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According to a new study from the c d C, most
0:24
people are not using hand sanitizer
0:26
correctly. They say, you're supposed
0:28
to rub your hands with sanitizer for thirty
0:31
seconds, which is even longer than when you watch
0:33
your hands it's twenty seconds. The study
0:35
was published in the Journal of Information.
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It would have been nice to have three months ago. Yeah,
0:44
yeah, I am not doing
0:46
that. I didn't know that I am not doing it. To wait
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a minute, if your hands are soaked with it,
0:50
what does it matter if you're rubbing or not, or
0:53
you see, you never know with these idiotic
0:55
government pronouncements from the Journal
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of that would have been nice to note three
1:00
months ago. It's a pretty
1:02
funny joke. I use hand sanitizer
1:04
so much. I keep a bottle
1:06
in my in my truck and I have just constantly
1:09
using it. But I haven't been even
1:11
close to rubbing for thirty seconds with it. I
1:14
put a little in there and I rub it until it's gone, or
1:17
you walk around with it kind of wet with your hands up
1:19
in the air like a surgeon ntil it dries off. I mean,
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how much are you supposed to use? Doesn't that
1:23
dictate how long you'll rob don't
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know. I mean, all right, here, here you go.
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Here's an illustration. This is what makes
1:30
me insane. All right, Look, I just took
1:33
a little squirt. I got one right in front of me. It's roughly
1:35
the size of a p Okay,
1:37
there you're going. I'm gonna rob and rub
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and rub till my hands are raw with my little
1:42
peace sized compliment of
1:44
hand sanitizer, which isn't nearly
1:47
enough to cover both of my enormous manly
1:49
hands harry
1:52
gnarled knuckles. The rest of it can hit a
1:54
golf ball two in thirty yards exactly. Or
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I can take a squirt
2:00
like somebody spilled an orange juice
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glass and robert for ten
2:04
seconds and then walk around with it dripping down
2:06
my wrists? Which one was better? Oh,
2:09
for the love of logic, I
2:12
can't take the buttered world anymore. I can't take
2:14
it. There's that girl trying
2:17
to rescue that squirrel. That
2:19
video may be shown for the rest of our lives.
2:22
Her to help you, let
2:25
me rescue you, And then it jumps
2:27
on her and she shrieks
2:30
like a lunatic. Of course, so would
2:32
I. You got a wild beast
2:34
leaping upon your chest, I don't think I've
2:36
shown I don't think I've shown my wife the picture
2:38
of the squirrel on Henry at the Grand
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Canyon. Oh you got
2:43
She's gonna be so unhappy with that. Well,
2:45
he might get Rocky Mountain squirrel fever. Why
2:48
did you let a squirrel crawl on him?
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I don't know what was I gonna do? Shoot it? I assumed
2:54
it would run away. Kids are always trying
2:56
to catch squirrels. They don't catch the rights.
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But he did catch this one right. Maybe
3:01
it wanted to be caught apparently. Yeah,
3:05
So Center Republicans unveiled
3:07
a policing reform bill, the President
3:09
signed an executive order, Congress has
3:11
a plan, and
3:14
uh and and it's now
3:17
we're gonna have a long negotiating period
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where various ideas are going to be bandied about,
3:22
and they'll try to arrive at a at
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a compromise. Although I have at
3:27
least half a suspicion that
3:30
the Democrats would much rather have the
3:32
issue in November
3:34
than a solution. A
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compromised plan that would make the
3:39
Trump administration and Senate
3:41
and House Republicans look good could
3:44
be you know, really
3:46
weakening for the Democrats come November
3:49
so I would I would set your sights
3:51
toward loud negotiating
3:54
in no solution and that the Democrats
3:56
will toss up things they know the
3:58
Republicans can never vote for. To
4:01
keep this in the news, but at any rate,
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Center Republicans unveiled the Police Form bill
4:05
that would discourage, but not ban,
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the so called chokeholes
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and no knock warrants. I
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don't I don't mind the chokehole decision,
4:15
and people who know more about it, you know, can decide
4:17
what's right. But that was it not a chokehold,
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old the murdery what's his name and man's
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neck? Yeah, that was that was not approved anything
4:26
right. That was horrific. The Republican
4:28
proposal, which Senate leader said would be considered
4:30
on the floor next week, does not mandate
4:34
certain policing practices the Democratic
4:36
plan does. The federal government will mandate your
4:38
local police force does A,
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B and C. The Republican plan encourages
4:43
thousands of local police law enforcement agencies
4:45
to curtail practices such as chokeholds
4:47
and certain no knock warrants by withholding
4:50
federal funds to departments that don't
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uh, you know, adhere to
4:55
their will. Um
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and they must submit reports
4:59
about them. The gislation also requires local law
5:01
enforcement agencies to report all
5:03
officer involved deaths to the FBI.
