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A&G On Demand Wednesday June 17 Hour 3

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Thursday, 18th June 2020
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0:21

According to a new study from the c d C, most

0:24

people are not using hand sanitizer

0:26

correctly. They say, you're supposed

0:28

to rub your hands with sanitizer for thirty

0:31

seconds, which is even longer than when you watch

0:33

your hands it's twenty seconds. The study

0:35

was published in the Journal of Information.

0:38

It would have been nice to have three months ago. Yeah,

0:44

yeah, I am not doing

0:46

that. I didn't know that I am not doing it. To wait

0:48

a minute, if your hands are soaked with it,

0:50

what does it matter if you're rubbing or not, or

0:53

you see, you never know with these idiotic

0:55

government pronouncements from the Journal

0:58

of that would have been nice to note three

1:00

months ago. It's a pretty

1:02

funny joke. I use hand sanitizer

1:04

so much. I keep a bottle

1:06

in my in my truck and I have just constantly

1:09

using it. But I haven't been even

1:11

close to rubbing for thirty seconds with it. I

1:14

put a little in there and I rub it until it's gone, or

1:17

you walk around with it kind of wet with your hands up

1:19

in the air like a surgeon ntil it dries off. I mean,

1:21

how much are you supposed to use? Doesn't that

1:23

dictate how long you'll rob don't

1:26

know. I mean, all right, here, here you go.

1:28

Here's an illustration. This is what makes

1:30

me insane. All right, Look, I just took

1:33

a little squirt. I got one right in front of me. It's roughly

1:35

the size of a p Okay,

1:37

there you're going. I'm gonna rob and rub

1:40

and rub till my hands are raw with my little

1:42

peace sized compliment of

1:44

hand sanitizer, which isn't nearly

1:47

enough to cover both of my enormous manly

1:49

hands harry

1:52

gnarled knuckles. The rest of it can hit a

1:54

golf ball two in thirty yards exactly. Or

1:57

I can take a squirt

2:00

like somebody spilled an orange juice

2:02

glass and robert for ten

2:04

seconds and then walk around with it dripping down

2:06

my wrists? Which one was better? Oh,

2:09

for the love of logic, I

2:12

can't take the buttered world anymore. I can't take

2:14

it. There's that girl trying

2:17

to rescue that squirrel. That

2:19

video may be shown for the rest of our lives.

2:22

Her to help you, let

2:25

me rescue you, And then it jumps

2:27

on her and she shrieks

2:30

like a lunatic. Of course, so would

2:32

I. You got a wild beast

2:34

leaping upon your chest, I don't think I've

2:36

shown I don't think I've shown my wife the picture

2:38

of the squirrel on Henry at the Grand

2:41

Canyon. Oh you got

2:43

She's gonna be so unhappy with that. Well,

2:45

he might get Rocky Mountain squirrel fever. Why

2:48

did you let a squirrel crawl on him?

2:51

I don't know what was I gonna do? Shoot it? I assumed

2:54

it would run away. Kids are always trying

2:56

to catch squirrels. They don't catch the rights.

2:58

But he did catch this one right. Maybe

3:01

it wanted to be caught apparently. Yeah,

3:05

So Center Republicans unveiled

3:07

a policing reform bill, the President

3:09

signed an executive order, Congress has

3:11

a plan, and

3:14

uh and and it's now

3:17

we're gonna have a long negotiating period

3:20

where various ideas are going to be bandied about,

3:22

and they'll try to arrive at a at

3:25

a compromise. Although I have at

3:27

least half a suspicion that

3:30

the Democrats would much rather have the

3:32

issue in November

3:34

than a solution. A

3:37

compromised plan that would make the

3:39

Trump administration and Senate

3:41

and House Republicans look good could

3:44

be you know, really

3:46

weakening for the Democrats come November

3:49

so I would I would set your sights

3:51

toward loud negotiating

3:54

in no solution and that the Democrats

3:56

will toss up things they know the

3:58

Republicans can never vote for. To

4:01

keep this in the news, but at any rate,

4:03

Center Republicans unveiled the Police Form bill

4:05

that would discourage, but not ban,

4:08

the so called chokeholes

4:10

and no knock warrants. I

4:13

don't I don't mind the chokehole decision,

4:15

and people who know more about it, you know, can decide

4:17

what's right. But that was it not a chokehold,

4:21

old the murdery what's his name and man's

4:24

neck? Yeah, that was that was not approved anything

4:26

right. That was horrific. The Republican

4:28

proposal, which Senate leader said would be considered

4:30

on the floor next week, does not mandate

4:34

certain policing practices the Democratic

4:36

plan does. The federal government will mandate your

4:38

local police force does A,

4:40

B and C. The Republican plan encourages

4:43

thousands of local police law enforcement agencies

4:45

to curtail practices such as chokeholds

4:47

and certain no knock warrants by withholding

4:50

federal funds to departments that don't

4:53

uh, you know, adhere to

4:55

their will. Um

4:57

and they must submit reports

4:59

about them. The gislation also requires local law

5:01

enforcement agencies to report all

5:03

officer involved deaths to the FBI.

