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0:01

From the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio

0:03

at the George Washington Broadcast Center.

0:06

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong

0:09

and Getty Show.

0:16

So first, this.

0:19

One of the many things Elon Musk

0:21

has got his fingers into is the

0:25

whole Neural Link project, trying to figure

0:27

out how to put something in your brain where you can control

0:29

computers. They've

0:31

moved from monkeys to humans now and here's the

0:33

first human to have the

0:36

neural link thingy explaining how it works.

0:38

How are you able to actually move the car?

0:40

Sir?

0:40

We started out with a trying out a

0:42

few different things what we call kind

0:45

of differentiating like imagine movement versus

0:49

attempted movement. So a lot of what

0:51

we started out with was attempting to move. So I would

0:53

attempt to move, say my

0:56

right hand, left, right, forward,

0:59

back, and from there

1:01

I think it just became intuitive for

1:03

me to start imagining

1:06

the cursor moving. Basically,

1:09

it was like using

1:11

the force on the cursor and

1:13

I to move wherever I want to.

1:14

Just stare somewhere in the screen and

1:17

it would.

1:17

Move where I wanted it to.

1:19

I know, people in the world

1:21

of this sort of thing to be vague, who

1:24

are shocked that Elon

1:27

got the clearance to do this on human

1:29

beings. I'm sure glad he did, because I think if there's

1:31

anybody out there who wants to volunteer, let

1:33

them. The government should not get in the way of that.

1:36

But this guy, he

1:39

volunteered and they got the neuralink in his head,

1:41

and he's talking about moving the cursor on

1:43

a computer screen like you're using the force.

1:47

I'll take his word for the fact that it works.

1:49

I just every time I think of this, I feel

1:51

like I'd be sitting there thinking, don't go

1:53

left, that's going left. I don't want to go left. Go just going

1:55

right, don't go left, don't go left.

1:57

I mean, just that's

2:00

funny.

2:00

It never across my mind, kind of

2:02

like me, don't think about a white elephant thing or

2:04

whatever. Just once you got here, Yeah,

2:07

it would get into your head.

2:08

And be like, ah,

2:11

what word,

2:16

Oh my gosh?

2:18

Uh the search port.

2:19

Are you search and porn?

2:20

I didn't want to search PORTN You're supposed to be working well

2:24

to Uh.

2:24

To bring this back to a

2:27

different approach, I would say

2:29

this could lead to miraculous improvements

2:33

in the quality of life for all sorts

2:35

of people.

2:36

Oh yeah, yeah, And

2:38

then does it go to

2:40

the level I assume it would where perfectly healthy

2:42

people get that in their heads so that you can run

2:44

your turn on your TV by sitting on

2:46

the couch or something more. You know, why

2:48

the hell would I want that to drive your

2:50

car on one that the Internet of things?

2:53

So the Internet of things sucks.

2:55

It's like your your garage door

2:58

as a sensor and it opens the garage when

3:00

you get within half a block. Yeah, because oh

3:02

my thumb, it hurts so bad to press that

3:04

button. Thank god, finally there's a sensor.

3:07

No, none of that stuff is important.

3:09

Well, my my Tesla is

3:12

a one one big giant computer software.

3:15

You run the whole thing with your brain. You're

3:19

not using your feet, your hands, You're nothing. You just drumming

3:21

everything in your brain or your computer

3:23

sitting there at work or everything you do.

3:25

You just just safe wear and tear on your feet

3:27

or what what's wrong with your feet?

3:31

Is it somehow a trial

3:34

for you to use your feet?

3:36

I don't know.

3:37

I guess I just assumed that this is what people

3:39

want to be able to. So you get this immobile

3:42

for the rest of your life. I don't get out,

3:44

so you can type on your computer while you're eating

3:46

a sandwich.

3:48

Oh, it's a beautiful dream you have

3:50

there, a beautiful dream. Things

3:52

are getting weird. No, they can't wear no

3:54

more having to put down your sandwich

3:57

to type on your computer.

4:00

Okay, well, maybe I'm having more trouble coming with

4:03

practical applications than I

4:05

should.

4:07

Video games. There you go.

4:08

I could absolutely see that for video games

4:11

or doctors. You're performing surgery with both

4:13

hands, and you're doing stuff on the computer screen,

4:15

moving the mouse around and clicking on this.

4:17

And then.

4:19

I think it may have actually struck upon two examples.

