0:01

What's up the slip service. I'm Angela, I'm

0:03

g G Maguire, I'm Storial, I'm

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sorry. Welcome

0:09

back, welcome back smoking the.

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Building now for

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reinforcing Inglewood California stereotype.

0:16

Man, come on, it's okay?

0:17

Is that a serious think?

0:19

This is a California californ type.

0:21

He was that y'all can smoke here legally? Yeah?

0:23

Yeah.

0:24

Legal. Smoking was illegal here for the longest

0:26

because I felt like everybody everybody did anyway,

0:28

I know what.

0:29

It became unspoken rules that you guys

0:31

just knew. But it was so secretive. That's what

0:33

I loved about New York. Like the last five years has changed

0:36

so much. When I first started coming out here, it

0:38

was like speakeasier everywhere and

0:40

like secretive when you have weed. It was

0:42

like shut the fuck up, you know what I mean, that kind of

0:44

situation. But now it's like, yeah, come on in, we got

0:46

somebody we can.

0:48

Now you can go to the store in the street.

0:50

And as it's

0:52

not as fun now that that is legal to

0:55

speaking it, you still can't.

0:56

We'll figure out. Want to live on the edge. That's

1:00

a beautiful sweater. I want to say, did

1:02

that pain come with the sweater or did you add that?

1:04

You know, we added this?

1:05

Okay, I like that. That gives it a little

1:07

oof, you know what I'm saying. And

1:10

sir, listen, it feels

1:12

like I haven't like seen

1:14

you well since before the pandemic

1:17

personally in real life. So how are you

1:19

feeling because you have a new project Heavy

1:21

that is coming out.

1:22

I feel good. We got two weeks two weeks

1:25

to today. I feel really good. We

1:27

put out five singles.

1:30

You guys have gotten to see a lot of the

1:32

new met the new visuals you know,

1:34

that have been very revealing. And you

1:37

know, I'm you know, I'm proud

1:39

of the body of work that we're putting out.

1:40

You know what I mean.

1:41

I'm proud of myself right now. I'm happy, I'm healthy,

1:43

you know what I mean. I'm focused,

1:46

and you know, for

1:48

the most part.

1:49

I'm sober, right for the most part. Well,

1:51

let's get into that, because I said, how

1:53

does it feel that also channels Di'angelo?

1:56

And you did channel di' Angelo somewhat

1:59

in this in this

2:01

project? Right? Is

2:03

that is that fair to say?

2:05

Definitely? It's a couple of shout outs to him,

2:07

some very blatant ones. You know what I mean.

2:08

But I've been a fan of his, and you

2:11

know, I've said it publicly. He's one of the many,

2:13

you know, people that I look up to in music. And

2:17

I think there are a lot of moments where I show

2:19

love to some familiar faces,

2:21

some artists in this album, and there's some easter eggs

2:24

that people aren't even gonna really notice.

2:25

I got to listen to it more because I only had a chance.

2:28

You know, they sent us a little advance. Yeah,

2:30

but we got it right before, so we don't get to Yeah

2:32

started in nothing

2:35

even matters because that's a d' angelo favorite

2:37

with La Hill, and that's a song on

2:39

here also.

2:40

Man, it took me a long time to even like

2:43

know who produced that and and and know

2:46

that it was a D'Angel sample. I just was so attracted

2:48

to the music. I was like, this sample sounds so familiar.

2:50

I don't know what it is. Somebody had to tell me,

2:53

and once they did, we started to plan accordingly

2:55

and make sure that every time we get an opportunity to

2:57

we show him his respect.

2:59

And I used to work for Dangel. Really, Yeah,

3:01

that's a little fun fact. I didn't know that.

3:03

Yeah, I used to work at.

3:04

Virgin Records when they started his label, Chieva

3:06

Sounds. It was like the worst job of my life, No

3:08

wonder you never talk. But it wasn't

3:10

because of DiAngelo. It wasn't

3:13

him. He was It's not like he was in the office ever,

3:15

but it was while he was on that fitness journey. Mark

3:17

Jenkins was his personal trainer, and

3:19

I will tell you he did not show up to the studio, but

3:21

he showed up to them gym sessions.

3:23

Okay.

3:23

He would call the office and be like, Angel, could you

3:25

call Mark and tell him I want to come in

3:27

this time, and then he would have the studio

3:30

electric lady was locked out. But he

3:32

would never show up to the studio

3:34

sessions and he wouldn't let them hear his music.

3:36

And that's when I met Anthony Hamilton

3:38

because Anthony Hamilton was one of his backup singers.

3:40

Wow you know at the time. And that's when Angie Stone

3:43

was on the road with him and they ended

3:45

up having a child together. Yeah, but

3:47

I did used to work for him.

3:49

That's crazy.

3:49

And here's the fun fact. He was a big fan of porn.

3:52

So I remember when he was moving they

3:55

had me go to like help facilitate.

3:57

He wasn't there, but like you know, the moving and everything,

4:00

and he found all his DVDs. It

4:02

was DVD's for sure, like a ben

4:04

Yeah, wow, fun fact.

4:06

I was at that video how does

4:08

it feel video?

4:09

You were there?

4:09

I went to I went to that video shoot.

4:11

I was at Love to Know.

4:13

You know, we stayed for

4:15

a second. I only actually went

4:17

with j Dilla. Okay, yeah, we stayed for

4:19

like a second.

4:19

He was in zone. We were all hanging out

4:22

and yeah, that's a low.

4:23

Key flex right there. Yeah, have

4:25

you seen that's a flex?

4:27

How was it for you doing your video?

4:29

By the way, because I was at bud Necker, so

4:31

it wasn't I mean, And I'm proud of my body.

4:34

I put a lot of work in.

4:35

I did a lot of the working out by myself, like with my

4:37

brother and my nephew, and we trained

4:39

six days a week. I have a nutritionist

4:41

name is Kevin Henderson. He does a lot for me. But

4:45

like I did a.

4:45

Lot of it.

4:45

I don't have no personal trainer.

4:47

I don't have nobody like Mark

4:49

Jackson Johnson you know what I mean.

4:51

You know what I mean. I work out.

4:53

I work out with kid when I can but I really can't afford

4:55

him. I can only afford to keep him as my nutritions.

4:58

So, you know, for the most part, over the last

5:00

year, I've been doing a lot of my own stuff.

5:01

I do sprints, I do bark, I do extra

5:04

work at home, you know what I mean, just to get like

5:06

this.

5:06

I'm thirty seven, I'm not no kid, no more so

5:08

it's hard to stay like that. And a lot of it

5:10

is done in the kitchen, which I'm a

5:12

foodie. I like fried chicken, I

5:15

like to cook. I like you know, going and eating out,

5:17

eating big. So lately

5:19

I've been eating like salmon, zucchini, protein.

5:22

You make it sound so boring.

5:23

It's so fucking.

5:28

Salmon too, But it is all yeah,

5:31

yeah, yeah.

5:31

And it's the portions for me to fuck

5:33

me up. Like I'm eating three on the calorie meals.

5:36

You know what I'm saying.

5:36

You gotta do that four times to day. Two protein

5:38

shakes, no salt, no carbs.

5:40

How was it when you first started, no

5:42

frost,

5:45

nothing, How hard was it when you first

5:47

started? And did you like backslide a few times?

5:49

Definitely?