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Tim Scott, Republicans, South Carolina,
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the black Republican senator, is spearing
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the spearheading the GOP bill. Um.
5:16
I saw some courages the broader use of body worn
5:18
cameras as well. I don't know if it was this. I
5:20
saw something somewhere where you
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you have to report within a certain amount
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of time whenever you fire your weapon,
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and I thought that's not already the
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case, not to the federal government. The
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federal government has brutally incomplete
5:34
statistics on all of that. It's just it's
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a local matter. If there's a big enough
5:39
noise, it goes to your county, then maybe to your state. Um.
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You know, it's so hard for
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me to advocate nationalized
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uh you know, required reporting. I don't.
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I don't know that that's necessary. I thought that was locally
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so. But locally obviously you're reporting it
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to your boss to fire your gun. I
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mean, you could get all fifty
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states at this point to pass
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pretty good solid police reform,
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I think, and then
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it could be police no pun intended at
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the state level as opposed to
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a giant, flabby,
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unresponsive, overly
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powerful, blunt instrument that
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is a federal period. Now I would be I'm sure would
6:20
be against that if if only for my
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life experiences. Whenever you try
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to do this, it makes things worse every
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single time I've ever experienced it in my life,
6:29
or there's government stuff or a giant company, whenever
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they try to do it from the top down, like
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the giant reports, more reports
6:36
being funneled up has always
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made things worse in my life experience.
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Yep, yep. Now on the Democrats make
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things better, but it doesn't well, and that's
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that's the problem. And people have this fantasy
6:48
idea of how the federal government works
6:50
and how its agencies work, and they think, oh
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no, they'll they'll be efficient, they'll be forthright
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and honest and hard working, and they'll
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deal with this terrible problem. And I'm telling you, look
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king to d C, which is from three
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to three thousand miles. Well, I'm sorry, Alaska,
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the six thousand miles away from you looking
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to them to be your overlords and
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and sweep in you know, goodness and justice.
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It's just well, if I was gonna be charitable,
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I'd say it's naive. If I was not gonna be charitable,
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I'd say it's idiotic. Even before
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the legislation was unveiled, unveiled
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rather, Democratic leaders said it fell
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short of the sweeping action is needed.
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House Democrats are moving forward the package
7:29
that would strictly ban police choke holds, make it
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easier for victims of police violence to sue officers
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and departments, and create a national database
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of police misconduct, among other
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provisions. There is a lot of
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overlap in these two measures, and
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plenty to talk about, but the
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White House has said revising so
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called qualified immunity is
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off the table, won't even talk
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about it. Now. We're luck looking forward
7:54
to a conversation with one of the good folks
7:57
from the Pacific Legal Foundation. We're gonna
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do an extra podcast and then
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hit you with some highlights of it talking
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about qualified immunity, the idea that
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government employees cannot be sued
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for violating your civil rights except
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in very narrow circumstances. Um,
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and those of us on the libertarian end
8:15
of conservatism, um, are
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not fans of it at all. Um.
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Well, one of the descents the other day
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in the Supreme court from taking
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this up as a case. Was talking
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about how it's just it's not ended up being
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used the way it was intended to be used. That
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seems to be what's happened over the years. But we'll
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learn more about that with our guests and tell you
8:36
about it later this week. One of the things I'm
8:38
gonna ask him, because I have such
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a jaundiced view of humanity, like
8:42
all of humanity, is that if
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you really rain
8:49
in qualified immunity, will
8:51
the the vermin like lawyers
8:54
of the world, Which is not to suggest that
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all lawyers are vermin like, far from it,
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but will the the real mosquito
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lawyers of the world just flock to
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and flock at every cop who
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pulls anybody over for speeding, and
9:10
everybody will get sued all the time
9:14
to get settlements. Like happens
9:16
in the workplace. We've seen it. We've we've worked
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in the same radio studio
9:21
for a long time now, um,
9:23
and we've seen people come and go, and we've
9:25
seen a handful of wrongful dismissal
9:27
suits and they were utterly
9:30
laughable, I mean, not even
9:32
close to being legit. And other people
9:35
who left by other means were
9:37
known to threaten that sort of thing as well. Um,
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And they don't win those cases, but they get written a check
9:44
for five two dollars.
