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Well, now that everyone's bracket

1:05

is busted, and Wolf,

1:07

I know your bracket is busted, like

1:09

like JaMarcus Russell was a bust once upon

1:12

a time, like Trey Lance,

1:14

Zach Wilson, Ryan Lee were all bus

1:17

The good news is Wolf that now it's

1:19

time to return to talking football.

1:22

Okay, Yeah, Paulie, And it wasn't my

1:24

bracket, by the way, it was BPI's.

1:26

I see, even though I nailed Duquane

1:28

over BYU Ding. The real march

1:30

madness is the NFL

1:33

off season, if I dare say so my

1:35

own self over here. Last week we had the

1:37

free agency frenzy. This week the

1:39

pro days are out there, all tracking towards

1:42

next month. In the NFL Draft, it

1:44

is the Big Red Rage with Paul

1:46

calvic Ron Wolfley, and we're

1:48

putting the big in the Big Red Rage tonight, Bill

1:50

Loll Nichols, the free agent

1:53

defense Rymon gonna join us

1:55

and we'll talk about being one of those big

1:57

boys in the trenches, all presented by Santana

2:00

and Ford and Gilbert. We are santan

2:02

Ford and wolf We'll get to Baalal Nichols

2:04

here momentarily. But at least

2:06

now, if you had to play a game, Boom, you are armed

2:08

and ready along that defensive line, are you

2:11

not?

2:11

No, you gotta feel really good about those

2:14

moves. Right there are a couple of pros, Paulyly

2:16

and Justin Jones, of course, and Balale

2:19

Nichols. Those two guys. Listen,

2:21

we all know the Arizona Cardinal's number thirty

2:23

two in rushing yards per game allowed

2:26

those two guys are going to go a long long

2:28

way in tightening up that line

2:30

of scrimmage. That's exactly what they needed.

2:32

You know what. Jonathan Gannon maniasin Ford

2:35

met the media this week and

2:37

Mani said, look, durability

2:40

was definitely a part of the equation, no doubt,

2:43

and in signing these free agents

2:45

there, it was intentional in that they

2:48

found guys based on the film that fit the

2:50

scheme of Nick Rollis

2:52

and Jonathan Gannon. Jonathan Gannon,

2:54

by the way, he was asked about the free

2:56

agents and how many guys cited the culture and his

2:58

energy and sort of the fuel vibe, and he joked

3:01

Jonath again. He said, yeah, Well, they'll be singing

3:03

a different tune when I get him out on the field and

3:06

I start running him around in the off season.

3:08

So we're gonna hear from maniasa Fort, We're gonna

3:10

hear from Jonathan Gann. In fact, we'll hear from Jonathan

3:12

Gann a little bit later on Sean Murphy

3:14

Bunting, who I don't think is really getting enough

3:17

play right now, and as we surmised he is

3:19

a JG guy. But let's stop.

3:21

Let's start with the top of the draft here, because

3:24

Mani asin fort. I don't know if he was talking

3:26

to the media or if he was talking to the rest of the

3:28

NFL, but here's what he said

3:30

about whether he's been getting calls or not

3:32

at number four overall.

3:34

You know, i'd say those phone calls are starting to pick up

3:36

a little bit, you know. I would say they'll

3:38

probably continue into next

3:40

week when we go down to Florida for the owners

3:43

meetings. I would imagine some of those conversations

3:45

will continue to pick up, you know, But honestly,

3:48

they probably will not get real serious

3:50

until we get right up until the

3:53

week of the draft, similar to last year.

3:56

And I asked him as a fob, Okay, how much

3:58

of the groundwork is done leading up to if

4:00

indeed you're going to pull a trade all like you

4:02

did twice in the first round last

4:05

year. And he said, yes, absolutely, you

4:07

do lay a lot of the groundwork, but perhaps

4:09

you don't always get your best offer until

4:11

you're on the clock.

4:12

Yeah. No, you're right about that, poly Bud. To

4:15

answer your earlier speculation

4:17

on this, there's no doubt he was talking

4:19

to the rest of the league. Ball. You

4:22

know what, I hate that. There's the media. That's great, I'm

4:24

going to get up in front of the media. But tis

4:26

the season, Bali, you know it the

4:29

season of supterfuge right

4:31

now, the new league year. Every

4:33

time that comes around, that really

4:36

kicks it off for me. The free agent period

4:38

that follows the new league year, of course,

4:40

and then Bata bang bata boom here comes

4:43

the draft. Tis the season, And

4:45

that's exactly what he's doing. He's trying to

4:47

talk to the rest of the league and let them know what

4:50

they're thinking. And their thinking

4:52

is we are open for business

4:54

at number four, because why would you

4:57

ever limit yourself as to

4:59

your options.

5:00

Just over a month out from the NFL

5:02

Draft, can I say that the Arizona Cardinals

5:05

are at the epicenter of where

5:08

this draft turns, at the pivot point,

5:10

if you will. If QB is

5:12

going one, two three, and since Chicago

5:14

went in and got rid of Justin Fields, it certainly

5:17

appears quarterbacks going one, two

5:19

three, maybe this draft really starts

5:21

at number four.

5:22

Yeah, no, you're right about that, Pauli. It does appear

5:25

that way right now. Now, Now, appearances

5:27

can change, there's no denying that, right.

5:29

But you know, when you think about

5:31

it, one, two, three, we all assume those

5:34

three quarterbacks are going to go right there.

5:36

The draft starts at number four,

5:39

and you know this is something you and

5:41

I have gone back and forth on, Pauli and

5:44

whether or not you're going to trade out at number four,

5:46

and whether you should trade out at number four,

5:48

and maybe you should just stay there and take a guy

5:50

like, Oh, I don't know Marvin Harrison

5:53

Junior. And I'm in the danger

5:55

zone on Marvin Harrison Junior. But I

5:58

honestly, the closer we get to

6:00

the draft, paul I think there's gonna

6:02

be a level of desperation for

6:05

one NFL team to get

6:07

a quarterback. They're gonna give Moni

6:09

Asin for basically the moon

6:12

at number four.

6:13

And for that reason, I do not

6:15

have my heart set on Marvin Harrison Junior,

6:18

because I just think another team is

6:20

gonna make up the mind for Monti Austin for They're

6:23

gonna make him an offer he can't

6:25

refuse. And he was asked

6:27

as a follow up, Okay, what

6:29

do you mean are you? How open are

6:32

you exactly when it comes to dealing

6:34

that pick at number.