5:50

It took it took like four months before I actually

5:53

saw my abs and another three months before I

5:55

was actually like shredded, and then I

5:57

started to lose muscle because I couldn't keep up

5:59

with the die. You know, I was skipping meals

6:01

to keep the shred. So now I'm in

6:03

this state where I look good, but I need

6:06

to gain weight to.

6:07

Do it all over again. So I'm bulking. I've been eating

6:09

like crazy in New York.

6:10

I love It's good.

6:11

Yeah.

6:11

Yeah, I had carbone in the Barclays

6:13

Center.

6:17

Oh that's because they have the Crown Room.

6:20

Lillow tiny room. Somebody was like, yeah,

6:22

this carbone. I was like, no, he sat

6:24

down and we ate and.

6:27

Take some stuff to go to. Yeah,

6:31

because you were at the Brooklyn nescame. I had no idea you

6:33

were a Nuts fan.

6:34

Yeah, go Lakers,

6:36

don't don't.

6:41

It was good to see Schroder, who used to play on the Lakers.

6:43

And it's my first time seeing Michil

6:46

Bridges play live. I'm a big fan of his, you know what I mean.

6:48

I'm a fan of the NBA.

6:49

You don't know that. You know, got to play an All Star with kids.

6:52

I saw you, you know what I mean, telling

6:54

up your muscles playing

6:57

body. Oh my god, Now

7:01

let's get into some things though, because you

7:03

know, you started over on your Instagram page,

7:05

right, and it's like a fresh start for you. But you've

7:07

been through a lot these past few years that

7:10

people may not have even known what's

7:12

happening. Yes, so you

7:14

know, I know it's something that and

7:17

I feel like it's reflected in the music well,

7:20

because how could it? Yeah, the album is called

7:22

heavy. Yeah, So talk to us

7:24

about just what happened, because I know you ended

7:26

up going to rehab and you

7:28

know you've been up here before. We had a

7:31

great time with you, and I've gone

7:33

to watch your shows because honestly love

7:35

you as a performer, and I think that's

7:37

so important to you know, the music and being

7:39

able to perform it live. So what exactly

7:42

was going on with you?

7:43

Oh? Man?

7:44

It just started off as as

7:47

you know, me, kind of not really knowing how

7:49

to navigate the whole being served.

7:52

I hate being sir sometimes,

7:54

you know what I mean. More So nowadays

7:57

I'm more accepting of it, I would say, because

8:00

I have a different understanding of who it is and what

8:02

it does for me and my family. But when it

8:04

all started, I just was lost, lost

8:07

in the sauce. I like that phrase and

8:10

it started affecting my relationships. I

8:12

wasn't talking to anybody about it, and I started to

8:14

self medicaid. Man,

8:18

I talk about my wife a lot when I talk about

8:20

this, because she suffered a lot. We have

8:22

a three year old. She suffered a lot, you

8:25

know what I mean, having to see me in these states and stuff

8:27

like that. But you know, at the point

8:30

the point I decided to like reach out for help,

8:33

man, I thank God for that moment, because there

8:35

are a lot of people that go through the same things and don't make

8:37

it to the other side of it because they never reach out. They

8:39

never get a chance to really talk about it. So it

8:42

took a lot for and she I

8:44

really didn't even really get a chance to talk about

8:46

it.

8:46

I got caught. I ain't gonna lie.

8:50

But once I did get caught, and it

8:52

was the cat was out the bag and it was official that

8:54

I was fucked up. And you know, we started

8:56

to work on the steps, you know, and I did the work.

8:59

And what do you mean you got caught?

9:01

Oh? Man, I had a surgery. Right, let's just say

9:03

I had a surgery.

9:03

And before you go into anaesthesi you have to tell the

9:05

doctor what you've been on with kind of drugs you've done over the last

9:08

seventy two hours. And I had to write that shit down,

9:10

so I don't get my DC power. I don't

9:12

say it live, I won't say it to y'all, but I

9:14

had to write that shit down, Memma. If he came in the room,

9:17

my wife's sitting.

9:17

Next to me, was like, so, you

9:19

drank some alcohol, smoked some weed, pomps and

9:22

pills, did this and that, and

9:24

she was and she was like, excuse me, and I said,

9:26

yes, He's like okay, cool,

9:29

thank you. I walked out the room.

9:31

And of course after that, you know, it wasn't

9:33

There was no keeping of the secret. I was already like sick

9:35

around the house and she thought it was something else, but

9:38

it was me just trying to recover from the night

9:40

of me doing drugs all night.

9:42

And this all like, you had your first child

9:44

together, so this is all happening

9:46

with the baby, and she probably was already dealing with a

9:48

lot maybe when.

9:49

It came to that, but yeah,

9:51

definitely not for sure.

9:52

And I mean just trying to navigate it while we're trying

9:54

to get me sober, because she was pregnant when all this was

9:56

happening. So as soon as we found out during

9:59

her pregnancy, I tried to go.

10:00

I went to rehab. Sucked horrible,

10:02

you know what I mean. For the first you know, for the

10:04

first time was like three weeks. It

10:07

went well, you know what I mean.

10:08

I got out, got high immediately right

10:10

second time lasted six months.

10:12

I did great, did all the steps, you

10:15

know, got got past the worst of it,

10:17

relapsed this time.

10:19

I didn't go back to a normal rehab though.

10:21

Me and Top kind of came up with a plant, like tuck

10:24

me to the side and like take my

10:26

phone, take my car, take my keys.

10:28

Oh wow, you really really well

10:30

know, let's sit here for a year and a half. Let's

10:32

sit here. I got the time, we got the time.

10:34

And you got And you know what's great about that, because

10:36

some people would be concerned about

10:38

the music, like you got to put something out. It's

10:41

hot right now.

10:42

Forever, nigga. I'm not.

10:43

I'm not talking nigga that makes music because

10:46

it's a fad. I do this because I'm

10:49

connected to God. Yeah, it's different. So

10:51

Top's not gonna just put some bullshit out and he's

10:53

definitely not gonna let me put the gold out while

10:55

I'm not able to present it or represent myself.

10:58

How did Top Dog find out to him and

11:00

tell him or did he he knew?

11:01

Hef top new before

11:03

Kelly?

11:04

Did top knew a long time ago? But topic

11:06

you know, you know, it probably

11:09

wouldn't help me. Top was very gentle

11:11

about this, And I mean, we come from a place where

11:13

this is normal. Niggas don't know me like that. They hear

11:15

my music and I think I'm this thing. I'm

11:17

a nigga from the streets. Fuck you don't don't

11:19

put no box on me. You don't know where I

11:22

come from. You don't know that I both my

11:24

parents was crackheads. You don't

11:26

know why being an addict is like a thing

11:28

in my family, right and it's normal

11:30

in my community and has been, you know what I

11:32

mean. Don't talk to me about this ship until you really

11:34

know who I am, really, you know what I mean. I've

11:37

seen so much, you know what I mean, before I went through

11:39

my own addiction, I've seen so much.

11:41

You know, you also come from a family of

11:43

people in the music business right too,

11:45

and so it kind of a lot of times in the music

11:48

business that just kind of does exist too.

11:51

You know in general.

11:52

Yeah, and I think it amplifies

11:54

it. It And to me, we talked about

11:56

this all the time. I was talking with Sway earlier about this, like,

11:58

we don't, we don't, We're not for this kind of attention,

12:01

you know.

