0:18

How to deal with masked me, among other

0:20

important things will be dealing with this hour. I'm

0:22

sorry, did you just make up a word mask me?

0:25

It's like acne, but it's a skin irritation due

0:27

to wearing your mask all the time, so

0:30

they call it mask me. I think you're

0:32

tracking mask I think you're tracking with

0:34

I don't. I don't like that. Um

0:38

As masks become, it looks

0:40

like even more more prevalent around the country.

0:43

UM More on that later. Also, a

0:46

Supreme Court opinion

0:48

has just come out on young undocumented immigrants.

0:50

I'm seeing breaking news banners around on my phone

0:53

and stuff like that. I haven't had a chance to look at what that

0:55

is. Yeah, I'm trying to go to the

0:58

places that actually know what they're taught thinking

1:00

about it, because virtually everything

1:02

you hear for the next forty minutes or

1:04

so on mainstream media will be incorrect

1:07

or badly interpreted. We will

1:09

have to dip back into the Joe

1:11

Biden came out of his spiky hole

1:13

yesterday and did a little talking

1:15

and we'll see how that went. Thank

1:19

you, Oh boy,

1:21

I'm telling you that has an

1:23

emotional effect on me. Hearing that you're hearing

1:25

a man who is near the end.

1:28

Thank you, thank you. He can barely

1:30

get his breath out. Check

1:32

him for the COVID. Oh, that reminds

1:34

me. We got a note from

1:36

a bloke in Phoenix.

1:38

Where is it there? It is, I'll just keep

1:40

him anonymous. You

1:43

had to do some flying and

1:46

uh. And he flew back and forth

1:48

um from Phoenix to Salt

1:51

Lake City, and not long

1:53

after he starts feeling sicker than he's ever felt.

1:56

And while his email is ridiculously

1:59

long al cheese three full

2:01

pages, he describes

2:04

the drama of trying to get

2:06

a COVID test and

2:09

he's he's trying to deal with his county, he's trying

2:11

to deal with the CVS that is allegedly

2:13

allegedly doing tests, and

2:16

his efforts to to just line up a test

2:18

going for hours, days and

2:20

he's getting the run around. Finally shows up

2:22

at the CVS. It's empty, there's

2:25

nobody there, but they say

2:27

you have to have an appointment. It's

2:29

like, well, can you just do me now you're didn't.

2:32

Now you've gotta make an appointment. So he tries

2:34

to make an appointment and they say and and then

2:36

he gets kicked out of the system and he

2:38

goes back and they say, yeah, the system is not working,

2:40

and it was just it was like your your

2:43

worst government healthcare nightmare. You

2:45

can't go to the doctor. I thought they were. I thought if

2:47

you had symptoms, they would like run you

2:49

to the tests. I don't think that's enough

2:51

to depend a pretty solid email. I

2:54

think he would be able to exploit the

2:56

uh, you know the opportunities

2:58

that are out there. Um,

3:01

but it sounds like a nightmare to me. Other places

3:03

you just drive up, I guess. Um.

3:07

There was an attempt in the city of Portland

3:09

to get a chairs going apparently late

3:12

last night and early this morning, and it was broken

3:14

up quickly by authorities, even

3:16

in Portland because I think they realized if

3:18

you if they if they get a toe hold,

3:21

then it's just it's a nightmare and

3:24

we don't want to deal with that, even if we

3:26

agree with some of their stuff, that'd be my guess.

3:28

Uh, you just you just don't want what Seattle is

3:31

dealing with. And so it was broken up very quickly into

3:33

Portland doesn't at least as of now, has no chairs.

3:35

Wow, but they still have a chairs Where

3:38

Chaz exists in Seattle, it is Chaz,

3:41

it's somewhat surprising that

3:43

that Portland would move so swiftly. Could

3:46

it be that they witnessed Freeattle's

3:48

descent into psychosis? And even

3:51

the way lefties who were in Portland said,

3:53

that's a bridge too far. We don't

3:56

have autonomous zones in Portland.

3:58

We have ten cities and crazy people in bums

4:01

shooting up on corners, stopping

4:03

traffic regularly, and we let them get away

4:05

with it, right right, But that that would be too much

4:08

apparently, well, okay, that's fine. I

4:10

mean, I prefer they are even less crazy

4:12

than they are because I love Portland. But um,

4:15

anyway, that's an interesting development. So

4:18

according to our friends at

4:20

Scotus blog, uh

4:23

docca oh,

4:26

the majority said The majority

4:28

of the Supreme Court said the decision to determine

4:30

to terminate DOCCA was arbitrary

4:33

and capricious because the Acting Secretary's

4:35

decision to terminate the program discussed

4:37

the legality of the benefits associated

4:39

with DOCCA, but didn't discuss forbearance

4:42

the decision to defer removal or whether there

4:44

was legitimate reliance on the DOCCA

4:46

memory blah blah blah. Legally, so this DOCCA

4:50

stands for now and what is

4:53

its current situation. It's uh, you

4:56

don't get deported if you were brought

4:58

to the country as a kid, Okay, And

5:00

that will law. And the acting Secretary

5:02

of Homeland Security, I think, had

5:05

called for the end of DOCCA and the soup said

5:07

no, and that will continue to

5:09

be the law of the day. Yeah for

5:11

now. Um.

