Podchaser Logo
Home
The Pinkerton Detective Agency | "We Never Sleep"

The Pinkerton Detective Agency | "We Never Sleep"

Released Wednesday, 8th May 2024
Good episode? Give it some love!
The Pinkerton Detective Agency | "We Never Sleep"

The Pinkerton Detective Agency | "We Never Sleep"

The Pinkerton Detective Agency | "We Never Sleep"

The Pinkerton Detective Agency | "We Never Sleep"

Wednesday, 8th May 2024
Good episode? Give it some love!
Rate Episode

Episode Transcript

Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.

Use Ctrl + F to search

0:00

Wondery Plus subscribers can binge new

0:02

seasons of American history tellers early

0:04

and ad-free right now. Join Wondery

0:06

Plus in the Wondery app or

0:08

on Apple Podcasts. ["Wondery

0:10

Plus Imagine

0:24

it's February 15th, 1861. You're

0:27

an undercover Pinkerton agent posing as a

0:30

stockbroker from Georgia, and you're being escorted

0:32

into a dark and smoky Baltimore bar.

0:35

You're here to meet the leader of

0:37

a secret group of pro-slavery rebels aligned

0:39

with the newly formed Confederacy. You're

0:42

investigating rumors that they're plotting to kill

0:44

the president, Abraham Lincoln. A

0:47

stoned-faced man leads you by the arm

0:49

through the crowded bar and into a

0:51

quieter backroom parlor. Sitting at

0:53

a scuff table is the leader

0:55

of the group, Cipriano Ferandini, a

0:57

slight balding man with an enormous

0:59

mustache. After immigrating from Corsica,

1:01

he opened a barbershop here in Baltimore.

1:04

He also took up the Confederate cause,

1:06

and his shop became a gathering place

1:09

for fellow secessionists. Seeing you

1:11

approach, he nods for you to sit. Can

1:13

we get you something, a whiskey perhaps? Yeah,

1:15

that'd be nice, thanks. You

1:18

take a seat as a bartender pours you a drink. Ferandini

1:21

stares at you with piercing eyes. So our

1:23

friend here tells me you're one of us.

1:26

Nod and raise your glass. I

1:28

think it's admirable what you and your men are doing. Yours

1:31

is a noble cause. It's more than

1:33

noble. The future of the country's

1:35

at stake. This is life and death. Well agreed.

1:37

May I ask, what are you planning to do

1:39

about the new president? The man

1:42

who helped set up this meeting has assured you

1:44

that Ferandini thinks you're a secessionist and a friend

1:46

of the South. You know his

1:48

group is in need of funds, and the $25

1:50

donation you made helped get you in the door

1:53

today. You promised to provide even

1:55

more financial support, but you can tell

1:57

he's wary and still sizing you up.

2:00

Well, you seem like a friend to our cause, so

2:02

I'll tell you. Week from today,

2:04

the North will need another president. Lincoln

2:06

will be a corpse. What about the

2:08

authorities? Don't worry about them. They're

2:11

with us. You'd heard the

2:13

Baltimore Police Department was full of rebel

2:15

sympathizers. And now you have some proof,

2:17

but you need more. How can

2:19

you be so sure? I've spoken with Police

2:21

Chief Kane. Let's just say he won't shed

2:24

a tear over Lincoln's body. But surely Lincoln

2:26

would be protected while he's here in town.

2:29

Well, we know he'll have bodyguards, perhaps even

2:31

Pinkerton agents. But we have a plan. We're

2:34

going to cause a little riot in the streets

2:36

outside Calvert Street Station. And when the

2:38

police respond to that disturbance, we'll be able to

2:40

get close enough to Lincoln to take action. And

2:43

who's going to take this action? Ferradini

2:46

glares at you. You worry. Maybe

2:49

you've asked too much and aroused his suspicion. Oh,

2:51

I can't tell you any more than that. You

2:53

understand. Oh, well, of course, of

2:55

course. Just know this. Lincoln

2:58

will not leave Baltimore alive. And

3:00

after next week, all Maryland will be free

3:02

and the South will soon follow. Ferradini

3:06

stands. And now I'll leave you.

3:08

But be careful, my friend. Her

3:10

spy's everywhere. You

3:14

nod as Ferradini turns to leave. You've

3:16

been working undercover on this case for weeks

3:18

and now finally have proof that the president's

3:20

life is in danger. You just

3:23

hope you can get a secret message out fast

3:25

enough to foil the plot. You

3:27

and your detective agency are the only thing standing

3:29

in the way of the murder of the president.

3:36

American History Tellers is sponsored by

3:38

the podcast Expedition Unknown. Did

3:41

you know that there's proof that Robin

3:43

Hood might have been a real person

3:45

even using secret underground passageways to rob

3:47

the rich or that gold coins discovered

3:49

in Florida may be connected to a

3:52

Spanish treasure fleet on the Expedition Unknown

3:54

podcast from Discovery host Josh Gates travels

3:56

the world to investigate these and more

3:58

of history's greatest unknown. unsolved mysteries.

4:00

He'll take you looking for art

4:02

stolen by the Nazis, exploring mysterious

4:05

caves in Nepal, and deciphering giant

4:07

geolifts drawn into the earth in

4:09

Peru. Travel the globe with Josh

4:11

Gates as he investigates some of

4:13

humanity's greatest feats and most iconic

4:15

legends. Listen to Expedition Unknown wherever

4:17

you get your podcasts. American

4:21

History Tellers is sponsored by Amica. As

4:23

they say at Amica, empathy is our

4:25

best company. Whether you need auto, home,

4:27

or life insurance, Amica is ready to

4:30

help you protect the things that matter

4:32

most to you. They're a mutual company,

4:34

customer-owned, and in service to you. Amica

4:36

representatives are there when you need them, and

4:38

you can take comfort knowing that a real

4:40

person will be there on the phone to

4:42

take care of you, because the greatest measure

4:44

of their success is your satisfaction. From

4:53

Wundery, I'm Lindsey Graham, and this

4:55

is American History Tellers. Our history,

4:57

yours. In

5:13

our show, we'll take you to the

5:16

events, the times, and the people that

5:18

shaped America and Americans. Our values, our

5:20

struggles, and our dreams. We'll

5:22

put you in the shoes of everyday people as

5:24

history was being made, and we'll show

5:26

you how the events of the times affected them,

5:28

their families, and affects you now. The

5:31

Pinkerton Detective Agency was founded in the

5:34

1850s by Scottish immigrant Alan Pinkerton.