6:35

Four, it'll be a big neon

6:37

sign that says open and we'll I

6:39

don't think. I don't like it blink and that kind

6:41

of messes with my eyes. But yeah, we're we're

6:44

always gonna be listening. We'll always

6:46

have the conversation, whether it's at four

6:49

or anywhere we're picking, but we're always

6:51

going to have the conversation. And if it makes sense

6:53

and if it's attractive to building

6:56

our team, it's something that we'll certainly

6:58

consider no matter where we're at in the draft.

7:00

I just think one of those teams is

7:02

going to make him an offer that's irresistible,

7:05

that'll be a no brainer.

7:06

Like Paul, if you had to pick one, which one would

7:08

that be? Right now?

7:10

Well, if it's Minnesota and it's eleven to twenty

7:12

three, which they have, Okay, honestly, I

7:14

don't think that's enough. I know eleven and twenty

7:16

three on the Jimmy Johnson Trade value chart equates

7:18

exactly to somewhere between three and

7:20

four. That's not enough because there are three other

7:23

teams who are going to want number four, and there's

7:25

a quarterback surcharge. I'm throwing a quarterback

7:27

kicker into this. And then on top of that, Look

7:29

what happened last year. You thought you were going

7:31

to get a top five, top ten pick and then all

7:33

of a sudden, The risk is that you end up

7:35

with number twenty seven overall, like you

7:37

did with CJ. Stroud coming out

7:40

of nowhere and Dimiko Ryan. So for all those

7:42

reasons, it's got to be more than

7:44

two first round picks.

7:45

No, you're exactly right. You've got to be kidding

7:47

me right now, you're gonna move up? Are you telling me Minnesota

7:50

you want to move up to number four from number eleven?

7:52

Right now? You might want to go look at Trey Lance

7:55

and what it took the forty nine

7:57

ers White. I mean, you might want to look at that deal,

7:59

because that's what we're talking about right

8:01

now. Okay, we'll take eleven in twenty

8:03

three, and oh, by the way, we'll take your

8:06

first round pick next year. I'm just

8:08

saying three number ones. I think that could

8:10

be a possibility. And if you're desperate

8:13

enough, that's exactly what

8:15

you're gonna do. Right now,

8:17

Why would you limit yourself? Of course, you're gonna

8:19

take every call, every inquiry

8:21

that is out there, and you're gonna make the other

8:23

guys believe that you are going

8:25

to be the very thing that ruins their

8:28

draft. That's what you're trying to make

8:30

them believe. You want to breed desperation

8:33

with them. And the only way you can actually do

8:35

that, Paully, is to take calls and

8:37

communicate.

8:39

The best case scenario to me is the New York

8:41

Giants at six, because then you only go down

8:43

two spots and you still get one of those top three

8:45

elite receivers. That, to me, is the best

8:48

case scenario. Speaking of Marvin

8:50

Harrison Junior opted out of his pro day this

8:52

week, big deal or

8:54

no deal to you.

8:55

I know, Paully, it really isn't listen. I'm

8:57

in the danger zone on Marvin Harrison Junior.

9:00

Talk about it all the time. I absolutely love this

9:02

kid, but I will admit it's starting

9:04

to grind on me. I am an old school

9:06

guy. I do not apologize for that whatsoever.

9:09

I'm just like, I understand, you've got so

9:11

much to lose, that's what you're saying, I've

9:13

got so much to lose. Well, you know what, you're thinking

9:16

your way through this as opposed to just

9:18

feeling your way through this thing.

9:20

And to me, I want a competitor. I

9:23

want somebody who is going to challenge

9:26

himself and compete. And

9:28

that's why I was a little disappointed when

9:31

he did not actually participate

9:33

in his pro day. I think the combine.

9:35

I can understand why you might not do that

9:38

if you're the number one prospect, especially

9:41

at the wide receiver position. But the

9:43

pro day and skipping the pro day, man, I

9:45

did not dig that.

9:47

And I get it. It's the risk reward, right,

9:49

I mean, how much can you gain? But I

9:51

mean he's already considered the top receiver

9:53

in the draft, the top position player

9:56

in the draft arguably, so ostensibly

9:59

you can only oh right draft status

10:01

with a subpar workout. But when

10:03

Roman Dunesay is out there doing everything,

10:06

yes, and he's asked why he's doing everything,

10:08

and he says, because it's all about competing.

10:11

I know, paul And I'm not just competing with these

10:13

guys. I'm competing against everybody who's

10:15

ever competed in a combine.

10:17

I want to compare myself over history.

10:20

I mean hello, So.

10:23

I mean think about it, though, Paulie. How many times

10:25

do you hear a general manager say you miss

10:27

on the person right right?

10:29

The player? The person Well, This is

10:31

where Roma Dunzey to me is separating

10:33

himself.

10:34

When Marvin Harrison junior, and it's echoed by

10:36

his father, say it's more important for me to rest

10:39

in the off season. I

10:42

just by the way, the headline

10:44

out of the USC Pro Day Caleb Williams

10:46

ends Pro Day was seventy yard bomb.

10:49

Oh man, we've been there and done that before. All

10:51

right, he hasn't missed a game since twenty nineteen.

10:53

Blall.

10:54

Nichols is next on the big Red

10:56

Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

11:02

Let's look at that.

11:05

On the Raiders have a touchdown?

11:07

What Nichols? The Raiders pick

11:10

it up and rumble in the end.

11:11

Zone below Nichols just grabbed

11:13

it from right on the turf.

11:15

Snap back to pass pressure

11:17

again off the EDDA for

11:20

the safety.

11:21

Nichols zone school

11:23

stiff in the turn.

11:25

Have the Raiders defense has

11:27

that safety?

11:29

You know, with all the analytics out there these days in the

11:31

stats, that needs to be a new one. Squish,

11:33

you know, a defensive lineman a squish,

11:36

You know that that's that's some extra

11:38

that's super extra on top of a regular

11:40

tackle or a sack. As we welcome him

11:42

back into the big Red Rage presented by santan

11:45

Ford and Gilbert. We're definitely putting the big

11:47

in a big red rage right now, all six, three,

11:50

three and thirteen pounds of them. Bald Nichols

11:52

joins us, fresh off signing

11:55

on the line that has dotted a three

11:57

year deal. Just tell us, welcome to the

11:59

red seat, welcome to the a z baall

12:01

and just tell us about that moment and

12:03

what it meant to you.

