0:09

From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio

0:12

and the George Washington Broadcast Center,

0:15

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty

0:17

Armstrong and Getty Show. Sam

0:22

Bankman Freed is really becoming the industry's

0:24

lifeline during a crisis lately.

0:27

I'm fascinated, mlessly fascinated with

0:29

Sam Bankman Freed's role in all of this. You've been

0:31

now described as the JP Morgan if

0:33

you will of the crypto business. A lot of people

0:35

called you the savior of crypto,

0:38

the patron Saints of crypto, the Michael

0:40

Jordan of crypto, if you will, Sam Bankman's

0:42

Freed, bank Freed, the JP Morgan

0:44

and Freed, the Michael

0:47

Jordan of crypto, who

0:50

may go to prison at the very least, is just

0:52

going to be broke. Most likely they

0:56

got that super wrong. Including you heard from Jim

0:59

Kramer there at the end. You'll hear more from him in just

1:01

a second. Well, let's check in on this Fox

1:03

report. What's the latest on FTX

1:05

and how much troubled him. I think

1:07

it's going to take months, probably before

1:09

we truly understand the extent and scope of

1:11

the failure. That's FTX,

1:14

a cryptocurrency exchange once valued

1:16

at thirty two billion dollars. It fell

1:18

apart and is now short and estimated

1:21

eight billion from the Bahamas.

1:23

Former CEO Sam Bankman freed against

1:25

the advice of his lawyers. He says, is

1:27

now trying to explain what happened.

1:30

I really deeply wish that I had

1:32

taken like a lot

1:34

more responsibility for understanding what

1:37

the details were of what was going on there.

1:40

I appreciate the fact that he is not just

1:42

going with the lawyer lee, I'm talking to nobody

1:44

about nothing. I just can't

1:47

figure out if he like he if he actually

1:50

means what he's saying, believes it,

1:52

or he's continuing

1:54

to perpetrate a fraud. I don't know, you

1:58

know, if I had to guess, I

2:01

think it's a guy who was utterly

2:04

incapable of managing the empire he

2:06

created, and when it started the

2:08

crumble, he did some nasty stuff

2:11

knowingly. Yeah,

2:13

probably, yeah, yeah.

2:15

I think it was the classic OH, I

2:18

need to do something, Why don't we do this,

2:20

then we'll pay that account back in

2:22

just a month or two. We ought to be able to pay it back,

2:25

but that he couldn't. With a nod toward

2:27

the conspiracy minded of you.

2:30

Here's a little more. Bankman Freed

2:32

was the second highest donor to Democrats during

2:34

the most recent midterm cycle. He

2:36

now claims he gave the same amount to groups

2:38

supporting Republicans that are not required

2:40

to disclose their funding. One top Democrat

2:43

says he has no idea Bankman Freed

2:45

was even his donor. So the cryptocurrency

2:47

people are active politically, and

2:51

they are trying to achieve a political end

2:53

here. So there's a belief out there

2:55

in some circles that Democrats

2:58

allowed this to maybe even hated

3:00

it, then allowed it to exist, just

3:03

so he could donate gazillions of dollars

3:05

to all the elections and help people get elected.

3:08

Although he has since come forward

3:11

SBF and said I donated just as much money

3:13

to Republicans, they just don't

3:15

have to report it the same way. I don't know if that's true or not.

3:18

I'm not buying that, not for a second.

3:20

Usually, though, you

3:23

your big tech companies have been thrown

3:25

money around to both sides of the aisle just to stay safe.

3:28

You don't think he was, Oh no, I'm

3:30

not saying it's impossible. Just his

3:32

whole history was that of progressive

3:35

causes and

3:37

the I mean, if the New York Times is reporting

3:40

he was the number two donor to Democrats,

3:42

behind George Soros, and they

3:44

don't pretty the word about him giving any money to

3:46

Republicans, it's not because they forgot to look.

3:49

That's an excellent point. And

3:52

then we mentioned Jim Kramer, who's a guy who

3:54

yells on CNBC about

3:57

that's a really good description stocks

3:59

in Finance, and we've had him on many times.

4:01

He's an interesting character. Anyway, he

4:03

was buying the whole SPF

4:05

is the Michael Jordan of crypto thing. He now

4:08

doesn't think much of him. Tam bankman

4:10

Fried and j Powell. Uh, maybe

4:13

not in the same sentence, or shouldn't be, but you

4:16

could take a crack at each one. Well one's

4:18

just a total con artist. Disgusting

4:20

makes me sick. Yeah, guy did a good job. I

4:22

thought he told a good story. Sam whatever

4:25

he like, doesn't eveant to dignifies his full name anymore.

4:28

Uh, is just a con artist.

4:30

And as as many of the people

4:32

who talked about Crypto by now believe coming on

4:35

the show, the con artist was

4:37

just wild. He's fabulous.

4:40

Co mingled stole and

4:42

but he was sorry. He

4:45

was Sorry, we will see said

4:47

earlier. Sorry he got cut.