12:01

What I mean. And it's

12:03

it's it's only until you.

12:05

Get it that you realize there's

12:08

a certain way you have to be and I have to act. And when

12:10

you see people succeeding in the music industry and actually

12:12

succeeding in life, they're following those

12:14

rules. And it's simple, you know what I mean. It's

12:17

it should be built into your strategy. Routine

12:19

is a that's the most important thing. I

12:21

mean, well, hallelujah, God is

12:23

the most important thing, right, Routine is second.

12:29

Let's stop there. Yeah yeah, but you know, and

12:32

no, let's switch it up. Let's let's let's add routine

12:34

in the mix. But let's just say family and like, just

12:36

like your home, life is

12:39

your life. Being sir is a gift.

12:41

Is special, you know what I mean. I'm

12:44

not.

12:45

I'm not special. Being sir is

12:47

special. That job is great. I

12:49

got hired to do it. I am nothing but the

12:52

man that is hired to be sir, I'm Daryl

12:54

Fairs. When I leave, I'm Sir Darryl at the

12:56

house. But I'm supposed to be home, you

12:58

know. And this album just

13:01

really goes through the motions

13:04

of the last.

13:04

Four years for me. It talks about everything.

13:06

You know what I mean, And what was the first song that you wrote

13:09

that was on here?

13:10

Woo heavy yourself? I've

13:12

been killing myself softly

13:15

wakeing of remembering. I'm

13:18

losing sleep over dreams that were coming

13:20

true. I was tweaking when

13:23

I wrote that song, Wow Wow, scared

13:25

out of my mind.

13:25

I didn't want to talk to nobody about it, wanted to just just I

13:27

wanted people to know. Though people heard that song

13:29

and still didn't get it. Though some days I'm

13:31

just fine with except that I won't change and maybe

13:33

a little more time before I get sick of these games,

13:36

might as well enjoy this ride. I'm the passenger of

13:38

my own ship, auto pilot and game changing,

13:40

hanging out the window this whole trip, like

13:42

I.

13:42

Was talking like crazy.

13:45

I was talking about me getting doped

13:47

up and not.

13:48

You know, because people also had no idea what you were

13:50

going through. And that's why once

13:52

you know that, it connects it you

13:55

know a lot better because clearly, like before we

13:57

got this, I knew you knew,

13:59

yeah, having this journey. But if I would have

14:01

heard that, I would have just thought you were being very

14:03

creative, creative right right.

14:05

And it's a beautiful song.

14:06

That's I think that's the real the what

14:08

we wanted to work in with the juxtaposition

14:11

between you know, what we're actually

14:13

saying and what you're hearing. So it sounds really fluffy

14:15

and very nice, but I'm

14:17

talking the work just cut off of three.

14:20

Day venders still enjoying a ride.

14:23

And I was just thinking, like he just was drinking a lot. Like

14:25

when I heard that, I was like, okay,

14:27

but three days as a bender even drinking is

14:29

a lot.

14:30

I've been talking my shit up and I respect

14:33

to and I say this is a weird thing to say, but respect

14:35

to alcoholics and people in recovery, any

14:37

type of DC. Don't think drinking

14:40

is something that you should pass over and look like

14:42

and not to say, y'all having fun right now is something

14:44

that you got to worry about. But like for an alcoholic,

14:47

a real alcoholic who

14:49

those motherfuckers.

14:50

Are scared reap you

14:52

read about that, Yeah.

14:53

Look you know, alcohol

14:56

is not to be fucked with, you know what I mean. And it's just

14:58

like any other thing. Marijuana can be an addiction.

15:00

It's not my addiction. It's my pleasure. It's

15:02

something I enjoy. I'm not like, oh weed

15:05

here, I gotta smoke all the time. I

15:07

just like it, you know what I mean. And it's the thing

15:09

that I do that doesn't harm my path,

15:12

my life.

15:13

It doesn't affect anything.

15:14

It makes me a better version of myself

15:16

in instances where I needed to.

15:18

It doesn't do what you know it does to weed

15:20

heads.

15:20

How often do you smoke?

15:22

Probably like four.

15:23

Or five days a week, you know what I mean. Not every

15:25

day and definitely not like I used

15:27

to. I used to try to

15:29

smoke to go to sleep.

15:30

It didn't work. I used to Yeah, no,

15:33

no, no.

15:33

I know people who wake up and before they brush it. Yeah

15:36

yeah yeah, And I'm like, you got it.

15:38

They just smoke all.

15:41

And it's an expensive habit yeah

15:43

oh yeah, because you can't smoke no trash.

15:45

Yeah, now, CALLI is a little

15:47

cheaper, That's what I was gonna say.

15:50

Super expensive. So you know, I definitely keep

15:52

weed on me for sure.

15:53

Can we talk about the song only human, Yeah,

15:58

because you

16:00

know, I feel like only human is what guys say when

16:03

they mess up to you,

16:05

like to women, like, look, I'm a human, I'm

16:08

a work in progress. You know I'm

16:10

talking about to me, I.

16:12

Thought it was a vivid way to paint, you know, my infidelities,

16:15

that's all.

16:15

And really that's an eight year old song. Was

16:17

crazy about that. As I wrote there, before I did anything

16:20

or made any mistakes or anything like that. It

16:22

was just I was like, this would be a cool way to

16:25

say I cheated.

16:27

Wow, and

16:29

regret it. I really regret that.

16:31

I regret writing it in certain

16:33

moments because it's it's

16:36

just it was me.

16:37

It was me. It's not me anymore.

16:39

I definitely you know, I have a

16:41

gracious wife. I'm still with my wife.

16:43

You know that's amazing. Yeah, you hear

16:46

here, let me tell

16:48

you. And I also want to say

16:50

that, like, even before this album, you did

16:53

talk a lot about the struggles of being

16:55

on the road and being faithful.

16:57

And you know, I fought the good fight. I ain't gonna

16:59

lie to you. I tried my damn this. But

17:01

when we talk about like, man,

17:06

where I've been to, what I've seen and the opportunities

17:08

I've had in my life. It's like

17:11

nothing you'll ever get like and

17:13

and

17:15

man, people like that attention, people like that energy,

17:18

and it's it's hard to

17:20

stay focused, it really is. You have

17:22

to you have to be ground

17:25

dead. And I was not, you

17:27

know, I was not and learned

17:30

some hard lessons. Lessons got

17:33

kicked out of my house, you know what I mean. I don't

17:35

got no pushover. It wasn't like I was like this

17:38

third and she's like baby, it

17:43

was it was fisticuffs,

17:45

you know, it wasn't it was.

17:46

It was not games.

17:47

And you know, I've

17:49

been showing a lot of grace and that's what I That's what

17:52

I want to.

17:52

Show anybody else that's going through anything

17:54

like that, you know what I mean.

17:55

I just want to show them love and grace because hopefully

17:58

they you know, they have somebody like I do on

18:00

their side, you know what I mean.

18:01

I'm blessed and I know it.

18:03

You felt like it was going to be over, Like was she ever

18:05

like.

18:07

We were done? Yeah? We were done. We were done.

18:09

How did you get back? Because that's one thing that

18:12

guys always trying to figure out

18:14

time.

18:15

I've known this one since I was fifteen, you know

18:17

what I mean. So it's different.