5:37

After working as a detective in

5:39

Chicago, Pinkerton formed a private crime-fighting

5:41

agency and recruited elite detectives, including

5:44

a few groundbreaking women, to chase

5:46

down counterfeiters, bank robbers, train

5:48

bandits, and jewel thieves. And in

5:50

1861, the growing

5:52

agency undertook a daring operation to

5:54

prevent the assassination of President Abraham

5:57

Lincoln. Undercover Pinkerton Agents

5:59

obtain. Crucial information from secret

6:01

secessionists groups and Baltimore that helped

6:03

soil the plot. During.

6:06

The Civil War. Pinkerton and As Agents

6:08

often work for the Union as undercover

6:10

spies in Washington and behind Confederate lies.

6:13

And. They would lay the groundwork for the

6:15

first said role law enforcement Organization The

6:17

Secret Service. After the war,

6:19

pictures and agents turn their attention to

6:21

hunting the nation's most notorious Wild West

6:24

outlaws from Jesse James to Butch Cassidy

6:26

and the Sundance Kid. But.

6:28

By the early nineteen Hundreds, the

6:30

agency's aggressive tactics on behalf of

6:32

powerful corporations lead the public to

6:34

question whose side to Pinkerton's were

6:37

really on. In. This series

6:39

will trace the origins in evolution of

6:41

the Painters and Detective Agency, from it's

6:43

modest start fighting crime in Chicago to

6:45

it's success as a precursor to modern

6:47

day private security firms. And

6:50

if you want to learn more about

6:52

how the Pinkerton's help save Abraham Lincoln

6:54

from a pre Civil War assassination plot,

6:56

you can read about it in the

6:58

forthcoming book inspired by American history Tellers.

7:00

The hidden history of the White House

7:03

takes readers inside the iconic seat of

7:05

American presidential power and reveals fifteen behind

7:07

the scenes moments that changed the course

7:10

of history. Is. Available for pre

7:12

order now and out. June fourth from

7:14

William Morrow, an imprint of Harper Collins.

7:17

This. Is episode one of our three

7:19

part series on the Pinkerton Detective

7:21

Agency. We mother says. Alan

7:27

Pinkerton was born and eighteen nineteen,

7:29

into a working class crime ridden

7:31

neighborhood called the Gorbals of Glasgow,

7:33

Scotland. The youngest of eleven

7:35

children. Allen's father died when he

7:37

was ten years old. His mother

7:40

worked at a spinning mill but struggled to put

7:42

enough food on the table and provide for the

7:44

large family. To. Help make ends

7:46

meet. Alan less school to work as an

7:48

errand boy and in a sandwich shop. At

7:50

eighteen he became an apprentice barrel maker.

7:53

he joined the cooper's union and became

7:55

active in a left leaning political movement

7:57

called sarcasm name for the people's charter

8:00

1838, a call for better pay and voting

8:02

rights for the working class of the United

8:04

Kingdom. Pinkerton raised funds for the

8:07

chartists and joined protest rallies, some of

8:09

which turned violent. He later

8:11

claimed that by 1841 his activities as a

8:13

labor activist made him an outlaw with a

8:15

price on his head. A year

8:18

later, at age 23, he attended

8:20

a fundraising concert for striking mill

8:22

workers. There he fell for

8:24

a pretty young singer named Joan Carfrae.

8:27

The two married in 1842 and

8:29

soon left Scotland for America. But

8:32

at the end of a stormy four-week

8:34

journey, their ship ran aground off Nova

8:36

Scotia. Pinkerton, his wife, and

8:38

the other passengers were forced to row

8:40

ashore in life rafts, leaving most of

8:42

their possessions behind. When they

8:45

finally did make it to America, the

8:47

couple decided to head west, first to

8:49

Detroit, then Chicago, before settling 40 miles

8:51

further west in Dundee, Illinois, where Allen

8:54

set up shop making beer kegs. And

8:57

it was in 1846 that while

8:59

collecting wood for barrel staves on an

9:01

island on the Fox River, Pinkerton stumbled

9:03

across the secret hideout of a group

9:06

of wanted counterfeiters. He notified

9:08

the local sheriff, then joined the posse

9:10

that arrested the gang. This led

9:12

the county sheriff to ask Pinkerton to

9:14

serve as a part-time deputy sheriff and

9:17

help with occasional investigations and arrests.

9:20

Pinkerton enjoyed the work. So

9:22

in 1847, he sold his Cooperidge and

9:24

he and Joan moved to Chicago. He

9:27

worked there as a deputy in the Cook

9:29

County Sheriff's Office before taking a job as

9:31

a detective for the Chicago Mayor's Office. He

9:34

quickly made a name for himself as a

9:36

tough, honest lawman and was then hired as

9:38

a special agent for the postal service where

9:41

he went undercover and helped break a mail

9:43

theft ring. A Chicago newspaper

9:45

praised his investigative work declaring, we doubt

9:47

he has any equal in the country.

9:50

These early experiences as an investigator taught

9:53

Pinkerton some tricks of the trade, but

9:55

also revealed to him the shortcomings of

9:57

public law enforcement. He soon saw an

10:00

opportunity for a private enterprise. In

10:02

the mid-1800s, as American expansion

10:05

churned westward, trainloads of

10:07

goods were being transported across the

10:09

country. This included safes

10:11

full of cash and gold which

10:13

tempted greedy employees and armed robbers.

10:16

At the time, publicly funded police departments were

10:18

still in their infancy. Small-town

10:20

cops were untrained, unreliable, and

10:23

prone to corruption. Both

10:25

corporations and ordinary citizens often

10:27

distrusted them, and with

10:29

no national investigative force to stop

10:31

these robberies and the murderous gangs

10:33

behind them, local police were often

10:35

outmanned and outgunned. Seeing

10:37

an opportunity, around 1853, Pinkerton created

10:41

his own private security and investigative

10:43

force called the Northwestern Police Agency.

10:47

Pinkerton's timing was ideal. A

10:49

number of new courier companies, including

10:51

American Express and Wells Fargo, were

10:53

moving goods and currency by rail.

10:56

And because of the lack of assistance

10:58

from local law enforcement, these companies began

11:01

to hire private agencies like Pinkertons to

11:03

investigate theft and chase robbers. So

11:06

throughout the mid-1850s, Pinkerton expanded his

11:08

operation, assembling a team of young

11:10

agents, including former police officers and

11:13

newspaper reporters. By 1856, Pinkerton

11:16

had a staff of eight, mostly

11:18

working on retainer for railroad companies

11:20

and investigating cases of counterfeiting and

11:22

fraud. And to protect his

11:24

agency's reputation, Pinkerton required all his

11:26

employees to agree to a set

11:28

of ethical guidelines or guiding principles.