4:51

Leistom assesses all of this. Of course, I

4:53

don't care about a legend anymore. I'm dropping

4:55

the whole legend nonsense. I

4:57

like that. I like that he doesn't. He's no longer

5:00

we're gonna say alleged. That's hilarious.

5:04

After calling him the Michael Jordan or the JB.

5:07

Morgan or whatever, Sam

5:09

whatever, I don't even want to dignify his full name

5:11

anymore. Yeah, come

5:13

on, Cramer, I don't care

5:15

about alleged anymore. I'm dropping the whole alleged nonsense.

5:18

I'm not being a journalist anymore when it comes to that

5:20

guy. I'm not doing alleged. Okay,

5:24

I must feel unfairly solid ground that this

5:26

guy is a crook. Well, he's probably

5:29

embarrassed that he was touting him. I'm

5:31

sure he was, well, you know, to in

5:34

defense of you know, these people. It's not like

5:36

they get into the books of every

5:38

corporation that's having a good run to

5:40

make sure everything's on the up and up. And

5:42

they're in the news ottainment business, which

5:44

we are too. Honestly, it's it's

5:47

different than spending six months

5:49

writing a dry reported

5:52

article for his you know, Wall Street Journal

5:54

or whatever. It's just a different business.

5:57

So I came across a really

5:59

interesting piece of thinking and Wired,

6:02

uh wired dot com, which is a

6:04

oh, if you don't know what Wired dot com is, you can guess

6:07

from the context. It's a website

6:09

that deals with a lot of tech stuff. And um,

6:12

this guy, uh, Stephen Levy.

6:15

I disagree with him a lot all the time,

6:17

but I thought this was pretty pretty perceptive.

6:20

Um his uh oh, I'm sorry.

6:22

It's actually a Lauren Good

6:24

who's felling in for Stephen Levy in his column.

6:26

I apologize. Um, so

6:29

why the world fell for SBF Sam

6:31

Banquin Freedom? And I thought

6:33

this was interesting

6:37

and it's too long to squeeze into the time

6:39

we have, But he's

6:41

talking about this um

6:43

Manny Katiel, who was a San Francisco based

6:45

democratic organizer and owner of Civic

6:49

Venue. He's an astute questioner who

6:51

sat against a hot pink sequin backdrop

6:53

very San Francisco and pressed SPF

6:55

as He's known on crypto applications and regulation,

6:57

concepts of liberty and freedom and the potentially just

7:00

means that might serve the endgame of effective

7:02

altruism. SPF, who dialed

7:04

in from a dark and Washington, DC hotel room

7:06

scene pleased with his own answers, he also appeared

7:09

distracted through the fifty minute zoom, his

7:11

gaze wandering and his face intermittently

7:13

illuminated, the telltale sign of another

7:15

application being opened, League of Legends.

7:18

Maybe either way, I didn't walk away or

7:20

close my laptop with any great understanding

7:23

of the hype. It was a different SPF

7:25

who sat for a live stream interview with The Razor

7:27

Sharp financial journalist Andrew ross Sarkin

7:29

this week. The crypto entrepreneur's right

7:31

arm kept shaking and he looked chagrined. Look,

7:33

I've had a bad month, he said at one point,

7:36

and which might be the understatement of twenty

7:38

twenty two, A bad

7:40

month. I just saw on TV

7:43

regularly, and I've read about it. His mathematics

7:48

genius girlfriend who was running

7:50

a lot of this, and I

7:52

don't know to what extent. She's a criminal

7:54

also, who looks like she's about twelve years old,

7:56

right, So

8:00

I'm sorry there was what about her, I

8:03

don't I don't know how big a deal she think.

8:05

I feel like she's kind of flying under the radar. So

8:07

anyway, to get to the main point of the article. In recent

8:10

weeks, SPFS thirty two billion

8:12

dollar crypto exchange FTX is completely

8:14

unraveled. Investors have lost millions,

8:17

SPF sewing large. The theoretical

8:19

wealth is dwindle a blah blah blah.

8:22

The one one time under

8:24

Kin seems unable to ask answer direct

8:26

questions. Were there

8:28

signs that FTX was a house of cards and that maybe

8:31

it's whiz kids kid founder didn't know which way

8:33

is up? The ANSWER's partly contingent on one's

8:35

inherent skepticism and understanding of

8:37

the mash nations of the crypto market. The

8:39

short answer is yes, federal prosecutors

8:42

are reported looking into FDx months before

8:44

it crashed, But there were other reasons to be

8:46

skeptical of an unproven entrepreneur

8:49

who seemed overly willing to embody the

8:51

Silicon Valley mad genius

8:53

archetype. And here's where it gets

8:55

into the main point of this thing. So

8:58

why did we investor cryptophenes? The

9:00

media go along with it again? Or as

9:02

writer a known billionaire skeptic, a

9:05

nonjuritarod put it quote,

9:07

My only take on the SPF interview is that I

9:09

don't know why we keep trusting highly

9:11

limited, demi adult men with the keys

9:14

to our prosperity in society. He has

9:16

very little to teach and a lot to learn. Somehow,

9:18

so many got it backwards. So

9:20

this journalist posed that very question, how did

9:22

he Why do we fall for this stuff? Who's

9:25

a professor of history at the University of Washington

9:27

and author of The Code, Silicon

9:29

Valley and the Remaking of America.

