If you've ever wondered how APIs change organizations, our communities and our society, look no further, this is the podcast you've been searching for. 

How we transform organizations is a complex problem. We need to explain emergence, and create the conditions that makes it much more likely for certain things to happen. Thinking that you can just import somebody else's model is, from a complexity perspective, fraught with difficulties that are hard to anticipate.

Discover together with us how APIs can help organizations to become more deliberate about their inherent complexity. Expect deep conversations with really smart guests, and discussions covering technological, sociological, and philosophical topics in the field of APIs, Platforms, Ecosystems, and complexity in general. 

Hosts are Kristof Van Tomme (CEO & Co-founder, Pronovix), and Marc Burgauer (Principal Consultant and Co-founder at Contextualise).

Intro music: Night Owl by Broke For Free, Creative Common Attribution

Transcript of the episode available here.