11:31

Pinkerton wanted his operatives, as he called

11:33

them, to be pure and above reproach,

11:36

men of high order of mind. It

11:38

wasn't unusual that the field of crime

11:41

detection was almost exclusively a male profession

11:43

at the time, and initially Pinkerton's agents

11:45

were all men. But in 1856, a

11:48

woman walked into his Chicago office. Kate

11:51

Warren, a widower in her 20s, was working

11:53

as a housemaid when she visited Pinkerton's office

11:56

and asked for a job. Pinkerton

11:58

responded by telling to Secretary.

12:01

Warren replied that she was applying to be a

12:03

detective. At the time, it

12:05

was rare for women to work outside the

12:08

home, let alone in a male-dominated business, and

12:10

Pinkerton had never heard of a female detective.

12:13

But Warren convinced him that she could get

12:15

men to trust her, and unlike a male

12:17

agent, she'd be able to coax out information

12:19

from the wives and girlfriends of suspected thieves.

12:22

She said she could worm out secrets in

12:24

ways that are impossible for male detectives. Pinkerton

12:27

decided to take a chance, and Warren

12:29

became the first female detective in America,

12:32

quickly establishing herself as a reliable

12:34

and effective operative. Pinkerton

12:37

soon assigned her to a high-profile case involving the

12:39

theft of $40,000 from the Adams

12:42

Express Company. It would become

12:44

his company's first big test. Imagine

12:50

it's late May 1858. You're

12:53

a female Pinkerton detective working undercover

12:56

in Jenkontown, Pennsylvania. Your

12:58

mission is to extract information from a

13:00

woman whose husband is suspected of stealing

13:02

from his employer, the Adams Express Company.

13:05

You had a break in the case a few

13:07

weeks earlier, when the woman's young daughter, Flora, fell

13:09

while she was running on a gravel path. Luckily,

13:12

you were nearby and rushed over to help

13:14

her. The mother, Mrs. Maroney,

13:16

thanked you, and you struck up a

13:18

friendship. So today you're walking

13:20

with Mrs. Maroney and her daughter along the

13:23

same gravel path through the colorful town gardens.

13:25

You're hoping today might be the day she

13:28

divulges some useful information. You decide

13:30

to plan her sympathies. Oh,

13:32

well, thank you for walking with me today. I've been

13:34

in such a melancholy mood, and I needed

13:36

someone to talk to. Well, of course, dear.

13:39

I enjoy our little walks. Tell

13:41

me what's been bothering you. Oh, I worry what you'll

13:43

think of me. Come now, you can tell

13:45

me anything. Let's sit down over here. He

13:49

steers you to a bench, and you both sit while

13:51

Flora plays with a doll in the grass. Well, the

13:53

truth is, my husband was

13:56

arrested, charged with forgery. I'm

13:58

sure he's innocent, but the judge won't let me see. Him

14:00

without his income I'm penniless. I don't

14:02

know what to do. sorry, burden you

14:04

with is no, not at all. And

14:07

since you confided in me, I feel

14:09

I can do the same. I can

14:11

understand your situation very well. My husband

14:14

has also been charged with he has

14:16

yes and I'm afraid he's in serious

14:18

trouble is charged him with taking forty

14:21

thousand dollars stealing it from his employer.

14:23

I worry smaller might never see him

14:25

again or husband's leave us with no

14:28

means of taking care of ourselves. Will

14:30

actually my husband did recently. Possible a

14:33

lot of money. He swears he earned

14:35

it legally though and didn't steal it.

14:37

I'm not so sure what has been

14:39

a dude? I don't know. Mrs. Maroney

14:42

looks around nervously for now I've wrapped

14:44

it in the closet buried in in

14:46

the cellar and you think I should?

14:48

You pat her arm and give her

14:51

a reassuring smile. Nothing you can smart

14:53

where it is waiting to your husband

14:55

is struck you. Otherwise, it's when I

14:57

would do. You.

15:01

Maintain a doleful expression in your face,

15:03

but secretly you are thrilled your ruse

15:05

work. Mrs. Maroney has confessed her husband

15:07

gave him the money. You're already eager

15:09

to send word your boss that you

15:12

found the missing kiss. And.

15:17

Eighteen Fifty six, the Adams Express Company

15:19

lost forty thousand dollars. They. Contacted

15:22

Allen Pinkerton seeking his help to

15:24

recover. Pinkerton. Immediately suspected an

15:26

inside job and came to believe that

15:28

Nathan Maroney and Adams Express Company manager

15:31

was the thief. Moroni,

15:33

Have been well liked and respected by his

15:35

coworkers. But. After he started buying

15:37

expensive clothes and staying in fancy

15:39

hotels, Pinkerton had him followed and

15:42

eventually arrested. On Pinkerton still

15:44

needed more evidence for a condition, and his

15:46

primary objective was to find the missing money.

15:49

So. He signed Kate Worn to go

15:51

undercover to befriend Moroni. his wife. Worn.

15:54

Helps break the case and recovered nearly

15:56

all the stolen money. Maroney.

15:58

Was convicted and sentenced to ten years. in

16:00

prison. Pinkerton was impressed by

16:02

Warren's work and later said, She succeeded

16:04

far beyond my utmost expectations, and I

16:07

soon found her an invaluable acquisition to

16:09

my fourth. Warren was

16:11

smart and confident, tough yet trustworthy, with

16:13

an honest face that others opened up

16:16

to. She was at

16:18

ease in social settings, but equally

16:20

comfortable in dangerous situations, delivering classified

16:22

documents or working undercover. She

16:24

easily adopted accents and could make herself

16:27

cry at will. She also

16:29

became a master of disguise, able to

16:31

pose as a secretary or an aristocrat.

16:34

And after her exemplary work on the

16:36

Adams Express Company case, Pinkerton

16:38

rewarded Warren by naming her a

16:40

superintendent of his new female detective

16:42

bureau, and he authorized her to

16:44

recruit more female agents. The

16:46

success of the Adams Express job

16:49

also brought Pinkerton more widespread acclaim.

16:51

He was soon inundated with new

16:53

business and decided to rename his

16:55

company, the Pinkerton National Detective Agency.