12:05

Yeah, thank you, thank you. I mean, it's

12:07

truly a blessing. First and foremost, you

12:09

know, I would like to thank God and you know,

12:11

thank thank Him for blessing me and allowing me

12:13

to be able to go out there and play the game of love. But I

12:16

also would love to thank mister

12:18

Michael coach Gannon, you

12:20

know, coach for Oz and coach LeBlanc, you

12:22

know, just for believing in me and

12:25

you know, you know, giving

12:27

me an opportunity to be able to go out there and

12:29

showcase what I can do and you know, help this team

12:31

win games.

12:33

That moment when you're putting pen to paper, right,

12:35

I mean, there are achievements in the game, obviously

12:37

when we can look at the box scoring, but That's

12:39

a proud moment as well, isn't it when

12:42

you earn the right to wear

12:44

an NFL uniform for another three years.

12:46

Yeah.

12:47

I take a lot of pride in that, you know. You

12:49

know, this was a vision that I had

12:52

as a child, and you know where

12:54

I come from, these type of things aren't done

12:57

like at all really, you know.

12:59

So for me, you know, getting that

13:01

call, feeling that moment,

13:03

so many emotions coming over me, so many

13:05

different feelings. Gratitude, thankfulness,

13:09

you know, all of those things

13:11

like played the huge rule and I just

13:13

can't wait to go out there and get this organization

13:15

everything I got, you know, just for believing in

13:17

me. I just want to show them that I'm gonna give you everything

13:19

I got each and every single day I walk in this building.

13:22

Did you flash back at one moment to maybe

13:24

your college days, you know, the Delaware fighting

13:26

Blue Hens, right, I mean, you know

13:28

there's not a ton of NFL production, and

13:31

so you defied the odds.

13:33

Yeah, yeah, it was.

13:35

It's crazy you say that, because the moment I got the call,

13:37

that's exactly what I thought about. I thought about all those

13:39

times walking from class to my apartment,

13:42

you know, just you know, all the things

13:44

I had to do to grind to get to where I was at the day,

13:46

and all the things that made me and to the person I

13:48

ended day and to help develop my character and how

13:50

I wanted to carry myself. All those things

13:52

came back to my mind and it

13:55

was just such a surreal moment.

13:58

So when you and I know, you know this talking

14:00

to many Austin for the GM Jonathan Gannon,

14:02

the head coach. They're looking for specific

14:04

type of players to insert

14:07

in the lineup and to factor into the

14:09

culture. What do you hope they saw in your

14:11

film? What do you hope they experienced when

14:13

they met you? Tell us about Bullall Nichols.

14:15

Yes, sir, you know, when they check the film, I hope

14:18

they see a dude out there that's playing with passion,

14:20

that's heavy handed, that's that's very

14:22

determined to get off of blocks and make plays

14:25

and do whatever he has to do to allow

14:27

his team to win, whether that's playing you

14:29

know, every position on the line or wherever

14:31

I'm needed at. I'm the

14:33

guy that I'm willing to do whatever it

14:35

is I got to do to help us win. You

14:38

know, So like that's what type of person

14:40

they're getting on the field, just a

14:42

straight dog, somebody who's relentless,

14:45

not scared. I'm gonna push his teammates,

14:47

one his teammates to push him and go

14:49

and go out there and give you my best each and every day.

14:52

How about your positional flexibility is

14:54

it? I've heard a couple of people say you can play inside,

14:56

you can play more of the five technique. Just tell us about

14:58

what sort of in what different ways. Maybe Nick

15:01

Rolis can use you as the DC.

15:03

Yeah, you know that that was something that I

15:05

always try to pride myself on being a versative

15:07

player. I always believed if you could do multiple things

15:10

very well, then you'll keep a job, you

15:12

know. So yeah, you know

15:14

I've had you know, I've played five tech in

15:16

my career since I've been in the NFF. I played

15:18

four eye, i played three tech, I

15:20

played two eye, I played shade, I played head

15:23

up over the center, nose like I've literally

15:25

played every position on the front. So, you

15:28

know, just providing that versatility, you

15:30

know, for Coach Rollis, like wherever

15:32

he wanted to put me at.

15:33

You just know I'm rocking with him. I'm ready to go,

15:35

Coach.

15:36

I'm guessing I'm just guessing because the D

15:38

and D line last year for the Arizona Cardinals stood

15:40

for decimated so many injuries

15:43

and your track record of durability

15:45

and fail building reliability. Knock on wood

15:47

over here, right, you haven't missed a game since twenty

15:49

nineteen. Yes, sir, what do you attribute that to?

15:52

Oh?

15:52

Man, I tribute that to you

15:55

know, just me putting the emphasis

15:57

on my body. I realized that my body is

15:59

is is a business, and you know, if I

16:01

want to get the best out of my body, I have to put the

16:03

best in it. So a lot of that credit goes

16:06

to me just taking care of my body, putting an extra

16:08

work. A lot of that goes to my trainer, Jimial

16:10

Morrell, that I've been working with since I was eighteen

16:12

years old, constantly pushing

16:16

my body to new heights and constantly

16:19

doing a lot of prevention to prevent

16:21

injuries to allow me to stay on the field

16:23

for a long time. And that's when I take pride in Like I

16:26

take pride in the fact that when people look at me, you can't say

16:28

I miss games, and that's just being real.

16:30

I'm always out there on the field and I'm

16:32

always going to be out there on the field, and I take

16:34

pride in that your.

16:35

Head coach always keeps it real. A couple of the newcomers,

16:38

right, I've mentioned meeting Jonathan Gannon right,

16:40

as we like to say, the JG rhymes

16:42

with energy, Yes, sir,

16:45

yes, sir, contagious yes. And then they're

16:47

like, you can tell it's not fake.

16:49

No, it's not like I'm talking about energy,

16:52

Like the energy is contagious, like

16:54

it's being spread throughout the building. As

16:56

soon as you talk to him, you feel like you got

16:58

to match his energy, you know what I'm saying,

17:01

Yes, and and and that's a that's a great feeling,

17:03

Like, oh man, I can't wait to get to work with him.

