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Dem Debate #1 Winners & Losers.  Gary Dietrich Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Dem Debate #1 Winners & Losers. Gary Dietrich Talks to Armstrong & Getty

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Dem Debate #1 Winners & Losers. Gary Dietrich Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Thursday, 27th June 2019
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You go kill debate comes to me,

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Trecero. Why that debate tired

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my butt out? So I was gonna

1:00

have play a clip of one of the candidates talk about

1:03

policy. But you know, I really think that Spanish thing might

1:05

be the headline out of the debate for a

1:07

lot of people. I think it was. It's sure as heck

1:09

a headline. I

1:12

mean, we've gone how many of us? How many of us?

1:14

All of us? I'm talking to you folks when

1:17

you first heard betto jump

1:19

into Spanish, if you heard it, reacted

1:21

just with with anger and

1:23

revulsion. I got nothing against people who speak

1:26

Spanish or or anything like that, of course,

1:28

not who would, but that the

1:30

pandering of it, ess

1:33

of it by lingual societies is a bad idea.

1:35

It's a bad idea. It's

1:37

better to have one languifying

1:40

language, right, because language in

1:42

culture go together to such a great extent

1:45

um. Yeah, so I

1:48

would love to know the polling on that. What percentage

1:50

of America's

1:52

mostly Democrats I'm guessing watching the debate,

1:54

but what percentage of America goes oh god

1:56

when he speaks Spanish? And what percentage of people and I know

1:59

people who would have react with glee? That

2:01

is fantastic. Yeah, I think you're wrong.

2:04

Gary Diedrich is a nonpartisan political

2:07

analyst. Uh. He is the

2:09

founder of I three Inspire inform

2:11

Involved. We'll tell you all about the website.

2:13

It's very useful and Gary joins us.

2:15

Now, Hello, Gary, how are you sir? Hey,

2:17

good morning guys. Did to be with you again, especially

2:20

after I don't know a year and

2:22

a half out probably the most watched

2:25

presidential debate so we're told, you

2:27

know, of this magnitude this

2:30

far out. Ever, really,

2:32

you know, that's that's pretty interesting.

2:35

Uh. We were talking interest.

2:38

We're talking the other day about how, you know, you go back through

2:40

history. Clinton got in in October.

2:43

JFK got in in January of

2:45

the year of the election. That's how different

2:48

things are now. The word in July, with a

2:50

debate and a lot of people watch, driven mostly

2:52

by Trump. You think, well,

2:55

I certainly think it's you know, the big

2:57

dividing line is Trump. There's no question about

2:59

it, guys. I mean that that is, you know, either you're

3:01

four against you. You know, there's hardly any in between,

3:04

and both sides very passionate. But there's

3:06

actually been pulling down on this, guys in recent weeks

3:08

national polls that said, you know, how interested

3:10

are you in this upcoming debate? Is it really gonna

3:13

make any difference to you? Or is this just a waste of time? Believe

3:15

it or not? Over eighty percent of

3:18

people said it would have an impact on their votes.

3:20

Do you think those people got what they wanted?

3:23

Well, you know, I honestly I don't know how you guys felt,

3:25

but I always sort of pleasantly surprised

3:28

by the amount of He's

3:30

thought always just gonna be a flash card drill, you know,

3:33

like you went through a third grade with your addition

3:35

thing. Nobody really that you didn't know anybody.

3:37

Anybody left, it's all over. But I think you got a pretty

3:39

good flavor, you know, of the differences

3:41

in these candidates, both their styles and personalities

3:44

and even to some degree on some of their policy stuff.

3:46

So, you know, I think it was better than

3:49

most people expected tonight. I think it's gonna

3:51

be even more interesting. Of course when we hear Biden

3:53

and Sanders that's so forth on the same

3:55

stage. But uh, last night, some

3:57

of these folks that nobody knew anything of out

4:00

clearly got some maritime that they wouldn't have otherwise.

