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Here's Craig Griolud, Paul Calvic,

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Frederickson.

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So it is rare here when we hit the air

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on Tuesday at eleven am that we

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actually have live game

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action going on. Okay, it's not live,

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it's taped. But how about a flash back,

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gentlemen, on the television behind me NFL

1:03

Network. Cardinals currently trail the Carolina

1:05

Panthers twenty one to fourteen, late

1:08

third quarter, Kevin Cobb driving

1:10

the Cardinals, though on this Panthers defense,

1:12

Paul you remember the game.

1:13

Well, Kevin Cobb, that

1:16

was a name. This would have been what Okay,

1:19

all right, there we go. Kevin Cobb. Interesting

1:23

because I think of Carolina. I think of Cam Newton. I

1:25

think his debut in the NFL against

1:27

the Cardinals of State Farm Stadium. I

1:29

think the NFC Championship game.

1:31

We don't need to go there.

1:32

I don't I even think of the

1:35

Ryan Linley playoff game,

1:37

which we totally need to mention either,

1:40

But yeah, I don't think of the Kevin Cobb

1:42

game against Carolina. Why would this be

1:44

replayed?

1:45

Well, they're replaying Cam Newton's greatest

1:47

hits, so that's the great All

1:49

right, there we go. But it's good to have football

1:52

on and it's good to talk football,

1:54

which we do each and every Tuesday here

1:56

on the Cardinals Red Sea Report. And as we hit

1:58

now the month of April, much

2:01

of the talk, about ninety five percent

2:03

of the talk concerns the NFL

2:05

Draft. Yes, free agency is still going

2:08

on, kind of died down though a little

2:10

bit as far as the number of signings

2:12

Cardinals included. But this is the

2:15

month. This is the month where fortunes

2:17

change for a number of players

2:20

and hopefully for the Arizona Cardinals

2:22

as a franchise.

2:23

Yeah, and I was just talking with with Jim Omahandra

2:25

before we came on about this period

2:28

of time for free agents

2:30

that are in the NFL. This is this

2:32

is kind of nerve wracking for those guys

2:34

because they didn't make that first wave of

2:37

free agents and now they're kind of sitting

2:39

at home and everything's kind of quiet because,

2:42

as you said, everybody's getting ready for

2:44

the draft. Everything's building up

2:46

towards the draft and what the teams

2:48

are going to take. And then after

2:51

the draft, then these guys might

2:53

start to get some some

2:55

phone calls because uh, teams

2:58

will be looking to patch some holes and

3:00

that they didn't address in the draft. So it's

3:03

nerve wracking for guys that didn't make

3:05

the first wave of the free agency. That

3:07

is exciting for the young players

3:09

coming out of college that are that are coming

3:11

into the draft. And I

3:14

certainly remember that time in my life

3:16

and it was an interesting day,

3:19

say the least.

3:20

And according to reports, those top

3:22

thirty visits are happening. One report

3:24

in facts here today wide receiver

3:27

Molik neighbors and for a

3:29

visit one of those top three wide receivers,

3:31

and as Larry Fitzgerald plays on the television behind

3:33

is Paul. Yes, the Cardinals need a

3:36

number one wide receiver. How about just any

3:38

wide receiver to pair along with Michael Wilson

3:41

and A Greg George Zach Pascal, Chris Moore

3:43

and company. But one of those top

3:45

three names perhaps, though does it

3:47

come at number four? Does it come at eleven

3:50

or twelve or thirteen?

3:51

Or dare I say six New

3:54

York Giants? Definitely? I think in their mix

3:56

to move up right, So I

3:58

firmly believe at this point Cardinals are trading

4:00

out of number four. Question is how far

4:03

down did they go down to number six and still get

4:05

one of the big three receivers? Marvin

4:07

Harrison Junior, roam A dunes a Malik

4:09

neighbors head on a swivel if he's at

4:11

Cardinals HQ on his top thirty visit

4:13

today. Or do you go

4:16

down maybe middle of the first round maybe

4:18

dare I say even number twenty seven or number

4:20

thirty five and you get a franchise

4:23

receiver? It is so stinking deep

4:25

at that position. Do you still get an ad

4:27

Mitchell down there? Brian Thomas out of

4:29

LSU Ricky pearsall out of Florida,

4:32

Keon Coleman out of Florida State. You know,

4:34

the name's getting a lot of run right now, and

4:36

he's moving up the board. Xavier Leggatt

4:38

out of a Legette out of a South Carolina

4:40

six one two twenty five. His

4:43

comp is DJ Moore. He ran a four to three

4:46

nine. Didn't get a lot of targets of South

4:48

Carolina, but when he did, he made a

4:50

lot of plays, has a lot of sure hands. I just

4:52

think the receiver position is so deep. The

4:55

more you look at it, the more apt I think the Cardinals

4:57

are to trade out of number four, get defensive

5:00

line, get corner early, and

5:02

then all of a sudden, get receiver late first

5:04

round top of two.

5:05

Seeing a lot of Brian Thomas Junior the other

5:07

receiver out of LSU, and a number of mock

5:09

drafts, including the NFL Networks land Zer

5:11

lines three point zero which drops on

5:14

Tuesday morning. Bottom line, Mati onsen

5:16

Ford has options in front of him.

5:18

Head coach Jonathan Gannon last week

5:21

NFL Annual League Meeting talking about

5:23

the position his general manager is in and.

5:25

It is good to be miney right now, He's in season,

5:28

so I leave him alone a little bit. And this

5:30

is like his baby, so I say,

5:32

hey, you just do your thing, man, you just do your

5:34

thing.

5:35

We feel good about.

5:35

It, and obviously we talk,

5:38

you know, every day, but I'm

5:40

excited about where we're at and

5:43

what we need to add in.

5:44

The plan to do that.

5:46

Eleven total picks rob six

5:48

in the top ninety, plenty of draft

5:51

capital to do what Paul says, and that is

5:53

moved down, maybe moved back up as Monty

5:55

did a year ago, and making sure he secured

5:58

Paris Johnson. I

6:01

just wonder, now, is there

6:03

a package that is worthy

6:05

of many looking at that number four

6:07

and seeing Marvin Harrison Junior perhaps

6:09

being available and saying, all right, yeah,

6:11

that's a talented wide receiver. To Paul's point, it's

6:13

a deep wide receiver class. Let's

6:16

move down a couple of spots, Dare I say,

6:18

just outside the top ten and acquire more draft

6:20

capital to fill some of those other

6:22

needs, whether that's d line as rusher,

6:25

cornerback, et cetera.

