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You know what, yes is Appetite for Distortion. Welcome to the podcast Appetite

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for Distortion, Episode number four hundred and forty. My name is Brando.

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Welcome to the podcast, mister Biff Biffer from Saxon. How are you sure?

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That's great? Great to be there, that's great. Where are you

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calling in from? Now? Where are you zooming in from? I'm coming

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out problem at Yorkshire in England, Okay, a thousand miles away. Uh

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yeah, it's it's it's quite far away. I'm here in it's New York.

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He might have heard my little boy, you know, whining in the

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background. That's okay. But we're a real family friendly and international show here.

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So before we go into the new album, hell Fire and Damnation,

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I guess want to introduce you to my guest co host, because what I

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like to do on the show, Biff, is invite my listeners, invite

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fans to take part in these interviews, to give them the same opportunities that

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I have to interview their they're rock icons. So all the way from Slovenia,

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we have Robert on the line, So just say hi, Robert.

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Hi. Brandon Saibeef Oh I know, yeah, I'm your friend of forty

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years, right, so we're going to get some questions from Robert for you

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because you mentioned he's forty years a fan. I'm just forty years old,

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so I don't think I was a fan. It took me a few years

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to become a Saxon fan. But before we get into any only get there

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in the end, That's exactly. But it's maybe let's kind of start there

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almost at the at the beginning. And I'll give you credit, Robert,

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because here we are all these years later with the new album, and let's

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just go to the beginning in your early influences, right, Robert, what

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was the question? Is early influences for for what? What got you started

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along this path? Yeah, I would like to ask if what you what

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were your major influences where you were an up and coming band when we're open

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coming band. Well, I mean our influences probably not that before we were

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in basually you know, when we were sort of you know, twelve years

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old, thirteen years old, so uh yeah, our influences would be like

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the early bise music on America, you know, like early Rolling Stones and

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in something later on, you know, but some led Zeppelin, but very

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much the same CONTs that everybody else with it that was around at that time.

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Everything that was, you know, anti establishment and good rock music.

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That's what we wanted. Oh cool, Yeah, that's that's what we're all

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about it, anti establishment, damn the man, save the Empire. But

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could you imagine that both you and The Rolling Stones would have a new album

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out in twenty twenty four? Does that blow your mind? Well, I

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mean yeah, it was my mind that they've gone out. They must have

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been gone for sixty years, man, maybe no longer. Yeah, I

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mean they're they're they're a benchmark for the when you should retire, you know

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where they're watching the Rolling Stones. They're still going strong. So let's keep

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going. Yeah, what keeps you going? What's the main what's the one,

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like, the major motivation? Because this album has been so well received,

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it's not like it's just another album. People are saying, this is

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the best best Saxon in years. What motivates you? Is it to hear

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that kind of feedback? Well? Yeah, I mean we're we're song rights

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don't so that's what we do. So, you know, we were always

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trying to write the perfect song in the perfect album. I don't think you'll

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ever achieved that. Yeah, so we're so we like writing songs really,

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so it's always great when we write a bunch of songs that you know,

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become a magical together and make a great albums. And yeah, it's getting

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great reviews that ime go like it. They're saying it's our best album for

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years. Some people are saying it's our best album matter. So it's great

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for that, you know, twenty four albums and we're still you know,

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making songs are relevant for people, which is great. It is it is

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great, which is an understatement. And you just released a new single.

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There's something in Roswell, which you h you're talking about the story Roswell,

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New Mexico. Uh in Area fifty one. I guess do you in addition

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is just the stories? Do you yourself believe in aliens and and what exists

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out there or what else could exist out there? Other than it's kind of

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I'm a believer, I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm saying there is something

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I love. It's a good one. A lot. Definitely think there's something

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out there. Yeah, yeah, definitely fanatically, but yeah, you know,

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I'm saying I'm a believer in. Okay, other people think that was

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what I'm saying. Sure, Sure, but there are other people who take

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it the next step, like I think Sammy Hagar actually says he was had

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an alien encounter. So there are people who say they claim they've had alien

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encounters. It's so a little difference in believing, you know, I want

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to believe or want Yeah, we want to believe. We want to believe

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on the that's a great slogan. We want to believe. Yeah, you

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know, give people the benefit of the doubt, don't we have some aga

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says you have an encounter, then he able to have an encounter is not.

