In this conversation, We discuss saddle hunting and the development of Brandon's pocket climbing stick. They talk about the benefits of saddle hunting, such as increased mobility and efficiency, and the compact size of the pocket climbing stick. They also discuss the growth of saddle hunting in recent years and the various options and customization available for saddle setups. They emphasize the importance of safety and recommend trying out different saddles before making a purchase. Saddle hunting offers a safe and versatile system for climbing trees. The use of climbing sticks has progressed the most in the past 15 years, with advancements in compactness and lightness. Saddle hunting provides advantages in shooting capabilities, mobility, and adaptability to different hunting situations. It is particularly beneficial for hunting on public land or in areas where stand setups may need to be changed frequently. The system requires practice and customization to individual preferences. Saddle hunting also offers the advantage of not leaving equipment out in the field, reducing the risk of theft or tampering.