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Red Sea Report - Monti Ossenfort Holds All The Cards In The NFL Draft

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Tuesday, 26th March 2024
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So the fifteen of the ten, He's gonna score

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Here queen go one

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hand to catch it a touchdown?

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Oh baby, how's that fail?

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Here's Craiggriolu, Paul Calvic,

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and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.

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So outside of a four to five week

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window endo June early

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July, the NFL has a stranglehold

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on the calendar and that

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will is made perfectly clear this

1:01

week the NFL Annual

1:04

League Meeting taking place in Orlando.

1:06

A lot of news and dare

1:08

I say, Kyle that we have to give credit to

1:10

our co host over here, Paul Calvic, because

1:14

not so much the rule changes and what

1:16

the commissioner had to say, but the buzz

1:18

that is surrounding the Arizona Cardinals around

1:20

that fourth overall pick, and dare I

1:22

say that maybe quarterback

1:25

go one, two, three and four?

1:28

All Right, I'm gonna stop short of ever given Paully

1:30

credit for anything.

1:32

I teed that up for you.

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Okay, he's usually grasping at straws, and every once

1:35

in a while he gets.

1:36

Like Kyle once again, let there be a

1:38

fourth QB as long as the Cardinals don't

1:40

draft that QB. Attention, Mike Tannanball,

1:42

We'll get to that momentarily.

1:44

What is going on? Silly season right

1:46

now? Now? But yeah, this look,

1:48

they're sitting in a great position,

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and I know a lot of talk has already

1:52

happened, a lot more talk about what could possibly

1:55

happen is is down the road, possibly

1:58

daily with all the mock drafts coming out, But

2:00

sitting in a great position. I mean, we

2:02

had hoped it would go one, two, three, just

2:04

so we could get Marvin Harrison

2:07

junior. But now you

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know, there's a lot of talk of so many

2:11

teams looking to get a quarterback and possibly

2:13

trying to get that other quarterback

2:15

at number four, that you

2:17

know we can sit pat knowing we potentially

2:20

have a generational type talent sitting

2:22

there for us at number four, or we can just

2:24

take whatever offers come our way, knowing

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that we aren't motivated to move right. You

2:31

know what I love? You

2:33

know, mantiasa Fort there's

2:36

a lot of talk. Well, even if we take Marvin Harrison

2:38

Junior, the Arizona Cardinals aren't

2:40

just one player away. But if you

2:42

look at what a generational type

2:45

receiver can do for a team, I think back

2:47

to twenty twenty when the Cincinnati

2:49

Bengals won four games. Joe

2:51

Burrow was hurt. They were talking that they

2:53

had to go offensive tackle, they had to go o line, they

2:55

had to find a way to protect Joe

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Burrow. And what did they do. They took Jamar Cha at

3:00

number five and they were in the Super Bowl the

3:02

next year. And obviously they made other additions

3:04

and Joe Burrow's health was a big factor

3:06

that they got into the super Bowl that next year.

3:08

But that's what a dynamic wide

3:11

receiver. Somebody that garners the attention of the

3:13

defense, Somebody that's gonna draw double teams, somebody

3:16

that can catch the ball in traffic. That's what

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they can do for your team. So in no way

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are even if we're not looking

3:23

to move, teams know that, and

3:25

they're gonna have to sweeten the pot. And it's not just

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looking at a chart, and it's not even just paying

3:30

the quarterback tax that teams have to pay

3:32

to move up. It's you've got

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to make me move off of this pick. We

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are certainly happy staying at four and taking

3:38

Marvin Harrison Junior, but you

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better offer the house if you want

3:43

to come up to four and make us get off this pick.

3:45

And I don't think there's just gonna be one offer,

3:47

Paul. I think there's going to be multiple

3:50

offers teams looking to get

3:52

into that fourth slot, and then Monty

3:54

can just say, all right, well this is what I

3:56

have. Are you willing to go higher? And then he has

3:58

to make that decision is it a enough to move.

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Off of that spot.

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That's why when Sean Payton brought it up at these

4:03

owners meetings, right, it was interesting couple of things.

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One, he's on a first name basis with Monty

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and vice versa, Monty talking about Sean.

4:10

So that's curious because you know the Broncos

4:13

aren't letting George Peyton run the show anymore.

4:15

The two time Seahawks team MVP George

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Payton, who has employment in

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the Broncos front office after the Russell Wilson

4:22

disaster. Epic and historic

4:24

in every way. But if I'm maniasin

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for and Sean Payton is calling him saying, Okay,

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let me get back to you, because I've got the Giants

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online two, I have a Minnesota

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online three, and then I have the Raiders

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online four and maybe even the Jets.

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So yes, Craig, there's plenty of competition,

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you would think.

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The big topic conversation

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on Monday during the AFC Breakfast

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with head coaches the Broncos head

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coach Sean Payton what we've been talking about here

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his thoughts on Manti

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Asin for courtesy Andrew Mason

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of Denver Sports dot Com.

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I think it's realistic.

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What's hard to predict, though, is

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like what's on the receiving end. I

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think it's good to be Monty today at

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Arizona, right, It's hard to predict

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what that cost is. And yet

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I certainly wouldn't say it's unrealistic.

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Now, how realistic for the Broncos

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to move up from where they are at number

5:21

twelve. I think that's the conversation. But

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it is good to be Manti Austin for it because

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you can sit there and feel the offers. And Paul, we

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saw what Mani was able to do a year ago

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from number three to twelve back up

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to six. Do we see a repeat in

5:35

some way this year to still get that

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number one wide receiver or you hope

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is that number one wide receiver? Because right now

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that wide receiver room is considerably lacking

5:44

a number one, but.

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It's the deepest position in the draft.

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And again I come back to we don't

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know how much Manias and for It truly values

5:53

the receiver position itself. Does

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he even attach number four

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overall to a receiver? Is he comfort

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going down and taking a receiver

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at twenty seven? There are plenty of mock drafts

6:05

that have that. So that's one question. And

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then number two, I'm just struck by Sean

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Payton saying that it's realistic.

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Why would he say that unless he has knowledge, unless

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there already have been conversations and discussions.

