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Trecero. Why that debate tired
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my butt out? So I was gonna
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have play a clip of one of the candidates talk about
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policy. But you know, I really think that Spanish thing might
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be the headline out of the debate for a
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lot of people. I think it was. It's sure as heck
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a headline. I
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mean, we've gone how many of us? How many of us?
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All of us? I'm talking to you folks when
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you first heard betto jump
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into Spanish, if you heard it, reacted
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just with with anger and
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revulsion. I got nothing against people who speak
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Spanish or or anything like that, of course,
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not who would, but that the
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pandering of it, ess
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of it by lingual societies is a bad idea.
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It's a bad idea. It's
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better to have one languifying
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language, right, because language in
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culture go together to such a great extent
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um. Yeah, so I
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would love to know the polling on that. What percentage
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of America's
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mostly Democrats I'm guessing watching the debate,
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but what percentage of America goes oh god
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when he speaks Spanish? And what percentage of people and I know
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people who would have react with glee? That
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is fantastic. Yeah, I think you're wrong.
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Gary Diedrich is a nonpartisan political
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analyst. Uh. He is the
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founder of I three Inspire inform
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Involved. We'll tell you all about the website.
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It's very useful and Gary joins us.
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Now, Hello, Gary, how are you sir? Hey,
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good morning guys. Did to be with you again, especially
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after I don't know a year and
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a half out probably the most watched
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presidential debate so we're told, you
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know, of this magnitude this
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far out. Ever, really,
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you know, that's that's pretty interesting.
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Uh. We were talking interest.
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We're talking the other day about how, you know, you go back through
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history. Clinton got in in October.
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JFK got in in January of
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the year of the election. That's how different
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things are now. The word in July, with a
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debate and a lot of people watch, driven mostly
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by Trump. You think, well,
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I certainly think it's you know, the big
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dividing line is Trump. There's no question about
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it, guys. I mean that that is, you know, either you're
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four against you. You know, there's hardly any in between,
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and both sides very passionate. But there's
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actually been pulling down on this, guys in recent weeks
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national polls that said, you know, how interested
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are you in this upcoming debate? Is it really gonna
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make any difference to you? Or is this just a waste of time? Believe
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it or not? Over eighty percent of
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people said it would have an impact on their votes.
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Do you think those people got what they wanted?
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Well, you know, I honestly I don't know how you guys felt,
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but I always sort of pleasantly surprised
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by the amount of He's
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thought always just gonna be a flash card drill, you know,
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like you went through a third grade with your addition
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thing. Nobody really that you didn't know anybody.
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Anybody left, it's all over. But I think you got a pretty
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good flavor, you know, of the differences
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in these candidates, both their styles and personalities
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and even to some degree on some of their policy stuff.
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So, you know, I think it was better than
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most people expected tonight. I think it's gonna
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be even more interesting. Of course when we hear Biden
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and Sanders that's so forth on the same
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stage. But uh, last night, some
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of these folks that nobody knew anything of out
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clearly got some maritime that they wouldn't have otherwise.
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All right, what's so, why don't you mention a
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couple of those who do you think had a really good
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night in particular? Well,
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I kind of, but you guys talking about
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condersman Gabbard, and she certainly distinguished
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herself on the stage, certainly military
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credentials okay
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and serious okay,
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Yeah, well you know when it came to I think
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your military experience, guys, it's clearly something
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she wanted to highlight. She did highlight and
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did so quite effectively. I mean when it came
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to things like Afghanistan
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so much, she clearly stood out on
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the stage. You know, Elizabeth one I
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tried a little bit of you guys just said she's
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kind of this unscathed. That is sort
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of surprising. Remember de Blasio, mayor
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de Blogio went after Beadlo Rourke big
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time, but nobody took on Elizabeth
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Warren, which was kind of surprising. You know,
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there was a moment where was
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it um Amy Klobuchar or one
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of the moderate Democrats, asked
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about some of Elizabeth's schemes um
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or Pie in the Sky way left schemes and
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gave kind of a soft answer.