18:19

Then, and there was never a time where we weren't

18:21

gonna be co parents, so

18:24

you know, our emotions were kind of like

18:27

set to the side really quickly, hard to kind of

18:29

hide and spilt

18:31

right on over into the bedroom and we.

18:33

Just that can

18:35

patch things up way right

18:37

back.

18:40

No, no, no, just a lot of it was conversation,

18:42

like and painful conversation, but definitely

18:46

that room.

18:47

You know what that is so crazy because guys

18:49

would tell you that is like the most passionate

18:52

sec use, but

18:54

they go up. It's very toxic,

18:57

you know. That's what y'all do, whatever you

18:59

gotta do. It's all about pleasing,

19:02

makes good and going and

19:04

saying all the right things.

19:07

Ext I

19:13

definitely like I've broken down

19:15

so many times I can't count, and my wife

19:18

has seen the ugliest side of me, you

19:20

know, and I think I think that kind of vulnerability

19:23

is.

19:25

It's it's hard to.

19:28

It's hard to it's hard to accept, but it's

19:31

hard not to accept, like when somebody's that

19:33

truthful.

19:33

You know what I mean. I was, I was blatant, I

19:35

was ugly and was sick all

19:37

at the same time. I was an anecdote.

19:40

All during all this, you know what.

19:41

I mean, And that was the biggest part of my addiction.

19:43

I'm a god fearing, god feeled man.

19:46

So to have stepped out of my house because

19:48

I thought I had something that I didn't

19:50

or it was was somebody that I wasn't

19:53

was not sitting well in my spirit, and the

19:55

only way that I was like getting

19:58

through getting by

20:00

was self medicating.

20:02

Was this during the pandemic too? Yeah, okay,

20:05

the pandemic.

20:07

So I was stuck at the crib.

20:08

I was literally lived downtown, was

20:11

going down to my parking lot car and

20:13

just doing my thing

20:16

for hours on end, for days on end. She was

20:18

knocked out in the bed, didn't know I was downstairs

20:21

in the living room while she was sleep doing

20:23

my thing, going crazy.

20:27

How much of a role did that the pandemic

20:29

play in this too, because.

20:31

No idea knew that it fucked everybody up,

20:33

but didn't know that. It was like weighing so

20:35

heavy on what was going on with my own personal challenge,

20:38

But looking back, it

20:42

was, oh man, COVID was

20:44

hard.

20:45

Cold. That COVID period was hard.

20:47

Because there's also a time where you got to be out making

20:49

money, on the road things are hot, yep.

20:52

And then now everything hadn't

20:55

been used to being home.

20:56

Right, and I was downtown in La too.

20:58

But the thing about me, though, I was slick

21:00

as fuck, so I wasn't like I never

21:02

felt that kind of pressure. I got what I needed, I got

21:04

an nowhere to go. No, no, no, I

21:06

had money.

21:07

That's the thing, y'all gotta remember, like I was, sir. So

21:10

it wasn't getting getting drugs or getting.

21:12

What I needed was easy for show

21:14

outn't pay niggas rent for show out and bought

21:16

a Porsche Panama with a dope for show.

21:19

I didn't lost it all. Y'all don't understand.

21:22

I was an added that I wasn't no like, no,

21:25

no, it wasn't no little thing it was.

21:27

And the thing, like you said, you are sir, So

21:29

was it also embarrassing that like these people

21:32

are serving.

21:33

You smoke smoke?

21:37

Yeah, oh yeah, it wasn't embarrassing.

21:39

Oh man, I didn't care.

21:41

I didn't because, like you know, I'm

21:44

giving, sir.

21:45

But they treated me like they loved

21:47

me. Why would they not.

21:50

I'm keeping the block hot, why would they

21:52

not? Yeah, I got

21:54

the money they want, Why would they need, not.

21:57

What they need.

21:58

I feel like some people think that's a rock star thing

22:00

too. Like I feel like

22:02

in the music business you do stuff

22:04

like that and it's not as frowned upon because

22:06

it's like rock star vibes like.

22:09

And if that is true, I'll

22:11

be the first to stand up against

22:13

it because that I mean, I

22:16

definitely didn't have didn't get that feeling from the people around

22:18

me. People around me want to be to be healthy, you

22:20

know what I mean.

22:21

I definitely wasn't encouraged or pushed in

22:23

the direction I was pushed.

22:24

This was a choice I made on my own.

22:25

Well no, but sometimes people just kind of accept it

22:27

more when you know it's because

22:29

they're like, yeah, you know, sir right again,

22:32

but you know, he is a artist.

22:34

I think that's more. I think that's more people

22:37

that see it don't want to talk about it. That

22:39

isn't anyone's fault. That is that's that's more

22:41

of the addicts fault. Drugs are never

22:43

the fault of somebody that's watching it happen, especially

22:46

somebody that doesn't understand. I appreciate you for

22:48

saying that, because this point is very poignant. You

22:50

don't blame somebody for non understanding.

22:53

You don't if somebody's watching somebody get

22:55

high and they're.

22:56

Like, what the fuck is going on?

22:58

They don't know what drug they're using, they don't see them in jesting

23:00

it. They don't they don't actually know what's

23:02

going on, but they feel it in their spirit.

23:05

You can't be mad at that person. You got

23:07

to be mad at that. You gotta be mad at the motherfucker's trying

23:09

to hide it and trying to act normal and trying

23:11

to be mad

23:13

at that.

23:13

But don't be mad at the person that's trying to figure out what the

23:15

fuck's going on.

23:16

And that brings us to this song Trying my heart

23:19

is.

23:20

That song makes me cry.

23:21

Fucking was gonna say, I

23:24

can see it.

23:25

Is okay, but like performing it live. I've tried

23:27

to rehearse it in live and mark two

23:31

seconds inn and definitely wrote that

23:33

after the second relapse I was talking about so

23:35

the first time around.

23:37

Definitely lost my shit.

23:38

Three days after I got out of the door second

23:41

time, after a long period of not messing

23:44

up, I messed up and I wrote that song. I'm trying my

23:46

hardest plent to sy give it time, hope that it grows

23:48

energy is hard to find. I know that you know promises

23:51

I want to keep in keeping me down, but I know

23:53

how I would feel if I can't keep you around. So

23:55

I meditate, got my mind focused on you.

23:57

Change your pace. It ain't a race.

23:59

I'm chasing the truth, sick of all the pain that

24:01

I've been putting you through. I keep getting it wrong,

24:03

but I know that I'm trying my hardest. I

24:05

wish more people really like read lyrics and paid attention.

24:08

Whate motherfuckers were saying, if they pay attention to what I'm

24:10

actually saying on this, they'll, they'll,

24:12

they'll.

24:12

That sounds to me really touched me too, though,

24:15

just actually knowing what you went

24:17

through and knowing that it's probably the especially

24:20

towards it's also towards the end of the album,

24:22

and so knowing that, like you've done the

24:25

no Evil six whole Days, six

24:27

whole Days, which is just you on that song, and you're

24:29

talking about just looking at the sun, and

24:31

so basically you've been up.

24:33

And so that song

24:35

represents a bad time.

24:37

I was just telling somebody that was I.

24:38

Was going through it when I wrote that

24:40

song, just after the last Relapse.