9:46
And I am a little concerned that the cops
9:48
of the world will just constantly be sued. But
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you know, if it's gone way beyond the original
9:53
intent, to the point where you can have some
9:55
building inspector who you
9:58
you question, questioned him a little little
10:00
too sharply, and he violates
10:02
your civil rights over and over again and screws
10:04
you up and down. And I've known
10:06
business people this has happened to. Um,
10:09
if he violates your civil rights, you ought to be able to go
10:11
after him. The fact that he gets a paycheck
10:14
from some you know,
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county somewhere protects him from
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or enables him to violate your civil rights, that's obscene.
10:23
Um, we should revisit aunt Jemima
10:25
and Christopher Columbus. They're seeing each other. You
10:28
know, I'd heard that rumor, but I didn't. We
10:30
should reviews that those stories. Also, seven eleven
10:32
is canceled. It's free slurpy day that they have every
10:35
year. We all got hooked by the paw
10:37
patrol story that turns out was not true.
10:41
And some COVID and
10:45
some COVID stuff all the way
11:03
the Armstrong and Getty Show. I'll
11:08
start serious and gradually get less
11:10
serious. But it is becoming more and more
11:13
clear that former
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rock star now he ain't
11:18
never gonna get elected to nothing. Governor
11:20
Andrew Cuomo's decision to
11:23
force nursing homes to
11:25
take COVID patients sentenced
11:28
thousands of people to death. Thousands
11:31
of vulnerable old people, your
11:35
grandma, your grandma, grandpa, whatever,
11:38
sentence them to death by making
11:40
the nursing homes. In many cases they're screaming,
11:43
don't send us COVID patients, were worried
11:45
that old people. It's around the world and showing old
11:47
people are more. It was the rule.
11:49
You had to have to take
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them. You had to take them, and so we will punish
11:54
you, We will bring you to your knees. Unbelievable.
11:58
So this latest reort in the government
12:00
more power. This latest report says that
12:03
killed six thousand people. About six
12:05
per of the hundred thousand nursing
12:07
home residents in the state of New York died from
12:10
COVID because of you
12:12
know, some of them would have died anyway, but a
12:14
lot of them because of the policy,
12:17
the mandatory you must
12:19
take these COVID patients into your nursing
12:21
home. Just absolutely freaking unbelievable,
12:25
so fun
12:28
little run where Andrew Cuomo was on TV
12:30
Live every day because he's the genius Savior
12:32
leader. Why isn't he the Democratic nominee
12:35
freaking government in their policies and
12:38
they never held to account for these decisions.
12:41
Anyway, I'll move away from that.
12:44
Uh and Jemima is no more uh
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PEPSI co owns Aunt Jemima
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syrup um
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and is doing away with Aunt Jemima.
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She'd been updated like what a decade
12:56
fifteen years ago. She wasn't the more
12:58
zoftig black lady. It was like a really
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hot uh black
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mom on the on the
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certain body and she lost the kerchief around
13:08
her head when they updated her.
13:10
Also, did she have anything on her on her hand?
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I can't remember, Paul Catherine and
13:14
I was asking the question earlier, and I
13:18
don't care. There's no need to have Ant Jemima
13:20
on the syrup. But it doesn't actually
13:22
make it, you see. But I'm of the belief
13:24
that that had no negative effects
13:27
on me. The presence of
13:29
that image on the bottle. Yeah, I just
13:31
I can't believe that that had any negative
13:34
effect on me. Well,
13:36
I'm not sure it had any effect on me at
13:38
all, but it certainly don't think it had any
13:40
negative effect on me. Uh
13:43
No, they don't promote racism.
13:45
Did that spread racism? Did that make people think
13:47
a certain thing? I tell
13:49
you what, I grew up in a pretty racially diverse
13:52
well, I went to a racially diverse high school. And um,
13:55
the Antiemima did not influence my views
13:57
of my black classmates and friends anymore
13:59
than you know, like the Freedom
14:01
Bandido influenced my views of
14:04
the catcher on my baseball team whose mom was Mexican.
14:07
Um, it didn't. A friend of mine was
14:09
Pakistani. Um. And
14:11
and no like Arab
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evil guy in his robes thing influenced
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my views of of of him.
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Um I yeah. At the same
14:20
time, I mean, if it's really a demeaning, like,
14:24
what's what's the meaning about what's de meaning
14:26
about it? We'll see that one. I didn't find
14:28
the meaning at all, especially the new one. I had the
14:30
idea that this nice
14:32
black lady makes pancakes and her serp is delicious.