5:15

Clarence Thomas descended he's unhappy

5:19

under the auspices of today's decision. Administrations

5:22

can bind their successors by unlawfully

5:25

adopting significant legal changes through

5:27

executive branch agency memoranda.

5:30

Oh listen to him. Bring it. This

5:33

is a little more pithy. Today's decision

5:36

must be recognized for what it is, an effort

5:38

to avoid a politically controversial but

5:40

legally correct decision. That's

5:43

old, Clarence Thomas. Interesting the

5:48

number out today, This happens every Thursday.

5:50

One point five million workers claimed

5:52

jobless benefits last week, marking eleventh

5:55

straight week of declines, which is

5:57

a positive spin and

5:59

and it is true, but it's still

6:01

an extraordinary number. Um.

6:05

Yeah, that's new, claims the

6:09

feel or at least you know in my

6:11

part of the world. And from what I read, is that okay,

6:14

we're opening back up. The economy is going

6:16

again. Um, you

6:18

know, we're we're figuring out the social distancing

6:20

and masks and the rest of it. We're trying to do it smart. But

6:23

we're absolutely now moving forward.

6:25

The idea that one point five million

6:27

new people filed that's

6:30

rough man, that's businesses that just ran out

6:32

of gas. How probably, the

6:34

Fed Reserve chairman Jerome Powell said

6:37

today he's already said that the worst of the economic

6:39

crisis caused by the coronavirus could nearly

6:42

be over as businesses are reopening

6:44

across the country. We may be reaching a bottom

6:46

on that that now. So

6:48

we're at the bottom right now.

6:52

I hope he's right along

6:55

the bottom lasts. I don't know, Yeah,

6:57

yeah, that's that's the question. The

7:01

V shape recovery versus the U shaped

7:03

jack or the feared hockey stick, or it just goes

7:05

straight for a long time at a low

7:07

level. We don't know. We'll have to

7:09

find out. Can can I hear our Joe Biden clip

7:12

again? Wake Up? Obviously

7:17

hands that wake up needs

7:19

to be a regular part of the intro to the show.

7:21

I used to get in there. Wake Up, wake

7:23

Up, wake Up is

7:26

that. I'm sorry. I'm trying to understand. The scenario

7:28

was that one man who didn't

7:31

quite succumb to carbon monoxide

7:33

poisoning urging another

7:35

man who has to wake up? Is

7:37

that the first guy near death apparently

7:40

wake up. That's

7:43

a gentleman who has found asleep in his car in

7:45

the garage, right exactly. Yeah,

7:48

he hed falling asleep after starting his

7:50

car, and he's at the risk of death. And

7:53

I'm telling you, I'm having a gut caveman reaction

7:56

to that. I hear a man near death, I'm

7:59

serious, and

8:01

what I want to make sure I got his final wishes.

8:03

What I'd really like to know is was

8:07

there a decision made like you talked about

8:09

tow like really low key at things are frantic

8:11

Pole Show people are being exhausted by the

8:14

new cycle. I am. I just talking about it with my wife last

8:16

night. Yes, I said, I just can't handle this anymore.

8:18

The new cycle is killing me. She said, I don't even look

8:20

anymore. I know. It's just your

8:22

your brain reaches a point where you just can't take

8:24

any more stimulus, and it's it's a protective

8:27

mechanism um to to

8:29

ignore it and shut it down if it's not like a bear

8:32

trying to eat one of my children. Right now, I

8:34

have to block it out. I

8:36

want to can you do of a sabbatical in the the

8:38

entertainment business where you just go away for six

8:40

months? How about folks, listen, we'll be back

8:42

in late October. We're just gonna

8:45

take a couple of months off. But so so

8:47

we don't go psychotic. But my question is,

8:49

did they coach Biden on that and say extra

8:52

low key yes, or did he just come

8:54

out and that's just what he sounded like yesterday.

8:57

Well they give him a pep talk and say

8:59

high energy, and he came out like this, thank

9:02

you. I tell you what. It is

9:04

clear his strategy is to be old,

9:07

calming, Joe, old bipartisan,

9:09

middle of the road Gio all this craziness

9:12

Donald Trump place, come on, everybody,

9:14

return to normal times. Remember the sixties.

9:16

Those were a good time, right? Maybe not? Maybe that's a

9:18

bad example. It was the sixties when I got elected

9:20

to the Senate for the first time. Because I'm a hundred

9:23

anyway, it's it's clearly

9:25

a strategy. But I don't know whether

9:27

he just went a little too far there, or

9:29

if he's actually got to one foot

9:31

in the grave. He sounds like he's

9:34

dying, you know, a tangent um.