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So for all the you know, misinformation

6:20

that's thrown out there. When Maniasiford tells the

6:22

media last week, there's a big open sign

6:24

above our name at number four. Yeah,

6:27

that's legit. And I'm guessing between the

6:29

combine and ever other conversations,

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enough inquiries have been made, enough groundwork

6:33

has been laid that other teams

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say, yep, guess what we can get a deal

6:38

done with the Arizona Cardinals.

6:39

And it sounds like it's going to take all

6:41

the way. When the Cardinals are on the clock

6:44

those full ten minutes Monti asin

6:46

Ford addressing reporters a week

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ago about being open for business,

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there'll.

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Be a big neon sign that says

6:54

open, and we'll I don't think. I

6:56

don't like it blank and that kind of messes with

6:58

my eyes. But yeah, we're we're

7:00

always going to be listening. We'll always

7:02

have the conversation, whether it's at four

7:04

or anywhere we're picking, but we're always

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going to have the conversation. And if it makes sense,

7:09

and it if it's attractive to building

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our team, it's something that we'll certainly

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consider no matter where we're at in the draft.

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There's only one thing, one thing only

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that could derail all this is

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if the rest of the teams cool

7:22

off on Drake May. There's a Bucky

7:25

Brooks three point zero mock draft that came out

7:27

today that as Drake May plummeting to number

7:29

eleven, Minnesota getting the quarterback

7:31

they want need, but waiting until

7:33

eleven and getting Drake May. So

7:36

what happens if, indeed JJ McCarthy let

7:39

there be a fourth QB is at fourth QB, but then

7:41

a third QB in this order

7:44

Drake May falls out of that top

7:46

four, then in my

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mind it might behoove manias of wort

7:51

to get a deal done sooner than

7:53

later before maybe the rest of the league somehow,

7:55

for some reason, cools off on Drake

7:57

May.

7:58

The opposite of that, though, is Drake

8:01

May, Jade and Daniels later this week have

8:03

their Pro day. So just by

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the new cycle alone Kyle,

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all of a sudden, those two are gonna have their

8:10

stock elevant. And then we'll see how

8:12

the rest of the league considers that based

8:15

off of the intel that these experts

8:17

are, these mock draft experts when they

8:19

go make their phone calls and then release their next

8:21

four point zero version of a mock draft.

8:24

But that's something that I think we're gonna have this

8:26

discussion, and it's part of the draft season

8:28

when you have so much time between the end of the

8:30

season and the draft on

8:33

how these players are rising and falling when they

8:35

haven't even done anything.

8:36

Yeah, to your point, very few

8:38

players, quarterbacks in particular, ever

8:40

drop in their profile

8:43

or where they people think they're gonna be picked based

8:46

on their pro day performance. I mean that is set

8:48

up for success. I mean, at

8:50

this moment, Jayden Daniels,

8:53

Drake May, they're practicing, they're rehearsing

8:55

every single throw in the order they're gonna

8:57

go. They know exactly what

9:00

they're going to do, and they've probably already

9:02

done it hundreds of times, so you

9:04

know they're they're set up for success. And

9:07

everybody's always wowed by these quarterback pro

9:10

days based on you know, throws

9:12

on the move, based on throws sixty yards down

9:14

the field, based on your accuracy. All

9:16

of those things are nice. None of them

9:19

really show, you know, how

9:21

they play with you know, two or

9:23

three guys bearing down on them, somebody

9:25

hitting them as they throw, with you

9:28

know, a shift in coverage of safety rolling up,

9:30

somebody dropping into a zone you didn't expect

9:32

them to be. That all comes based on film,

9:35

study and evaluation, and that should all all

9:38

be already be done. So you know, if

9:41

scouting departments, if gms

9:44

are changing their draft boards

9:47

based on these pro days, I think that's the wrong

9:49

approach because all the information,

9:52

at least all the fieldwork information and what

9:54

you think you want to see and what you think you need

9:56

them to do, all of that should already be

9:58

finished.

10:00

You know.

10:00

Potentially based on

10:02

interviews and how a guy is wired and what

10:04

makes him tick, some of those things might adjust

10:07

how you view a guy and whether you're going to take him.

10:09

But I don't think pro days do hardly

10:11

at all.

10:12

And that's a valid point because if you search

10:14

back, correct me if I'm wrong, and I know you guys will.

10:16

Of all the QBS and all the pro days, all the

10:18

years, there was only one one quarterback

10:21

who flopped his pro day, Teddy Bridgewater,

10:24

if you remember, that was not good. It

10:27

was not good, and it cost him. He

10:29

fell to the Vikings late first round

10:31

where he's projected be mid first

10:33

round. But he's the only guy that comes to

10:35

mind. Here's the other thing on JJ McCarthy

10:37

being number four. Maybe we're underestimating

10:40

things. I think what went under the radar from

10:42

the league meetings yesterday, Tom Pelo Sero said

10:44

an NFL Network quote. When I've had

10:47

conversations here with executives from

10:49

other teams who know Adam Peters well, the

10:51

GM of the commanders, the most popular

10:53

answer for what the commanders do at number two

10:56

is JJ McCarthy. So

10:58

there's a lot of dramas still to calm end.

11:00

Quote Tom Pellisero, and we are less

11:02

than a month away from the draft

11:05

and really figuring out where these quarterbacks

11:07

go. One two three four is at just one

11:09

two three. It's a popular

11:12

discussion point right now amongst

11:14

the NFL and US here on the Cardinals

11:16

Red Sea report.

11:17

Also very popular speaking of the NFL

11:19

Annual League Meeting, the coaches

11:22

photo and what Kyle Brandt has

11:24

done to have this go

11:27

viral each and every year. Good

11:29

Morning Football, NFL Network, Kyle

11:31

Brant breaking down not just the coach's

11:34

photo, but specifically what he

11:36

saw at a Cardinals head coach Jonathan

11:38

Gannon.

11:39

Go to the other side of the picture. This one blew

11:41

me away. Did you get to look at Johnny

11:44

Gannon? Take a look at this dude.

11:46

Over here, Damn jj JO

11:49

This blew me away.

11:50

Biceps like crazy, also

11:53

sockless. John Cannon is

11:55

definitely first team all fitness center

11:57

in the hotel, like he was in there when it opened.

12:00

So I'm onto you and I respect this about

12:02

your game. This is a pre photo pump.