16:58

His wife, Joan, came up with a slogan,

17:00

We Never Sleep, and Alan created a logo

17:02

of a wide open eye to go with

17:04

it. In time, people would

17:06

refer to Pinkerton as the eye, and

17:08

his agents would become known as private

17:10

eyes. Pinkerton was now

17:13

a well-known man of the law, but

17:15

there was one law he declined to

17:17

uphold, the Fugitive Slave Act

17:19

of 1850. This legislation required

17:21

all officers of the law, public

17:23

and private, to return runaway slaves

17:25

to their owners. It also

17:28

imposed heavy fines on anyone who assisted

17:30

fugitives. But Pinkerton had a

17:32

moral objection to the law. He

17:34

and his wife Joan, who now had two

17:36

boys and two girls of their own, were

17:38

devout abolitionists. Their small cottage

17:40

in Dundee had served as a safe

17:42

house on the Underground Railroad, and Alan

17:45

had been a representative to Illinois's Anti-Slavery

17:47

Liberty Party. He called slavery

17:49

a curse to the American nation. And

17:52

even when the Pinkertons moved to Chicago in

17:54

1849, they continued to welcome

17:56

families fleeing enslavement in the South, providing

17:58

them with food. closed, and

18:00

shelter. And it was

18:03

in early 1859 that abolitionist

18:05

John Brown visited Pinkerton. Brown

18:07

was helping a group of people escaping slavery

18:10

make their way to Canada and needed more

18:12

funding for the journey. Pinkerton not

18:14

only raised money for Brown's group, but used

18:16

his connections to secure a special railroad car

18:18

to carry them the rest of the way

18:21

from Chicago and into Canada. Because

18:23

by now Pinkerton had become acquainted with many of

18:25

the men who led the railroad companies. One

18:28

of them was a fellow Scotsman, George

18:30

McClellan, then an executive with the Illinois

18:32

Central Railroad. McClellan was a

18:34

handsome West Point grad and a veteran

18:36

of the Mexican-American War. After

18:39

the Illinois Central Railroad hired Pinkerton to

18:41

investigate a string of robberies, the two

18:43

men became fast friends. Through

18:45

McClellan, Pinkerton also met a tall, skinny

18:47

lawyer who did legal work for the

18:49

railroad. Eventually, that lawyer, Abraham

18:51

Lincoln, was elected president in 1860. And in

18:53

early 1861, Lincoln made plans for

18:56

an 11-day railroad tour from

19:00

his home in Springfield, Illinois through New

19:02

England and to Washington, D.C., where he

19:04

would be inaugurated on March 4. Lincoln

19:07

planned to stop in 70 cities and

19:09

towns along the way, but despite

19:11

the contentiousness of his election, Lincoln

19:13

declined to bring a military escort.

19:16

And he insisted that his schedule be announced to

19:18

the public so that crowds could greet him. But

19:21

then Samuel Felton, president of the

19:23

Philadelphia, Wilmington, and Baltimore Railroad, heard

19:25

rumors of a plot to sabotage

19:27

his rail lines and possibly even

19:29

harm Lincoln. Felton hired

19:32

Pinkerton to investigate these rumors. And

19:34

after he confirmed that there was an

19:36

assassination plot, he tried to get Lincoln

19:38

to cancel the public tour, but the

19:40

president-elect refused. Pinkerton then came up

19:43

with a secret plan that he hoped would

19:45

deliver Lincoln to Washington safely. He

19:47

signed his star agent, Kate Warren, to go

19:49

undercover and play a key role in the

19:51

mission to keep the president safe. American

20:00

History Tellers is sponsored by T-Mobile.

20:02

You can count on T-Mobile to

20:04

help keep you connected. After investing

20:06

billions to light up their network

20:08

from big cities to small towns,

20:10

T-Mobile is America's largest 5G

20:12

network. Plus, when you switch to T-Mobile,

20:14

families and small businesses can save up

20:16

to 20% versus Verizon and

20:19

AT&T. Visit your neighborhood

20:21

store or t-mobile.com to switch. Plan

20:23

savings with T-Mobile Third Line free

20:25

on essentials via monthly bill credits

20:27

versus comparable available plans. Plan features

20:30

may vary. Credits stop if you cancel or

20:32

change plans. American History Tellers

20:34

is sponsored by Audible. Listen

20:37

to a new bold take on George Orwell's

20:39

classic 1984 on Audible, starring

20:42

an epic cast with Andrew Garfield,

20:44

Cynthia Erivo, Andrew Scott, and featuring

20:46

Tom Hardy as Big Brother. Plus,

20:49

a haunting original score by Matthew Bellamy

20:51

and Ilan Ishkari that takes this thrilling

20:53

production to the next level. Experience

20:55

an immersive listening experience like nothing

20:57

you've heard before. A chilling tale

20:59

of constant surveillance, thought police, and

21:02

rebellion, now more relevant than ever.

21:04

Big Brother is watching and listening.

21:06

Hear why those who control the past control

21:09

the future. Listen to George Orwell's 1984 on

21:11

Audible now. Go

21:14

to audible.com/big brother. The

21:19

election of Abraham Lincoln in November

21:21

1860 brought long-simmering tensions over slavery to a

21:24

boil. Within a month, South Carolina seceded from the Union,

21:26

and other southern states soon followed. Lincoln

21:29

became the target of vicious attacks in the press. Critics

21:32

and politicians saw him as a threat to their enslaved

21:34

workforce and their economic power. But

21:38

as a lifelong abolitionist, Alan Pinkerton was a

21:40

strong supporter of the American Revolution. So

21:43

when he discovered that in Baltimore there were

21:45

threats to Lincoln's safety, Pinkerton

21:47

sent his best agents and launched an investigation,

21:50

hoping to infiltrate radical organizations rumored

21:53

to be plotting to kill Lincoln ahead of his inauguration in

21:55

March. Pinkerton

22:01

also went undercover himself, posing as

22:03

a stockbroker from Georgia named John

22:05

Hutchinson. In this role, he

22:08

befriended members of a secret rebel group

22:10

whose leader, Cipriano Farandini, told Pinkerton of

22:12

their plot to kill Lincoln. Armed

22:15

with details about the would-be assassin scheme,

22:17

Pinkerton came up with a plan to

22:19

allow Lincoln to complete his whistle-stop tour,

22:21

but with extra precautions as he passed

22:24

through Baltimore. Pinkerton then assigned

22:26

Kate Warren to pose as a southern bell

22:28

named Mrs. Barkley, and on the night of

22:30

February 23, she and

22:33

Pinkerton traveled by train with Lincoln

22:35

from Philadelphia into Baltimore. There

22:37

they had to transfer it to another train,

22:39

and Pinkerton had arranged for Lincoln to be

22:41

disguised as an elderly invalid, wearing a large

22:44

overcoat and a wool cap instead of his

22:46

trademark top hat. Warren posed

22:48

as his caretaker and sister, and calling

22:50

the president brother, she and Pinkerton led

22:52

Lincoln across a few blocks of downtown

22:54

Baltimore to the train that would carry

22:56

him to Washington. Lincoln

22:58

traveled the rest of the way in a private room

23:01

with the shades drawn to prevent anyone from seeing him.