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I don't think there's going to lay about it, is it? So

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yeah, good put on in and another good uh phrase which I thought was

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really clever for you to use the name of the album, Health, Fire

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and Damnation. That's something that your dad used to say all the time.

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If that wouldn't start, he'd like to help. I'm demonation the job I

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was not starting again. So that's the context of the of the saying that

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I wanted to do a song about the good and evil, the procy of

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good and evil, push away, you know, and take a choice.

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What side the sound though, so you know that's what compted me to write

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that song right on. Uh, there was an robber. We go go

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to one of your your questions that you have down there for for bev.

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What's another? Yeah, a few more questions. I remember you guys performed

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in ninety eighty three. I was a teen at the famous Italian festival Ceremo

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if you remember, and how was your uh Sarremo festival in Italy in nineteen

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eighty three? Do you remember how it was that the experience for you?

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Yeah? Yeah, in nineteen eighty three, Yeah, you played You played

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one of my favorite songs, Nightmare. It's completely different audience it was where

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but I enjoyed so much, right, I played the Pound the Goal,

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Yeah, all the same Remo festival real, Yes, actually yeah, I'm

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with you now. Yeah, we did play We did play that. Actually,

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I wanted to play a pound the Glory for the Rector company wanted just

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to play Nightmare, so we did that. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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You know. I think it was groundbreaking for Chack beyond Italian season at the

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time, I think nearly the year after Van Mail ended it, so we

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obviously opened the door for the other bands to play that firstival. Yeah,

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I remember only band at the peak like Duran, Duran Queen, uh,

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Frankie Costas Hollywood. Yeah, Driel was there. Yeah, I mean,

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I men, some drinks were pretty great Ruel after the show. Yeah,

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and yeah it was a good son, you know. Yeah. Is there

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is there a difference between the way you used to prepare for a show like

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Biff nineteen eighty three Biff versus twenty twenty four Biff. Do you do any

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different or is it the same vocal exercises you've been doing all these years?

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How do you prepare prepare for a live performance. I don't really do any

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vocal exercise, and tell you the truth, I just think, well,

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I don't know. I don't go in called the the singing in the dressing

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room and make an actybody no notes, I don't. I don't do all

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that. Don't do that. So I just go out to the sing.

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Really, that's our music is a vocalle so society. So it's all r

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right. See, that's that's so impressive because when we talk about the Rolling

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Stones or any artist that's been around, a seasoned artist that's been around for

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a while, and uh, it's different. OK. If you're Keith Richards

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or Slash, you're playing an instrument. But if you're a Rose. Uh,

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if your job on Jovi, your voice may differ as the years go

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by. Have you found that that your your voice has become different over the

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years or you're just gifted. I think I think I'm to become better over

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the years up there. I think that I have a more power now in

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the lower register and I used to before. Uh. But yeah, I

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don't know why. Look at some post, I was hoping you'd tell me

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some secret, like, yeah, I like to eat bee pollen and I

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drink tea. Nothing like that. There's no no, there's no there's no

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trying. Yeah, it's just at the moment. Uh, you know my

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voice, So what about just uh? I mean maybe it's the same thing

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for the rest of your body, because being on tour, being on stage,

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that's still a physical workout. Do you hit the treadmill? Do you

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go to the gym before a big tour because you got some you know,

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a big European tour coming up with priest and your ayah heap and then coming

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back to the States. How do you prepare her that way. Physically,

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Yeah, I get my stomach, you know, do a boxing exercise generally.

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Yeah, yeah, so I'm starting to do it now actually, you

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know, exercise more and do more, you know, physically get a stummin

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adults. So yeah, yeah, they're going on a diet and generally trying

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to get myself bucking shop for the little Well, you're starting off in Europe

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for a massive tour with your Ayah Heap and Juwus Priest. I would love

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to know how far. I mean, you guys obviously go back a long

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time. Do you remember the first time perhaps you met Jews Priest, your

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first encounter with Rob Halford, because you guys mest some friends for a long

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time. Yeah, I think the first fustament you're a Christian nineteen eighty when

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we toured with them in Europe, but it was the first time we've never

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been to Europe. And uh, I think they were on British Steal album

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and we were on Well Steal, so it was definitely a steel too.

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But yeah, I think we didn't. I think we did. Uh.

