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From the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio
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at the George Washington Broadcast Center,
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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
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Armstrong and Getty show.
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At a hospital in Queens, New York. N
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YPD officers salute in the dignified
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transfer of the body of their fellow officer,
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Jonathan Diller. The thirty one year old
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was shot and killed in the line of duty, reportedly
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leaving behind a one year old son.
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This family upstairs, young
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wife who's devastated.
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Yet another tragic killing of a cop.
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The rates of cop killings has risen
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significantly in the last several years
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and continues to rise.
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It's absolutely horrible.
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That's story out of New York City getting
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a fair amount of attention, mostly you
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know, to the right of center. But it should
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be not only because it's utterly but
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because it's emblematicus so many things that have
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gone terribly wrong with justice, the
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justice system in blue cities. Let's
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roll on with Brian Yennis. One more clip
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there, Michael seventy one.
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The NYPD says, just before six
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pm, Diller and his partner responded
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to a vehicle illegally stopped at a bus
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stop. The officers asked those inside
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numerous times to get out, and they refused
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before one of the suspects shot Diller, fatally
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hitting him in the torso under his bulletproof
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vest. Fox has learned the suspected
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shooter is thirty four year old Guy Rivera.
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He was shot by police but is expected to
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survive. The New York Post reports Rivera
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has twenty one prior arrests. The
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driver, forty one year old Lindy Jones,
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reportedly has fourteen prior
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arrests and was free on bail on a
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gun charge.
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How do you have more than twenty prior
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arrests and you are out and about
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you know what?
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You need?
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More gun laws? Yeah,
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I absolutely want to get to that. So this guy
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was arrested twenty one times,
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he and the driver with gun charges, and
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you know, we'll skip to the end. The left is
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constantly asking for more gun
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laws, and then when somebody not
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only violates them, but over and over
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again, and it's clearly a menace to society
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and a predator, they in the name
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of restorative justice or DEI or
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whatever, say you can't prosecute him
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because of systemic racism. How have
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those two stories not come together?
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The every time anybody is shot anywhere,
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more gun laws, and the when we arrest
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people, you don't prosecute them. How have those two
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stories not butted up against each other in
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like reality? Well they have in reality. How
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have they not in a conversation?
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And it's not like guys like
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this violate gun laws like
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hunter Biden did he lied on a form.
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No, they point their guns at people
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and pull the trigger. And then the same people
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who scream for more gun laws say you can't
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prosecute him, do not prosecute
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him, or we'll just turn him loose.
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And the problem has gotten so agree
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so obvious.
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You have a guy like Eric Adams,
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who's a lefty and I think a
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bit of adult honestly, but
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he was a cop and he
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understands the reality of the streets.
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And here he is in seventy two.
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We've always had a problem with recidivism
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with a small number of people.
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It's always been a problem, and we
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never really zeroed in on it as
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much as we should have.
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Roll on with seventy four, Michael, there guys
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no longer fear the police.
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They feel emboldened to
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do whatever they want.
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Yeah, well, there's a really quick
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way to deal with recidivism, don't
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let him.
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Out right exactly?
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So this guy, I thought it was interesting. In Brian
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Yennis of Fox News Report, he mentioned
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he'd been arrested
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twenty one times. Were
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there any convictions? Was
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he ever tried? Was he ever charged?
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Somebody who's been arrested going on a couple
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of times has told
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you exactly who he.
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Is, well, right, and is any copple will tell
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you to get arrested twenties sometimes
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how many crimes did you commit to get arrested?
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Twenty sometimes hundreds? Right?
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Right?
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And Mayor Adams, I think he nailed it.
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It's a recidivism thing. It's a few really
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bad apples commit a lot of the
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crimes. And any sane society
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would say, as soon as we identify these people
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and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they are guilty of
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what they're being charged of, we remove
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them from society. And somebody
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saying, oh, no, historically speaking, blah
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blah blah, that don't enter into it,
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and so save that for your textbooks
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or if you want to reform the schools or
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teach the little kids or something, that's fine.
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But this guy has violated the
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laws of God. And man and must be punished
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before he hurts anybody else.
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From roughly the mid seventies to the mid
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nineties, we decided that, yes, there
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is a certain percentage of people that,
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for whatever reason, are going to be criminals, and if we
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keep them locked up, we'll all be
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pretty safe and our stuff won't get stolen. And
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then we decided we didn't. But as
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a society, I guess decided
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that there are too many people in jail and it must be unfair.