9:36

I've heard a couple of people point this out recently, and it's absolutely

9:39

true, and I think it's worth keeping in mind when we have all these

9:41

discussions when people refer to the sixties,

9:43

what they really mean is like sixties

9:45

seven through seventy three. That's

9:48

people mean when they refer to the sixties. I think you're

9:50

right. The bulk of the sixties, sixty through

9:52

sixty seven, we're quite placid um

9:55

and like old tiny America

9:59

here summer a of nineteen sixty seven

10:01

thing was mostly amusing. It's

10:03

really like sixties seven through the early

10:05

seventies is what people mean by the

10:08

turbulent, chaotic hippie music, drugs,

10:10

craziness, right bombing sixties.

10:13

Yeah, yep, agreed um. But

10:15

I thought another thing on the interview with Robert

10:17

Gates yesterday, former SEC deaf, former

10:20

CIA chief worked under geez what seven

10:22

different presidents or something like that, old

10:24

guy being around a long time, and asked,

10:26

is this as crazy as has ever been? And he said, yeah,

10:28

absolutely, So it's not just you

10:30

know, in the imagination of the young, No wonder

10:32

I'm so exhausted. Yeah, it's as crazy

10:34

as it's been in a very very long time.

10:37

Um. I found this kind of

10:39

calming. A Fortune survey of CEOs

10:43

and some of their attitudes right now

10:45

about changing their companies for racial

10:47

stuff or the economy in different things I

10:49

found quite interesting. Among

10:51

other things we could get to, we

10:53

also had a number of people weighing in about their

10:55

wives or husbands in the way they react when they're

10:58

doing the uh, the non driving portion

11:00

of going somewhere, the backseat driver. Oh

11:02

no, myrtle strife. I hate to

11:04

hear that. Our text line is four one

11:07

to nine five k f TC art

11:10

Strong and the

11:22

Armstrong and Getty Show.

11:31

I suppose at some point out to mention the Bolton

11:33

book, that is, is it's Outer or not Outer?

11:36

Well, it's not out officially, but all

11:38

sorts of copies have been. It doesn't

11:40

matter. Nobody reads these books. People dig

11:42

through to get the juicy chunks the back of their narrative,

11:44

and everybody talks about them like crazy

11:47

for two days, for for a day and a

11:49

half, and then nobody reads a minute. It goes away.

11:51

That's what happens book after book after book, yeah,

11:53

so yeah, we'll talk about that maybe

11:56

next segment. Okay, there's some interesting stuff

11:58

in there. And and the fact, well what's most

12:01

notable to me is that everybody on all sides

12:03

is kicking John Bolton for being a weasel. Um.

12:06

But anyway, more of that to come quick aside,

12:08

The left is so good at at

12:11

imposing um,

12:14

how we talk about things. Uh,

12:16

they're way better than the right. And it's bothered

12:19

me for a long time. For

12:21

instance, I'm in the the lunch room

12:23

getting some caffeine juice and Fox News

12:26

is reporting on the docket decision

12:28

that just came down, and they refer to

12:30

the docket recipients as dreamers,

12:35

dreamers get to stay or whatever. That

12:37

That is a term, that's a pr

12:40

spin term invented by

12:42

the left to make all

12:44

of this could be against a dreamer of

12:46

this brilliant. By the way, we suggested

12:48

calling doctor recipients precious fairy dust

12:50

angels. I mean, that's only

12:52

slightly more ridiculous than dreamers.

12:55

Fox News has adopted that in that verbiage,

12:58

that nomenclature. That is a win

13:00

if you're that belief. Yep,

13:04

Michael mentioned his fiancee, uh,

13:07

making noises while he was driving, and he was afraid something

13:09

horrible had happened. We got this text my wife

13:11

taught me. Gasping and grasping

13:14

the dash with both hands without

13:16

explanation, unnerves every driver, including

13:18

this great one. So

13:21

she's a gasp and grasp the dash with both

13:23

hands. My wife does that fairly regularly. My wife

13:25

has done that too. I have urged her repeatedly. Sweetheart,

13:27

if we are in danger, the last thing in the world you want

13:29

to do is lean forward, all right, let

13:31

your let your belt keep you in place. Oh

13:34

and not danger, by the way. Uh

13:39

oh, my gosh. And then you look around everything

13:41

like that, and somebody spilled an ice cream car ice

13:43

cream cone. I've had that experience anytime we're

13:46

about to be hit by a track. Oh no, somebody spilled

13:48

something in the backseat. Yeah, we need we need different

13:50

sound effects for these things. Exactly

13:54

internal issue, not external threat. Um

13:57

Fortune Survey

13:59

of eos planned policy changes in

14:01

response to the current calls for racial justice.

14:04

This is a survey of CEOs around the country

14:06

on a number of topics, but six

14:09

policy changes. Due to the social unrest.

