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Actually interesting. We're just talking about the state
0:18
of California might go all masks. The governor
0:21
is considering a mask mandatory for the whole
0:23
state. Um uh, there
0:26
towns in Arizona that through
0:28
this whole thing mass current
0:30
required. Now they're going to be required. And
0:33
for the crowd out there that refuses to our masks
0:35
or feel it's like some sort of attempt by the governor
0:37
the government to control you. I
0:40
don't know how that's gonna go. We just got this text
0:42
after we were talking about it. I would quit my job if
0:44
a mask were required rather
0:47
than wear I'm a mask. So we'll
0:50
see. I think it's gonna be
0:52
become more common as we get further
0:54
into the summer than it was two
0:56
months ago when we were all scared. What I'm
0:59
just sick of just conflict,
1:01
people yelling at each other and tweeting
1:04
in the rest of it. I just have had enough, you
1:06
know, how about a little agreement. I
1:09
just wanna I think the great
1:11
question of history is what we're going to figure
1:13
out because this is all new. Um,
1:16
when people say, Okay, that's enough, I can't take it,
1:18
that's too much, do they just stop
1:20
paying attention to stuff? And
1:24
the forces of evil roll over us,
1:27
um the extremists, or
1:30
do we somehow get back some sense
1:33
of normal?
1:36
Yeah, interesting question. I
1:39
guess we will off find. We will find
1:41
out, we will find going together. Speaking of conflict
1:43
and that sort of thing. You remember, Gone with the Wind
1:45
removed from HBO Max or whatever
1:47
that streaming services because
1:49
of its racist portrayal. Blah blah blah.
1:52
I'm increasingly thinking that was a publicity
1:54
stunt. But Variety, I've never
1:56
seen Gone with the Wind. I don't think. I have never
1:58
seen it end, and I've seen chunks of it here and there, and
2:00
I probably should I didn't realize it's the biggest
2:02
grossing movie of all time adjusted for inflation.
2:05
It's fine, it's fine. It
2:08
had a couple of giant stars. It was
2:10
an epic, the rest of it. But I haven't
2:12
seen it. But variety,
2:14
which is the Bible of Hollywood? Are
2:16
there any car chases and Gone with willyne carriage
2:20
chase? Variety?
2:24
Where was the Bible? Is
2:27
that? No? Not not the literal Bible.
2:29
It's the Bible of Hollywood. Is
2:31
that? With ten other problematic
2:34
films that could use warning labels,
2:37
don't dare watch these films until
2:39
we name them stay
2:41
with us. So we got a presidential election
2:43
coming up. Interesting situation. I
2:47
had a nerd where the guy running against Trump
2:49
is leading in the polls without like
2:51
having press conferences, without going out and
2:53
rallying, without really doing much um
2:57
uh. And there there's there's some belief. I
3:00
think it's absolutely true that they feel
3:02
like the less he has seen, the better for
3:05
his candidacy. The Biden
3:08
of two thousand probably
3:11
could beat Donald Trump in the election.
3:14
Ken the Biden of two thousand twenty. And
3:16
if people don't see them in their mind, they're
3:18
thinking Joe Biden from years ago. But
3:21
if they see him now, they think, oh jeez,
3:23
he's not that Joe Biden I remember, or
3:25
if they hear him anyway, here's a little of him
3:28
coming out yesterday to speak to the world American.
3:30
He's a president who
3:32
will do the work. I'm
3:37
ready in day one after more than three years
3:39
in office. Why isn't Donald Trump ready?
3:43
Mr? President? Wake
3:45
up, get
3:49
to work. There's
3:51
so much more to be done. Thank
3:57
you, Holy
4:00
can't. What's the visual on that, Sean? Have you
4:02
seen it? Well? He kind
4:04
of holds, so he finishes. I
4:06
don't think you can be overstated that that was the end
4:08
of the speech. Right, It's supposed to be very clear when you're
4:10
done, and then if you're speaking in front of a friendly crowd, that kind
4:12
of clap. But he kind of petered off there, thank
4:15
you as he lifted up his his notes and kind
4:17
of signaled to the crowd with that's it and started
4:19
walking away, and then kind of a slow clap started
4:23
coming from the crowd. So I just glad to hear he could
4:25
lift his notes because it sounded like, you know, he
4:27
was too weak actually get
4:29
the air born. Nobody else could figure out that was
4:31
the end of the speech either until he was leaving the podium.
4:34
I didn't hear a goose. So that's good. That's a step
4:36
forward. You know what they are winnow
4:38
and they're they're yeah, exactly,
4:40
they're sharpening their game. I
4:44
mentioned this earlier this morning, and I particularly
4:46
we particularly liked this little ending part thank
4:50
you. That is the weakest
4:53
thank you I've ever heard. I am serious.