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We must be doing something unfair, or they
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can be.
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It's disproportionately this sort of person
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or that sort of person that proves it's unjust.
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Where it can be fixed or something.
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Anyway, Now we let people commit crimes,
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including really bad ones, over and
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over and over again.
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It's nuts. What society
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does this? Yeah, I would
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agree completely. Obviously we'll
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give the final note, which may not be the
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final note to Djoecimaldi, who's a cop
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who posted the following
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editorial online seventy six.
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Michael Well He mentions
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up he mentioned I'm sorry. He mentions that
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the guy's been arrested
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over and over again, and the woke criminal justice system
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is a revolving door and these guys
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just come in and out. They have absolutely no fear
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of significant punishment. They
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may be predatory, they may be ugly, but they're
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smart. They understand the atmosphere,
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the environment
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in which they operate as criminals.
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Anyway, we'll continue with seventy six because
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you know what.
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Eighty five percent of cop
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killers have been arrested before. Seventy
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one percent of them are convicted
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felons.
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That's why we need to.
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Stop the revolving to our criminal justice system
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to combat the war on cops.
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It's also why we need to pass.
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The Protecting servag so that it'll make
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it a federal crime to assault the police officer,
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and it'll.
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Take it out of the hands of these.
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Rogue DA's and activist judges. This
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officer's life was taken because
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the system failed him, and
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there's blood on all of their hands for it.
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Yeah, you know, it's horrible. It happens
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to cops, It happens to lots of people. It shouldn't
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happen to anybody when when,
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as you say, somebody has
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gone out and demonstrated to the world this is the
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kind of person I am, and then
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we don't lock them up after they've demonstrated
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that here's a questionable
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constitution idea for you. When
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a state or a municipality violates
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somebody's civil rights, their federal
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rights guaranteed by the Constitution, the Department
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of Justice, which is highly politicized, can
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and should step in and say, whatever,
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state of Mississippi you're discriminating,
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you're discriminating against black kids,
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or you know, a
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state of Nevada, you
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took away this guy's right to free speech during
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COVID or whatever.
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That's the rule of the federal government.
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The government exists to protect your rights,
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not to give you money to protect your rights. But anyway,
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if if someone is victimized,
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and we focus on murder, of course, because it's
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the ultimate victimization, but if you've
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ever been seriously hurt
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or even just terrified in a crime,
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that stays with you for life.
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Oh yeah, I've told the story so many
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times about the homeless guy who changed
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my kid's view of being
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out and about in public for the rest of their life and
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mine to a certain extent. And that guy had been arrested
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multiple times for a
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variety of very violent things
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and shipped around the country and always let go.
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But I think a lot of us unconsciously
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have the attitude that if somebody is shot and survived,
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then that that's not nearly as big a deal. But
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can you imagine you will feel
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that pain. Your organs
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will not work right, you will ache,
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you will hurt, you will wake up with night terrors
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for the rest of your days. Okay, so
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this is not trivial stuff
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at all, But
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why can't if I
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am victimized in that way.
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And the woke DA be.
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It in LA or Philadelphia or
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Chicago or in this case New York, that
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would be Alvin Bragg. By the way, perhaps you've
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heard the name before the woke DA turns
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that person loose over and over again.
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Is there a constitutional means
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by which the federal government can step
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in and say, no, your right
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to be protected by the government, and I've got to come up
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with a specific wording that would make sense. But your
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rights, your civil rights are being violated.
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The government has let you down so severely
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that yes, you are comparable to that
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little kid in Mississippi or that person
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who's free speech rights were trampled. My
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right to not be killed or grievously
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injured, I would put up pretty
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high on my list of rights.
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Damn it if you'd only actually gone to law school,
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but I would.
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Yeah, I'm surprised.
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There must be a reason why that can't happen, but it
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certainly makes sense if
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somebody's not being able to
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vote and the federal government steps
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in to make sure they gain. Well, if somebody's
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not being able to avoid being
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knocked on the head and having the stuff stolen
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because the government won't stop it.
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Yeah, Yeah, it's difficult to find
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a constitutional basis to prosecute
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a sin of omission rights,
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as the Border States can tell you right now.
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When the government doesn't do its job,
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it gets a little complicated constitutionally
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speaking.