14:35
I don't know. Um,
14:38
I'm with you on this one. I can't
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imagine. So there
14:42
ain't no clowns flipping
14:44
burgers. It's your local McDonald's. Nobody's
14:46
thinks thinks there is anyway,
14:50
if you can, if you can explain how that was,
14:52
you know, actually racist and doing harm to America,
14:54
I'd like to hear the argument. But it was thought
14:57
to be a stereotypical view
15:00
of a black woman of the early twenty
15:03
similar to like the Cleveland Indians logo. Well
15:05
no, because it wasn't not comedic, and I
15:07
mean the original one, she was just a
15:09
slightly heavy set. I'm
15:12
talking about the one from like the sixties and seventies.
15:15
If if it started and there was some
15:17
horrific image, I'm not aware of that.
15:20
Maybe I'm stupid, but I used on racial stereotypes
15:22
of what I see it being classified as
15:24
is why it had to go. Yeah, okay, okay, the
15:27
Cleveland Indians thing is freaking ridiculous.
15:30
Aunt Jemima was just a nice looking black
15:32
lake. I just thought it was somebody's mom who
15:34
was black. I never thought about
15:36
it at all. Anyway. It was actually based on a
15:38
real image of a woman named Nancy Green,
15:41
who was known as a magnificent magnificent
15:43
cook, back in the day. You know, I was never
15:45
attracted her. I'm an aunt, Jemima Man. I'm
15:48
sorry, I'm a Mrs Butterworth Man. Now
15:51
she's married, but she keeps telling me she's gonna
15:54
get divorced soon. Uh.
15:56
And then the other one is the married
15:58
to Mr Butterworth obvious. Another
16:00
Columbus statue has come down, this one
16:03
in a park in St. Louis that had been up
16:05
since eight three. I think it was very
16:07
long time. Um. And
16:09
my problem with all these statues coming down is when
16:11
there's no vote or there's no process involved,
16:14
it's just either mobs pulling it down with a
16:16
rope and it stays down, or in this case, they
16:19
decided to remove it because people kept vandalizing
16:21
it and they couldn't afford
16:23
security to keep it from being vandalized, which
16:25
means the mob is determining what statues
16:28
are up in arn't And I just think that's a bad idea
16:30
and what lesson is learned by people observing this.
16:33
Here's how you get changed. Violence,
16:35
Yeah, exactly, violence, threat of violence, destroying
16:38
things until you get your way. I don't care
16:40
about. You can take down every Christopher Columbus statue
16:42
in Americas, I don't care, but I have
16:44
no that you know. The founding Father's stuff
16:46
I do care about. But Christopher Columbus freaking
16:49
cares. That whole story is dumb anyway
16:51
in terms of but UM
16:53
only discovered the Caribbean writers
16:56
long after American whatever. UM.
17:00
But the mob can't be deciding
17:02
what statues are up in our parks
17:04
were in front of our buildings. That's just no way to run
17:07
a country. I would agree
17:09
completely. Now, in California, they voted
17:11
to remove the Columbus statue from
17:13
the capitol rotunda, where it had been
17:15
since the very very long time. UM.
17:18
But they voted because Californians really
17:20
like the Bahamas and they appreciate him discovering
17:22
them. I guess it's hard to
17:24
imagine why Christopher Columbus was in the
17:26
rotunda of the California capital at all. It
17:29
was, but it was a nod to immigrants, and
17:31
particularly Italian immigrants, even though he was
17:34
Portuguese, well even canceled he
17:37
was Italian, sponsored
17:39
by queens Alias do
17:42
this good history life.
18:03
I really should at some point lay out what I ate.
18:06
Yesterday I had one of the all time worst
18:08
eating days, certainly certainly
18:10
for an adult in middle age. That's
18:12
that's saying something because you've had some doozies.
18:14
Oh yeah, it was just like extraordinary. Yeah
18:17
yeah. Oh coming up live team
18:20
coverage of the latest from Jazz
18:24
Jazz. So stay
18:26
tuned, won't you? Don't?
18:28
I understand it's shrunk. Yeah,
18:30
voluntarily, there was shrinkage.
18:35
What we're gonna do for you now is
18:38
play you. UM. An interview statement
18:41
by a Georgia sheriff whose name I don't
18:43
have in front of me, or if I do, I misplaced it and I
18:45
apologize for that. We'll get that for you.
18:48
UM. But he is a black man, and
18:51
he is talking about, you
18:54
know, aspects of the killing of the gentleman
18:57
at the Wendy's in Georgia
19:00
by the police. Um.
19:02
He's talking about it from a law enforcement perspective,
19:04
in a sociological perspective that I think is absolutely
19:07
worth hearing. I assume you've seen the video the guy
19:09
uh passed out slash fell
19:11
asleep in the drive through at Wendy's. Wendy's
19:14
people called the cops that we got a drunk guy passed
19:16
out. They get there, they determined he probably is drunk.
