at had had had left home the

9:37

middle son was coming back in sick christmas

9:39

time the middle son is coming back to introduce

9:42

his fiance to the family so that's

9:44

the family deal and then me i'm

9:46

a girl you know it

9:48

hasn't had my period yeah basically and that's

9:50

kind of significant in the place so

9:53

upset at christmas time and the end

9:55

of the first act there's

9:57

a knock on the door and everybody

9:59

suspect the oldest brother coming back

10:01

the door is open and a what is standing

10:03

there and she says hi

10:06

the early

10:07

into our kevin has gone

10:09

ah oh and become alice

10:11

yeah that that is exchange operations

10:14

and the rest of the play gives

10:17

me shivers thinking about it but it's like the rest

10:19

of the play was about

10:21

how not only the family

10:24

on addresses this sensitive

10:26

subject topic situation

10:28

person but also

10:31

how the neighbors and friends to

10:33

zero the people cast

10:35

in it so we had done it you see

10:37

away and the director decided who was

10:39

an empathy grads he decided he

10:41

wanted to i'm

10:44

trying to figure only three of us out

10:46

of the original cast that would that he

10:48

asked us would you recreate your part

10:50

because i want to take it out and do it in a play

10:52

in a theater in hollywood similar to to

10:54

drop out of school for a quarter so

10:57

, i didn't tell anybody this university

11:00

still thought i was going to school i don't know how

11:02

i was this but somehow

11:04

i thought this sounds cool

11:06

i totally want to do this so

11:08

that's what i did and i said

11:11

we got a lot of attention the

11:13

credit you know lots of reviewers came

11:15

in and one night and agent

11:17

came air and they

11:19

met with they came backstage afterwards and said

11:21

we gotta represent you and like of

11:24

at the , okay okay we

11:26

want to do immediately you come to a meeting with as i said

11:28

yeah so i set up the meeting a now

11:30

listen i had no intention of being on camera

11:33

i had no intention of being an actress

11:35

i had done it in high school which was fine

11:38

gray ever they like you're going to be an actress right

11:40

on her voice things

11:42

voice want to do that and i had this during

11:45

a little and it is a little indication

11:47

of of how much i changed over the years

11:49

it's like a had this viewpoints that

11:51

it wasn't pre enough

11:54

what

11:55

where'd that come from you know

11:58

i don't like why would i the

12:00

viewpoint about myself the i did

12:02

and i sell i i wouldn't couldn't make a living

12:05

because i wasn't pretty enough which is

12:08

oh my gosh that is so far

12:10

the opposite a tear

12:12

director has a career

12:15

of working i had birds

12:17

and it as someone that is based more on

12:19

looks i think far more challenging

12:21

van and and to be honest

12:24

with you are a a

12:26

shorter lifespan the ten

12:28

can be but more opportunities

12:31

now and if it's cultivated right

12:33

and using social media and

12:35

just continuing to be in

12:38

your fans you know eyes and

12:40

stuff and corresponding i think

12:42

it's better i think it's better

12:45

it can be a trap that it but it is better

12:47

with here i am

12:48

no yes no i i'm saying

12:51

is that is the careers based

12:53

on good works yeah

12:56

very that seems to be like a

12:58

short like the looks that

13:00

looks go gonna go and then if you don't have

13:03

like real good acting chops to fall back

13:05

on the yeah it's real years

13:07

i agree with you you that you gotta back

13:09

it up with some talent

13:11

the area

13:12

no so ,

13:14

what's the point so that's out that was

13:16

the play and it ended up getting the an agent

13:18

and next thing you know i went in

13:20

for just stood a general meeting and i

13:22

got the lead in up in a pilot

13:25

a t series that didn't go anywhere

13:27

i look at it now i go no wonder he didn't know what it

13:29

what was he was not good at

13:32

twilight zone the movie out of that

13:34

and started in and started lots

13:36

of flesh and blood a got to work with rutger

13:38

hauer and paul verhoeven and

13:40

go to spain jennifer jason leigh

13:43

put played opposite me i was

13:45

in

13:45

inexperience i'm work and in spain

13:48

and

13:50

that was harsh yeah with really

13:52

there's

13:55

yeah did you find

13:56

it on ice i don't know

13:58

often if it's

13:59

los angeles or

14:02

specifically the entertainment industry

14:05

that even if there isn't i'm external

14:08

pressure because i always experienced tons

14:10

of internal pressure but i am like

14:13

like other people going like you

14:15

need to change

14:17

there was always a new diet

14:20

there was always song and new

14:22

things that people would be like have

14:24

you heard of this you know even if it's

14:26

like just i kind of over can't

14:29

wait

14:31

we're so through like the pineapple diet the

14:33

beverly hills diet thus i

14:35

, ah what was the name of it

14:37

the i'm sure i forget

14:40

the name of it's a of was one where you

14:42

get stuff in a box and you add

14:44

fresh fruit to fruit it's to it's it's

14:46

the subscription kind of a thing

14:48

yeah they send you the box and you

14:50

can nutrition yeah

14:52

the i knew your present i did i had i had success

14:55

successful , diet but the

14:57

question is are they sustainable

15:00

right and money you know you can eat from a box

15:02

and take this package do this

15:04

got chemicals in it's not great step

15:07

yes you do add fresh food to it

15:09

but how do you learn

15:11

how you learn you t to that

15:14

and then make it a lifestyle

15:16

and i think that's the chow hcg

15:19

i did the hcg diet

15:20

a man like super low calorie

15:22

right five hundred calories a day or some

15:25

of course you're gonna

15:26

the way you're starving your body

15:28

to death in the bodies like i the

15:30

i definitely have my viewpoints about

15:33

all these diet they

15:35

do was only within the last

15:38

well couple years it's really that

15:41

i took this time of the

15:43

schools in shut down and

15:47

the does actually was it was probably well

15:49

it was probably here a year after that

15:51

it's only been a he a little bit more than a year maybe

15:53

a year and a quarter ago i'm

15:56

i'm the decision

15:58

no decisions that

15:59

wanted to take full responsibility

16:02

for my body and my

16:04

career going along great

16:06

everything's movie long doing more production

16:09

and i've ever done before i just unbelievable

16:11

at my age that i am

16:14

creating really really fun content

16:16

with a production company now show

16:19

and but my body i still

16:21

after after haven't two kids right

16:25

i'm not i don't feel

16:26

there was sitting

16:28

i don't feel comfortable driving in my

16:30

car it's like this it's like

16:32

i'm five foot and happened is it

16:34

there's gotta be a smaller person living

16:37

inside

16:37

is this

16:40

this spring here you know

16:43

though

16:43

for me what i did was i

16:46

just thought it's gotta be here's

16:48

the deal you to find your own things

16:51

i can give you my successful actions

16:54

line of work for you in a seat you know

16:56

but for me and , came up

16:58

with an arbitrary number but i just put myself

17:00

on a low cal diet diet

17:02

at fifteen hundred calories that

17:05

come from that's enough calories

17:07

first for somebody to lose weight this

17:09

to lose i was eating more than

17:11

fifteen hundred for a book for

17:13

us height in size of

17:15

yeah

17:16

fifteen hundred and i didn't ask any

17:19

questions i didn't google it i just said

17:21

you know fifteen

17:24

hundred sounds right a don't ask

17:26

me where i got it was just kind of like

17:28

my own on

17:29

the end in sight

17:31

what my cellphone a program and that was

17:33

it and i i really was religious

17:35

with that i stuck to it

17:36

everything had to be weighed

17:38

everything had to be counted for

17:40

