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Oh baby, how's that fail?
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Here's Craiggriolu, Paul Calvic,
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and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.
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So outside of a four to five week
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window endo June early
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July, the NFL has a stranglehold
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on the calendar and that
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will is made perfectly clear this
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week the NFL Annual
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League Meeting taking place in Orlando.
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A lot of news and dare
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I say, Kyle that we have to give credit to
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our co host over here, Paul Calvic, because
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not so much the rule changes and what
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the commissioner had to say, but the buzz
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that is surrounding the Arizona Cardinals around
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that fourth overall pick, and dare I
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say that maybe quarterback
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go one, two, three and four?
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All Right, I'm gonna stop short of ever given Paully
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credit for anything.
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I teed that up for you.
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Okay, he's usually grasping at straws, and every once
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in a while he gets.
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Like Kyle once again, let there be a
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fourth QB as long as the Cardinals don't
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draft that QB. Attention, Mike Tannanball,
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We'll get to that momentarily.
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What is going on? Silly season right
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now? Now? But yeah, this look,
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they're sitting in a great position,
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and I know a lot of talk has already
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happened, a lot more talk about what could possibly
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happen is is down the road, possibly
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daily with all the mock drafts coming out, But
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sitting in a great position. I mean, we
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had hoped it would go one, two, three, just
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so we could get Marvin Harrison
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junior. But now you
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know, there's a lot of talk of so many
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teams looking to get a quarterback and possibly
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trying to get that other quarterback
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at number four, that you
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know we can sit pat knowing we potentially
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have a generational type talent sitting
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there for us at number four, or we can just
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take whatever offers come our way, knowing
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that we aren't motivated to move right. You
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know what I love? You
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know, mantiasa Fort there's
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a lot of talk. Well, even if we take Marvin Harrison
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Junior, the Arizona Cardinals aren't
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just one player away. But if you
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look at what a generational type
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receiver can do for a team, I think back
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to twenty twenty when the Cincinnati
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Bengals won four games. Joe
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Burrow was hurt. They were talking that they
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had to go offensive tackle, they had to go o line, they
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had to find a way to protect Joe
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Burrow. And what did they do. They took Jamar Cha at
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number five and they were in the Super Bowl the
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next year. And obviously they made other additions
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and Joe Burrow's health was a big factor
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that they got into the super Bowl that next year.
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But that's what a dynamic wide
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receiver. Somebody that garners the attention of the
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defense, Somebody that's gonna draw double teams, somebody
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that can catch the ball in traffic. That's what
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they can do for your team. So in no way
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are even if we're not looking
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to move, teams know that, and
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they're gonna have to sweeten the pot. And it's not just
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looking at a chart, and it's not even just paying
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the quarterback tax that teams have to pay
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to move up. It's you've got
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to make me move off of this pick. We
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are certainly happy staying at four and taking
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Marvin Harrison Junior, but you
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better offer the house if you want
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to come up to four and make us get off this pick.
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And I don't think there's just gonna be one offer,
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Paul. I think there's going to be multiple
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offers teams looking to get
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into that fourth slot, and then Monty
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can just say, all right, well this is what I
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have. Are you willing to go higher? And then he has
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to make that decision is it a enough to move.
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Off of that spot.
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That's why when Sean Payton brought it up at these
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owners meetings, right, it was interesting couple of things.
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One, he's on a first name basis with Monty
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and vice versa, Monty talking about Sean.
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So that's curious because you know the Broncos
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aren't letting George Peyton run the show anymore.
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The two time Seahawks team MVP George
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Payton, who has employment in
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the Broncos front office after the Russell Wilson
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disaster. Epic and historic
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in every way. But if I'm maniasin
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for and Sean Payton is calling him saying, Okay,
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let me get back to you, because I've got the Giants
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online two, I have a Minnesota
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online three, and then I have the Raiders
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online four and maybe even the Jets.
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So yes, Craig, there's plenty of competition,
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you would think.
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The big topic conversation
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on Monday during the AFC Breakfast
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with head coaches the Broncos head
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coach Sean Payton what we've been talking about here
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his thoughts on Manti
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Asin for courtesy Andrew Mason
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of Denver Sports dot Com.
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I think it's realistic.
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What's hard to predict, though, is
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like what's on the receiving end. I
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think it's good to be Monty today at
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Arizona, right, It's hard to predict
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what that cost is. And yet
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I certainly wouldn't say it's unrealistic.
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Now, how realistic for the Broncos
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to move up from where they are at number
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twelve. I think that's the conversation. But
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it is good to be Manti Austin for it because
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you can sit there and feel the offers. And Paul, we
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saw what Mani was able to do a year ago
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from number three to twelve back up
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to six. Do we see a repeat in
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some way this year to still get that
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number one wide receiver or you hope
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is that number one wide receiver? Because right now
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that wide receiver room is considerably lacking
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a number one, but.
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It's the deepest position in the draft.
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And again I come back to we don't
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know how much Manias and for It truly values
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the receiver position itself. Does
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he even attach number four
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overall to a receiver? Is he comfort
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going down and taking a receiver
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at twenty seven? There are plenty of mock drafts
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that have that. So that's one question. And
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then number two, I'm just struck by Sean
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Payton saying that it's realistic.
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Why would he say that unless he has knowledge, unless
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there already have been conversations and discussions.
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So for all the you know, misinformation
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that's thrown out there. When Maniasiford tells the
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media last week, there's a big open sign
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above our name at number four. Yeah,
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that's legit. And I'm guessing between the
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combine and ever other conversations,
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enough inquiries have been made, enough groundwork
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has been laid that other teams
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say, yep, guess what we can get a deal
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done with the Arizona Cardinals.
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And it sounds like it's going to take all
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the way. When the Cardinals are on the clock
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those full ten minutes Monti asin
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Ford addressing reporters a week
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ago about being open for business,
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there'll.