9:32

And this author, Margaret o' harris, said,

9:34

everyone loves the hero's journey, and we're still

9:37

fixated on the idea of the eccentric

9:39

genius accomplishing extraordinary things.

9:42

Bill Gates of Microsoft,

9:44

Larrian Serge, you invented

9:47

Google. In

9:49

the case of San bankrunt freed or recently

9:51

sentenced frauds to Elizabeth Holmes, the

9:53

collective and generally positive fascination

9:55

with the may of stem from old fashioned solutionism,

9:58

whatever that is. They were both fixing a failure

10:00

right home centers at a scene at a time

10:03

when people are asking where are the women

10:05

in tech? Also, all you guys are

10:07

doing in the values making apps. She's making

10:09

medical devices that are going to change healthcare.

10:14

That's a gentle and fancy way

10:16

of saying. So much of the media

10:18

which is left is about identity

10:22

and wishful thinking. Right. So

10:25

she's a woman in tech, so you gotta worship

10:28

her like a goddess. Her little box

10:30

doesn't do anything, and it

10:32

should have been known for years, but people were

10:34

so anxious to jump onto that bandwagon.

10:37

Her being a woman and

10:39

attractive blonde with the black

10:41

turtleneck was so much

10:43

of the appeal without any other stuff. And

10:45

this guy guarantee of him being in his twenties

10:48

and Doughey with that head of hair was

10:50

so much of his appeal. Yeah,

10:53

yeah, indeed, they just love that story. More

10:56

recently, the world of crypto has also been seen

10:58

as imperfect in downright sketchy. Then along

11:00

came SPF and the familiar cycle

11:02

began. He's the stereotype, the nerdy

11:04

guy in the cargo shorts with a pedigreed background.

11:07

He's a quant. I don't even know what that is. I'm

11:09

clearly not a quant. Can you say that? And

11:11

then he's talking about politics and altruism.

11:15

He's not just talking about the techi's heads down,

11:17

and he's talking about the world and how he

11:19

can deploy what he's doing more broadly,

11:21

Yeah, that was brilliant on his part. I

11:23

don't know if that was orchestrated or he actually

11:25

believes it, but that that was

11:27

a master stroke in terms of getting everybody

11:29

on your side. I'm only becoming

11:32

a gazillionaire to make the world a better

11:34

place to live in. Yeah, yeah,

11:36

yeah, you can see the appeal to certain types

11:38

of people. And then finally,

11:41

this basically O'Meara's

11:43

diagnosis of the underlying problem is a persistent

11:45

case of techno optimism, despite

11:47

the fact that technology hasn't lived up to all of

11:49

its promises to turn us into smarter, more

11:51

efficient, productive societies over the past twenty

11:53

years. A point about we still wonder

11:55

if tech itself can solve the complexities

11:58

tech Hathrott. There's this

12:00

hopefulness that technology will save us,

12:02

even though we have abundant evidence that it can

12:04

be problematic. I would say it is

12:07

that is interesting. We believe that tech

12:09

is going to solve the problems. Tech has

12:11

given us. One more quote,

12:14

and this is the This is the home run ball, this

12:16

is the three pointer from downtown, this is the

12:18

sixty yard field. It's

12:20

a very complicated sport I play. The rules are

12:22

difficult to learn. The

12:27

she is reminded of another Jiraharda

12:29

horridas jam the fell I quoted

12:32

before on tech founder hero

12:34

Worship quote, they

12:37

are as limited at humanity as

12:39

I am at coding, but therefore

12:42

I stay away from coding, but they refuse

12:44

to stay away from lording over humanity.

12:47

I'm going to say that again. It's so good the

12:50

tech founder hero Worship looking

12:53

at you Zuckerberg. I'm looking at you, Elon. They

12:57

are as limited at humanity as I am

12:59

at coding, but therefore I stay away

13:01

from coding, but they refuse to stay away

13:03

from lording over humanity. Right, And

13:05

that's a new thing. Because

13:09

Henry Ford, figuring out the assembly

13:11

line and building cars, didn't also think

13:13

I've got the recipe for fixing everything

13:15

that's wrong with this country. Well

13:18

he did a little bit, but a lot of his ideas

13:20

were loathsome or you didn't

13:22

have the power to affect anything like that.

13:24

Oh you could affect the car you

13:26

built. Yeah, that is an interesting

13:29

new thing. Huh yeah, I'm gonna seek out more

13:31

of this. Uh. This gent who is quoted

13:33

with the difficult to pronounce

13:35

the name. It looks like we're gonna change the way we choose

13:37

our presidents USA versus Netherlands

13:39

tomorrow is getting lots of attention to bunch stuff to talk about

13:41

to stay with us

14:02

the Armstrong and Getty Show. The

14:07

President wants South Carolina to

14:09

be the first place voters picked their Democratic

14:11

presidential candidate. Nevada in New

14:13

Hampshire would come second, followed by Georgia

14:16

and Michigan. President Biden saying

14:18

the current early state lineup puts black

14:20

and Latino voters at a disadvantage,

14:22

also says Democrats should eliminate caucuses

14:25

as they require people to choose in public

14:27

and it puts hourly workers at a disadvantage

14:29

when caucuses take up so much time.

14:32

What I think is going on here, so progressives

14:35

are not digging the idea

14:37

of South Carolina being the first state because

14:40

the way media attention money works,

14:42

winning the first has always been really,

14:45

really important, with very

14:47

few exceptions, Joe Biden being one of the exceptions.

14:49

He finished fourth in Iowa, ended

14:51

up winning because the party

14:53

aligned against the people who were

14:56

winning Bernie Elizabeth Buddha

14:58

Jedge. They didn't think any of those people could win.

15:00

So now I think the

15:02

party is choosing South Carolina

15:05

because it will keep progressive weirdos

15:07

who can't win a general election from

15:10

having a shot of win in that state. Because

15:12

even Democrats in South Carolina are

15:14

more conservative than Democrats in

15:16

save Vermont. Yeah, the white Democrats

15:19

in South Carolina are more conservative, and the black population

15:21

is famously not as cool with all the trans

15:24

this and that and all the super you know that sort

15:26

of stuff. Yeah.

15:29

Yeah. And it's interesting that Biden

15:31

goes to Iowa and just gets nothing

15:33

going in the state where you actually

15:35

meet the candidates and talk to them and go to

15:37

little speeches and all, because everybody said he's way

15:39

too old, he's senile. It's unlikely you're

15:41

going to win over a ton of voters in South Carolina

15:43

by doing your pronouns on the debate stage.

15:46

Ah yeah, well said. On the other

15:48

hand, the idea that our national destiny

15:50

is going to be decided first by a bunch of

15:53

secessionists humidity, love and

15:56

slow talk in South carie Linians,

15:58

followed by Nevada, a bunch of desert

16:01

hop and compulsive gambling Vegas

16:04

hook or loving nevad and dry

16:06

heating. Then often New

16:08

Hampshire with their maple syrup

16:11

and I didn't work up a riff on the had

16:13

I forgot I know that much about Georgia.

16:15

See the same insults as South Carolina,

16:18

and then Miss Chicken, a bunch of red faced,

16:21

frozen headed naming this great

16:23

lake after their stay instead of Wisconsin. I don't

16:25

know why selfish

16:27

wolverine rooting dopes. I

16:30

think it's the mainstream wing of the Democratic

16:32

Party. They're trying to portray. This is we want

16:34

to be more diverse, this is more progressive.

16:37

Moving it to South Carolina. I think it's it's

16:39

an attempt to lock out the

16:41

Bernies and the Elizabeth Warnings and the AOC's

16:44

from from getting national office.

16:47

Yeah. Well, and at some point will have been doing

16:49

this long enough that I won't have to repeat this sort

16:51

of thing. I'll just say A thirty two and our listeners

16:53

will know which of my screens it is.

16:56

But this is the one where I say. The idea

16:58

that all black people vote

17:01

a certain way and think a certain way,

17:03

and all Hispanic people blah blah blah is incredibly

17:05

insulting. Individuals

17:10

think individually, come to their own conclusions,

17:12

maybe as part of groups, maybe not. I don't assume

17:15

people vote a certain way because of the hue

17:17

of their epidermis. Black people

17:19

as a voting block are much more religious though

17:21

than I think any other voting block, and

17:24

South Carolina is more religious than most

17:26

states, and so that will keep out, you know, your

17:28

atheist sort of candidates. I think

17:31

your theory is really sound.

17:34

In case you're wondering, as I am have been,

17:36

the Repulcans are saying, no, we're going to keep the states

17:38

in the same order for our delios, right,

17:41

for better or worse. If you miss an hour of the show,

17:44

get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand

17:47

Armstrong and Getty.

18:02

See Armstrong and Getty show. You

18:07

know, it's like he had a really cool outfit and stuff,

18:10

and he was a really good architect, and

18:12

uh so you're in love with the with the with the

18:14

with the the arc, the look of it.

18:16

And he didn't kill six million Jews. That's just

18:18

like factually incorrect. Let's get the Ronald

18:20

Reagan clip they showed me Aterday. Sorry, go ahead, Ronald

18:22

Reagan said that too. Well. I think Hitler did

18:24

target and kill some people. I think, you know, I

18:27

think Obama killed Palestinians.