14:12

There's hardly a website. I've been to whether

14:14

it's genes or music

14:17

or whatever, where they don't have some sort of hashtag

14:19

we're with the protests or lots

14:22

of we support Black Lives Matter, which

14:24

shocks me because if you go to Black Lives Matter

14:26

website, there's all kinds of stuff on there that

14:28

the majority of the country absolutely does not

14:30

support UM. So it's

14:32

interesting to me that mainstream outlets

14:34

are so free with their support

14:36

of of that. Well, I think just to stay

14:39

out of trouble. Every stovetop stuffing

14:41

and running shoe and gene and guitar string

14:43

is just making it clear we're down with it. Are

14:45

there are people that actually look

14:48

for that and won't do business with a corporation

14:50

that hasn't posted something like because I don't even think

14:52

of it. If I need to buy something, that's all that's

14:55

privilege. Maybe it is the numbers

14:59

in white gene, is that any wears them tight.

15:02

That percentage goes up as the age goes down. The

15:04

younger the consumer, the more likely they

15:06

already care about they're looking on the website

15:08

to see if they've made a stand. They have

15:11

really internalized the voting with

15:13

your dollar mantra of a lot of things

15:15

that's why you see the targeting

15:17

of advertisers. They're they're aware of the financial

15:20

power of collective.

15:22

But that's interesting. That's a change, you know, and maybe

15:24

I have Is it for the better? Where I I never

15:27

have an I doubt that I'm going to change At this point in my life.

15:29

I don't think about the politics of the

15:31

company's I do business with. I just it never crosses

15:33

my mind. But the next generation it might be very

15:35

important to them. Uh of

15:38

ceo say revenues have already recovered

15:40

or never dropped. Well, this is Fortune magazine,

15:43

so they're trying to have a positive spin, right, Um,

15:46

thirty percent of ceo say revenues

15:49

have recovered were never dropped. Well, that's only that

15:52

leaves out an awful lot of companies

15:54

said they didn't drop them, have not recovered

15:56

it. Some say won't recover in the foreseeable

15:59

future only four per cent, but almost

16:01

half expect the recovery to recur

16:03

between January twenty one

16:05

in June, so

16:08

they put the bad news at the bottom. But almost half

16:10

of the cd CEOs think the recovery won't occur

16:13

for like a year and a half. Not

16:17

good, No, No, I

16:20

thought this was interesting seventies seven percent

16:22

of ceo say their company's digital transformation

16:25

was significantly accelerated during

16:27

the economic crisis. That

16:30

rings so true. Sure, so you were headed

16:32

toward this with computers

16:34

and skyping and all this sort of stuff, and then all of a sudden,

16:37

the highest priority get this going

16:39

right now. Well and listen, there's

16:41

there's a lot of inertia,

16:43

or call it momentum if you want, in businessmum

16:46

momentum. That's right, the president, I'm playing

16:48

in a golf tournament this weekend. That's our team slogan.

16:51

Momentum. But you gotta shout

16:53

it or write it in all caps like the president

16:55

is. But there's a certain amount of momentum

16:58

in business. Things exist just because

17:00

they have existed. They're going to do tomorrow

17:02

what they did yesterday just because they did it yesterday.

17:05

And with lots of people either furloughed

17:09

or or at home, is a little less significant.

17:11

But a lot of businesses are finding out.

17:13

You know, it was a little better with

17:15

the furloughed people here, but not that

17:17

much better. I think we just won't bring

17:19

them back. You're gonna see sustained

17:22

unemployment for that reason for a long time, and

17:24

you could argue that it's making businesses

17:27

lean or mean or more effective in

17:29

some cases. Um, but yeah,

17:31

I think that's really going to delay the bounce

17:33

back because they had to find

17:35

out just how important all of us were and

17:37

some of us not so much. I'm

17:40

talking about us.

18:06

You guys need a cool off, because this is

18:08

not the time. We

18:10

can't handle a world war right now. We're

18:12

already dealing with so many things. Coronavirus,

18:15

economies are tanking, global protests

18:17

are happening, and at any minute more

18:19

Hollywood actors could release one of those black and white

18:21

videos. Nah. Um,

18:25

yeah, that's right, I've got one of those. That's just terrible.