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I did more to read in the UK and then we went straight into Europe

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with Judis Poets sewing at them then, and we used to do a lot

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of TV shows with them, you know, the the rope shows, and

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we was at chow and back them about. You're right, but I didn't

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really need them much back in the day because you know, when they were

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big, we weren't really uh in the heyday. You know what early albums,

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what sixty nine would you come out? We used to go see them

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play live. Uh heby didn't actually meet the guys from film following you know,

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the nineties, you know, right on, and you're taking your rye

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heap uh back with you to the US. Uh later in what May April

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dates May, you're coming to my neck of the woods. I mean I

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said them in Queens but you'll be playing Long Island May seventh at the Pat

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Shark Theater, which is a nice little theater. It's a nice little theater.

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Uh. Do you have any favorite states to go to in the US,

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any part of the country that you like visiting the most? Were at

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all? I mean, you know, it's it's all down to people checking

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out the new album and then getting a copy or streaming it and then live

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really and then we have a lot of hot coal funds in the US,

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especially on the East coast. So yeah, we're looking forward to it.

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But I don't think there's any place we like to play more than anywhere else.

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They don't pretty good, you know, and obviously in Texas will probably

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big up outside Babies Area, Texas, but the nice people learning about how

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big the venue is. It's about how many people come to see you having

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a great time, you know, and if they're staying on the new album,

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that's what they're coming for. What's your favorite part of performing a new

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album? Is it to see the fans' reactions to these new songs? Is

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it to play something different than perhaps your biggest hits. What's what are you

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most excited about playing these new songs live? Well, I'll think you those

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I think I think both those reasons. H uh. You know, if

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you want to play the new songs because you know, you get off on

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the new songs. They're cool, and you want to see people's reactions to

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them, you know, you want to see you want to look out into

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the audience and see how many people have got the new album. And it's

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always sixty rides. But yeah, you know, the bigs were like playing

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them as well, and you know that'll remember them that part of the DNA

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or sort of saxon. So you know, a lot of people the song

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get but not a lot of people know who looks who performs it. So

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you know it's it's a great point of trying because we'll get to play in

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front of our fans and obvious says some new fans as well. Oh and

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you That leads to, Robert, was one of your questions with with new

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I guess new band, new songs, new bands. What was your question about new bands for for Biff? Yeah, Biff, is there a newer

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band in the last let's say twenty years that you hold in a highery guard

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or to really appreciate. Uh, yeah, there's fans we say it's a

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long time. They're not new bands anymore of it. But yeah, I

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think I think I got like Burnham, which is you know, no female

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band pretty good. Obviously a lot of them in the mouth that fans of

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mine, Josh pretty cool. You know we all those guys as well.

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So yeah, there's some great bands around that. You said in a recent

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interview that sorry, go ahead, Robert, what do you want to don't

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care for the future for a role I think I'll think the picture is looking

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more like there's lots of bands doing well, you know, social media these

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days, to get to get seen, to get heard. So you know,

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hopefully people will check check a band out on the tunebol well, please

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poke or and then and then by the album, you know, and support

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the band. When all these new bands who are the future of local role

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or metal or heavy local urban you want to pull it, they only supporting.

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So you know, it's important that somebody likes the band, they should

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involved them, join their family and support the band. Yeah. Absolutely,

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And one of one of the things that we do here. I mean you

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may have been able to tell by the name of the podcast, appetite for

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the story, it's a guns n' Roses themed. It's just a nice little

17:03

hook. So it's not just a generic metal podcast or rock podcast. What

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I call six degrees of gn R Bacon. I've never if you, I'm

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not sure if you've heard that six degrees of Kevin Bacon phrase where you make

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the connection. So I do that with with I do that with G and

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R. I'm sorry, go ahead, I keep cutting you off. Sure,

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okay, So there's a six degrees of Kevin Bacon where you can connect

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any actor ever to Kevin Bacon within six steps. So I just put my

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own spin on that. With Guns n' Roses, so I've been. You

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know, even if you're people who you don't think are have any connection to them, I find them. So I'm not sure what you're if you have

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any connections though to Guns and Roses. Have you met any of the guys?