18:30

Oh no, I hear you here. Here's where I think the

18:32

frustration is nicky comment on this. And Obama

18:34

was not the first black president, he was another

18:36

Jewish president. So that's presidential

18:39

candidate Kanye West

18:42

on the disgraced Alex Jones's show, who

18:44

just today got hit with a one point

18:47

five billion dollars bill for

18:49

the evil, evil things that he said he's

18:51

going bankrupt. Uh

18:54

So he had Kanye on because I was going to drive

18:56

a lot of viewership and listenership, which it did.

18:59

Kanye's completely nuts, which is obvious.

19:02

I want to point out Jack, if I might, that was

19:04

a precisely thirty second long

19:07

clip in which it

19:09

would have been about thirty two if he'd included

19:12

what they were talking about, in which Kanye

19:15

denied the Holocaust, claimed

19:18

that Obama was not the first black president

19:20

but a Jewish president, praised

19:23

the sartorial splendor

19:25

of Nazi Germany, and

19:27

there was one more that I'm forgetting. Oh

19:30

and when Alex Jones stuck

19:32

his thick, fat, soullless

19:35

neck out and said I think

19:37

the Nazis did target some people. Oh

19:40

wow, Okay, so

19:42

we didn't play this earlier. Apparently this is a visual

19:44

that I haven't seen. I guess

19:46

it's a Net and Yahoo riff. That's

19:48

the Prime Minister of Israel.

19:52

And Kanye's got a Net and

19:54

a bottle of Yahoo chocolate

19:56

milk as

20:00

a puppet and with a puppet or I don't know.

20:02

Let's listen to this. Well we did is

20:04

we brought Net and Yahoo with us.

20:08

Ah,

20:11

I'm in the twilight zone right now. Net

20:14

and Yahoo? What do you have to

20:16

say? What do you have to say to Alex

20:19

Jones right now? Nick? For Wintez and Ya?

20:22

It was bad. It was bad for me.

20:28

Okay, I

20:30

had no idea your voice is gonna sound like that, Nan,

20:33

Yahoo, So

20:36

you don't like Benjamin yet? Yahoo? I

20:39

just I just heard about

20:41

this guy two weeks ago, since like the tweeting

20:44

I thought he had a funny name. I

20:46

heard. He's like really into like he's

20:48

like a superkiller. I could die for saying this, So

20:51

it gave just the last time you ever hear from me. Yeah,

20:54

I'm afraid I may

20:57

have turned the corner to where it's not amusing

20:59

me anymore. He

21:01

is so mentally ill. He

21:04

is a mentally ill man child. He is

21:06

what happens if you have if you're like

21:09

a lot of the people that are out on the street. I could look out

21:11

the winner right now and see people that have the same problem

21:14

Kanye has, but they don't have two

21:16

billion dollars and don't get your ratings, and

21:19

then they can't walk and get into a limo and go to

21:21

some radio or TV show and

21:23

get put on the air immediately because people know they'll

21:25

they'll make money off of your rantings.

21:28

Right, yeah, exactly. And he

21:31

doesn't have the good sense like most mentally

21:33

ill people to understand how mentally ill he is. And

21:36

he also I think,

21:38

well, maybe we'll play some clips and I'll save my

21:40

comments to you want to hear more of that brilliant

21:43

net and Yahoo thing as

21:45

he mentioned there. You know what I do,

21:47

the expert on the Holocaust and

21:50

how the Jews, the Jews who

21:52

promised to go death con three on how

21:54

the Jews run thing it turns it runs

21:56

thing it turns out. He's he'd never heard of

21:58

net and Yahoo Benjamin Yahoo until

22:01

recently. So that's how long is serving prime

22:03

minister in Israeli history. So that's

22:05

how up on the news

22:07

Kanye West is. Wow.

22:11

I'll bet he doesn't have a human

22:13

being around him who even

22:16

comes close to saying you're

22:19

you're really not as up to speed on the whole Jewish

22:21

history things as you think you are, or

22:25

you're making it to where you're never going to be able to make another

22:28

dime on this planet. Uh

22:30

yeah, that part you might want to mention. Yeah,

22:33

So again, it's no Kermit the Frog.

22:35

But let's get back to the beloved puppet

22:37

character net and Yahoo. I

22:39

was tired of picking up the Yahoo

22:41

and the Netting, so for now,

22:43

it's just Netting. I know some people call him Bebe

22:46

not you call him yeah, yeah, but

22:48

we're gonna call him nt

22:52

What you wanting then, Hey ya, right after

22:54

this, I'm gonna say you're crazy. I'na take

22:57

your family for you. Hey yeah,

23:00

connect cash for that. We have to

23:02

control the history, but we have to

23:04

control the banks and we have to go and

23:06

kill people. So

23:13

a little I hope they're going to take the mask off. This

23:16

is this actually gay? Of

23:18

course? That Yeah, if you hadn't seen any of the videos,

23:21

Kanye's wearing a mask over his face, like

23:23

a like he's a bank robber or something.