5:07

Tim Scott, Republicans, South Carolina,

5:09

the black Republican senator, is spearing

5:12

the spearheading the GOP bill. Um.

5:16

I saw some courages the broader use of body worn

5:18

cameras as well. I don't know if it was this. I

5:20

saw something somewhere where you

5:22

you have to report within a certain amount

5:24

of time whenever you fire your weapon,

5:26

and I thought that's not already the

5:28

case, not to the federal government. The

5:31

federal government has brutally incomplete

5:34

statistics on all of that. It's just it's

5:36

a local matter. If there's a big enough

5:39

noise, it goes to your county, then maybe to your state. Um.

5:43

You know, it's so hard for

5:45

me to advocate nationalized

5:48

uh you know, required reporting. I don't.

5:51

I don't know that that's necessary. I thought that was locally

5:54

so. But locally obviously you're reporting it

5:56

to your boss to fire your gun. I

5:58

mean, you could get all fifty

6:00

states at this point to pass

6:02

pretty good solid police reform,

6:05

I think, and then

6:07

it could be police no pun intended at

6:09

the state level as opposed to

6:11

a giant, flabby,

6:13

unresponsive, overly

6:16

powerful, blunt instrument that

6:18

is a federal period. Now I would be I'm sure would

6:20

be against that if if only for my

6:22

life experiences. Whenever you try

6:24

to do this, it makes things worse every

6:27

single time I've ever experienced it in my life,

6:29

or there's government stuff or a giant company, whenever

6:31

they try to do it from the top down, like

6:33

the giant reports, more reports

6:36

being funneled up has always

6:38

made things worse in my life experience.

6:40

Yep, yep. Now on the Democrats make

6:43

things better, but it doesn't well, and that's

6:45

that's the problem. And people have this fantasy

6:48

idea of how the federal government works

6:50

and how its agencies work, and they think, oh

6:52

no, they'll they'll be efficient, they'll be forthright

6:55

and honest and hard working, and they'll

6:57

deal with this terrible problem. And I'm telling you, look

7:00

king to d C, which is from three

7:02

to three thousand miles. Well, I'm sorry, Alaska,

7:05

the six thousand miles away from you looking

7:08

to them to be your overlords and

7:10

and sweep in you know, goodness and justice.

7:12

It's just well, if I was gonna be charitable,

7:14

I'd say it's naive. If I was not gonna be charitable,

7:16

I'd say it's idiotic. Even before

7:19

the legislation was unveiled, unveiled

7:21

rather, Democratic leaders said it fell

7:23

short of the sweeping action is needed.

7:26

House Democrats are moving forward the package

7:29

that would strictly ban police choke holds, make it

7:31

easier for victims of police violence to sue officers

7:33

and departments, and create a national database

7:36

of police misconduct, among other

7:38

provisions. There is a lot of

7:40

overlap in these two measures, and

7:43

plenty to talk about, but the

7:45

White House has said revising so

7:48

called qualified immunity is

7:50

off the table, won't even talk

7:52

about it. Now. We're luck looking forward

7:54

to a conversation with one of the good folks

7:57

from the Pacific Legal Foundation. We're gonna

7:59

do an extra podcast and then

8:01

hit you with some highlights of it talking

8:03

about qualified immunity, the idea that

8:05

government employees cannot be sued

8:08

for violating your civil rights except

8:10

in very narrow circumstances. Um,

8:13

and those of us on the libertarian end

8:15

of conservatism, um, are

8:18

not fans of it at all. Um.

8:21

Well, one of the descents the other day

8:23

in the Supreme court from taking

8:25

this up as a case. Was talking

8:27

about how it's just it's not ended up being

8:29

used the way it was intended to be used. That

8:31

seems to be what's happened over the years. But we'll

8:34

learn more about that with our guests and tell you

8:36

about it later this week. One of the things I'm

8:38

gonna ask him, because I have such

8:40

a jaundiced view of humanity, like

8:42

all of humanity, is that if

8:46

you really rain

8:49

in qualified immunity, will

8:51

the the vermin like lawyers

8:54

of the world, Which is not to suggest that

8:56

all lawyers are vermin like, far from it,

8:59

but will the the real mosquito

9:01

lawyers of the world just flock to

9:05

and flock at every cop who

9:07

pulls anybody over for speeding, and

9:10

everybody will get sued all the time

9:14

to get settlements. Like happens

9:16

in the workplace. We've seen it. We've we've worked

9:19

in the same radio studio

9:21

for a long time now, um,

9:23

and we've seen people come and go, and we've

9:25

seen a handful of wrongful dismissal

9:27

suits and they were utterly

9:30

laughable, I mean, not even

9:32

close to being legit. And other people

9:35

who left by other means were

9:37

known to threaten that sort of thing as well. Um,

9:41

And they don't win those cases, but they get written a check

9:44

for five two dollars.