i think i've only gone over white

17:43

maybe one time and it was only like

17:45

fifty fifty calories over but

17:47

i still to this day i still do

17:49

it cause acute psych checks and balances

17:52

in

17:52

me do you find that you still

17:54

have to weigh in measure as much or are you

17:56

able to like i bought four ounces

17:58

of chicken home

17:59

i can i ball at it's about the

18:02

size of my paul

18:02

home you indoors

18:04

them included it's about like that in

18:06

ice yeah , do

18:08

it in here's the other thing i do

18:10

is it as a successful action in i'm telling

18:12

you it works to i started and i

18:15

am i way mice i only weigh myself

18:17

once a week week i want

18:19

to monitor i won it i gotta keep

18:21

again balance and checks on this so

18:24

i weigh myself every tuesday morning

18:26

between like six and eight and

18:29

and it's all good little tiny bit graphic

18:31

yards after i had about movements it's

18:33

like i really and i make it was

18:35

to am i but it's like that's how i do it and

18:37

do like standing there on

18:39

a scale and it doesn't really matter

18:42

what skill you use as

18:44

long as you use the same scale

18:46

routine go away on and on

18:48

of week to week vacation and use

18:50

their scale does it's not calibrated

18:52

the it's as yours so i use my

18:54

scale same one all the time so

18:57

speaking of which one which do go on a vacation

18:59

or even take off to go toby

19:02

respect friends for a weekend or

19:05

am i don't i don't

19:07

have as much attention on what i'm eating i'm

19:09

not i will have french

19:11

fries i will have a little or

19:14

i'll have dessert i won't have

19:16

a whole piece that all you know

19:18

is kind of keep it

19:21

what's the word just put put a little more control

19:23

line and i'm

19:24

yeah moderation

19:26

in moderation to always i

19:28

don't want to not enjoy myself

19:30

and ice then on tuesday

19:33

away myself and as expected

19:35

i'll be up

19:36

right

19:37

april i

19:39

have noticed it because i went

19:41

back to his couple days ago and i was looking

19:43

at it and i looked at my weight

19:46

and i stabilize that where i am right

19:48

now back in april which

19:50

was

19:51

that was probably

19:53

me too

19:55

that was probably about ten months of

19:57

doing this calorie counting it's of

19:59

we're and

20:02

seventeen pounds in that time

20:05

and , body regulated unlike

20:07

one twenty five one twenty

20:09

seven right now and i made

20:11

and i if i ever get a bit

20:14

probably one hundred thirty eight

20:16

like whoa what are you doing

20:18

and right you are you or your

20:20

you are you know you're off the

20:23

charts

20:23

right now that's not okay but

20:25

it's never got near i will gain will

20:27

gain pounds and i'll go right

20:29

back to drinking the amount of water that i dream

20:32

a dream about sixty

20:34

four ounces of water

20:36

they were pretty really

20:38

it's about that to a drink

20:40

a lot of fluids and the

20:44

majority earning and then when you add exercise

20:46

on top of that it's like it's if

20:48

i go up i just go okay fast

20:51

as a program in the next time i weigh myself

20:53

it's gone down in it just goes up

20:55

a little bit goes down a little bit goes up a little

20:57

bit is kind of like a you

21:00

know normal it's kind

21:02

of an upset a normal

21:04

you can like an is an equilibrium

21:07

yeah that's right and it's you're never

21:10

gonna stay the same way that's

21:12

ridiculous to say nothing nothing

21:14

stays the same it's either gotten better

21:16

get worse but you dot and

21:18

oh how to tweak it

21:20

just right so that

21:22

really happy and i'm happy

21:25

yeah did you fuck did you when

21:27

you got to the way you wanted when

21:29

you got to the point where you like okay this is

21:32

cool now i know what to do is

21:34

this if this if this number goes up

21:36

or if i'm feeling like yucky

21:38

or whatever the and increase your

21:40

food at all or did you will

21:42

have no

21:43

no i keep doing what fifteen hundred and

21:45

i've noticed that it

21:49

read that kind of thought that i wanted to get

21:51

down to like one twenty i

21:53

thought let's do one twenty but what happened

21:56

in april is that is wasn't

21:58

really losing any more weight it

22:00

kind of stuck around one twenty five

22:02

one twenty seven and i continued

22:04

to just do the normal thing of the cats

22:06

fifteen hundred with all the

22:09

exercise and all that and it's just

22:11

it's like my body said this

22:14

is it right rear side

22:16

the for your house and

22:18

bone structure the and

22:20

also muscle i am i

22:23

strong i've got some great

22:25

i don't have the same muscle content that i

22:27

had when i was on the gymnastics team gymnastics

22:29

we'd won nineteen and nineteen was

22:31

heavy i would have he

22:33

had one hundred ninety that i was

22:35

every eighteen years old

22:37

and other girls were like

22:39

hundred pounds my friend was

22:41

hundred five pounds i'm like oh

22:43

man i'm fat and even

22:46

i was not i was not

22:48

sad i had muscle mass

22:51

and i did not understand that

22:53

so , with more education in

22:56

the the we had there's such

22:58

an abundance of of information

23:01

on on the internet that you can file

23:03

at i mean obviously you you've got to kind

23:05

of weed through an

23:07

arms the weed through and find out

23:10

what makes sense you know

23:12

hussein yeah it would you know it today

23:15

in opinion leader in this area like what's the deal

23:17

you know

23:17

yeah no sync with a lot of that

23:19

i

23:21

i go into any of these things and

23:23

and i go wait any time

23:25

somebody is pushing a diet

23:27

in they're making statements that

23:29

all people i

23:32

need to do something in a certain

23:34

way i i'm often like

23:36

okay i gotta get rid of that right i've

23:38

gotta cut through that noise that's that's

23:41

yeah there's some bullshit their right because

23:43

different bodies are going to react differently to

23:45

different things and some bodies burn

23:48

glucose well a

23:50

lower a lower intensity

23:53

rate than others right so you could have a guy

23:55

burning fat

23:57

at a really high rate

23:59

before

23:59

body takes in in requires glucose like

24:02

these are just

24:03

you know there isn't like a one size fits

24:05

all thing but but you know and

24:07

most of the

24:09

big fad diets are

24:12

making these kind of an

24:14

empirical claims about

24:17

everybody

24:19

the you know being allergic to cucumber

24:21

skin and you know i

24:23

get that there's some toxins some toxins

24:26

skin like if you're

24:28

not having like severe auto immune

24:30

reactions to it sounds this

24:32

is probably not going to

24:34

the handle your life by just removing

24:37

it from your diet

24:38

there are a brilliant brilliant com and i

24:40

couldn't agree more it's like we're

24:42

all we're all individuals our bodies

24:44

are also different even even within

24:46

your own family you know

24:49

i ever a sister who was tall

24:52

taller that slender you

24:54

know and is it matters she was probably

24:56

in probably tight blood you know me

24:59

short little bit stuck here gymnast

25:02

kind of gymnast body and

25:04

i'm i'm or negative that has anything

25:07

that was another diet diseases that blood type

25:09

diet

25:09

you know look i mean they're

25:11

apparently the yeah id i've done

25:14

all of them died the blood type i did beverly

25:16

hills i did south beach you

25:18

know there was a programmer they were all named

25:20

after some place i did the wichita

25:22

falls diet like all these things and

25:25

and i just go like okay i

25:28

i bought into blood type because my

25:30

whole life with my whole physical

25:32

situation was going to be handled if i just

25:34

ate these foods which is what i can overeat

25:37

all of that stuff too over

25:39

eat meat and sweet potatoes

25:41

like it's nobody's business yeah

25:44

three potatoes or don't get me