18:28

We need to play later, one of those I'm a

18:30

celebrity, you should take me seriously

18:33

videos. Apparently word

18:35

has not penetrated their thick, thick

18:38

film of self importance that nobody

18:41

wants that China

18:43

versus India, it seems calmish for

18:45

right now. I hope the

18:47

third and fourth biggest military in the world squaring

18:50

off killing each other over the weekend. Well, this common

18:52

time is when they put more nails in the bats. Yeah,

18:54

apparently heard up for the next battle. Well

18:57

yeah, I heard it. Described by a pretty sober

18:59

commentator as a gang war, that

19:01

they're just they they patrol, they

19:04

see each other occasionally, they you know,

19:06

maybe shout stuff at each other, and they hate

19:08

each other just because they're on the other side. And

19:11

these guys just they interrupted

19:13

into fists and sticks and whatever, and

19:15

they beat the hell out of each other. And I was listening

19:17

to in the Chinese side one. I don't know if the

19:19

Indians were out numbered or just aren't

19:21

good enough fight or what. I hadn't meant

19:23

to talk about this, but I was listening to a podcast

19:26

yesterday with one of what I'm told

19:28

the best Chinese experts in

19:30

in America aren't think tanks constantly

19:33

in communication with with the Chinese. Uh,

19:35

you know, military, etcetera,

19:37

etcetera, and uh. And this woman

19:39

said, they are going to move

19:42

on Taiwan. It's just a matter of when

19:44

she is gonna move on Taiwan. And she said she's

19:46

talked to people in the Chinese military

19:49

who have said, what's America gonna

19:51

do? They can't stop us at this point. Their

19:54

belief is we don't have the will

19:57

or the ability to stop

19:59

them from do doing that. They don't think we've

20:01

got the military might to stop them from doing

20:03

something like that, honestly on both counts.

20:06

And she said, whether they're right or

20:08

wrong, it's a big dilemma

20:10

because they could be wrong, but that means they're still

20:12

going to do it and uh right,

20:15

and it'd be a heck of a thing to find out, you know,

20:17

who's right. One of our emailers referred to

20:19

a president she is Winnie the Poo's stunt

20:21

double stunt

20:24

double uh, which I thought was very

20:26

funny. Um. Yeah, the idea, well, in

20:28

terms of could we stop them,

20:30

I say no, because,

20:32

with all due respect to the might of the American Navy,

20:34

it's like, um, if if I

20:36

don't know, uh, Staten

20:39

Island were a rebel

20:42

territory of the United States,

20:46

I mean we could we could decide all right, let's

20:48

take it all right now, and ten minutes

20:50

later we'd be overrunning it. And

20:53

if some other country was unhappy about it, well

20:55

they wouldn't be able to get there in time. It'd

20:57

be fatal complete. Then you'd have to like invade

20:59

it get it back, and there's no way

21:01

we have the will to do that. You know, this fits in a little

21:04

bit. We're we would just sanction

21:07

uh, the Beijing out of them for

21:09

the next ten years or whatever. That could be our

21:11

only response if I'm gonna be honest about

21:13

it, boy, And then what does that look like? The crazy

21:16

cyber warfare? And what does that say to the world?

21:18

What does that look like in the world stage? That is an announcement

21:20

that, Okay, there are two coequal

21:23

militaries out there. Isn't that just a statement

21:26

of that? No, I

21:28

don't think so, just because of the

21:30

geographic reality of it. If you ever look at

21:32

a map, I mean, China is this enormous country and

21:34

then you squint your eyes and you see Taiwan

21:36

is this little island that's right next to I mean, right

21:39

there, and they go, but

21:41

just gobble it up? Now? Will we let them

21:43

fully militarize the South China? See? No way,

21:45

They've wanted Taiwan for seventy

21:48

five years. It's always been a tiny speck right

21:50

off of China. They didn't take it before

21:52

because they didn't think they could. According to this

21:55

person's interviews with military people, they

21:57

can now. So that's a that's

21:59

a change in uh in situation

22:01

um. And it kind of fits in with the Bolton book. We're gonna

22:03

talk about little bit the Wall Street Journal. Of course, they

22:06

picked out part of the Bolton book where

22:08

he said, oh, some things that were somewhat flattering

22:11

the President Trump. Don't want those to sneak into the

22:13

media. But on how

22:15

you know, he's happy that Trump recognizes

22:18

the situation with China um

22:20

and Bolton is way more you know, hawk

22:22

ish that direction, and he talks about

22:24

past presidents and that sort of stuff, But he

22:26

was, he was on how we everybody

22:29

understands this now. Secretary

22:32

Gates talked about it yesterday in an interview. The

22:34

world made a bet that if we let

22:36

China run run free

22:39

their econot with their economics, screwing

22:41

everybody around the world, at least as their economy

22:44

grows, they'll become nicer and all that sort of

22:46

stuff didn't work. Bad idea

22:48

it's over didn't help at all. All they did was

22:50

build a very frightening military with

22:52

a very frightening attitude. But this expert,

22:55

this expert, she said, the

22:58

idea that they would uh that they that the

23:00

middle class would take over and they'd open up and they'd

23:02

get calmer, was was wrong. She said. What

23:04

was also wrong, and in retrospect really

23:06

wrong. Is this idea that you can tell somebody,

23:09

we're going to allow you to be number

23:11

two as long as you want,

23:13

you can be a good, solid number

23:16

two. That's what we're doing. Doesn't that make you feel

23:18

good. Nobody feels good being

23:20

told we're going to allow

23:23

you to be second best. Nobody

23:25

actually wants to be vice president. I hadn't

23:27

take that deal in a second. I had

23:30

never thought of it that way before, But that was

23:32

what what the United States was saying to China.

