Richard Rohr, in conversation with Paul Swanson and Brie Stoner, talk about the roles of awe and wonder play in the spiritual journey. This episode circles around the themes of creativity, music, humor, and the joy of mundanity in a Christ-soaked world. Visit cac.org/podcast to listen to season one of Another Name for Every Thing  Visit universalchrist.org to learn more about the core themes of Richard’s book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe This podcast is made possible, thanks to the generosity of our donors. If you would love to support the ongoing work of the Center for Action and Contemplation and the continued work of our podcasts, you can donate at cac.org/podcastsupport Thank you!--Embark on a spiritual journey through St. Teresa of Avila's Interior Castle with Jim and Mirabai Starr in their online course starting September 9th. To learn more, visit cac.org/interior