4:02

All right, what's so, why don't you mention a

4:04

couple of those who do you think had a really good

4:06

night in particular? Well,

4:09

I kind of, but you guys talking about

4:11

condersman Gabbard, and she certainly distinguished

4:13

herself on the stage, certainly military

4:17

credentials okay

4:19

and serious okay,

4:23

Yeah, well you know when it came to I think

4:25

your military experience, guys, it's clearly something

4:27

she wanted to highlight. She did highlight and

4:30

did so quite effectively. I mean when it came

4:32

to things like Afghanistan

4:34

so much, she clearly stood out on

4:36

the stage. You know, Elizabeth one I

4:39

tried a little bit of you guys just said she's

4:41

kind of this unscathed. That is sort

4:43

of surprising. Remember de Blasio, mayor

4:46

de Blogio went after Beadlo Rourke big

4:48

time, but nobody took on Elizabeth

4:50

Warren, which was kind of surprising. You know,

4:53

there was a moment where was

4:55

it um Amy Klobuchar or one

4:58

of the moderate Democrats, asked

5:00

about some of Elizabeth's schemes um

5:03

or Pie in the Sky way left schemes and

5:07

gave kind of a soft answer.

5:09

So yeah, nobody, nobody was

5:11

willing to really put a thumb

5:14

in the eye of a progressive wing. And

5:16

part of the challenge, Bryan, But

5:18

go on, Gary, right right, it's

5:20

part of the challenge that is here, as you guys sall it

5:23

a one percenter if here, what are those candidates

5:25

kind of hanging on right now trying to get

5:27

some trashing. You don't want to look

5:29

like, you know, the the nemesis

5:33

of the clear front runner of the stage so

5:35

it's a delicate balancing act, and I think

5:37

we're going to see more of that, as

5:39

people call it comparison politics,

5:41

the attacks that some would call it, uh

5:44

further down the road. This was the classic

5:47

introduction opportunity last night for many

5:49

of these people, and some did it well,

5:51

some did it better than others. Well, you know, in

5:54

terms of them being introduced to me. I

5:56

know their faces and what they said, but I still don't

5:59

know a lot of their names because the MSNBC didn't

6:01

put placards on their podiums or put their

6:03

name. Somebody would talk, and I think that was a decent point.

6:05

Whoever you were brought an idiotical

6:08

mission, unbelievable. The

6:10

bald guy on the right, uh pointing

6:12

out that the Medicare for All just does not work,

6:15

I thought was interesting on that stage. And then

6:17

the guy from Ohio, um he he

6:19

pointed out that people look at us as a party

6:22

of the coastal elites and that's not gonna work

6:24

for us in a general election. I thought, I thought

6:26

those were pretty two pretty bold things to say

6:29

on that stage. Yeah, when you when

6:31

you really go again and break down the numbers.

6:33

In the end, if people were watching it on NBC

6:36

would have caught this little thing if

6:38

you're I was watching it online. So the thing about

6:40

it is was he dropped some interesting numbers

6:43

in during the commercial breaks, and

6:45

one of them is really something we need

6:47

to keep in mind, and that is three key

6:49

stakes Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania

6:52

one by Trump by a total of seventy

6:54

five thousand votes total

6:57

between the three states. And that's

6:59

why I say, guys, those voices like

7:01

clob Chairs and Congressman Ryans,

7:04

those from those so called rust belt states

7:06

were so important for the Democratic

7:08

Party to hear last night because those

7:10

states, we know, are the ones that chipped

7:13

the balance and savor the president. You

7:15

know, I despise discussing

7:17

identity politics. I feel

7:19

like I'm giving it respect it doesn't

7:22

deserve because it's a dangerous, dangerous trend.