23:04

And finally, at 6 a.m. on February 24, Lincoln

23:07

reached D.C. safely. Pinkerton

23:09

confirmed the operation's success via telegram, using

23:11

the code names assigned to both him

23:14

and the president. Plums have

23:16

not. Not

23:21

long after Pinkerton safely shepherded the

23:23

president to his inauguration, the United

23:25

States descended into civil war. In

23:28

April of 1861, Pinkerton wrote to

23:30

Lincoln, offering his services, stating, I am at

23:32

your command. Lincoln responded by

23:34

inviting Pinkerton to come to D.C. to meet

23:36

with his cabinet. Soon after

23:39

that meeting, Pinkerton received a letter from

23:41

his friend in Illinois, the railroad executive

23:43

George McClellan, who Lincoln had named commander

23:45

of the U.S. Army in Ohio. McClellan

23:48

asked Pinkerton to join him and create

23:50

a military intelligence unit in Cincinnati. The

23:53

goal was for Pinkerton and his agents to

23:55

gather information on rebel troop sizes and plans,

23:57

which they'd deliver to McClellan and his generals.

24:00

Knowing the size and position of

24:02

rebel troops was essential to McClellan's

24:04

military decision-making, and McClellan instructed

24:07

Pinkerton to travel behind enemy lines and

24:09

gather intelligence on roads, bridges, and a

24:11

general feeling of the people residing in

24:13

the South. And when

24:15

McClellan was promoted that summer to lead the

24:18

larger Army of the Potomac, he named Pinkerton

24:20

the head of his secret service. Pinkerton's

24:23

detectives, including Warren and other female

24:25

operatives, began conducting undercover operations, risking

24:27

their lives to infiltrate rebel groups

24:30

and at times traveling deep into

24:32

Confederate territory. At one

24:35

point, Pinkerton posed as a Confederate

24:37

soldier, calling himself Major E.J. Allen.

24:39

He traveled alone on horseback, but after being

24:42

recognized in Memphis, he was forced to

24:44

flee and barely escape with his life.

24:47

Meanwhile, the South had its own spies,

24:49

and as Pinkerton reported to Lincoln, they

24:52

were invading the North like locusts. Among

24:55

the Confederacy's spy ring in Washington,

24:57

D.C., was a beautiful widow's socialite

24:59

known as the Wild Rose. Imagine

25:05

it's August 23rd, 1861. You're

25:09

walking up the steps to the front porch

25:11

of your home in Washington, D.C., two blocks

25:13

north of the White House. You

25:15

had hope to go on a bit of a

25:17

stroll and deliver a secret message to another spy

25:19

for the Confederacy, but two men

25:21

on the street aroused your suspicion, so you abandoned

25:23

your mission and made your way back to your

25:26

brick home on K Street. You're

25:28

about to open the front door when you hear

25:30

footsteps and turn to see the same

25:32

two men coming up the steps behind you. You

25:35

recognize one of them, Detective Allen

25:37

Pinkerton. You decide to confront them. Who

25:39

are you and what are you doing here? The

25:42

man you recognize as Pinkerton speaks

25:44

up. On Major E.J. Allen with

25:46

Union Army, ma'am, please step inside.

25:49

You know he's lying. By now, half the

25:51

city knows what Pinkerton looks like, and

25:53

he works for that Yankee scoundrel, General

25:55

McClellan. I will not step inside except

25:57

by myself. You have no business here.

26:00

Doesn't your government have better things to do

26:02

than bother defenseless women? We're here to search

26:04

your house, now move aside. By whose

26:06

authority? Painters and

26:08

ignores you. Nods to the

26:10

other man who grabs your arms and pushes you inside.

