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Armstrong and Getty Show. The
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greatest geopolitical threat to the United States right
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now, Congressman Delaney, Well, the biggest geopolitical
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challenge is China, But geopolitical
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threat remins nuclear weapons,
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right So those are you know that? Got your question? Totally?
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Get it? Go ahead, Governorsley. The biggest threat
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to the security United States is Donald
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Trump, and there's no grass
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greatest geo political threat. The greatest
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threat that we face is the fact that we were
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at a greater risk of nuclear war today than
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ever before in history. Center
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threats economic threat, China. But our
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major threat right now is what's going on in
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the Mid East with Iran. If we don't get trying
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to keep it at cleer, slimmer than what
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we've been going here. One or two existential
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threat is climate change. We have to confront it before
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it's too late. Center one, Climate
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Change Center Booker, Nuclear Proliferation
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and Climate Change Secretary Castra China,
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and Climate Change Congressman Ryan
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China. Without a question, they're wiping
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us around the world economically, and
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Mr Mayor Russia because
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they're trying to undermine our democracy and they've been
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doing a pretty damn good job of that. We need
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to stop them. But the Trump
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blasts got the biggest cheer of the night. People were
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just hankering for that. I'm surprised more candidates
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didn't take the easy because we've been in front
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of crowds like that where we can say something mean about
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Nancy Pelosian, people are gonna how with applause
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or laughter or something. I mean, it's just the lowest
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of low hanging fruit, and very few people for
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it. Sometimes the cheapest pleasures of the finest
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pleasures. I'd like to congratulate
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Corey Booker for almost getting through nuclear
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proliferation. Tom
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Rogan is a commentary writer for The Washington
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Examiner. He writes on foreign policy,
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but is certainly up on the issues of the
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day, and Tom joins us. Now, Tom, how are you, sir?
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With you? Thanks for having me. It's our pleasure. We're
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both great fans of your contributions to Special
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Report with Brett Bear. Terrific job.
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Oh well, thank you very much. I really appreciate that.
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So listen, I know your your most recent piece
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in the Washington Examiner is about Elizabeth
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Warren appearing to be everything
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she is, which is intelligent, well informed,
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forceful. I can't standard policies,
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but she's an impressive plan. Um,
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But you think that's actually good news for the president?
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Well, I do. I think when we
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think about what will actually decide
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this election, which is the the general
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election race between two candidates
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and their running mates, I think, in terms
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of Elizabeth Warren's policy
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positions and President Trump's
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economy, his position on
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a lot of foreign policy issues China is the
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most dominant one. He is in a
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better place to be able to use persuade
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people who have not yet made their minds
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up at that block of the center that
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he would his presidency
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for another four years would be preferable to hers for
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a new four years. I don't think it would be terribly
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difficult for him to make the argument that her policies
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would be an enormous gamble economically,
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chuck off the economy, increase unemployment,
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that sort of thing. Speaking of low hanging fruit,
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I think that is yeah.
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And I think the policy
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detail here of what she's proposing,
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which is, uh,
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you know, really far further to the left than
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in a clearly objective sense than the campaign
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would like to admit. And we take for example,
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a supporting Senator Sanders Bernie
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Sanders healthcare plan, which
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would deny the right of individual
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choice, which Democrats tend
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to talk a lot about. That would be something that President
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Trump we could expect to go on have
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plan to quite dramatically
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increase taxes and regulation
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in the economy, which, in
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an environment of hyper competitiveness
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around the world, would seem
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to be a poor choice. And it's
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not simply that these are poor policy decisions.
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On the point of the strong economy
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allows President Trump to say, why take
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a gamble on these divergent approaches
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to governing the economy when my economy
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is doing so so well? And the
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incumbent factor, of course, is that the economy needs
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to remain healthy into
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into late next year. Congressman
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Ryan talking about, Look, we've got a perception problem
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where people think we're, you know, a coastal
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party of ivy leaguers. We need
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to get back to you know, Midwestern working
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class roots. That sort of attitude has got
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to scare Trump. It
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did, it does. But you know, the
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advantage for President Trump's that the Democratic
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primary process, and the best I think evidence
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for this is Ensley's comment that
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Trump is the greatest collector to the world, secure
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to American security. The
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primary basis so far to the left and so driven
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by the belief that
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Trump is an admiration who can be defeated
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by a pretty far left candidate
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that I I just don't think, you know, Ryan
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Delaney, I don't think they get near the
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denomination, and so yes, on
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paper, it would be a serious concern for
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the president. I think it's a concern with
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Joe Biden. Um. But again that
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the pressures from the left and the Democratic Party
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in some way are an equalizing force,
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uh, you know for President Trump. Tom
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Rogan, commentary writer for The Washington Examiner.
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I was just looking at your Biotom that
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you're a U. S U. S. Citizen with a British accent.
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He likes William Shakespeare, Larry David
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and Harald Pilkington. You have no
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idea, how my heart, Carl
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Pilkington. That's fabulous, man. You make me want
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to run back and listen to the old Ricky Gervais
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podcasts. I know they're all on
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YouTube, so that's what I do and
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I'm having a bad day. That's
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such a good idea. What do you think of all the Spanish
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speaking last night? That was a landmark
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event, really the amount of Spanish in a national
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debate. How many people like that? How many
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people does that turn off in a general election
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strategy? Well,
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I think I think the concern here and we will be
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saw. You know, with President Trump does actually
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better with Hispanic American US than
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than I think people expect around as
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I understand that, Uh, certainly
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there's an opportunity for conservatives to boost
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that in the future. I think the concern
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for Democrats is that if
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you do this in a way that seems
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disingenuous, seems that you
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are just offering platitudes to people
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rather than policy prescriptions. And again
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we think about the growth
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of employment at the
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minority level of the minority amounts,
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which is unprecedented
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quite frankly under the current economy. But
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that is something President Trump can point to what
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makes it life better words or action. And
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secondly, I think there is a danger that
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the general election voters will
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regard this as the same kind of thing that
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turn't that allowed people to vote
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for President Trump even if they didn't
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like him, because they thought, well, at least he doesn't
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care about political correctness. I think political
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correctness is so anathema to
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a lot of Americans outside you know,
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the major metropolitan
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areas that frankly, it's
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a big danger. It seems it seemed
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too contrived, it seemed too disingenuous,
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And in that I think it was it's a political opportunity
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for the President Trump well, in that attitude
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towards political correctness describes
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a lot of people on the left as well. I think there's just
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a growing awareness that it is obnoxious and
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suffocating in the rest of it. Tom
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Listen, it's an obvious question, but what the heck gets fund
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to bandy about? Who do you think really
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gained some steam last night?
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In particular, I
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think I think Elizabeth Warren for
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the reason that she held
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her own and maintain
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momentum, and I think, you know, frankly,
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it's it's it's looking. I think
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like Joe Biden and Bernie
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Sanders running into the there's
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the three fronts interesting. Tom
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Rogan, commentary writer for the Washington Examiner.
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Tom were about out of time. Enjoyed the chat
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very much. I hope we can do it again. Yes,
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it was great, Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate our
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pleasure. Well done. Thanks. I think Mayor Pete would
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like to argue with that and maybe put forth tonight an
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opportunity to be in a in a group of four
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that stand out from everybody else. But we'll see. Um
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we got this text. Please give Rachel Maddow some
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credit for being the best moderator. I think she was the
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best of the bunch last night. I think Rachel
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Maddow Brett Bear together
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would be pretty good to cover most sides of
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it. That would be good. I
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would she would be much more aggressively
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progressive than he would be aggressively uh
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conservative, but they could probably work
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that out. Yeah. I think she's a very bright
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and reasonable person. She just you know, she was
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also the most forceful person there and
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being willing to shut people up. No, no, you stop,
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you know, I mean she's the only one willing to do
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that. Ye, what's coming up in your news? Marshal
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Spray Court closing out this session with decisions
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on two major cases. One of
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the Democratic candidates on the death
9:25
penalty for people who clog up the left lane. Yet
9:28
not yet the Court every year
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for the last twenty seven years, we want cruel
9:32
and unusual. Lot
9:34
of the Democratic candidates made a lot of
9:36
noise at last night's debate, and we've
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got more proof Amazon is taking
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over the world. So Mayor
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Pete and granted a
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lot of the talking head stuff that gets thrown
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around with great enthusiasm.
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You know, days later it's forgotten. But
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the consensus that Mayor Pete really looked
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weak in dealing with this cop crisis
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there in his hometown. It's pretty widespread.
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I'm not sure if the loom is an off his rose. Well,
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we'll find out. Yeah, the I remember all
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the pundits saying Elizabeth Warren's gonna get
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it from all sides last night. She didn't get one
10:07
arrow her way. If you pardon the express how we're love
10:10
Armstrong and Getty
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when you're ready to ride Metro, we want
10:16
you to know we're ready for you. Here
10:18
are just a few of the people at Metro to tell
10:20
you how we're doing our part to keep riders
10:22
safe. We're cleaning like noble before
10:24
we half build it greatly. You've
10:27
found halfs out of town of stations Metro
10:30
no mask, no Metro need
10:32
one. We have a few extras at Metro.
10:35
We're doing our part to keep the DC area
10:37
moving. Find out more at well mata dot com,
10:39
slash doing our part
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