12:04

You cannot tell me it's not a christ You know

12:06

it.

12:07

He got out and he did the close scripts.

12:09

He did like the diamond push ups right down there

12:11

before he came out.

12:12

I do it before every segment.

12:13

I don't blame you at all, but that is definitely

12:15

a pre pump.

12:17

We gotta start reconsidering.

12:18

We like to credit Salah and McDermott for how

12:20

jack they are. Gannon, my

12:22

god, you look good and it's all business here

12:24

too.

12:25

We talk well all the time.

12:26

Four wins last year, but they had great wins and

12:28

they played tough. I like where the scene that

12:30

could imagine the odds if when the coaches photo

12:32

came out and said, Jonathan Gannon wins the photo.

12:35

What that's your Cinderella

12:37

in March.

12:37

That is your maddest The biceps are

12:40

crazy.

12:40

I love him Gannon, who knew.

12:43

Very well done by Good Morning Football

12:45

is Kyle Brandt. Now? This morning

12:48

in Orlando, the NFC head coaches

12:50

had their breakfast and meet and greet with the

12:52

media and our own colleague, Darren Urban asked

12:55

Gannon about if he had

12:57

heard about what Good Morning Football

12:59

had said, and Gannon's response was

13:01

no. And then he was told about the biceps

13:03

and Gannon said, nah, we don't even do arms,

13:06

and he was more proud of his hamstrings.

13:09

And I'll leave it to you, Kyle, because you're

13:11

the only one in this room that actually has

13:13

biceps and ham strings that we

13:15

can see. I mean we have them, we just

13:18

no one else can see them. The fact

13:20

that this now has become a thing between Kyle

13:22

Brandt on Good Morning Football, it.

13:24

Was well done. I mean I was exhausted

13:27

watching him go through the entire fifteen minutes of

13:29

breaking down that photo. But yeah,

13:31

look here, Jonathan Gannon's downplaying

13:34

it. You know, the pre

13:36

photo pump is like fight club. You don't talk

13:38

about the pre photo pump. You don't. You never admit

13:40

to it. And as you go, and

13:42

you're a player in this league, you understand this. This is

13:44

the truth. You have pre photo pumps, you

13:46

have pre video pumps. You have pre

13:49

game pumps where guys are doing dips and pushups

13:51

and curls in the locker room. Anything you can

13:53

do to try to get that vein to pop out right before

13:55

you either take the field or get a photo.

13:58

But you never talk about you never admit to

14:01

it. You just act like us. I just rolled out of bed

14:03

and on this jacked every single day, so

14:05

I love the coyness. Also,

14:08

we talked about this up dear. I've never heard anybody

14:10

brag about their hamstrings. I'm not even sure how

14:12

you can show off your hamstrings or

14:15

flex your hamstrings unless you're walking around in Daisy

14:17

dukes. And I don't see Jonathan Gannon doing

14:19

that.

14:19

Come on, now, true or false? He doesn't work

14:21

his arms. You run a weight room.

14:23

Come on.

14:23

That's because if that's true, that life is

14:26

truly not fair.

14:27

That's what I'm saying. I think that's all

14:29

he's been doing since the scene has been over his

14:31

buys and tries.

14:32

Yeah, it looks unless JG misspoken

14:34

meant to say his calfs because people

14:36

are real high on their calf muscle

14:39

as opposed to their hamstring muscle when they talk about

14:41

their legs. But hey, we digress here

14:43

on the Cardinals reds he report. By the way, if you missed

14:45

any of that segment with Kyle Brandt, it is

14:47

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Look at this paws on the ground, balls

15:18

on the pup by the Raiders.

15:20

Can I have a touchdown with Nichols?

15:22

The Raiders pick it up and rumble in the

15:24

end zone.

15:25

Balal Nichols just grabbed

15:27

it from right on the turf.

15:29

Snap back to pass pressure

15:31

again off the edge. Battery sad for

15:33

the safety Nichols in

15:35

the zone squashed into the

15:38

turf?

15:38

Have the Raiders defense has

15:41

that.

15:41

Safety's He's

15:43

six foot three, three hundred and thirteen

15:46

pounds turns twenty eight. In

15:48

September, former fifth round

15:50

pick Balaal Nichols one of the new

15:53

editions on that defense, and specifically

15:56

a new edition on that defensive line.

15:58

The Cardinals signed three new faces

16:00

plus resign LJ. Collier. Certainly

16:03

the priority on that defensive line

16:05

needing an upgrade. In twenty

16:07

twenty four's we say welcome back. It is the Cardinals

16:10

red seat report, Craig Rayolupaul Calvic, and

16:12

Kyle Vanenbosch and focusing specifically

16:15

on Balal Nichols. You just look at

16:17

the size, Paul, and maybe you and

16:19

I combined measure up to one

16:21

six foot three, three hundred and thirteen pound

16:24

defensive alignement.

16:25

Yeah, you need to be that size to register

16:27

a squish. Okay, that's the new analytic

16:30

that we propose a squish. Three time

16:32

pro bowler, Kyle Vannibosch to my right,

16:34

I don't care how many sacks you had, how many

16:36

squishes did you have in your because

16:39

that really sends a message that's intimidating.

16:41

So that's what you need up front. You get the pair

16:43

of d linemen in there, just go ahead and let

16:45

the linebackersze because they're taking up the double

16:47

team or they're getting penetration

16:50

straight up the middle, disrupting the pocket, getting

16:52

in the face of the quarterback. That ideally

16:55

is what the Cardinals signed in those two guys.

16:57

Yeah, I mean this is what we needed. We needed

16:59

some beef upfront, some guys.

17:02

The biggest issue with this defense. You

17:04

know, there was a lot of injuries up front, but

17:06

it was stopping the run. I mean, we were twenty

17:08

fifth in total d but we were thirteen

17:11

in pass defense. Where we struggled

17:13

was our run defense, thirty second in against

17:16

the run, and it

17:19

was we were lasting yards per carry. Teams

17:21

had the highest run rate against us. So

17:23

it became pretty apparent how teams are going

17:26

to attack us in what our vulnerability

17:28

was and if we you know, if

17:30

it wasn't addressed this offseason, if you don't

17:32

if you don't do better on first and second

17:34

down, you don't get to those money downs,

17:37

you don't get to the third and sevens, you don't get to the

17:39

third and ten. Plus if teams are

17:41

consistently getting three four yards

17:43

a shot on the ground. So this

17:46

became task number one. I know there

17:48

is other things that we need to address on the defense,

17:51

including you know, adding another cornerback, including

17:53

adding players that can get to the quarterback.