4:56
I hear that, and I have this animal
4:58
reaction that that is one
5:00
of my species about to die. I
5:04
have a concerned I think,
5:06
oh, he does not sound good. Probably
5:08
got to gather the family. I'm serious,
5:10
he sounds terrible. I heard
5:12
a different part of the speech on NPR. Obviously
5:14
they weren't gonna highlight that, but I heard a different partner
5:17
speech on NPR, and um
5:19
uh, I thought he must have a cold
5:22
or something because he sounds ill, sounds
5:24
sick like his voice is a little more or
5:27
off for a little more air than
5:29
usual. Now, there was talking earlier
5:31
of a previous political thank you that
5:34
had current, that had help until that
5:36
time held the belt
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for weakest thank you? Um
5:40
do we want to compare Joe's
5:43
with us today? Joe? Where are you? Where
5:45
is Joe? Joe here with us today? Joe?
5:49
I thought you were here today.
5:54
All right, well you're all Joe the blammer,
5:56
So I'll have your stand up and say
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I thank you. Oh
6:03
boy, that went poorly. That
6:05
was more. That
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was more emotional death
6:10
than physical. Oh
6:13
you think he was was embarrassed and piste
6:15
off at his staffers or just realized
6:17
I'm not gonna win. I'm I'm not gonna be
6:19
president. That's what that thank you was. Okay,
6:22
that was an emotional Physically
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he's still you know he was. That
6:27
was the will to live as opposed to
6:30
his life force, which is Biden's
6:33
that was the election. Can't get enough.
6:36
There's a lot of political speech that's crap,
6:38
and it appeals to the emotions and
6:41
it's it's nonsense. I'm
6:43
much more into policy than falling
6:46
in love with a candidate. On the other
6:48
hand, and stylistic flourishes,
6:51
right, yeah. On the other hand, if
6:54
Joe Biden had said those same
6:56
words in a voice
6:59
that suggested, did I'm not going
7:01
to be dead tomorrow, in a voice that suggested
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I have energy, I'm intent, I'm serious
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about this stuff, Mr President. After
7:08
three years, you're still not ready. There's
7:10
work to be done. Get to work. Thank
7:13
you, We thanks everybody, thank you. But
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no, he sounds like he's dying. The
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only thing I think is the only
7:22
thing that would explain it would be if
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you're right that there they're feeling
7:28
is we need to be really calm and steady as
7:30
just the polar opposite of
7:33
of frenetic craziness.
7:35
We can bore the electorate in our way
7:38
to the White House. And maybe he just overdid
7:40
it, or if you're right about he was
7:42
sick. He had a throat thing going and he
7:45
was going for quiet, and it just choked off
7:47
completely. You know, sometimes you're worn out. We we
7:49
did uh we didn't add or something
7:52
a couple of months back and then the hands
7:54
in, our executive producer, brought it to us and said, I
7:56
didn't air this. You want to take a look at this, and then he played
7:58
it back force and it was real a low energy.
8:00
It was like, I don't know if we're both tired or
8:02
distracted or whatever, but it's like, come to Jones
8:05
plymouth or whatever is and
8:07
and so you know, maybe he wouldn't buy a
8:09
plymouth from from Jones with your money.
8:13
Maybe he was just in one of those moods. But because
8:17
it can happen to anybody, and we're where we're robusters
8:19
can be. I can live a hundred pounds clear over my head, um,
8:22
not even break a sweat. Uh Yeah,
8:24
but that's that's that's troubling. That's
8:27
troubling. I'm telling you what. If I'm the Trump
8:29
campaign, I'm getting a hold of that, man, I'm running
8:31
that all over and over. And
8:33
we mock regularly the whole idea of veep steaks,
8:36
which is always overblown. Who gets chosen
8:38
to be the vice president? Who freaking cares,
8:40
and then then that it has almost no effect on anybody's
8:43
a three point bumping his whole state of New
8:45
Hamps. I've never known a single person that votes
8:47
for the president based on who their vice presidential
8:49
choices could be. The exceptions could be the exception
8:52
if you think one, there's
8:54
no way he does two terms, and
8:56
two I don't think he can last
8:58
four years. His personal physician
9:01
has declared him, oh fittig one
9:03
foot in the grave. I
9:06
don't want yeah, yeah, the vat matters. Are you kidding?
9:09
He does not sound like a man who will be alive
9:11
in four years. I don't want to get too dark. But
9:13
if me neither. If that's if
9:16
that's Grandpa saying albeit
9:18
at your graduation in the spring, and
9:20
he sounds like that, you think, I hope so
9:22
right right? Yeah, that's
9:25
not dark. That's just human concern.