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Have you ever seen them in concert? I'm just curious. I've met

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I've met Crush times and I've met on numerous occasions, So yeah, I've

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met. I've met the original drummer as well a few times. Interest I've

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met Did you just meet Stephen Adler? Did you just meet Slash and Duff

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at festivals or were they jams? I met I Metsh at the radio stage

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nightfill in in Sweden the first time at Slash. The I've met Slashed the

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first download first of all, which is their all Monsters first. Yeah,

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okay, Stephen, I met Stephen. I think I mentioned the cruise cruise

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should be wrong okay, and the parallel here. I met the other drummer

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as well, Matt. So yeah, I've been to the studio okay,

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but I saw a song this sin it was doing this album and I sign

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and shown there with the Sebastian back. Okay, ok it was a great

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connection, assume. Okay, so we found the six degrees because the one

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I was thinking of is that you guys the landmark beginning of this British wave

19:22

of heavy metal, and then you had that landmark album of Appetite for Destruction,

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both of you changing the genre for the better. Do you remember what

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your thoughts were at the time nineteen eighty seven when Appetite came out where so

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much? Yeah? I those at the time it was a fantastic album.

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I show them. The first time I saw them was I saw them.

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I saw video, like I thought, a basic video of them doing Welcome

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to the Jungle. I think on TV in the market it has been on

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TV at the time, and showing this it's a fantastic song to the Jungle.

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I think they did. I think they did a more more people and

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later on much but yeah, I think the one answer was like a lion

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more of a lion video. It was a fantastic album. If you told

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they were going to be a huge, huge band, Were you a fan

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of that era because you had the the the the eighties met I wasn't a

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massive front of the era, but I did like that. I did like

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they were different to what was happening in that time. You know. Sure,

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And that's what's great about Saxon because you guys have stuck. You know,

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You've you've lived through so many different uh just like phases of rock,

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and you've kept it consistent. You've kept it going so obviously successful. So

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just before we go back to the album, I'm just your thoughts on shortly

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after that grunge. What did you think of when grunge came out and that

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style like some good I thought it was a bit more basic than where we

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were. Uh So, I thought it was pretty good. Actually, I

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mean I like pil John and Hairvana, you know, quite aggressive, catchy

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stuff. You know, it's like men musically at it's pretty cool. Uh

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So, yeah, I thought it might it. Uh you know, I

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don't think it really impulse as a lot, but it sort of sort of

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give us the give us a little bit of a kick off the backside,

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you know that it's not all about you know Victorius and huge, huge sound.

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Yeah, you know music family, but basic and uh, I think

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we learned a little bit from that and went back to a more h rooms

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from what week? Okay, because I was going to ask that if you

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were ever never tempted to change who you are or the sound, but whether

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whatever was quote unquote cool at the time to ever maybe change or just alter

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to kind of fit in more with that that time period. But I don't,

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I don't. That doesn't seem like the case with you. Well,

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I don't think musically they did much. I think maybe the look at the

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battle might have done a bit hairy, and I had a bit of hairspray.

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Man. I think musically pretty much said the same earlier. You know,

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but that was the MTV games. You like to you know, I

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think you like to look a certain way. Really, it was pretty good

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fun then, it was all It was all taken in good fun. I

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mean there was the better hair than you had, that's true. Well I'm

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bald, so they all have better hair than me. And I'm jealous of

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you. I mean, you still got those you know, beautiful if you're

22:47

a silver fox, you have those long gray locks. So got the locks,

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so you know, keep your fingers trucked. Oh, what's the out

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of all the tracks on the new album, hell Fire and Devnation, what

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have you been most excited for fans to hear? Like being like, this

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is the song that I've been trying to make for years and finally it is.

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Well. I think I think they got through the great songs them them

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with the first video API Domination, and then h something in as well.

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I mean, unliking Madam Gibberty is a pretty close song. Uh yeah,

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it's just be a favorite iron Shield grades as well. It's small, fast,

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more fast, and I mean every song has something definitely h you know,

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I don't think you can really picked more on that better than the next one. I think they're all pretty pretty great songs we've written like that.

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That's why I think the album's a bit magical, because every song is great.

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Really, it's as close to a perfect Saxon record as there ever has

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been. And that's not just me saying, and that's just many of the reviews. I mean, congratulations just so much on just all your success and

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this brand new success, h that I don't see you slowing it down anytime

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soon. We we we, you know, we won't. There was one

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people to check it out especially and the studies. Now it's a great album

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and able to check it out and every thing like that can buy into it

24:23

and join the family that you know, we have a lot of fans in

24:26

the Manica, you know from the eight tues. We got a lot of

24:30

new fans that go into on the last tours that just done before the pandemic.