25:46

started i learned how to i went away

25:48

for for a while and it

25:51

while i was gone living in this condo

25:54

is like i was introduced to the

25:56

the your fryer

25:58

i love it man

25:59

raw meat you're hot here fire deter

26:02

it's like i became an expert at cooking

26:04

things like asparagus

26:06

and and sweet potato fries

26:08

you have anything to do an ad

26:10

you can make a perfect soft boiled egg

26:13

eleven minutes three are fifty degrees

26:15

you know with a hottie or fire but you gotta have an

26:17

ice thing sit right next to it so

26:19

it stops the cooking

26:20

yeah

26:21

learn all these years since i've

26:23

the early days of the people like oh my gosh

26:25

i want you to make me

26:27

our biggest

26:28

yeah i did you think that a

26:31

big part of it or or was it helpful

26:33

to you i don't know how much ah

26:36

eating out you did prior to this but

26:38

this imagine trying to stick

26:40

to fifteen hundred hours a day like wait

26:42

for real

26:44

not super easy if you're eating out

26:47

know when it's not super easy for eat at

26:49

home rates a lot of work and i

26:51

think that's the same for any diet i

26:53

think it takes a lot of attention

26:56

you have to plan out in the more

26:58

you can do that and make the

27:01

take the time and if it and if you're married it's

27:03

thing that you can do as a couple increased

27:06

his game together and go grocery shopping

27:08

and youth if you can make it

27:10

fine then you'll you'll

27:12

able to stick to have that if it becomes a drudgery

27:15

and it becomes worth i can

27:17

see how would be very easy to like make

27:19

one big mistake over

27:21

a weekend or at a at a

27:23

wedding or of bachelor party or

27:25

whatever it is i'm in

27:28

all the sun

27:29

you know

27:30

year younger off the wagon and

27:32

and it's it's gotta be doable

27:35

so that sustainability thing is that

27:37

is the key brits

27:39

anything worth worth getting

27:41

i think it takes work to get

27:43

it there's nothing easy

27:46

right did you find

27:48

that when you started

27:50

to really look at the

27:52

the kind of energy density to the food

27:54

that you were consuming and then

27:57

eating it that you started

27:59

to make sure

27:59

who's

28:00

and found yourself going like wow

28:03

you know a cup of rice has two hundred

28:05

calories and here's how i feel after

28:07

i eat it but the sweet potato fries

28:09

has you know you can actually eat

28:11

more sweet potato fries then you can

28:14

rise by volume or or wait

28:16

yeah right and

28:18

so did you find those choices

28:21

it wound up informing how you

28:23

stuck to

28:25

yeah a little bit sure is

28:27

if they offer sweet potato fries i will

28:29

do that to do regular

28:31

idaho potato fries is like

28:33

i'm going i want

28:35

to be smart i still am smart

28:38

about it the i'm not though

28:40

it it all out the window and just like

28:42

exploding but i do

28:44

allow myself to have i

28:47

don't really eat a some stuff that i used

28:49

to eat i don't eat any more ice

28:52

cream say don't like the way i blow

28:54

like instantly a look

28:56

i'm whoop so lactose intolerant

28:58

and it is uncomfortable

29:01

even it's like it's don't like feeling

29:03

that way speech

29:05

me three hours of my life to

29:07

recognize i don't have

29:09

to do that

29:10

no yeah it's so weird

29:13

because i from sound like a diet ice

29:15

cream that's got four hundred calories

29:17

per pint vs like a normal pint

29:19

of ice cream as sixteen hundred on average

29:22

and even that and

29:24

i eat it i feel kind of

29:26

crappy and so i have a freezer

29:29

chock full of the stuff because i eat it very

29:31

really because i go like do

29:33

i want to give in to this i'm need

29:35

for pleasure and and

29:38

and take whatever crappy feeling

29:40

comes with it is ends occasionally

29:43

i go yeah i want that and

29:45

i don't mind that crappy ceiling but it is

29:47

a it is so seldom now

29:50

yeah there was a book that i read

29:54

this must have been easily collies

29:56

thirty years ago maybe yeah

30:00

thirty year i i think oh

30:03

it was called it's called the sugar blues

30:05

in it really it was it a little paperback

30:07

book that i got and i read that thing

30:09

i could not put that down cover to

30:11

cover in one sitting and

30:14

, was so interested it was the history

30:16

of sugar and how it's like

30:18

what it does to your body physically

30:21

like wow and that actually really

30:24

helped

30:24

me he added it just gave

30:26

me the

30:29

the truth on what happens when

30:31

your body takes in something

30:34

when i can pop worth i always

30:37

that are popcorn a vegetable

30:39

because it is the

30:41

hardest strain it is a vegetable

30:43

are you copy morning french fries

30:45

it's a salad

30:48

no own popcorn

30:50

is a weakness of mine i found

30:52

this one popular brand called evil lesser

30:54

evil it's it's got himalayan

30:56

salt i don't know who ever discovered

30:58

him a pink himalayan salt i don't

31:01

really care but it it does stay salty

31:03

i'm not into a sweet popcorn at

31:05

all but this him it's ninety

31:07

calories for a bag i'm going down

31:10

, is my go to treat i look back

31:12

and and another thing called smart ones i

31:15

know unlike promoting these products but it's them

31:17

and ninety calories for

31:19

calories bag in their crime she's

31:21

like in it gives you that satisfaction

31:24

of being able to bite into something and

31:27

what what are the snack ones

31:29

numbers are made out of of of

31:32

mushroom yucca in and

31:34

wow

31:35

you can i some bags it's a pretty good

31:37

size and it's quite satisfying

31:41

the white guy i don't do it every single day

31:43

because i found a number of these kind

31:45

of like go to snacks

31:47

in some people do add this belief and idol

31:50

you know i don't do some for this they can have

31:52

that belief for me it doesn't hurt

31:54

where i still added up on my calories

31:56

for the day

31:57

they were doing what's the belief that they

31:59

have

31:59

damn to believe that if you do stacks is

32:02

like you should never

32:03

that oh yes do you

32:05

know just do a little

32:06

for meals throughout the day know

32:08

snacks

32:09

i disagree again i think

32:11

it's and if you gotta go individual

32:13

yeah you do you gotta

32:15

in work for you why would you not snack

32:18

because some random person said you

32:20

shouldn't snack that stupid

32:22

i didn't want to tell her zappa

32:24

yeah i said no i get i get

32:26

it's the for me a word since a lot

32:28

hurt you want to do it began

32:31

very satisfying on

32:33

the other thing that thing didn't dish and to the

32:36

food and ah i i'm

32:38

pretty sure this

32:39

this would be the same for

32:41

everyone and , have to smack

32:44

me down if you if you disagree with me you

32:46

gotta have some kind of exercise

32:48

people a diet alone ain't

32:51

gonna do it your muscles they'll

32:53

become flash heard you know

32:55

you wanna eat the you want to strengthen

32:58

your muscles i think muscle although

33:00

weighs more than fat it

33:02

also burns calories more

33:04

than than i

33:07

think when you're when you're working out

33:09

why yeah just having muscle

33:12

i think sat in and of itself

33:14

the the way that fat increases

33:16

your energy meat is just because your

33:18

muscles are working by carrying

33:21

that the the faa self requires

33:23

no fuel but muscle requires

33:26

us even if he you know i i

33:28

i agree i think that

33:30

i'm it might be the

33:32

the the

33:35

computation different people used

33:37

to come to this conclusion maybe very

33:39

different right one guy might go

33:41

like i want muscle because

33:44

it's it's bear a net healthier

33:47

body in the long run or one guy night

33:49

goes night want more muscle because i'll get

33:51

to eat more food guess my body

33:53

will require more food so it's

33:56

hard value you know and then there is

33:58

