Richard Rohr, in conversation with Brie Stoner and Paul Swanson, continues the journey through the 7 Themes of the Alternative Orthodoxy. The sixth theme of the Alternative Orthodoxy introduces us to our primary teachers:  The path of descent is the path of transformation. Darkness, failure, relapse, death, and woundedness are our primary teachers, rather than ideas or doctrines. This theme can be heavy to hold in ourselves and bearing witness to the experience of others. Join us as we share personal stories on the path of descent, appreciate the gifts of vulnerability and forgiveness, hold our mortality with a loving gaze, and work towards detaching from the storylines that dictate or bind our growth. The transcript for this episode can be found here.Visit cac.org/podcast to listen to the first 3 seasons of Another Name for Every Thing   Visit universalchrist.org to learn more about the core themes of Richard’s book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe