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Pressures and Equalizing Forces.  Tom Rogan Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Pressures and Equalizing Forces. Tom Rogan Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Released Thursday, 27th June 2019
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Pressures and Equalizing Forces.  Tom Rogan Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Pressures and Equalizing Forces. Tom Rogan Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Pressures and Equalizing Forces.  Tom Rogan Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Pressures and Equalizing Forces. Tom Rogan Talks to Armstrong & Getty

Thursday, 27th June 2019
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Armstrong and Getty Show. The

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greatest geopolitical threat to the United States right

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now, Congressman Delaney, Well, the biggest geopolitical

0:44

challenge is China, But geopolitical

0:47

threat remins nuclear weapons,

0:49

right So those are you know that? Got your question? Totally?

0:52

Get it? Go ahead, Governorsley. The biggest threat

0:54

to the security United States is Donald

0:56

Trump, and there's no grass

1:02

greatest geo political threat. The greatest

1:05

threat that we face is the fact that we were

1:07

at a greater risk of nuclear war today than

1:09

ever before in history. Center

1:12

threats economic threat, China. But our

1:14

major threat right now is what's going on in

1:16

the Mid East with Iran. If we don't get trying

1:19

to keep it at cleer, slimmer than what

1:21

we've been going here. One or two existential

1:23

threat is climate change. We have to confront it before

1:25

it's too late. Center one, Climate

1:27

Change Center Booker, Nuclear Proliferation

1:29

and Climate Change Secretary Castra China,

1:33

and Climate Change Congressman Ryan

1:35

China. Without a question, they're wiping

1:38

us around the world economically, and

1:40

Mr Mayor Russia because

1:42

they're trying to undermine our democracy and they've been

1:44

doing a pretty damn good job of that. We need

1:47

to stop them. But the Trump

1:49

blasts got the biggest cheer of the night. People were

1:51

just hankering for that. I'm surprised more candidates

1:53

didn't take the easy because we've been in front

1:56

of crowds like that where we can say something mean about

1:58

Nancy Pelosian, people are gonna how with applause

2:00

or laughter or something. I mean, it's just the lowest

2:02

of low hanging fruit, and very few people for

2:05

it. Sometimes the cheapest pleasures of the finest

2:07

pleasures. I'd like to congratulate

2:10

Corey Booker for almost getting through nuclear

2:12

proliferation. Tom

2:16

Rogan is a commentary writer for The Washington

2:18

Examiner. He writes on foreign policy,

2:21

but is certainly up on the issues of the

2:23

day, and Tom joins us. Now, Tom, how are you, sir?

2:26

With you? Thanks for having me. It's our pleasure. We're

2:28

both great fans of your contributions to Special

2:30

Report with Brett Bear. Terrific job.

2:33

Oh well, thank you very much. I really appreciate that.

2:35

So listen, I know your your most recent piece

2:38

in the Washington Examiner is about Elizabeth

2:40

Warren appearing to be everything

2:42

she is, which is intelligent, well informed,

2:45

forceful. I can't standard policies,

2:47

but she's an impressive plan. Um,

2:50

But you think that's actually good news for the president?

2:53

Well, I do. I think when we

2:55

think about what will actually decide

2:58

this election, which is the the general

3:00

election race between two candidates

3:02

and their running mates, I think, in terms

3:05

of Elizabeth Warren's policy

3:07

positions and President Trump's

3:09

economy, his position on

3:12

a lot of foreign policy issues China is the

3:14

most dominant one. He is in a

3:16

better place to be able to use persuade

3:18

people who have not yet made their minds

3:20

up at that block of the center that

3:23

he would his presidency

3:25

for another four years would be preferable to hers for

3:28

a new four years. I don't think it would be terribly

3:30

difficult for him to make the argument that her policies

3:33

would be an enormous gamble economically,

3:36

chuck off the economy, increase unemployment,

3:38

that sort of thing. Speaking of low hanging fruit,

3:41

I think that is yeah.

3:43

And I think the policy

3:46

detail here of what she's proposing,

3:48

which is, uh,

3:50

you know, really far further to the left than

3:54

in a clearly objective sense than the campaign

3:56

would like to admit. And we take for example,

3:59

a supporting Senator Sanders Bernie

4:01

Sanders healthcare plan, which

4:03

would deny the right of individual

4:06

choice, which Democrats tend

4:08

to talk a lot about. That would be something that President

4:10

Trump we could expect to go on have

4:12

plan to quite dramatically

4:14

increase taxes and regulation

4:16

in the economy, which, in

4:18

an environment of hyper competitiveness

4:21

around the world, would seem

4:23

to be a poor choice. And it's

4:25

not simply that these are poor policy decisions.

4:30

On the point of the strong economy

4:33

allows President Trump to say, why take

4:35

a gamble on these divergent approaches

4:38

to governing the economy when my economy

4:40

is doing so so well? And the

4:42

incumbent factor, of course, is that the economy needs

4:45

to remain healthy into

4:48

into late next year. Congressman

4:50

Ryan talking about, Look, we've got a perception problem

4:53

where people think we're, you know, a coastal

4:55

party of ivy leaguers. We need

4:57

to get back to you know, Midwestern working

4:59

class roots. That sort of attitude has got

5:01

to scare Trump. It

5:04

did, it does. But you know, the

5:06

advantage for President Trump's that the Democratic

5:09

primary process, and the best I think evidence

5:11

for this is Ensley's comment that

5:13

Trump is the greatest collector to the world, secure

5:16

to American security. The

5:18

primary basis so far to the left and so driven

5:21

by the belief that

5:23

Trump is an admiration who can be defeated

5:25

by a pretty far left candidate

5:28

that I I just don't think, you know, Ryan

5:31

Delaney, I don't think they get near the

5:34

denomination, and so yes, on

5:36

paper, it would be a serious concern for

5:38

the president. I think it's a concern with

5:40

Joe Biden. Um. But again that

5:42

the pressures from the left and the Democratic Party

5:45

in some way are an equalizing force,

5:47

uh, you know for President Trump. Tom

5:50

Rogan, commentary writer for The Washington Examiner.