17:05

That's good stuff. Blall Nichols

17:07

is our guest. All right, So your first

17:10

career sack was against Matthew Stafford,

17:12

if I'm seeing here, your second career

17:14

sack was against Kirk Cousins, who's

17:17

still on the list. You know, I'd like to ask these defensive

17:19

lineman edge guys, all right, who would you like to

17:21

sack?

17:22

What I like to say, I would love to get

17:26

that's a good question. Actually, I

17:28

would love to get in quarterback from our division.

17:30

Let's put it like that.

17:31

There you all love them. That's a good one. So that's

17:33

a good one, is it all right? I'm going to flash

17:35

back to week two, twenty twenty two. You

17:37

were playing for the Raiders, and you, from

17:40

your perspective, remind everybody

17:42

what Kyler Murray did legendary epic

17:45

stuff. I mean, as a defensive

17:47

lineman. Where were you during that

17:49

play? And how well do you remember that play?

17:53

So?

17:54

Yeah, first of all, I'm talking about the twenty

17:56

second scamper for the pot coversion.

17:58

I know exactly the rest

18:00

of all, you know, credit to Kyler for making

18:02

that play. That's tremendous, tremendous player

18:04

for first and foremost.

18:06

You know.

18:06

Actually, it's funny because that play I

18:09

happened to be on the sideline because it was a long drive

18:11

if I remember correctly, the

18:14

Cardinals had the ball for a very long time and

18:16

march down the field and I

18:18

believe it may have been in like at least

18:21

fifteen to sixteen play

18:23

drive. And I remember vividly

18:25

watching that play on the sideline and

18:28

I'm seeing him running and it felt

18:30

like he was running for a minute long, like it

18:32

felt like forever, And in my head I'm like,

18:34

no way, he's going backwards, he's going side to side,

18:36

he's going for everywhere. And when

18:39

I seen him get the job done and get

18:41

that ball in the inZone, I.

18:42

Was like, that's a dog. That's

18:44

a dog.

18:45

Like you know that that was something that you never

18:47

want to be on the opposite side of that, but it

18:49

was great to witness.

18:51

Well, look, you just see

18:53

a defensive linemen. Talk about how frustrating and how

18:55

vexing it is to chase those guys around

18:58

you tell us from your perspective, especially

19:00

look, Patrick mahomes the greatest

19:02

in the game. When he has to extend a play,

19:04

he extends a play. M I mean, how

19:07

brutal is that? How tough is that to defend? Is

19:09

a d lineman?

19:10

Oh man, it's tough.

19:10

It's tough. You know.

19:11

It's one of those things that

19:15

you can't allow it to demoralize

19:17

your defense, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,

19:20

these these these are great players. You know that they're

19:22

going to scramble, You know that these are things that make them

19:24

great. You know, it's just about keeping

19:26

your poise and realizing that you

19:28

know that they're going to try to do these things. And

19:31

just have an accounter for it and just keeping

19:33

everybody on the same page. Everybody

19:35

got a responsibility. If your job is to contain

19:38

the edge, you contain the edge. If your job is

19:40

to push the middle, you push the middle. If you got

19:42

on one to one and your job is to win, you go win.

19:44

Everybody has to do their job. So I think that when

19:46

you're playing quarterbacks of that caliber, that's

19:49

when an important d line play come in and we all got

19:51

to be on the same page.

19:52

Lall.

19:52

Nicholas is our guest here in the Big Red Rage. So

19:55

I'm sure you're aware Cardinals finished dead last

19:57

and rush defense a year ago. As we mentioned,

19:59

they were devastated by injury

20:02

up front. So tell us about how important

20:04

that is in your mind, because we always hear and you

20:06

know all the stats about passing. How

20:08

critical is it to stop the run in the

20:10

NFL twenty twenty four.

20:12

Oh, it's very It's very important. That's

20:14

a that's a mindset, point blank

20:17

period. I mean, when I look at

20:19

if you could run the ball or stop the run, I think about

20:21

how tough you are, because that's something

20:23

that not everybody built to do. Now, everybody built

20:25

to run the ball. Now, everybody abilt to stop the run. So

20:28

to me, that's a toughness thing. You

20:30

know what I'm saying, that's coming in every day with that mindset.

20:33

You're not running this ball on us, right, And

20:35

that's and that's how I'm coming in here.

20:37

You're not running this ball on us, and

20:40

uh, you know, And something that I want

20:42

to do is I want

20:44

to pass that energy to all of my teammates.

20:46

I wanted to be contagious. I want I want all

20:49

of us to have that same mindset, to have that

20:51

same same vision, that same

20:53

goal.

20:54

You know what I'm saying, you don't. You don't do that.

20:55

Does I'm guessing your forsier years

20:57

in Chicago with the Bears, right, playing in that division

21:00

and playing some of those outdoor games, I'm guessing

21:02

that only four to five your toughness.

21:04

Oh yeah, yeah, I was.

21:05

I was blessed enough to play with you know, dudes

21:08

like a Keen Hicks, Eddie Goldman, Khalil

21:11

Mack. You know, Mactually I played. I've been

21:13

fortunate enough to play with some dogs up

21:15

front, and you know, over my course of

21:17

the years, that was one thing I noticed each one of those

21:19

players. I just ain't had in common. They

21:21

had that same mindset every day and

21:23

if you didn't have that mindset, it was gonna

21:26

be an issue.

21:28

And you know what, that's something that the new culture

21:30

is trying to instill in this

21:32

team. There's no doubt about it. So all right, you go

21:34

from Vegas to Arizona, you're staying

21:36

in the desert. So do you enjoy the desert

21:39

lifestyle?

21:39

I love it. I love it. I love it.

21:41

I'm loving every single minute of it.

21:43

So appreciated.

21:45

Hey, it's it is so great to have you.

21:47

I mean, you know, and it's a short

21:49

johnt coming from Vegas and now you're coming to

21:52

the Cardinals. And I'm guessing you

21:54

noticed, between you and Justin Jones, a

21:56

lot of money invested in this defensive line.

21:58

It's an area of needs. So looking

22:00

forward to getting to know you and looking forward to seeing you

22:02

out in the field ball. Thank you very much, Thank you,

22:05

appreciate it. There you go in the newest Arizona Cardinal

22:07

in that defensive line room once again.

22:09

Three years, twenty one million,

22:11

reportedly aged twenty seven, right

22:14

in his prime year. Number seven started

22:16

all seventeen games the last two years.

22:19

Looking forward to putting his name into the lineup, no

22:21

doubt about it. We continue with a big red rage presented

22:23

by santan Ford and Gilbert back right

22:25

after this.