4:23

Yeah, well, we'll see where this is going.

4:25

Although the whole sandwich typing thing

4:27

was pretty compelling.

4:31

Oh my god, ah.

4:33

From uh laughter to anger. This

4:36

is talk radio. This actually does

4:38

make me mad. I heard about it on the way in Sliding

4:41

under the Radar. I don't know why Joe

4:43

Biden didn't do this in the first place. So

4:45

he tried to make

4:48

taxpayers bail out college kids

4:51

all at once, and the Supreme Court said you

4:53

can't do that. Since then,

4:56

they have, piece by piece, with a variety

4:58

of different programs. The President of

5:00

the United States, with a stroke of a pen wiped

5:02

out now one hundred and forty

5:05

four billion dollars of

5:07

college student debt, with the latest six

5:09

billion happening overnight. The

5:12

letters are going out to about

5:14

four hundred thousand public service workers

5:17

thanking them for their service,

5:19

and they're about to have their college debt race.

5:21

So, if you're a firefighter, cop,

5:23

nurse, teacher, social worker,

5:27

your college loans are forgiven

5:29

by the rest of the taxpayers for

5:32

some reason, even though those are great paying jobs

5:35

with great benefits. Somebody

5:37

who doesn't have a great paying job and has no

5:39

benefits is going to pay for

5:42

your college loan for some reason.

5:45

In essence.

5:45

Yeah, yeah,

5:47

it's it's obscene, it's

5:50

undemocratic, it's anti

5:52

progressive, it's just wrong

5:55

land.

5:56

You know.

5:56

Maybe my least favorite aspect

5:58

of this is it enables the scam

6:01

of the current college university

6:05

money suck to continue.

6:08

Right yep.

6:08

That is the uh one

6:11

of the results of this is why are they ever

6:13

going to have to deal with prices?

6:14

There's no pressure on that.

6:17

Right right. It's like there's a criminal in town

6:20

defrauding people. You go to the government

6:22

and say he stole fifty thousand dollars from me.

6:24

The government says, why don't we just let's

6:26

not worry about it. Here's fifty thousand dollars.

6:28

Okay, just be on your way. Now, be on

6:31

your way. Because the universities

6:33

are a giant for profit scam and they vote

6:35

Democrat almost entirely.

6:36

So the Biden Harris administration used

6:39

something in the Public

6:43

Service Loan Forgiveness PSLF

6:45

plan that got passed during COVID,

6:49

and they're taking money out of that to help

6:51

our public servants not have to pay for their college.

6:53

Well, if we decide is a country that we think firefighters,

6:56

nurses, and teachers shouldn't have

6:58

to pay for their student loans. Okay, let's vot on that

7:00

and have some legislation. But the president

7:02

just deciding that and the rest of US

7:04

taxpayers picking up the bill. Maybe

7:06

you paid. Maybe you're a firefighter,

7:09

but you went ahead and paid for your kid to go to college.

7:12

You know, cash lived a frugal life.

7:14

That was stupid. Should have taken out a big loan and gone

7:16

to USC.

7:17

Well, you went to Chico instead of USC because

7:19

it was cheaper than that was a mistake. Go to the expensive

7:21

college, take out the loans and wait for the government

7:24

to the taxpayer to bail you out.

7:26

God, it's so maddening. Yeah, it

7:28

is, absolutely and it.

7:29

Keeps happening, and there doesn't seem to be any

7:32

Trump should mention this every time he talks.

7:35

Oh, I think it would resonate like crazy with

7:37

the core Trump crowd, although he's

7:39

already got them. It's so

7:42

obvious what's going on here, just this desperation

7:46

to hang on to young voters for

7:48

Biden and the Democrats, because whether

7:50

it's the Israel Hamas thing

7:53

or the fact that he promised

7:55

then didn't deliver the transferring

7:57

their loans to other taxpayers, they're

8:00

desperate, desperate for young people to come out.

8:02

So they're just pandering the

8:04

most you know, obscene

8:06

and probably illegal ways.

8:10

Speaking of redistribution and

8:12

how it can't last, and it's annoying to

8:14

me.

8:15

I love this story.

8:16

This is my favorite story that came across in the last twenty

8:18

four hours from the Wall Street Journal. The Russian

8:20

threat forces Europe to choose

8:23

either bolster your defense or protect

8:25

social spending. But you can't do both.