certainly is certainly where you go

34:01

maybe that's with too much more soccer's there

34:03

are some very much overly muscle

34:05

bad where it's like i could totally

34:07

see somebody going like i don't need that much

34:10

muscle ryanair

34:11

the personally so it's very subjective

34:13

but building is want to present

34:15

release the don't have an

34:21

awesome

34:21

nah nah nah nah not a beer

34:23

i'm a you can see on doing it

34:25

even on you're not flexing there's and

34:28

real definition and that by suffered is

34:30

awesome i didn't

34:32

oh belle right before i got

34:34

up no i'm kidding

34:35

that's awesome yeah

34:38

the i think it's on men and women just

34:40

having that muscle tone us

34:43

it reaches you you look weird

34:45

better in close and if you don't have

34:48

any good if you're not

34:49

if you're at strengthened that

34:51

yeah i agree

34:53

and and it is scientifically

34:56

, to be healthier to

34:58

have the more nestle you know up to

35:00

a point you know you could go look at these lights

35:02

gigantic by builders worth three

35:05

hundred plus pounds of pure muscle you

35:07

go like at that point you're probably

35:09

the pudding too much stress on your heart

35:11

for if you're talking strictly about

35:14

how

35:15

right

35:15

yeah absolutely right i tried

35:18

mean i know your history is like

35:20

extensive the whole bicycle

35:23

thing and your commitment to that and how

35:25

many miles you did a day and just

35:27

to support you got even from your family

35:30

or to the i adjust was so impressed

35:33

when i was listening to you and

35:36

i the the that cycling

35:38

at a gym the stationary cycling by i

35:40

try it and i've heard that if

35:42

you keep doing it your your bottom

35:45

will get used to it and i just was

35:47

three i know a little executive

35:49

princess in that way they like to see

35:51

wasn't my thing riding a bike was in the

35:53

thing i tried golfing coughing the walking

35:56

that would have been okay i had a boyfriend at the time

35:58

and we did that for a little bit my

36:00

dr doolittle the this is i mean

36:03

to center drive i had a pretty good not

36:05

strong enough to get me to the the

36:07

whole but once we broke up that

36:09

was the under that game rusty so

36:12

who not too long ago this was

36:14

during this was it

36:16

it was april twenty twenty my

36:19

neighbor who is a good friend of mine

36:22

right pip about you can tell him you got a political

36:24

ball what is it i'd never heard of

36:26

it apparently it's the fastest

36:29

growing sport in america and like so

36:31

many people are playing and playing it

36:33

was developed like in nineteen sixty

36:35

five these friends created it off the

36:38

off the coast of washington state and

36:40

it's just been growing ever since so i

36:42

played a little tennis you to

36:44

play tennis ping pong i'm

36:46

saddened it needs dot that good hand

36:49

eye coordination thing and i picked it up

36:51

just like that so now

36:53

i'm like

36:54

i love people

36:56

but

36:56

it's not it's it's fantastic

36:59

exercise

36:59

read just better

37:01

than that is fine right

37:04

way better than says like doing crunches

37:06

and do and like fire hydrants

37:09

and doing aerobics standing

37:11

you know it's street to you tube

37:13

although i do i definitely continue

37:15

to do you to the exercises i think you

37:18

get on that that one i'm that

37:20

the gets hot psn on wednesday personal

37:22

know it's is the sky

37:24

yeah i know what you're talking about will you do

37:27

it's like you do you follow along

37:29

to a video right

37:30

editor's so many teachers

37:32

and it's why it's all free and i want to work on as

37:34

today our were concludes i want to work on upper

37:36

arms or what to do so i find a balance

37:39

between that and pickle

37:41

ball and one more thing

37:43

for the whole package is

37:46

polities

37:47

nice

37:47

my body has where

37:50

i grew lineage i swear i'm taller

37:53

it does a lot of stretching you right

37:55

in my body just law

37:58

is it any can you find

38:00

out maybe you're more of a yoga

38:02

person i was a yoga their

38:04

bass

38:05

the girlfriend that a lot he's

38:07

gay i'm i'm like whoa where are we doing

38:10

today it's a process of brandy

38:12

took me to applaud his class and i will

38:14

say it was after i'd i'd

38:17

going to the gym and done a really

38:19

really intense leg day then

38:22

she was why don't overdo

38:24

it because we applaud his and i was like a polite

38:27

he says a chick thing that's not a big the only

38:29

get so and then i went to parties and

38:31

they hurt me they kicked

38:33

my ass yeah him

38:36

equipment this guy that created this

38:38

i just had sought he's long gone

38:41

it was his in eighteen hundreds that he developed

38:43

this whole thing has been passed along with

38:45

all of his original drawings and

38:48

than the than the the of

38:50

it's the gop weapon it is it's mind

38:52

blowing how you can take one piece

38:54

and it does a gazelle ian ziering

38:56

nw promote impact

38:58

yes yes for sure

39:00

and geez that the the coach

39:03

that i had she's she's amazing

39:05

to see personalizes it for me

39:07

and for my body and i just

39:09

some days i'll come in there and sad

39:12

gone away for the weekend and political ball

39:14

and i'm super sore and i

39:16

i did some like some the

39:18

damage to my body and what she

39:20

says she says to me i can tell by

39:22

the way you're watching which to do

39:25

some stretching today

39:26

as your cake rollers

39:28

and

39:29

the only right that is it's

39:31

not a day off for me

39:32

yeah

39:33

no hers is like she's

39:35

rolling on my you might you know my

39:37

my sire my i

39:40

knew the name the part the side of my side

39:42

will it three bam probably

39:44

yeah be banned the all

39:48

these areas of your body that will hold

39:50

on to tension and stuff ends with

39:52

a few minutes of doing this it releases

39:54

all that and it enables me than

39:57

to be able to carry on

39:59

the out

39:59

without any more pain is suicide

40:02

it is really benefit

40:04

shop for me yeah in all this

40:06

stuff that you're talking about his stuff that

40:09

you really enjoy are you seem to

40:11

at least in oh yeah like even the polities

40:13

you seem to enjoy doing and like

40:16

i think it's hard to vince

40:19

people to do things that they're absolutely

40:22

sure they're going to hate i

40:24

think there are things

40:26

that things thought i would hate and

40:28

then i did them and i wound up really enjoying

40:31

them but the

40:33

i do think it's important to find

40:35

some some

40:37

way of moving that you enjoy

40:39

doing coastal force movements sucks

40:42

yeah i think that's the key i

40:44

think you nailed it does that's my

40:46

this isn't my program and it

40:48

may not work for you but even

40:50

if it's the british board

40:53

i think it's just because it's it's fun

40:55

he can become really fun if it's just

40:57

exercise for the sake of exercise

41:00

for me that's i

41:03

don't know it's is not so fun it's like

41:05

way too much attention it's there's gotta be

41:07

some entertainment in cook of our

41:09

to play singles i love singles is what

41:11

and way more exercise doing

41:13

single i kicked my ass at on it's

41:15

website goes up pickle ball

41:17

yeah after single

41:18

it's it's a small court but

41:21

you guys still get from side to side it's

41:23

tough it's challenging and it's

41:26

keeps my big kiss me running my

41:28

body instead of my by

41:29

the running me a second wouldn't be

41:31

running my body around

41:33

it's super fun to but it's a different it's

41:36

different because you've got a partner there

41:39

i don't know that it's not

41:41

necessarily easier though to play

41:43

it's it's just different you have to kind

41:45

of read your partner's mine

41:48

are you staying up and my staying back

41:50

if we both back and we both miss the

41:52

ball that just goes over the net how we gonna