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So yeah, we've been waiting to come back to a Malica and they're

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finally coming. So let's make the best of it. Absolutely and you can

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find out everything about Saxon. You can order the album at Saxon seven four

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seven dot com. Robert, do you have any other final questions before Biff

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before we let them go? Yeah? One from the eighties, you guys

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covered one measured international kid by Christopher Cross, right like a Wind, which

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lack way more your version than the original. Did it help it a bit

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in that part of your career? Right like a wind? All right,

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right, the winds? So yeah, we we like Christopher Cross. We

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went this album, I mean the album with the Tomindos on. But you

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have some great songs on there, and you know named Poul quinn uh Suld

25:33

of transport that song coming like a jazzy, jazzy rock pop song into like

25:41

you know a Saxon or Mad c DC Come Deep Purple, you know rock

25:47

song. Really so people love that version. You know, if we didn't

25:52

play that song in South America, we get lynched in such a big song

25:56

down there. So yeah, you know, when we're gonna play it live,

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sometimes people shout for it, we'll play it, you know, good

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question, Robert, I like that. Uh, Biff, just thank you

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so much for your time again in congrats on the new album, good luck

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on the tour, stay safe, and I hope we get to do this

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again. Yeah, it'd be great. I mean I'm sure live the body

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looking out and the brilliant Bushy all there. Yeah, you got it,

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Take care, Biff, All right, Roberts, how is how is that?

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Was that fun? Your your first experience? If I could see beef

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would be another story. But it's so great. You know, this is

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first time and we really like it. Yeah, we're always hoping for video

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as well. It happens he was having a storm in his area of Yorkshire,

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so he was a little afraid if he was using too much power things

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were going to cut off. So it's all good going back to the beginning

27:03

of the podcast, where I just did the audio version of these, but

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wherever you listen, I always put everything up on YouTube. You just watch

27:11

pictures instead of instead of a video. So that's all good, and maybe

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we'll get biff On again with the video. But either way, we got

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the six degrees of GNR Bacon out of them meeting Slash and Duff and Storm

27:25

and Adler. I love it. I definitely I love it. And so

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it's almost like Kevin Bacon, Guns of Roses connects to everybody. But before

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we get out of here, Robert, let's do this like a fan obsession

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segment, because Robert is a fan, not just of Saxon, not just

27:45

some Guns of Roses. But I sheper, I humbly say me as well.

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In the podcast. You were saying before that you've been following the podcast

27:55

Appetite for Distortion when we really didn't have many likes. It was like the

27:59

beginning thing of just like you know, seven eight years ago, and I

28:04

was desperate for content at the time, and you were sending me paintings that

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you do of actual are they not? You weren't sending me actual were showing

28:15

me pictures of your paintings are yours? Are there places where people can see

28:19

them? Because they're really like you're on my on my it's all on my

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instant account Robert public dot com dot art or Rubert public Art, okay,

28:36

which we like it. So then on my on my Twitter with the same

28:41

name. It's a little less it's but the main the main party is on

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Instagram Robert public Art. So if you're curious, I'm going to put that

28:55

link in the bio and summary of the episode. And since we don't have

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video of Biff, we'll just put your paintings over this portion here. So

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I mean, just beautiful paintings. And it's just very cool to give to

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share this opportunity with you, just like I did the last episode with Max

29:18

and that the Jeff Beers the listener, Jeff Beers from Michigan, just to

29:22

be able to give somebody else an opportunity that I'm given. I look at

29:26

this and might go out an interview Biff from Saxon. You know, I

29:30

want to be able to share this experience. So I always say to follow

29:34

the podcast in between the broadcasts. You never know what you may miss because

29:40

I put out the opportunity out there on Facebook. I said, upcoming interviews

29:44

with Max Cavalleira Byford, anybody want to co host with me? And what

29:48

happened? Jeff DMed me, Robert you DMed me, And look at this

29:55

where you have this experience under your belt, so I don't always put it

30:00

told you in my first assal reportrait was posted on the official Facebook page way

30:07

back in the day where they was putting on a fun art and it has

30:15

one hundred thousands likes. It's it's my least favorite, but still it's not

30:22

bad. No, but they don't do it anymore. But it was a

30:26

nice experience for me, you know, yeah back when gn RS social media

30:32

was a little bit more fain interactive, but you know's yeah, did you

30:37

get to before because this is obviously GNR podcast, let's talk about this because

30:42

it just happened. Did you get to see the new video for the general

30:48

Yeah? I like it? Okay, so you do? So as an

30:52

artist, how do you feel about AI? Are you a fan of AI?