19:18
They talked for twenty minutes, very calmly
19:21
him and the cops. Yeah. Anyway, when
19:23
they went to arrest him, he tries to fight
19:25
him and then, uh, you know, he ends up getting
19:28
shot and killed. This is Sheriff Alphonso
19:30
Williams. Okay, very good, let's roll that.
19:33
You know, the family attorney in this case says that
19:35
police should have tried to catch
19:37
Brooks instead of shooting
19:40
at him. What is your reaction to
19:42
that? Having
19:46
thirty years and the business
19:48
police lay in law enforcement, and twenty
19:51
seven of those years having taught use
19:53
of force and taught hundreds
19:56
and hundreds of all enforcement officers across
19:58
the state of Georgia and others eights, I
20:01
just think that he's a lawyer. He's
20:03
not a law enforcement officer. I
20:05
think that is It's just a ridiculous
20:07
statement. Uh. Obviously,
20:10
we saw in the video that the
20:14
Brooks was engaged in a fight with the officers.
20:17
They were on the ground. We know that when we're on
20:19
the ground, we have a very high
20:21
likelihood of being hurt or killed.
20:24
It's not the place we want to be. This
20:26
is not a wrestling match. The
20:29
Brooks is able to take a
20:31
non lethal weapon, a taser, away from
20:33
one of the officers and he flees. They
20:36
give chase. He's committed
20:39
to felony obstruction
20:41
of an officer counts, and
20:44
he needs to be held to combo. So they were
20:46
perfectly justified in running behind
20:49
Brooks to to capture him.
20:52
He Brooks turned back to
20:54
the officers and fired the taser.
20:57
And we all know this is
20:59
a third law enforcement agency I've been head
21:01
of, and and every agency
21:03
I've gone to, I've required every
21:06
officer who carries a taser to
21:08
to be tased with it so that you
21:11
understand the incapacitation five
21:14
seconds one thousand one,
21:16
one thousand two, one thousand
21:19
three, one thousand four, one
21:21
thousand five. That's five whole
21:24
seconds that if an officer has hit with
21:26
that taser, that he all of his
21:28
muscles will be locked up, and he'll have the
21:30
inability to move and to
21:32
respond, and yet he is
21:35
still responsible for every weapon
21:37
on his belt. He is. So
21:39
if that officer had been hit, he
21:41
still has a farm on his side,
21:44
and the likelihood of him being stomped
21:46
in the head or having his farm
21:48
taken and used against him was
21:51
a probability, And so
21:53
he did what he needed to
21:55
do, and this was a completely justifiation shooting
21:58
the show that's
22:02
you don't listen. This is the nGy
22:04
way of things. You
22:06
don't need to agree with that
22:10
to agree that it's worth hearing
22:12
that perspective. And I hadn't heard
22:14
any other media outlet. My first thought was
22:17
when I heard this and there was discussion on a cable news
22:19
channel, my first thought was, well, if he taste
22:21
if the if the guy running away had hit
22:24
the cops and taste him, then he could take their gun.
22:26
And I hadn't heard anybody bring that up, and I thought, that's
22:28
the that's the most obvious thing that happens. So
22:30
I'm glad that sheriff mentioned that as a possibility.
22:33
Well, remember that was key to the whole Michael Brown
22:35
thing in Ferguson. He was fighting the cop trying to
22:37
get his guns. So the idea that he was quote
22:39
unquote unarmed UM is
22:42
highly debatable. I know
22:44
where this interview goes because I've heard it. I still haven't
22:47
heard the answer for We brought it up yesterday, and
22:49
I'm not second guesting anybody. I'm just asking,
22:51
um, he wouldn't
22:53
have turned and fired the taser if you hadn't
22:56
been If you wouldn't have started to chase him. I
22:58
don't think so, what would
23:00
the would it be good in the future, tell
23:02
that somebody who's who has committed
23:05
a non violent crime, you think drunk
23:09
driving. Um, just
23:11
let him go and then you go catch him later.
23:13
The Chief addresses that Victor Davis Hansen, we played
23:15
that yesterday. He made some good points on the topic. It's
23:17
a really good question. The Chief will answer that and also
23:20
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23:23
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All right, let's hear more from the Georgia sheriff
24:28
did what he needed to do and this was a completely
24:30
justified shooting. There's
24:33
there's nothing malicious or sadistic
24:35
and the way these officers behaved, and
24:38
it's very unfortunate that the
24:40
law enforcement leaders in a
24:42
state of Georgia have not come out and
24:44
stood together on this case.
24:47
I think it's political and and
24:49
it it's it's sisseless. We're
24:52
sending in the wrong message to our black youth.