9:28
Yeah, wake up, thank
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you, wake up, thank
9:33
you. I'm
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telling you that has an emotional
9:38
reaction. It causes It causes
9:41
me to think, oh, he's he's blacks
9:43
a little bozzas
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say, so you
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should you should? You can't watch Gone with the
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Wind on one streaming
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service that I think was going for a policy and I think
9:56
it's back up now with the disclaimer at all.
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My God, slaves aren't actually
10:01
happy being slaves. Thank you
10:03
for watching, Honey, did you hear about this? Turns
10:06
out there unhappy? Ten
10:08
other problematic films that could use a
10:10
warning label Stay with us
10:31
The Armstrong and Jetty Show. I'm
10:36
the Scared of the Virus guy now, I and
10:38
just I think looking
10:40
at this, Florida has all the markings can become next
10:43
coronavirus epicenter? What's
10:45
going on in Arizona? About
10:47
it? And I've heard so many predictions, you know, wait
10:50
till two weeks from now. I'm often
10:54
it doesn't happen. Sometimes it doesn't. I
10:56
hope I'm wrong. Yeah, I want
10:58
to be wrong deeply. Mm hmm. Also
11:04
here's your headline. Judge rules
11:06
in favor of squatter illegally
11:09
occupying house. If you'd
11:11
like your head to explode, stay tuned for that, sorrow
11:13
boy, the more laws, the less justice.
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You know? Who said that? Do you tell
11:19
me? Because I don't remember John Wayne's
11:21
exactly John Wayne and Mark
11:24
Twain or Liel Wayne, Bruce
11:26
Wayne. I can't remember Alex Baldiley.
11:30
Actually it may have been Plato.
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One more headline. We haven't mentioned while that. There's
11:37
one more headline, folks, Marcus Cerrio,
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Marcus Sirius Cicero.
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That goes back to Cicero. Yeah,
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the more laws, the less justice. Wow, that's really interesting.
11:49
Yeah, the government governs best, which governs the least.
11:52
They wouldn't have had two percent of
11:54
the laws we have in modern society. Um,
11:57
top that shot the dude in the back and Atlanta the
12:00
parking lot at the Wendy's eleven counts
12:02
could face the death penalty and
12:04
the charges yesterday. So that's where that
12:06
is. Yep, I maintained
12:08
they are overcharging him to keep calm
12:11
in the streets, relative calm,
12:13
and you will see some of those charges
12:16
fall away in the coming weeks. But we'll
12:18
we'll find out. So this,
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Uh, the folks at Variety are writing about
12:23
Gone with the Wind getting yank from the HBO service,
12:26
so you would hear that the HBO service exists,
12:28
in my opinion, And they
12:30
go into other films that are racist
12:33
of course, Birth of a Nation, Song
12:35
of the South, but the range of problematic
12:37
films is wide, including Breakfast at Tiffany's.
12:40
Mackey really stereotyped role as a Japanese
12:43
man is appalling there right West
12:45
Side Story, Puerto Ricans are almost
12:47
only shown as gang members. Now,
12:50
Birth of a Nation. There's nobody
12:52
that doesn't watch that at this point, is
12:54
like, and it's
12:56
just a drama, historical artifice,
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right, it's a it's a it's something you're it's
13:02
a look at a different time, right, And
13:05
and racism in the same way. Uh,
13:07
you watch what's the Lenny Reef
13:09
install, the movie about Hitler's eyes Um
13:13
Triumph of the Will. I mean you don't
13:15
watch that thinking, Hey, I heard it's a documentary
13:17
about Germany. No, everybody knows
13:19
what it is. Moving
13:22
along the nineteen you
13:24
seen Breakfast at Tiffany's and Mickey Rooney's.
13:27
It's terrible, it's pretty over the top. But
13:30
so what But what are they claiming it should come with? Because
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that's a great movie, Breakfast Tiffany. I like watching
13:34
the westerns from like the forties, fifties,
13:36
sixties where all the Indians were just Italian guys
13:40
or somewhat olive skin.
13:42
But are they talking about pulling Breakfast with Tiffany's?