17:55

But I think this is a big step.

17:58

You know, if you were going to pay

18:00

for defensive tackles that disrupt

18:03

the quarterback, that get in the backfield, that get the

18:05

you know, close to or get the double

18:07

digit sacks. You were gonna pay an extreme premium

18:10

and free agency, but what we got was good quality

18:12

players. We got versatile players.

18:15

I mean, Blile Nichols has played right in, he's

18:17

played left end, he's played three techniques,

18:19

he's played nose tackle, and

18:21

he's done all of them at a high level. So you

18:24

know, just that factor alone, the fact he doesn't

18:26

miss games, the fact that he can

18:28

be on the field and you can count on him and he's

18:30

gonna be reliable, I

18:32

think it was a great signing.

18:34

Yeah, the Ryle liability, the durability

18:36

of Nickels started every single game each

18:38

of the past two seasons, has played in every

18:40

game since twenty twenty. But he knows

18:42

why he was brought in here. Paul Calvic,

18:45

you had a chance to speak with Nichols on the Big Red

18:47

Rage, and Yeah, for Nichols, it's all about

18:49

stopping the run.

18:51

That's a mindset, point blank period.

18:53

If you could run the ball or stop to run, I think about

18:55

how tough you are, because that's something that not everybody

18:57

boot to do. Now, everybody boot to run a ball, and everybody

19:00

abild to stop the run. So to me, that's

19:03

a toughness thing coming in every day

19:05

with that mindset. You're not running his

19:07

ball on us, and that's how I'm coming in here.

19:09

You're not running his ball on us. And

19:11

something that I want to do is I want to

19:14

pass that energy to all of my teammates. Yeah.

19:16

He was deadly serious about that. I mean

19:19

what you heard in the voice he conveyed,

19:21

with the look in his eyes. And I'll just say

19:23

this, Number one for the Cardinals defense the off season

19:26

is stopped the run. There's no doubt about it's so much room

19:28

for improvement. But how many times last

19:31

year did we say, despite all

19:33

the replacements in some lineups

19:35

in December and January that looked more

19:38

like August because you're going three to four

19:40

deep in that D line position room. Cardinals

19:42

still played a physical brand

19:44

of defense. So now you're adding two

19:46

guys known for physicality,

19:49

two guys who talk and walk that

19:51

sort of game. That's intriguing to me

19:54

because that is the identity

19:56

of this defense. Jonathan gannon maniassaport,

19:58

what are they building. They're building a physical

20:01

D and enough team set. After playing the Cardinals

20:03

win or lose, that guess what we were

20:05

in a football game, and now you just ramp that up.

20:07

More from Nicols on your conversation,

20:11

was it last week a couple of weeks ago on the Big

20:13

Red Rage on what he believes

20:15

Austin Ford and Gannon saw in

20:17

his tape.

20:19

When they check the film, I hope they see a dude out

20:21

there that's playing with passion, that's heavy handed,

20:23

that's very determined to get off

20:25

of blocks and make plays and do whatever he has

20:28

to do to allow his team to win, whether that's playing

20:30

you know, every position on the line or wherever

20:32

I'm needed at. I'm willing to do whatever

20:35

it is I got to do to help us win. That's

20:37

what type of person they're getting on the field. Just

20:39

a straight dog, somebody who's relentless,

20:42

not scared. I'm gonna push his teammates,

20:44

want his teammates to push him, and go

20:46

and go out there and give you my best each and every day.

20:49

And if you stop the run, consistently

20:51

stop the run, Kyle, then yeah,

20:53

you do set up your defense on third

20:55

down to get after the quarterback. And

20:58

maybe that's the my said

21:00

going into this offseason. Yeah, this team did

21:02

not get after the quarterback, did not sack

21:04

the quarterback enough, did not put enough pressure

21:06

on the quarterback. But perhaps

21:09

if they're a little bit better on first and second

21:11

down, all of a sudden it's third and long. Now you get

21:13

that quarterback hanging onto the ball a little

21:15

bit longer to allow a Zaven

21:17

Collins b j O Jolari to get into

21:19

the backfield. But it starts with those interior

21:22

defensive linemen and the defensive line as a whole.

21:24

Yeah, you're right. And one thing you look at,

21:26

you know the three outside

21:28

players we signed on this defensive line, and

21:30

you talked about Blow Nichols and how big he is.

21:34

I think that's important because look,

21:36

the NFL is a numbers game. Offensive coordinators

21:39

are looking at numbers. How many guys do you have in

21:41

the box? And if you are constantly

21:43

committing extra players in the box to stop the

21:45

run, you're gonna be in trouble. I mean, look at

21:48

a team in our division like the San Francisco forty

21:50

nine ers playing a team like them, You've

21:52

got to use as many resources as possible

21:55

to try to account for their weapons. You're

21:57

gonna have to double team players at times, so

22:00

you can't commit to adding extra players

22:02

to the box. So sometimes you're gonna

22:04

have to stop the run with the light box with three

22:06

defensive linemen, and so you need

22:08

big strong guys to eat up those

22:10

blocks to make sure you're not getting pushed off the line

22:12

of scrimmage, not even

22:15

you know you're probably with the light box.

22:17

You're not gonna get tackles for a loss. You're not gonna

22:19

necessarily always stone them at the line of scrimmage. But if you can

22:21

hold up with big, strong,

22:24

physical players on that front and

22:27

hold the runs to one or two yards, then

22:29

you're in a good position because you do need

22:31

to have resources on

22:33

the back end to account for all

22:35

of the receiving weapons or you know, tight

22:38

ends or running backs out of the backfield in

22:40

the in the passing game. So I

22:42

think, you know, coaches can scheme

22:45

up ways to stop the run,

22:47

but it's much better if you can just do it

22:50

with you know, lining up

22:52

head up and taking them on man

22:54

to man. And that's what I love hearing him say,

22:57

you know, it's an attitude, and to

22:59

a large degree it is. It's a lot of technique, but it's

23:01

a lot of refusing to get

23:03

knocked off the ball, refusing to get

23:05

moved even when you're double team and holding

23:08

up your job, then

23:10

then you can, you know, limit the runs and stop

23:12

the run with the light box and use the guys on the

23:14

back end to take care of everything else.

