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Our perception. Of
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reality even where we realize that
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my. There are
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other humans in the world
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and that all of their.
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Viewpoints: Are vantage points
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in which they experience life. Or
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as. Real
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seeming as ours. We.
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Still can't get out of
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the illusion that we feel
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like ours is somehow the
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most important and relative and
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somehow the fullest view of
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what's quote unquote happening. What
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an amazing magic trick that the
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mind plays on itself. Is
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a good tool. It's good
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to keeps us focus to
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keeps us ah surviving. Ultimately
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muslims with keep thinking network
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sort of important. Than
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that way, we'll keep trying to be
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successful and to eat food and to
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procreate and all that type of things
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that humans tend to do. and that's
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a fun. A fun illusion
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our to play with. The also a out a
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little bit about something about that in my my
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new book that will be out in it's like
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the one of the interesting reasons why she liked
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as because we are. Him. Mammals
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that move through three dimensional space.
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To. Have eyes and the front of our
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heads and like everywhere that we take our
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bodies. With. Our feet of course.
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They everything. Goes is. Is.
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Responding to us because we're
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entering environments. And.
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Looking at other things as we enter
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and so those things look at us
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and etc. etc. And
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so because of that we in like if
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there's a if hurt a fly buzzing around
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it comes over by you are thinking that
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flies coming to me cetera and so because
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we're looking out of the front of our
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faces. And. Our perception is
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moving forward and outwards. We.
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Naturally feel like the rest of the
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world. is aimed
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specifically at us because
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we are perceiving a spotlight of the rest
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of the world. And
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so it gives us the illusion that everything is
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kind of focused on us, that we are the
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center of the story. Whenever
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in truth, we're all background characters, which
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is a very liberating thing to understand.
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That's one of the, I think, the better
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parts about getting older and maybe it's
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less about me
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getting older and more about me just
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getting over myself a little bit because,
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or a lot bit. Because
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now I really don't think I'm
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special. I
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think I'm less special. I think
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I'm less than special. I
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really, really do. I'm
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so un-charmed
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by my own personality
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that it's really,
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it's great. You know, it's great. It's
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funny. I mean, whenever, you know, when I was
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younger, I used to feel
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like something just special. I
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felt like I was this,
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you know, unique recipe of smartness
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and width and
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depth and
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philosophical understanding. And
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yeah, I just, time went on and the more
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like I let go of the
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structure in the fabric of my
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perceived identity, the
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more that that just kind of like
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fell away. And yeah,
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it's interesting to just kind of like keep
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letting that feeling go, that feeling
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of like specialness. And
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there was also like, you know, if you
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like hanging out with a table of people
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And you have a couple of beers or whatever. And
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you're talking in the conversation slung. whenever.
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I was younger, I used to always
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see a like yeah, whatever. I'm Mike.
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I'm not normally super talkative. But
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if I'm in the situation like that our
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own kind of fled it. I love the
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and in the whole table becomes. Entertained.
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Billie Me. And I
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would notice like yaks people really
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like listen to me. And
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my favourite talk and
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so. I get
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the oh that was some some admirable quality
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isn't like that anyone to hit me like
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ice away second. Perhaps. Sat
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there just listening because I'm talking.
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Not. Because I'm captivating. I
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thought I was captivating because I'd had
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couple beers. You
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know, So. Yeah,
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really liberating. Really great to let
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go of that stuff for me
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Anyway, the stop filming special and
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to just start ceiling lights. On.
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As I discontinued, I guess maturing
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continued on the past. Ah,
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letting go of that. Sense
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of singularity. Ultimately. Ultimately,
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site. Creating
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a kind of of a boundary between
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you and other people. You.
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Know it's like the idea that. You're.
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Somehow. Different
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than everyone else. In Crete
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second otherness increases Censor fight. He
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ultimately it's a self delusion. Yeah.
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Because you're thinking that like. Ah,
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Your. Ego is more finely polish
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the negroes of others. And
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it's a weird trap door that we can
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get into because it's. Is.