24:44

It was just a

24:46

day that had been way too long, and I was in my

24:48

mother's backyard just looking up

24:50

at the sky and that that idea came and I

24:52

sang it to my mom as a joke and she laughed,

24:54

and then I just went inside and actually like kind of

24:57

jotted it down.

24:57

Yeah, and it worked out. It turned out. That's

25:00

uncle playing bass, that's my mom singing about Wow.

25:05

Me and cale Banks shout out to.

25:06

Cow and

25:09

definitely my uncle Andrew is like he's

25:11

a god of base. He's a god of gospel based

25:13

people know him. We our careers started

25:16

from the Q base that he

25:18

gave us and the Excel

25:22

board that he gave us back in the day. He

25:24

gave us everything that we've ever worked on, all

25:26

the equipment and always put you

25:28

know, our careers first, you know what I mean.

25:30

Love him to death.

25:30

So anytime I get an opportunity to work with him,

25:33

I do. And he's like excited to work with me,

25:35

which is crazy, Like hello, what

25:39

he's like sixty hours, Like sixty one I believe.

25:41

But you know, I still see him as the young

25:44

who like driving a Porsche Uncle

25:46

Andrew tour in the world musician,

25:49

you know what I mean, And the like that

25:52

song in particular is a blessing to have

25:54

on the roster because I got so many family members attached to

25:56

it.

25:57

On that too, my brother Dave.

25:58

So y'all got like it is. I really

26:00

like that. You

26:04

know, how hard is it too, even when you're

26:06

listening to this album knowing what you

26:08

are going through, you know on

26:10

so many of these songs, like and I

26:12

know you're planning a tour so you'll be performing

26:15

this.

26:15

I mean, this is this is the most

26:17

emotional I'll ever be, for sure.

26:20

It's I mean, it's difficult listening back. But

26:23

I'm not in the place anymore. I don't

26:25

I don't go there anymore. I'm I'm

26:27

stuck in my routine. I'm focused on

26:29

the right things, and I know what I have to

26:31

do. I have to sing it.

26:33

I have to sing it.

26:36

For your wife to hear some of this.

26:37

She don't listen to it. Wow, we don't

26:39

listen to it. And I don't play in my house. I don't force it on you

26:42

know what I mean. I ain't gonna do that. It's no point.

26:44

I gotta listen.

26:44

I have to listen to What are the rules

26:47

now? With everything that you guys have been through

26:49

things change in the household, right, and there are certain

26:52

things that you have to, like really continue to prove

26:54

yourself.

26:55

One of the biggest things that we do is we keep a

26:58

very very open been in the line

27:00

of communication, like.

27:01

Calls whenever calls all the time. We have

27:03

fun with it. I actually enjoy it, like more than

27:06

she does.

27:06

I call her all the time, like

27:09

what I love to I'm in the background,

27:13

and we just talked constantly. And

27:15

of course, you know, I got open phone privileges,

27:17

which you know, was never really a big thing in our relationship.

27:20

She's never wanted to check my phone, but nowadays

27:22

she can grab my phone ever she.

27:24

Wants to look through it. Of course, everything's cool, you.

27:26

Know, and just

27:28

a lot of prayer and a lot of like

27:31

rough conversations, you know, we

27:33

don't have them too much anymore, but a

27:36

lot of rough

27:39

me saying stuff that I should have said a long time

27:41

ago, stuff she don't want to hear, and

27:44

me, you know, trying to

27:46

talk.

27:46

Through things that she needs from me and figure

27:48

things out. A lot of tough conversations.

27:52

Does she want to know everything you did? Because

27:54

I know sometimes okay, some

27:56

people want to know, like Kim help

27:59

you went through it went through? Did

28:01

you want to know it all?

28:03

When I was going through it, I was looking for answers,

28:05

right, like so like the the I

28:08

think for me, the

28:10

why of it all was really the answer.

28:13

That's a huge thing because the why attached

28:16

to the why is like his.

28:17

Emotions, right, you know what I mean?

28:18

Like what am I doing wrong? It

28:21

comes first, That's what she think, Kelly. I'm just

28:23

speaking from my wife. I know there's probably some similarities,

28:25

but like what she thought?

28:26

What am I doing wrong? What did I do wrong? You

28:29

know what I mean? Or like where's his head

28:31

been?

28:31

Like how did he get to the point where

28:33

do we miss where he got to the point where he thought

28:36

he needed this as his outlet?

28:38

You know what I mean?

28:38

And it's not exactly

28:41

but the kind And this is one of those tricky

28:43

conversations where it's it's it's so much

28:46

deeper than that and bigger than that, but it's it's a whole

28:48

different mindset, and especially me being served,

28:50

my mindset was not that It wasn't that I was

28:52

falling in love at all.

28:54

In any instance. My heart was never the thing

28:56

that was in it.

28:57

It was in addiction

29:00

and be an emotional like almost

29:02

released, like there was no emotion.

29:04

Attached to disconnect.

29:05

It was a disconnect.

29:06

It was the exact opposite, you know what I mean, And I

29:08

don't you know, say that's for everybody,

29:11

you know, that was your situation.

29:12

That was my situation where I was, I was disconnecting.

29:15

And what did her fan? Did her family know what

29:17

was going on? And where they like, I'm sure they know now,

29:19

Okay now, because sometimes

29:21

people share too much and then it kind

29:24

of can ruin.

29:25

This ain't nobody business with mine? No, at the end of the

29:27

day, Like that's what me and Kelly do know. And that's

29:29

this is a mistake that a lot of people make, is they bring

29:31

people into these situations.

29:33

Nobody has any word or say, in.

29:35

My eye, we got fists for you,

29:37

I got fisticuffs for you.

29:38

Nobody has any word in our situation.

29:40

Did y'all do like any type of therapy, couple's

29:42

therapy or nothing?

29:44

We did an individual therapy, okay, individuals

29:47

for sure, Yeah, a couple therapy.

29:48

We've talked about it, prayed about it.

29:51

How was therapy for you?

29:52

Great?

29:53

Wonderful, very eye opening,

29:56

very self revealing, Like how mag oh, my gosh.

29:58

I learned a lot about like forgiveness

30:00

in my therapy, you know, self forgiveness

30:03

huge radics. We don't know how you know

30:05

what I mean. That's one of our first problems is not being

30:07

able to talk about it and not be able to move past it, able

30:10

to forgive ourselves for the things we've done, because

30:12

a lot of it's like things we don't talk about, like

30:15

people never see type shit. But forgiveness.

30:17

My therapist was great at giving me that gift,

30:20

you know, and

30:22

we talked. We talked a lot about routine,

30:25

you know, like me figuring out what my routine was. She's

30:27

the one that got me like back focused on like the gym

30:29

and stuff like that, and switched that dopamine

30:31

on for me, you know what I mean, And like, oh.

30:33

She's great.

30:34

You think you're addicted to the gym.

30:35

Now I know. I'm addicted to them.

30:38

It's not a bad addiction. But not all addictions

30:40

are bad, No.

30:41

No, for sure. For sure. I used to be addicted

30:43

to gummy bears, you know what I mean. I much rather be addicted

30:45

to sprints.

30:46

Man. I used to always eat gummy beers from the stomach

30:48

first. Is that crazy? The stomach. When

30:50

I was little, I used

30:53

to eat the stomach and why vended?

30:55

And then I would do that and act like they

30:57

were in pain.

30:58

Would you like to talk?