23:15

And by the way, speaking of the division, think of the running

23:18

backs in the division. The first team All

23:20

Pro running back this year was Christian McCaffrey.

23:22

The second team All Pro running back this year

23:24

was Kyron Williams. I think Kyle crunched

23:27

the numbers seven yards of carrying two games against

23:29

the Cardinals. Kenneth Walker the third

23:31

Seattle's featured back. Do you think Mike

23:34

McDonald coming from Baltimore is gonna

23:36

run Kenneth Walker, who, by the way, in four games against

23:38

the Cardinals is run for one O nine, one

23:40

oh five, ninety seven and seventy

23:42

eight yards.

23:43

Yeah, you got to be able to win

23:45

the division. Cardinals did not have a single

23:47

win within the NFC West a year ago.

23:49

And it begins with stopping the run. And you talk

23:52

about the size Blall Nichols sixty three three

23:54

thirteen, Justin Jones six three

23:56

three oh nine, Kyro's Tonga six four

23:58

three thirty eight. Yeah, a lot

24:00

of size that the Cardinals added again,

24:03

in earlier this morning in Orlando. What

24:05

drew him to Nichols and Jones.

24:08

Versatility, violence, explosiveness,

24:11

and then really well rounded games

24:13

run and pass game. They can both rush,

24:16

they can both play the run in multiple modes

24:18

of run defense. I think obviously

24:21

availability. They're both pretty durable, which

24:24

you never know how that's going to go, but they've proven

24:26

that they can play. You know, a lot of snaps,

24:29

just the skill set of the guy, the makeup of

24:31

the players. You know, he did a lot of homework on those

24:34

guys to bring him in our building and

24:37

glowing reviews about the character and who

24:39

they are, those guys.

24:41

And then you add or resign LJ. Collier,

24:43

who was not durable last season but showed

24:45

enough Paul least in the offseason, training

24:48

camp, preseason and to

24:50

say, okay, yeah it didn't work, but

24:52

for what one game? But hey, we want

24:54

you now. He's not as big as far

24:57

as a three hundred pounder, but maybe a little

24:59

bit more on the the edge as opposed to an

25:01

interior defensive linebook.

25:02

He was taken the end of the first round by Seattle

25:05

years ago for a reason. He's still in his

25:07

prime. He didn't like to fit in Seattle with a defensive

25:09

scheme. Things just didn't work for him there. And

25:12

you're right, he really flashed in training

25:15

camp. He started week one as a starter,

25:17

didn't make it through week one, but

25:19

he was productive until that biceps injury.

25:22

So he comes back on a very team friendly

25:24

deal. Let's see what he can do. Add him to the

25:26

rotation based on what he said last year. He's very

25:28

motivated to prove himself in this league,

25:30

something he was never able to do in Seattle.

25:33

And to your point, if you can get these teams

25:35

into third and long, third obvious passing

25:37

situation, second and obvious passing situations,

25:40

which didn't happen often enough last year because

25:42

of the lack of run defense, we saw

25:44

Nick Ross and Jonathan Gannon dial up some crazy,

25:47

unconventional defensive fronts. Even

25:49

Matthew Stafford cited that last year, like what

25:51

are the Cardinals doing on third and obvious? You got

25:53

four guys walking around, Nobody has

25:56

their hand in the dirt, So that's intriguing.

25:58

I think the code proven. If

26:00

you can get him in those third and passing situations,

26:03

look out.

26:03

And I don't know if the Cardinals are quite

26:05

done on the defensive line. According

26:08

to reports, they met last week

26:10

with Jonah Williams, the former Rams defensive

26:12

end who signed with the Vikings. They also

26:14

reportedly met with Chargers

26:17

defensive lineman Austin Johnson, who

26:19

signed with the Bills. There might be some more

26:22

movement in that d line room still

26:24

to have, maybe even in the draft,

26:26

if not a veteran in free agency.

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26:49

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27:04

After review, it is an incomplete

27:06

pad.

27:10

So Gannet one for one, saved

27:13

his best and only for last.

27:15

First time you used the red flag and it worked out.

27:17

Huh yeah, one for one.

27:18

It had been twenty years since the head coach had gone

27:21

entire season, so I know they reminded you

27:23

of that recently.

27:24

I put myself behind the team there because I really didn't

27:26

want to throw it.

27:28

I'll say this, if Gannon decides

27:31

to throw it this upcoming season

27:33

and is successful, he will earn

27:35

himself a third challenge one

27:37

of the new rules regulations.

27:40

If you will approve by owners at the annual

27:42

league meeting that yeah, you get a

27:44

third challenge as long as one of your first

27:47

two previous challenges is

27:49

successful. As we say, welcome back, it

27:51

is the Cardinals Red Seat Report Craig Raylupaul

27:53

KELVC and Covanbosch. And as

27:56

promised, we tracked down Darren Urban, who

27:58

I believe is on his way back to

28:00

Arizona spending some time with the

28:02

elite, the owners, the coaches

28:05

in Orlando at the annual league meeting. Darren,

28:07

how you doing nobbing?

28:10

I'm not quite on my way back.

28:12

I'm sitting in an airport. I mean me, on

28:14

your way back would actually be on an airplane moving,

28:16

but I am not quite to that.

28:17

Well, you did get in a car or a vehicle

28:20

from the hotel to the airport, so you're kind

28:22

of on your way.

28:24

I'm in a holding.

28:25

Pattern, all right, So look, if you

28:27

run into JG again in the airport

28:29

perhaps and you might have his own separate private

28:31

transportation. Do us all a

28:33

favor because I know he told you earlier today

28:36

there will be a joint practice

28:38

against an AFC team, and he

28:40

said a good AFC team. So I

28:43

would just like to put in kind of a

28:45

self serving request that it's

28:47

not against Miami, Jacksonville or

28:49

Houston. Okay, we don't need that sort

28:51

of humidity, Darren.