8:28

Fine, you'd love that one. Finally,

8:30

the rubber meets the road on this. So

8:33

after hearing all our lives about you,

8:36

know how in name

8:38

your European country, they get nine

8:41

weeks of vacation and get to

8:43

retire at fifty five with

8:45

a full pension. And it

8:47

always seemed.

8:47

Like, oh, why that's unfair. How come we don't get that in

8:49

the United States.

8:51

Well, a lot of the reason is they

8:53

didn't have to provide national

8:56

security. Our biggest expense, well,

8:58

actually, up until recently, our basic Our biggest

9:00

expense now is paying our

9:03

debt on our loan any

9:07

the interest, paying the interest on the

9:09

debt that we've created. But

9:11

for a most of our history, our biggest expense

9:14

has been national defense. We spend more than

9:16

anybody else in the world, you

9:18

know, oftentimes multiples of

9:20

every other country added together. But

9:23

these other countries didn't have to do that because they knew that

9:25

the United States would come to their protection

9:27

if the Soviet Union moved

9:30

on. Whatever European

9:32

country. Well, those days are over. They don't

9:34

feel like they can count on NATO or the United States,

9:36

and now they're finally having to rearrange

9:39

their social contract, said

9:41

the Lithuanian foreign minister, who

9:44

has warned that Russia will eventually attack NATO

9:46

countries if it isn't defeated in Ukraine. They're

9:48

going to have to change the structure

9:50

of their society. No more

9:53

giant hammock where you get to retired

9:55

an early age, you get a gazillion weeks of vacation.

9:58

Cradle the graves say, you can't

10:00

afford it anymore.

10:02

Yeah. One clarification is that the

10:05

defense is the biggest non I'm

10:08

sorry, the biggest discretionary spending

10:11

aside from the entitlements. Although

10:14

with the defense and homeland security over

10:17

sixteen percent of what the.

10:18

Federal government spends.

10:20

If you added that to

10:22

social security and health and that sort of thing, yeah,

10:24

we would have that sort of safety net

10:27

ert hammock European system.

10:29

I gotta believe that is not going to be pain free

10:33

because it has been a couple of generations

10:35

that have been able to count on the cradle

10:37

to grave giant safety

10:39

hammock in all those European countries. And if

10:41

that is going to get paired way down, Oh,

10:44

that's going to hurt. Talking about expectations,

10:47

yipes.

10:48

What's interesting, I'm looking at various

10:51

versions of the pie chart pie

10:56

charts, and for some

10:58

reason, they don't include interest on

11:00

the debt specifically, it's lumped

11:02

in other Why would

11:05

you do that if

11:07

you're going to go to the trouble of baking a pie chart,

11:09

bake it right, jackasses.

11:13

How about this reality?

11:16

Europe would need at least twenty

11:19

years to build

11:21

a European force capable of reversing

11:23

a Russian invasion of Lithuania, according

11:25

to analysis came out

11:27

in twenty nineteen. So they were counting on the

11:30

United States. That's without the United States.

11:32

With the United States, you could count on it because

11:34

you know we were going to stop it. But now that

11:36

they're thinking maybe the United States won't

11:38

stop it, they need twenty years

11:41

to build up a force that could keep Russia

11:43

from invading Lithuania.

11:45

I didn't particularly like the way he went about

11:47

it in some ways, but Trump was one hundred percent

11:49

right calling NATO on their

11:51

bull crap and our

11:54

allies.

11:54

One hundred percent right.

11:56

Again, some of the things he said I thought were terrible,

11:58

But in principle, y'all

12:01

got to step up, and y'all got to step up

12:03

now, and it.

12:04

Looks exactly the right thing to do, and it

12:06

looks like it's gonna happen.

12:08

Trump abandoning NATO, Well

12:11

again, I wouldn't have threatened it exactly.

12:12

The way he did.

12:15

But come on, you can't in good conscience

12:17

argue with the fact that he was right and he got

12:19

results.

12:23

Quick. Yes or no. Question. Do you think sho Heo

12:25

Tani is betting on baseball or

12:28

sports?

12:30

No, but my level of

12:32

certainty is low. Wild

12:36

guess.

12:38

His interpreter says that Shoeotani

12:41

gave him that four and a half million dollars to cover

12:44

gambling debts. Would

12:46

you do that for someone else's gambling

12:48

debts? Now, the story out

12:51

today is that the interpreter stole the money

12:53

from shoe Atani. Does your interpreter have

12:55

enough access to your finances to

12:58

steal four and a half million dollars from you?