9:46

And I am a little concerned that the cops

9:48

of the world will just constantly be sued. But

9:51

you know, if it's gone way beyond the original

9:53

intent, to the point where you can have some

9:55

building inspector who you

9:58

you question, questioned him a little little

10:00

too sharply, and he violates

10:02

your civil rights over and over again and screws

10:04

you up and down. And I've known

10:06

business people this has happened to. Um,

10:09

if he violates your civil rights, you ought to be able to go

10:11

after him. The fact that he gets a paycheck

10:14

from some you know,

10:16

county somewhere protects him from

10:18

or enables him to violate your civil rights, that's obscene.

10:23

Um, we should revisit aunt Jemima

10:25

and Christopher Columbus. They're seeing each other. You

10:28

know, I'd heard that rumor, but I didn't. We

10:30

should reviews that those stories. Also, seven eleven

10:32

is canceled. It's free slurpy day that they have every

10:35

year. We all got hooked by the paw

10:37

patrol story that turns out was not true.

10:41

And some COVID and

10:45

some COVID stuff all the way

11:03

the Armstrong and Getty Show. I'll

11:08

start serious and gradually get less

11:10

serious. But it is becoming more and more

11:13

clear that former

11:16

rock star now he ain't

11:18

never gonna get elected to nothing. Governor

11:20

Andrew Cuomo's decision to

11:23

force nursing homes to

11:25

take COVID patients sentenced

11:28

thousands of people to death. Thousands

11:31

of vulnerable old people, your

11:35

grandma, your grandma, grandpa, whatever,

11:38

sentence them to death by making

11:40

the nursing homes. In many cases they're screaming,

11:43

don't send us COVID patients, were worried

11:45

that old people. It's around the world and showing old

11:47

people are more. It was the rule.

11:49

You had to have to take

11:52

them. You had to take them, and so we will punish

11:54

you, We will bring you to your knees. Unbelievable.

11:58

So this latest reort in the government

12:00

more power. This latest report says that

12:03

killed six thousand people. About six

12:05

per of the hundred thousand nursing

12:07

home residents in the state of New York died from

12:10

COVID because of you

12:12

know, some of them would have died anyway, but a

12:14

lot of them because of the policy,

12:17

the mandatory you must

12:19

take these COVID patients into your nursing

12:21

home. Just absolutely freaking unbelievable,

12:25

so fun

12:28

little run where Andrew Cuomo was on TV

12:30

Live every day because he's the genius Savior

12:32

leader. Why isn't he the Democratic nominee

12:35

freaking government in their policies and

12:38

they never held to account for these decisions.

12:41

Anyway, I'll move away from that.

12:44

Uh and Jemima is no more uh

12:46

PEPSI co owns Aunt Jemima

12:49

syrup um

12:51

and is doing away with Aunt Jemima.

12:54

She'd been updated like what a decade

12:56

fifteen years ago. She wasn't the more

12:58

zoftig black lady. It was like a really

13:01

hot uh black

13:03

mom on the on the

13:06

certain body and she lost the kerchief around

13:08

her head when they updated her.

13:10

Also, did she have anything on her on her hand?

13:12

I can't remember, Paul Catherine and

13:14

I was asking the question earlier, and I

13:18

don't care. There's no need to have Ant Jemima

13:20

on the syrup. But it doesn't actually

13:22

make it, you see. But I'm of the belief

13:24

that that had no negative effects

13:27

on me. The presence of

13:29

that image on the bottle. Yeah, I just

13:31

I can't believe that that had any negative

13:34

effect on me. Well,

13:36

I'm not sure it had any effect on me at

13:38

all, but it certainly don't think it had any

13:40

negative effect on me. Uh

13:43

No, they don't promote racism.

13:45

Did that spread racism? Did that make people think

13:47

a certain thing? I tell

13:49

you what, I grew up in a pretty racially diverse

13:52

well, I went to a racially diverse high school. And um,

13:55

the Antiemima did not influence my views

13:57

of my black classmates and friends anymore

13:59

than you know, like the Freedom

14:01

Bandido influenced my views of

14:04

the catcher on my baseball team whose mom was Mexican.

14:07

Um, it didn't. A friend of mine was

14:09

Pakistani. Um. And

14:11

and no like Arab

14:13

evil guy in his robes thing influenced

14:15

my views of of of him.