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That was the example I was actually thinking of, because they've demonstrated
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over and over and over again their lack of willingness
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to do anything. Coming
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up, I've got two stories
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related to celebrities that
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are very interesting about
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just life in general, Doctor Dre and
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Disney Child stars, both of them.
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Both these stories I think you'll find interesting.
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Stay tuned.
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He I
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can't keep it home with this fun I was listening to this
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just the other day with my son in my truck, which has awesome
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base.
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Uh.
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Doctor Dray with Snoop there so the Dre
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album that made him super famous on
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his own after NWA
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came out thirty two years
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ago something like that.
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Wow, all right, anyway, doctor Dre is
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now older and uh he
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I didn't realize he had aneurysm in
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a series of strokes. But
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it says here he asks his doctor is there anything
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I could have done to avoid this? And
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he says basically, they said no. And
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I had no idea that I had high blood pressure
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or anything like that. I lift weights, I
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run, I do everything I can to keep myself healthy.
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But it turns out high blood pressure is not
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good for you. Okay, well all
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right, thanks for that. ToIP, How are you a billionaire
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and a doctor, and that's
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right to yourself?
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You never check your blood pressure?
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You say, I can think of one thing
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you could have done.
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How are you a billionaire in your fifties and you have
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no idea you have high blood pressure? Or
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don't know that it's a good idea to know
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that you have whether or.
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Not you have high blood pressure, that's just yeh in
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case in case folks
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are not familiar with it. As a guy who
12:04
suffered from hypertension of my entire adult life
12:06
and works hard to treat it. Get your blood
12:08
pressure check, because it's there are no
12:10
symptoms until the symptoms are devastating,
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So get that thing checked.
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I'm lucky I got just naturally low blood pressure,
12:18
probably because I just I've given up, so
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it keeps my blood pressure low.
12:23
Given up on life is relaxed, the
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pressure is off.
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And a different celebrity story.
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I actually heard this on NPR today when
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I was driving a work some child star I didn't
12:34
know from some Nickelodeon show I
12:36
never watched. Might be
12:39
something Katie is aware of more from
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her background. But when they used to pour
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green slime on people's heads and that sort
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of stuff, I've seen highlights of that on Nickelodeon.
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What was that show called?
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You know, they did it on a bunch of their shows.
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It was I think they started it.
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On all that all that they mentioned here.
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Yes, anyway, there's some documentary
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out now called quiet on the
12:58
set The Dark Side of Kids, and
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it's similar to
13:03
the Doctor dre of Uh. Yeah,
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blood pressure is the thing. You know,
13:08
know what your blood pressure is that causes these things that
13:10
happened to you. This This is news
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to anyone that there's a dark side to child
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acting being a child star.
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Seriously did you did you not know this?
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And the particular
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kid that I heard on NPR
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today, their worst
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allegation was, look,
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this is all about money, and so the tutors
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that are supposed to be teaching us actually work for the
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studio, so they don't care about our education. And
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they've got us running all over from one thing
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to another thing to another thing all the time, and
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we're tired and exhausted and don't care about our well being.
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And I thought that sounds like
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your parents made a mistake, not them.
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I mean, it's you know, they could have been nicer. But what
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were your parents doing while you're running
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around from thing to thing to thing and not learning
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what?
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I think?
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Maybe there is a need for one of these books
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once a generation, just so
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everybody knows.
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Yeah, I guess I will tell you that
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that documentary ruined my childhood
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pretty much that I cannot
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think of Nickelodeon scenes.
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Really at all anymore.
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No.
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I watched that entire series and it's disgusting.
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Well, do they have better examples
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of abuse that I was running around
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a lot and my tutor didn't care.
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Oh, pedophiles on set, sexual
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abuse, rape, all of it.
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That's horrible, And if that happened to my
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kid, I would kill the perpetrator so that would
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be taken care of.
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But again,
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I.
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Don't know how you didn't know that, that's what
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the industry was like. You're
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not You're you're the victim, and you're
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you're not at fault. I mean, it's the
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fault of the rapist or whoever.
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But geez, I
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feel like you oughta know that human
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beings have an amazing capacity to be blinded
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by either greed or ideology
14:59
or or their other desires. And
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the idea that my kid, who's really
15:04
handsome and can sing is gonna make us all rich
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and be famous and I, by proxy will
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be famous.
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It blinds people. It certainly
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must.
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I can't imagine dropping off my really
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cute seven year old girl at some studio
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and driving away and seeing twelve hours.