13:00

Why would the.

13:00

Guy was truly devious, he might

13:03

be able to. Why would your interpreter

13:05

have enough financial access

13:07

to take four and a half million dollars from you? Well,

13:11

if he's an insidious person,

13:13

dishonest and clever, as

13:17

you were having him do things for

13:19

you with various financial

13:21

institutions, investment brokers or whatever,

13:24

he would think, Oh, I'm keeping this what's

13:26

that password again? There? Show hey?

13:30

Home run a sixty nine.

13:32

Ortimation point exactly?

13:36

Okay? I'm just Jina jet Is down here.

13:40

Who knows. This

13:43

has the smell of

13:45

something. I

13:48

mean, obviously I was going to say something on tooward is going

13:50

on, that's obvious, but it's not

13:52

quite what it seems. I just don't know what

13:55

what is exciting more of the ways there.

14:05

New research is adding that remote

14:07

learning during the pandemic was a key driver

14:10

of academic declines.

14:11

We know from the nation's report card.

14:13

Reading scores for thirteen year olds fell by four

14:15

points in the twenty twenty two twenty twenty

14:17

three school year compared to the year before the pandemic,

14:20

so twenty nineteen twenty twenty when it comes

14:22

to math scores nine points

14:24

for thirteen year olds.

14:25

Wow.

14:25

Reading and math scores for thirteen year olds fell.

14:28

At all levels, even.

14:29

You know, high performers and low performers, but

14:31

they were much larger these declines for lower performing

14:34

students.

14:35

I can't think about it or talk about it anymore. I

14:37

guess that's the way the country is, which is why we don't think

14:39

or talk about it. It was obvious

14:42

from the first week that zoom

14:44

learning was worthless, and

14:46

nobody talked about it for some reason.

14:49

Well, yeah,

14:51

yeah, I think people were talking

14:54

about it, but they weren't. Their

14:56

voices were drown out by the teachers unions, primarily

15:00

which because of honest concern about

15:03

teachers' health and much

15:05

more frequently an opportunity to

15:07

use it as a negotiating leverage,

15:10

wouldn't let the kids back in school. It was absolutely

15:12

obscene.

15:13

You know, I haven't.

15:16

I'm slightly less pessimistic

15:19

that all of the lessons we should have learned

15:21

won't be learned because there

15:24

has been a fair amount of coverage of

15:27

this survey and similar stuff fairly

15:30

recently.

15:32

There seems to be some reckoning with

15:34

the mistake.

15:34

So then your optimistic view is if

15:36

we had another pandemic, we might do better.

15:39

Well, we're probably not going to have another pandemic.

15:41

And then the people that foisted this upon

15:43

us and our children paid no price

15:45

for it zero. In fact, they

15:47

were mostly rewarded. Yeah,

15:51

yeah, I would agree with all of that.

15:54

All I'm asking is that people are

15:56

aware of it so they can better look out

15:58

for their interests in the future,

16:00

whether it's another pandemic or just for

16:03

whatever reason. I just don't

16:05

think there's any downside to people

16:07

understanding what happened and

16:10

in fact, that's that's got to be the starting

16:12

point. Whether that flowers

16:14

into something more significant like you're suggesting,

16:16

I don't know, but you know that's

16:18

that's enough for me, just admit

16:21

it.

16:23

They did some polling in Gaza

16:27

in the West Bank that

16:29

I think you'll find disturbing. We can

16:31

get to that coming up a little bit later.

16:33

And there's so much I'd love to squeeze into the

16:35

show, but we don't have a lot of time, Like why

16:38

people swear so blank in much these days?

16:40

So you blank in bunch of mother blankers.

16:42

You swear so blank and much, you know, it's

16:45

hard to blank and listen to you.

16:46

Well, So starting with the premise, you believe

16:49

everybody swears more than they used to.

16:51

I do, yes, yes,

16:54

although it's more complicated than that, for reasons

16:57

I know you're oh arnold,

17:00

for reasons I know you're familiar with different

17:02

words become normalized

17:05

through time. And so an

17:09

F bomb now is not what an F

17:11

bomb used to be. It's like obscenity inflation.

17:13

Yeah, an F bomb is like an S bomb from

17:16

thirty years ago. Yes, definitely.

17:19

Yeah. Theah Armstrong

17:22

and.

17:22

Getty, a

17:24

couple of the kids had these little bottles of nutmeg

17:27

in their bags.