23:25

Yeah, like a black, thick nylon

23:29

hood thing like he's just been

23:31

taken to hostage by Isis or so you said

23:33

earlier, this is the most high profile mental

23:36

breakdown in history, and I think you're

23:38

right. Whow So the

23:40

original the first clip we played was just

23:44

the nonsense ramblings of an unfortunately

23:46

crazy person. The second clip,

23:48

he went ahead and got into all your best

23:52

anti Semitic the

23:54

you know, the greatest hits they

23:57

run all the banks and they blah

23:59

blah blah. No, boy,

24:05

we gotta play more so people understand. Okay,

24:09

which ones. Let's just go ahead with

24:11

the thirty Michael, I've

24:14

said it the most Nazi like activities I've seen

24:17

um and the Nazis, in my view, war thugs

24:19

that shout people down to a lot of really bad things, but they

24:22

did good things too. We've gotta stop dissing the Nazis

24:24

all the time. Okay, we're

24:26

We're gonna get to that. So

24:30

I mentioned earlier Alex

24:32

Jones, who is evil but not

24:35

crazy or stupid. He knew exactly

24:37

what he had on there, and I mean he was like shaking his head

24:39

like this is unbelievable. This is gold,

24:41

Jerry, this is gold. Like he came on my show

24:43

and you're said saying all kinds of crazy stuff that is

24:45

gonna get so much attention. Thirty

24:48

one. Michael, you're

24:51

not a Nazi. You don't deserve to be called

24:53

that and demonized. Well, I

24:57

I see, I see good things about

24:59

him. They're also the Jews. I love

25:02

everyone, and Jewish people are not going to tell me.

25:04

You can love um

25:08

you know us, and you can love what

25:10

we're doing to you with the contracts, and you

25:12

can love what we're you know what we're pushing

25:14

with the pornography. But this

25:17

guy that invented

25:19

highways, invented the very microphone

25:21

that I use as a musician. You can't

25:23

say out loud that this person ever did

25:25

anything good. And I'm done with that.

25:28

I'm done with the classifications.

25:30

Every human being has something of

25:32

value that they brought to the table, especially

25:35

Hitler, especially Hitler,

25:38

Oh boy wow.

25:44

And I'm not a fan of Hitler. I don't

25:46

know if there's a busy contrast there. Yeah,

25:50

and you know they're going to be rival candidates

25:52

on the debate stage having to make their

25:54

argument, make their case. I

25:56

don't think Conny's gonna make it to the debate

25:59

stage, So

26:02

I don't know if there's any point in commenting on the

26:04

ramblings of a guy who's bipolar

26:07

or schizophrenic or whatever he is. Uh

26:12

so, maybe this question doesn't make any sense. But what,

26:14

even in his crazed mind, is the endgame

26:16

of this? Where does

26:19

he actually think? You remember he said

26:21

on that one radio show, I can say anything I

26:23

want and Adidas won't drop me. And Adidas

26:25

dropped me. He lost two billion dollars in one

26:27

week? Does

26:30

he does? Can he conceive

26:33

of an endgame of this, of how this is going to

26:35

play out? No, he has no impulse control,

26:37

so the I don't think the endgame enters into his

26:39

mind? Really does he? I don't have any idea

26:41

how good his business

26:44

mind actually is. He might,

26:46

he might not be real good with money

26:48

and not actually realize you've

26:51

cut off all of your income streams.

26:54

You have a very expensive

26:56

lifestyle, flying around in a private

26:59

plane, and who knows how many people hangers

27:01

on he's supporting. Oh yeah, and as of

27:03

yesterday he owes two hundred thousand dollars a month

27:06

to Kim Kardashian for child support in

27:08

their divorce. And I mean he's got he's got a heck of

27:10

a monthly not to meet and he ain't gonna

27:12

earn another dollar in his life. Yeah,

27:15

you know, there's another clip I

27:17

was trying to remember which one, in

27:19

which he's talking about why he tries

27:21

to find good in Hitler and touts the

27:24

highway system and microphones and I

27:27

won't even go there. But at one point he

27:29

expresses that Jesus taught us to, you

27:31

know, forgive and find the good in people. And I

27:33

just think he's a guy with a set

27:36

of mental illness problems that might include

27:38

bipolar disorder whatever we're gonna

27:40

end up calling it in ten years when it's understood

27:42

better. But you know, he's on a manic

27:45

swing where he's trying to

27:47

find the good in everyone and

27:50

trying to preach that. But it doesn't make any sense

27:52

because his thoughts are so disjointed, and so

27:54

he goes to Hitler was a good guy. Yeah, start

27:56

with somebody else before you get down all the way

27:58

down to Hitler. How's

28:01

this ub dole? Maybe? I don't know. How

28:04

do you think this ends? I said a couple of weeks ago. I think he

28:06

kills himself. I'll be shocked

28:08

if we don't get a ding on our phone someday

28:10

tomorrow or two years from now,

28:13

Kanye West is dead at the age of fifty.