6:26

Et cetera.

6:27

Yeah, I mean, you look at this wide receiver

6:29

group for the twenty twenty four of draft class.

6:31

It is it is deep and Paul's right, it's

6:34

very deep, and you're you're most likely going

6:36

to be able to find a number one receiver later

6:38

in the first round draft, later in the first

6:40

round, but sitting at

6:43

number four, it's going to be very

6:45

difficult for Maniacifort to move

6:47

off of Marvin Harrison Junior. I mean,

6:49

that is a generational type player

6:51

for everything that we've seen on film

6:54

and everything that everyone is saying

6:56

about him as a player, that

6:59

that's going to be very hard to move off of that and

7:01

to do some draft day

7:03

moves and to hopefully

7:06

get somebody at that position later in

7:08

the draft. Now, the one thing that is blatantly

7:10

clear though, is the need for

7:13

the Arizona Cardinals to address the

7:15

wide receiver number one position

7:18

in this draft. They have to

7:20

address it. That is the one position group

7:23

that really has the

7:26

biggest holes in my opinion right now as

7:28

we sit here. So wherever

7:31

they do it, however they do it, it does need

7:33

to be addressed, and it will be addressed in the first round.

7:35

Offensively, certainly wide

7:37

receiver, and whether it's a number

7:39

one or a high caliber number two

7:42

to pair with Michael Wilson, you need someone

7:44

on that opposite side Paul to attract

7:46

defenses, so you're not just focusing on one

7:48

side of the football field.

7:50

No doubt. The question is just where does that guy come?

7:52

And look, if you take Marvin Harrison Junior

7:54

a number four and he's that guy for the next

7:56

decade, absolutely I'm with you,

7:58

Rob. In fact, the Lances are line

8:00

three point zero that dropped today that has Minnesota.

8:03

And this is a really popular line of thinking

8:05

that the Vikings went and got number eleven and number

8:07

twenty three just because they

8:09

want to move up and get JJ McCarthy

8:11

at four. Okay, it's not enough.

8:14

I don't think it's enough for you to go down to eleven

8:16

and twenty three. And in this scenario, he has

8:19

Moni pulling a strategy similar

8:21

to last year where he comes up to sixteen and

8:23

he gets Brian Thomas Junior at

8:25

number sixteen overall and then kool Aid mckinstrey

8:28

at number twenty seven. So you end up with three

8:30

first round picks and number eleven, by the way, would

8:32

be the edge Dallas Turner out of Alabama.

8:35

I just think there's enough competition between

8:37

Denver, the Raiders, the

8:39

Giants to go along with Minnesota for number

8:41

four. Overall, you should be able to leverage

8:44

that and get the QB surcharge

8:46

the little kicker, the retainer right.

8:48

Let the Cardinals wet their beak, so

8:51

to speak, and get a little bit extra and than just those

8:53

two first rounders.

8:54

Yeah, eleven and twenty three certainly not enough

8:56

because it's really just one additional first

8:58

round pick. You're swapping rounders

9:00

and then you're gaining one pick. You need

9:02

to gain two first round picks at

9:05

minimum before I make that decision

9:08

to move down, certainly to the team's

9:10

or at least number eleven, maybe

9:12

even twelve as well. Wide

9:14

receiver, though we talk about those top three

9:17

Marvin Harrison Junior, rumadoons a moleak

9:19

neighbors, very very talented.

9:21

Here's Cardinals gentle manager Manty Austin Ford.

9:24

We sometimes can over complicate

9:26

football. You know, a receiver's

9:28

job is to get open and to catch the ball, and

9:30

so they look different, they run

9:33

different, they're big, they're small.

9:36

But in the end of the day, if the guy

9:38

can get open and catch the ball, he's going to bring value.

9:40

There's a number of guys in this year's draft

9:43

at receiver that can do that, you know,

9:45

and I think they come from big schools,

9:47

small schools. Some are big,

9:49

some are small, Some ran real fast,

9:51

some didn't run as fast. So you know, it's

9:53

a good group. It's a good, deep group of guys to

9:56

work through.

9:56

The receivers though, that we're talking about here,

9:59

Rob when it's Harrison, Doonsay,

10:01

Neighbors, Thomas, they all have one thing

10:04

in common. Six feet two

10:06

hundred pounds, taller, bigger,

10:08

those taller, bigger wide receivers that I

10:11

believe is the wide receiver that Mani

10:13

wants on this team, that Jonathan Gannon

10:15

wants on his offense, because we've

10:17

seen that, whether that's previous draft

10:20

or previous signings in free agency.

10:23

Yeah, I think maybe in the past we've become

10:25

hypnotized with speed, with forty

10:27

yard speed, and when you look

10:29

at these guys, you're right, Marvin Harrison Junior probably

10:31

the most complete wide receiver out

10:33

there. When you look at the combination of size,

10:37

speed, route running, hands,

10:40

catch radius, Marvin Harrison Junior has

10:42

it all. Milik Neighbors again,

10:45

he's a physical type

10:47

of receiver, runs a yards after catch.

10:49

I really like Milik Neighbors and what he's

10:51

able to bring to the table. Roman Dunsay is just a

10:53

big man and a big wide receiver

10:56

when you talk about catch radious. So any

10:59

one of those three I think are okay. But

11:02

at four, you

11:04

know, Marvin Harrison Junior is the obvious

11:07

pick. But if we do slide back

11:09

and and and are able to pick up some

11:11

some draft capital from

11:13

that, you know, Brian Thomas Junior

11:15

is sitting there. And this is a guy that's big,

11:18

and he's fast and he can run. Now, the

11:20

question and being can he get off the press

11:22

man? Can he get off that press coverage at the line

11:24

of scrimmage. That's that's the big question mark for

11:26

him. But in terms of pushing the ball down

11:28

the field, Brian Thomas is as good

11:30

as it gets. And so there this Paul's

11:33

right, this is a very deep draft in

11:35

terms of wide receivers. And so Monty

11:38

I don't I don't envy him in the

11:40

in the decision he's going to have to make, but uh,

11:43

you know, there there, there certainly does need

11:45

to be in

11:48

an address. It needs to be addressed

11:50

the wide receiver position, certainly in the first

11:52

round.