23:35

We're absolutely in favor of you becoming

23:37

number two, the second best economy

23:39

and the second best of this, and the second best that. And

23:41

then they thought, when we're not interested in big number

23:44

two, we want to be number one. So yeah,

23:46

I suppose maybe, you know, I'm not sure I buy

23:48

that argument, because there are plenty of countries that seem

23:51

fine with being number seventeen. But maybe

23:53

if you're number two, you smell number one

23:55

and sure, and you want to be it. But

23:57

what's interesting is China's wealth enabled it to

23:59

double down on its aggressive

24:02

totalitarian impulses. It was the opposite

24:04

of what all of us hoped would happen.

24:07

You know, back in the great opening of China, Uh

24:09

dialogue, um or you know

24:12

the narrative. So the Bolton's book

24:14

is coming out any day, although the Justice Department

24:16

is suing. I'm saying he violated his nondisclosure

24:19

agreements in the rest of it, but so much of it is

24:22

leaked out it's it's become a moot point anyway.

24:24

Uh. So you know, a couple of things bother me

24:26

about the coverage. Number One, Bolton thinks

24:28

Trump isn't good at foreign policy and doesn't

24:31

know enough about it. Okay, if if you

24:33

either agree or you don't agree, or you think,

24:35

well, he's still better in the alternative, that's fine.

24:37

What bothers me about the coverage of it is

24:39

that it's it's like a game of telephone it.

24:42

The things that the book actually says are getting

24:45

characterized and recharacterized um

24:47

in the media. For instance, UM.

24:50

One passage that's just getting flogged is

24:53

uh. Bolton writes that Trump was quote

24:55

pleading with she to ensure he'd win

24:58

the reelection. But

25:00

Bolton said he could not print the president's exact

25:03

words because of the government's prepublication

25:05

review process. So pleading

25:07

with she to ensure he'd win what do you

25:09

actually say. I

25:12

mean, if if he said, you

25:14

know, it would really help our farmers, that

25:16

would help me politically. I could get reelected.

25:18

We could keep going down that path. I

25:20

don't find that a particularly obnoxious

25:23

or or wrong. Bolton

25:25

says Trump was was obsessed with getting re

25:27

elected to the exclusion of, like

25:29

America's good, what

25:32

would really serve America? I don't know that's

25:34

Bolton's opinion. That would be in the ivy beholder

25:36

on an instant by instant basis. But you remember

25:38

the famous Obama video of I'll have more

25:41

freedom after the election. He was

25:43

not doing something that would hurt

25:45

his re election chances and tell him

25:47

the leader of Russia, that I'll do I can

25:49

do it after the election, but I can't do it now because it would

25:51

hurt my chance of getting reelected. Lots

25:54

of presidents have done that. That's

25:56

a very common thing to do, might

25:58

be unfortunate, might be an stream. You

26:00

might cross a line where it's extreme, But

26:02

I don't know. I'd have to know the instance by instance,

26:05

right decision right um.

26:07

And the other one that that bothered me is

26:10

that in the book, Bolton

26:13

says he's

26:17

asked, what did

26:19

Putin think of Trump, and

26:22

Bolton says, I

26:24

think Putin thought he could play Trump

26:26

like a fiddle, which

26:28

evolved on NBC News and NPR

26:31

This Morning to Bolton

26:34

thought Putin could play Trump like a

26:36

fiddle. When Bolton was

26:38

describing what he thought, Putin thought,

26:40

and Putin thought he could play Obama like a fiddle. And he thought

26:42

he could play George W. Bush like a fiddle. He's a

26:44

pretty good fiddler too, by the way,

26:47

Putin, I'll put a fiddle of gold against

26:49

your soul. If you think you're better than me, I don't.

26:51

I'm pretty bad. Um. Here's

26:54

the part that I hate and why I don't really want to discuss

26:56

this. Yeah, wouldn't

26:59

that be incredibly heavy? Even think you'd

27:01

be resonant at all? Can we just do like a

27:03

cash bed? I

27:06

mean, if if I'm getting into some if I'm like,

27:09

come up again, some golf hustler he thinks he can

27:11

beat me, I'm not gonna play for solid gold

27:13

golf clubs. They'd be heavy. Here's

27:15

what I hate about all these books, though, and I hate

27:18

slippery when you're sweating. I hate discussing

27:20

these books. I hate all these books, and not just the

27:22

political ones, because there's been lots of them, people

27:25

who only do the right thing when

27:27

they're going to profit from it. And it happens

27:29

all the freaking time, whether

27:32

you were on the bicycling team

27:34

with Lance Armstrong or

27:38

or your FBI director Ray

27:40

and uh you remember

27:43

he said in the sixty Minutes interview they were considering

27:46

invoking the amendment or whatever that

27:48

is to remove the president because he's crazy,

27:50

which wasn't even in the book, but

27:52

you said it on television to sell the

27:55

book. So and and then Bolton

27:57

saying the impeachment inquiry missed other

27:59

troubling episod then show

28:01

up to the impeachment inquiry and

28:03

tell the people trying to impeach the

28:05

president what happened. You

28:07

think these things are so damaging, you think the guy

28:09

is so unqualified, you had

28:12

the opportunity to play a role

28:14

in removing him, then do it,

28:16

you freaking weasel. These people

28:19

are such low lives.