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Be a big neon sign that says
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open, and we'll I don't think. I
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don't like it blank and that kind of messes with
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my eyes. But yeah, we're we're
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always going to be listening. We'll always
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have the conversation, whether it's at four
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or anywhere we're picking, but we're always
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going to have the conversation. And if it makes sense,
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and it if it's attractive to building
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our team, it's something that we'll certainly
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consider no matter where we're at in the draft.
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There's only one thing, one thing only
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that could derail all this is
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if the rest of the teams cool
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off on Drake May. There's a Bucky
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Brooks three point zero mock draft that came out
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today that as Drake May plummeting to number
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eleven, Minnesota getting the quarterback
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they want need, but waiting until
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eleven and getting Drake May. So
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what happens if, indeed JJ McCarthy let
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there be a fourth QB is at fourth QB, but then
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a third QB in this order
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Drake May falls out of that top
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four, then in my
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mind it might behoove manias of wort
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to get a deal done sooner than
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later before maybe the rest of the league somehow,
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for some reason, cools off on Drake
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May.
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The opposite of that, though, is Drake
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May, Jade and Daniels later this week have
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their Pro day. So just by
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the new cycle alone Kyle,
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all of a sudden, those two are gonna have their
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stock elevant. And then we'll see how
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the rest of the league considers that based
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off of the intel that these experts
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are, these mock draft experts when they
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go make their phone calls and then release their next
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four point zero version of a mock draft.
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But that's something that I think we're gonna have this
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discussion, and it's part of the draft season
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when you have so much time between the end of the
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season and the draft on
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how these players are rising and falling when they
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haven't even done anything.
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Yeah, to your point, very few
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players, quarterbacks in particular, ever
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drop in their profile
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or where they people think they're gonna be picked based
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on their pro day performance. I mean that is set
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up for success. I mean, at
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this moment, Jayden Daniels,
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Drake May, they're practicing, they're rehearsing
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every single throw in the order they're gonna
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go. They know exactly what
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they're going to do, and they've probably already
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done it hundreds of times, so you
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know they're they're set up for success. And
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everybody's always wowed by these quarterback pro
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days based on you know, throws
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on the move, based on throws sixty yards down
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the field, based on your accuracy. All
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of those things are nice. None of them
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really show, you know, how
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they play with you know, two or
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three guys bearing down on them, somebody
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hitting them as they throw, with you
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know, a shift in coverage of safety rolling up,
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somebody dropping into a zone you didn't expect
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them to be. That all comes based on film,
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study and evaluation, and that should all all
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be already be done. So you know, if
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scouting departments, if gms
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are changing their draft boards
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based on these pro days, I think that's the wrong
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approach because all the information,
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at least all the fieldwork information and what
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you think you want to see and what you think you need
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them to do, all of that should already be
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finished.
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You know.
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Potentially based on
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interviews and how a guy is wired and what
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makes him tick, some of those things might adjust
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how you view a guy and whether you're going to take him.
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But I don't think pro days do hardly
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at all.
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And that's a valid point because if you search
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back, correct me if I'm wrong, and I know you guys will.
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Of all the QBS and all the pro days, all the
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years, there was only one one quarterback
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who flopped his pro day, Teddy Bridgewater,
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if you remember, that was not good. It
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was not good, and it cost him. He
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fell to the Vikings late first round
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where he's projected be mid first
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round. But he's the only guy that comes to
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mind. Here's the other thing on JJ McCarthy
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being number four. Maybe we're underestimating
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things. I think what went under the radar from
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the league meetings yesterday, Tom Pelo Sero said
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an NFL Network quote. When I've had
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conversations here with executives from
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other teams who know Adam Peters well, the
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GM of the commanders, the most popular
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answer for what the commanders do at number two
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is JJ McCarthy. So
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there's a lot of dramas still to calm end.
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Quote Tom Pellisero, and we are less
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than a month away from the draft
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and really figuring out where these quarterbacks
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go. One two three four is at just one
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two three. It's a popular
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discussion point right now amongst
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the NFL and US here on the Cardinals
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Red Sea report.
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Also very popular speaking of the NFL
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Annual League Meeting, the coaches
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photo and what Kyle Brandt has
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done to have this go
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viral each and every year. Good
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Morning Football, NFL Network, Kyle
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Brant breaking down not just the coach's
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photo, but specifically what he
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saw at a Cardinals head coach Jonathan
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Gannon.
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Go to the other side of the picture. This one blew
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me away. Did you get to look at Johnny
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Gannon? Take a look at this dude.
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Over here, Damn jj JO
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This blew me away.
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Biceps like crazy, also
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sockless. John Cannon is
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definitely first team all fitness center
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in the hotel, like he was in there when it opened.
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So I'm onto you and I respect this about
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your game. This is a pre photo pump.
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You cannot tell me it's not a christ You know
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it.
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He got out and he did the close scripts.
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He did like the diamond push ups right down there
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before he came out.
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I do it before every segment.
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I don't blame you at all, but that is definitely
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a pre pump.
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We gotta start reconsidering.
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We like to credit Salah and McDermott for how
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jack they are. Gannon, my
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god, you look good and it's all business here
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too.
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We talk well all the time.
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Four wins last year, but they had great wins and
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they played tough. I like where the scene that
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could imagine the odds if when the coaches photo
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came out and said, Jonathan Gannon wins the photo.
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What that's your Cinderella
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in March.
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That is your maddest The biceps are
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crazy.
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I love him Gannon, who knew.
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Very well done by Good Morning Football
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is Kyle Brandt. Now? This morning
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in Orlando, the NFC head coaches
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had their breakfast and meet and greet with the
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media and our own colleague, Darren Urban asked
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Gannon about if he had
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heard about what Good Morning Football
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had said, and Gannon's response was
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no. And then he was told about the biceps
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and Gannon said, nah, we don't even do arms,
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and he was more proud of his hamstrings.