5:52

I was just looking at your Biotom that

5:54

you're a U. S U. S. Citizen with a British accent.

5:57

He likes William Shakespeare, Larry David

5:59

and Harald Pilkington. You have no

6:02

idea, how my heart, Carl

6:05

Pilkington. That's fabulous, man. You make me want

6:07

to run back and listen to the old Ricky Gervais

6:09

podcasts. I know they're all on

6:11

YouTube, so that's what I do and

6:14

I'm having a bad day. That's

6:16

such a good idea. What do you think of all the Spanish

6:18

speaking last night? That was a landmark

6:21

event, really the amount of Spanish in a national

6:23

debate. How many people like that? How many

6:25

people does that turn off in a general election

6:28

strategy? Well,

6:30

I think I think the concern here and we will be

6:32

saw. You know, with President Trump does actually

6:34

better with Hispanic American US than

6:37

than I think people expect around as

6:40

I understand that, Uh, certainly

6:42

there's an opportunity for conservatives to boost

6:44

that in the future. I think the concern

6:46

for Democrats is that if

6:49

you do this in a way that seems

6:51

disingenuous, seems that you

6:53

are just offering platitudes to people

6:56

rather than policy prescriptions. And again

6:58

we think about the growth

7:00

of employment at the

7:02

minority level of the minority amounts,

7:05

which is unprecedented

7:07

quite frankly under the current economy. But

7:09

that is something President Trump can point to what

7:12

makes it life better words or action. And

7:14

secondly, I think there is a danger that

7:16

the general election voters will

7:18

regard this as the same kind of thing that

7:21

turn't that allowed people to vote

7:23

for President Trump even if they didn't

7:25

like him, because they thought, well, at least he doesn't

7:27

care about political correctness. I think political

7:29

correctness is so anathema to

7:31

a lot of Americans outside you know,

7:33

the major metropolitan

7:36

areas that frankly, it's

7:38

a big danger. It seems it seemed

7:40

too contrived, it seemed too disingenuous,

7:42

And in that I think it was it's a political opportunity

7:44

for the President Trump well, in that attitude

7:46

towards political correctness describes

7:49

a lot of people on the left as well. I think there's just

7:51

a growing awareness that it is obnoxious and

7:53

suffocating in the rest of it. Tom

7:56

Listen, it's an obvious question, but what the heck gets fund

7:58

to bandy about? Who do you think really

8:00

gained some steam last night?

8:02

In particular, I

8:04

think I think Elizabeth Warren for

8:06

the reason that she held

8:09

her own and maintain

8:12

momentum, and I think, you know, frankly,

8:14

it's it's it's looking. I think

8:16

like Joe Biden and Bernie

8:19

Sanders running into the there's

8:21

the three fronts interesting. Tom

8:23

Rogan, commentary writer for the Washington Examiner.

8:26

Tom were about out of time. Enjoyed the chat

8:28

very much. I hope we can do it again. Yes,

8:30

it was great, Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate our

8:33

pleasure. Well done. Thanks. I think Mayor Pete would

8:35

like to argue with that and maybe put forth tonight an

8:37

opportunity to be in a in a group of four

8:39

that stand out from everybody else. But we'll see. Um

8:42

we got this text. Please give Rachel Maddow some

8:44

credit for being the best moderator. I think she was the

8:46

best of the bunch last night. I think Rachel

8:49

Maddow Brett Bear together

8:51

would be pretty good to cover most sides of

8:53

it. That would be good. I

8:55

would she would be much more aggressively

8:57

progressive than he would be aggressively uh

9:01

conservative, but they could probably work

9:03

that out. Yeah. I think she's a very bright

9:06

and reasonable person. She just you know, she was

9:10

also the most forceful person there and

9:12

being willing to shut people up. No, no, you stop,

9:14

you know, I mean she's the only one willing to do

9:16

that. Ye, what's coming up in your news? Marshal

9:19

Spray Court closing out this session with decisions

9:21

on two major cases. One of

9:23

the Democratic candidates on the death

9:25

penalty for people who clog up the left lane. Yet

9:28

not yet the Court every year

9:30

for the last twenty seven years, we want cruel

9:32

and unusual. Lot

9:34

of the Democratic candidates made a lot of

9:36

noise at last night's debate, and we've

9:38

got more proof Amazon is taking

9:40

over the world. So Mayor

9:43

Pete and granted a

9:45

lot of the talking head stuff that gets thrown

9:47

around with great enthusiasm.

9:49

You know, days later it's forgotten. But

9:52

the consensus that Mayor Pete really looked

9:54

weak in dealing with this cop crisis

9:56

there in his hometown. It's pretty widespread.

9:59

I'm not sure if the loom is an off his rose. Well,

10:01

we'll find out. Yeah, the I remember all

10:03

the pundits saying Elizabeth Warren's gonna get

10:05

it from all sides last night. She didn't get one

10:07

arrow her way. If you pardon the express how we're love

10:10

Armstrong and Getty

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when you're ready to ride Metro, we want

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you to know we're ready for you. Here

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are just a few of the people at Metro to tell

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safe. We're cleaning like noble before

10:24

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10:32

one. We have a few extras at Metro.

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We're doing our part to keep the DC area

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slash doing our part

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