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When it comes to celebrity feuds, the stakes

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couldn't be higher. Because if you lose, you'll

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wind up as the number one trending topic on Twitter,

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or worse, in court. Wondry's

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new podcast, Dis & Tell, is hosted

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by comedians Sydney Battle and Matt Bellassai.

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Each episode of Dis & Tell explores

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one of pop culture's most iconic celebrity

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feuds, and then unpacks what our obsession

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with them says about us. The first season

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is packed with some messy pop culture drama,

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like the conflict between Black China and the

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Kardashians. It starts with China

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befriending Kim, and then China's fiancé,

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Tyga, leaving her for Kylie. But that

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rivalry is soon followed by an all-out

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war with the entire Kardashian-Jenner

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clan, involving physical fights, revenge

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porn, and multiple lawsuits, with more

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than $100 million on the line. You've

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seen the headlines, and now you'll get the

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whole story. You're about to hear a preview

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of Dis & Tell. While you're listening,

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follow Dis & Tell wherever you get your

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podcasts.

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Let's journey back to 2010 BK. And

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when I say BK, I mean before Kardashians.

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Sure. That's how the calendars work

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in that household. I know it. Well,

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we're on the set of Kanye West's

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Monster music video, and there are

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some huge names involved in this. Kanye,

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obviously, but also Jay-Z,

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Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj, and

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then there's

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this new girl on the block, Black

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China. Matt, what do you know about

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her? I'm embarrassed to say I don't

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really know that much about Black China. Like,

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genuinely, she is kind of

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a mystery to me.

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I'm afraid to go on the record by saying, like,

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I know part of her thing is that she

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kind of looks like Nicki Minaj.

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The reason she was actually there was

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because she was Nicki Minaj's body double,

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but we'll get into that. So it's not

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just me being like, these two

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women of color look very... We

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are still going to cancel you. Thank you. We

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are going to come for you with pitchforks. I deserve

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it. But that's why you're here,

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to learn a little more about Black

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China, or as she is also known,

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Angela White. She was raised by a

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single mom in Washington, D.C., and

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she's worked all her life to support herself

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and her mother. In high school, she did

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that by working in fast food restaurants.

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And then when she went to college in Miami, she started

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stripping to pay her tuition. And

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as a side note, she was studying fashion merchandising

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and business management, which I feel helped

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her a lot down the line. Yeah, an entrepreneur.

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Yes, in the making.

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But while dancing,

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she crosses paths with Drake. Yes,

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champagne poppy himself. I

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know that's never a good sign. Okay,

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I was about to make a joke about that, but in this specific

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instance, it does end up helping her. Because

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she's dancing at the club, and he's apparently so

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taken with her that he gives her a shout

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out in his song, Miss Me. Call

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up King of Diamonds and tell Shana it be

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worth the flight. I'll be at my table stacking

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dollars to the perfect height. Everything

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I know about Drake, I'm like, I feel

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like getting mentioned in a Drake song is

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some type of omen.

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Usually you have to be like under 21

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for that to happen. But

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all right, so she's like climbing

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up

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the social ranks, I guess.

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It's so funny, I've heard that song so many times,

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and it wasn't until I started looking

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into Black China that I even realized

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that was about her. But that

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shout out from Drake is what helped her get on

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to Kanye's set. I know he goes

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by Ye now, but I am not

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going to do that for him. So we will

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be calling him Kanye.

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Anyways, Black China's got plenty

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of street cred, but she hasn't fully broken

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through in terms of like real celebrity.

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As I said, she's there to be Nicki

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Minaj's body double. She's not even a featured

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performer, and

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this is the biggest. that she

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has ever been on. Wait, she's on

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set just as Nicki

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Minaj's body double? Mm-hmm. So

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she's not there performing in

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the video as Black China?

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No, but that doesn't matter

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because this is a huge turning point

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for China. She always

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had big goals, but this is a chance to

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really make a name for herself and

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break into a new echelon of fame,

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get into her video vixen bag.

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Is that the name

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of a Black China song? No, that's

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like a term for the hot girls in videos.

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Wow. Video vixens.

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Right. So they're filming,

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doing their thing, and China's getting

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noticed. She's good at what she does and

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she knows how to work her angles.

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So much so that she ends up getting

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cast in another music video, this

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time for the rapper Tyga. And

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the song is Rack City.

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Here, let me just play you a little bit.

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Rack, rack, rack, city, bitch,

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city, bitch, rack, rack, rack, city,

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bitch, city, bitch. What's that

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on that beat? I love when Mustard

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is on that beat.

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I love

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Mustard on a beat. I do

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remember this song very well. This was like

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in my college days, I feel like. Mm-hmm.

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And this time, China

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is not a body double. She plays

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Tyga's girlfriend in the music video. We

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don't know a whole lot about how filming

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goes, but apparently Tyga and China

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really hit it off because pretty soon, life

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is imitating art. And by December 2011,

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she and Tyga are dating in real life.

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Wow. Yes. Music

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video to dating in record time.

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The perfect pipeline.

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And then three really big things happen

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in quick succession. One,

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China gets pregnant, like right

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away. Two, nine

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months later, she gives birth to their son

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and they name him King Cairo. And

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then three, at some point,

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At this point, China and Tyga get

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engaged. Wow. Okay. So

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we're moving very quickly. Yes,

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but they're one big happy family.

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Everything is perfect, right? Everything's

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coming up black China, you know? She's got

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her man, a beautiful baby boy,

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and he is truly beautiful. And my family

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is notoriously judgmental of babies.

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Some babies aren't. We don't have the

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time to get into it, but she's only just

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dipped her toe into Hollywood. And once she fully

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dives in, she's going to get swept up

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in the tidal wave that is America's most

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famous family, the

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Kardashians. Oh

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no. It's like that gif.

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It's like, you're in danger, girl.

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Oda Mae Brown, come save us.

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