17:27

What do you have nutmeg for?

17:30

And they were like, oh, culinary quest. So

17:32

then they're at lunch and she's talking

17:34

to the culinary teacher and she was like, what

17:36

are you guys making that needs that much nutmeg?

17:40

And the culinary teacher said, what are you talking

17:42

about?

17:42

We're not making.

17:43

Anything with nutmeg.

17:44

Well, the resource officer overheard them

17:47

and he was like, you remember what, students.

17:49

The resource officer goes in the classroom, looks

17:51

in their backpacks and finds little jars and nutmeg.

17:54

They're all suspended because these flipping teenagers

17:56

have figured out that you can use nutmeg to

17:59

get high.

18:01

How do you get high off nutmeg? It's

18:07

you smoke it, nord it or smoke

18:09

it. And just surely they're not shooting it

18:11

up.

18:11

I know your lifestyle, Michael, do you probably know? I

18:14

have no idea?

18:18

Well, and what do they call it? Ginger breading

18:21

or something.

18:21

Like that, grandma's

18:27

kitchen.

18:29

Hey, you want to get in grandma's kitchen?

18:32

Oh yeah, I'm down.

18:34

Let's get it right in the kitchen.

18:35

So why does what do you have

18:38

for us there?

18:38

Katie? So it's saying that there.

18:40

Apparently when your body metabolizes

18:43

that, it forms

18:45

a form of md M A like, uh,

18:49

like an ecstasy?

18:50

Like how many in my grandma's muffins would I have

18:53

to eat before this would happen? I

18:56

mean, how much nutmeg do I need to consume as

18:59

a man who primary ingests it during

19:01

the eggnog season? I don't think I had a single

19:03

eggnog last Christmas season.

19:05

You've lost the joy

19:07

of life.

19:09

No, that's not true. I did have an

19:11

agnog. It's not I have lost the joy of life,

19:13

but I had an agnog. I was told one to

19:15

three seeds.

19:17

Really, that's all it takes.

19:18

Yeah, it says one to three seeds or five

19:20

to thirty grams of it ground for

19:24

itinogenic properties.

19:26

Okay, so you got a wolf down a bunch

19:28

of nutmeg. Okay.

19:29

So why is everybody blank

19:32

and swearing so blank and much?

19:33

I don't know if I can actually answer that, But I found this

19:35

article to be just really entertaining

19:38

and funny and

19:41

informative too. Coming up, what's

19:44

really the most obscene thing you

19:46

could have said in the Middle Ages?

19:48

And I'll use the.

19:49

Word on the air.

19:50

That's right, Stay with us. So

19:55

I'm going to use the word bunt. My

19:58

kids costs way more than I did at their age.

20:01

They hear way more cursing

20:03

than I did at their age.

20:07

So this piece that was written by somebody named

20:09

Constance Grady for vox

20:11

dot com, which is in its politics

20:13

insufferable, but I thought this was pretty interesting.

20:16

She starts with.

20:18

The sea word crap. No,

20:22

my kids, the sea word is crap, or at

20:24

least that's they did. I don't know about my eighth grader,

20:27

he probably doesn't anymore. But no, we're

20:29

talking about bunt, laying

20:31

down a bunt.

20:32

If you will see you in Toledo, yes

20:35

exactly, one may as well begin

20:37

with all the bunts. Over

20:39

the past few years, my social media feeds

20:41

have been gradually filled up with people, largely

20:44

American cis. White women in their

20:46

thirties, never use the term cis ever,

20:49

congratulating themselves on serving

20:53

c what.

20:55

I don't hear that word. I don't think I've ever

20:57

said that word, and I don't and

21:00

I don't hear it very often.

21:02

You know.

21:02

I became aware a long time ago that among

21:06

Brits it just means like it's

21:09

dudes. It's

21:11

like a friendly

21:15

derogatory term for your friend.

21:17

Well, I live long enough that the sea word

21:19

is mainstreamed and just said all the

21:21

time.

21:22

Yes, yes you will. In fact, that's what she's saying.

21:24

Among American women in their thirties,

21:27

like online, the more online culture,

21:30

that people use it all the time to describe

21:33

fashions, to describe themselves

21:36

having sex.

21:37

No use it, use it in context

21:40

so that I understand what you mean when you use it in fashion.

21:44

Congratulating themselves on serving

21:46

bunt bunty little

21:48

library glasses are all the rage.