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Well, no problematic,
13:47
okay, but what do you and how about if
13:49
you're gonna start putting disclaimers on Gone with
13:51
the Wind. Here's some other movies that
13:54
might deserve disclaimers. Exact,
13:56
the disclaimers say, Mickey
13:59
Rooney has a crazy racist
14:01
role as a Japanese guy, and we don't approve
14:04
and it here's the movie. How
14:06
about seventy five slave owner
14:08
drama Man Dingo jaw
14:10
dropping and apparently aimed at a KKK
14:13
demographic, writes Variety
14:15
dot com. Let's
14:17
see, but those are not even the ten films
14:19
that need to be presented with disclaimers and discussions
14:22
before and after a screening. Oh,
14:24
that's gonna make movie watching fun. Yeah,
14:27
And and many of these movies are completely
14:30
iconic ones. Dirty
14:32
Harry, I've seen it
14:34
multiple times. Remember started a craze for
14:36
movies about Maverick cops who get the job done
14:39
followed by their following their instincts rather
14:41
than the law. Oh, they say it's a problem from a
14:43
cops standpoint, them liberal
14:45
judges and do gooders, and the villain
14:47
claims police brutality, planting the seed
14:50
that other such charges are fake moves
14:52
to get sympathy. Yeah, it's interesting those movies,
14:54
the Dirty Harry movies, and what was the Charles
14:56
Bronson version. He
14:59
was always taking vengeance on something that somebody
15:02
murdered his daughter, and then he was going out anyway.
15:05
Those were very popular when crime was at
15:07
its height in America, when crime
15:09
was out of control in big cities, those movies
15:11
were popular. It gave people a sense of
15:13
control. Will we uh
15:16
have that disclaimer? Before the movie, liberal
15:19
policies led to an enormous explosion
15:21
in crime. People were scared
15:23
legitimately, and so fantasies
15:26
about you know, vigilantes who
15:28
are popular. Now you're not gonna hear that Forrest
15:31
Gump. The film
15:33
is condescending to anyone with a disability
15:37
and people with aids, among others. All right, that's
15:39
dumb all the way around. It's actually hostile the protesters,
15:41
activists in counterculture. And the
15:44
lovable title character's name
15:46
is full name, Nathan
15:48
Bedford Forrest named after his grandfather,
15:51
first grand wizard of the clan. And
15:54
you like that. Also a
15:56
Confederate general um that
15:59
one is stupid, and that one is that the
16:01
other ones. Okay, that one's just stupid.
16:03
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom,
16:05
the exotic villains are portrayed as primitive
16:08
and bloodthirsty four runners, resulting
16:10
in negative and stereotypical depictions
16:12
of India and of Hindu customs. Or
16:15
is this serious list? Or is this serious?
16:18
You can't telle
16:22
Once upon a Time in Hollywood controversial
16:25
depiction of of Bruce Lee. Black
16:28
people seem non existent, the Mexicans
16:30
as they're called, their car valets and waitresses,
16:33
and Charles Manson's white supremacist
16:35
agenda is ignored because
16:37
he was completely psychotic. It's also
16:40
not a factual movie. Well,
16:42
but it's problematic. The
16:45
Searchers John Wayne plays a Civil War
16:47
veteran on the Confederate side who goes
16:49
on a five year searcher's niece who was kidnapped
16:52
by the Comanches. Wayne's
16:54
character is an unapologetic racist who sees
16:56
all Native Americans as less than human, et
16:59
cetera, etcetera. Right the
17:01
Silence of the Lambs. If
17:04
we go down this road, we will eliminate
17:06
a great portion of
17:08
books and movies that
17:11
are part of the
17:14
greatest stuff ever made. The problem with the
17:16
Silence of the Lands Clarice is
17:18
that it depicts the criminals transgender identification
17:21
as part of his mental illness, shows
17:24
him putting on women's makeup, tucking his mail
17:27
jet way. I wish I could tug mine away.
17:30
They never do me any not my problem.
17:32
He plays with his poodle and dances with
17:34
himself. Problematic. We
17:36
need a disclaimer. We got more
17:38
of these. There may be your favorite movies.
17:41
Stupid
18:05
Jennifer Lawrence has broken Twitter silence.
18:08
We've created a new public Twitter accounts to comment
18:10
on racial injustice. Will be monitoring your Twitter
18:12
account all day long to see what the young actress, the
18:14
twentysomething actress has to say. There is
18:16
not a microns earth powerful
18:19
enough to find him. Give a damn. I know it's
18:21
something. It's something. It's something
18:23
that they announce it with the assumption that a lot of people
18:25
care, and then the news media repeats it is if
18:27
there are a lot of people that I find
18:29
that interesting. Well, Jackie takes all kinds?
18:32
Does it take all kinds? I find
18:34
myself wondering this. It probably takes
18:36
several kinds to keep the world turning.
18:39
It doesn't take all kinds. There are several
18:41
kinds. I think ought to go, oh, and I want
18:43
to tease this Albuquerque, what how do I personalities?
18:46
Obviously not you know how
18:49
the town of Albuquerque New Mexico's
18:51
largest city, is UH dealing
18:53
with calls to defund the police. Pretty good idea
18:55
that I could easily see becoming the model UH
18:58
in a lot of places around a Mary talk
19:00
about that coming. Alburquerque famously liberal.
19:03
Everybody knows as Albuquerque goes, so does
19:05
the rest of the country. What's common?