30:58

You talk to them before you did, and

31:02

then they would look very like distorted,

31:05

you know, it would.

31:06

Look like screaming and the hurt.

31:08

I really killed this gummy beer stomach

31:11

first.

31:12

I think mutilated stomach

31:15

off of gummy bears.

31:17

I was the next time I eat a gummy beer, I want.

31:19

To do that.

31:19

I want to talk to like, what's your last word?

31:23

I think you're gonna live?

31:25

Now that's weird.

31:30

Okay, so gummy bears beers,

31:32

and now you're to zucchini. Actually

31:37

I love I love zucchini too.

31:39

But the way he said like salmon zucchati,

31:43

you.

31:43

Know, I think I was switching at all. Right, So I eat according

31:45

to like my blood type and your

31:47

blood low cor uh?

31:49

Oh unusual? Wasn't

31:52

that like the most unusual?

31:53

Positive?

31:54

Negative?

31:55

Your oh?

31:57

Positives? Pretty common?

31:59

Pretty comb is the most.

32:01

Baby My daughter has a.

32:02

Really Oh do they ask her to get blood all the

32:04

time? Not yet they will as an adult

32:08

every month. You know, Okay,

32:11

you're a positive.

32:12

Yeah?

32:12

Oh wow, you know our diets are so different,

32:15

like what our bodies digest and how it

32:17

digests are very similar.

32:19

So I can't. I've told her I can't do red meat.

32:22

I can, but it's not yeah

32:24

you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I can do beef.

32:27

You can do lamb.

32:28

Lamb is great for us. You know, salmon's

32:31

great for us. Any kind of white fish is great

32:33

for us. Chicken, no,

32:35

fried chicken. Chicken

32:38

is neutral, which is crazy.

32:40

Love.

32:40

I love chicken. Dark

32:45

meat not so much, you know, I mean too much. Fact.

32:48

Yeah, but avocados

32:50

bad for us.

32:52

I've never heard avocado a

32:54

lot of I love ala.

32:56

I just had avocado for the first time. I

32:58

don't but it doesn't. Yeah,

33:00

I don't like it.

33:01

You don't. You guys are weird.

33:03

Yeah, I don't. I'm like

33:05

a superrigy eater. I just had it for the first

33:07

I don't like the consistency, I don't like the texture.

33:10

My daughter, the first I would try to give it to her, she

33:12

made this face that I will never forget. It was

33:14

like it was like the face like was like, why hast

33:16

out forsaken?

33:20

How did life change after? I mean, I know you were going

33:22

through a lot, like while your wife was pregnant, but you have

33:25

a daughter. You know what

33:27

were some great moments from having

33:29

a little girl?

33:30

Oh Man, one of the best was like

33:33

her first time walking.

33:34

She started walking when she was like a year

33:36

and like a month.

33:38

Little girls walking earlier than boy.

33:40

But I mean, I just I just know that from the time

33:42

she started walking, it was almost like she started running

33:45

the next day.

33:45

She's the fastest person in our house.

33:47

And like we talk about lely because

33:50

she she's a toddler, full on tiller

33:52

now but likes to like do this thing where you

33:54

say come here, and she says and.

33:56

Goes the opposite direction. One

33:59

of the favorite games to play.

34:00

But she's like a football Like she's

34:02

like a wide receiver. How

34:04

she dodges and jukes. You reach for her

34:07

shoulder drops, she moves back. She's just the

34:09

jukester. She's like she's the

34:11

swiftest like ninja that I've

34:13

ever met in my life. And you know, just

34:16

our conversations are sweet. That the

34:18

most innocent things I've ever had

34:20

my life.

34:20

And she's she's three now, so that's she's

34:23

in school. That's a good age.

34:26

And everything you say and

34:28

you could tell that they really understand you.

34:30

Know everything, body train, and.

34:32

Yeah, we're we're definitely at the stage

34:35

where we're like considering another baby

34:37

and like, you know time,

34:41

I definitely

34:43

what I would take another girl in a heartbeat.

34:46

That's one of those choices that I would never ever

34:49

want to make or make a

34:52

face about. I'd be happy with anything.

34:54

Man.

34:54

You know, me and my wife been together a long time. We was trying to have

34:56

kids in our twenties. You know, we were blessed

34:58

with a kid in our in our you know what I

35:00

mean. So to have another one, what a

35:02

miracle. You know, what a miracle.

35:05

Y'all have been through so many You've been through so much.

35:08

Honestly, I'm so happy that

35:10

you're in this space that you're in right now. How long

35:12

has it been since you've been pretty much.

35:14

Sober and

35:17

going on? Four months or three months?

35:19

Okay?

35:20

Yeah?

35:21

Man, all this was like happen it in twenty twenty

35:23

It's twenty four, right, Yeah.

35:25

So the worst of

35:27

it was over in twenty twenty two.

35:31

When did you get comfortable talking about it?

35:34

What's today?

35:38

Over the last like six months, you know what I mean,

35:40

I've.

35:43

I've had a few chances to talk about it

35:45

in private, that kind of helped me get ready

35:47

to talk about it in public, talk about it with

35:49

some people that I wanted to talk about it with, nephews,

35:53

uncles, aunts, you know, people that

35:55

knew but didn't know, had heard but hadn't

35:57

seen, or wasn't sure, wasn't sure.

36:00

Is there anything that is there anything

36:02

that you think that anybody could have said to you

36:04

that would have mattered, because I know a lot of

36:06

times there's a lot of people that are you know,

36:08

dealing with somebody close to them and are trying

36:10

to figure out how to navigate. But sometimes

36:14

like I don't know if there's

36:16

nothing you can say or is there anything that you feel

36:18

like could have helped.

36:20

I mean, people tried, but I think.

36:25

One of the main things that I've learned is,

36:27

you know, the first thing is you

36:30

have to want to help yourself.

36:32

You know what I mean?

36:32

You can't yeah, and someone's not ready,

36:35

they can't receive that.

36:36

You have the strongest support system around you. But

36:38

if you're not ready to make the steps, nothing's

36:40

gonna change.

36:41

Did it make you duck people if they were trying to talk

36:43

to you.

36:44

Yeah, I remember one time in particular, being

36:46

mood. Laugh at this now but Musa who being

36:49

Musa fucking which we had

36:51

to meet in at Apple and I had a

36:53

brand new car. I just bought a

36:55

car, brand new Tesla and

37:00

a man, I just was not in

37:02

any position to show up to this meeting.

37:04

And I called Mouse. I was like, hey, man,

37:07

I'm.

37:07

Sorry, bro, but I got a flat tire. I'm stuck

37:09

on the side of the road. Man, I can't They're

37:11

not gonna be able to get to me for another hour. I'm

37:14

not gonna make it. He's like,

37:17

all right, you want me to reschedule? Okay, bye,

37:20

hung up the phone, turned my phone off, and

37:22

just continue to do

37:24

some bullshit and.

37:26

That kind of stuff. Now it's like funny to think

37:28

about. But yeah,

37:31

I've been through a lot, man.

37:32

Yeah, And so when is the tour going

37:34

to start?

37:39

He's like, I don't know, July.

37:42

With July August where we're playing dates

37:44

right now. We're still trying to figure it out.

37:46

But man, when I tell you got

37:48

to see Sarah perform, and I gotta go,

37:52

I have not pretty good you

37:54

know, I don't be outside like that.