24:54
We're telling them that that that
24:57
it's okay, that that they can run
25:00
from the police, they can take a weapon from
25:02
the police, they can fight with the police and
25:06
and and point a weapon at
25:08
the police and expect nothing
25:10
to happen. That is the wrong message to
25:12
saying to black youth that
25:16
miraculously was on CNN.
25:18
I think, wasn't it. Yeah? I recognized
25:20
one of the anchor Att's voice there. It
25:23
haunts my dreams. Uh
25:26
yeah. Well, and again, if we're going
25:28
to talk about policing in an intelligent way, not
25:30
an angry mob tearing down statues in the parkway
25:32
or torching small businesses, often
25:35
minority owned way of talking, but
25:37
seriously discussing it. UM,
25:39
you need to hear that perspective. What
25:42
if the um I haven't heard anybody
25:44
say this, but I'm sure people are saying it. When
25:49
they went to put him in handcuffs, he's thinking,
25:51
well, once I'm in handcuffs, you could get me on the ground and
25:53
kneel on my neck till I'm dead. I've seen it on TV
25:56
a thousand times. That's what the family lawyers
25:58
is saying, is it? And they say it soon
26:00
triggered by having the handcuffs start to Because
26:02
I can understand that it's unfortunate that there
26:05
are people that believe that. I don't believe
26:07
that if I got pulled over and they had to put cups
26:09
on me for some reason, I would think I'm you know, nothing bad.
26:12
Is gonna happen to me. But if you're convinced
26:14
once they have you in handcuffs they might beat you or
26:16
kill you, I can see why you'd run to get
26:19
away from that. Yeah, that that is
26:21
the you know, that's well, that's that's
26:23
the damage bad cops do, making
26:26
the whole all and making it difficult not just
26:28
for all other good cops, but for all of society.
26:31
Because if you have a portion of the of the society
26:34
that believes the cops are out to get you, the
26:36
no, you're not going to get people to comply
26:39
with the cops because they feel like once you get cups
26:41
on me or you can do anything to me. And there
26:43
are absolutely racial issues having to do with
26:45
the various places in the police. On
26:47
the other hand, you have the mainstream media
26:50
which is just loving
26:52
the horror porn of the videos
26:55
and showing them over and over and over
26:57
again and in the same way and again.
27:00
It's not like there is no issue. I'm not saying that
27:02
at all, But if you saw
27:04
a video of a child
27:06
being abducted all
27:08
day, every day, you would
27:11
really start to be paranoid about your children
27:13
getting abducted. Here
27:15
where the guy pulls her into the van and you saw
27:17
it over and over and over again. Heck, yeah, that would have an
27:19
effect on you. Yeah, the the
27:21
horror porn, that's that's a good
27:23
one. That's a good conundrum because you don't
27:25
want you don't want to hide the reality of it from the public
27:27
at all. Um. I
27:31
had read about it and everything. When I saw it, that's
27:33
when I realized, Okay, this guy just murdered somebody
27:35
in the streets. What happened here? I got
27:37
that from watching the video. Um, But
27:41
then you played enough and you start to have the
27:43
opposite effect. I don't know. That's a that's
27:45
a tough one. Yeah, yeah, uh.
27:47
You know the other argument I've heard from cops about this Georgia
27:50
case. Um, and this guy
27:52
was the father of four and it just it's
27:55
awful that he's dead. Well, if you agree
27:58
on that, and if you listen to the conversation nation they've
28:02
had, because they talked for twenty minutes calmly, you
28:04
think, how does this guy end up dead? This seems
28:06
so calm and and easy
28:09
to you know, it just doesn't seem like this could possibly
28:11
know how it ends. It still doesn't seem like
28:13
it could end with a death. Well,
28:16
and the other thing that that bothers
28:19
me about this has I've heard certain activist types
28:21
say, well, look at the point that he
28:24
fought the cops and grab
28:26
the taser and ran away, you got you gotta let
28:28
him go and
28:31
excuse me, what are you going to get more of? Then?
28:33
Yeah, guy thinks I don't want to get arrested.
28:36
I know what I'll do. I'll fight the cops, take their tasters.
28:38
They'll let me go because that's the new policy. If
28:40
I can win this fistfight, they
28:43
let me go, and then at least I got a chance to
28:46
you know, get to another state, hide out whatever. We
28:49
can't have an opt in trial by combat,
28:53
that is you can need to write that somewhere.