11:52

And I just think another team will make Moni's

11:54

decision for him. I think ultimately

11:57

they'll make him an offer a can't refuse. What a coach

11:59

you say, Hey, we might have a battle for this

12:01

position. It's not my decision, it's your decision.

12:03

Some player is going to make this decision for me

12:06

out on the field. I think some other GM

12:08

is going to make the decision for Manias and Ford

12:10

and give him enough where he can't resist.

12:13

And I just had my eye on the Giants at

12:15

six, especially since the owner John Merra recently

12:18

signed off the leadership

12:20

going after a franchise QB in this draft.

12:23

Dropped down a couple of spots, gain

12:25

a pick or two maybe Day three,

12:28

and still draft one of those wide

12:30

receivers to pair with Michael Wilson to a true

12:32

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12:53

Firing your sighted Tipton picked off by Savan

12:55

Collins at the forty yard line of tackled

12:57

at the thirty seven huge

13:00

play for the Cardinals Bumble

13:03

the ball. The Cardinals have it

13:05

in their hands and it's their ball. Savan

13:08

Collins comes up with it. That's two takeaways

13:10

for Zavon Collins. Here in the first

13:12

half, short set in trouble, steps up and

13:15

takes a sack at the forty yard line,

13:17

saving Collins with the takedown.

13:20

By the way, did you see the last so sack?

13:23

Did just see the celebration from David

13:25

Collins.

13:26

Prescott sacked back at the twenty eight yard

13:28

line by Savan Collins.

13:30

Savan Collins did not take the bag. Burls

13:32

got it back to throw facing pressure.

13:34

He's sacked back at the thirty five yard

13:37

line, saving Collins with

13:39

the takedown.

13:40

And year

13:42

three but year one as

13:44

an outside linebacker. Some of the highlights

13:47

from twenty twenty three. Zavon Collins

13:49

playing a brand new position a

13:51

year ago under a brand new defensive

13:54

scheme and defensive coaches, and he made

13:56

the transition. I'll ask you Rob as we begin here

13:59

Segment two Cardinals Red Sea Report

14:01

Craig Riolou, Paul Klavs and Rob

14:03

Frederickson. You're one in a brand

14:05

new position. I do you

14:07

think Zavin did as an

14:10

edge rusher, whether that was moving forward to the

14:12

quarterback. We're going backwards dropping into

14:14

coverage.

14:14

Well, let me start by saying, it's not easy, Okay,

14:17

making that transition. And you think, well,

14:19

it's just outside linebacker. He's just he's just

14:21

pass rushing. How hard can that be? It's

14:24

it's incredibly difficult, especially if you've never

14:27

done that before. My

14:29

first year in the NFL, I was transitioned

14:31

into inside linebacker. I've never played that

14:33

before. It was incredibly difficult.

14:36

Uh, and it was it was a huge

14:38

year of growing pains. And you

14:40

know, uh, looking at Zavin's play

14:43

last year, I thought he was

14:45

very consistent, very strong

14:47

against the rush.

14:49

He's a guy that I think if

14:51

you looked at the film and

14:54

in the coach's minds, he probably

14:57

graded out very well. But

15:00

there weren't those splash plays. And

15:02

those are the plays that you expect out of outside

15:05

pass rusher, a guy that you need a guy

15:07

to get to the quarterback. You need a guy that's going

15:10

to create havoc in that backfield. And

15:12

Zavian does so much right. He

15:15

does so many things right, but

15:17

I just didn't see the the

15:20

you know, the explosiveness, the

15:23

the the splash plays that

15:25

that position really needs, and so I

15:28

like him. I'd love to have him on my team.

15:30

Honestly, I think he's a he's a

15:33

very talented young

15:35

player. But I kind

15:37

of liked him at inside linebacker, you know, I

15:39

think he was he was starting to kind

15:42

of, you know, get his footing and find his

15:44

way there, and then you know, out

15:46

of need, they moved him to the outside

15:48

and he and he did a very good job

15:50

on the outside. But you need more

15:52

splash, you need more production in terms of

15:54

sacks from that outside linebacking position.

15:57

Yeah, three and a half sacks. You would

15:59

expect as true edge rusher

16:01

that number to at least double. Dare

16:04

I say triple if you want to be among the elite

16:06

to Paul to Rob's point, Paul, it's three

16:09

and a half sacks. It's not a number that

16:11

wows you as an edge rusher, but

16:13

it goes to what were the coaches

16:15

asking him to do and how many times

16:17

did he actually have a true rush to the quarterback.

16:20

I remember at the start of training camp

16:22

and Dennis Gardek was asked about making the

16:24

transition to outside linebacker in the edge,

16:26

and he said, it's so much easier in terms of

16:29

the thinking that goes along with a position than

16:31

what he was playing. He went from the mike linebacker

16:33

the year before, calling the defense, all the checks,

16:35

all the adjustments. Dennis Gardeck said,

16:37

it really boils down to off the edge, either the place

16:39

coming at you or it's going away from you. And

16:43

to that point, it was interesting to hear Jonathan

16:45

Gannon at the breakfast meeting at the

16:47

NFL Owners Meetings when asked about Zavin

16:49

Collins, and I have the quote right here he

16:51

said, at that position, there's times where

16:53

we talked to him about look Savan, you

16:56

just got to cut it loose. You can't

16:58

overthink this, right And

17:01

so okay, Now, maybe he's

17:03

a little more comfortable, he's got the reps of the position.

17:06

Maybe he will think less and react

17:08

more because the measurables are there.

17:10

The athleticism is there. In coverage,

17:13

he can run with backs and tight

17:15

ends. He's excellent in coverage. But it's

17:17

coming off the edge and getting to the quarterback and to Rob's

17:20

point, making those splash plays. So maybe

17:22

in this year, which is a critical year in

17:25

his evolution as a player and a contract

17:27

year, maybe this is where he just

17:29

goes all right, here, we go hair on fire.

17:31

I'm getting to the quarterback.

17:32

First big decision that needs to be made is

17:35

coming up first week of May. Do

17:37

the Cardinals exercise that fifth

17:39

year option. Here's gentle manager Monti Austin

17:41

Ford back at the combine in Indianapolis,

17:45

you know.