7:25

But I will say that, you

7:27

know, if if they can check some of the boxes the

7:29

Democrats that they like to check ethnicity,

7:32

uh, sex, whatever, and have

7:34

kam Law or Elizabeth or somebody on top

7:36

of the ticket. Tim Ryan from Ohio would

7:39

be a hell of a Veep choice because he'd probably carry Ohio

7:41

because he's a pretty moderate guy. But you

7:43

know two things about Tim Ryan, um

7:46

and and ideology. Number One, Tim Ryan

7:49

is a coast to late It's the coast of Lake Erie,

7:51

granted, but Ohio is on the

7:53

coast. Uh. Secondly, we're

7:56

talking a little bit a bit about Trump

7:58

in and how it's all about Trump and

8:00

he's the energizing force. Put I need to point

8:03

out there are many

8:05

many Republicans, conservatives

8:08

who who are not thrilled

8:11

with Donald j and his manner

8:13

and his verbage and his you

8:15

know, occasional uh sloppiness

8:19

with the truths and the rest of it, and maybe

8:21

making gambles diplomatically

8:24

that might not work out, but this

8:26

country is so wildly ideologically

8:29

divided. Trump seems like a

8:32

way better choice than like Elizabeth

8:34

Warren. You're not going to deliver the country

8:36

to Elizabeth Warren. We will be France

8:39

within six months. And that to

8:41

me is the real headline. Well,

8:44

I think he reads a really important point,

8:46

Joe, And that is all the hypothetical

8:49

maxups right now between any

8:51

of these candidates in the present or just that hypothesis.

8:54

And when you when the look at finally arrived

8:56

at their candidate last time, we all

8:58

know who that was. When Hillary Clinton finally

9:01

was the decided opponents. That's

9:03

when people start, when those dividing lines

9:06

come into full force. I mean to have

9:08

to have sort of a you just sort

9:10

of started your coming sort of this amalgamation candidate.

9:13

Well, if he had little this person and effort, that's

9:15

one thing. When you start breaking down the

9:18

A or B, that's when the dividing

9:20

lines happen, and that's when the things well, for

9:22

Trump's only how could he possibly

9:25

win? Well, that's exactly where he was anyone last

9:27

time. Gary Dietrich is a nonpartisan political

9:29

analyst with I three inspiring form.

9:31

Involved Spanish in our national

9:33

debates has been growing over time. George

9:36

W. Bush didn't Romney did it. It's not only

9:38

a Democrats, but that was by far the

9:40

most Spanish we've ever had in a debate. I understand

9:43

the pandering aspect that you're trying to signal

9:45

to Hispanics, Hey, I'm down with your causes.

9:48

But for people who don't speak Spanish, I gotta

9:50

believe that turns off a lot of people.

9:52

Do you have any idea? Well,

9:55

I think it's uh. I tell your commentaryer

9:57

Jack a little bit of is I was gearing to

9:59

come on your that that. I think that too has become

10:01

a dividing line, hasn't it. Some people think,

10:03

wow, that's really great that they're trying to reach out

10:05

to the growing with Kino community.

10:08

Now I says, other people like, wait a minute, you

10:10

know, we don't. It's not our ask

10:13

language. You know, you know, the debate. So I think

10:15

for somebody, honestly, last night, my sense

10:17

about it was, well, Julian Costro,

10:19

that works, right. I mean, that

10:22

is a language that he's quite familiar. That

10:24

is a language he grew up with. He you know,

10:26

he's some Texas area. That language is

10:28

spoken lot there. For a lot of the other candidates.

10:30

Itself stilted. It didn't look authentic,

10:33

and I think in a debate format in particular,

10:36

it doesn't work as well. When you can drop it into it

10:38

your stump speech in front of a large audience,

10:40

it's easier to do. I think in that kind

10:42

of a format it looked awkward to many of

10:45

those pople And I think at some point, and we might have been

10:47

at that point last night, I mean, if you had much

10:49

more Okay, so the question was in Spanish

10:51

and half your answer was in Spanish. I honestly

10:53

would like to know what the question was and what your

10:56

response was. I have no idea. I mean,

10:58

it just functionally becomes a problem with putting.