37:56

I definitely went to I had to, you

37:58

know, and this was gonna be a lot different I'm simplified

38:00

things. I think I've grown a lot of my artistry

38:03

as a person. You know, I

38:05

definitely want to, you

38:07

know, make sure that the tour is proper

38:11

this time around, the last time I wasn't even

38:13

so, I wasn't so all the way sober on tour.

38:16

I mean it was, I mean I couldn't tell so

38:18

nobody.

38:19

Yeah, yeah, it was the beginning of

38:21

the end for me. But still this time

38:23

around, I know I'm a lot I've

38:26

been focused a lot more on my vocal. I've been

38:28

doing a lot more singing, you know, I've been doing

38:30

a lot more cardio. It's a lot more

38:32

personal work, you know what I mean. So I'm excited to show this

38:34

version of myself.

38:35

You have your shirt off.

38:41

They pay me extra make now have you.

38:43

Have you spoken to DeAngelo at all?

38:45

Never? Not a once.

38:48

I feel like that could happen though, Like have

38:50

you tried or figured?

38:51

No?

38:52

No, no, no, I barely man the features

38:54

that I got on my my gcause they the hummies.

38:56

I don't be reaching out.

38:57

So Anderson Pack, I love that song.

38:59

My bros man.

39:00

Yeah, he's single now and probably

39:02

Jesus.

39:06

Man, I'm always praying for him. Man, that's a good friend of mine

39:09

for sure.

39:10

He was talking about his Vegas residency.

39:12

Ain't it crazy how these Vegas residencies

39:14

are no joke right now? Like

39:16

we need to be. It used to be like Vegas

39:19

residency. You looked at it like okay, you

39:21

know this person. But now it's

39:23

like it's.

39:25

Yeah, it used to be strikes.

39:27

Yeah, I mean Celine Dion had

39:29

like that Vegas residency that was you

39:31

know, but it wasn't for us necessarily

39:34

right. And then when we had a chance to see like

39:36

you know, Bruno Mars and Anderson Pack

39:39

and Wu Tang and now jo Toasy

39:41

and new addition Usher really changed the game.

39:43

Yea did change the game?

39:44

You know.

39:45

Did you see that show?

39:46

You know it's crazy. I did not, Okay,

39:48

and I can't.

39:52

I didn't.

39:52

I want to see new additions and I want to see, yes,

39:56

new editions in Vegas now.

39:57

Yeah, I can't wait.

40:00

That might be a good date night for you. Give

40:02

me something to do, go right on down to

40:04

Vegas.

40:05

We have to take our daughter as we got no baby shitter

40:08

nobody.

40:08

You don't let nobody watch the baby. But

40:11

you guys have family members.

40:13

Yeah, sure, sure, it's

40:15

not thing you.

40:16

All at those parents like nobody's.

40:17

I mean my mom for sure, but we don't

40:20

you know, push that on her. Would

40:22

love to though she loves to.

40:24

No, she does ever softer, But

40:26

my my daughter doesn't like go hang out and spending

40:28

the night at other kid's house.

40:29

Is that not you know I was talking about.

40:31

That's so I think that's the first kid thing.

40:33

Yeah, yeah, we did that.

40:34

That was like, oh, it's my first kid. By the

40:36

time y'all get to the third baby, you're gonna.

40:38

Be like, yeah, is

40:40

there anybody that can take this child?

40:44

The one time we did it, this was like a couple

40:46

of weeks ago. I swear to god, we tried it out. We

40:48

send it to our sister's house, send her to Dan's

40:51

wife and uh you know, Ange's

40:53

sweetest part.

40:53

They have great relationships. There are other kids at the house.

40:56

Man brought my daughter back sick oft dog and

40:58

my wife has been sick for two weeks.

41:00

Yep.

41:01

Well you know them kids always get when

41:03

they go to school, especially oh.

41:04

My god, this was serious. Those one of those like whooping

41:07

coughs.

41:07

Yeah, you know what I mean. They come back with all

41:09

types of six.

41:13

My parents would never let me spend the night at anybody's

41:15

house growing up, But everybody used to spend the night at my

41:17

house.

41:18

Come on over, our house is clean. We'll keep you clean

41:20

and send you home clean.

41:22

He's not going to get cleaner.

41:24

Yeah, and we learned our lesson.

41:26

I feel like that was like, I mean,

41:28

it was important for us to try, for sure, but we understand

41:31

with our daughter, especially like she's not

41:34

you know, no, she's not ready

41:36

for that.

41:36

You know, That's how I was with my daughter. I'm

41:38

telling right now, I don't know where my kids at right

41:42

now, I'm like, where, Well,

41:46

your.

41:46

Kids wrong though I feel like they

41:49

yeah, they.

41:49

Can, but when you have your third

41:51

kid, you're like, I tried, I

41:54

did everything.

41:55

You know what I wanted

41:57

to ask you to. With so many conversations about

42:00

marriage now and people being like off

42:02

of it, like I don't know if I need to be married, tell

42:04

us why it was important for you to be married and

42:06

why marriage is important to you.

42:08

Ah, man, that's

42:10

a good question.

42:12

When I first got married, I probably wouldn't have been

42:14

able to tell you that answer.

42:15

But marriage is important to me.

42:16

Now because it's a real agreement,

42:20

not just between me and my wife.

42:22

Up between me and my God, my family, you

42:24

know what I mean. And I.

42:29

Love this woman that way, you know what I

42:31

mean. A lot of people get married for the wrong reasons.

42:33

But I love this woman more

42:36

than I love anything, and should

42:38

be able to show her that with some

42:40

simple steps. Being married is a small step,

42:43

just a part of the contract. Doing the work is the hard

42:45

part, you know. But I'm

42:47

proud to be her husband. And I

42:50

lived my life like that.

42:51

You know.

42:51

I was sold when you said she had phone privileges,

42:53

because let me just tell you something.

42:56

The phone and these men with

42:58

the face down phone right.

43:01

And the and the protective

43:03

speed, the protective and

43:06

the dn D.

43:06

I let me tell you something.

43:08

Your phone ain't ringing?

43:09

His phone is it announces the person's name

43:12

out loud and somebody cross him.

43:14

That's funny. Phone ringing

43:17

twelve The phone.

43:17

Been silent for twelve egg, no one calling

43:20

you because every time I called you always on the phone.

43:22

And then having any phone right here and next to them,

43:25

the phone sleep with the phone. That's the best

43:27

feeling. When you're in a space where you can have my code,

43:29

I'm not doing nothing and I'm not like that's

43:31

a different feeling in a relationship.

43:34

You know, I think my wife

43:36

is is never She's never

43:38

been the type to even want to be all in my ship

43:40

like that, you know, and still is, you

43:42

know what I mean. But needed to feel comfortable,

43:45

you know what I mean, And that she took time. Fuck

43:47

man, it was a long time where she felt

43:50

the need to go.

43:50

Through my phone.

43:51

But I was gonna say, she probably don't even

43:53

look at your phone now because.

43:54

She phone

43:57

mins my daughter's right.

43:58

Nobody like, what's what's

44:00

hiding?

44:01

Yeah, she ain't not known Nickelodeon,

44:04

nickelodeon.

44:06

You know.

44:06

You know how many guys have gotten cauck because their

44:08

kids was on their phone and then the

44:10

baby mom grabbed the phone while it

44:12

was unlocked.