28:21

Yeah, well, even if you want

28:23

to make all the arguments that what he says is true, fine,

28:25

go ahead, I don't care. But he is

28:28

a weasel of the most weaseling character.

28:31

He's saying, the most powerful man in the world

28:33

is not fit for the office. It's

28:35

obvious you had a chance to play a role in

28:37

removing him and you didn't. Why

28:40

because you're gonna make more money if

28:42

you waited and put it in a book that is

28:44

so that is so unpatriotic.

28:47

You shouldn't be held up as anything but a

28:49

disgrace. That's embarrassing.

28:51

It is fairly amusing the way the Democrats

28:53

are holding their nose while they tout

28:56

the book and what he says, because they are so

28:58

angry at him for holding

29:00

off, holding back until his book was

29:02

out, because they wanted him to testify

29:05

at the ridiculously

29:07

rushed and show body impeachment

29:09

thing, and he just no, not I'm

29:12

busy that day. He just wouldn't cooperate in any

29:14

way, wouldn't test it. We didn't say a word. Comy

29:16

did the same thing lots and have done the same thing. If

29:19

you have something so Tyllerson did the same thing

29:21

as Secretarist State, you have something so

29:23

damaging that's going on behind the scenes,

29:25

then you you call the Washington Post,

29:28

or you get a bunch of microphones around you and you say

29:30

it out loud, You resign in protest, or

29:32

something be a freaking patriot if

29:34

that's what you actually believe, or did

29:36

you not think it was that big a deal and you've ooked

29:38

it up a little bit to sell a book now that

29:42

one, Well, what's the

29:45

disconnect is the portrayals

29:48

are so dramatic in the books and so

29:50

black and white and so horrifying. If

29:53

they were that way, you would

29:56

have said something or done something if

29:58

you're a real patriot as a those to

30:00

a you know, would be a star author.

30:03

And so either these people are

30:05

morally reprehensible, as you were suggesting,

30:08

or the stuff in a book is jazzed up and made

30:10

extra exciting and at the time you

30:12

were thinking, I don't think this is a good decision,

30:15

but he's the president. We'll see how it goes. Man,

30:17

if it's true, you gotta you gotta resign and

30:19

go to a microphone and tell people. I

30:22

just I don't. I don't get that. You

30:24

know, I suppose if a well, I think

30:26

you do get it. I think you've explained it quite nicely.

30:29

You can't relate to it. It's not more

30:31

complicated than that. No, No, I don't

30:34

think it is at all. Book publisher calls you and says,

30:36

you know, if you laid this out in book for him, and we had a real

30:38

big build up to it, and we time it right. You can

30:40

make six million dollars. Oh boy. I'm working

30:42

on my Jack Armstrongs Are Rotten

30:44

Human Being book right now. I'm gonna get

30:46

my first draft started. Uh

30:49

Taco Bell employee fired over Black

30:51

Lives Matter mask. I

30:54

think this is wearing it or not wearing it

30:56

or employee employee war. It

30:59

got fired because it goes goes against

31:01

her policy. But the manager who

31:03

intervened is in big trouble and

31:06

political trouble. And so the

31:08

reason I think this is a story is because every

31:10

company in America could be dealing with this situation

31:13

which day or next week. Why they're frantically

31:16

virtue signal. A little more on that coming up the

31:32

Armstrong and Getting Show. Some

31:38

of our favorite syrups are under the gun. I

31:43

hadn't. I don't believe I'd ever

31:45

thought for a second about and Jemima and

31:48

it going away is fine with me. I don't care.

31:50

I just I've I've I've had

31:52

Jemima serp in my whole life, but I'd never put any

31:54

thought into any of it. Name your corn

31:57

syrup, something else that's fine. Um,

31:59

but if it has racist origins or whatever,

32:01

you get rid of it or whatever. But so um.

32:04

Then I heard Mr Mrs

32:07

Mrs Butterworth's is under pressure now

32:09

and Canagara Brands this is,

32:11

according to Chicago Business is

32:14

reviewing Mrs Butterworth's imagery.

32:18

And I thought, what's Mrs Buttersworth?

32:20

I mean I could picture Aunt Jemima and

32:22

I thought, okay, I guess that is that racist

32:25

or Rachel Ruter word's a black woman on there. I don't even

32:27

know what it is. I've never thought about it. I don't think

32:29

about these things. Maybe some of you do. Well,

32:31

here's what it says in the in the Business

32:33

report about this. Uh.

32:36

ConAgra Brands announced the review of

32:39

its Mrs Butterworth's brand hours

32:41

after rival syrup and pancake mixed

32:43

brand Aunt Jemima said it was removing

32:45

the imagery of a black woman from its packaging.