11:00

It's aggressively off putting. But well,

11:03

one thing to keep in mind to guys is that Telemundo

11:05

was part of the debate structure. I mean, many

11:08

people may not know that it was NBC and

11:10

all their affiliate networks, and Telemunda

11:12

was part of that, and so one of the moderators was from

11:14

Telemundo, and so I

11:17

think that was an attempt to draw, even

11:19

from a network perspective, to draw in that audience.

11:22

Hey, by the way, we can't we can't leave without saying.

11:24

Every person, like myself, we've ever done

11:27

television has their worst absolute

11:29

nightmare that your mic is going to be left on when

11:31

you leave that shot.

11:33

Oh yeah, we need to play that. We've got

11:35

the whole thing. It was a huge, the biggest technical

11:38

problems I've ever seen in a

11:41

network level. I've seen this guy's in local

11:43

news fairly frequently, but at a network

11:45

level on that stage, do not have

11:48

the monkey flip and the switch in the booth, you know

11:50

what I mean? Was what chump

11:53

Top had to ask what five times could you

11:55

turn off the mics of the former? Could

11:57

you turn the mics off? I'll give you a moment, are

12:00

still on? Could you turn off the that

12:03

was going on there? Jack, That's

12:05

exactly what I'm thinking of myself. Has

12:07

everybody in this nationally televised debate

12:09

boots just gone out for a coke? You

12:12

know what is going on? He called for it,

12:14

He called for it again. Then he finally has to go to break

12:17

during a nationally televised debate so they

12:19

can swiped the switch and it

12:21

interrupted his question, probably maybe

12:24

the touchiest question of the night, about the kids being

12:26

gunned down in school and what do you do about that? And

12:29

he had to repeat it like five times to it to

12:32

the point that it just no longer had any meeting sounds

12:34

of people urinating or hitting the buffet

12:36

or whatever. That was. Uh so, Gary,

12:39

Gary, speaking of broadcast nightmares,

12:42

I want you to know that Michelangelo

12:44

our our our board operator, our brain

12:47

in there. He visibly recoiled

12:50

when he used the term the monkey in

12:52

the booth and uh and you

12:54

ought to be glad. What's your ethnicity, Michael, your

12:57

family ethnicity? You're

12:59

a white obviously, but so you're

13:01

from Hispanic heritage. If your people ever been compared

13:04

on favorable lead to monkeys, because if they

13:06

have, then Gary Dietrich's career is over.

13:09

Oh goodness, you're

13:11

in the clear. You're

13:13

in the clear. Gary, No worries, but thank

13:16

you a lot. Michael Angelo were fortunately with Michael Angel

13:18

at a long time. Friends were Okay, here's the thing

13:21

I was talking about, the peribial I mean, there's

13:23

this joke that rolls around circles like NASA,

13:25

you know, when something goes wrong, like hey,

13:28

we can sit up monkeys can get him into space, have

13:30

them slip the switch. They seem like they're gonna do a better

13:32

job than the human. That is

13:34

great, Gary. How can people learn

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more about I three your organization? Yeah,

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we as many people will know us in the past

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as Citizen Voice. We rebranded

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here in twenty nineteen, which we're excited to do I

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three inspire and form vault. You can just google

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act. We're gonna be doing all the same stuff we've

13:50

done in the past, protecting the vulnerable with safe without

13:52

during disasters. We'll do certainly our election

13:55

stuff coming up next year. We're looking forward to a

13:57

great year or two ahead game. I'm not even gonna

13:59

give you tense seconds. But the Supreme Court says

14:01

federal courts have no role policing

14:03

jerry mandering. Happy about that or not happy

14:07

about that or not well gerry manderings,

14:09

which continues to be a huge political problem.

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Watch for that next year to be a major issue

14:14

in the Senate and congressional campaign. Wow.

14:16

Yeah, the states draw their own districts,

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so it's still a state issue, according to the soups.

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That is big news. Gary Dietricht, Thanks a million, Gary.

14:23

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