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And I'll leave it to you, Kyle, because you're
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the only one in this room that actually has
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biceps and ham strings that we
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can see. I mean we have them, we just
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no one else can see them. The fact
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that this now has become a thing between Kyle
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Brandt on Good Morning Football, it.
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Was well done. I mean I was exhausted
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watching him go through the entire fifteen minutes of
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breaking down that photo. But yeah,
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look here, Jonathan Gannon's downplaying
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it. You know, the pre
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photo pump is like fight club. You don't talk
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about the pre photo pump. You don't. You never admit
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to it. And as you go, and
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you're a player in this league, you understand this. This is
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the truth. You have pre photo pumps, you
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have pre video pumps. You have pre
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game pumps where guys are doing dips and pushups
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and curls in the locker room. Anything you can
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do to try to get that vein to pop out right before
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you either take the field or get a photo.
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But you never talk about you never admit to
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it. You just act like us. I just rolled out of bed
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and on this jacked every single day, so
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I love the coyness. Also,
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we talked about this up dear. I've never heard anybody
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brag about their hamstrings. I'm not even sure how
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you can show off your hamstrings or
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flex your hamstrings unless you're walking around in Daisy
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dukes. And I don't see Jonathan Gannon doing
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that.
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Come on, now, true or false? He doesn't work
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his arms. You run a weight room.
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Come on.
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That's because if that's true, that life is
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truly not fair.
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That's what I'm saying. I think that's all
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he's been doing since the scene has been over his
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buys and tries.
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Yeah, it looks unless JG misspoken
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meant to say his calfs because people
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are real high on their calf muscle
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as opposed to their hamstring muscle when they talk about
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their legs. But hey, we digress here
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Look at this paws on the ground, balls
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on the pup by the Raiders.
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Can I have a touchdown with Nichols?
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The Raiders pick it up and rumble in the
15:24
end zone.
15:25
Balal Nichols just grabbed
15:27
it from right on the turf.
15:29
Snap back to pass pressure
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again off the edge. Battery sad for
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the safety Nichols in
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the zone squashed into the
15:38
turf?
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Have the Raiders defense has
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that.
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Safety's He's
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six foot three, three hundred and thirteen
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pounds turns twenty eight. In
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September, former fifth round
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pick Balaal Nichols one of the new
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editions on that defense, and specifically
15:56
a new edition on that defensive line.
15:58
The Cardinals signed three new faces
16:00
plus resign LJ. Collier. Certainly
16:03
the priority on that defensive line
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needing an upgrade. In twenty
16:07
twenty four's we say welcome back. It is the Cardinals
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red seat report, Craig Rayolupaul Calvic, and
16:12
Kyle Vanenbosch and focusing specifically
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on Balal Nichols. You just look at
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the size, Paul, and maybe you and
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I combined measure up to one
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six foot three, three hundred and thirteen pound
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defensive alignement.
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Yeah, you need to be that size to register
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a squish. Okay, that's the new analytic
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that we propose a squish. Three time
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pro bowler, Kyle Vannibosch to my right,
16:34
I don't care how many sacks you had, how many
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squishes did you have in your because
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that really sends a message that's intimidating.
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So that's what you need up front. You get the pair
16:43
of d linemen in there, just go ahead and let
16:45
the linebackersze because they're taking up the double
16:47
team or they're getting penetration
16:50
straight up the middle, disrupting the pocket, getting
16:52
in the face of the quarterback. That ideally
16:55
is what the Cardinals signed in those two guys.
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Yeah, I mean this is what we needed. We needed
16:59
some beef upfront, some guys.
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The biggest issue with this defense. You
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know, there was a lot of injuries up front, but
17:06
it was stopping the run. I mean, we were twenty
17:08
fifth in total d but we were thirteen
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in pass defense. Where we struggled
17:13
was our run defense, thirty second in against
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the run, and it
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was we were lasting yards per carry. Teams
17:21
had the highest run rate against us. So
17:23
it became pretty apparent how teams are going
17:26
to attack us in what our vulnerability
17:28
was and if we you know, if
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it wasn't addressed this offseason, if you don't
17:32
if you don't do better on first and second
17:34
down, you don't get to those money downs,
17:37
you don't get to the third and sevens, you don't get to the
17:39
third and ten. Plus if teams are
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consistently getting three four yards
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a shot on the ground. So this
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became task number one. I know there
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is other things that we need to address on the defense,
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including you know, adding another cornerback, including
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adding players that can get to the quarterback.
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But I think this is a big step.
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You know, if you were going to pay
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for defensive tackles that disrupt
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the quarterback, that get in the backfield, that get the
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you know, close to or get the double
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digit sacks. You were gonna pay an extreme premium
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and free agency, but what we got was good quality
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players. We got versatile players.
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I mean, Blile Nichols has played right in, he's
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played left end, he's played three techniques,
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he's played nose tackle, and
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he's done all of them at a high level. So you
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know, just that factor alone, the fact he doesn't
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miss games, the fact that he can
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be on the field and you can count on him and he's
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gonna be reliable, I
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think it was a great signing.
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Yeah, the Ryle liability, the durability
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of Nickels started every single game each
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of the past two seasons, has played in every
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game since twenty twenty. But he knows
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why he was brought in here. Paul Calvic,
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you had a chance to speak with Nichols on the Big Red
18:47
Rage, and Yeah, for Nichols, it's all about
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stopping the run.
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That's a mindset, point blank period.
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If you could run the ball or stop to run, I think about
18:55
how tough you are, because that's something that not everybody
18:57
boot to do. Now, everybody boot to run a ball, and everybody
19:00
abild to stop the run. So to me, that's
19:03
a toughness thing coming in every day
19:05
with that mindset. You're not running his
19:07
ball on us, and that's how I'm coming in here.