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I'm sure they'll take good care of you and be concerned
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about your education. Yeah,
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yeah, that's horrible. That's interesting, Katie,
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that it ruined your view of Nickelodeon.
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Oh.
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There are several scenes that pop
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up throughout this documentary that I remember
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seeing as a kid and the comedy
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that is engraved in it. It goes
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over your head as a child, but seeing
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it as an adult, it's borderline porn.
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Wow. Yeah, it's disgusting.
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I became aware a while back of the Disney
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star making machinery, machinery the
15:53
child stars of all the hit shows, some
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of whom go on to become
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anorexic, drug addict, depressed,
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its six Stars Britney seems fine,
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sure, yeah right, and
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it's just again, I think maybe
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every generation needs to hear this and
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understand that that is a
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It's poisonous the idea that my
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child is going to be a star and then
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things will be good.
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It's one of the worst things you can do to a child.
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Well for every Ron Howard and
16:26
justin Timberlake to jump generations
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there, there are a whole bunch of people
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that don't turn out as normal as them out
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of the child star machinery.
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I wonder if that.
16:37
Number is obtainable somehow, if
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it were known for every happy,
16:42
well adjusted child star, there are fifteen
16:44
hundred and eighty miserable drug
16:46
addicts or whatever that number happens to be.
16:48
So it's quite on the set. The Dark Sided Kids TV
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streaming on Discovery and Imax. And then
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I guess a couple of years ago HBO had when called
16:55
Showbiz Kids, it was similar. What
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was the other thing we were gonna talk about? Oh, NBC
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fire in that woman, Ronald
17:05
McDaniel. Yeah, God, there's still going
17:07
nuts over that, and it's
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just I'm getting some shot and
17:12
freud out of it.
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But uh, it's delicious.
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It is pretty delicious. Armstrong
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and Geeddy, Look,
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let me do with the elephant in the room.
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Yeah.
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I think our bosses owe you an apology for
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putting you in this situation because
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I don't know what to believe. She is now a paid
17:30
contributor by NBC News. Well,
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I have no idea whether any answer she gave to you
17:35
was because she didn't want to mess up her
17:37
contract. She
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wants us to believe that she was speaking for the rn C when
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the rn C was paying for So
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she has credibility issues that she still
17:48
has to deal with. Is she speaking
17:50
for herself or she's speaking on behalf of who's
17:52
paying her?
17:53
So that Caesar haircutted Former
17:55
Meet the Press host Chuck Todd as
17:58
a guest on Meet the Press. Now that he no longer
18:00
runs it apologizing
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on behalf of America or something to
18:06
the current host of Meet the Press for
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having to interview the former
18:12
chair of the Republican National Committee.
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I don't know if you followed that whole sentence there was complicated,
18:17
but anyway, So NBC hired
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a Republican to be a
18:22
pundit, and Chuck Todd and
18:24
everybody, as you're about to hear that works
18:26
at NBC went nuts. And it
18:28
didn't occur to me till this is like the fourth time
18:30
I've heard this. His concern
18:34
was, when was she being honest
18:36
when she worked for them or when she works for us?
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How is that not true?
18:40
For like half the pundits on
18:42
every talk show in America. He used to be
18:44
a politician and say this, Now
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you're working for us saying that, or
18:49
in the CIA or FBI or
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whatever.
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What.
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So all of your people, all the Democrats
18:55
who used to be spokespeople for various
18:57
people and now are pundits.
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What that? That doesn't
19:03
exist as a different because we're
19:06
the good people. What's the matter? And we
19:08
always tell the truth.
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Right right?
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What I got to tell you, as I was
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listening to Chuck Todd, I was thinking if
19:16
I were to write a parody of this, how
19:19
would I change it? And I
19:22
don't know that I could because
19:25
Chuck Todd is just so Chuck toaddy.
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But what you're about to hear makes Chuck Todd
19:29
look restrained.
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Well, we left out the headline that.
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So after a revolt
19:35
among the people that work at NBC,
19:37
and you're about to hear more of that now, NBC
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caved and fired Ronald McDaniel
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or I don't know if she's gonna still get paid
19:43
on how her contract was worded, she's getting
19:45
three hundred thousand dollars a year for that. By the way, if
19:48
you've ever wondered and I had what these
19:50
various go on a show now and then
19:52
spew your stuff people, what they
19:54
get paid three hundred grand a year, that's
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pretty good, pretty good job.