26:14

You stumble into the parlor, trying to pull free

26:16

of the man's grasp. Your mind

26:18

races. The house is full of

26:20

evidence of your spying. You try to

26:22

remember all the places you've hidden letters,

26:24

messages, and secret codes. You

26:26

need to find a way to get into your

26:29

bedroom alone. Oh, get your hands off me. This

26:31

is outrageous. You have no right. Madam, we've been

26:33

watching you, and we know who you've been meeting

26:35

with. We intend to find the proof we need

26:37

to lock you away for aiding and abetting the

26:39

enemies of the union. Suddenly,

26:41

the door flings open, and four more men

26:43

and a woman enter. Pinkerton begins

26:46

barking orders. All right, check everything. Under

26:48

the beds and furniture, inside books, picture

26:50

frames, all of it. You

26:52

decide you have to take a different tack. Would you

26:55

at least allow me to go upstairs and change my

26:57

dress? It's stifling hot in here, and

26:59

if I don't loosen this corset, I'm afraid I'm

27:01

going to faint. All right, very

27:03

well, but I'll come with you. Let's be quick

27:05

about it. Pinkerton leads

27:07

you up to your bedroom, as the others

27:09

ransack your home. In your room,

27:11

you shut the door and rush to your dresser, opening

27:14

the secret compartment where you've hidden maps,

27:17

letters, and notes on McClellan's army. You

27:20

quickly tear the notes and letters to pieces

27:22

and throw them into your unlit stove, mixing

27:24

them with the ashes and hoping they won't be

27:26

discovered. That's about time

27:29

to have changed. Now open up. If

27:34

you strip off your dress and open the door,

27:36

giving Pinkerton a glimpse of you in your underclothes,

27:38

hope it will distract him, and he won't

27:41

discover the shredded secret documents in the stove

27:43

or any other evidence of your defeat. In

27:49

August of 1861, after conducting

27:51

weeks of surveillance outside the home

27:53

of Rose O'Neill Greenhow, Alan Pinkerton

27:55

rested her on suspicion of spying

27:57

for the Confederacy. After a

28:00

raid on her home, Greenhow was held

28:02

under house arrest and charged with sending

28:04

vital information about Union troop movements to

28:06

Southern generals. In their raid,

28:08

Pinkers and agents had found plenty of evidence to

28:10

build a case against her. Secret

28:13

letters, maps, a small diary, and

28:15

unburned scraps found in her bedroom

28:17

stove. All of this proved

28:19

that Greenhow had been providing intelligence to the

28:22

Confederacy. So too did love

28:24

letters to Greenhow from Southern sympathizers

28:26

and Congress, and these findings

28:28

led to others subsequent arrests of spies

28:30

and abettors. Newspapers across

28:33

the country carried the high profile

28:35

arrest of Rose Greenhow and other

28:37

conspirators, earning Pinkerton more publicity and

28:39

further bolstering his agency's status. But

28:42

starting in late 1861, these

28:45

successes turned to setbacks, including

28:47

the loss of one of Pinkerton's favorite agents. Timothy

28:50

Webster was a British-born spy who had

28:52

helped Pinkerton uncover the plot on Lincoln's

28:54

life. Later, in 1861, Webster posed

28:58

as a Confederate sympathizer and infiltrated the

29:00

Knights of Liberty, a secret group in

29:02

Baltimore that was planning an attack on

29:04

the Capitol. When Webster learned of

29:06

the plot, he reported it to Pinkerton, who

29:08

raided the group on Thanksgiving night. Pinkerton

29:11

even arrested Webster to help maintain

29:13

Webster's cover. Later, in 1862,

29:15

Webster and Haddie Lawton,

29:18

one of Kate Warren's recruits, were working

29:20

undercover in Richmond, Virginia, posing as husband

29:22

and wife. Webster had managed

29:24

to become a mail courier for the Confederate

29:26

Secretary of War, Judah Benjamin. He

29:29

was entrusted with delivering secret messages

29:31

from Benjamin to Southern sympathizers in

29:33

Washington. But before delivering these letters,

29:36

Webster would read them and report his findings to

29:38

Pinkerton. But just as this

29:40

scheme was beginning to bear fruit, Webster

29:42

fell ill. Pinkerton sent two

29:44

other agents, Price Lewis and John Scully,

29:47

to check in on Webster. On

29:49

February 26, 1862, Lewis and Scully visited Webster

29:53

at his Richmond Hotel. But

29:55

they were recognized by a Confederate detective

29:57

and arrested and charged with espionage. In

30:00

April Lewis confessed to his captors that he

30:02

was a Pinkerton agent which led to charges

30:05

against Webster who was sentenced to death. Webster

30:08

was hanged by the Confederates on April 28th, 1862.

30:12

Haddie Lawton and the two other Pinkertons

30:14

were imprisoned for months, but their

30:16

executions were delayed and they would eventually

30:18

be released in a prisoner exchange. Webster's

30:25

death was a personal blow to Pinkerton,

30:27

but also a strategic blow to the

30:29

Union Army. Webster had not

30:31

yet obtained sufficient information on Confederate

30:33

troops, nor had he managed

30:35

to recruit Union sympathizers to provide

30:37

such intelligence. Even worse, some

30:40

of the preliminary information Webster had been

30:42

sending Pinkerton turned out to be inaccurate.

30:45

One of Webster's reports, sent shortly before

30:47

his arrest, estimated that there

30:49

were 116,000 Confederate

30:51

troops outside Richmond. In

30:53

fact, there were roughly 75,000. And

30:56

this meant Pinkerton's friend and head of the

30:58

Union Army George McClellan often had an unclear

31:01

picture of what his army was up against.

31:04

And McClellan's lack of clarity on his

31:06

enemy's strength often led him to delay

31:08

military action. McClellan soon

31:11

developed a reputation for hesitating when

31:13

he suspected his men were outnumbered,

31:15

and this indecisiveness created a rift

31:17

between him and President Lincoln. By

31:19

early 1862, Lincoln was worried that

31:22

McClellan was too cautious. Lincoln once

31:24

said in frustration, if General

31:26

McClellan does not want to use the army, I

31:28

would like to borrow it for a time. So

31:31

on March 11th, 1862, Lincoln removed McClellan

31:33

as general in chief, but allowed him

31:35

to remain head of the Army of

31:38

the Potomac. A week later,

31:40

McClellan led 120,000 Union troops on a

31:42

planned assault on the southern capital of

31:45

Richmond. But at the city

31:47

of Yorktown, McClellan once again slowed

31:49

his advance, believing an overwhelming force

31:51

of Confederate troops were ahead. Lincoln

31:54

prodded his general by telegraph to break

31:56

the enemy line, and implored him with

31:58

an urgent order you must... act, but

32:01

McClellan again waited. In

32:03

truth, there were fewer than 10,000 rebel troops at

32:06

Yorktown, but McClellan's hesitation gave

32:08

Confederate generals time enough to

32:10

send reinforcements and meet McClellan's

32:12

stalled army. McClellan's failure

32:14

to act at Yorktown and elsewhere stemmed

32:17

partly from his reliance on estimates of

32:19

troop size that he had been receiving

32:21

from Pinkerton's spies. But

32:23

by summer of 1862, President Lincoln had

32:25

enough. McClellan's days as the head of

32:27

the Army of the Potomac were numbered.

32:30

For Pinkerton, this was a troubling turn of event.

32:33

The U.S. War Department had become the primary

32:35

employer of his agents. With

32:37

McClellan's job in jeopardy, Pinkerton's income and

32:40

his reputation as the nation's top spy

32:42

were also on the line. And

32:44

soon, Pinkerton's loyalty to the president and

32:47

the northern cause would face a decisive

32:49

test. Green

32:57

History Tellers is sponsored by Z-Biotics. To

33:00

paraphrase the classic movie Lethal Weapon, I'm

33:02

getting too old for this business, and

33:04

I know I'm not the only one.

33:06

With every passing year you're going to

33:09

mutter more and more often, I just

33:11

can't do it like I used to.

33:13

Like a fun evening out. Mornings after

33:16

are getting rougher and rougher, but there

33:18

might be some relief with Z-Bionics's pre-alcohol

33:20

probiotic drink, the world's first genetically engineered

33:22

probiotic. To tackle your rough mornings after

33:25

drinking, Z-Bionics creates an enzyme that breaks

33:27

down a toxic by-product produced in the

33:29

gut when you drink alcohol. It's this

33:31

by-product, not dehydration, that's to blame for

33:33

your rough next day. I'm

33:35

getting too old for this, it's not

33:37

a mantra I want to keep, so

33:39

just make Z-Biotic your first drink of

33:41

the night. Drink responsibly and you'll feel

33:43

your best tomorrow. Go to z-biotics.com/tellers to

33:46

get 15% off your first

33:48

order when you use tellers at checkout. Z-Biotics

33:50

is even backed with a 100% money-back

33:52

guarantee if you're unsatisfied for any reason.