19:09
You're not running his ball on us. And
19:11
something that I want to do is I want to
19:14
pass that energy to all of my teammates. Yeah.
19:16
He was deadly serious about that. I mean
19:19
what you heard in the voice he conveyed,
19:21
with the look in his eyes. And I'll just say
19:23
this, Number one for the Cardinals defense the off season
19:26
is stopped the run. There's no doubt about it's so much room
19:28
for improvement. But how many times last
19:31
year did we say, despite all
19:33
the replacements in some lineups
19:35
in December and January that looked more
19:38
like August because you're going three to four
19:40
deep in that D line position room. Cardinals
19:42
still played a physical brand
19:44
of defense. So now you're adding two
19:46
guys known for physicality,
19:49
two guys who talk and walk that
19:51
sort of game. That's intriguing to me
19:54
because that is the identity
19:56
of this defense. Jonathan gannon maniassaport,
19:58
what are they building. They're building a physical
20:01
D and enough team set. After playing the Cardinals
20:03
win or lose, that guess what we were
20:05
in a football game, and now you just ramp that up.
20:07
More from Nicols on your conversation,
20:11
was it last week a couple of weeks ago on the Big
20:13
Red Rage on what he believes
20:15
Austin Ford and Gannon saw in
20:17
his tape.
20:19
When they check the film, I hope they see a dude out
20:21
there that's playing with passion, that's heavy handed,
20:23
that's very determined to get off
20:25
of blocks and make plays and do whatever he has
20:28
to do to allow his team to win, whether that's playing
20:30
you know, every position on the line or wherever
20:32
I'm needed at. I'm willing to do whatever
20:35
it is I got to do to help us win. That's
20:37
what type of person they're getting on the field. Just
20:39
a straight dog, somebody who's relentless,
20:42
not scared. I'm gonna push his teammates,
20:44
want his teammates to push him, and go
20:46
and go out there and give you my best each and every day.
20:49
And if you stop the run, consistently
20:51
stop the run, Kyle, then yeah,
20:53
you do set up your defense on third
20:55
down to get after the quarterback. And
20:58
maybe that's the my said
21:00
going into this offseason. Yeah, this team did
21:02
not get after the quarterback, did not sack
21:04
the quarterback enough, did not put enough pressure
21:06
on the quarterback. But perhaps
21:09
if they're a little bit better on first and second
21:11
down, all of a sudden it's third and long. Now you get
21:13
that quarterback hanging onto the ball a little
21:15
bit longer to allow a Zaven
21:17
Collins b j O Jolari to get into
21:19
the backfield. But it starts with those interior
21:22
defensive linemen and the defensive line as a whole.
21:24
Yeah, you're right. And one thing you look at,
21:26
you know the three outside
21:28
players we signed on this defensive line, and
21:30
you talked about Blow Nichols and how big he is.
21:34
I think that's important because look,
21:36
the NFL is a numbers game. Offensive coordinators
21:39
are looking at numbers. How many guys do you have in
21:41
the box? And if you are constantly
21:43
committing extra players in the box to stop the
21:45
run, you're gonna be in trouble. I mean, look at
21:48
a team in our division like the San Francisco forty
21:50
nine ers playing a team like them, You've
21:52
got to use as many resources as possible
21:55
to try to account for their weapons. You're
21:57
gonna have to double team players at times, so
22:00
you can't commit to adding extra players
22:02
to the box. So sometimes you're gonna
22:04
have to stop the run with the light box with three
22:06
defensive linemen, and so you need
22:08
big strong guys to eat up those
22:10
blocks to make sure you're not getting pushed off the line
22:12
of scrimmage, not even
22:15
you know you're probably with the light box.
22:17
You're not gonna get tackles for a loss. You're not gonna
22:19
necessarily always stone them at the line of scrimmage. But if you can
22:21
hold up with big, strong,
22:24
physical players on that front and
22:27
hold the runs to one or two yards, then
22:29
you're in a good position because you do need
22:31
to have resources on
22:33
the back end to account for all
22:35
of the receiving weapons or you know, tight
22:38
ends or running backs out of the backfield in
22:40
the in the passing game. So I
22:42
think, you know, coaches can scheme
22:45
up ways to stop the run,
22:47
but it's much better if you can just do it
22:50
with you know, lining up
22:52
head up and taking them on man
22:54
to man. And that's what I love hearing him say,
22:57
you know, it's an attitude, and to
22:59
a large degree it is. It's a lot of technique, but it's
23:01
a lot of refusing to get
23:03
knocked off the ball, refusing to get
23:05
moved even when you're double team and holding
23:08
up your job, then
23:10
then you can, you know, limit the runs and stop
23:12
the run with the light box and use the guys on the
23:14
back end to take care of everything else.
23:15
And by the way, speaking of the division, think of the running
23:18
backs in the division. The first team All
23:20
Pro running back this year was Christian McCaffrey.
23:22
The second team All Pro running back this year
23:24
was Kyron Williams. I think Kyle crunched
23:27
the numbers seven yards of carrying two games against
23:29
the Cardinals. Kenneth Walker the third
23:31
Seattle's featured back. Do you think Mike
23:34
McDonald coming from Baltimore is gonna
23:36
run Kenneth Walker, who, by the way, in four games against
23:38
the Cardinals is run for one O nine, one
23:40
oh five, ninety seven and seventy
23:42
eight yards.
23:43
Yeah, you got to be able to win
23:45
the division. Cardinals did not have a single
23:47
win within the NFC West a year ago.
23:49
And it begins with stopping the run. And you talk
23:52
about the size Blall Nichols sixty three three
23:54
thirteen, Justin Jones six three
23:56
three oh nine, Kyro's Tonga six four
23:58
three thirty eight. Yeah, a lot
24:00
of size that the Cardinals added again,
24:03
in earlier this morning in Orlando. What
24:05
drew him to Nichols and Jones.