22:31

As leading the back field offers of line

22:33

run up to then they come. Mack Wilson comes

22:36

through like a rocket has time

22:38

and now one is picked off.

22:40

It ist Wilson again with

22:42

a terrific play screen

22:44

for McKinnon tackle perby.

22:47

Hind get absolutely ripped by

22:49

mac Wilson.

22:50

It's in a chapter the thirty down the sideline of the

22:52

fifty yard line.

22:53

It's Murphy Bumpty to the thirty

22:55

to the twenty to the fifteen of us hand.

22:57

Sean Murphy Bunton is by HEROD.

23:00

Drone down the middle and it was

23:02

intercepted on a falling down

23:04

tick. Sean Murphy Bunting

23:07

has just picked off a pass of Aaron

23:09

Rodgers.

23:10

Bubbles them on the first time he scooped

23:12

up. It's picked up by Murphy Bunting

23:15

running right to left at the thirty.

23:17

Homes cry oh trill interception and

23:19

on the return Sean Murphy Bunting, how

23:22

about that.

23:22

You knew it was going down when he tweeted out the

23:24

hashtag bird Gang Sean Murphy

23:27

Bunting one of a half dozen

23:30

plus free agents signing on the line that

23:32

has dotted. We sited on the Red

23:34

Sea Report earlier this week. Welcome back

23:36

to the Big Red Rage presented by Santan

23:39

Ford in Gilbert Special. Thanks once again

23:41

to Big Ball Nichols. That was good stuff

23:43

there from the Cardinals new defensive lineman. You talk

23:45

about running the two man game with Justin

23:47

Jones, those guys go way back. That's gonna

23:49

be good stuff and get to watch that. But as

23:52

for Sean Murphy Bunting, Ron wolf Ley, the

23:54

you know, the Holy Conoly stat if you will, is he

23:57

was a zero star recruit coming

23:59

out of high school only to become a

24:01

second round selection in the

24:03

NFL draft out of Central Michigan to

24:05

Tampa. And then Rob Frederickson cracked wise

24:08

and said, well, Paul, that's finally something you know something about

24:10

a zero star recruit.

24:12

So it's been a tough balle What does

24:14

that tell you though, when you say that, what

24:16

does that tell you about Sean Murphy Bunting.

24:18

That he's a JG guy, That he's

24:21

that sort of mentality, right, self made,

24:24

self motivated. Yes, you

24:26

know, obviously mentally tough would you got to

24:28

be to play cornerback?

24:29

Right, Paulie. The resiliency that

24:32

Sean Murphy Bunting has shown to be

24:34

a zero star recruit and then

24:36

you end up being a second round pick

24:39

coming out in playing five years in the National

24:41

Football League and being a solid starter.

24:44

He's one of the best sixty four

24:46

corners on the face of the planet. Right,

24:48

you got two corners that starts on

24:50

every football team. He has a starting

24:53

cornerback in the National Football League.

24:55

And I love his attitude and I love his history

24:58

because what you see on t is

25:00

a guy that works super hard

25:03

and takes nothing for granted.

25:04

And I still think corner is the sleeper position

25:06

in the draft in round one for the Arizona Cardinals.

25:09

Whether it's arry On Arnold or maybe

25:11

a Quinny and Mitchell, we'll see, because I

25:13

think he will be paired with a top draft pick

25:15

in the Cardinals secondary. We'll hear what JG

25:18

had to say about Sean Murphy Bunting. Momentarily,

25:21

our Craig Grielho did the math rn wolfully

25:23

last year in the offseason, the first off season

25:26

manias of or Jonathan Gannon. Right, they spent

25:28

twenty seven million plus guaranteed

25:31

to twenty nine different players

25:34

via free agency in the offseason already

25:36

this year to seven players just

25:39

under eighty million dollars guaranteed.

25:42

Oh so, how often have we

25:44

talked about it? They needed a full year to assess

25:47

what they have, Yeah, what they need, what

25:49

they want?

25:50

Right, yep? Not only that, Pauly,

25:52

you know, once again, it's a situation where

25:54

this culture is established and

25:57

has been established going into

25:59

last year. Of course, it was just an idea.

26:01

That's what culture is. It's just

26:04

a thought and you put a thought

26:06

into words, and then you try to go

26:08

and you try to fill those words

26:10

and that thought with players that can

26:12

actually model that culture to everybody

26:15

else. They fit your culture. In other

26:17

words, it was just kind of up in the

26:19

air pie in the sky, and

26:21

you were trying to fill it with guys you think

26:24

would be able to model that culture to everybody

26:26

else. Now, all of a sudden, you know, exactly,

26:29

Paul, this is the thing that's got

26:31

me so excited about the Arizona

26:34

Cardinals and what they did this offseason

26:37

with a free agent period. Right now, knowing

26:39

exactly the kind of human being,

26:41

the kind of person they wanted to come

26:44

into this culture and play corner and

26:46

play defensive tackle. These guys

26:48

coming in to play this these positions.

26:51

Man, to me, that is

26:54

it makes their job so much easier

26:56

to do. And it's the reason why now

26:58

you're signing them to three year contracts

27:01

because you know these guys are gonna

27:03

be with you for years and

27:05

it's amazing.

27:05

And you sign a guy to a long term deal and he

27:07

has a longtime track record of availability,

27:10

durability, right, reliability. Yes,

27:13

including mac Wilson. You heard some of those highlights.

27:15

You only played twenty seven percent of this defensive

27:18

snaps for New England last year, but really

27:20

productive. And here's what Jonathan Gannon had

27:23

to say his first words on mac Wilson.

27:25

Violent, high football character, can

27:28

play multiple positions, Fast,

27:32

smart, tough, excited

27:34

to be here.

27:34

Yeah, that's what he likes about mac Wilson.

27:37

And Paul, I just love that because you know why

27:40

I love that right there, right, this is Sparta,

27:42

Okay, this is the way the Spartans used to talk,

27:45

Paul. They used to believe that what you say,

27:47

the words you used to describe something

27:49

was the beginning of toughness. And that's

27:52

what JG is what JG says

27:54

that right there. I absolutely love that violence.

27:57

This is a football player that walks between

28:00

those white lines. Outside of the white lines,

28:02

he's great. But inside those white lines,

28:04

man, he is going to play the game

28:07

with an attitude, in a physicality

28:10

and an aggressiveness that

28:12

is uncommon right now. And I love what I

28:14

see from Mac Wilson when I watch tape so.