17:45

In terms of the fifth year option, and we got some time

17:47

on that. Again, it's a part of the bigger discussion

17:49

as it goes to building our roster, just

17:51

a roster construction not only for twenty

17:53

twenty four, but twenty twenty five. So you know,

17:56

we'll work through that. But certainly excited that

17:58

we have Zevan Zavon I thought again made

18:00

great strives last year and we're excited.

18:02

I think he's going to make another step this year.

18:04

Cardinals just might want to see more

18:06

from Zavon and it will be well passed

18:08

that decision to exercise the option.

18:11

Rob But going into potentially

18:13

a free agent year, did they see

18:15

enough out of Zavon as a true edge

18:17

rusher two years worth of film, two

18:19

years worth within this defense, and say all right,

18:22

yeah, we like you as an edge rusher. We'll

18:24

bring you back. We didn't pick up that fifth year

18:26

option, doesn't mean you can't come back and continue

18:28

your career with the Cardinals. We just now

18:31

have now other

18:34

teams that potentially might be interested in

18:36

you. Now George Shut's decision on

18:38

whether you want to come back. But a second

18:41

year as an edge rusher, and considering

18:44

how well he looked at times

18:46

in year one, how much better potentially

18:48

can he be with a full offseason

18:51

where he's not maybe thinking as much

18:53

to Paul's point, and just reacting

18:55

on the football field.

18:56

Yeah, whe whether or not Zavon Collins

18:59

pans out as an outside pass rusher,

19:01

I think he is everything that

19:05

Jonathan Gannon, Montejas and fort are

19:07

looking for in a football player. Saman

19:09

Collins is a football player and

19:12

now the outside pass rush. Uh,

19:14

the outside linebacker position might might

19:16

not be the position for him, might not, you

19:18

know, But but inside linebacker, I think that's

19:21

a position where he could he could fit

19:23

in. But but at the end

19:25

of the day, he is a football player. He's like

19:27

Dennis Kardak and that he's multiple. He

19:29

can play outside, he can play inside.

19:32

I really like him, and I think

19:35

he fits into the culture

19:37

and fits into what they're trying to build

19:39

here. He embodies that

19:41

player. The player that that Jonathan

19:43

Gannon is looking for and so

19:47

I you, I hope he does. Fore you up, I

19:49

hope he does. Let it loose on the outside.

19:51

And look, you know, look you ask

19:53

ask Kyle Van Dedmasch this. You have to learn

19:55

pass rush moves. You have to you have to know

19:57

them, you have to have an arsenal, you have to have a backup player

20:00

and when you're rushing. These are all new

20:02

things to him last year. So hopefully

20:04

this this year, you know, he's gotten in the offseason.

20:07

He's getting with some guys, some gurus that understand

20:09

how to pass rush and the hand placement

20:11

and the movement and the leverage. These

20:14

these are things that are learned. It takes time.

20:16

It's yeah, it's easier, Dennis gard I

20:18

said, it's you know, it's either coming two year or it's going

20:20

away. Okay, that's that's a simplistic

20:23

version of it. There's a lot more that goes into

20:25

it than just that, and learning

20:27

the art of pass rushing is

20:29

not something that you just pick up on day one. So

20:32

you know, I'd give Zaving Collins some grace

20:34

in terms of you know, just

20:37

just having that first year to learn.

20:39

But this year there's going to be higher

20:41

expectations for sure.

20:43

And remember this front office did not draft

20:45

saving Collins, and in the four

20:47

draft classes now leading up to last

20:49

year nineteen twenty one, twenty

20:52

nineteen, twenty twenty one, and twenty two, only six

20:54

of thirty two draft picks remain. Now saving

20:57

Collins, what's his future? I bring this up because

20:59

the existing front office saw him

21:01

coming out of Tulsa as an outside edge guy,

21:04

whereas the previous front office that drafted

21:06

and saw him as an inside linebacker. So

21:09

what did Jonathan Gannon monte asen Fort perhaps

21:12

learn last year? Do they use him differently

21:14

this year? We talk about mac Wilson

21:16

maybe being an X factor all over that front.

21:18

I could see Zavon Collins being a bit

21:20

of an X factor, you know, in a certain

21:23

pass rushing situation he's coming off the edge

21:25

and more of a rundown. You're going to

21:27

a four to three and he comes off the ball. Maybe

21:30

there he is mugging the a gap like a Micah

21:32

Parson's. We remember he was the next

21:34

linebacker drafted after Micah Parsons in

21:36

that draft. So do you use him in a similar way

21:39

because he has the size and the speed

21:41

to be able to hold up basically anywhere in that front

21:43

seven.

21:43

Well, Zavian was asked to drop into

21:45

coverage a lot more, and he excelled in that. His

21:48

quarterback rating according to Pro Football

21:50

Reference was forty one wow,

21:53

compared to ninety four his first two

21:55

years in the league. So they are

21:57

finding ways to utilize his skill

21:59

set. Let's go back to the end of last

22:01

season. The most recent time that we got to hear

22:03

from Zavon Collins' defensive coordinator,

22:06

Nick Rollis on what he saw from

22:08

Xavon Collins.

22:09

Anytime you move positions, there's just gonna

22:11

be a little bit of a transition, and

22:14

his intelligence is through the roof. So we

22:17

actually have him do probably

22:19

above and beyond what that the standard

22:22

job requirement for that position of moving them

22:24

all over the place, ask him to do things

22:27

in coverage and rush that you wouldn't

22:29

normally ask that position to do. So he's

22:32

ascending with his game in every element,

22:34

the run game, pass rush, dropping in a coverage

22:37

Looking back, I'm really glad we did it because

22:39

it was a huge benefit for us to have

22:41

him in that spot.

22:42

Bottom line, and Rob brought it up already

22:44

Xavon Collins is a football player. There is a

22:46

spot on this team for him. There is a role

22:49

within this defense for him beyond this

22:51

season, at least in my opinion, because

22:54

of what he brings as far as the intelligence

22:57

and the physicality as well. It's just okay,

22:59

can you figure out where the

23:01

best spot is? And then

23:04

it's up to Zavion as well Paul to sit there

23:06

and say, all right, let me take the

23:08

next level. I've been taught. I go through

23:10

extra time, whether that's with Rob Rodriguez

23:12

on the side during practice off

23:15

days, put in in the time,

23:17

but now we need to see it on the football field.