44:13

Yeah, is that a thing.

44:15

That's a thing.

44:15

I'm glad I don't have to worry about. That's

44:18

yeah.

44:19

Oh my god, opening the phone

44:21

face. I d want to sleep.

44:23

Like yo, that's

44:25

cool.

44:26

Oh yeah, if you did get caught, how

44:28

did you get caught?

44:30

I talked about it.

44:30

That was one thing that that it was never you know

44:33

what I mean. Of course she's seen some text messages.

44:34

She should up next message, you know for sure.

44:37

One time it was an iPad like she

44:40

was on my iPad and went through my messages

44:42

on my iPad, which are always you

44:44

know, when I thought I was being slick and deleted

44:46

on my phone.

44:47

Yeah, you can look there on my phone if you want.

44:49

But yeah,

44:52

I didn't know they stayed.

44:53

They wasn't up on technology.

44:56

Nothing is not a good

44:58

liar.

44:59

Yeah, those men aren't. I'm gonna

45:01

say that most mens can't lie.

45:03

They can't like people can tell you.

45:05

Women are sneakier than men, for

45:07

sure.

45:08

I'm much better at being honest now. And you

45:11

know she's she's

45:13

not stupid, you know what I mean.

45:15

It didn't take long before things was

45:17

a mess, and you know, we needed our time

45:20

in our space and I worked through my ship,

45:22

she worked through hers, and we met in

45:25

the middle and started over.

45:26

It was definitely a blessing for

45:28

y'all.

45:29

What song would you say on the album is about her

45:32

brighter? The last

45:34

song it feels that's like a

45:37

gospel type of feel to it.

45:38

Definitely, definitely, But yeah,

45:42

it's an old tar relationship, you know what

45:44

I mean. Things are heading in the right direction, and that's what the

45:46

album is. You notice we're starting a real bullshit place

45:48

with something like ignorant and we end up in a beautiful

45:51

place with ignorant journey.

45:54

It gets real heavy right after that, too.

45:57

Well, listen, I appreciate you so much for coming

45:59

through. This is really like, I feel like we

46:01

could talk to you for as money

46:03

long as say yeah, I get

46:06

to ask this ahead, Yeah, whatever

46:08

you need.

46:09

Your mom sings back back up for Michael

46:11

Jackson, that's true.

46:13

Did you ever meet Michael Jackson? Because I'm obsessed.

46:15

Never Now, one of the coolest

46:17

things about being in a musical family.

46:19

I'll leave you out with this story.

46:20

This was one of the coolest things that ever happened

46:22

my mom's sixtieth birthday. Now, mind you,

46:24

My mom grew up listening to you

46:27

know, the great Stevie Wonder, Prince Michael

46:29

Jackson, and idolized Stevie Wonder

46:32

in particular. For her sixtieth

46:34

birthday, my brother

46:36

Daniel got Stevie

46:39

Wonder to pull up to her birthday party, wow

46:41

and play my Sherrier more Oh my

46:44

God, sang Miss Jackie

46:47

onay. I

46:49

had my mom sing with him, oh Wow.

46:51

And then my brother Davean got Tyrese

46:53

to come on stage and sing to my mom

46:56

nice and I brought

46:58

Rudy the full the regular

47:03

Stevie Wonder and

47:05

Tyree's. So it was an interesting day.

47:07

We all laugh about that. But yeah, you

47:11

know, and that was a cool moment, you.

47:12

Know what I mean.

47:13

And you were in the studio with Stevie Wonder.

47:14

Yeah, a couple of times.

47:15

Are we ever going to hear any of those sessions?

47:17

No?

47:17

No, never. You need to get us

47:20

some cool things, not the

47:22

stuff. No, No, you should ask

47:25

him.

47:25

You know.

47:25

One of the cooler things that that I've

47:28

done was was, you know, work with Jill

47:30

Scott and that's when I met Stevie.

47:32

And so the first time I met him wasn't even the

47:34

studio session.

47:35

He just came to see miss Jill and literally

47:37

picked up a lap steal and played

47:39

it and sang songs in the quil life,

47:41

like six different songs on the lap

47:43

steal.

47:44

STEVEE wonders. I hate to be that guy to do the example,

47:47

but that's how.

47:48

Definitely like

47:50

that, like

47:55

skillfully too, just like man

47:58

when he said, at my mother sixty it.

48:04

Ste Wonder what I've

48:09

met Stevie Wonder once. It was we

48:11

were interviewing Hillary Clinton and

48:13

it was her birthday and he came and saying happy

48:15

birthday. I just want to say, that's a flex

48:18

Now. I would rather

48:20

have had my mom, you know what I'm saying,

48:23

have him say mushry or more from my mind,

48:26

that would have been even better. But you know, I take

48:28

what I can get. Yeah, And so that

48:31

was that was super exciting for me. Man.

48:33

Listen, honestly, sir, I have

48:35

always, like really been a fan of yours.

48:38

So I'm excited to see you in

48:40

this space. I know this album is an album

48:42

that means a lot to you and

48:46

is painful too, definitely.

48:48

You know, in a way, sometimes the best music

48:50

comes from pain. I know. We hate to say it. I

48:53

saw somebody say about Mary day Bliges,

48:55

like how she's happy in a relationship. They were like,

48:57

what, the music ain't going to be hidden? But no,

49:00

I hate when you do that. But

49:02

like when you think about Tony Braxton Amy Winehouse,

49:05

like some of the best music does unfortunately

49:09

it's therapy. You let it from that space.

49:12

Sure, and I'm happy to share the story.

49:13

I know a lot of people like are ashamed of themselves

49:16

and don't know how to talk about it. That's a big

49:18

thing in the community, like talking about it, you know

49:20

what I mean. But I'm definitely trying to help

49:22

the next person. I'm not trying to like hide my story

49:24

because my tragedy can be,

49:26

you know, help for somebody else. I'm trying to turn my tragedy

49:29

into a testimony for sure.

49:30

And what's great is it feels like a happy ending.

49:34

Not like that, but yeah, I

49:36

know it's service but he

49:39

likes hand jobs again. But it feels like a

49:41

happy ending because you are still with your wife,

49:44

you know, and you do have a body of work

49:46

that you were able to put together

49:48

even at times when you were at

49:50

your you know, at your worst, and

49:53

now you're going on tour and you

49:56

know. So I'm looking forward to seeing the

49:59

Are doubt me? Okay,

50:03

Well, don't doubt me. I'll be there. Yeah, and Kim

50:05

Kim is always my always roll

50:07

dog in New York and GIZI will be there in

50:09

Atlanta absolutely, Yeah, will be there. Absolutely

50:12

listen. I'll drop in your DMS now. So, Kelly,

50:14

I don't want now,

50:22

I appreciate. I know she's got to be amazing

50:24

though, because you know, just the fact that y'all

50:26

have been together so long. I know she's secure

50:28

and you know, her relationship

50:30

with you, and she knows we don't need no harm.

50:33

Will love Kelly. Y'all ain't gonna ever meet her, but y'all love her.

50:35

Yes, we will be right up

50:37

here on this count.

50:38

I think so.

50:42

Thank you so much, sir. We appreciate you so much.

50:45

And congratulations on everything, and I'm

50:47

so glad that things right now are brighter.

50:49

Thank you for having me.

50:50

Yes, congratulations, it's lift service