30:56

Yeah? I don't know. It's a mixed motion. I like more

31:04

organic stuff, you know, painting from the scratch and finishing it up.

31:12

Computer work doesn't fit for me like digital painting stuff, I don't like it.

31:18

I don't know. I know. It's not that I don't like it.

31:21

I don't like it for myself. And I like the all the way,

31:26

you know so, but I do like the video. It's different and

31:30

the song which was which was? Can I say some some didn't like it?

31:45

I would say most fans didn't like it. And I put that on

31:48

social media. And it's not just me saying this about my fan base.

31:52

What they're saying. I'm looking. I'm not looking at it also just blabbermouth

31:56

where everything they post or you know, these certain sites where the comments section

32:02

is just very toxic. I'm looking everywhere. I'm looking at their social media.

32:07

I'm looking at YouTube comments, Instagram. I'm taking it all in and

32:12

it seems like the majority it's it's not as it's not. It's really not

32:16

favorable. I would say, however, because I did, I had to

32:21

do two review episodes talking about the general because it's it's not it's not just

32:25

good or bad like you just can't. I don't think that's you can say

32:29

that. It has grown on me every time I've listened to it. It

32:34

does good, does get stuck in my head, the part, especially where

32:38

he goes, I don't know what to tell you now. I never really

32:43

know what to tell you now. Like that part where it's kind of like a breakdown of it. I really dig that part of it. I like

32:51

it's it's grown on me. It gets stuck on my head. So I really have grown to appreciate it more and would love to hear it next to

32:58

other songs and kind of take that journey. But with the video, I

33:02

don't hate the video, but there's so much going on. I felt like,

33:07

if you have epilepsy, I don't, you may have a seizure watching

33:14

this video. There's just so much going on. And I will give respect

33:20

to its creative works London, who does all their graphic art. When you

33:24

go to see GNR in concert, the screens in the back, that's all

33:28

creative works London, and it's done well. I mean very cool, very

33:31

creative, very innovative. And I think AI in the right hands with the

33:36

human touch, which set this is what it sounds like, could be very

33:39

cool. It can maybe help you come up with things that you would not

33:44

have thought of. So I think I only watched it once. I'll have

33:47

to smoke a lot of weed before the next time I watch it again because

33:51

there's just so much. There's so much going on, But I think it's

33:55

very cool to have now with this band that we didn't know what was going

34:00

on, to have the general this rumored song is real now this AI generated

34:07

video which is on the cusp of you know, the new They're not just

34:10

making this. You watch some of these old eighties bands, they're making the

34:15

same video they've been making since the eighties over and over again, and it

34:17

looks terrible. So it's they're not doing that. But with GINR has such

34:25

set such a high president with their videos, and I'm not saying they need

34:30

to do an another November Rain or Estranged, but I would love to see

34:37

them acting or performing in a video, not just the live like what you

34:44

see live taken out of it, like what they did with Sweet Child of

34:46

the Mind or Yesterday's where it's like they're performing the song just for that video.

34:52

It's something I would like to see, but that's I'm not really going

34:57

to get up in arms about it. I'm happy with what they I'm fine

35:02

with what they did. I think it's cool. However, it seems to

35:06

be. Fans seem to be more excited about this. So Slash, in

35:10

the kickoff concert in Mexico City with Miles Kennedy and the Conspirators, debuted a

35:17

song that Guns and Roses has never played live, Don't Damn Me? And

35:23

yeah, oh so you don't even know Guns and Roses have never played Don't

35:29

Damn Me live. Slash, with Todd Kerns on vocals, did Don't Damn

35:36

Me Live and it was so well received, And one of the fans got

35:42

the set list from Miles and he actually posted the video or Miles handed them

35:46

the set list, and we're next to Don't Damn Me? So what's what's

35:52

we're gonna follow this tour? I want to do reviews of the Slash tour

35:55

on this podcast for alternates Perfect Crime, I'm and Bad Apples, two other

36:02

songs that Guns and Roses don't do. So wow. So I don't know

36:08

does this mean that because Slash seems like I want to play these songs?