28:53

That's right. Are you are you? Are you training that

28:55

in for the possibility of having a Wednesday

28:57

Christmas Day game?

28:58

That's right?

29:00

Oh boy, you're right, Christmas Day

29:02

doubleheader, even though it's on a Wednesday.

29:05

I don't know if I like that. I'm not sure the

29:07

NBA would like it either. But speaking

29:09

of Jonathan Gannon his thirty minutes

29:12

sit down with the media, I think, Darren,

29:14

the big news item was the joint

29:16

practice, or the announcement of a joint practice

29:18

for a second straight year since Gannon has been the head

29:21

coach. Anything else, though, stand

29:23

out as far as what Gannon had to tell

29:25

you and everyone else, I mean.

29:27

Not necessarily stand

29:30

out. I wouldn't say. I mean, he hit a couple

29:32

of highlights. I mean, I did notice, and

29:34

I know you're a big fan of all the Kyler Murray questions

29:37

that continue to come towards Jonathan

29:39

Gannon. But I think, and he said

29:41

this before, I think the idea that

29:45

his excitement to

29:47

get Kyler Murray for an offseason

29:50

is palpable at this point. And obviously

29:53

Kyler wasn't able to do that last offseason

29:56

because of the injury. And you

29:59

truly get the belief that they think

30:01

he can make a big jump just

30:03

by having that kind of time on

30:05

task with Drew pettsing and working

30:07

with this offense. So that was something

30:09

that jumped out at me. And then

30:12

you know, a couple other guys that you know, he

30:14

sounded very optimistic about. Now, again,

30:17

you take it with a grain of salt, and Jonathan

30:19

Gannon's not the kind of guy who's gonna throw a guy under

30:22

the bus. But the way he talked about Greg

30:24

Dorch and the way he talked about David Collins

30:26

makes me believe that those guys are

30:28

going to get every opportunity to prove

30:31

that they can be solid contributors to this team.

30:33

Yeah, I thought that Zavin Collins question and

30:35

answer was interesting. We're all trying

30:37

to figure out his future. And

30:39

the one thing Gannon said that I thought was

30:41

significant, he said, you know what, you just can't overthink

30:44

things. And Kyle, I mean when you watched

30:46

Davin Collins play last year, and as someone who played

30:48

the position at a very high level, do

30:51

you think because East made it sound like,

30:53

you know what, Zavin this year just needs to unleash

30:55

it, think less, be athletic

30:57

more.

30:58

Would you agree with that. Yeah, it's a lot like

31:00

like a rookie sophomore season, your second

31:02

second year in the NFL. I mean, you typically

31:04

take a pretty big leap, at least a lot of players

31:07

do. And it's the same thing when you move to a completely different

31:09

position. It calls for a

31:11

completely different mindset, a completely different skill

31:13

set, and it takes time to hone your craft.

31:16

You know, I think he did come around and was

31:19

playing well late in the season, and

31:21

I think another full offseason to work

31:23

his craft to you know, work

31:25

on his pass rush to develop you know, what

31:27

is my go to move and then

31:29

you know, come up with one or two counters off of that. But

31:33

you know, he's definitely a student of the game. He's

31:35

gonna figure out what he does best,

31:38

what what offensive tackles

31:40

are vulnerable to, and and be able to bring

31:42

that into year two. I just think,

31:44

you know, a full year of experience coming off the

31:46

edge, it'll definitely help him.

31:48

I think you'll you'll see some drastic improvements

31:51

in year two.

31:51

Darren, you brought up Greg Dortsch and league

31:54

wide, the news of the day is this hybrid

31:56

kickoff rule and I wonder what that

31:59

means because Scanning kind of hinted

32:01

it when it was asked about the specialists

32:04

and the resigning of Blake Gillikin, And

32:06

now all of a sudden you add DJ Dallas.

32:09

Does Greg dorg seymore work

32:11

on offense? And was the reason

32:13

you got DJ Dallas is because you

32:15

are expecting this rule change as far as

32:17

kickoffs were concerned.

32:20

I think the Dallas thing, the DJ

32:22

Dallas thing, could be part of that. But you know, I

32:24

don't know if that means in terms of returns. You

32:27

know, I think there's some questions out there

32:29

as we listen to the press conference today talking

32:33

about the kickoff changes, how much

32:35

might that impact what kind of players

32:37

are playing on the kickoff

32:40

return and the kickoff coverage seams? I

32:42

mean, all of a sudden, you've got all these guys that are

32:44

lined up five yards away from each

32:46

other and can't move right away. I mean, are you

32:48

gonna look for different body types? Are

32:51

you gonna look for different kinds of speed

32:53

guys? I mean, it may be a little bit

32:55

different than it once was when you're trying to get guys

32:57

to sprint seventy yards down seat

33:00

to make a tackle.

33:01

Darren Urban at the league meetings coming

33:04

from Orlando back to the A Z from

33:06

the outside looking in there, and there seemed to be a lot

33:08

of buzz about a JJ McCarthy.

33:11

Where's it going? Tom Pelasero even said

33:13

that he did an anonymous poll of other executives

33:16

and they think, or at least the most popular

33:18

answer is JJ McCarthy now going

33:20

number two to Washington. And

33:23

then, of course, if he is the fourth QB,

33:25

there's the team picking number four and

33:27

maybe the pivot point of the draft. And we heard

33:29

what Sean Payton had to say, So just in general,

33:32

what was the buzz about the Cardinals at four

33:34

and whether there might be four quarterbacks

33:36

and then hence a Cardinals trade.

33:39

Well, I'm just going to tell you, Paul that I feel very

33:42

I felt very well prepared with all of it, since

33:44

you've been talking about JJ McCarthy up there

33:46

all these weeks.

33:47

There you go.

33:47

But I you know what, I

33:50

think there's a lot of unknown and I thought

33:52

Monty awesome for when I got a

33:54

brief chance to talk to him yesterday.

33:57

I thought hit it on the head, which

33:59

is when it comes to the Cardinals. Their

34:02

their involvement in this conversation is

34:05

basically tangential because they're the

34:07

number four team, But it has everything to

34:09

do with the three teams in front of them and that

34:12

what they might do. And I

34:14

think there's a lot to be said about that. I think

34:16

it's less about whether the Cardinals are hunting

34:18

to make a trade or not make a trade. But

34:21

you know exactly what is gonna happen. I think it's pretty

34:23

clear Kayleb Williams is gonna go one to the Bears.