19:08
What? A Colorado
19:10
Springs man who lived in a dead woman's house
19:12
and used her car for months after she passed away
19:15
is causing more trouble for the victims family.
19:19
The man by the name of Jack Cole. There's
19:21
a series of reports looking into alleged
19:23
squatting cases in Colorado. This news station
19:26
is doing. More than two years
19:28
after Cole was evicted by the courts, he's
19:30
filed a lawsuit against the dead woman's family
19:32
for more than a quarter of a million dollars. In
19:35
a bombshell discovery, News five has
19:37
learned in El Paso County judge has ruled in
19:39
his favor. There is a twist,
19:42
So don't let your head explode yet. But so
19:45
he heard the woman died and then went into her house.
19:48
Is that what happened? No,
19:50
No, it explains that in a little bit. But she
19:53
passed in a bunch of squatters took over her house and um
19:56
A coal is certain currently serving
19:58
time behind bars at the Crowley County Correctional
20:00
Facility on an unrelated sexual assault
20:02
case. Even though he's locked up, that hasn't
20:05
stopped him from filing numerous lawsuits,
20:07
including one against the Clark family for more
20:09
than four hundred thousand dollars. In
20:11
a jaw dropping decision, a judge ruled
20:13
in his favor. However, this news
20:16
station did an investigation review the court records.
20:18
Um it shows that Cold One is cased by falsifying
20:21
records, records that looked really
20:23
legitimate. They fooled the court and they'll
20:25
probably get reversed. But those familiar
20:27
with cold says is the type of criminal just won't go
20:29
away. He's a liar and we have to live
20:31
through this, said one of his victims. It's just
20:34
not right. Um
20:36
So she lost her
20:39
daughter in October. The
20:42
woman passed away. If the loss of a loved one
20:44
wasn't enough grief, she met with a surprise when she
20:46
went to Wendy's Colorado Springs home to gather
20:48
her belongings. Jerry said
20:50
there were random people living in sign whom
20:53
she had never met for months.
20:55
Listen to this. Now it's
20:58
your family's property. Your
21:01
family member passes away,
21:04
you show up, somebody's invaded that home.
21:07
I would assume I call the cops and they're out in fifteen
21:09
minutes. Four months, Jerry
21:12
fought with the court system to get the squatters
21:15
out, all while this cold
21:17
character and his friends taunted the family
21:20
at Christmas time. They even put up her decorations
21:22
talking about pain. Wow. Finally
21:25
in tween so
21:27
it took about a year, but very
21:30
tempting to try to find a certain crowd
21:32
of people then for cash would get
21:34
those people out of there. Yes, yes,
21:38
extremely tempting. The only thing
21:40
that would stop you from doing it is realizing
21:43
how twisted our court
21:45
system and laws have been. And
21:48
you'd think I
21:50
can't even ask them to leave, much
21:52
less you know something more extreme. So
21:55
the next year they finally ordered
21:58
the squatters to leave. Posession
22:00
of the home was returned to Wendy's family. Of
22:02
course, it was destroyed by the squatters.
22:05
What it's pathetic, Jerry said, absolutely
22:08
pathetic. We told the police we needed help. Nobody
22:10
could help us because it was a civil case. They couldn't
22:13
do anything. What is wrong with our system.
22:15
God dang it, how is occupying
22:18
property a civil
22:20
case? If somebody like that ever
22:23
happened in your life and you were dealing with it all the
22:25
time, obviously alongside the rest of
22:27
your life, job, kids,
22:29
health, everything else, you're dealing with this all
22:31
the time, God dang it,
22:33
that would be maddening. This News five, By
22:35
the way, good for them. They did multiple stories
22:37
on alleged squatting situations, eventually
22:40
forced lawmakers to pass legislation expert
22:42
adding court proceedings to get unauthorized
22:45
documents out of homes. Um,
22:47
that's most of what I know about this is the
22:49
same as a lot of people. Is that movie Pacific
22:51
Heights with Michael Keaton when they couldn't
22:54
get him out of that that house
22:56
in San Francisco. Yeah, and the law
22:58
kept saying aneling NewBoy. Fast
23:00
forward to today, Wendy's family is dealing with another
23:03
nightmare in the form of a lawsuit. Um,
23:07
Wendy's sister, the deceased woman's
23:09
sister, is one of three defendants. This
23:11
cold guy is suing seeking
23:14
more than four hundred thousand dollars in damages,
23:17
And so you've got to defend against a
23:19
lawsuit which means you I got to hire a lawyer
23:22
and spend all sorts of money and
23:24
time. He's a long time convicted
23:26
felon, does not have legal counsel. But that didn't
23:28
prevent him from winning his case. Again,
23:31
that's probably going to get overturned. But um,
23:33
can you imagine I went to get my mail and had
23:35
a letter from the El Paso County Court that there was
23:38
a default judgment entered against me. I
23:40
had no idea there was a lawsuit I was
23:42
involved in. I never got served paperwork, so
23:44
I had no knowledge this was happening whatsoever. She
23:47
just got hit with the judgment by the county.