41:54

do in yep that kind of have us

41:57

have real coordination saying with

41:59

your partner there i like that to

42:01

they're both work outskirts for

42:03

a good aerobics work out i

42:05

like the singles and her leg

42:08

, enough friends that i can invite over because

42:11

because went ahead and go like it so much put

42:13

of course in my in i

42:15

had chickens there at one time way

42:18

too much valuable real estate for chickens

42:20

is like coal come on coal girls you

42:22

gotta go to the back of the property over

42:24

they are smaller space put

42:27

space pretty pickle ball korean and use it

42:29

and ball is it's like for it

42:31

there for me is that's amazing

42:33

yeah i think that i'm

42:36

i think that we have

42:38

kind of or we are evolving

42:42

it into being more and more sedentary

42:44

in the and this is in i think

42:46

this is a major contributing factor

42:48

to obesity

42:50

just we don't have predominantly i mean we don't

42:52

need to move really eat to live

42:54

life we don't need to really do a whole

42:57

much much of anything with our bodies

43:00

you know compared abu what

43:02

we use to hunter gatherer

43:04

looking for shelter all that kind of stuff

43:07

or body was out in the world and

43:09

now we've got you know door dash

43:12

and uber in our phones

43:14

so

43:15

absolutely it is something

43:17

to really take a look at individual

43:20

if your listeners how

43:23

much is it's it's convenient it's

43:25

really convenient to have that all done

43:27

for you

43:28

it at what expense yeah

43:30

yeah and then just the desire to

43:33

store fat because our bodies feel

43:35

safe i think when they're storing that

43:37

it's like god like a savings account

43:39

of energy

43:40

you know

43:41

yeah and that's why seen for

43:43

the for me again if you know if or

43:45

when i found out what works for me that

43:48

when i'm pretty strict during the week

43:50

or say the next trip on the to do is

43:52

gonna be mid august i'm

43:55

up until then i'm gonna be just doing what doing normally

43:58

do and do and deviations the

44:00

rear eat know deviations so

44:02

then when i go away for that weekend you

44:05

know whatever gonna happen is gonna

44:07

happen or come back and you

44:09

know it's kind of like you don't want to

44:11

get your body into a position

44:14

of like feeling like oh my

44:16

god you've changed and what's

44:20

going on in i think when somebody

44:22

does kind of us yo yo

44:24

type thing it's because the body

44:26

is it's kind of freak and outs

44:29

in a way it's like wanting to hold on to

44:31

is it different just give you an example

44:33

we don't drink enough water your

44:37

body is gonna hold on to water

44:40

we have to have water eddie's

44:42

or not replacing

44:44

the water that you sweat don't we sweat

44:46

something like a cup of water a day

44:48

yeah even if we're not moving

44:50

a lot you know even if it's show you were sweating

44:52

a little

44:53

it's constantly recycling

44:55

and if you're not replacing that

44:57

water that you're getting rid of the

44:59

bar the body's gonna hold onto

45:01

it and for me i realize

45:04

wow that's what that's

45:06

why i'm so inflamed i

45:09

i've got inflammation going inflammation here so

45:11

when i started drinking more water

45:14

yes i was paying more for sure

45:16

like all lot but

45:19

it's like

45:20

when i would

45:21

measure myself or way

45:24

my is it was clear that

45:26

my body really love that i was

45:28

drinking water he wasn't

45:30

thinking it was you know starving

45:33

or like i'm becoming

45:35

super dehydrated you know

45:38

yeah

45:39

the amazing so you're you're killing it

45:41

right now and you and you are happy

45:43

enough that you can force yourself doing

45:45

this for for the rest of your yeah

45:48

i mean i may end up at

45:50

some point in time say wow i

45:52

think i better focus little more on doubles

45:55

rather than you know putting people's

45:57

i'm not there yet to an increased

45:59

seventh day jaden live in

46:01

wyoming who's , it mean

46:03

for any mass like flunkies

46:05

out there that doesn't mean i'm in my seventies

46:07

underground it's like

46:10

it's

46:11

we're in the twenty first century it's

46:13

only is as yes

46:15

yeah and my my but

46:17

i've i've looked better i feel like

46:19

i i see pictures of myself

46:22

when i was in my twenties and in my

46:24

thirties and you know i had my kids

46:26

would i was in my thirties and it

46:28

was going on it was pack in their lunches

46:31

and eating it while i was packing it

46:33

and eating the same food that i made for

46:35

my kids that's a reality

46:37

mother's go through that and

46:40

even father's during mother's

46:42

pregnancy they're gaining

46:44

just as much wait much wait otherwise

46:47

is gaining is there it's eating the same

46:49

food to she's cooking it or he's cook

46:51

in it for her and you know it's

46:54

just i guess

46:56

it really using would you put your what

46:58

what you put your attention on your

47:00

phone of you're going to be able to solve

47:02

that problem if you don't

47:04

have a lot of attention on what you're eating

47:07

i'll just grab anything cause it's convenient

47:10

india at ice or i think

47:12

i'm and this is very

47:15

general at but this was my experience

47:18

so many times but

47:20

i think i always

47:22

wanted a one word solution

47:25

or the easiest solution

47:28

i could imagine and for me i

47:30

had this bizarre computation

47:33

in my head that weight

47:35

loss alone was the solution

47:38

and that one side achieved weight

47:40

loss i would be handled

47:42

and this was just not the case

47:44

because it kind of neglected

47:48

how i gained weight in the first place

47:51

yeah and without really addressing

47:53

all of that and going oh

47:56

a kind of need to take my life

47:58

apart like on

48:00

do all this stuff that

48:03

got me to the point that i

48:05

needed to change and that's

48:07

actually that's lot more work than

48:09

just losing weight losing weight i've lost

48:11

weight on every day you've mentioned today

48:14

every single one i lost weight none

48:17

of them solved

48:19

the problem i was trying to solve weight

48:21

loss alone wasn't that the

48:24

lucia do it was really

48:26

a reorganization of my

48:28

life

48:29

i still get that that that

48:31

makes so so much sense some

48:33

people eat is a comfort sort of a thing

48:35

it makes them feel good they have they

48:37

have some sort of a loss in their life or

48:40

and the you know and so they go

48:42

go to the refrigerator they take themselves

48:45

out in when they're hungry

48:47

they're go shopping when they're hungry and that's

48:49

and ridiculous time to go shopping you

48:52

know it's not going to solve like

48:54

what you said the underlying thing that your child

48:56

is this isn't situation as if you're not really

48:58

looking at

48:59

there's also a lot of in the diet

49:02

world data as it's i'm

49:04

either grossly negligent

49:06

or

49:07

partially true so like

49:10

you know that did you ever do

49:12

quito or actions

49:15

i did is a with options

49:17

didn't work for me i think there's a disclaimer that

49:19

says two percent of the people that do this it won't

49:21

work for a fellow i guess i was the case

49:23

i was born at all and man i love steak

49:26

and put and butter on it and as much fat

49:28

oh man did work for

49:30

me i was so

49:31

why in any years the other kind

49:34

of the point is like if

49:37

you remove all carbohydrates

49:40

from your diet

49:42

you will

49:43

you should lose weight

49:46

simply because you'll get rid of a lot

49:48

of water right yeah

49:51

that that nobody goes into a diet

49:53

i mean most people and for somebody goes

49:55

like i just gimme a water bill a p a lot

49:58

and then that's the way i want to lose but

50:00

most of us are going into a diet sinking

50:02

a want to lose fat and

50:05

it is possible on as students to

50:07

gain fat then lose

50:10