24:08
Versatility, violence, explosiveness,
24:11
and then really well rounded games
24:13
run and pass game. They can both rush,
24:16
they can both play the run in multiple modes
24:18
of run defense. I think obviously
24:21
availability. They're both pretty durable, which
24:24
you never know how that's going to go, but they've proven
24:26
that they can play. You know, a lot of snaps,
24:29
just the skill set of the guy, the makeup of
24:31
the players. You know, he did a lot of homework on those
24:34
guys to bring him in our building and
24:37
glowing reviews about the character and who
24:39
they are, those guys.
24:41
And then you add or resign LJ. Collier,
24:43
who was not durable last season but showed
24:45
enough Paul least in the offseason, training
24:48
camp, preseason and to
24:50
say, okay, yeah it didn't work, but
24:52
for what one game? But hey, we want
24:54
you now. He's not as big as far
24:57
as a three hundred pounder, but maybe a little
24:59
bit more on the the edge as opposed to an
25:01
interior defensive linebook.
25:02
He was taken the end of the first round by Seattle
25:05
years ago for a reason. He's still in his
25:07
prime. He didn't like to fit in Seattle with a defensive
25:09
scheme. Things just didn't work for him there. And
25:12
you're right, he really flashed in training
25:15
camp. He started week one as a starter,
25:17
didn't make it through week one, but
25:19
he was productive until that biceps injury.
25:22
So he comes back on a very team friendly
25:24
deal. Let's see what he can do. Add him to the
25:26
rotation based on what he said last year. He's very
25:28
motivated to prove himself in this league,
25:30
something he was never able to do in Seattle.
25:33
And to your point, if you can get these teams
25:35
into third and long, third obvious passing
25:37
situation, second and obvious passing situations,
25:40
which didn't happen often enough last year because
25:42
of the lack of run defense, we saw
25:44
Nick Ross and Jonathan Gannon dial up some crazy,
25:47
unconventional defensive fronts. Even
25:49
Matthew Stafford cited that last year, like what
25:51
are the Cardinals doing on third and obvious? You got
25:53
four guys walking around, Nobody has
25:56
their hand in the dirt, So that's intriguing.
25:58
I think the code proven. If
26:00
you can get him in those third and passing situations,
26:03
look out.
26:03
And I don't know if the Cardinals are quite
26:05
done on the defensive line. According
26:08
to reports, they met last week
26:10
with Jonah Williams, the former Rams defensive
26:12
end who signed with the Vikings. They also
26:14
reportedly met with Chargers
26:17
defensive lineman Austin Johnson, who
26:19
signed with the Bills. There might be some more
26:22
movement in that d line room still
26:24
to have, maybe even in the draft,
26:26
if not a veteran in free agency.
26:29
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26:47
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26:49
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27:04
After review, it is an incomplete
27:06
pad.
27:10
So Gannet one for one, saved
27:13
his best and only for last.
27:15
First time you used the red flag and it worked out.
27:17
Huh yeah, one for one.
27:18
It had been twenty years since the head coach had gone
27:21
entire season, so I know they reminded you
27:23
of that recently.
27:24
I put myself behind the team there because I really didn't
27:26
want to throw it.
27:28
I'll say this, if Gannon decides
27:31
to throw it this upcoming season
27:33
and is successful, he will earn
27:35
himself a third challenge one
27:37
of the new rules regulations.
27:40
If you will approve by owners at the annual
27:42
league meeting that yeah, you get a
27:44
third challenge as long as one of your first
27:47
two previous challenges is
27:49
successful. As we say, welcome back, it
27:51
is the Cardinals Red Seat Report Craig Raylupaul
27:53
KELVC and Covanbosch. And as
27:56
promised, we tracked down Darren Urban, who
27:58
I believe is on his way back to
28:00
Arizona spending some time with the
28:02
elite, the owners, the coaches
28:05
in Orlando at the annual league meeting. Darren,
28:07
how you doing nobbing?
28:10
I'm not quite on my way back.
28:12
I'm sitting in an airport. I mean me, on
28:14
your way back would actually be on an airplane moving,
28:16
but I am not quite to that.
28:17
Well, you did get in a car or a vehicle
28:20
from the hotel to the airport, so you're kind
28:22
of on your way.
28:24
I'm in a holding.
28:25
Pattern, all right, So look, if you
28:27
run into JG again in the airport
28:29
perhaps and you might have his own separate private
28:31
transportation. Do us all a
28:33
favor because I know he told you earlier today
28:36
there will be a joint practice
28:38
against an AFC team, and he
28:40
said a good AFC team. So I
28:43
would just like to put in kind of a
28:45
self serving request that it's
28:47
not against Miami, Jacksonville or
28:49
Houston. Okay, we don't need that sort
28:51
of humidity, Darren.
28:53
That's right. Are you are you? Are you training that
28:55
in for the possibility of having a Wednesday
28:57
Christmas Day game?
28:58
That's right?
29:00
Oh boy, you're right, Christmas Day
29:02
doubleheader, even though it's on a Wednesday.
29:05
I don't know if I like that. I'm not sure the
29:07
NBA would like it either. But speaking
29:09
of Jonathan Gannon his thirty minutes
29:12
sit down with the media, I think, Darren,
29:14
the big news item was the joint
29:16
practice, or the announcement of a joint practice
29:18
for a second straight year since Gannon has been the head
29:21
coach. Anything else, though, stand
29:23
out as far as what Gannon had to tell
29:25
you and everyone else, I mean.