33:55

So head to z-biotics.com/tellers and use code

33:57

tellers at checkout for 15% off your

33:59

first 15% off. On

34:07

September 22, 1862,

34:10

Abraham Lincoln issued a preliminary draft

34:12

of his Emancipation Proclamation. This

34:15

executive order gave notice to the

34:17

South that after January 1 of

34:19

the coming year, millions of African

34:21

Americans enslaved in Confederate states would

34:23

be forever free. Pinkerton

34:25

had been a vocal and active abolitionist

34:27

and he and his wife opened their

34:29

home to people escaping slavery as a

34:31

stop on the Underground Railroad. So news

34:34

of Lincoln's proclamation thrilled him, but

34:36

his loyalty to his friend McClellan now put

34:38

him at odds with the president. McClellan

34:41

had recently scored a strategic victory at

34:43

the bloody Battle of Antietam, which ended

34:45

with Confederate General Robert E. Lee's troops

34:47

in retreat. But Lincoln had

34:50

had enough of his overly cautious and

34:52

impertinent general. In November, Lincoln

34:54

relieved McClellan of command. But

34:57

in support of McClellan, Alan Pinkerton resigned

34:59

from his Secret Service duties. He

35:02

and his agents continued to work for the War Department

35:04

throughout the rest of the war. But

35:07

Pinkerton returned to Chicago, setting his sights

35:09

on getting back to what his agency

35:11

did best, catching thieves. Meanwhile

35:13

Pinkerton's departure from military service coincided

35:16

with a rising star of Lafayette

35:18

Baker, a Union spy who

35:20

ran a rival agency, the National Detective

35:23

Bureau. In the years

35:25

to come, both Pinkerton and Baker would

35:27

take credit for having created the U.S.

35:29

Secret Service. In reality, it

35:31

was Lincoln's doing. Shortly

35:33

after Lee surrendered to grant at Appomattox,

35:35

Lincoln approved legislation creating the Secret Service

35:38

as a federal agency to combat counterfeiters

35:40

and signed the agency into existence on

35:42

April 14, 1865. Later

35:46

that very night, Lincoln was assassinated.

35:50

Pinkerton was in New Orleans when he got the news. He

35:52

immediately wrote to the War Department, expressing his

35:54

regret that he wasn't able to protect Lincoln

35:56

as he had in February of 1861. He

36:00

noted that had he been there with Lincoln, I

36:02

might have been able to arrest it. And

36:05

by 1866, Pinkerton fully put his

36:07

Civil War service behind him. He

36:10

called his agents back from Baltimore and

36:12

Washington and refocused their attention on the

36:14

West. He also collected Timothy

36:16

Webster's body from Richmond and had his

36:19

friend and agent buried in Chicago. With

36:22

trains back in business after the

36:24

war and with a transcontinental railroad

36:26

connection nearing completion, Pinkerton was soon

36:28

busier than ever chasing outlaws. And

36:31

by this time, his sons, William and Robert

36:33

had joined the growing agency. Their

36:36

new nemesis was a murderous gang

36:38

of brothers from Indiana who began

36:40

terrorizing banks, trains, post offices and

36:43

other businesses throughout the Midwest. Imagine

36:50

it's late evening in early October 1866. You're

36:54

a courier for the Addams Express

36:56

Company, onboard an Ohio and Mississippi

36:58

railroad train as it departs Seymour,

37:00

Indiana. You're glad to have

37:02

Seymour behind you. It's a notorious

37:04

town full of outlaws that a newsman

37:07

recently called a carnival of crime. Seymour

37:09

Times even posted a notice in the

37:12

paper warning visitors to be wary of

37:14

thieves and assassins. So it's not

37:16

a comfortable place for a man like you, one

37:19

who's responsible for two lock safes

37:21

full of nearly $50,000 in cash,

37:23

gold and bonds. So

37:25

as the train picks up speed, you heave a

37:27

sigh of relief. But just

37:30

a few miles out of town,

37:32

someone starts banging on the lock

37:34

door of your express car, yelling

37:37

for you to open up. No,

37:39

no, go away. This is a

37:41

private car. No passengers allowed. You

37:44

realize whoever is banging on the door are

37:46

not lost passengers. No, don't try.

37:48

I'm warning you. I'm armed. Suddenly the

37:51

door crashes inward and you

37:55

wish you actually had a firearm. You're

37:57

facing three masked men, one of

37:59

whom and a pistol at your head. Hey

38:01

look, we ain't your passenger son, we're your

38:04

worst nightmare. Now unlock these safes. What

38:06

safes? Look, I don't know. Man

38:08

slaps you across the face. He's

38:10

clearly angry. Don't waste my time. I know there

38:12

are two safes on board. Now where are the

38:15

keys? Here, here are the

38:17

keys for the small safe, but I don't have

38:19

the key for the bigger one, I swear. Company

38:21

protocol. Company what? Man slugs

38:23

you in the face and you drop to the floor. Then

38:26

he kicks you in the stomach. Come on boys, we'll

38:28

take the damn safes with us. Ready? Robbers

38:31

drag the two safes to the open door

38:33

and heave them out into the night. One

38:36

of the men pulls the rope for the emergency belt

38:38

and the engineer starts to bring the train to a

38:40

stop. Now you just stay on the ground

38:42

till we're going here. Tell your

38:44

boss to leave you to seize next time. Maybe

38:47

then you won't get hurt. You stay

38:49

curled up on the floor as the men escape. Then

38:52

you hear the sound of gunfire. They're

38:54

probably trying to shoot open the big safe, but

38:56

you know bullets won't do a thing. Maybe

38:59

they'll leave it behind, happy with the $15,000

39:01

from the small safe. Either

39:04

way, you'll probably get fired once your

39:06

boss learns you've just been robbed. In

39:13

the early years after the civil war, the

39:15

Pinkerton Detective Agency found itself in high demand.

39:18

Post-war crimes soared, especially along

39:20

the railroads that continued to

39:22

expand westward. Trains carrying

39:24

passengers, mail and money throughout remote

39:27

farmlands at 10 miles an hour

39:29

made easy targets for gangs on

39:31

horseback. The quickly infamous

39:33

Reno Brothers gang were the obvious suspects

39:35

in the Adams Express robbery of 1866

39:38

outside Seymour, Indiana. One

39:40

witness stepped forward to identify two of the Reno

39:43

brothers who had been seen on the train. But

39:45

after that witness was shot and

39:47

killed, others refused to testify and

39:49

charges were dropped. The

39:51

Reno Brothers gang was considered the

39:53

nation's first organized band of train

39:55

robbers. John, Frank, Bill and

39:58

Simi and Reno were petty crooks. as

40:00

teens, but their crimes escalated after

40:02

the war when they terrorized towns

40:05

throughout southern Indiana, robbing banks, merchants,

40:07

and trains. Alan Pinkerton

40:09

called them the worst gang of scoundrels

40:11

in the country. They once threw

40:13

an Adams Express manager off a moving

40:15

train, killing the man. So

40:18

Pinkerton pledged to stop them, insisting that

40:20

he was the worst enemy they've got.