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somehow doesn't seal to because
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we're toll also to like
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feel unique and special And
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now you're making yourself special again because
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you are claiming
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a greater deal of
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suffering that other people can't
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understand. And
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so therefore you're now above them and
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you're the weight that you must carry
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and your strength in carrying
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this negative heaviness. So
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that thing always like materializes until
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you look at it directly,
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I suppose. I
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just tried to look at it more and more directly over
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the years because I see how
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it just, it
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takes me away from my goal. You
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know, my goal is to just
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be and to embrace
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the real nature of now without
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any of that stuff that separates me
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from other people. And
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I'm still not, I mean, I'm better at
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it now, but I'm not, you
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know, I still fight with it
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constantly. You
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know, in social situations, I kind
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of tend to put
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up a little bit of distance and a little bit of a
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wall at first with a lot of people. And
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that's not who I want to be. You
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know, if, but the
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weird thing is that like a part of me,
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that's who I am, like to a degree.
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But then that
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even thinking like that's who I am, if I
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zoom out a little bit on that, it's like, Oh
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no, that's another grasping at this identity
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structure to keep yourself feeling safe.
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And the real work is like letting go of
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those things. Because if I were to look at it, if I was
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to look back, I would have to look back and back on
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a book of my life and how
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other people thought of me, I
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think I don't want to be the guy that's
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like showing up places and is
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like, got this like noir film energy,
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you know, but that's
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sort of like how I am a lot of times
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unless I, you know, open up the
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door and become warm and friendly
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and engaging and
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I'll be warm and friendly in those moments too,
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I'm just a lot more reserved as all it
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is. I
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think that's a good way to say it. Not distant. I'm
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just very reserved a lot of times in
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like social situations where I don't know
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people or even if I do know people,
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just very, very reserved. And
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if I look back at the story, you know, if I were
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to look at it and I think, how do I, how would,
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if other people described to me, they
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probably wouldn't think of those moments I'm thinking
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because that's not, that's maybe 20% of how
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I am. But
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I want them to think who I
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want to be for others is someone who is
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always warm and open
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and comfortable and people that they
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feel immediately like at ease around.
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What is interesting is that even whenever I
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feel like I'm being very reserved, that
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people will tell me that they feel like
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calm around me, which
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is good. It's good. But I want to, you know,
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I recognize it. It's one of those
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things. It's another one of those weird grasping
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things of just feeling
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like, like a little bit
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of tension, a little bit of uptightness,
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you know? So
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the point is that the work just always goes on
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and on and on. And he
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gets more fine tuned and it's like, you're
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just using like finer grain or sheets of
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sandpaper to get like a smoother and smoother
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wood essentially. But
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I really, the more that I just keep watching
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for those. things and
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noticing them like these weird layers
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that I have myself that I hold
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on to, the
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more I can let go of them. You know, whenever
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you label, that's a really useful
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thing is like naming these things to yourself.
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If one of you notice a behavior or like
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a way of thinking that you get into
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that you don't want to
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be anymore, like naming it
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to yourself is really valuable. Like
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I was just doing that for
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you all as an example. I'm
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like something of my own where
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it's like, okay,
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I have this feeling that I don't like,
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I'd like to change because I want to
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be as like open,
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warm, and comfortable for
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others as I can. But
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I recognize that sometimes I'm really reserved
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at the beginning. And
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I want to cut down
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the time it takes me to be really
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reserved to being super just normal, normal. And
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so by naming that thing
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to myself, I can
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self actualize it, I can see it
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more clearly and recognize it. It's
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like, oh, there's a label on that now. And
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that brings it up and puts it into view
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of mind. So then it's
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recognized like really easily, there's a shape to
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it, there's a description to it. It's
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got direction and motion. It's like, okay,
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there's the thing and I want, here's
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when it appears and here's how I
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am going to mindfully work
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on that to release it. So
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labeling those things, recognizing
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those little smaller things
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about your
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identity, old
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self-imposed constrictions that
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you know are there, but you're
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trying to look at a change, you
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know, just watching them, healing
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them when they arise, labeling
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them, and then letting
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them go. is so, so
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valuable because the deeper you get into
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that, the more free you
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start to feel and the more at ease
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you start to feel. Because
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you get
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closer to the sense of
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real freedom and
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balance. And
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whenever you're engaging with other people, there's
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none of that weird, like,
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withholding. There's none
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of that weird
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discomfort. There's no
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anxiety. There's
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no judgment. There's no comparison.
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There's just two
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people being
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there and connecting as one. And
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that's really the goal. That's one of the most important
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thing in life. It's
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not material. It's not status.
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Not any of that stuff. It's
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just being able to be human
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and share whatever this is with
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others, as unfiltered
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and as with much genuineness
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as possible.
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