23:50
Unfreaking believable. You know, life,
23:53
liberty, and property is
23:57
are the sacred right
24:00
that this country was founded on. The founding
24:02
fathers change
24:04
the phrase property to pursuit of happiness.
24:07
But what they meant and read, um, read
24:10
any one of Tim sander F's great books,
24:12
The Right to earn a living for instance, Um,
24:16
the pursuit of happiness was a phrase that meant
24:18
the pursuit of economic
24:21
achievement, making money, getting
24:23
property, et cetera. They thought property
24:25
was a little narrow because
24:28
you know, you have a right for instance, to sell.
24:30
If you have a horse, you have the right to sell the horse to somebody
24:32
who has money, and so life,
24:34
liberty, and property are the founding principles.
24:37
And the idea that you could find scumbags
24:39
occupying your house and they wouldn't be dragged
24:42
out of there two hours later just absolutely
24:44
disgusts me. You hate
24:46
to be disgusted. Um,
24:50
we need transition music, Michael, come on, what
24:52
are you doing in there? Wow? Kid,
24:54
you do We gotta beg you for you cork
25:00
com free. They'll
25:03
not keep yelling at Michael. What I'm gonna cheery mood? Now,
25:07
come on singing with me? Just
25:16
when you no
25:18
not So, there's a
25:20
lot of people saying to fund the police doesn't
25:22
mean getting rid of the police, And then sometimes
25:24
you ask other people and they say, that's exactly what you
25:26
mean. Um, there's a funny
25:28
clip I saw Geese. I should have figured out where
25:31
it was. Katie turn and MSNBC interviewing
25:33
somebody somewhere about
25:36
the whole the fund the police thing. This is last week and
25:38
she said, let's just for the record, get it out there.
25:40
When when people are talking about defund the police,
25:42
you don't mean getting rid of the police, and he said, that's
25:45
exactly what I mean, and er,
25:49
um, well, that's
25:52
that's a lot like Black Lives Matter.
25:55
People are in support of the phrase,
25:58
and some people think they're in part of
26:00
the organization but have no idea the full
26:03
panoply of what the organization
26:06
wants, and if they knew that, they'd be gainst it,
26:08
but they'd still be up with the sentiment, or I'm
26:10
sorry, down with the sentiment, as the kids
26:12
say. And it's become a take a seriously
26:14
not literally thing, which is kind of funny
26:16
obviously, since that's what the Trump crowd
26:19
says about Trump. Um uh,
26:21
the people don't mean we don't mean to fund the police, because
26:24
if you pull cutting money
26:26
to police departments, fient approval
26:29
to fund the police does better. Because
26:31
there's a certain crowd that doesn't
26:34
actually mean to fund the police. They just mean, you
26:37
know, fix the police department, Sure,
26:39
fix policing in America, that say
26:42
most Americans and most cops. Yeah, And this
26:44
is what they're doing in Albuquerque. And I have a feeling this is
26:47
going to become popular a lot of places, and different versions
26:49
of it. Calls to to fund the police are
26:51
being heard in New Mexico's largest city of Albuquerque,
26:53
where the mayor Tim Keller announced plans to create
26:55
a first of its kind unarmed public
26:58
safety force. The Albuquerque
27:00
Community Safety Department will serve alongside
27:03
the Albuquerque Police Department, but be
27:06
made up of unarmed social workers who are trained
27:08
in dealing with homelessness,
27:10
mental health, non violent emergencies, which
27:13
is something the police all of our country have been
27:15
asking for for a long time. Yeah,
27:18
let's try it. The new
27:20
force will give dispatchers a third option
27:22
besides police or fire fighters,
27:25
to de escalate certain situations.
27:27
You send somebody is an expert in mental
27:29
health and homelessness to go over and deal with that situation
27:31
over there, Cops or firefighters who
27:33
aren't trained to deal with either one of those
27:36
things just blasted
27:38
with a hose. Right, if
27:40
you're a firefighter, why do you have your axe
27:43
out? Why are you knocking down my tent? I'm
27:45
a firefighter. I don't what I'm always supposed to do. I
27:47
would. I've always thought it funny that they have to throw
27:49
on their full gear on calls, including
27:51
medical calls. What if in case there's a spontaneous
27:54
combustion, which based on our writing
27:56
with various fire departments. There's way more
27:58
of that than there is into a fire.