23:20

And he's been in this building quite a bit in the off season.

23:22

I think he realizes the importance of this coming

23:25

campaign. And honestly,

23:27

if you put a Kaizer White out there with a mac

23:29

Wilson and a Zaemon Collins and they're all interchangeable

23:31

to some degree in certain pass rush

23:34

situations, all of a sudden, it's mack Wilson on

23:36

the edge like the Patriots used him

23:38

the last six weeks. Kyle Vannabosch for one,

23:40

very impressed by the bend of a mac Wilson

23:42

off the edge. And then boom, Zamon Collins

23:44

comes off the ball as that weak inside

23:47

linebacker next to a Kaiser

23:49

White. I could see that. I could if Nick

23:51

Rawl showed us one thing last year, it's the ability

23:54

to be very creative and use a lot of different

23:56

front sevens and alignments and looks

23:58

and try and keep the quarterback scenes. So

24:00

I'm real curious how they utilize

24:02

Zavon Collins, especially if they go after

24:04

an edge guy in round one and a Bgojilari

24:07

is taking the next step, then all right,

24:09

maybe you do need to find different ways to use Zavion

24:12

Collins just to keep him on the field.

24:13

It's a good point because edge rush

24:15

would be another priority for me considering

24:18

the lack of a pass rush a year ago

24:20

as far as the total number of sacks. But if

24:22

this front office does draft,

24:24

whether that's in round one or day

24:26

two, and edge rusher, now all of a sudden,

24:29

yeah you've got depth there, Rob, but maybe

24:31

it's with Zaven Collins in mind, then

24:33

okay, we can we can have some fun with

24:36

Zavin a little bit. To Paul's point, maybe play

24:38

him multiple roles because we've got

24:41

Ojilarian, we've got whoever we just drafted

24:43

as potential edge rushers that we know are

24:46

gonna go up the football field.

24:47

Yeah, there certainly needs to be an improvement in terms

24:49

of sacks for the Arizona Cardinals

24:52

in twenty twenty four. You look at thirty three

24:54

sacks last year, thirtieth in the league

24:57

in terms of just getting sacks,

24:59

and that's that's something that needs to

25:01

be addressed, whether it's in the draft

25:03

or moving guys around, or

25:05

maybe they just a natural evolution of a

25:07

guy like Zavian Collins. And so that

25:11

certainly is a concern for the Cardinals and

25:13

they are going to address it, whether it's in the

25:15

draft or free agency, or just

25:17

getting more out of a guy like Zadan Collins. But I

25:20

do like his versatility. I do like

25:22

the fact that he's a

25:24

guy that has played inside linebacker

25:26

before and it may be a more

25:28

natural position for him, but he

25:31

is very good in past coverage. He's

25:33

good, solid against the run. It's

25:35

just those pass rush moves that need to be worked

25:37

on, and hopefully this offseason is something where

25:40

he's addressed it and working on it and it'll

25:42

get better next year.

25:43

What happens if Dallas

25:46

Turner is the selection Jared Verse

25:48

is a selection with that first

25:51

pick, if you draft or if you trade

25:53

down, and all of a sudden, it's okay, well we

25:55

have depth again, and Zavon, we're going to ask

25:57

you to do a lot of different things. Just

26:00

try not to overthink it too much.

26:02

Exactly once again, come in full circle. Just

26:04

cut a loose, use your athleticism, your

26:06

size. You're six ' five two sixty

26:08

plus. You can really move.

26:11

So to Jonathan Gannon's comments at

26:13

that breakfast meeting with the media, play

26:15

more think less. But

26:18

to Rob's point, it's got to be innate.

26:21

And when you're new to a position. Okay,

26:23

so now this is a critical year. Can

26:26

he adapt? Can he evolve? Can he be that guy off

26:28

the edge getting to the quarterback?

26:29

Speaking of getting to the quarterback, how about just

26:31

the quarterback position itself? Desmond

26:34

Ritter is our topic as we continue

26:36

here. It's the Cardinals Red Sea Report on

26:38

the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, snap.

26:45

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again on the play fake, play fake by Ridder.

26:59

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27:01

who makes the Cats toots down Atlanta?

27:04

Holy smoke, Desmond.

27:06

Just look that's Jesse up in the air to

27:08

Jon Robinson.

27:10

This is a tremendous reason by

27:12

Desmond Ridder.

27:16

Twelve touchdowns over fifteen games,

27:18

including thirteen starts,

27:20

one against the Arizona Cardinals

27:23

and it was a win. Cardinals,

27:26

welcoming Desmond Ritter to the fold

27:28

as your potential QB number

27:31

two. Clayton tune in that room as well.

27:33

We'll have a say in that this offseason

27:35

and training camp. But as we continue here on

27:37

the Cardinals Red Sea Report, Greg rayalupalk

27:39

ALVC and Rob Frederickson talking about

27:41

the backup quarterback. And to be honest,

27:43

Paul, maybe this is the only time we

27:46

talk about the backup quarterback because we just

27:48

talk. We don't want to see the backup quarterback.

27:51

The second most important player on the team

27:53

is the guy you never want to see out on the field, Desmond

27:56

Ridder. And look, there's a lot to like

27:58

in this signing. He's gonna turn twenty five in August,

28:01

he has seventeen career starts. He's

28:03

going to cost you just over a million dollars

28:05

each in the next two seasons. Similar

28:08

skill set to Kyler Murray. In fact,

28:10

he says he has to adjust now a lot of people reminding

28:12

him he's no longer the most athletic quarterback

28:15

in the QB room, and I'm just curious

28:17

to see how he assimilates into

28:20

this system. And you know, the Arthur

28:22

Smith offense, you know, gave him a run

28:24

oriented offense, which I think Drew Petsen

28:26

will do as well. But he fully

28:28

admitted and owned some of his errors

28:30

of his ways and said there were costly

28:32

mistakes in critical times

28:35

and that happens to a young quarterback. So

28:37

you know what, if he can block out the noise and all

28:39

the leaf blowers that are around him, you know, so

28:41

to speak, and he can get out there and just focus

28:44

boom. I think there's a lot to work with here

28:46

if you're Jonathan Gannon in company.