28:16

You know, I suspect he has enough wealth that

28:19

if he plays his cards right, and that's

28:21

a monumental if he'll have enough

28:23

money to go kind of Howard Hughes, he'll

28:26

become a recluse who's rarely heard

28:28

from prince but even

28:30

crazier. And then ten years later

28:32

it's announced he's going to put out an album,

28:35

but it's incoherent and I

28:37

hope he doesn't offer himself. But he is obviously

28:39

confused young man. He's on a bad track.

28:42

Oh yeah, oh oh,

28:44

it's just what manner of

28:46

disaster is going to be his results.

28:49

I'm pretty surprised because

28:51

after the initial tweet,

28:57

kind of tired, y'all, I'm going to bed, but when I

28:59

wake up in the morning, death come three

29:01

on the Jews and then he goes to bed. Um

29:04

changed his life forever. Yeah,

29:07

with one tweet. But

29:09

after that there was talk. Spotify came

29:12

out and said, you know, for the for we've made the decision.

29:14

For now, we're going to keep playing Kane Kanye

29:16

West music. I haven't heard a word about it. I'm surprised

29:18

the platforms haven't dropped

29:20

him at this point. I mean, when you're going on full

29:25

support of Hitler holocaust

29:27

didn't exist, I'm surprised you

29:29

haven't been dropped by and I'm not

29:31

advocating for it. I don't think. I don't

29:34

like that sort of thing. His music is still his

29:36

music. Yeah, if I'm running

29:38

one of these platforms, I put out a statement saying Kanye

29:40

West is a brilliant artist, but he's obviously mentally

29:43

ill. We're going to keep playing his music

29:45

because his music's wonderful. Obviously

29:47

his crazy rantings about Hitler

29:49

are utterly unacceptable. We condemned

29:52

them well. Like you said, I don't know, maybe I'm being

29:54

a simpleton about the way the world works. But like

29:56

you said earlier about van Go, I mean, there have

29:58

been so many easy artists of all

30:00

different kinds. You're

30:03

gonna cancel all

30:05

of them for the work they did that

30:07

people liked before they knew their personal

30:09

crazy views. Yeah, if every actor,

30:12

MovieMaker, or a musician who'd said something

30:14

completely insane were purged, I mean,

30:16

what's the point of that. I

30:18

almost I think it's more useful. And

30:21

again I'm probably being naive and overly

30:23

sincere in my thinking, given

30:25

the ugliness in the modern world. But I think it'd

30:27

be more useful to say, all right, look

30:30

a look at this guy. Look

30:32

at what mental illness has done to him.

30:34

He's going so far as to praise Hitler.

30:36

He's completely unhinged, Folks. Mental

30:39

illness is a thing. It's like a physical illness.

30:41

But if it affects your brain, here's how you

30:43

get help, which is not much

30:45

and not very good. And

30:49

let's talk about it. Let's be open about it. Let's not

30:51

just say silence, silence. He praised Hitler,

30:53

Hitler's evil silence. Ignore

30:55

him. He doesn't exist anymore. Well will there's

30:58

a term from one of Orwell

31:00

or Hucksley novels. Doesn't matter, but essentially

31:02

dishapp hear him?

31:05

What good does that do anybody? We know you're

31:08

not supposed to like Hitler. Everybody

31:10

knows that. Nobody but a lunatic

31:12

or a scumbag does. So

31:15

it's a story about mental illness. It's not about a

31:17

story about praising Hitler. So I've heard about

31:19

Hitler and the Interstate highway system

31:21

or something. But Hitler and microphones,

31:24

I don't know Nazis invented microphones.

31:26

I don't know that one. Well, some of his scientists

31:28

may have been involved. I mean a lot of your microphone

31:30

brands have German names, Yeah, Newman, Buyer,

31:34

Dynamic among others.

31:36

Okay, so Hitler and Ding microphones. Well, what

31:38

the hell? Industry and science

31:41

continued during the loathsome regime, and

31:43

it was a period of great to you know, you

31:46

know, progress in terms of the sciences. So yeah,

31:49

some stuff came out of Nazi Germany. It's

31:52

I've never understood. And then what okay,

31:54

so any they invented

31:57

the Volkswagen and

32:00

now what what's the rest of the sentence. So

32:03

so, so I'm not supposed to drive up. I'm

32:07

supposed to praise the Nazis. So

32:09

I'm not supposed to be bothered by the Holocaust

32:12

in World War two. I mean, I just I don't I don't

32:14

understand the point. I don't

32:16

get the point. Yeah. Yeah,

32:18

that's why a lot of these discussions ends up being so

32:21

stupid. But yeah, oh man,

32:23

we need to take a break. He's got to be about done,

32:25

though, isn't he. Yay. I can't

32:27

believe he's got many more platforms to go

32:29

to well, unless he like carries

32:32

on a child's sacrifice on live TV.