weight on the scale because you're just

50:12

getting rid of a bunch of water lives

50:14

of there's there's

50:16

you know

50:17

this idea where you can eat ten thousand calories

50:19

or you know yeah ten thousand

50:21

calories a day in bacon or

50:24

t bone steaks and lose weight it's

50:26

idea maybe the first week because you're

50:29

kissing out of glycogen

50:31

by that's not a long term solution

50:33

for any

50:34

the rapid me and don't see bacon

50:37

bacon goes good with every

50:38

listen i love bacon bacon

50:41

suffer i do one

50:43

high fat day a week which cousin

50:45

for the most part and i don't eat high

50:47

carbohydrates but like eight moderate

50:50

carbohydrate at carbohydrates and

50:52

kind of lower fat and on my day

50:54

when i don't go to the gym i increase my cited

50:57

by for my favorite day the week i get avocados

51:00

cause oil and like that's

51:02

really fun for me i prefer that

51:04

i wish i could just the high

51:06

fat and not have to worry

51:09

about anything else but the reality is i

51:11

still would have to count calories i

51:13

still would have to do that math and make

51:15

sure that my energy balance was correct

51:18

yeah

51:19

i get it i so get it in the a full

51:21

disclosure on my end when you're talking about

51:23

a cheat day because i weigh myself

51:26

on tuesdays tuesday morning

51:29

can't like right after i weigh myself tends

51:31

to be the time where i will

51:33

have like one

51:35

of the things i also love to eat is pretty low

51:37

cal actually it's about one hundred ninety

51:39

calories a cup that it's yogurt

51:42

and it's fruit and it's

51:44

it's the it's and is greek yogurt

51:46

and with like month a month fruit

51:48

to sweeten is up it's not that

51:50

many calories but i don't i

51:53

, have it every single night as

51:55

a desert because it's so rich

51:58

i will have it all

51:59

the

52:01

somebody will give me like

52:03

a shot oh here's another cheap

52:05

did i did i will have i'll go to my pantry

52:08

and it's called oh i forget the brand

52:11

the i did

52:13

the air the media are

52:15

it's are vanilla flavored almond

52:17

butter it it's like it's really

52:20

high in calories is like a hundred and

52:22

ninety calories for two tablespoons

52:25

yeah i'll go in there and in scoop

52:28

up like one tablespoon or tablespoon heaping

52:30

teaspoon and it and it

52:32

man it's like pleasure it's like taking

52:35

at christmas when you get presents

52:37

and you get ten people tend to give you chocolate

52:39

whatever is it's like he's had just

52:42

had a little chocolate added to it it's

52:44

like such a spoiler treat but i do

52:46

i don't i don't disregard

52:49

it i added that that's less

52:51

the day that i will say i don't

52:53

i'm i'm comfort about it but

52:55

i figure i i i account

52:57

it i was at a hotel

53:00

in the mid west and there

53:04

was nothing really great

53:06

for me to eat in the hotel and i

53:08

was walking around looking for stuff in there

53:10

was nothing really anywhere near me

53:13

and i stumbled into a

53:15

i starbucks

53:16

then i was like oh i see fruit

53:19

and eggs in a package and i

53:21

bought all about ten of these packages

53:23

of fruit next and then i got back to my room and i

53:25

open them up and i sound

53:27

that little thing of almond butter

53:29

in with the fruit mags and i'm i'm

53:32

very much like at that's a sad i'm

53:34

on a carb day i'm not eating the almond

53:36

butter and towards the end of the night

53:39

i was like

53:39

doing the math and i was like oh i

53:42

still have like five hundred calories

53:44

last

53:45

and i opened one of these almond butter

53:47

packs yeah now vanilla in it

53:49

but i hadn't had anything like that in a while

53:52

and boy was a good one tablespoon

53:55

of alabama

53:57

i know these little things

53:59

that we guy

53:59

but

54:02

you know it's a nice treat it is

54:04

the diversion is the tree but temperate

54:06

you know

54:06

the account what whatever yeah

54:09

the man on nancy thank you so

54:12

much this been really fun conversation

54:14

oh such pleasure of nice

54:16

he knew to i know this is an audio kind

54:18

of a thing but such a pleasure

54:20

he then i just adore you love

54:22

watching what you're doing the changes

54:24

that have happened with you you're such

54:27

a you're such an opinion leader in this area

54:29

it's admirable disciplining such

54:31

a great example i'm telling you

54:34

it gives peep this this podcast

54:36

you have can give people a whole new lease

54:38

on life listening to your

54:40

your viewpoints and others viewpoints

54:42

about how to secure everybody

54:44

in what more than anything i'm

54:47

for people who have had

54:50

a lot of failures cause i

54:52

have had a lot of failures

54:54

i just want to spread the message

54:57

that like it can be done beautiful

55:00

yeah was such a pleasure to be a part

55:02

of that are they for having me they

55:04

talk to you soon

55:09

and now for the q and a today's

55:12

question comes from karen hi karen

55:14

karen says hi ethan and page congrats

55:17

page congrats great podcast thanks

55:19

karen

55:20

she says i'm wondering if you

55:22

have some six

55:23

and on how to overcome the

55:25

all or nothing mindset

55:27

size do here in

55:30

the the all or nothing mindset is

55:32

a really really really

55:34

tough one

55:35

i know i started laughing and like that scamming

55:37

please can you help me he

55:40

said either i'm smashing it at the gym

55:42

and meal prepping or i'm not going

55:45

to the gym and eating junk

55:47

the sauce well i had this

55:49

cookie candy i can just finish this

55:52

is well it's

55:53

frustrating and my progress is constantly

55:56

stalled

55:56

have you struggled with this and you have any suggestions

55:59

all the

55:59

from iceland oh nice

56:02

i frames i picture only

56:05

i'm very sick people

56:07

who are also simultaneously

56:09

very large people in iceland

56:11

and tall yeah and formerly vikings

56:14

that's what i picture to i'm and

56:16

they eat from and to shark when

56:18

success that sounds

56:21

super advertising right arm

56:23

and penguins maybe okay

56:26

yes all or nothing what's

56:28

karen's last name i guess you can't say

56:30

it but i bet it's pretty cool as it's somebody's daughter

56:32

oh interesting so i don't usually say don't

56:35

have that thinks i'm nuts and and but is it somebody's daughter

56:38

then someone you know know know like

56:41

is or so and so's daughter

56:43

part of her last name oh

56:46

no

56:47

way way way way

56:49

that is there a way you say

56:51

water yeah it makes landings

56:53

daughter or fran owner or

56:55

like herbert's daughter but i'm not

56:57

having those aren't exactly

56:58

oh i know what you're saying and now just reading

57:01

it i kind of think

57:02

yeah those are going to look at our

57:04

names of drinks and literally

57:06

i think the way that works is

57:08

like that was her dad's name

57:11

and see his see his wow

57:13

i'm can't am going to look at as white wire

57:15

answering i'm looking at up poker cake

57:18

it's not spoke exactly the same way riseborough

57:20

daughter brought i think icelandic people

57:22

are so cool for for all those reasons

57:25

guess

57:26

then they have like four chinos i've never been

57:28

to iceland

57:30

it seems like such a rad place to go

57:33

and i just looked it up and yes she is somebody

57:35

started somebody's daughter that is so cool i mean

57:37

honestly she somebody started but that's why

57:39

i didn't also literally somebody starter yes

57:42

god digressed you're all or nothing

57:45

all or nothing yeah

57:47

okay so

57:48

i was very much all or nothing

57:50

for a long time

57:52

and

57:54

i guess the thing that most helped me

57:56

with the or nothing thing was i

57:58

was always

57:59

working towards a

58:02

goal

58:03

which i believed was the end

58:06

so

58:08

when i when is it is an

58:10

in and not that i always made it to that goal

58:13

because many times i would like burn out before