14:18

Um I yeah. At the same

14:20

time, I mean, if it's really a demeaning, like,

14:24

what's what's the meaning about what's de meaning

14:26

about it? We'll see that one. I didn't find

14:28

the meaning at all, especially the new one. I had the

14:30

idea that this nice

14:32

black lady makes pancakes and her serp is delicious.

14:35

I don't know. Um,

14:38

I'm with you on this one. I can't

14:40

imagine. So there

14:42

ain't no clowns flipping

14:44

burgers. It's your local McDonald's. Nobody's

14:46

thinks thinks there is anyway,

14:50

if you can, if you can explain how that was,

14:52

you know, actually racist and doing harm to America,

14:54

I'd like to hear the argument. But it was thought

14:57

to be a stereotypical view

15:00

of a black woman of the early twenty

15:03

similar to like the Cleveland Indians logo. Well

15:05

no, because it wasn't not comedic, and I

15:07

mean the original one, she was just a

15:09

slightly heavy set. I'm

15:12

talking about the one from like the sixties and seventies.

15:15

If if it started and there was some

15:17

horrific image, I'm not aware of that.

15:20

Maybe I'm stupid, but I used on racial stereotypes

15:22

of what I see it being classified as

15:24

is why it had to go. Yeah, okay, okay, the

15:27

Cleveland Indians thing is freaking ridiculous.

15:30

Aunt Jemima was just a nice looking black

15:32

lake. I just thought it was somebody's mom who

15:34

was black. I never thought about

15:36

it at all. Anyway. It was actually based on a

15:38

real image of a woman named Nancy Green,

15:41

who was known as a magnificent magnificent

15:43

cook, back in the day. You know, I was never

15:45

attracted her. I'm an aunt, Jemima Man. I'm

15:48

sorry, I'm a Mrs Butterworth Man. Now

15:51

she's married, but she keeps telling me she's gonna

15:54

get divorced soon. Uh.

15:56

And then the other one is the married

15:58

to Mr Butterworth obvious. Another

16:00

Columbus statue has come down, this one

16:03

in a park in St. Louis that had been up

16:05

since eight three. I think it was very

16:07

long time. Um. And

16:09

my problem with all these statues coming down is when

16:11

there's no vote or there's no process involved,

16:14

it's just either mobs pulling it down with a

16:16

rope and it stays down, or in this case, they

16:19

decided to remove it because people kept vandalizing

16:21

it and they couldn't afford

16:23

security to keep it from being vandalized, which

16:25

means the mob is determining what statues

16:28

are up in arn't And I just think that's a bad idea

16:30

and what lesson is learned by people observing this.

16:33

Here's how you get changed. Violence,

16:35

Yeah, exactly, violence, threat of violence, destroying

16:38

things until you get your way. I don't care

16:40

about. You can take down every Christopher Columbus statue

16:42

in Americas, I don't care, but I have

16:44

no that you know. The founding Father's stuff

16:46

I do care about. But Christopher Columbus freaking

16:49

cares. That whole story is dumb anyway

16:51

in terms of but UM

16:53

only discovered the Caribbean writers

16:56

long after American whatever. UM.

17:00

But the mob can't be deciding

17:02

what statues are up in our parks

17:04

were in front of our buildings. That's just no way to run

17:07

a country. I would agree

17:09

completely. Now, in California, they voted

17:11

to remove the Columbus statue from

17:13

the capitol rotunda, where it had been

17:15

since the very very long time. UM.

17:18

But they voted because Californians really

17:20

like the Bahamas and they appreciate him discovering

17:22

them. I guess it's hard to

17:24

imagine why Christopher Columbus was in the

17:26

rotunda of the California capital at all. It

17:29

was, but it was a nod to immigrants, and

17:31

particularly Italian immigrants, even though he was

17:34

Portuguese, well even canceled he

17:37

was Italian, sponsored

17:39

by queens Alias do

17:42

this good history life.

18:03

I really should at some point lay out what I ate.

18:06

Yesterday I had one of the all time worst

18:08

eating days, certainly certainly

18:10

for an adult in middle age. That's

18:12

that's saying something because you've had some doozies.

18:14

Oh yeah, it was just like extraordinary. Yeah

18:17

yeah. Oh coming up live team

18:20

coverage of the latest from Jazz

18:24

Jazz. So stay

18:26

tuned, won't you? Don't?

18:28

I understand it's shrunk. Yeah,

18:30

voluntarily, there was shrinkage.

18:35

What we're gonna do for you now is

18:38

play you. UM. An interview statement

18:41

by a Georgia sheriff whose name I don't

18:43

have in front of me, or if I do, I misplaced it and I

18:45

apologize for that. We'll get that for you.