32:35

I think he's gone about as far as you can go, right,

32:37

it might be the end of the road. Any thoughts

32:39

text line four one five two nine five KFTC

33:02

The Armstrong and Getty Show. The

33:08

Wall Street journalized a gruesome story

33:10

today about what it was like inside that apartment

33:12

complex in China when the fire broke

33:15

down out and the doors are wired shut

33:17

and people are texting you

33:19

know, we're gonna die, which they were a

33:21

lot of them, and it's just awful. But one of

33:23

the things I mentioned also in the article is because

33:25

China doesn't have the advanced vaccine

33:28

the rest of the world has, because they don't want to admit

33:30

that the rest of the world did a better job. They

33:32

got a crappy vaccine that most people haven't

33:35

taken, and they could easily have two

33:37

million plus deaths from

33:39

the omicron flying around as

33:41

it tit in China right now. Wow.

33:44

They've got a really old population

33:46

too, with not great medical care. Yeah,

33:48

and they haven't had the vaccine.

33:51

Yeah yeah, wow, dirty

33:54

commies. Oh. Plus, the goon squads are coming

33:56

around for the people who have participated in the in

33:59

the demonstrations. It's it's troubling

34:01

and sad, obviously in sickening, but it's also interesting

34:04

how they do what they do. Will have that for you

34:06

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34:21

Well, this is this is a fabulous story

34:23

and none at all surprising. San Francisco's

34:25

new space age public toilet broke

34:28

down after three days. You

34:30

remember hearing about the I was looking

34:33

for a public toilet in San Francisco just

34:35

yesterday and it's broken

34:37

down, unfortunately. Days after San Francisco

34:40

officials unveiled a new, sleek public toilet

34:42

at the Embarcadero Plaza on Wednesday, the

34:44

futuristic commode suffered technical problems

34:47

that resulted in a temporary closure

34:50

close for several hours. As

34:52

expected with a new mechanical system, there

34:54

will be small technical adjustments

34:56

during this early usage period, told

34:59

the death PD, director of Policy and Communications

35:02

for the Public Works Department. The

35:06

toilet at the Embargador plaza is one

35:08

of twenty five that are said to be installed in the next

35:10

few years to replace the Parisian style

35:12

lose found throughout the city that we're supposed

35:15

to be the hope of mankind. I'm

35:17

going to see Parisian Lose tonight up front row

35:19

tickets. Oh, will bring your plugs because they're

35:21

crazy loud anyway, since

35:24

it's unveiling Wednesday, the toilet

35:27

has been used approximately four hundred times,

35:29

with residents and tourists giving the toilet positive

35:31

reviews. It looks

35:34

like something out of the War of the Worlds. It's

35:37

a sleek and metallic and looks like

35:39

a spacecraft that presumably you go

35:41

into and somehow or other they

35:43

keep crackheads from turning tricks in there,

35:46

or bums from sleeping in there, or people

35:48

from smearing feces all over the place, which

35:50

was the fate of the Parisian lose.

35:53

The best part of your modern city is the public

35:55

toilets are disgusting, and all the businesses

35:58

won't allow you to use their restaurman anymore

36:00

if they have a restroom at all, because bums

36:02

come in there. So there's just no place to

36:04

use the bathroom in a modern city.

36:07

If you don't carry your own bag like

36:09

you're walking your dog, you're a fool. Oh

36:12

yeah, really you would do that? Oh

36:14

yeah, well you have to. It's a sicken

36:18

you squapped and clean up after yourself. Not

36:22

really, that's the worst

36:24

thing I've ever thought of, you know. It

36:27

was so bizarre and yes

36:30

at the same time, you

36:33

know, Um, I'm trying to think it.

36:35

Generally speaking, I've figured out

36:37

where I can go and say I

36:41

will buy whatever you want. Oh. I

36:43

have done that before myself. But you gotta have money

36:45

to do that. Yeah. I mean if you're like on a

36:48

paycheck to paycheck or you're broke, you can't give somebody

36:50

ten bucks so you can pee. Yeah, I've

36:52

done that before. Even if I don't say that, go in

36:54

there and I'm kay, you know, get me a cup of coffee

36:58

and you can go use the bathroom. Come back. He didn't

37:00

really need a couple of coffee, but you have it anyway. I

37:02

had to buy a road, you had to buy a boat, yeah,

37:04

wow. Do commitment yeah

37:07

yeah, or just where dark pants is another

37:10

another possibility. Wow. Um,

37:12

not a good animal time for the week. That was a

37:15

rough ending for the week for a lot of people. I

37:17

apologize. We do another hour next

37:19

hour. If you don't get that, or if you miss any hour, you

37:21

can grab the podcast. It's Armstrong and Getty

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on demand, and I'll try to be less disgusting.

37:26

I promise one would hope. Armstrong

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