28:00
Oh yeah, yeah, they really
28:03
firemen or firefighters is
28:05
I mean, they do that, certainly, but that's not
28:08
most of what they do. Funding
28:10
for the new department would come from shifting resources
28:12
away from five other departments, including
28:15
the police, Fire and Transit department. So you'd be
28:17
in effect defunding police,
28:19
fire, and transit departments to have some money
28:21
to spend on these other things. If we can be grown
28:23
ups and talk about it this way. Um,
28:27
So there you go. I think that will catch on all across
28:29
the country. And I think, well,
28:32
like I've said several times over the last couple of weeks, some people
28:34
see this as conservatives getting things
28:36
done that they wanted to get done with AOC leading
28:39
the way or other lefties.
28:41
Right right politics is so odd
28:44
because the sadest psycho
28:48
kneeling on poor George Floyd's neck,
28:51
Um has nothing to do with police
28:54
responding to mental health calls. The
28:58
other has anything to do with chokeholds. Right
29:00
right, Um doesn't not anything to do with a lot of the things,
29:03
but right, it has to do with getting psychos
29:05
off police forces. Um. But It's
29:07
led to a lot more. We do it all
29:09
the time. We passed gun laws or various rules
29:12
after a school shooting that would have not affected
29:14
that particular shooting. Yeah, it feels like we're
29:16
doing something. People don't want to feel powerless.
29:20
Another thing is going to bring up. What would Joe
29:23
Biden say at this moment? That's what I'm wanting you,
29:27
Holy cow, somebody check
29:29
on him. So send the firefighters
29:32
to Joe Biden's house. I think he's dying. They
29:37
ought to call firefighters first
29:39
aiders. I
29:42
wonder if it just um doesn't
29:44
get you as much support politically.
29:49
Well, I think they've always been firefighters. Their
29:51
duties have grown through
29:55
the years. I mean back in the day, if you're sick,
29:57
you'd call your doctor, he'd come to your house. Now
30:00
you call the fire department. Would
30:03
have been something, oh yeah, good
30:05
time. Yeah yeah,
30:07
I like my doctor too, he's a good guy. The
30:10
most popular article in the New York Times
30:13
I regularly checked that column. Most popit articles
30:15
usually the ones people are reading and tweeting around. The most number
30:18
one right now is when I talked about yesterday flushing
30:21
the toilet flings, Corona
30:23
aerosol all over the place. You're
30:29
shedding the virus. You're going to say
30:31
a different word. You're
30:35
listening on a radio and went under a bridge and
30:37
things. You have a little fuzzy that was again
30:39
that word was, uh, what
30:41
you call the softy shedding.
30:46
Uh, you're shedding the virus when you do
30:48
your thing in the bathroom and then when you flush the toilet,
30:51
it sends the germs up in the air. And that's
30:53
a pretty bad way. Probably just don't care.
30:55
So public restrooms,
30:57
that's where I should throw my mask on before
30:59
I go in the restroom over here where there's a bunch of people. Have
31:01
been people in there, standing there, breathing, flushing
31:04
toilets, etcetera. That's probably not
31:06
probably guaranteed. That's the most dangerous
31:08
place in this buildings. The second I'm
31:10
gonna start going in the woods like a bear.
31:13
It seems like a sensible bear in
31:15
the woods. Seat.
31:18
Again, I
31:22
don't know that much about bear epidemiology.
31:26
Thank you for asking. That's the question. Um
31:29
Our text line is four one five
31:31
to nine five k FTC. What do we want
31:33
to talk about coming up? You know, we could get
31:35
into the game and transgender ruling the Supreme
31:38
Court just on leave. There are a lot of folks
31:40
who, with all due love and respect for Neil Corsets,
31:43
you're saying, boy, he got this one totally wrong. And
31:45
and it's not just I'm against
31:47
that. I think he's wrong, but his
31:49
reasoning doesn't hold on. Yeah, I've I've
31:51
read, I've read a couple of columns on that. People
31:54
are saying that's a major deal, and I guess
31:56
I just don't get it. Well, maybe I'll get it more
31:58
when Joe, who almost went the loss, no came
32:01
super close, explains it to us coming up the
32:21
Armstrong and Jetty Show. Yeah,
32:28
I have read a couple of articles, seen some people
32:30
say that ruling, the Supreme Court ruling, the
32:32
other day rulings, there were a number of them. The
32:34
guns stuff was a big deal that they chose
32:37
not to take up. And then this, um, well,
32:39
the the immunity, the conditional conditional
32:43
immunity, qualified immunity, that's it. Yeah,
32:45
I didn't take that interview on that. Do you think I could
32:47
remember? But then the whole gay transgender stuff,
32:50
I guess I didn't fully appreciate what a big deal this was.