18:48

UM. But he is a black man, and

18:51

he is talking about, you

18:54

know, aspects of the killing of the gentleman

18:57

at the Wendy's in Georgia

19:00

by the police. Um.

19:02

He's talking about it from a law enforcement perspective,

19:04

in a sociological perspective that I think is absolutely

19:07

worth hearing. I assume you've seen the video the guy

19:09

uh passed out slash fell

19:11

asleep in the drive through at Wendy's. Wendy's

19:14

people called the cops that we got a drunk guy passed

19:16

out. They get there, they determined he probably is drunk.

19:18

They talked for twenty minutes, very calmly

19:21

him and the cops. Yeah. Anyway, when

19:23

they went to arrest him, he tries to fight

19:25

him and then, uh, you know, he ends up getting

19:28

shot and killed. This is Sheriff Alphonso

19:30

Williams. Okay, very good, let's roll that.

19:33

You know, the family attorney in this case says that

19:35

police should have tried to catch

19:37

Brooks instead of shooting

19:40

at him. What is your reaction to

19:42

that? Having

19:46

thirty years and the business

19:48

police lay in law enforcement, and twenty

19:51

seven of those years having taught use

19:53

of force and taught hundreds

19:56

and hundreds of all enforcement officers across

19:58

the state of Georgia and others eights, I

20:01

just think that he's a lawyer. He's

20:03

not a law enforcement officer. I

20:05

think that is It's just a ridiculous

20:07

statement. Uh. Obviously,

20:10

we saw in the video that the

20:14

Brooks was engaged in a fight with the officers.

20:17

They were on the ground. We know that when we're on

20:19

the ground, we have a very high

20:21

likelihood of being hurt or killed.

20:24

It's not the place we want to be. This

20:26

is not a wrestling match. The

20:29

Brooks is able to take a

20:31

non lethal weapon, a taser, away from

20:33

one of the officers and he flees. They

20:36

give chase. He's committed

20:39

to felony obstruction

20:41

of an officer counts, and

20:44

he needs to be held to combo. So they were

20:46

perfectly justified in running behind

20:49

Brooks to to capture him.

20:52

He Brooks turned back to

20:54

the officers and fired the taser.

20:57

And we all know this is

20:59

a third law enforcement agency I've been head

21:01

of, and and every agency

21:03

I've gone to, I've required every

21:06

officer who carries a taser to

21:08

to be tased with it so that you

21:11

understand the incapacitation five

21:14

seconds one thousand one,

21:16

one thousand two, one thousand

21:19

three, one thousand four, one

21:21

thousand five. That's five whole

21:24

seconds that if an officer has hit with

21:26

that taser, that he all of his

21:28

muscles will be locked up, and he'll have the

21:30

inability to move and to

21:32

respond, and yet he is

21:35

still responsible for every weapon

21:37

on his belt. He is. So

21:39

if that officer had been hit, he

21:41

still has a farm on his side,

21:44

and the likelihood of him being stomped

21:46

in the head or having his farm

21:48

taken and used against him was

21:51

a probability, And so

21:53

he did what he needed to

21:55

do, and this was a completely justifiation shooting

21:58

the show that's

22:02

you don't listen. This is the nGy

22:04

way of things. You

22:06

don't need to agree with that

22:10

to agree that it's worth hearing

22:12

that perspective. And I hadn't heard

22:14

any other media outlet. My first thought was

22:17

when I heard this and there was discussion on a cable news

22:19

channel, my first thought was, well, if he taste

22:21

if the if the guy running away had hit

22:24

the cops and taste him, then he could take their gun.

22:26

And I hadn't heard anybody bring that up, and I thought, that's

22:28

the that's the most obvious thing that happens. So

22:30

I'm glad that sheriff mentioned that as a possibility.

22:33

Well, remember that was key to the whole Michael Brown

22:35

thing in Ferguson. He was fighting the cop trying to

22:37

get his guns. So the idea that he was quote

22:39

unquote unarmed UM is

22:42

highly debatable. I know

22:44

where this interview goes because I've heard it. I still haven't

22:47

heard the answer for We brought it up yesterday, and

22:49

I'm not second guesting anybody. I'm just asking,

22:51

um, he wouldn't

22:53

have turned and fired the taser if you hadn't

22:56

been If you wouldn't have started to chase him. I

22:58

don't think so, what would

23:00

the would it be good in the future, tell

23:02

that somebody who's who has committed

23:05

a non violent crime, you think drunk

23:09

driving. Um, just

23:11

let him go and then you go catch him later.