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I'd do it, yeah, thank you.
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But and so there was a revolt starting,
20:03
I guess on Friday, all the big hosts on MSNBC,
20:06
and it continued yesterday.
20:07
You wouldn't hire a made man like a mobster.
20:11
To work at a DA's office, right,
20:13
That is capitulating to an autocrat
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in advance by saying, yes, we will
20:18
take your apparatic and
20:20
allow them to be elevated and platformed
20:22
with us, with journalists.
20:24
But we've also said election deniers as
20:26
not just they can do that on our airwaves, but that they
20:28
can do that as one of us, as
20:30
badge carrying employees of
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NBC News, as paid contributors
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to our sacred airwaves.
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Your what they're our sacred
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airwaves.
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That's our favorite phrase of the whole thing that
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might be the most pretentious thing I've ever heard of my
20:46
life. Our sacred airwaves or your
20:48
sacred airways sacred. You're elevating yourself
20:50
to like a godly church status
20:53
of the word being handed
20:55
down to mankind on our sacred
20:57
airwaves.
20:58
Our sacred airwaves is.
21:00
Nicole Wallace on MSNBC. By
21:02
the way, you've got to be kidding.
21:04
So when you have Old Brennan,
21:06
the former CIA guy who
21:08
signed on to that Hunter Biden's laptop
21:11
is Russian disinformation letter which
21:13
he knew at the time it wasn't correct,
21:16
and all kinds of other things, he is
21:18
not soiling your sacred air waves having
21:21
him on, and a whole bunch of other examples I
21:23
could give.
21:24
I was going to make light
21:26
of joy Reid calling yourself a journalist. But that one's
21:28
too easy, so I'll just pass. But yeah,
21:31
I joked yesterday that we're
21:33
going to play you a montage of people on
21:36
NBC and MSNBC saying
21:38
that Trump stole the election, that he was an illegitimate
21:41
president, of Hillary
21:43
saying that, of Stacey Abrams
21:45
saying that, of.
21:46
Them going on and on about the Russian.
21:47
Collusion hoax, lying of quoting Adam
21:50
Schiff, who's a oln liar. But that would have been
21:52
fifteen hours long, that collajh. I
21:54
was thinking about it earlier. No, that'd be like fifteen
21:56
days long. It'd be like a spring
21:58
rating stunt. We're in the middle of our fifteen
22:01
day people claiming Trump stole the election
22:03
marathon. I'm not big on claiming elections
22:06
are stolen no matter who did it, unless
22:08
you got some damn good evidence. But yeah,
22:10
that's absolutely sanctimonious
22:12
hilarity our sacred airwaves.
22:15
Rachel Maddow, who's super smart,
22:17
I don't think her analogy works
22:20
at all. Hiring a made man to work
22:22
in the.
22:24
DA's office, it was a
22:26
gaff when somebody accidentally
22:28
tells the truth. Hiring
22:31
a Republican to a network
22:33
that's entirely bent on pushing
22:35
progressive ideas and candidates. Right,
22:38
Yeah, the oppositional like a criminal
22:40
and the DA.
22:41
It is oppositional. It's not a good
22:43
analogy if you're assuming, like I did
22:46
briefly, that they're sitting
22:48
around trying to talk about the politics
22:50
of the day and understand it from every side.
22:52
They're not.
22:53
They're trying to get Joe Biden elected and
22:55
make sure Donald Trump doesn't.
22:57
That's why their shows.
22:58
Exist our Sacred
23:00
Airways.
23:01
Well, that's why they feel their that's what they
23:03
feel their job is.
23:05
Yeah, can you. I mean, it's so
23:07
unwise. I think Howie kurtzmy said some of this. I
23:09
don't want to steal his thunder. He was
23:11
on Special Report with Brett Paar last night, Hit
23:13
Me with sixty five, Michael, would you?
23:15
But the Sacred Airwaves have had McDaniel on
23:17
as a guest, and MSNBC president Rashida
23:19
Jones told of the hiring and advance
23:21
did not object at almost any other news
23:24
outlet talent castigating the
23:26
brass like this would be.
23:27
Shown the door.
23:28
After McDaniel's appearance on Meet the Press,
23:31
NBC executives also appeared worried about
23:33
alienating the large leader of audience.
23:36
Well, the original thought by the NBC
23:38
executives was the correct one. Let's have somebody
23:40
on from the part
23:43
the half the country that sees
23:46
things the way she sees them,
23:48
and let how.