36:14

Does Axel not want to play these songs? Can he not do these songs?

36:19

Because Perfect Crime must be very hard to sing. So it's it's a

36:23

it's interesting, it's it's definitely an interesting that thing that came about that like,

36:28

really Slash is playing Don't Damn Me after all these years? Uh,

36:32

And I did ask Todd Kurrns, we don't I don't know when it's gonna

36:36

happen, but from the road, we're gonna get him on the podcast and

36:38

we're going to talk about Don't Damn Me him singing it, and what did

36:44

he say? He tweeted back to me, He's like, it's I'm not

36:46

gonna be able to find the tweet, uh, because I have too many

36:50

tweets going on. Uh that it's harder that He's like, it was hard.

36:53

It was harder than you would think, which he made it look easy.

36:58

So I'm curious just to hear what he has to say about it. So even though this there's stuff going on in the Guns and Roses world,

37:06

that's it's it's great. It's it's it's awesome. Uh yeah, So go

37:12

listen to that, Robert, go online, listen to Todd currents. Dude,

37:15

don't damn Me. Let me know what you think. But before I get you out of here and wrap up this episode, what I always get

37:22

from fans from when they come on the podcast is a two. I want

37:27

to ask two questions. Uh, favorite Guns and Roses song? Do you

37:30

have one? Or I've always said guns and Roses never never do a bit,

37:38

never did, never ever did a bad song. Even the weakest song

37:45

is among among the brig But okay, I'm a bit tired of the hits.

37:52

U. So it's had to say about my favorite night train night train

38:00

close to you could be mine. It depends on the mood. Maybe you

38:06

could be mine, and then night train. But nightra I can listen still

38:09

today. It's great, great agreed lyrics. That was probably lyrics my first

38:16

of the lyrics at the Have you ever tried night train to drink? Have

38:23

you ever had it? Not here in Europe? Unfortunately? Okay, I've

38:29

I mean, I'm sober now with alcohol, but I don't I don't know,

38:31

I've never had it. I mean, growing up, I just thought

38:34

it was about taking a train at night. What did I know as a

38:38

kid. It's a wine or what or something? It's a wine, yeah,

38:44

very cheap wine. Where cheap wine? Yeah? Which is the best

38:50

wine? Sometimes? Uh? And what about do you have a favorite piece

38:53

of Guns and Roses memorabilia? Maybe it's one of your own paintings. Yeah,

39:01

yeah, yeah, that's all. I think. There's the books.

39:07

H I don't know, yeah, probably my pain drinks, I don't know

39:12

what not. I don't have money. Really, that's okay, that's fine.

39:16

The memory is well, let me ask you because it's uh you you

39:21

asked me off the era. I don't know if I have another listener from

39:23

Slovenia. I've had from Slovakia. I've from like all over all over the

39:30

world, like it's Portugal, Australia, Canada, I mean, France,

39:36

Mexico, all over. It's I'm so grateful for it. What shows,

39:40

because what I like? What's interesting? Because I'm so being here in New

39:44

York. We're so jaded. Do we get every concert? Any band will

39:49

come here? Like when have you seen guns and Roses? And is it

39:52

hard for you to, you know, go see a show? Do you

39:55

have to travel far? Yeah? Yeah, I actually m m the probably

40:05

two hundred miles. Wow, it's it was. It was the closest closest

40:09

to me two hundred miles or even more depends, you know. But I

40:15

remember living in the USA. It's all easy that on Long Island clubs,

40:21

Like like I said, you may you meet people there way easier. Uh

40:27

you know they live there, that's right. You have a few family on

40:30

Long Island, right, yeah, Long Island in uh Hantington, Glen Cob

40:37

and uh yeah, I mean I miss I missed that those days going going

40:44

out and as I told you before over the record, meeting Frank Bellow,

40:52

Dave Ellison, Megadd Sconeague and h people like that, going the show is

40:58

back in the day on Long Island. Yeah, yeah, they're all they're

41:01

all local, you know, Brooklyn, New York. You know people are.

41:06

It's easier to you to meet people there. So I don't now I

41:10

really have to speaking to people like you and just different areas of the world.