21:54

Beyonce in Pure Honey

21:56

sings bunty bunt, bunt

21:59

bunt. I'm told,

22:02

I know, I know. Does it's

22:07

mainstreamed among women

22:10

in their thirties apparently? So

22:13

anyway, let's move on from that because it's making me really

22:15

too.

22:15

I'm sweating.

22:18

Our boss is about to die. Uh

22:21

so that is only the latest we've

22:24

got one. Right there, Katie wants to weigh in.

22:27

You what what

22:29

the hell?

22:30

I don't know how you're supposed to use the word.

22:32

I'm having trouble figuring out the context.

22:34

So what you have is a woman?

22:36

Yes, well you tell us are you are?

22:39

Are you referring to other women?

22:40

By that or yes, and

22:43

it replaces the word that rhymes

22:45

with itch quite okay, okay,

22:48

I see, so it's gone from.

22:51

Kind of a friend and.

22:53

It's also a way of saying I'm having

22:56

sex. It is among

23:00

this person's online

23:02

circle. Yeah, New York hipster writer.

23:05

Okay, okay, I I haven't heard of

23:07

it for that, but among my circle of friends,

23:09

bunt and bunty are quite common

23:12

but degatory. But it's derogatory,

23:15

and I do know that in Australia and Ireland,

23:17

like the UK, yeah, bunt is like that's

23:19

your mate.

23:21

Because I remember when somebody we worked

23:23

with it they were younger than us. But this is quite

23:25

a few years ago. But one woman coming and say

23:27

what what's up?

23:29

What she said?

23:30

Hey, And I was like what that's like a

23:33

okay, cool greeting. Now it wasn't

23:35

when I was younger, but but

23:38

let's see, is becoming that kind

23:41

of that can that those.

23:42

Words like uh.

23:45

And we

23:48

can say those it's okay, but it

23:50

feels it.

23:52

It just gives me the yeah, I don't know, but those

23:54

can be terms of endearment like amongst

23:56

really close.

23:57

To try that on a woman today, see

23:59

if it comes off as a during mister bunt on

24:01

me, so let me know how that goes.

24:02

Didn't feel good? Yeah, didn't

24:05

feel good? I have one no wow, yeah,

24:07

low moment.

24:08

That is the wrong way, Jack Michael,

24:10

am I wrong low moment for I think?

24:12

So yeah, let's let's

24:14

please move on.

24:16

So the aforementioned, well not mentioned

24:19

word is the only the latest in a series of

24:21

previously unspeakable words that have overtime

24:23

become trendy to say. The F bomb

24:26

is now in such widespread use that

24:28

it has come to seem a little antiquated that you can't

24:30

say it on network TV, and

24:33

TV long ago gave up trying to ban

24:35

phrases like ass and pissed off,

24:37

although they were once considered so obscene.

24:41

Lenny Bruce was arrested for using

24:43

them. Wow, and folks,

24:46

that wasn't nineteen ten, That was nineteen sixty

24:48

nine. Is that roughly right

24:50

for Lenny Bruce getting arrested or was it just

24:52

a little earlier than that, maybe

24:55

more like the early sixties. I

24:57

think early sixties. Yeah, early sixties

24:59

is you can look it up, and

25:02

then then it gets into the part that I really

25:05

enjoyed.

25:07

That was nineteen sixty one.

25:09

Thank you in the face of all these dirty

25:11

words, A person might be forgiven for asking why

25:13

the blank or people swear so blanket

25:15

much these days, And then they

25:17

go into this book in praise of profanity.

25:21

That says it's hard

25:23

to prove that they are.

25:25

That's for a number of methodological reasons

25:27

right to the author Michael Adams. For one thing, while people

25:29

swear a lot on social media, it's hard to show

25:31

that social media users are representative of

25:33

the population. And for another, we don't

25:36

have a real sense of how people swore fifty years

25:38

ago, as they failed to keep detailed

25:40

records.

25:41

True, I know,

25:44

I wish I swore less. It's

25:46

always I always feel like it's

25:48

a lazy it's

25:51

just it's just it's just not good

25:53

on most levels. It's course, it's

25:56

not creative, it's not

25:59

very descriptive.

26:00

If you over use various words.

26:02

Yeah, it's often obscenities

26:04

are used as what they call intensifiers.