23:49
We roll on sixty six Michael.
23:51
MSNBC's sacred airwaves
23:53
often refuse to air Donald Trump's
23:55
speeches, even on primary nights. And
23:57
while the channel employees prominent Republicans
23:59
and ex Republicans such as Nicole Wallace
24:02
and Michael Steele, they armand anti Trump
24:04
Republicans.
24:05
So what damage would have.
24:07
Been done if McDaniel occasionally
24:09
voiced pro Trump's sentiments with most
24:11
of MSNBC portraying him
24:13
as a danger to democracy.
24:15
Nicole Wallace and Michael
24:18
Steele are anti Republican Republicans,
24:21
not just anti Trump Republicans.
24:23
Now they're hacks.
24:24
Well, they also described in Mark
24:26
Leebovic's brilliant book This Town, they
24:29
worked for what side pays them.
24:30
Yeah by that definition, Yeah, that's what
24:32
they did. They thought, Wow, So because I'm
24:34
a Republican, I can come on here and you'll hire me forever.
24:37
I'll be in this career.
24:38
Michael Steele, who is the RNC chair way
24:40
back in the day, George Bush era.
24:42
He's had a lifetime job.
24:44
Now we now know three
24:46
hundred thousand dollars years, probably more than that for him,
24:49
maybe he makes a half a million dollars a year for twenty
24:51
years getting to be a pundit as long as he bad
24:53
mouths his own party.
24:54
Where do you sign up? Would say a.
24:56
Lot of people right, right, particularly
24:58
DC insider, So I just I
25:01
get that MSNBC in particular, But NBC
25:03
is a pandering factory,
25:06
and that's that's their business model. That's the way they
25:08
make money by telling one side that they're
25:10
always right.
25:11
And that exists of course on the right as well.
25:14
But the idea Morris, who was the
25:17
major advisor to Bill Clinton, has made
25:19
a career out of bad mouthing Democrats, even
25:21
though he was a Democrat his whole life. So he goes
25:23
on Fox and bad moss Democrats and.
25:24
People love it.
25:25
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, It's
25:28
great to see a convert anyway. But
25:31
I just from
25:34
even from a broadcast perspective,
25:36
the idea that you
25:39
can't even hear the
25:41
other side's point of view. I mean,
25:43
you could put Ronal McDaniel on a panel and have four
25:45
people beat the hell out of her verbally
25:48
speaking, but it's so unholy
25:51
and impure to even hear a different
25:53
point of view.
25:54
We won't have it on our.
25:55
And our sacred airwaves.
25:57
Sacred airwaves.
25:59
I mean, that is a rigidity
26:01
and a bubbly existence
26:04
that just I don't get.
26:07
Well.
26:07
I wouldn't sign up for that. I mean, I would
26:09
say, look, are you gonna have me on these shows? And then four
26:12
people just attack me for the entire segment.
26:14
I don't want to do that. If you want to hear what
26:17
half of the country thinks about a particular issue,
26:19
I could do that for you. And I don't know if she had
26:21
those conversations with those people. I actually didn't
26:24
watch the interview with her on Meet the Press because I didn't.
26:26
I wasn't interested. I don't I don't care
26:28
what the RNC for R and C chair says
26:30
about anything.
26:31
Right right, But again, the business model
26:33
of NBC, and especially in NBC
26:36
is to just harp on Trump is
26:39
Satan or Hitler. Some days he's more Satan,
26:41
he's sometimes more hitlerish, uh,
26:43
and that we are the good people on the left,
26:45
and there will be no discussion
26:48
of those key premises.
26:50
You know, this reminds
26:52
me of what was the name of the book you've all then
26:54
wrote. Anyway, his whole
26:57
thesis was everybody
26:59
is standing on institutions
27:02
now and like and
27:04
criticizing them in a way that
27:06
didn't used to happen before. And
27:09
he used the example of Colin
27:14
Kaepernick, the football player, not
27:18
like just taking in. Okay, I'm part of this giant
27:21
institution, blah blah blah, fall in line,
27:23
follow the rules. I'm going to stand on that institution
27:25
and voice my displeasure.
27:27
And we've got so. And he was used a bunch of different
27:29
examples.