29:27
Not necessarily stand
29:30
out. I wouldn't say. I mean, he hit a couple
29:32
of highlights. I mean, I did notice, and
29:34
I know you're a big fan of all the Kyler Murray questions
29:37
that continue to come towards Jonathan
29:39
Gannon. But I think, and he said
29:41
this before, I think the idea that
29:45
his excitement to
29:47
get Kyler Murray for an offseason
29:50
is palpable at this point. And obviously
29:53
Kyler wasn't able to do that last offseason
29:56
because of the injury. And you
29:59
truly get the belief that they think
30:01
he can make a big jump just
30:03
by having that kind of time on
30:05
task with Drew pettsing and working
30:07
with this offense. So that was something
30:09
that jumped out at me. And then
30:12
you know, a couple other guys that you know, he
30:14
sounded very optimistic about. Now, again,
30:17
you take it with a grain of salt, and Jonathan
30:19
Gannon's not the kind of guy who's gonna throw a guy under
30:22
the bus. But the way he talked about Greg
30:24
Dorch and the way he talked about David Collins
30:26
makes me believe that those guys are
30:28
going to get every opportunity to prove
30:31
that they can be solid contributors to this team.
30:33
Yeah, I thought that Zavin Collins question and
30:35
answer was interesting. We're all trying
30:37
to figure out his future. And
30:39
the one thing Gannon said that I thought was
30:41
significant, he said, you know what, you just can't overthink
30:44
things. And Kyle, I mean when you watched
30:46
Davin Collins play last year, and as someone who played
30:48
the position at a very high level, do
30:51
you think because East made it sound like,
30:53
you know what, Zavin this year just needs to unleash
30:55
it, think less, be athletic
30:57
more.
30:58
Would you agree with that. Yeah, it's a lot like
31:00
like a rookie sophomore season, your second
31:02
second year in the NFL. I mean, you typically
31:04
take a pretty big leap, at least a lot of players
31:07
do. And it's the same thing when you move to a completely different
31:09
position. It calls for a
31:11
completely different mindset, a completely different skill
31:13
set, and it takes time to hone your craft.
31:16
You know, I think he did come around and was
31:19
playing well late in the season, and
31:21
I think another full offseason to work
31:23
his craft to you know, work
31:25
on his pass rush to develop you know, what
31:27
is my go to move and then
31:29
you know, come up with one or two counters off of that. But
31:33
you know, he's definitely a student of the game. He's
31:35
gonna figure out what he does best,
31:38
what what offensive tackles
31:40
are vulnerable to, and and be able to bring
31:42
that into year two. I just think,
31:44
you know, a full year of experience coming off the
31:46
edge, it'll definitely help him.
31:48
I think you'll you'll see some drastic improvements
31:51
in year two.
31:51
Darren, you brought up Greg Dortsch and league
31:54
wide, the news of the day is this hybrid
31:56
kickoff rule and I wonder what that
31:59
means because Scanning kind of hinted
32:01
it when it was asked about the specialists
32:04
and the resigning of Blake Gillikin, And
32:06
now all of a sudden you add DJ Dallas.
32:09
Does Greg dorg seymore work
32:11
on offense? And was the reason
32:13
you got DJ Dallas is because you
32:15
are expecting this rule change as far as
32:17
kickoffs were concerned.
32:20
I think the Dallas thing, the DJ
32:22
Dallas thing, could be part of that. But you know, I
32:24
don't know if that means in terms of returns. You
32:27
know, I think there's some questions out there
32:29
as we listen to the press conference today talking
32:33
about the kickoff changes, how much
32:35
might that impact what kind of players
32:37
are playing on the kickoff
32:40
return and the kickoff coverage seams? I
32:42
mean, all of a sudden, you've got all these guys that are
32:44
lined up five yards away from each
32:46
other and can't move right away. I mean, are you
32:48
gonna look for different body types? Are
32:51
you gonna look for different kinds of speed
32:53
guys? I mean, it may be a little bit
32:55
different than it once was when you're trying to get guys
32:57
to sprint seventy yards down seat
33:00
to make a tackle.
33:01
Darren Urban at the league meetings coming
33:04
from Orlando back to the A Z from
33:06
the outside looking in there, and there seemed to be a lot
33:08
of buzz about a JJ McCarthy.
33:11
Where's it going? Tom Pelasero even said
33:13
that he did an anonymous poll of other executives
33:16
and they think, or at least the most popular
33:18
answer is JJ McCarthy now going
33:20
number two to Washington. And
33:23
then, of course, if he is the fourth QB,
33:25
there's the team picking number four and
33:27
maybe the pivot point of the draft. And we heard
33:29
what Sean Payton had to say, So just in general,
33:32
what was the buzz about the Cardinals at four
33:34
and whether there might be four quarterbacks
33:36
and then hence a Cardinals trade.
33:39
Well, I'm just going to tell you, Paul that I feel very
33:42
I felt very well prepared with all of it, since
33:44
you've been talking about JJ McCarthy up there
33:46
all these weeks.
33:47
There you go.
33:47
But I you know what, I
33:50
think there's a lot of unknown and I thought
33:52
Monty awesome for when I got a
33:54
brief chance to talk to him yesterday.
33:57
I thought hit it on the head, which
33:59
is when it comes to the Cardinals. Their
34:02
their involvement in this conversation is
34:05
basically tangential because they're the
34:07
number four team, But it has everything to
34:09
do with the three teams in front of them and that
34:12
what they might do. And I
34:14
think there's a lot to be said about that. I think
34:16
it's less about whether the Cardinals are hunting
34:18
to make a trade or not make a trade. But
34:21
you know exactly what is gonna happen. I think it's pretty
34:23
clear Kayleb Williams is gonna go one to the Bears.
34:25
So then what does happen? Does Do the
34:27
Commanders go with McCarthy,
34:29
Do they go with Drake May, do they go with Jayden Daniels.