28:55
That's the best way to put it anywhere. And
28:59
when the trial combat scene in the Game
29:01
of Thrones, who has had brutal an optional
29:03
trial by conduct combat it's you
29:06
know, I get arrested. If I can take this guy,
29:08
I get to get away and at least, you know, take
29:11
my chances out to this woman or this woman,
29:13
right. Yeah, So that yeah, that that that's
29:15
that doesn't work. That's non a non working
29:17
situation. At the same time, if there were
29:20
no police brutality, and we've received
29:22
a handful of emails from white people who have
29:24
had the speed out of them by the cops,
29:27
I mean, utterly unjustified
29:29
to hear their story. Um,
29:32
if there were no oh
29:35
yeah, if there were no excessive
29:38
force, then you wouldn't have a lot
29:40
of these problems. Although certain absolutely
29:43
a lot of guys don't want to get arrested again because they've
29:45
been arrested several times, and the penalties
29:48
tend to get worse the more you get arrested and convicted,
29:50
So there would still be people trying to fight the cops.
29:52
But again, you know, our point in playing
29:55
it was just to give you a different perspective than you're
29:57
hearing in the mainstream media. And if you're an intelligent, thinking
29:59
person, you've we out of here both. Again, that's a
30:01
Georgia sheriff who's trained lots of
30:03
cops and he was highly disappointed the
30:06
police chief resigned immediately, as
30:09
he says, is a political thing, you
30:11
know, and it might have been the right move if
30:13
she hadn't resigned, maybe the half the city's
30:15
on fire and how
30:18
many billion dollars worth of damage done in Minneapolis.
30:20
I think fifty some uh
30:22
don't a billion. I mean, um uh,
30:25
you know that happens in Atlanta. If she doesn't resign
30:28
immediately and you avoid it, all that ail
30:30
trouble bruning chairs. We'll
30:33
have a live team report from
30:36
the Autonomous Zone in Seattle next
30:54
the Armstrong and Get Show. Here's
31:00
a guy who's lived
31:02
in the area of Seattle now called
31:04
Chaz for years. Whether
31:09
this was an overreaction or not. Whether
31:12
this is an overreaction or not, I don't know. But he wanted
31:14
his voice disguised and everything like that because he's scared
31:16
of the Chazz people. If they recognize his voice,
31:18
maybe you are. Just let's go with this voice
31:21
here. I've lived in chairs
31:23
most of my life anyway,
31:26
this is what he said. For the first time in
31:28
my life in Capitol Hill. I hear gunshots
31:31
every single night, and I've heard people screaming
31:33
every single night outside and uh, they're
31:36
not protest screams. I've heard protests
31:38
screams, but I've also heard like
31:41
skins of terror out there, and I don't know what's
31:43
happening out there. Yeah,
31:45
so I'm I'm having trouble nailing down
31:47
it's actually happening I saw a report on Fox yesterday.
31:49
This is on Fox, and they're
31:52
more interested in the negative aspects of Chadz
31:54
than the other channels are. And they said it's been
31:56
peaceful for for almost entirely peaceful
31:58
for the last thirty six hours. That's what they
32:00
said on Fox. Now, this guy says he's hurting hearing
32:03
gunshots every night. I've heard other people say
32:05
it's a it's a it's a night and day difference,
32:08
literally, and that the daytime is a street
32:10
party and everybody's happy, and at night he gets
32:12
really scary. At night, the dominant
32:14
beasts take control. I've heard people
32:17
say, I've heard reporters say the businesses are
32:19
on board with this, they think it's awesome and
32:21
they're you know, helping out with water and food and that sort
32:23
of stuff. I've also heard other people say they
32:25
they're they're they're doing this because they're scared to death their place
32:28
is gonna get smashed. Yeah, we
32:30
could play clips seventeen. Why not let's
32:33
hit it. Oh, here it comes.
32:36
That went down Sunday night, and it's a clear
32:39
and scary example of what can happen
32:41
when the police do not respond because of a city's
32:44
leadership. It happened at this auto repair
32:46
shop in Seattle, just outside
32:49
about a block down from the occupation
32:51
protest. The owners caught a guy who
32:53
was armed with a knife in the act of stealing money
32:55
and car keys and setting a fire inside
32:57
the shop. They detained him while
33:00
armed themselves, and called Seattle police.
33:02
They never showed up to take the suspect
33:04
into custody, and an angry mob
33:06
from the protest zone broke down the fence
33:09
demanding the suspect be released. Eventually
33:12
the owner complied. Luckily, no
33:14
shots were fired. I
33:17
am very shaken up. I am very
33:19
disappointed in the city's leadership.
33:21
I'm very disappointed in the lack of police
33:24
protection. I'm very disappointed that
33:26
the fire department didn't show up fire
33:28
department police to enforce law
33:31
and order. We saw a case of street justice.