27:29
She got the the New
27:31
York Times newsroom that got people
27:34
fired because they weren't happy with what this. I
27:36
mean, you're what more privileged thing
27:38
could happen you get into journalism than you work for the
27:40
New York Times. But rather than like,
27:42
I'm you know, I'm gonna be part of this group, and maybe I'm
27:44
not happy with everything they do. Maybe I'll complain behind
27:46
the scenes blah blah blah, but no, I'm going to try
27:48
to tear them down because I don't like the way it is. And
27:52
that's happening over and over again in all kinds
27:54
of different ways.
27:55
Here's another one of them.
27:56
You had the hosts trying
27:58
to just take on NBC
28:01
and succeeding as opposed
28:03
to the people will run NBC saying well, if you don't
28:05
like.
28:05
It, don't work here. Yeah.
28:08
Yeah, the inmates running the asylums on
28:10
so many different levels. I think our
28:13
institutions.
28:15
That's another vote in favor of or
28:17
against our institutions.
28:18
Not clear to me.
28:20
The book you're thinking of as a Time to Build
28:22
by yuvolle Levin brilliant, brilliant.
28:25
But that that is happening a lot.
28:27
And like kids determining what
28:30
should happen in a schoolroom, And I
28:32
mean there are so many examples.
28:34
You're right, that's a good one. What happens a
28:36
good one.
28:37
A bunch of thirteen year olds demanding
28:39
what should be and should not be taught and done.
28:43
And more than should probably happen. Kids
28:45
telling parents what needs to happen in the family.
28:48
So what how did this all get stood on
28:50
its head? What was the impetus for
28:52
this? But it is all
28:54
around us?
28:55
That question would require at
28:57
least one more book, if not two, for
29:00
an answer.
29:01
Huh. I'll be darned well.
29:04
The definition of conservatism
29:08
is, well, there are several, but a decent
29:10
one would be.
29:12
You don't tear down what works
29:15
unless.
29:15
You got a damned good idea of
29:17
how it's gonna work out. And everybody
29:20
just is for tearing down
29:22
everything because surely what comes
29:25
next will be better. Well,
29:27
take a quick glance at history. That's often
29:29
not the case. In fact, it's almost always
29:32
not the case.
29:33
I don't know how many people are gonna resonate
29:35
with this particular story where you're just talking about. I
29:37
don't know how many people even know what happened. But
29:40
if there is any lasting impact,
29:42
it helps Trump. If there's any lasting impact,
29:44
I think because all the people that were angry
29:46
about are being on NBC already were.
29:50
Yeah.
29:51
I think Middle America would look at that and say those
29:53
people are nuts.
29:54
Yeah, they won't even have one Trump person
29:56
on there to talk about what half the country wants
29:58
to hear.
30:00
Libor waves.
30:01
That's a good point there. There's a liberal
30:03
on every panel on like Fox
30:06
News shows at least.
30:08
Right, I can't imagine ever saying our
30:10
sacred airwaves or anything like.
30:12
That, our sacred airwaves.
30:14
That's hilarious, all right.
30:16
You can weigh in text line four one five
30:18
two nine five kftc Armstrong
30:21
and Getty.
30:26
For the first time in more than twenty years, Trader
30:28
Joe's increased the price of its nineteen
30:31
cent bananas to twenty three
30:33
cents. Oh yeah,
30:35
it's not just them. Whole Foods also
30:37
raised the price of the bananas four cents to twenty
30:40
nine to ninety nine.
30:45
It took me a second. That's pretty funny.
30:47
So the Trader Joe's banana is a thing, Michael,
30:49
I didn't know that, not very much.
30:51
So, yeah, I'm not right.
30:52
I got a Trader's Joe's just down the street for me,
30:54
and I'm almost never in there because I don't have
30:56
the kind of food I like, which is highly processed,
30:58
bad for you crap.
31:01
You can purchase a banana in every grocery
31:03
store in America. What is it about Trader Joe's. It's
31:05
just the price or what just the price.
31:07
It's like the Costco hot dog. They've kept it that price
31:09
for twenty years.
31:10
They were hanging on to an item that was ridiculously
31:13
cheap, like the Costco hot dog, and it's just kind of a
31:15
you know, a branding thing. But
31:18
they couldn't hold on to it any longer. Whole
31:21
foods thirty bucks for a banana?
31:24
Are there any food available
31:27
on planet Earth that combines
31:29
deliciousness with satisfying
31:32
your hunger and inexpensiveness
31:36
better than the banana? Is there anything
31:39
available that surpasses the humble banana?
