An Ohio State-Michigan like never before

There has never been a game quite like this Michigan-Ohio State, dripping with storylines and intrigue. Ari Wasserman from The Athletic and the Until Saturday podcast joins AP’s Ralph Russo to talk about one topic that has many layers: Ohio State vs. Michigan. The sign-stealing scandal. What exactly will be Michigan’s punishment? Can Michigan really be punished? What’s at stake for Ohio State? What’s at stake for Ryan Day? What’s a more interesting result: Michigan winning or Ohio State winning?