58:15

i got there but the

58:17

this need to kind of like

58:20

damage myself well like

58:22

harm myself into being fit

58:25

or you know punish myself

58:27

into being center

58:29

the by like withholding an extreme

58:31

amount of calories

58:33

usually

58:35

was kind of tied into i have

58:37

to get to some point right

58:40

and the idea was that

58:42

point was the finish line so

58:45

i'm going to work really hard

58:47

that now that's for me maybe you're just

58:49

all or nothing and

58:51

you're going like my life is gonna be better if

58:53

i'm all for ever

58:56

the problem with that is it's unsustainable

58:59

right this all kind of

59:01

mentality in the in

59:03

the gym this kind of

59:05

kill yourself every day

59:07

you know

59:08

really does statistically

59:11

n also anecdotally for me lead

59:13

to injury which then you're really

59:15

fucked because you're nothing at

59:17

that point whether you want to be or not

59:19

write your see are sitting in bed ceiling

59:22

you can't go to the gym whatever it

59:24

is your overtraining so

59:27

that the the snow way that

59:29

i really kind of reshape my thinking

59:31

about this was really

59:34

looking at it as like i'm never gonna be cured

59:37

i'm never going to be a

59:40

thin person who feels really good about

59:42

themselves who has high self esteem

59:44

who never has to watch

59:46

their step around food or be

59:49

diligent in maintaining

59:53

a schedule at the gym that's

59:55

never going to happen there is no

59:57

cure for me there is no ma'am

1:00:00

the kuwait i'm going to get to where

1:00:02

i don't have to think about it anymore this

1:00:04

is going to be a life one thing

1:00:06

for me so how can i

1:00:09

think about my wife and go like oh

1:00:12

i've says if is no there is no

1:00:14

end there's will finish line what

1:00:17

do i want out of this what

1:00:20

is sustainable for ever

1:00:23

what is not going to drive me crazy

1:00:26

not gonna make me you

1:00:28

know so kind of movement

1:00:32

make life so lackluster that it's not

1:00:34

even worth living right you know what i mean like if

1:00:36

somebody said to me and

1:00:38

there were certainly points when i

1:00:42

had these thoughts that like if if i

1:00:44

just couldn't taste couldn't experience

1:00:46

joy with sued anymore i

1:00:48

would be better and now i go like

1:00:50

know that that would suck

1:00:53

like that would really suck i

1:00:55

enjoy the way food tastes

1:00:58

you know that's certainly a part of it now

1:01:02

the fine meaning

1:01:04

more into the enjoyment of food

1:01:06

than i am and to what it's doing to my body

1:01:08

and how it out servicing me

1:01:10

then i can get in trouble what

1:01:12

even within the confines of

1:01:14

what i'm doing strictly i want my

1:01:17

food to taste good at it it's

1:01:19

in on a mean like guides fuck around with

1:01:21

sauces and you

1:01:23

know there are some people who really don't care

1:01:26

about the taste of food and like they're

1:01:28

just it's just fuel and

1:01:31

why i try to do that i still

1:01:33

want to get a little bit of pleasure out

1:01:35

of it in or out a hot sauce big and for

1:01:37

that reason like it's got

1:01:40

no calories and it brings me

1:01:42

a little bit of a hint of joy right

1:01:45

so

1:01:47

how can i live forever

1:01:49

realizing that it is forever

1:01:51

that i have to be kind of thinking about this

1:01:53

m m m while i say that

1:01:56

they won that the day that

1:01:58

you go like oh this is for

1:01:59

however

1:02:01

is not the same as a few

1:02:03

years in to thinking about it forever

1:02:05

you kind of start to figure

1:02:08

it out in your life changes

1:02:10

out to the point where

1:02:13

you're not thinking about it as

1:02:15

much right so that

1:02:18

first you're going like got

1:02:20

i need to radically change

1:02:22

my life and not

1:02:24

in the pursuit of one specific goal

1:02:27

but in the pursuit of maintaining

1:02:29

something forever those are two

1:02:31

different things right like if you're if

1:02:34

somebody said you

1:02:36

you gotta run a marathon

1:02:38

the training for a marathon is a specific

1:02:40

thing and then you do the marathon

1:02:43

and if you've got nothing beyond that maybe

1:02:45

don't have to do it anymore she didn't fall

1:02:47

in love with running but if you said

1:02:49

i gotta run

1:02:51

you know

1:02:52

two miles or five k or something

1:02:54

every day or once a week

1:02:56

for the rest of my life that's gonna

1:02:59

look a little bit different than training

1:03:01

for a marathon so for me it was

1:03:03

the difference between short term thinking

1:03:06

and long term thinking a wanted

1:03:08

design my program so that

1:03:11

i can do it for ever

1:03:14

right and

1:03:15

there are certain things that are gonna get my

1:03:17

weight down and then i'm in a break

1:03:19

those up with maintenance very because

1:03:22

maintenance is the forever

1:03:24

part

1:03:25

and that's just as hard to somebody

1:03:27

who it

1:03:30

is dieting as

1:03:32

you know what i mean like if you if you were just

1:03:34

living kind of mindlessly and gaining weight

1:03:37

and then one day woke up and went like

1:03:39

i gotta change i gotta lose

1:03:41

weight right and then you lose weight

1:03:43

and then you go like will now me to go back to however

1:03:45

swimming before i lost weight you can begin the

1:03:47

way back right so

1:03:50

if you want to maintain your weight loss

1:03:52

it's maintenance

1:03:53

learning how to do that before

1:03:56

you arrive there i think is really

1:03:58

smart right

1:03:59

the

1:04:01

if you're gonna be like it the

1:04:05

an indy car racer

1:04:07

learning to drive in your first

1:04:10

race there's maybe

1:04:12

not the best strategy right

1:04:14

but if you're learning little

1:04:16

bits and pieces while you

1:04:19

the euro start driving around know that

1:04:21

fucking an analogy went to shit for me but

1:04:23

i'm so much pointy ears dying right

1:04:25

like my point is is if

1:04:27

you're thinking that you achieve something

1:04:30

at the end of a diet but

1:04:32

that you don't have to then do any work

1:04:35

on yourself and you

1:04:37

and you just are going to magically not

1:04:39

have any of the habits and behaviors

1:04:41

that existed prior to the diet or

1:04:45

if it's if it's a gym things like

1:04:47

i'm honestly saying all this and i'm picturing

1:04:49

some cross fit six

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who's icelandic you know

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what i mean who just like hills in

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the gym everyday that's the only picture

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of an icelandic gal that i have my sister's

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to somebody his daughter carrying

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somebody's daughter from iceland and

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i'm going like god maybe she doesn't

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need to maybe she's not talking about weight loss

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at all she just hard core in the gyms

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and i missing her entirely and she's

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like she's don't wanna be so hard

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core in the gym on anna

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are in i'm again just saying i would

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try to design a

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the thing that forever right answers

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he can't if you really take into

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account the fact that your body needs

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rest you have to also

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there's as much occurring