28:16

Wolf as a guy who went to four Pro Bowls

28:19

covering kickoffs. Did you see his hit

28:21

heard around the world as described by Jonah

28:23

Williams, his former teammate at Alabama when

28:25

Mac Wilson was a freshman at Alabama

28:28

and what he did to that kick return to.

28:29

I did not pull it.

28:31

Oh boy, everybody,

28:33

you gotta go watch that. You just got destroy

28:36

that return guy. And now Mac Wilson,

28:38

towards the end of last year, they unleashed him

28:40

off the edge and it caught the

28:42

attention recently of our own Kyle Van

28:45

Deenbosch, three time Pro bowler,

28:47

coming off the edge getting after the quarterback. Here's

28:49

what he had to say on the Red Sea Report.

28:52

I think this is the signing with the highest ceiling.

28:54

I think he's got tremendous ability when

28:56

he's lined up at an off the ball inside linebacker.

28:59

He really does play side line to sideline. He's

29:01

got good closing speed. He's a physical linebacker.

29:03

Graded out really really well, one

29:06

of the top linebackers in the league. When he was used in coverage,

29:08

he graded out really well in coverage.

29:10

He looks good in the run front. I

29:12

think he could develop into a really reliable

29:15

inside linebacker and even be used as an

29:17

edge rusher. I mean I saw tremendous

29:19

get off, tremendous burst, and tremendous bend,

29:22

all three things that are assets for edge rushers.

29:24

So you can use him in a number of ways.

29:26

And I'm excited to see what he brings

29:28

to this defense next year.

29:30

And based on last year, there's no doubt they're

29:32

going to use him just a whole variety

29:34

of roles. Maybe how we all envision

29:36

Isaiah Simmons being used once upon

29:39

a time, I could see Mac Wilson

29:41

in a similar role.

29:42

Yeah, maybe Paully, but once again, I think

29:44

you could just line him up at inside linebacker

29:47

as well. Listen to you in today's

29:49

NFL, Paul, you need two inside

29:51

linebackers, and if you have two inside

29:54

linebackers that don't come off the field

29:56

unless they are in unusual situations

30:00

down in distances behind the chains

30:03

or weird personnel groups like

30:05

ten personnel with four wide receivers.

30:08

I mean, unless you're unless

30:10

you're in an unusual situation and

30:13

you can leave two inside linebackers on the

30:15

field. Paul, You've got a big advantage right there.

30:17

You can because you can go six in the box

30:19

against eleven personnel and you can

30:22

hold up against the run in rundown

30:24

situations. And I think

30:27

this is what the Arizona Cardinals might have.

30:29

You got two guys Kaizer White and

30:32

mac Wilson who are good at the point of

30:34

attack. And I also think too,

30:36

PAULI here's my hot take, and I told you this here

30:39

hot the hot take, Paulie, the bold

30:41

prediction. Mac Wilson plays Mike

30:43

and Kayzer plays Will. That's interesting,

30:46

really, And yeah, Kaizer still calls the

30:48

place.

30:48

When you talk about a pair of inside linebackers

30:51

who don't come off the field, I automatically think

30:53

of the Cardinals division rival to forty nine ers

30:55

Fred Warner and Drake Greenlaw Bengo

30:58

and the underrated aspect of their loss in the Super

31:00

Bowl is when Greenlaw just for his

31:02

achilles right and wasn't available the rest of that

31:04

game. That was huge because we know what happened

31:06

when Kaizer White missed the last seven games.

31:08

All of a sudden, the Cardinals had serious liabilities

31:11

in coverage running backs out of the backfield,

31:13

tight ends down the field.

31:15

Kis.

31:15

It was so good and from appearances,

31:18

mac Wilson is even more equipped in

31:20

cover exactly. He was one of the highest rated coverage

31:22

linebackers in the league.

31:24

Yeah, Pauline, and this is the thing that I'm you know, I'm

31:26

thinking of. You know, that mic backer typically

31:28

a little bit more butt to him than

31:30

the weak side inside, right, that

31:33

mike backer's got a little bit more side. You

31:35

take a look at Kaizer White. He's two hundred

31:37

and thirty four pounds. You know now that there's

31:39

nothing wrong with that in today's NFL. That's inside

31:42

linebackers stuff right there. But man,

31:44

you've got mac Wilson who's

31:47

six to one, two hundred and forty six

31:50

pounds. That to me, paul

31:52

is very very appealing as a MIC

31:54

linebacker to have a little bit more butt, to

31:57

be able to take on tight ends as well.

31:59

And run down the field as money and

32:01

Ford said, look, there's an intentionality to who

32:03

they signed, not only durability, but versatility.

32:06

All right.

32:06

You see to Mac Wilson, and you also see

32:08

it in Sean Murphy Bunting, and Jonathan

32:11

Gannon talked about that.

32:12

You know, obviously he's played on very

32:14

good defenses, won a Super Bowl, has

32:17

played left and right, played inside. He's a guy

32:19

that I've done a lot of work. That's kind of funny, kind

32:22

of comes full circle now that we sign

32:24

him, but when I was two teams

32:26

ago did him when he was coming out, and yeah,

32:29

he's a really good player. He's

32:31

played at a high level. He's a versatile player and

32:34

just like Mac, you know, high football character,

32:36

loves ball and he's gonna love it here.

32:39

I had to stifle myself during the press conference. I

32:41

wanted to say, ah, I knew it

32:43

because when we were interviewing Sean Murphy Bunting

32:45

last week here on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan

32:47

Ford and Gilbert, I said, you know what, you seem like

32:49

a JG guy, And sure enough,

32:52

Jonathan said he studied Sean Murphy

32:54

Bunting coming out of college A few years

32:56

back, so really interesting

32:59

that that's a good thing. What I

33:01

think everyone wonders wolf is that his

33:03

numbers and ratings and metrics as

33:06

an outside corner are not nearly

33:08

as robust and as impressive as he was

33:10

as a nickel slot corner. But

33:13

he is hellbent on proving himself

33:15

as an outside corner, and it looks

33:17

like he does have a believer in the head coach.

33:19

Yeah, you know what, PAULI I think this is

33:22

interesting right here for a couple of reasons.