28:48

And to Ritter's credit, Rob

28:50

hearing him mention that, yeah, I did

28:53

not live up to my own expectations

28:55

of my own performance a year ago

28:58

and was aware that perhaps the foul Holkins

29:00

would go in a different direction, and they did.

29:02

He became expendable and here, he is

29:05

maybe having to reinvent himself coming

29:07

in knowing that, yeah, Kyler is the guy,

29:10

but I need to prepare as if I am this daughter,

29:12

because who knows when my name will

29:14

be called? Is it going to be week one, Is it going

29:16

to be week ten? Maybe never? But you have

29:18

to make sure you are at the ready for

29:20

any moment that that starter goes

29:23

down.

29:23

Yeah, he had twelve touchdowns, but he also had

29:25

twelve interceptions, so that's

29:28

you know, that's those are the mistakes that you

29:30

can't have and you have to alleviate those.

29:32

But he does have experience

29:35

and he got a lot of game experience

29:37

last season. He's a guy you

29:39

mentioned it. You know, he's athletic, he fits

29:42

the mold. He's a

29:44

player that you know, certainly,

29:46

I think Jonathan Gannon and the Arizona

29:49

Cardinals offense would be comfortable

29:51

with if there was a situation where

29:53

Kyler is not available, that Desmond

29:55

Ritter could go in there and run this offense

29:58

and handle the workload and handle

30:00

the situation. Clayton Tune is always an option.

30:03

But you know, he's a guy that you'd like to develop

30:05

further, And by development, I mean

30:07

sitting and watching and really

30:10

going through the mental reps, and that's you

30:12

know, that's really the future for

30:14

Clayton tune right now at this time. But Desmond

30:16

Ritter is the backup quarterback and very

30:19

capable. And Paul's right, you know, as

30:22

much as it pains me to say, the

30:24

second most important person on the roster

30:26

is the backup quarterback because you look at

30:28

it, you look at the injury rate for quarterbacks.

30:31

You look at the injuries that you saw last season.

30:33

In terms of the number of quarterbacks

30:35

that actually started NFL games.

30:37

Was what sixty seven I believe.

30:39

Sixty seven quarterbacks

30:42

starting an NFL game last season. And

30:45

that is the most important position of

30:47

any team is the quarterback who's playing

30:49

the quarterback. So you have to have a

30:52

competent, athletic quarterback

30:55

at the second position that can run

30:57

and orchestrate your offense and give you an opportunity

31:00

to win the game.

31:00

I think of two years ago, you went from Kyler

31:03

to Colt McCoy, David blou Trace

31:05

mcsorlely. So to have someone with

31:07

actual starting experience, someone who's won

31:09

games, because dare I say, Robin, you've been in

31:11

the locker room the worst situation you can

31:13

have as a backup quarterback that the locker

31:15

room does not believe in. If

31:18

they think no QB, then there's no

31:20

chance the bottom will fall out. You will

31:22

go into a game and guess what, you

31:24

will not win because the guys will

31:26

not believe in the backup quarterback. And I

31:28

think Desmond Ritter is one of those guys who's been there

31:30

and done that. Sure it's only been two seasons,

31:32

but he's engineered enough w's. In fact,

31:34

his first career win was against the Cardinals back

31:36

in twenty twenty two, second to last game in

31:38

the season. So that to me

31:41

is the most critical element of being a backup

31:43

quarterback. That in the fact that when Cole McCoy,

31:45

you had the belief of the locker room, came in. He had to change

31:47

the offense so radically from Kyler

31:49

to Colt McCoy. That's no longer necessary.

31:51

Experience matters, especially as a

31:54

backup quarterback. Most recently

31:56

last week, in fact, Big Red Rage Dave Patch

31:58

Voice of the Cardinals, I've seen some football.

32:01

He talked about the impact Desmond

32:03

Ridder might make for this Cardinals team.

32:05

He is the perfect backup

32:08

because if something

32:11

happens to your starter. He can

32:13

get you not just through a game, he can get

32:15

you through a series of games. He's really

32:17

talented and he's a winner. You look at what he did

32:19

at Cincinnati. I think

32:21

that was a tremendous move to

32:24

get Desmond Ridder. You

32:26

know, I think Clayton Tune's got a chance, but

32:29

we saw when he played he's a ways away.

32:31

Desmond Ritter is more ready to step

32:34

in and be that guy.

32:36

Seventeen total starts, eight

32:38

wins, including you mentioned it, Paul of the

32:40

Cardinals in twenty twenty two. Yeah, Desmond

32:42

Ritter is here and again. Going

32:44

back to his introductory press conference,

32:47

most recently speaking to Arizona

32:49

reporters, again the acknowledgment that,

32:52

yeah, last season was not his best

32:54

season. Riddle, though, knows what he needs

32:56

to improve upon.

32:59

One thing I want to proof was just going out there playing

33:01

free. A lot of the times I felt like,

33:04

you know, I was playing not to mess it up, not to screw

33:06

it up. A lot of good things that I

33:08

did on film, and then there were some bad things, and

33:10

it just happened to be that those bad things outweighed

33:13

the goods. But you know, there was a

33:15

lot of a lot of the games where it was ninety percent

33:17

good and ten percent bad, and then those ten percent

33:20

that just happened to be the determining factor of

33:22

the game. And so taking from those

33:24

goods and the bads that I learned and that land over

33:26

the past two years and being able to transform

33:28

them into something better here in Arizona.

33:31

Goes back to our conversation about Zavin Collins

33:33

and maybe overthinking things a little

33:35

bit. Did Desmond Ritter outthink

33:38

himself at times last

33:40

season? Was he trying to be too

33:42

perfect? And then when you're trying to be too perfect

33:44

on the football field, rob you tend to make

33:46

mistakes. And there's that ten percent that all

33:49

of a sudden, instead of leading the game

33:51

or perhaps winning the game, now you're

33:53

on the other side. And that's why the Falcons

33:55

made the change.