31:42
How nutritious is a banana? Though?
31:44
I feel like I'm doing the right thing. I mean, you know, it's
31:46
not a whole bunch of sugar in it and fat
31:48
and all that sort of stuff that I don't want.
31:50
But is there much nutrition
31:53
in a banana? There's some
31:55
don't don't drop the P word on me. Potassium
31:58
jack, You know your potassium,
32:02
all right?
32:04
So I was reading more about this sleep study is speaking
32:06
of health and
32:09
how you actually feel older
32:11
when you don't get enough sleep by quite a few
32:14
years.
32:14
And they did a big study of.
32:15
People between the ages of eighteen
32:18
and seventy, actually breaking it down by
32:20
different age groups, asking you how
32:22
old they felt after two days with nine
32:24
hours of sleep. God, two days
32:26
of nine hours of sleep. I haven't had two days with nine hours
32:28
of sleep in a row in maybe
32:31
forty years, I
32:33
can't even imagine. And compared
32:35
with two days with only four hours of sleep per
32:37
night. Now I've done that one hundred
32:40
times in the last time. How
32:42
many years? But you
32:44
feel multiple years older
32:48
as opposed to the people felt
32:51
three months younger after a good night's sleep.
32:53
I don't. I don't have a dial that's at that
32:55
accurate. I can't.
32:57
I definitely feel multiple years older
33:00
after I don't get enough sleep. I couldn't tell you I feel
33:02
three months younger when I get a good night's sleep,
33:04
though my calibration isn't that perfect.
33:06
I feel like I feel like I did back in
33:08
December. Yet
33:10
that hell the
33:13
hell is that I feel three months younger.
33:16
I haven't felt this good since last October
33:18
the eight.
33:20
But what how do you I
33:22
do?
33:24
You don't actually know what you're gonna feel
33:26
like in five years, so the idea
33:28
that we have a perception of I feel five years
33:31
older is kind of interesting.
33:33
This sounds like the sort of quibbling I would do. But
33:35
you made an excellent point there. How do you know
33:38
I don't feel like I'm eighty?
33:39
You don't know that nose right,
33:41
But.
33:41
That's the first thing I thought yesterday after several
33:43
days in a row of not getting enough sleep, as I was coming into
33:46
work, walking from the car, I thought, jeez, I
33:48
feel like I'm seventy five years old,
33:50
and I don't actually even know what that means. But I
33:52
wonder if we intuitively kind of do.
33:53
I don't know. Wow, another
33:56
interesting idea.
33:57
You're on a roll. Now you're gonna think I'm kiddy.
33:59
I have some fascinating information on
34:02
the nutritional value of bananas.
34:03
Okay, at my fingertips. Fantastic.
34:05
Now mildly interesting is
34:07
the nutritional you know, the
34:09
values like any label, the
34:12
carbs and sugar and that sort of thing.
34:15
It's fair amount of carbs, twelve
34:17
plus grams of sugar, it's all natural sugar,
34:20
obviously, some fiber and yeah, some
34:22
good potassium in there and that sort of thing. But
34:24
here's the part that I found really really interesting.
34:28
The main component of unripe
34:30
bananas is starch. Green bananas
34:32
contain up to eighty percent starch measured in dry
34:34
weight. During ripening, the starch is converted
34:36
into sugars and ends up being
34:39
less than one percent when the banana is fully
34:41
ripe. It's sugar
34:43
content changes as
34:46
it ripens. I don't worry about fruit sugar. If
34:48
you do, go ahead, I think I don't believe
34:50
that at all. But so, but
34:52
where when is it the most healthy? Do I want
34:54
more starch? Sure
34:57
you do, Jack, No, I don't know.
35:00
I don't honestly know. I
35:02
got a lot of vitamin B six in there, which
35:04
is one of.
35:05
Your better vines.
35:05
Even if you told me I'm going to eat my banana when
35:08
it's when
35:10
it's there, I mean
35:12
I can't. I don't have the ability
35:14
to have the perfectly right banana at
35:16
my hand.
35:16
Is it all time? Oh? But when you
35:18
do, you know you got life licked.
35:21
My son likes him when they're green. He likes
35:23
with to pict the really green ones and loves that flavor.
35:25
I hate that flavor. It's like my least favorite
35:27
flavor.
35:29
Yeah,
35:32
Armstrong and Getty.
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