40:23

But it would take years to bring them down, and

40:25

would nearly cost Pinkerton his

40:27

own life. In 1867, one of

40:30

Pinkerton's agents managed to infiltrate the Reno

40:32

gang. Using a suit on

40:34

them, Dick Winscott posed as a bartender at

40:36

the Reno's favorite saloon in Seymour, Indiana. Winscott

40:39

gathered enough information for Pinkerton to arrest

40:41

John Reno, who was convicted of robbery

40:43

in 1868. Pinkerton's

40:46

older son, William, then captured a few

40:48

more gang members in Iowa, but they

40:50

all escaped from jail. Others

40:52

of the gang were captured and lynched

40:54

by vigilante mobs or died in shootouts.

40:57

But when Alan Pinkerton learned that the

40:59

gang's leader, Frank Reno, was holed up

41:01

in Windsor, Canada, he traveled there to

41:03

make the arrest himself. He

41:05

raided Reno's hideout and arrested four gang members.

41:08

Unable to extradite the men, though, Pinkerton was

41:11

returning to Detroit when a gunman tried to

41:13

kill him. Luckily, the man's

41:15

gun failed to fire, and Pinkerton

41:17

tackled and held him until police

41:19

could arrive. Pinkerton speculated that this

41:21

man was hired by a rival

41:23

detective agency or possibly the Reno's

41:25

themselves. But although Pinkerton

41:27

escaped this episode with his life, his

41:29

agency was about to experience a great

41:31

loss. In late 1867, Pinkerton's top agent,

41:35

Kate Warren, fell sick with tuberculosis.

41:38

Pinkerton was by her side when she died in

41:40

her sleep in January of 1868. She

41:43

was only 35. Pinkerton had

41:45

her buried in Chicago's Graceland Cemetery

41:48

beside fellow agent Timothy Webster. He

41:50

later said, Miss Warren never let me

41:53

down and called her brilliant, intelligent and

41:55

accomplished. The Philadelphia Press praised

41:57

her as a fearless, pure and devoted

41:59

woman. who proved that females are useful in

42:01

the sphere to which the wants of society have

42:03

long been loathed to assign them. But

42:06

that was not the only loss Pinkerton was to suffer

42:08

that year. Only months later, his

42:10

brother Robert died. Pinkerton wrote

42:12

in a telegram, The old

42:14

group is slowly dying off. Then,

42:18

in 1869, bad luck came for him

42:20

when the fifty-year-old Pinkerton suffered a debilitating

42:23

stroke. He managed to recover, walking

42:25

miles every day and returning to working

42:27

at his desk. But he would never

42:29

quite be the same. From that point onward,

42:31

he walked with a limp and had difficulty

42:33

speaking. And even then, tragedy

42:35

was not done with him. On October

42:37

8, 1871, a fire

42:40

broke out on the west side of Chicago

42:42

and spread to the central business district. Pinkerton's

42:45

office was destroyed. He was

42:47

a meticulous record-keeper and had amassed thousands

42:49

of case files. The fire burned them

42:51

all. The fire tribune summed

42:53

up the loss by declaring, Most

42:56

complete and extensive records of criminal

42:58

history in America destroyed. But

43:00

despite this devastating loss, Pinkerton offered

43:02

to help Chicago police patrol the

43:04

streets and prevent looting after the

43:06

fire. He even posted a

43:08

notice in the papers declaring that while his

43:11

agents weren't authorized to arrest potential thieves, they

43:13

would still shoot to kill. Then,

43:16

as the city recovered from the fire,

43:18

Pinkerton began rebuilding his office. He

43:21

wrote in a letter, I will never be

43:23

beaten. Not all the furies in hell will

43:25

stop me from rebuilding immediately. By

43:27

1872, Pinkerton and his agency had

43:30

fully recovered and were back to chasing down

43:32

bank and train robbers. Pinkerton had

43:35

made his name on such cases, but

43:37

soon he'd faced his most elusive foe

43:39

yet, the outlaw Jesse James. From

43:43

Wandereed, this is episode one of our

43:45

series on the Pinkerton Detective Agency for

43:47

American History Tellers. In The

43:49

next episode, Alan Pinkerton's son begin to

43:52

take more control of the agency and

43:54

expand further. But These new ventures strain

43:56

the relationship between father and sons. The

43:58

Agency begins to draw. Criticism from

44:00

the public. Wonder.

44:06

He plus subscribers can binge American

44:08

history tellers early and and free

44:10

right now. Joined. One replies in

44:12

the Wonder Iap or on Apple Podcasts and

44:14

if you enjoy American History tellers be sure

44:17

to give us a five star rating and

44:19

leave review. I read every one of them.

44:21

I also have to other Wonder a podcast

44:24

you might like American Scandal and Business Movers

44:26

Follow American History Tellers on the Wonder Yeah,

44:28

Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts

44:30

you can be and all episodes of

44:32

American History Tellers early and and free right

44:35

now by joining Wonder He plus in the

44:37

Wonder He or Apple Podcasts and before you

44:39

go tell us about yourself by completing. A

44:42

short survey of wonder.com/service and to

44:44

find out more about me including

44:47

my other podcasts, go to: Not

44:49

That Lindsey graham.com That's Not That

44:51

Lindsey Graham Doctor. If

44:57

you'd like to learn more about

44:59

the Pinkerton's we recommend see our

45:01

of Peril I Daniel Stash House

45:03

and Liar Temper A Soldier Spy

45:05

by Karen and American History Tellers

45:07

is hosted edited and produced by

45:09

Need Lindsey Graham for Airship Audio

45:11

editing by Chris Improv sound assigned

45:14

by Mali both music I went

45:16

to great. This episode is written

45:18

by Neil Samsung edited by Doyle

45:20

Moink Produced by only the reasons

45:22

or production coordinator as As He

45:24

Whalen managing producer Medecins Senior. Managing

45:26

producer Ryan More senior producer

45:28

Any Herman and executive producers are

45:31

Gen Our veterans Marshall Louis

45:33

for wondering. Doctoral.

45:41

To was like no other course to

45:43

for twenty foot speed waste. Such

45:46

stress driver go for maximum acceleration

45:48

of to start this short straight

45:50

away from zero to seventy for

45:52

the first. what

45:54

about the robots know back such

45:56

your phone explosive reverse point four hundred

45:59

twenty skies Zero G's in total

46:01

weightlessness. 420 feet of

46:03

straight up speed. Let's get it. Top

46:05

Thrill II, the world's tallest and fastest

46:07

triple launch strata coaster. Get your tickets

46:09

at cedarpoint.com.

Unlock more with Podchaser Pro

  • Audience Insights
  • Contact Information
  • Demographics
  • Charts
  • Sponsor History
  • and More!
Pro Features