33:56

Yeah, there's an old saying in football that make

33:59

sure every offense possession ends in a

34:01

kick, right, either a punt or

34:03

a field goal or an extra point. You

34:05

know, so you have to you

34:07

have to eliminate those turnovers, You have to eliminate

34:10

those massive mistakes. Yeah, they may only

34:12

count for ten percent. You may have done ninety percent

34:15

of things right, but that ten percent

34:18

when it becomes a turnover which

34:20

directly relates to points for the other team,

34:23

you can't have it. Those are things that affect the

34:25

outcomes of games. And so if

34:28

Desmond Ritter can can just learn

34:30

to hold on to the ball, you

34:32

know, and conduct the offense and just make

34:34

sure that every possession ends in a kick, he's

34:36

got an opportunity to be a really good backup

34:38

in this league.

34:39

And to your point about him potentially overthinking

34:41

it, and what he said in response to our

34:44

question about hey, you said

34:46

to the fact you didn't play your best ball, that's

34:48

his synopsis of last

34:50

year. And then you know, I asked him, okay, how where,

34:53

why, what do you want to improve on? And that's what

34:55

he said, and need to play more free. We'll think about it.

34:58

His job was hanging in the balance during

35:00

the season. He got benched twice for Taylor

35:02

Heineke. There was a Week eight loss

35:05

and then boom, Taylor Heineke came in,

35:07

didn't do much better. They lost two more and

35:09

then he came in. He won a couple of games, they had

35:12

a chance to take over first in the poor NFC

35:14

South, and then in week fifteen, he

35:16

threw a pick in the red zone that cost

35:19

them a game against Carolina. They

35:21

lost nine to seven. Then he got benched again, So

35:24

in particular, some of his red zone

35:26

decision making was lacking. As

35:28

a young quarterback, you gotta figure Drew Petsy's

35:30

going to work with him on that and have a pretty dynamic offense,

35:32

a lot of different weapons in a top

35:35

four run game at his disposal.

35:37

So hopefully all that plus maturing

35:40

and seeing the game now from the sideline behind

35:42

Kyler Murray, hopefully that all adds to his

35:44

growth.

35:44

Ritter was operating on a short lease last

35:47

season, so any little mistake became

35:49

a major mistake, and he couldn't overcome

35:52

those mistakes. How many times have we seen here,

35:54

Kyler Murray, you make that mistake and then immediately

35:57

get back on the football field lead a touchdown

35:59

drive. Don't know how many many times

36:01

Ritter actually had that opportunity to

36:03

overcome the mistakes, learn from the mistakes

36:06

asap, rob and then get

36:08

his team back that confidence in

36:10

him. As far as leaving the offense.

36:12

It's hard as a quarterback to know that

36:15

you have a short leash, to know that any little

36:18

mistake, any interception, I'm going to

36:20

be yanked. That's hard to be

36:22

successful when you have that kind of that cloud

36:24

hanging over you. So you

36:27

know, you never want that as a quarterback.

36:29

As a starting quarterback, it's all about confidence,

36:31

and it's all about, you know, just being

36:34

able to be free and throw the ball and

36:36

go through your progressions, go through your reads and understand

36:39

where you're going to go with the ball and deliver it

36:41

and not have to worry about if

36:44

I make a mistake, if I throw this ball in there

36:46

and it gets tipped, I'm going to get

36:48

benched. You can't have that. You can't you know, you

36:50

can't be effective in this league when you

36:52

have that situation kind of hanging over you.

36:54

We think about last season and the big Cardinals

36:56

win at Philadelphia in the big second half

36:58

from Kyler Murray. Don't forget he threw a

37:00

ninety nine yard pick six in that game.

37:03

Had to come back from that, and he did. But

37:05

to your point, Craig, he was given the chance

37:08

to work his way out of that deficit to make

37:10

up for that mistake, which ultimately wasn't completely

37:12

or even entirely his mistake because Michael Wilson

37:15

took ownership of it later. But that's the

37:17

sort of thing when the job is yours,

37:19

guess what there's gonna be those moments.

37:22

I mean, you saw Carson Palmer

37:24

back in the day. There was the four interception

37:26

game that he turned into a win at Seattle.

37:29

Once upon a time, Kurt Warner had

37:31

multiple interception games and then rebound

37:33

the next week and throw five touchdowns.

37:35

Either were more touchdown passes and incompletion.

37:38

So there's something about the luxury of

37:40

being the guy, being able to make mistakes

37:42

because they will happen in the NFL, and

37:44

just.

37:44

Being comfortable in your situation. And how much

37:46

more comfortable is Desmond going to be

37:48

knowing that he's not the guy and

37:51

he can maybe wouldn't say relax, but

37:53

push Kyler a little bit, learn

37:56

himself within this offense. And who

37:58

knows, maybe if it's not with the Cardinals

38:00

because you've got your guy, it's somewhere

38:02

else down the line. Because teams, we've seen

38:05

Paul, they're always looking for that

38:07

quarterback, because teams they're

38:09

not very patient when it comes to that position.

38:11

And you know what it gets us through the preseason. Okay,

38:14

we manufacture some sort of cheap

38:16

QB competition to get us through the month August.

38:18

Don't put it past us. We've done it before. All

38:21

of a sudden, we get to see Desmond Ritter and Clayton

38:23

Tune battle it out. Can they push Kyler Murray

38:25

in August? We'll see, Yeah, that's.

38:27

Just not happening. I'm gonna squash that right

38:29

here. Guy's got to work with it in the first week of

38:32

April. By the way, Paul

38:34

dropped Carson Palmer's name. We'll

38:36

continue to talk about Carson

38:38

as we continue here on the Arizona Cardinals

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38:48

Cardinal debut. Carson Palmer

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I could really change the entire paradigm

38:52

for the Arizona Cardinals and this franchise.

38:55

Beautiful throw by Carson Palmer.

38:57

That is a big time throw by Carson.

39:00

The passes on the money. It's hout of the tunny pet

39:02

the ten in the five tucks down.

39:05

Palmer slinging a date sixty

39:08

four yard Palmer in the pocket

39:10

looks deep.

39:10

Fire's middle of the field going for John Brown.

39:13

He caught it at the thirty and the twenty

39:15

ten five Crooki tucks

39:17

down.

39:18

Oh what a throw.

39:20

By Carson Palmer dropping

39:22

a dime in a donut.

39:25

Carson Palmer, you are a

39:27

stud.

39:28

Carson Palmer somehow got out

39:30

of trouble and found a wide

39:32

open fits seventy five

39:35

yards.

39:36

Oh baby, Carson

39:38

Palmer doing a whirly bird

39:40

in the pocket, somehow

39:43

got out of presser's way and

39:45

saw Larry Fitzgerald on

39:48

the other side of the field and

39:50

threw.