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So yeah, nobody, nobody was
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willing to really put a thumb
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in the eye of a progressive wing. And
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part of the challenge, Bryan, But
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go on, Gary, right right, it's
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part of the challenge that is here, as you guys sall it
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a one percenter if here, what are those candidates
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kind of hanging on right now trying to get
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some trashing. You don't want to look
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like, you know, the the nemesis
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of the clear front runner of the stage so
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it's a delicate balancing act, and I think
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we're going to see more of that, as
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people call it comparison politics,
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the attacks that some would call it, uh
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further down the road. This was the classic
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introduction opportunity last night for many
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of these people, and some did it well,
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some did it better than others. Well, you know, in
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terms of them being introduced to me. I
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know their faces and what they said, but I still don't
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know a lot of their names because the MSNBC didn't
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put placards on their podiums or put their
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name. Somebody would talk, and I think that was a decent point.
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Whoever you were brought an idiotical
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mission, unbelievable. The
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bald guy on the right, uh pointing
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out that the Medicare for All just does not work,
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I thought was interesting on that stage. And then
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the guy from Ohio, um he he
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pointed out that people look at us as a party
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of the coastal elites and that's not gonna work
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for us in a general election. I thought, I thought
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those were pretty two pretty bold things to say
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on that stage. Yeah, when you when
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you really go again and break down the numbers.
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In the end, if people were watching it on NBC
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would have caught this little thing if
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you're I was watching it online. So the thing about
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it is was he dropped some interesting numbers
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in during the commercial breaks, and
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one of them is really something we need
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to keep in mind, and that is three key
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stakes Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania
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one by Trump by a total of seventy
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five thousand votes total
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between the three states. And that's
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why I say, guys, those voices like
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clob Chairs and Congressman Ryans,
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those from those so called rust belt states
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were so important for the Democratic
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Party to hear last night because those
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states, we know, are the ones that chipped
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the balance and savor the president. You
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know, I despise discussing
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identity politics. I feel
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like I'm giving it respect it doesn't
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deserve because it's a dangerous, dangerous trend.
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But I will say that, you
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know, if if they can check some of the boxes the
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Democrats that they like to check ethnicity,
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uh, sex, whatever, and have
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kam Law or Elizabeth or somebody on top
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of the ticket. Tim Ryan from Ohio would
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be a hell of a Veep choice because he'd probably carry Ohio
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because he's a pretty moderate guy. But you
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know two things about Tim Ryan, um
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and and ideology. Number One, Tim Ryan
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is a coast to late It's the coast of Lake Erie,
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granted, but Ohio is on the
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coast. Uh. Secondly, we're
7:56
talking a little bit a bit about Trump
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in and how it's all about Trump and
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he's the energizing force. Put I need to point
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out there are many
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many Republicans, conservatives
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who who are not thrilled
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with Donald j and his manner
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and his verbage and his you
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know, occasional uh sloppiness
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with the truths and the rest of it, and maybe
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making gambles diplomatically
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that might not work out, but this
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country is so wildly ideologically
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divided. Trump seems like a
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way better choice than like Elizabeth
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Warren. You're not going to deliver the country
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to Elizabeth Warren. We will be France
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within six months. And that to
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me is the real headline. Well,
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I think he reads a really important point,
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Joe, And that is all the hypothetical
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maxups right now between any
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of these candidates in the present or just that hypothesis.
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And when you when the look at finally arrived
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at their candidate last time, we all
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know who that was. When Hillary Clinton finally
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was the decided opponents. That's
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when people start, when those dividing lines
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come into full force. I mean to have
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to have sort of a you just sort
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of started your coming sort of this amalgamation candidate.
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Well, if he had little this person and effort, that's
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one thing. When you start breaking down the
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A or B, that's when the dividing
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lines happen, and that's when the things well, for
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Trump's only how could he possibly
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win? Well, that's exactly where he was anyone last
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time. Gary Dietrich is a nonpartisan political
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analyst with I three inspiring form.
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Involved Spanish in our national
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debates has been growing over time. George
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W. Bush didn't Romney did it. It's not only
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a Democrats, but that was by far the
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most Spanish we've ever had in a debate. I understand
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the pandering aspect that you're trying to signal
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to Hispanics, Hey, I'm down with your causes.
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But for people who don't speak Spanish, I gotta
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believe that turns off a lot of people.
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Do you have any idea? Well,
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I think it's uh. I tell your commentaryer
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Jack a little bit of is I was gearing to
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come on your that that. I think that too has become
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a dividing line, hasn't it. Some people think,
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wow, that's really great that they're trying to reach out
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to the growing with Kino community.