23:13

The Chief addresses that Victor Davis Hansen, we played

23:15

that yesterday. He made some good points on the topic. It's

23:17

a really good question. The Chief will answer that and also

23:20

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23:23

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All right, let's hear more from the Georgia sheriff

24:28

did what he needed to do and this was a completely

24:30

justified shooting. There's

24:33

there's nothing malicious or sadistic

24:35

and the way these officers behaved, and

24:38

it's very unfortunate that the

24:40

law enforcement leaders in a

24:42

state of Georgia have not come out and

24:44

stood together on this case.

24:47

I think it's political and and

24:49

it it's it's sisseless. We're

24:52

sending in the wrong message to our black youth.

24:54

We're telling them that that that

24:57

it's okay, that that they can run

25:00

from the police, they can take a weapon from

25:02

the police, they can fight with the police and

25:06

and and point a weapon at

25:08

the police and expect nothing

25:10

to happen. That is the wrong message to

25:12

saying to black youth that

25:16

miraculously was on CNN.

25:18

I think, wasn't it. Yeah? I recognized

25:20

one of the anchor Att's voice there. It

25:23

haunts my dreams. Uh

25:26

yeah. Well, and again, if we're going

25:28

to talk about policing in an intelligent way, not

25:30

an angry mob tearing down statues in the parkway

25:32

or torching small businesses, often

25:35

minority owned way of talking, but

25:37

seriously discussing it. UM,

25:39

you need to hear that perspective. What

25:42

if the um I haven't heard anybody

25:44

say this, but I'm sure people are saying it. When

25:49

they went to put him in handcuffs, he's thinking,

25:51

well, once I'm in handcuffs, you could get me on the ground and

25:53

kneel on my neck till I'm dead. I've seen it on TV

25:56

a thousand times. That's what the family lawyers

25:58

is saying, is it? And they say it soon

26:00

triggered by having the handcuffs start to Because

26:02

I can understand that it's unfortunate that there

26:05

are people that believe that. I don't believe

26:07

that if I got pulled over and they had to put cups

26:09

on me for some reason, I would think I'm you know, nothing bad.

26:12

Is gonna happen to me. But if you're convinced

26:14

once they have you in handcuffs they might beat you or

26:16

kill you, I can see why you'd run to get

26:19

away from that. Yeah, that that is

26:21

the you know, that's well, that's that's

26:23

the damage bad cops do, making

26:26

the whole all and making it difficult not just

26:28

for all other good cops, but for all of society.

26:31

Because if you have a portion of the of the society

26:34

that believes the cops are out to get you, the

26:36

no, you're not going to get people to comply

26:39

with the cops because they feel like once you get cups

26:41

on me or you can do anything to me. And there

26:43

are absolutely racial issues having to do with

26:45

the various places in the police. On

26:47

the other hand, you have the mainstream media

26:50

which is just loving

26:52

the horror porn of the videos

26:55

and showing them over and over and over

26:57

again and in the same way and again.

27:00

It's not like there is no issue. I'm not saying that

27:02

at all, But if you saw

27:04

a video of a child

27:06

being abducted all

27:08

day, every day, you would

27:11

really start to be paranoid about your children

27:13

getting abducted. Here

27:15

where the guy pulls her into the van and you saw

27:17

it over and over and over again. Heck, yeah, that would have an

27:19

effect on you. Yeah, the the

27:21

horror porn, that's that's a good

27:23

one. That's a good conundrum because you don't

27:25

want you don't want to hide the reality of it from the public

27:27

at all. Um. I

27:31

had read about it and everything. When I saw it, that's

27:33

when I realized, Okay, this guy just murdered somebody

27:35

in the streets. What happened here? I got

27:37

that from watching the video. Um, But

27:41

then you played enough and you start to have the

27:43

opposite effect. I don't know. That's a that's

27:45

a tough one. Yeah, yeah, uh.

27:47

You know the other argument I've heard from cops about this Georgia

27:50

case. Um, and this guy

27:52

was the father of four and it just it's

27:55

awful that he's dead. Well, if you agree

27:58

on that, and if you listen to the conversation nation they've

28:02

had, because they talked for twenty minutes calmly, you

28:04

think, how does this guy end up dead? This seems

28:06

so calm and and easy

28:09

to you know, it just doesn't seem like this could possibly

28:11

know how it ends. It still doesn't seem like

28:13

it could end with a death. Well,

28:16

and the other thing that that bothers

28:19

me about this has I've heard certain activist types

28:21

say, well, look at the point that he

28:24

fought the cops and grab

28:26

the taser and ran away, you got you gotta let

28:28

him go and

28:31

excuse me, what are you going to get more of? Then?

28:33

Yeah, guy thinks I don't want to get arrested.

28:36

I know what I'll do. I'll fight the cops, take their tasters.

28:38

They'll let me go because that's the new policy. If

28:40

I can win this fistfight, they

28:43

let me go, and then at least I got a chance to

28:46

you know, get to another state, hide out whatever. We

28:49

can't have an opt in trial by combat,

28:53

that is you can need to write that somewhere.