34:25

So then what does happen? Does Do the

34:27

Commanders go with McCarthy,

34:29

Do they go with Drake May, do they go with Jayden Daniels.

34:32

Heck, they even let it out there that maybe

34:35

they trade the pick. I don't think that'll happen. The

34:37

Patriots a little bit more in question. I think

34:40

Robert Kraft wants to get a quarterback, but is

34:42

the right guy there at three? And I just think there's

34:45

there's so much there that it's a very sexy

34:47

topic. But as

34:49

we've talked about before, like the

34:51

chances are incredibly high that at least one or

34:54

two of these guys, and who knows, maybe three

34:56

of them out of these four guys, I'll bust.

34:59

So you know, there's a certain

35:01

buyer beam layer when it comes to this. If

35:03

I'm a team, I want to be very convicted

35:06

on whoever I take, whoever's there, and

35:09

if that person's not there, maybe I do think about

35:11

moving moving out.

35:12

If you missed any of Darren's work this

35:15

week in Orlando got Azycardinals

35:17

dot com, including his latest article five

35:19

takeaways from Jonathan Gannon's meet and greet

35:21

with the media this morning, Darren, appreciate

35:23

it. Safe travels and we'll see us

35:26

soon.

35:26

See in the office tomorrow. Guys.

35:28

All right, thanks Darren, good job with the question

35:30

about the workout and Jonathan Ganning, which,

35:32

by the way, if he does not work arms, I'm

35:34

done, I give up. I'm never going to the gym again.

35:37

It's just not fair.

35:40

Appreciate it, Darren, Hey, real quick before

35:42

we head to a break, Kyle, the one

35:45

league rule that I think has caused

35:47

a lot of attention, especially amongst

35:49

your fellow defenders, is

35:52

the banning of the hip drop tackle, or

35:54

specifically the swivel hip drop

35:56

tackle. And we've seen moves

35:58

banned before or relegated

36:01

out of the game. Players adjust, but

36:03

this one seemed to have a lot more noise behind

36:05

it, at least on social media.

36:07

Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.

36:09

You know.

36:09

Look, it is difficult as a

36:11

defender to tackle the right way. However,

36:14

there is a way, and the hip drop, to me

36:16

is just an extension of the horse collar tackle.

36:18

When you grab a piece of either

36:21

shoulder pads or the other person's body

36:23

and you just unweight yourself and drop

36:25

to the ground. That's when the potential

36:27

for injury happens. And I read an athletic

36:30

article they went back in last year. If

36:32

this rule was in place, it could have been called

36:34

potentially two hundred and thirty times. That's

36:36

about once per game, which is not a large

36:39

amount of penalties. But of those two

36:41

thirty fifteen of those hip

36:43

drop quote unquote hip drop tackles,

36:45

fifteen of them led to injuries, which

36:48

is a high injury rate. You're looking at about you know,

36:50

six and a half percent of the hip drop

36:52

tackles led to an injury. So I think

36:54

it's valid. I think it's warranted. The

36:57

tackle and the technique itself. It's

36:59

not as it comes when you're

37:01

either chasing a player from the side or

37:03

from behind and you just grab

37:05

and unweight yourself to get them on the ground. But you

37:08

know, if you run through them, if you wrap the knees,

37:10

wrap the ankles, there's plenty

37:12

of ways to get that player on the ground, and in my

37:15

opinion, better ways. So

37:17

I don't think it's a big deal. I think the complaints

37:20

aren't necessarily you know, hitting

37:22

the right spot. You know, they're it's

37:25

it's not making the game softer in any way.

37:27

If anything, the hip drop tackle is kind

37:29

of a soft way of tackling because instead of

37:31

running through the player and wrapping them up, you're

37:33

just grabbing and yanking them to the ground. So

37:36

I think it's it's it's a good rule

37:38

change, and it will add you

37:40

know, potentially hopefully, you

37:43

know, it'll keep more players on the roster late in the

37:45

season.

37:45

It doesn't mark the demise of full speed,

37:48

full contact football. Come on, let's not lose

37:50

our mind. To Kyle's point, it happens maybe once

37:52

a game. Yes, it'll be flagged up

37:54

by the referees in the preseason. It'll be

37:56

a point emphasis. It might drive some people

37:58

nuts. But there's still full speed

38:00

tackling, there's still blocking, it's

38:02

still full contact. So no,

38:05

there's no need there or anything in and

38:07

about putting flags on the players.

38:09

Some other new things. For twenty

38:11

twenty four, the trade deadline has

38:13

been moved to the Tuesday after Week

38:16

nine, so a week or two later

38:18

than most recently this past season.

38:21

Practice squad quarterbacks can be elevated

38:23

to the active roster as a team's emergency

38:25

third quarterback, and teams

38:28

can designate a maximum of two

38:30

players per return when they are placed

38:32

on IR on the final roster cutdown

38:35

day. John Gains in this case

38:37

might have been eligible to return in season.

38:40

This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network.

38:45

We're intentional about the players that we add. It's

38:48

not a case where we're just going out and signing

38:51

players and picking them out of a hat. I mean the

38:53

players that we are selecting

38:55

for us, whether it's to the draft or free agency,

38:57

or are guys that we feel have

39:00

a good fit in what we're going

39:02

to ask them to do. There's plenty of players,

39:04

whether it's this draft cycle or a free agency

39:06

that they're good players, but they maybe

39:09

their skill set lends itself to a different

39:11

scheme. And that's fine, that's going

39:13

to happen every year. But the guys that we

39:15

ultimately add to this roster are guys that

39:17

we believe can do what

39:20

we ask them to do in our scheme. That's an

39:22

important part of any person that we add to this program.

39:24

The word GM money Austin for used when

39:26

addressing reporters last week, adding

39:29

new players being intentional.