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in rest as there is in

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activity rights you're lifting weights

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and you want to get smart stronger or or

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have your muscles be bigger

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or even if you're just preserving muscle tissue

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in a in a calorie deficit right

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why happens in rest like you

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do this things your muscles

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in you damage them to some degree and

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then you have to give them time

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repair and when they repair the repair

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stronger or the repair bigger or

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wow you're losing weight

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they repair to maintain their

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size right so these are the this

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this different ways i think about

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resistance training and what

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happens in rest so you're just

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imaging yourself every day at the gym

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right because is is that means that's

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part of what we're doing in the gym word damaging

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our body so that it can get stronger

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or maintain strength right

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there's a point where

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it's gonna be negative

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it's gonna be so much damage that a can't

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repair itself and then what the fuck are we doing

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we just masochist in the gym right

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and then what that leads

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to his injury which stops

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you from continuing to do

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that so if we're just

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strictly talking about jim stuff

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you guys have design and program

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that isn't so extreme because

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when i think about extreme it

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it who who has only lead me to

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injury and so when you fall

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off of that extreme what even if it's not

1:07:09

from injuries it's very easy

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because that extreme is so hard

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to just go like done i'm not

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doing anymore you know what i mean i'm

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and so that's how i think about the

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, or nothing type of

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a mindset that i used to have a

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slight that the things that i'm doing

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for my body i hope to be doing

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for the rest of my life now i

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have to design something that's sustainable

1:07:35

that something can stick to the you know and that's number

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one what can i do for the rest of my life

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i can eat mostly healthy and

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when i say house i mean like really

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that the first parameter of that for me

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as with them my caloric boundaries

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and then in the gym i can design

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a workouts where like

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i miss days all the time and

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then i just do it the next day

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right if i'm at work

1:07:59

something comes up it's

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like not in the world if i miss a day

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miss a day i can just do it the next a it's not

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so extreme that if i miss

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a day there's even a temptation

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of dimming

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the

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pretty awesome i feel like i went some

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weird places on that one now

1:08:18

i think you answered it perfectly and

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yeah it's a fantastic reminder

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and yeah i've got a lot

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out of your answer night censure to guess

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karen will hill and

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karen

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if you are

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exactly what i'm picturing them

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were cool and if you're not

1:08:38

one of the you know really the the

1:08:41

people that i know

1:08:43

i have like who i could point to and go like

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that that gals from iceland

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or crossfit famous

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crossfit the girls and

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so

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i'm really sorry that i'm just assuming

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all icelandic women are

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like you know valkyries

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right but i'm i learn

1:09:04

something about the names and how

1:09:07

people from iceland can have this somebody

1:09:10

his daughter name i didn't know german

1:09:12

another settlements gotta

1:09:14

the we're not going to say his name now

1:09:16

or hurt

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well it's usually a dude i

1:09:20

think isn't always

1:09:22

it really and man the give you that hint

1:09:24

of case of has dallas daughter

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she is

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oh that's cool that's

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, cool i thought it was all like i'm

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a unless i'm reading this wrong an argument

1:09:34

just email her oscar

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but yeah unless i'm reading it wrong i'm pretty

1:09:40

sure she's a gals daughter in this name okay

1:09:42

that's cool i didn't know that

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well thanks for that here and thank

1:09:47

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