33:24

Number one, I'm told he's a very

33:26

versatile corner. This is a guy that

33:29

can walk up over a wide receiver and

33:31

play press. This is a guy that

33:33

can back off and play in his own room

33:36

as well, Paul. So he's

33:38

very versatile for the most part. And the other

33:40

thing I like about this is you

33:43

cannot tell me he played for the Tennessee Titans,

33:45

of course last year, and you cannot tell me that mantiasen

33:48

Fort still doesn't have some tentacles

33:52

inside of that organization, some

33:55

relationships that he built in his three

33:57

years of being there that he could actually

34:00

reference. Some of these guys would just say

34:02

the grapevine

34:05

is vast and varied in the NFL. Paully

34:07

would just say that's a true statement.

34:09

Even some of the personnel, like not just even the

34:11

personnel department, but some of the regular football

34:13

staffers inside the building, Yes,

34:15

who can give you good intel on a player in his makeup.

34:18

Exactly, Paul. So it's very

34:20

interesting to me that Sean Murphy

34:22

Bunting is here. It's a position of

34:25

need. He is a pro, he is a starter.

34:27

Once again, that's what we did the big difference.

34:30

I already talked a little bit about it, but going

34:32

out and signing starters from other

34:34

teams where last year MONI went

34:36

out and signed a lot of one year contracts

34:39

to guys who were depth players for

34:41

the most part, because they were building their

34:43

culture, laying the foundation.

34:45

Yeah, and as j G says,

34:47

you got to know before

34:49

you invest in these players, least ideally,

34:52

so you got to figure out, all right, what's their makeup, what motivates

34:54

them? And then you have some of the other

34:56

guys that they went in on, right, not only

34:58

mac Wilson who finished really strong, but a Kyrie's

35:01

Tonga, that big defensive lineman from

35:04

the Vikings is going to play sort of that lecky FO

35:06

two role. He got one year four hundred

35:08

thousand guarantee, but he really turned it on to the end

35:10

of the year. So you're trying to buy low sell high

35:13

here with a couple of guys who when they

35:15

got their opportunities at the end of last season,

35:17

they excelled, and then you're banking on

35:20

the fact that maybe they pick up where they left off this

35:22

season. Learn more about the go ahead Wolf.

35:25

No, Paulie, not only that, but LJ. Collier,

35:27

keep your eye on that one, Paulie. I'm just saying,

35:29

yeah, that defensive line once again, keep

35:31

your eye on Collier.

35:33

No doubt. Hey, speaking of the line, we're

35:35

gonna come back. We're gonna talk about the offensive line.

35:38

The question you do not ask

35:40

Jonathan Gannon between now and week one

35:42

of the regular season. All right, he's

35:44

half serious with the media. And what

35:46

exactly did Manti

35:49

Asinford mean when you use the word brutal

35:51

about one aspect of this offseason. We

35:53

continue with a big red rage presented by Santan

35:56

Ford in Gilbert.

36:01

If you think that color is not our future, you

36:03

are a plumb fool.

36:04

You know what I mean that?

36:05

Just I say that again. If you think

36:07

that he's not our future. You are

36:09

absolutely you need to slow down on the drinking in the daytime,

36:12

you know what I mean. Like, I know Scott's still big

36:14

on Sunday Sunday, but you got dollar back a little bit, you

36:16

know.

36:17

Oh, Man, if I.

36:17

Ain't got to look at five people at the same I can just focus

36:20

on that end. If I just bought that dude right there

36:22

to that guy, it's a lot different when I got to look

36:24

at this guy, that guy, and that guy, and if

36:26

that guy moved there, I got blocked that dude. But if he like

36:28

he gonna move and he don't really come, and I gotta go back

36:30

on that dude, that's a whole bunch.

36:32

Like that is a lot.

36:33

Man.

36:35

I'm pretty smart, but God.

36:38

There's some guys and it's like there's there's some guys that got

36:40

good material. I would say DJ seventy four,

36:42

he's a really good joke.

36:43

Sir. So upset that about

36:45

me?

36:46

I told yo, Sis, you

36:49

think I'm funny.

36:50

Bro, I

36:55

can die today.

36:55

Man, I'm happy see says something funny.

36:58

I made, Sis like we're good.

37:00

I'm talking about t Sizzle, Durelle Suggs,

37:03

Once upon a Time, Surefire

37:05

Hall of famer. Eventually, there's

37:07

a reason ron Wolf with a D. J. Jumfrey's name.

37:09

Once upon a time was on this show, The Big Red

37:11

Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.

37:14

We're gonna miss the big guy, aren't we.

37:16

No doubt about it, Paulli. He

37:18

was so entertaining, so fun to be around,

37:20

a great personality, a very

37:22

very strong man of course, and yet at

37:25

the same time he was a dog on

37:27

the football field. And I enjoyed his time

37:29

here. And you know, listen,

37:32

you know that it's a mercenary league, PAULI,

37:35

It really is. It always is going to be a mercenary

37:38

league, and it always has been for the most part.

37:40

And it makes you feel really, really good

37:44

when you think of DJ as a man playing

37:46

nine years for the Arizona Cardinals and making

37:49

over eighty million dollars. I'm

37:51

just saying, Paul, Yeah.

37:53

And look, the one constant in the NFL

37:56

is change. That's why when you run,

37:59

when you run into other former players, you know, if

38:01

you can get ten years that like you did, I mean, it just

38:03

seems to it's such a signature

38:05

accomplishment in the NFL. If you can

38:07

actually get a ten year career.

38:10

I mean, not only you're the point one percent of

38:12

football players, but then you really achieved

38:14

in pro football itself. And as evidence

38:17

of that, you want to look at the last four draft

38:19

classes prior to many asin fort. We're

38:21

talking about twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,

38:23

twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. Out

38:26

of thirty two players, only six

38:28

remain from those four draft

38:31

classes. Kyler from twenty

38:33

nineteen, none from twenty twenty.

38:35

Lecky FO two is now with the Jets. He was the last

38:38

remaining twenty twenty one, Zavin

38:40

and Victor d mucage and then

38:43

two years ago twenty twenty two, Trey

38:45

McBride, Cam Thomas and Jesse

38:47

Luketa.

38:48

That is stunning, Paul.

38:50

So these especially if you have a new gym

38:53

and a new head coach, they're going to turn the roster over.

38:55

We know it.