28:55

That's the best way to put it anywhere. And

28:59

when the trial combat scene in the Game

29:01

of Thrones, who has had brutal an optional

29:03

trial by conduct combat it's you

29:06

know, I get arrested. If I can take this guy,

29:08

I get to get away and at least, you know, take

29:11

my chances out to this woman or this woman,

29:13

right. Yeah, So that yeah, that that that's

29:15

that doesn't work. That's non a non working

29:17

situation. At the same time, if there were

29:20

no police brutality, and we've received

29:22

a handful of emails from white people who have

29:24

had the speed out of them by the cops,

29:27

I mean, utterly unjustified

29:29

to hear their story. Um,

29:32

if there were no oh

29:35

yeah, if there were no excessive

29:38

force, then you wouldn't have a lot

29:40

of these problems. Although certain absolutely

29:43

a lot of guys don't want to get arrested again because they've

29:45

been arrested several times, and the penalties

29:48

tend to get worse the more you get arrested and convicted,

29:50

So there would still be people trying to fight the cops.

29:52

But again, you know, our point in playing

29:55

it was just to give you a different perspective than you're

29:57

hearing in the mainstream media. And if you're an intelligent, thinking

29:59

person, you've we out of here both. Again, that's a

30:01

Georgia sheriff who's trained lots of

30:03

cops and he was highly disappointed the

30:06

police chief resigned immediately, as

30:09

he says, is a political thing, you

30:11

know, and it might have been the right move if

30:13

she hadn't resigned, maybe the half the city's

30:15

on fire and how

30:18

many billion dollars worth of damage done in Minneapolis.

30:20

I think fifty some uh

30:22

don't a billion. I mean, um uh,

30:25

you know that happens in Atlanta. If she doesn't resign

30:28

immediately and you avoid it, all that ail

30:30

trouble bruning chairs. We'll

30:33

have a live team report from

30:36

the Autonomous Zone in Seattle next

30:54

the Armstrong and Get Show. Here's

31:00

a guy who's lived

31:02

in the area of Seattle now called

31:04

Chaz for years. Whether

31:09

this was an overreaction or not. Whether

31:12

this is an overreaction or not, I don't know. But he wanted

31:14

his voice disguised and everything like that because he's scared

31:16

of the Chazz people. If they recognize his voice,

31:18

maybe you are. Just let's go with this voice

31:21

here. I've lived in chairs

31:23

most of my life anyway,

31:26

this is what he said. For the first time in

31:28

my life in Capitol Hill. I hear gunshots

31:31

every single night, and I've heard people screaming

31:33

every single night outside and uh, they're

31:36

not protest screams. I've heard protests

31:38

screams, but I've also heard like

31:41

skins of terror out there, and I don't know what's

31:43

happening out there. Yeah,

31:45

so I'm I'm having trouble nailing down

31:47

it's actually happening I saw a report on Fox yesterday.

31:49

This is on Fox, and they're

31:52

more interested in the negative aspects of Chadz

31:54

than the other channels are. And they said it's been

31:56

peaceful for for almost entirely peaceful

31:58

for the last thirty six hours. That's what they

32:00

said on Fox. Now, this guy says he's hurting hearing

32:03

gunshots every night. I've heard other people say

32:05

it's a it's a it's a night and day difference,

32:08

literally, and that the daytime is a street

32:10

party and everybody's happy, and at night he gets

32:12

really scary. At night, the dominant

32:14

beasts take control. I've heard people

32:17

say, I've heard reporters say the businesses are

32:19

on board with this, they think it's awesome and

32:21

they're you know, helping out with water and food and that sort

32:23

of stuff. I've also heard other people say they

32:25

they're they're they're doing this because they're scared to death their place

32:28

is gonna get smashed. Yeah, we

32:30

could play clips seventeen. Why not let's

32:33

hit it. Oh, here it comes.

32:36

That went down Sunday night, and it's a clear

32:39

and scary example of what can happen

32:41

when the police do not respond because of a city's

32:44

leadership. It happened at this auto repair

32:46

shop in Seattle, just outside

32:49

about a block down from the occupation

32:51

protest. The owners caught a guy who

32:53

was armed with a knife in the act of stealing money

32:55

and car keys and setting a fire inside

32:57

the shop. They detained him while

33:00

armed themselves, and called Seattle police.

33:02

They never showed up to take the suspect

33:04

into custody, and an angry mob

33:06

from the protest zone broke down the fence

33:09

demanding the suspect be released. Eventually

33:12

the owner complied. Luckily, no

33:14

shots were fired. I

33:17

am very shaken up. I am very

33:19

disappointed in the city's leadership.

