We're joined by musician Dan Boeckner (Wolf Parade, Divine Fits, Handsome Furs, Operators, Arcade Fire) to chat about his life and career in music. We touch on everything from terrible tour stews, leveling up to arena shows, burning CD-Rs in hotel rooms, telemarketing, too much fog machine and more. We also spend a good deal of time on the constantly shifting landscape of online and digital music distribution, how it's affected his career, and why it's so difficult to buy a simple dang .WAV file. Finally, Dan teases some upcoming projects that the Boeckner! heads will really enjoy.

Dan's back on social media, please follow him so he can promote his stuff:Twitter: @d_boecknerInsta: @boec_kner

Also, if you're not listening to Pretty Dim Wonder, the narrative fiction comedy podcast Dan does with Charles from Episode 1, you absolutely should. I think most And Intro heads would get a kick out of it: https://pod.link/1618321478