38:55

They've been hitting the big red reset button and

38:58

this offseason here recently it included

39:00

d J Humphries, formerly the longest

39:03

tenured cardinal. And here's what many Ausinport had

39:05

to say this week on the release of DJ Humphreys.

39:07

I can't say enough about how I feel about

39:10

DJ as a football player

39:12

and even more so as a person just

39:14

being around him and his energy

39:17

and the leadership that he brought

39:19

to this team. We're certainly going to miss

39:21

him, you know, and I just hope

39:23

nothing but the best for him and his recovery and

39:25

his rehab. And you know, who

39:27

knows, who knows what's going to happen down the line. You know,

39:30

like would have zero

39:32

hesitation to bring DJ back.

39:35

Now that's interesting, Yes, it is

39:37

white ball. Well, I mean, okay, there might

39:39

be a future d J Jumpries as an Arizona

39:42

Cardinal. Once again, look,

39:44

the contract obviously was over fifteen

39:46

million dollars worth on the cap, He's over thirty

39:48

years of age, he had the season enning ACL

39:51

tear in the second last game of the year, so everything

39:53

lined up. It just didn't make business sense

39:56

cap sense. But as Money

39:58

also pointed out, d J Jumpries is still have

40:00

every resource available to him in

40:02

rehab through the NFL and the

40:04

Cardinals. So if indeed

40:06

there's a point at which next season he's ready to go

40:09

and Cardinals might be in need of a swing tackle

40:11

a guy who's been there and done that on both sides

40:13

of the line, I mean, you have Paris Johnson

40:16

junior Jonah Williams, and then if Kelvin

40:18

Beacham is still there, But I mean there could

40:20

always be room for a DJ Humphreys at the right price.

40:23

There's no doubt about that, PAULI. And when I heard

40:25

Manti assin Ford say that, When I heard

40:27

him say that, it told me immediately

40:30

that they must have parted on good

40:32

terms. Yeah, you know, yeah,

40:35

maybe there's a door that is still going to

40:37

be They must have parted. It must

40:39

have been an amicable situation

40:42

when they'd departed on that, and that

40:45

is really really encouraging to me. Now, it doesn't

40:47

mean it's gonna happen. It doesn't

40:49

mean that, But to me, I was also

40:52

thinking the same thing you were. I was very encouraged

40:55

on that because it told me, hey, maybe this

40:57

was an amicable situation.

40:59

So meanwhile, out now you have Paris Johnson

41:01

junior, who the NFL network

41:03

is reporting is going to left tackle. Jonah

41:06

Williams has been signed. He had three

41:08

years as a starting left tackle for the Bengals and last

41:11

year starting right tackle. Okay,

41:14

where exactly are these two guys gonna

41:16

line up when the season starts? And

41:18

Jonathan Gannon knew the question was coming in

41:20

his first media availability, and here was

41:22

his answer.

41:23

Let's talk about this one for a minute here, because

41:26

you guys are gonna ask me one hundred and thirty two times.

41:29

We will know who's.

41:30

Playing where the Friday before

41:33

we play Week one. So when

41:35

you guys asked me, where is this guy playing?

41:37

Who's the starter?

41:38

Is?

41:38

What are we doing?

41:39

Blah blah blah, I don't know, guys, So you'll

41:41

see week one.

41:42

So there you go.

41:43

Okay, I love that Paul League. Where do you start on that

41:46

one?

41:47

Well, look, I'll just say

41:49

that Jonah Williams grated up better as a right

41:51

tackle last season than he had the previous season

41:53

at left tackle. Correct and as

41:55

the former number six player overall

41:58

in the draft last season, a guy just starting

42:00

his NFL career, I think Paris

42:02

Johnson Junior will be given every chance

42:04

to nail down the left tackle spot. That's my

42:07

gut feel, ding ding ding ball.

42:09

I think we have a winner right there. No, and why

42:11

wouldn't you do that? Honestly, when you stop and think

42:13

about it, right now, you got this young guy,

42:15

you drafted him number six overall, did

42:17

an excellent job at right tackle.

42:19

Can he get better? Absolutely, he

42:21

definitely can't get better. He took every snap

42:24

for you, though, played in all seventeen games,

42:26

and got better. I thought as the season

42:28

unfolded, Right now, this is a guy

42:31

that you see as being one of your two

42:34

best tackles, of course, on your team,

42:36

and you need to in today's NFL, no

42:38

doubt about it. Why not start him off

42:40

at left tackle? Go ahead and do that because

42:42

you did take him so high. Give him the

42:45

opportunity to go out there and show to

42:47

you he's not your left tackle,

42:49

and PAULI, guess what. That decision

42:51

can be made before

42:53

the regular season. That decision

42:56

can be made even before you start

42:58

playing games.

43:00

Now.

43:00

Obviously you're gonna throw them out there anyways

43:03

and watch them on tape during games,

43:05

but even before that, they're gonna

43:07

have a really good idea as to whether or not Paris

43:10

Johnson Junior is gonna be able to

43:12

hold up at left tackle. And

43:14

if not, guess what. You just happen

43:17

to have this guy who played

43:19

three years at left tackle, and Jonah Williams

43:21

who could flop over there. That's why

43:23

that signing was so critical.

43:25

I think the other question it raises is where

43:28

will the Cardinals go in the draft, and is there

43:30

a tackle in their future. It's

43:32

historically deep in tackles, and we all

43:35

presume you're truly included. Oh, Cardinals

43:37

are taking a tackle in the first round at some point, if not

43:40

the top of the second round. Really maybe

43:43

not. They still need d line edge, they

43:45

need corner, I mean, center, receiver.

43:48

There are five other positions you could easily

43:50

put ahead of offensive tackle right now.

43:52

Tom Bresnahan, go ahead and google it. Tom

43:54

Bresnahan was a great offensive line

43:56

coach. He believed his philosophy was

43:59

draft tackles make them guards, so

44:01

that they could always go out to tackle

44:03

if they had to do that. Draft tackles

44:06

make them guards.

44:07

What's also interesting, they signed Evan Brown

44:09

as a free agent, the veteran and starting

44:12

center for the Seahawks all of last

44:14

season, former starting center in

44:16

Detroit as well. So you have another

44:19

veteran center now on the roster

44:21

to go with the Yelda Froholtz. So they've

44:24

been building the old line, but maybe they

44:26

don't build it through the draft like we all

44:28

presumed. At least they have enough

44:31

on paper right now to play the season.

44:33

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