39:32

Do they fit the scheme? Do

39:34

they fit the locker room? Do they fit what

39:36

we do here with the Arizona Cardinals

39:38

in twenty twenty four, and some of those big names

39:40

just might not fit or they team might

39:43

not be ready for a big name

39:45

that might have been available on the free agent

39:47

market, we say welcome back here on the Cardinals

39:49

Red Seer Report craigoriolupaulk Alvc, and

39:51

ky Vnabosh. If you missed it, we had Darren Urban

39:54

Live for Orlando from the Annual League meeting

39:56

in our previous segment, appreciate Darren joining

39:58

us here on this two. We

40:00

did see a lot of trends,

40:03

I think, Kyle, as far as the players that

40:05

giam Monti Austin Ford added this

40:08

offseason. One, if you're a receiver, you got

40:10

to be taller than six foot tall. And if

40:12

you are a new player, that durability

40:15

is priority number one. You do

40:18

mean no good if you're not available on

40:20

game day. And we saw every single

40:23

new player added in free agency

40:25

played at least fourteen games

40:28

last season. Your best ability is

40:30

availability, and I think that is outside

40:33

of talent. Yeah, you got to be able to play the game, but

40:36

can you play the game each and every week?

40:38

Yeah, it's been big, particularly with the last

40:40

two seasons we've had here. You

40:43

know, you combine the last two seasons

40:45

for the Arizona Cardinals, I don't know that any team has

40:47

had more players miss games because

40:49

of injuries, more players put in ir more

40:52

misstarts. You know, we thought

40:54

it was bad two years ago, and then some of

40:56

the same things happened this past year, and so you

40:59

know, it's it's tough. You can't always predict

41:02

injuries. You can't forecast when they're

41:04

gonna come or how they're gonna come, and sometimes it's

41:06

just a matter of luck. But it's

41:09

huge, I mean to to you

41:11

know, we talked about this before, but to sign a guy

41:14

mid season and expect him

41:16

to come in understand your system, understand

41:18

your techniques, understand the checks, and

41:21

for him to go out there on a Sunday and

41:23

be effective it's extremely difficult, extremely

41:26

difficult for the coaching staff, for the player himself,

41:30

and and really, you

41:32

know, late in a season, when

41:34

you're trying to make a push, when you're trying to get into the

41:36

playoffs and you're playing with new guys, it's

41:39

it's it doesn't work. And so what

41:41

you do is you you look for guys that you

41:43

can count on, and sometimes you do,

41:46

and that I don't believe that's the case with

41:48

our free agent signs, but sometimes you do sacrifice

41:51

a little bit in the talent category for

41:53

the availability and accountability category,

41:55

because you just need to know that I could count

41:58

on this guy on Sundays, I know what I have

42:00

and I could build my game plan around

42:02

that. Whereas you're you know, with guys in and

42:04

out of the lineup are guys who have inconsistent

42:07

effort. You're

42:09

just it's always a guessing game. You don't know which guy's going to show

42:11

up on Sundays or if he's going to show up at all. It's

42:13

hard to predict.

42:14

But you're looking for a track record, and the players

42:17

added and free agency have a

42:19

track record. What's even harder to predict,

42:21

it's what's going to happen in the upcoming

42:24

draft. We are less than a month away.

42:26

Cardinals with eleven draft picks,

42:28

six in the first ninety two

42:30

in the first round. The number one pick

42:33

is the fourth overall pick, though

42:35

Manti Austin Ford last week telling reporters,

42:38

Yeah, there is interest in that fourth overall

42:40

pick.

42:41

You know.

42:41

I'd say those phone calls are starting to pick up a little

42:44

bit, you know. I would say they'll probably

42:46

continue when we go down to Florida for

42:48

the owners meetings. I would imagine

42:50

some of those conversations will continue to pick

42:52

up, you know, But honestly, they probably

42:55

will not get real serious until we get

42:57

right up until the week of the draft.

43:00

More to last year, to be a fly on

43:02

the wall, Paul in Orlando,

43:04

for some of those conversations that Monty

43:06

Austin Fort may or may not have had this

43:09

past week, or I should say Sunday

43:11

into Tuesday morning, because as we

43:13

discussed already, there

43:15

is certainly a buzz around that fourth

43:17

overall pick.

43:18

It's the pivot point in the draft right

43:20

now. The top three teams are going

43:23

quarterback, and if they don't, they're trading to a

43:25

team who's coming up for a quarterback.

43:27

So what will the Cardinals do at number

43:29

four? Will they take the generational receiver?

43:31

By all accounts, although you guys know, I'm not nearly

43:33

as on board a unanisimally

43:36

as a complete slam dunk that Marvin Harrison

43:38

Junior is that much better than Romadonday

43:40

and or Malik Neighbors. Do the Cardinals

43:43

even value receiver that much to go number

43:45

four? Will they trade out? Will they trade down?

43:47

Will some team make them an offer they can't refuse

43:49

that that tends to be my opinion,

43:52

And then you just get the silly season. And

43:54

the only reason I bring this up is because Mike

43:56

Tannenbaum earlier today, a

43:58

guy who ran an NFL warm point

44:01

zero zero zero one percent of the world

44:03

has run an NFL warroom and for him to

44:06

advance out there, that the Cardinals should

44:09

draft JJ McCarthy at number

44:11

four, then trade Kyler Murray plus

44:13

a third round pick to Minnesota for eleven.

44:16

Then take Quinny and Mitchell the corner at eleven,

44:18

and then take the receiver Ladd McConkie at

44:20

twenty seven. So now you have JJ

44:22

McCarthy and Ladd McConkie instead of Kyler

44:25

and Marvin Harrison junior. That's

44:27

a no komprendo. But that's where

44:30

we are at this point.

44:30

And stress the word silly, Kyle, when we talk

44:32

about scenarios.

44:34

Like that, it's absolutely silly.

44:36

You know.

44:37

Look, there's some talk about

44:39

what if we traded away and Marvin Harrison

44:41

becomes a generational talent like we think he will be. Look,

44:44

this is why you hire a competent GM with competent

44:46

people. They've got their system in place, they

44:49

know what they're looking for, and

44:52

you just got to you just got to trust them. You

44:54

know, it's taking him a full year to get the people he wants

44:56

around him to make the right decision to

44:58

go through this type of process. But if the trade

45:00

is made, it will be done based

45:02

on their evaluations and their analytics

45:05

and it will be the right decision.

45:06

A month away, A lot to discuss

45:08

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45:22

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