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Now I says, other people like, wait a minute, you
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know, we don't. It's not our ask
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language. You know, you know, the debate. So I think
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for somebody, honestly, last night, my sense
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about it was, well, Julian Costro,
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that works, right. I mean, that
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is a language that he's quite familiar. That
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is a language he grew up with. He you know,
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he's some Texas area. That language is
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spoken lot there. For a lot of the other candidates.
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Itself stilted. It didn't look authentic,
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and I think in a debate format in particular,
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it doesn't work as well. When you can drop it into it
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your stump speech in front of a large audience,
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it's easier to do. I think in that kind
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of a format it looked awkward to many of
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those pople And I think at some point, and we might have been
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at that point last night, I mean, if you had much
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more Okay, so the question was in Spanish
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and half your answer was in Spanish. I honestly
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would like to know what the question was and what your
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response was. I have no idea. I mean,
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it just functionally becomes a problem with putting.
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It's aggressively off putting. But well,
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one thing to keep in mind to guys is that Telemundo
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was part of the debate structure. I mean, many
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people may not know that it was NBC and
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all their affiliate networks, and Telemunda
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was part of that, and so one of the moderators was from
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Telemundo, and so I
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think that was an attempt to draw, even
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from a network perspective, to draw in that audience.
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Hey, by the way, we can't we can't leave without saying.
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Every person, like myself, we've ever done
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television has their worst absolute
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nightmare that your mic is going to be left on when
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you leave that shot.
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Oh yeah, we need to play that. We've got
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the whole thing. It was a huge, the biggest technical
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problems I've ever seen in a
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network level. I've seen this guy's in local
11:43
news fairly frequently, but at a network
11:45
level on that stage, do not have
11:48
the monkey flip and the switch in the booth, you know
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what I mean? Was what chump
11:53
Top had to ask what five times could you
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turn off the mics of the former? Could
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you turn the mics off? I'll give you a moment, are
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still on? Could you turn off the that
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was going on there? Jack, That's
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exactly what I'm thinking of myself. Has
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everybody in this nationally televised debate
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boots just gone out for a coke? You
12:12
know what is going on? He called for it,
12:14
He called for it again. Then he finally has to go to break
12:17
during a nationally televised debate so they
12:19
can swiped the switch and it
12:21
interrupted his question, probably maybe
12:24
the touchiest question of the night, about the kids being
12:26
gunned down in school and what do you do about that? And
12:29
he had to repeat it like five times to it to
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the point that it just no longer had any meeting sounds
12:34
of people urinating or hitting the buffet
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or whatever. That was. Uh so, Gary,
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Gary, speaking of broadcast nightmares,
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I want you to know that Michelangelo
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our our our board operator, our brain
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in there. He visibly recoiled
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when he used the term the monkey in
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the booth and uh and you
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ought to be glad. What's your ethnicity, Michael, your
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family ethnicity? You're
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a white obviously, but so you're
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from Hispanic heritage. If your people ever been compared
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on favorable lead to monkeys, because if they
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have, then Gary Dietrich's career is over.
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Oh goodness, you're
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in the clear. You're
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in the clear. Gary, No worries, but thank
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you a lot. Michael Angelo were fortunately with Michael Angel
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at a long time. Friends were Okay, here's the thing
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I was talking about, the peribial I mean, there's
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this joke that rolls around circles like NASA,
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you know, when something goes wrong, like hey,
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we can sit up monkeys can get him into space, have
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them slip the switch. They seem like they're gonna do a better
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job than the human. That is
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great, Gary. How can people learn
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more about I three your organization? Yeah,
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we as many people will know us in the past
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as Citizen Voice. We rebranded
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here in twenty nineteen, which we're excited to do I
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three inspire and form vault. You can just google
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act. We're gonna be doing all the same stuff we've
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done in the past, protecting the vulnerable with safe without
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during disasters. We'll do certainly our election
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stuff coming up next year. We're looking forward to a
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great year or two ahead game. I'm not even gonna
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give you tense seconds. But the Supreme Court says
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federal courts have no role policing
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jerry mandering. Happy about that or not happy
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about that or not well gerry manderings,
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which continues to be a huge political problem.
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Watch for that next year to be a major issue
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in the Senate and congressional campaign. Wow.
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Yeah, the states draw their own districts,
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so it's still a state issue, according to the soups.
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That is big news. Gary Dietricht, Thanks a million, Gary.
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