39:51

It while moving on the run.

39:53

And then Larry Fitzgerald

39:55

the legend, took over and

39:57

did the.

39:58

Wrest five

40:00

seasons, thirty eight wins,

40:03

including a memorable run in twenty

40:05

fifteen. And to think Paul,

40:07

it began on this day in

40:10

twenty thirteen for just

40:12

a sixth round pick and

40:14

a conditional seventh and

40:16

twenty fourteen Cardinals also receiving

40:19

a seventh round pick in that trade with

40:21

the then Oakland Raiders. Yes,

40:23

one of those deals that, Yeah, I think it

40:25

worked out for the Cardinals.

40:27

I vividly remember sitting in the press conference

40:30

with then GM Steve Kim and Carson Palmer

40:32

right outside this wall, and

40:34

Kime talking about how he watched the film,

40:37

how Carson Palmer was available and

40:39

he went and grabbed the film and watched every

40:41

game from his final year with the Raiders, he said,

40:43

what's the problem here? So now,

40:45

the Raiders had a lot of problems that year because the Cardinals

40:48

had played them, but Carson

40:50

Palmer didn't. And as a former number one pick

40:52

overall, a guy still in his prime

40:55

who had some issues in Cincinnati,

40:57

and that ended poorly with ownership there. I

40:59

mean, seventh round pick ultimately

41:02

is what it amounted to in return for Carson

41:04

Palmer, a guy who not only played at

41:06

a Pro Bowl level, but really

41:08

was a coach out on the field.

41:10

I ended up running those Friday practices

41:12

for Bruce Arians. BA were just outsourced it

41:15

to Carson Palmer. He'd run the entire offense on a Friday

41:17

of game week.

41:18

It was Bruce Arians. It was Carson

41:20

Palmer, including a number of other players. But if

41:22

you have that head coach, quarterback

41:25

dynamic rob then all of a sudden, yeah,

41:27

just uplifts everyone else on the team.

41:29

And it did for those five seasons with the Cardinals.

41:31

Well I did I mean Carson Palmer just a

41:33

big arm, big talent, big

41:36

big player. He was not the most mobile, all right, that

41:38

wasn't his game. But you know, Bruce Arians

41:40

and this Arizona Cardinals. Back then, they

41:42

weren't they weren't asking him to scramble

41:45

and that I think that was part of his problem

41:48

with the Raiders is just the offensive line

41:50

and he was just getting beat up. And he came

41:52

here and really it was like catching

41:54

magic in a bottle, really with Carson Palmer

41:57

coming here and Fitz

41:59

was, you know, so many times

42:01

the benefactor of the Carson Palmer

42:04

throws and just what he was able to do. So it

42:06

was a great time for Arizona Cardinals, was a great

42:08

time for like you said, Craig,

42:11

you know, just that coach player

42:13

coach quarterback relationship

42:16

and what that can do for a franchise.

42:18

And you saw it and we're hopefully seeing

42:20

it. We saw it a year ago with Jonathan

42:22

Gannon and Kyler Murray, but now we hope to see

42:24

more of it in the years to come, because

42:27

that's what you need. You need that relationship

42:29

between head coach and quarterback. Jonathan

42:32

Gannon at the NFL Annual League Meeting

42:34

on his relationship with k One.

42:36

We started from scratch and you

42:39

know, everything that I've that we've

42:41

asked of him, he's went above and

42:43

beyond.

42:44

If you watch the tape.

42:45

You know why I'm convicted and the

42:48

other things that he brings to the table

42:50

as a person, as a teammate,

42:52

as a competitor.

42:54

I absolutely love like saddle me.

42:56

Up, let's go, you know, just from

42:58

a standpoint of respect and love

43:01

and care.

43:02

And we kind of hit it off.

43:04

Cardinals and Kyler Murray.

43:06

It is a marriage that the brand

43:08

new general manager and the brand new head coach were

43:11

committed and they did not waiver one

43:13

bit the entire season off

43:15

of that, despite some of the outside noise

43:18

and then not being able to see Kyler for the first

43:20

half of last season. But it's

43:22

a different relationship that a head coach

43:24

has is with a quarterback versus the offensive

43:27

coordinator, or versus a position coach

43:29

versus the other teammates, because that quarterback

43:31

acts as a coach on the field.

43:33

And you know, it'd be easy to dismiss a

43:36

quote like that as just coach speak, but we saw

43:38

it in training camp Jonathan Gannon and Kyler

43:40

Murray, who was still coming back from injury and couldn't participate,

43:43

standing thirty yards behind the defense talking

43:45

ball and Kyler asking Jonathan Ganna, awright,

43:47

what are you doing? Here, Why are you scheming

43:49

this up? What are you trying to do to the quarterback? Help

43:51

me understand it from a defensive coordinator perspective,

43:55

And then just toasting Jonathan Gannon's TV show

43:57

all season long. I can't tell you how many times

43:59

Gann would say, you know what, that big play

44:01

or that touchdown throw, that was the third read,

44:04

that was the fourth read. Kyler grew

44:06

in this offense. And if you look

44:08

at the last three Pro Bowl quarterbacks for the

44:10

Arizona Cardinals, Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer,

44:12

Kyler Murray, well, Carson and Kirk

44:14

Warner obviously had the ability to beat you from

44:16

the pocket. That's the next challenge for Kyler

44:19

Murray. We knew he has the ridiculous skill set,

44:21

but can he hang in the pocket read the defense.

44:23

He has the arm talent, now he has to beat

44:26

you with his mind. And I think we saw more and more

44:28

of that as last season progressed.

44:29

And real quick where it's now an offseason

44:32

where Kyler doesn't have to worry one bit about rehab,

44:34

maybe some maintenance, but just focus strictly

44:37

on x's and o's.

44:38

Yeah, that's such an advantage for Kyler,

44:40

especially going going into the next

44:42

season for this offense and just his

44:44

evolution within this offense. But I'd also

44:46

like to say, I've never had a coach say respect,

44:49

love, care about me.

44:52

Why don't where are these coaches

44:54

at day? They weren't around when I was up.

44:56

Because you were playing defense and it was old school,

44:58

all right. They grab your faith and let you

45:00

have it.

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45:03

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