34:32
Heck, they even let it out there that maybe
34:35
they trade the pick. I don't think that'll happen. The
34:37
Patriots a little bit more in question. I think
34:40
Robert Kraft wants to get a quarterback, but is
34:42
the right guy there at three? And I just think there's
34:45
there's so much there that it's a very sexy
34:47
topic. But as
34:49
we've talked about before, like the
34:51
chances are incredibly high that at least one or
34:54
two of these guys, and who knows, maybe three
34:56
of them out of these four guys, I'll bust.
34:59
So you know, there's a certain
35:01
buyer beam layer when it comes to this. If
35:03
I'm a team, I want to be very convicted
35:06
on whoever I take, whoever's there, and
35:09
if that person's not there, maybe I do think about
35:11
moving moving out.
35:12
If you missed any of Darren's work this
35:15
week in Orlando got Azycardinals
35:17
dot com, including his latest article five
35:19
takeaways from Jonathan Gannon's meet and greet
35:21
with the media this morning, Darren, appreciate
35:23
it. Safe travels and we'll see us
35:26
soon.
35:26
See in the office tomorrow. Guys.
35:28
All right, thanks Darren, good job with the question
35:30
about the workout and Jonathan Ganning, which,
35:32
by the way, if he does not work arms, I'm
35:34
done, I give up. I'm never going to the gym again.
35:37
It's just not fair.
35:40
Appreciate it, Darren, Hey, real quick before
35:42
we head to a break, Kyle, the one
35:45
league rule that I think has caused
35:47
a lot of attention, especially amongst
35:49
your fellow defenders, is
35:52
the banning of the hip drop tackle, or
35:54
specifically the swivel hip drop
35:56
tackle. And we've seen moves
35:58
banned before or relegated
36:01
out of the game. Players adjust, but
36:03
this one seemed to have a lot more noise behind
36:05
it, at least on social media.
36:07
Yeah, there's a lot of complaints.
36:09
You know.
36:09
Look, it is difficult as a
36:11
defender to tackle the right way. However,
36:14
there is a way, and the hip drop, to me
36:16
is just an extension of the horse collar tackle.
36:18
When you grab a piece of either
36:21
shoulder pads or the other person's body
36:23
and you just unweight yourself and drop
36:25
to the ground. That's when the potential
36:27
for injury happens. And I read an athletic
36:30
article they went back in last year. If
36:32
this rule was in place, it could have been called
36:34
potentially two hundred and thirty times. That's
36:36
about once per game, which is not a large
36:39
amount of penalties. But of those two
36:41
thirty fifteen of those hip
36:43
drop quote unquote hip drop tackles,
36:45
fifteen of them led to injuries, which
36:48
is a high injury rate. You're looking at about you know,
36:50
six and a half percent of the hip drop
36:52
tackles led to an injury. So I think
36:54
it's valid. I think it's warranted. The
36:57
tackle and the technique itself. It's
36:59
not as it comes when you're
37:01
either chasing a player from the side or
37:03
from behind and you just grab
37:05
and unweight yourself to get them on the ground. But you
37:08
know, if you run through them, if you wrap the knees,
37:10
wrap the ankles, there's plenty
37:12
of ways to get that player on the ground, and in my
37:15
opinion, better ways. So
37:17
I don't think it's a big deal. I think the complaints
37:20
aren't necessarily you know, hitting
37:22
the right spot. You know, they're it's
37:25
it's not making the game softer in any way.
37:27
If anything, the hip drop tackle is kind
37:29
of a soft way of tackling because instead of
37:31
running through the player and wrapping them up, you're
37:33
just grabbing and yanking them to the ground. So
37:36
I think it's it's it's a good rule
37:38
change, and it will add you
37:40
know, potentially hopefully, you
37:43
know, it'll keep more players on the roster late in the
37:45
season.
37:45
It doesn't mark the demise of full speed,
37:48
full contact football. Come on, let's not lose
37:50
our mind. To Kyle's point, it happens maybe once
37:52
a game. Yes, it'll be flagged up
37:54
by the referees in the preseason. It'll be
37:56
a point emphasis. It might drive some people
37:58
nuts. But there's still full speed
38:00
tackling, there's still blocking, it's
38:02
still full contact. So no,
38:05
there's no need there or anything in and
38:07
about putting flags on the players.
38:09
Some other new things. For twenty
38:11
twenty four, the trade deadline has
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been moved to the Tuesday after Week
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nine, so a week or two later
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than most recently this past season.
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Practice squad quarterbacks can be elevated
38:23
to the active roster as a team's emergency
38:25
third quarterback, and teams
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can designate a maximum of two
38:30
players per return when they are placed
38:32
on IR on the final roster cutdown
38:35
day. John Gains in this case
38:37
might have been eligible to return in season.
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This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network.
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We're intentional about the players that we add. It's
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not a case where we're just going out and signing
38:51
players and picking them out of a hat. I mean the
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players that we are selecting
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for us, whether it's to the draft or free agency,
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or are guys that we feel have
39:00
a good fit in what we're going
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to ask them to do. There's plenty of players,
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whether it's this draft cycle or a free agency
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that they're good players, but they maybe
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their skill set lends itself to a different
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scheme. And that's fine, that's going
39:13
to happen every year. But the guys that we
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ultimately add to this roster are guys that
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we believe can do what
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we ask them to do in our scheme. That's an
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important part of any person that we add to this program.
39:24
The word GM money Austin for used when
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addressing reporters last week, adding
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new players being intentional.
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Do they fit the scheme? Do
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they fit the locker room? Do they fit what
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we do here with the Arizona Cardinals
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in twenty twenty four, and some of those big names
39:40
just might not fit or they team might
39:43
not be ready for a big name
39:45
that might have been available on the free agent
39:47
market, we say welcome back here on the Cardinals
39:49
Red Seer Report craigoriolupaulk Alvc, and
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ky Vnabosh. If you missed it, we had Darren Urban
39:54
Live for Orlando from the Annual League meeting
39:56
in our previous segment, appreciate Darren joining
39:58
us here on this two. We
40:00
did see a lot of trends,
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I think, Kyle, as far as the players that
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giam Monti Austin Ford added this
40:08
offseason. One, if you're a receiver, you got
40:10
to be taller than six foot tall. And if
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you are a new player, that durability
40:15
is priority number one. You do
40:18
mean no good if you're not available on
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game day. And we saw every single
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new player added in free agency
40:25
played at least fourteen games
40:28
last season. Your best ability is
40:30
availability, and I think that is outside
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of talent. Yeah, you got to be able to play the game, but
40:36
can you play the game each and every week?