33:33
A group of armed men from the protest
33:36
zone surrounded the thief and arsonist, demanding
33:38
he gave up the cash and keys. When he
33:40
refused, he was beaten by the so called security
33:43
team. On Monday, Seattle Police
33:45
Chief Carmen Best that officers did respond
33:47
to the area, but chose not to engage
33:50
on behalf of the victim business owner or suspect.
33:53
Yeah, that's a heck of a deal there. Well that is the Old
33:55
West, is what that is. Yeah. I
33:58
got a note from listeners who asked to be
34:01
an anonymous or small business
34:03
owners in wacky Washington. They're in
34:05
Seattle. Checked out Chaz Chop.
34:07
They say they really wanted to be called Chop.
34:09
It's written in spray paint everywhere. That's why I'm
34:11
calling it jazz. When
34:14
they were there during the daytime, a lot of tours taking
34:16
pictures, which made one guy mad, yelled about
34:19
it not being Coachella. The atmosphere was tense.
34:22
There's some yelling in that sort of thing. And then this from a Seattle
34:24
p D officer. Um.
34:27
He goes on about the the chaos
34:30
and all Um, the
34:32
warlord in charge of the new Capitol
34:34
Hill autonom his zone, drives a Tesla. He's been
34:37
arrested for drugs, guns, pimping, and
34:39
crimes against children, and is on a federal
34:41
child porn watch list. He
34:43
carries an a K forty seven. He's already started
34:45
abusing people inside w t F.
34:48
You can't make this up. We've been castrated. There's
34:50
no recovering from this. We can't go near
34:53
the zone, have been warned by our department to stay away.
34:55
We're only working for each other. Now. We've
34:57
been in battles where these psychopaths have hit us with
34:59
raw cinder blocks, homemade napalm.
35:02
Even I E. D s multiple injuries,
35:04
and then we gave up the precinct. Now the guns
35:06
are out, this city can burn. I'm working
35:08
on my exit plan right now. The city and state
35:10
hates us and gives us no support. In fact, the
35:12
leaders are actively supporting this very real insurgency.
35:15
Yet all you hear in the media is that they are merely peaceful
35:18
protesters. This is real. This
35:21
is people need to know. This is not about race,
35:23
It's about control. Share it, but
35:25
don't say my name. Wow sounds
35:27
familiar, signed the San Francisco Police Department.
35:30
Well all you, this
35:32
is a known fact. Nobody's disputing this. The police
35:35
precinct closed down, boarded up, and took all their
35:37
equipment out of there. That happened,
35:39
and it's been taken over now. But so the
35:41
chas maniacs, whether
35:43
it was peaceful or not, you can't
35:46
have that. You can you can't
35:48
have police driven out of their precincts and
35:50
saying, just you're not allowed to have a police precinct
35:53
in this part of town. I guess we'll leave.
35:55
Then you need not respond to law
35:57
abiding, taxpaying citizens who need us desperately.
36:00
How about that story, though, See you catch
36:02
somebody breaking into your place, you apprehend them with
36:04
a weapon. I mean, that's a heck of a deal. You're
36:06
in a you're in a battle with a guy with a
36:08
knife and you've got a weapon, and you apprehend him, you
36:12
call the police. They don't ever show up. A
36:14
mob shows up, and you're
36:16
scared of them, legitimately so rightfully,
36:19
so you turn the guy loose. Then
36:22
the mob makes that guy give the money back
36:24
because they're going to Enford. There the police
36:26
force, which
36:29
which we're supposed to be against, right having a police
36:31
force, but they're the police force. Well, and did I
36:33
hear they were gonna beat down a guy for being an arsonist.
36:36
But when anybody understand what irony is,
36:38
when the guy wouldn't give the money back, they beat
36:40
him. Right. But that's
36:42
not the kind of justice we have in America. You go to
36:45
jail, that's the justice in chazz. And
36:47
then there's a there's a you're you're
36:49
appointed, you're appointed a lawyer
36:52
if you can't afford one, and you get a trial, and then
36:54
maybe you know, maybe you didn't do it right.
36:57
But no, that no, this is vigilante, old
36:59
timey wild West justice, and
37:01
that's better than what we've had. Child
37:04
molester with an A K forty seven is the judge.
37:06
Okay, super how's
37:08
your utopia coming along? Does
37:11
this Peter Outer end violently? Your
37:13
guess. We don't have much time. Seattle
37:17
is such a freak show already in the city
37:20
council is a bunch of gutless communists.
37:22
So I say it goes on for a very very
37:24
long time, really armstrong
37:30
and getty
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