33:21

I'm very disappointed in the lack of police

33:24

protection. I'm very disappointed that

33:26

the fire department didn't show up fire

33:28

department police to enforce law

33:31

and order. We saw a case of street justice.

33:33

A group of armed men from the protest

33:36

zone surrounded the thief and arsonist, demanding

33:38

he gave up the cash and keys. When he

33:40

refused, he was beaten by the so called security

33:43

team. On Monday, Seattle Police

33:45

Chief Carmen Best that officers did respond

33:47

to the area, but chose not to engage

33:50

on behalf of the victim business owner or suspect.

33:53

Yeah, that's a heck of a deal there. Well that is the Old

33:55

West, is what that is. Yeah. I

33:58

got a note from listeners who asked to be

34:01

an anonymous or small business

34:03

owners in wacky Washington. They're in

34:05

Seattle. Checked out Chaz Chop.

34:07

They say they really wanted to be called Chop.

34:09

It's written in spray paint everywhere. That's why I'm

34:11

calling it jazz. When

34:14

they were there during the daytime, a lot of tours taking

34:16

pictures, which made one guy mad, yelled about

34:19

it not being Coachella. The atmosphere was tense.

34:22

There's some yelling in that sort of thing. And then this from a Seattle

34:24

p D officer. Um.

34:27

He goes on about the the chaos

34:30

and all Um, the

34:32

warlord in charge of the new Capitol

34:34

Hill autonom his zone, drives a Tesla. He's been

34:37

arrested for drugs, guns, pimping, and

34:39

crimes against children, and is on a federal

34:41

child porn watch list. He

34:43

carries an a K forty seven. He's already started

34:45

abusing people inside w t F.

34:48

You can't make this up. We've been castrated. There's

34:50

no recovering from this. We can't go near

34:53

the zone, have been warned by our department to stay away.

34:55

We're only working for each other. Now. We've

34:57

been in battles where these psychopaths have hit us with

34:59

raw cinder blocks, homemade napalm.

35:02

Even I E. D s multiple injuries,

35:04

and then we gave up the precinct. Now the guns

35:06

are out, this city can burn. I'm working

35:08

on my exit plan right now. The city and state

35:10

hates us and gives us no support. In fact, the

35:12

leaders are actively supporting this very real insurgency.

35:15

Yet all you hear in the media is that they are merely peaceful

35:18

protesters. This is real. This

35:21

is people need to know. This is not about race,

35:23

It's about control. Share it, but

35:25

don't say my name. Wow sounds

35:27

familiar, signed the San Francisco Police Department.

35:30

Well all you, this

35:32

is a known fact. Nobody's disputing this. The police

35:35

precinct closed down, boarded up, and took all their

35:37

equipment out of there. That happened,

35:39

and it's been taken over now. But so the

35:41

chas maniacs, whether

35:43

it was peaceful or not, you can't

35:46

have that. You can you can't

35:48

have police driven out of their precincts and

35:50

saying, just you're not allowed to have a police precinct

35:53

in this part of town. I guess we'll leave.

35:55

Then you need not respond to law

35:57

abiding, taxpaying citizens who need us desperately.

36:00

How about that story, though, See you catch

36:02

somebody breaking into your place, you apprehend them with

36:04

a weapon. I mean, that's a heck of a deal. You're

36:06

in a you're in a battle with a guy with a

36:08

knife and you've got a weapon, and you apprehend him, you

36:12

call the police. They don't ever show up. A

36:14

mob shows up, and you're

36:16

scared of them, legitimately so rightfully,

36:19

so you turn the guy loose. Then

36:22

the mob makes that guy give the money back

36:24

because they're going to Enford. There the police

36:26

force, which

36:29

which we're supposed to be against, right having a police

36:31

force, but they're the police force. Well, and did I

36:33

hear they were gonna beat down a guy for being an arsonist.

36:36

But when anybody understand what irony is,

36:38

when the guy wouldn't give the money back, they beat

36:40

him. Right. But that's

36:42

not the kind of justice we have in America. You go to

36:45

jail, that's the justice in chazz. And

36:47

then there's a there's a you're you're

36:49

appointed, you're appointed a lawyer

36:52

if you can't afford one, and you get a trial, and then

36:54

maybe you know, maybe you didn't do it right.

36:57

But no, that no, this is vigilante, old

36:59

timey wild West justice, and

37:01

that's better than what we've had. Child

37:04

molester with an A K forty seven is the judge.

37:06

Okay, super how's

37:08

your utopia coming along? Does

37:11

this Peter Outer end violently? Your

37:13

guess. We don't have much time. Seattle

37:17

is such a freak show already in the city

37:20

council is a bunch of gutless communists.

37:22

So I say it goes on for a very very

37:24

long time, really armstrong

37:30

and getty

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