40:38
Yeah, it's been big, particularly with the last
40:40
two seasons we've had here. You
40:43
know, you combine the last two seasons
40:45
for the Arizona Cardinals, I don't know that any team has
40:47
had more players miss games because
40:49
of injuries, more players put in ir more
40:52
misstarts. You know, we thought
40:54
it was bad two years ago, and then some of
40:56
the same things happened this past year, and so you
40:59
know, it's it's tough. You can't always predict
41:02
injuries. You can't forecast when they're
41:04
gonna come or how they're gonna come, and sometimes it's
41:06
just a matter of luck. But it's
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huge, I mean to to you
41:11
know, we talked about this before, but to sign a guy
41:14
mid season and expect him
41:16
to come in understand your system, understand
41:18
your techniques, understand the checks, and
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for him to go out there on a Sunday and
41:23
be effective it's extremely difficult, extremely
41:26
difficult for the coaching staff, for the player himself,
41:30
and and really, you
41:32
know, late in a season, when
41:34
you're trying to make a push, when you're trying to get into the
41:36
playoffs and you're playing with new guys, it's
41:39
it's it doesn't work. And so what
41:41
you do is you you look for guys that you
41:43
can count on, and sometimes you do,
41:46
and that I don't believe that's the case with
41:48
our free agent signs, but sometimes you do sacrifice
41:51
a little bit in the talent category for
41:53
the availability and accountability category,
41:55
because you just need to know that I could count
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on this guy on Sundays, I know what I have
42:00
and I could build my game plan around
42:02
that. Whereas you're you know, with guys in and
42:04
out of the lineup are guys who have inconsistent
42:07
effort. You're
42:09
just it's always a guessing game. You don't know which guy's going to show
42:11
up on Sundays or if he's going to show up at all. It's
42:13
hard to predict.
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But you're looking for a track record, and the players
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added and free agency have a
42:19
track record. What's even harder to predict,
42:21
it's what's going to happen in the upcoming
42:24
draft. We are less than a month away.
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Cardinals with eleven draft picks,
42:28
six in the first ninety two
42:30
in the first round. The number one pick
42:33
is the fourth overall pick, though
42:35
Manti Austin Ford last week telling reporters,
42:38
Yeah, there is interest in that fourth overall
42:40
pick.
42:41
You know.
42:41
I'd say those phone calls are starting to pick up a little
42:44
bit, you know. I would say they'll probably
42:46
continue when we go down to Florida for
42:48
the owners meetings. I would imagine
42:50
some of those conversations will continue to pick
42:52
up, you know, But honestly, they probably
42:55
will not get real serious until we get
42:57
right up until the week of the draft.
43:00
More to last year, to be a fly on
43:02
the wall, Paul in Orlando,
43:04
for some of those conversations that Monty
43:06
Austin Fort may or may not have had this
43:09
past week, or I should say Sunday
43:11
into Tuesday morning, because as we
43:13
discussed already, there
43:15
is certainly a buzz around that fourth
43:17
overall pick.
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It's the pivot point in the draft right
43:20
now. The top three teams are going
43:23
quarterback, and if they don't, they're trading to a
43:25
team who's coming up for a quarterback.
43:27
So what will the Cardinals do at number
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four? Will they take the generational receiver?
43:31
By all accounts, although you guys know, I'm not nearly
43:33
as on board a unanisimally
43:36
as a complete slam dunk that Marvin Harrison
43:38
Junior is that much better than Romadonday
43:40
and or Malik Neighbors. Do the Cardinals
43:43
even value receiver that much to go number
43:45
four? Will they trade out? Will they trade down?
43:47
Will some team make them an offer they can't refuse
43:49
that that tends to be my opinion,
43:52
And then you just get the silly season. And
43:54
the only reason I bring this up is because Mike
43:56
Tannenbaum earlier today, a
43:58
guy who ran an NFL warm point
44:01
zero zero zero one percent of the world
44:03
has run an NFL warroom and for him to
44:06
advance out there, that the Cardinals should
44:09
draft JJ McCarthy at number
44:11
four, then trade Kyler Murray plus
44:13
a third round pick to Minnesota for eleven.
44:16
Then take Quinny and Mitchell the corner at eleven,
44:18
and then take the receiver Ladd McConkie at
44:20
twenty seven. So now you have JJ
44:22
McCarthy and Ladd McConkie instead of Kyler
44:25
and Marvin Harrison junior. That's
44:27
a no komprendo. But that's where
44:30
we are at this point.
44:30
And stress the word silly, Kyle, when we talk
44:32
about scenarios.
44:34
Like that, it's absolutely silly.
44:36
You know.
44:37
Look, there's some talk about
44:39
what if we traded away and Marvin Harrison
44:41
becomes a generational talent like we think he will be. Look,
44:44
this is why you hire a competent GM with competent
44:46
people. They've got their system in place, they
44:49
know what they're looking for, and
44:52
you just got to you just got to trust them. You
44:54
know, it's taking him a full year to get the people he wants
44:56
around him to make the right decision to
44:58
go through this type of process. But if the trade
45:00
is made, it will be done based
45:02
on their evaluations and their analytics
45:05
and it will be the right decision.
45:06
A month away, A lot to discuss
45:08
until then. This is the Arizona Cardinals
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45:14
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45:24
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