32:53
Yeah, essentially, I mean,
32:55
really really really boiled down you can't be
32:57
fired because you're gay or transgender. Trans enter
33:00
and Neil Gorstch surprised a lot of people
33:02
by writing not only
33:04
agreeing with the liberals on the bench, but
33:06
writing the decision. I didn't know you could fire
33:09
somebody prior to that for being gay or transgender.
33:11
Yeah, and you
33:14
know, putting aside that basic question.
33:16
A lot of people are really critical of gorse
33:18
such as uh logic in the
33:20
decision. And I'm gonna have to rush a little
33:23
bit on this. Um Title
33:27
seven was passed a number of years ago. It's
33:29
been interpreted by the courts. It's you can't
33:31
discriminate against people for several reasons,
33:33
race, religion, and sex. And
33:36
and Gorsetch is arguing that
33:39
because sexual orientation and identity
33:41
is tied up in sex, that that
33:44
that counts. And this,
33:47
uh, this was written by Ryan Anderson Guests
33:49
who is a constitutional lawyer and wrote
33:52
a friend of the Court brief on this case and
33:54
everything else. And I found this really
33:56
compelling stuff. But um Gorstch
33:58
argues that whenever say is a butt four
34:01
cause of negative employment decisions,
34:03
sex discrimination has occurred, He writes, if
34:05
the employer intentionally relies in part
34:07
on an individual employees sex when
34:10
deciding to discharge the employee,
34:13
or if changing it. To put it differently, if changing
34:15
the employee sex would have yielded a different choice
34:17
by the employer, a statutory violation
34:19
has occurred. Um. One
34:22
example was, sean
34:25
is allowed to date Chicks's
34:30
not able, but allow if
34:33
you change sean sex to woman, a
34:36
woman is not allowed to date chicks,
34:38
which is the same thing because
34:41
we don't have no lesbians around here, actually
34:44
do and nobody cares. But um, that's
34:46
that's what gorse. It's just saying to change
34:48
the sex and the same activity
34:51
is okay. Another Gorsets example taking
34:53
employer of fires a transgender person who has
34:55
identified as male at birth but who now identifies
34:58
as female. If the employer your retains
35:00
an otherwise identical employee who has identified
35:03
as female at birth, the employer
35:05
intentionally penalizes a person identified
35:07
as male at birth for traits
35:09
or actions that it tolerates in an employee
35:11
identified as a female at birth.
35:15
So somebody acting like a female is
35:18
fine if it's a female, but not if it's a male as
35:20
sex discrimination. But
35:22
under the Gorsete test, what is acting like a
35:24
female? You know? What I mean dressing
35:28
moody? Oh boy,
35:31
what else you want to say out there on your island?
35:36
Hey, hey, down in the whole, here's a newer,
35:38
better shovel. What
35:42
Ryan guest goes on to right is under
35:44
the Gorsete test. If changing the plane if sex would
35:46
change the outcome, sex discrimination is taking
35:49
place. Suppose a female lifeguard is fired
35:51
because she wears a swimsuit bottom but not a top.
35:54
No doubt changing the employee sex would
35:56
have yielded a different choice by the employer. Uh.
35:59
That male and female bodies differ and thus required
36:02
different swimsuits to prevent exposure doesn't
36:04
amount to discrimination unless one embraces
36:06
a simplistic theory. Uh.
36:08
And of course, nothing hinges on whether this lifeguard
36:11
currently identifies as a man or a woman.
36:14
Consider another example. Suppose a male employee
36:16
at a fitness center repeatedly goes into the women's
36:18
locker room and is fired. Now, it's
36:20
true that changing the employee sex would have yielded
36:23
a different choice is that's a quote from Gorsage,
36:25
But the negative treatment the employee faced was not sex
36:28
discrimination. Providing the employer and posed
36:30
no double standard for men and women because each are
36:32
prevented from entering the opposite sexes private
36:35
space. Um And
36:37
yet with Gorsages opinion, the Supreme Court has
36:39
embraced the theory of sex discrimination that prevents
36:41
employers and schools from keeping males out
36:44
of female only spaces, or
36:47
either that or it believes only males with
36:49
transgender status have the
36:51
privilege of entering female only spaces,
36:55
and Gorsages theory does not test for sex
36:57
discrimination. Essentially, it's
37:00
too simplistic. It doesn't it
37:03
doesn't account for This is negative.
37:05
This is a double standard. This hurts
37:08
you because it's
37:10
a double standard. It's just the existence
37:12
of the double standard alone. Is is
37:15
evidence that that it's wrong. And I'm having
37:17
to cut this short because we're out of time, but
37:20
I agree. I think this is this
37:23
is wacky and it's gonna lead to some some rough
37:25
stuff and may may probably
37:27
be overturned.
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