Anika and Liz beam down to Trill, don their finest red cloaks and hoods, and discuss the third episode of Star Trek: Discovery's season 5, "Janaal". Including...

• This is a perfectly fine episode, but it seems a shame to waste our limited time this season on something that is merely competent
• RIP Star Trek: Lower Decks
• Introducing the beta shift when fans are still under the impression that the alpha shift bridge crew should be the leads: brilliant trolling
• We have always been Wilson Cruz Appreciators, but we are appreciating him extra hard!
• We are concerned about Paul
• "Not to be a Rayner apologist, but I am definitely going to be a Rayner apologist."
• The Vulcan alt-right sure does endure! 
• Adira and Grey are cosplaying maturity (and that's okay)