32:48

Mrs Butterworth's origin and race have never

32:50

been specified by the brand, but

32:53

the dark coloring of the of the syrup in

32:55

the clear bottle gives many people the

32:57

idea she is meant to represent a black

32:59

woman, as clearly syrup

33:02

blackish dark is kind

33:04

of yes, obviously, because

33:06

it's a clear bottle and syrup is the color it

33:08

is, there's an assumption

33:11

that it might be a black woman. And if

33:13

it were a black woman, why can't

33:15

it be a black woman? I feel like some of this, like

33:17

I said yesterday, I feel like if you introduced ant

33:19

Jemima today, you could

33:21

spin it as or what we're saying

33:24

is, you know, black moms

33:26

had great recipes back in the day too,

33:29

right. It's it's not affirmative action,

33:32

but it's I feel like if Mrs Butterworth

33:34

was obviously white, there'll be pressure

33:36

for only white moms can have great

33:39

syrup because there's there's no claim

33:41

of Mrs Butterworth venus slave or

33:43

anything. Man, I don't claim of it being anything.

33:45

I've eaten in a couple of black

33:48

run diners in d C. That is the

33:50

best food I've ever had in my life, So yeah, I would

33:52

think, yeah, heck yeah, is that what they're going for?

33:54

I don't know what you know, Jack, have always assumed

33:56

that the honey bear, which

33:59

is you know, the honey container that she squeeze the honey

34:01

out of, that's bear shaped. I've always assumed it was

34:03

a grizzly because it was roughly honeycoat.

34:05

No, I haven't assumed anything. I used

34:08

to do a hilarious bit for my kids with the honey bear.

34:10

Though, yeah, I

34:13

wish I had a video of it. It's like that movie

34:16

with which movie is that with

34:18

the talking bear ted O? No,

34:23

like The Revenant where Leo fought a bear?

34:27

No, No, not really. I would the honey

34:30

bear. It's important that some of the honey was missing from

34:32

it, and uh and I would have the honey bear walking

34:34

and talking on the table and doing a character voice

34:36

and all, and then I'd say, then I'd

34:39

have the honey bear whirl on one of my kids. You're

34:41

looking at me? Are you looking at me?

34:43

That makes me so mad? And then I'd squeeze

34:46

it in. The honey would rise up and cover

34:48

his face like he was turning wreck

34:50

with anger. Great looking at me cracked

34:54

him up. Honey bear bit. Mrs

34:57

Butterworth Syrup was introduced in ninete.

35:00

The syrup comes in a bottle shaped like a woman. The

35:02

character talks and seemingly a

35:06

woman shaped like that needs

35:08

to get to the gym shaped

35:11

like a woman. Wow, now body

35:13

shape not know? Plenty of women are not shaped

35:16

like that bottle piling on the racism with body

35:18

shape. Not wake

35:20

up, thank you, that's

35:23

Joe Biden there, folks. Um

35:27

Mrs Butterworth claims that they're just trying to

35:29

evoke the images of a loving grandmother. We stand

35:32

and that we stand in solidarity with black and brown

35:34

communities. The fact

35:36

that they feel the need to even respond

35:38

to this. It's not even a it's not a

35:40

person who. It doesn't have a color, it's not in anything. Right.

35:44

Might somebody think we might have thought

35:47

maybe back in the day, is the color

35:49

of syrup a right? So I'm trying

35:51

to decide. Uh.

35:53

One of our beloved listeners turned us on too

35:55

well the email this mail bag and I'm strong in

35:57

getty dot com to a

36:00

Tracy Morgan bit on Saturday Night

36:02

Live a number of years ago,

36:04

Uncle Jemima's pure mesh liquor.

36:08

I haven't, but it's funny. I just

36:10

I just watched it, and

36:13

it is indeed funny. What

36:15

year think, double

36:18

lot? I think the

36:20

year two thousand and it's still on YouTube

36:22

and and Saturday Night Live controls all

36:24

your SNL clips on your day. They only

36:27

allow them on there if they want them on their right. Um

36:29

and it it seems partly to

36:31

be mocking the like Disney

36:34

Song of the South, image of black

36:36

folk in the South, but

36:39

it's also rather a hard

36:41

edged like,

36:46

well, how do I how do I put this without

36:48

ending my career? It's rather

36:50

critical of old black drunks

36:53

too, in that Tracy

36:55

Morgan way. Um and it's it's

36:57

quite funny, but I don't know if we do

36:59

it our helves any good. Maybe

37:02

google it, Uncle Jemima, I'm sorry bing it.

37:04

Google is evil. Uncle Jemima's

37:06

pure mash liquor. So we'll

37:08

get to Joe Biden came out of his spidy

37:11

hole yesterday and gave a little speech and some people

37:13

think he sounded a little low energy. Will let you decide.

37:16

And uh, the taco bell thing. We have audio

37:19

from the manager dealing with the employee with

37:21

the mask. Is that what that is? Sean? And

37:24

boy, you might be dealing with this at your workplace. Armstrong

37:29

and Getty