41:15

I don't take it for granted that we have all these shoes. So

41:19

I've let the slash whenever he's coming to town, I'm just like, next

41:22

time, next time. I've been taking it for granted. So next time

41:25

Slash and that the miles and they all come to the US, I'm taking

41:30

Baby Brownstone, taking my wife. We're going. I can't wait. I

41:35

remember the last time I was there and walking down Manhattan and the great the

41:42

Big Billboard on Madison Square, Garden, the firewell tour by Motley Crew.

41:47

Now they returned anyway in twenty fourteen. Oh, did you have the final

41:55

tour? No, yeah, the first final tour actually, but I remember

42:01

that I had took picture okay in New York. So you can, you

42:06

can, you can, you can see anything, you know, you can

42:08

see. You're just a matter of decide where to go. You you along

42:15

Island, New York? Great, yeah, very lucky. There's always shows

42:22

playing around and uh, you know, it'll be fun because I now I

42:24

feel like I'm too old to be going to all these shows. But once

42:28

my son gets older, I want to experience all that with him. So

42:32

yeah, and actually my my son's leaving the and with my wife leaving the

42:37

country next month to go see Dave Matthews in Mexico. So that's that'll be

42:43

interesting. And know then we're going next year. I'm actually gonna make my first trip across the pond. I'm going to London to see Dave Matthews,

42:51

to see day Oh, I know you're seeing Dave Matthews. I'm just gonna be oh yeah, good now, I obvious gonna be staying back in the

42:55

hotel room with the baby, playing guns and roses on my my laptop for

43:00

him while she sees Dave Matthews in London. London. Yeah, we're wanted

43:07

to see Dave. Well, we're gonna we're gonna be sight seeing and doing

43:12

things. But that's the main motivator, is to go for to go see

43:16

Dave Matthews. I think we might have picked somewhere else other than London.

43:20

No offense to London, but I don't know. Maybe somewhere warmer. No,

43:23

I don't know, but not but not but they know about him here.

43:29

See that again, nobody knows about Dave Mitthew's nobody. Nobody knows about

43:34

Dave Matthews and Slovania. Okay, no, really, I don't know.

43:40

I heard about him. But we've got a clue. What what kind of

43:45

music does he play or anything? It's a jam band, the kind of

43:51

stuff, yeah, jam band, folk, folk, jam band rock.

43:55

I don't know. That's as I always to say, as obsessed as I

44:00

am with guns of roses, I mean, I look at me, I'm on a podcast. My wife spends like sixty Dave Matthew shows like it's really

44:07

Yeah, I respect your passion. I respect the passion. Yeah sure,

44:14

yeah, sure, so that that does it. She's given me the love

44:17

slash stinkye because I got to go watch baby brown Stump before the baby our

44:22

babysitter gets here. So that's it. That does it for this episode.

44:29

Robert, thank you for coming on the podcast. I know there are a

44:32

lot of international fans of the podcast that are afraid of coming on because of

44:37

their accents. Robert, you show them that you do not need to be

44:40

afraid because of your accent. I mean, Biff had an accent, I

44:45

got the New Yorker accents. Sure, we're here just having We're all here

44:51

friends talking about rock and roll and guns of roses. So no pressure.

44:55

Yeah, to be honest, I didn't understand how the things U he said,

45:00

you know at the audio and the all send of beef, so I

45:06

should release and listen. But next time, when you're in White Testament,

45:10

let me know. Okay, yeah, so you'll be uh. So I

45:15

put it out there again. So whenever I get an episodes sometimes I can

45:20

have a co host with me. So if I ever get anybody from Testament,

45:24

you have that reserved. But meanwhile, everybody else, lookout social media,

45:30

Facebook dot com, slash, the AFT podcast or the AfD Show at

45:34

the AFT podcast on Twitter. Basically all my links are in the link free

45:38

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45:44

clips and videos all the time. So the AfD Show at gmail dot com,

45:49

the email me and if even if you have a guest suggestion and it

45:52

works out, you were able to co host that with me. That's the

45:55

finder's fee is to be my co host. So until next time, until

46:00

the next episode, when will you see it? When will you hear?

46:05

And take care of you got it. In the words of Axl Rose concerning

46:07

Chinese democracy, I don't know as soon as the word, but you'll see

46:12

it thanks to the lame ass security. I'm going home.