26:07

It signals that I really really mean

26:09

this. There are other ways to do that

26:12

that are more difficult. You have to think about

26:14

it or have a better vocabulary. So it is, it

26:16

is lazy, but it works. It does work

26:18

with my kids.

26:19

They know if I use certain words, I'm

26:21

quite serious about what is happening.

26:24

On the other hand, we all know somebody

26:27

who says, to tell you what, I went to the blanke in store

26:29

and the blank and bread was so blank and fresh, I couldn't

26:31

blank and believe it. And it loses

26:34

its intensifying power.

26:35

Brank and feet hurt. Yeah, exactly always.

26:38

But they make the point that if people aren't swearing

26:40

more than they used to, they certainly are swearing differently

26:43

than they're used to, said a different professor

26:45

who wrote a book called What

26:47

the f What swearing reveals about

26:50

our language, our brains, and ourselves. The

26:52

specific words that are judged to be a profane

26:54

change over time. We all know that. But we're

26:56

currently experiencing a lot of flux. And exactly

26:58

how offensive particular judged to be

27:01

with an L flux? Yes,

27:05

you really are on edge. Flux?

27:09

Was that word?

27:10

One of the harshest medieval swears

27:12

you could say was zounds zounds

27:18

like or ere a zounds,

27:22

show me your zounds. No, that

27:24

was a contraction in a

27:27

weird way. Don't question it. Of Christ's

27:29

wounds by

27:33

zounds. By Christ's wounds was

27:36

the strongest, most horrifying

27:38

thing you could say. And

27:41

I wish I could read this to you. Oh this

27:43

is so priceful, priceless. Rather,

27:46

I'm sorry I'm reading and talking at the same time. In

27:48

her book Holy S, A Brief History

27:50

of Swearing, which I actually own a copy of, Melissa

27:53

Moore notes that both London and Oxford

27:55

boasted medieval streets called

28:03

I'm gonna use bunt again, Grope

28:07

bunt Lane, okay,

28:11

And then she writes,

28:13

by a medieval country pond and

28:16

I can't read this. There

28:18

would have been a blank row in

28:21

there, fishing, a wind, blanker

28:23

flying above, blank smart

28:25

and blank blank hugging

28:28

the edges of the pond, and a blank

28:30

amongst the grass. Those are

28:33

in today's sadly unvivid terminology,

28:35

the birds heron and kestrel, the

28:38

plant's water pepper, whorehound,

28:40

and dandelions. But a

28:42

lot of them had names that were perfectly

28:45

fine at the time, but it involved

28:48

words that are considered implite or

28:50

obscene now. It's like a weather

28:53

vane was a weather cock, but

28:55

people don't say that now because

28:57

you know there are

28:59

and there are other examples of that. Actually, that word

29:02

meaning a rooster, well, a

29:04

rooster when the cock crows blah

29:06

blah blah used

29:09

to be in all sorts of expressions that

29:11

have come out of favor and

29:13

have had more quote unquote polite substitutes

29:15

made for them. Because that word has gone from

29:17

unlike the F bomb or the C bomb,

29:20

which has gone from utterly unacceptable

29:22

to common among certain people, that

29:24

one went the opposite way, which is interesting.

29:29

Hmmm.

29:30

So in the Middle Ages,

29:32

like zounds, was genuinely

29:35

shocking, which is why even today

29:37

our vocabulary we're talking about profanity

29:40

is religiously inflected. We talk about oaths

29:42

and swearing and cursing because in the Middle Ages,

29:44

to invoke God out loud meant

29:47

that God was going to pay attention to whatever you were

29:49

promising. When you said ged

29:51

it, you were swearing before God

29:54

and summoning God as your witness

29:56

to what was being said. And that

29:58

was like, dude, you don't you I don't summon the

30:00

Almighty over you're mad at

30:03

the quality of the ham.

30:04

I just gd it. These pancakes

30:06

are good.

30:08

Well right, yeah, yeah, that would be just

30:10

shocking. And there are a fair number

30:12

of people who still take taking the Lord's name in vain

30:14

very seriously and to the extent that we annoy

30:17

you with it, we apologize.

30:18

It's just it's just we're

30:20

not going to change. Well

30:23

that too.

30:25

This author of Holy

30:28

S A Brief History of Swearing, which again I recommend

30:30

highly, points

30:32

out that bodily words were unremarkable

30:35

in the Middle Ages because there was so little

30:37

privacy from anybody's bodies,

30:40

shared bedrooms, no indoor plumbing,

30:42

defecation and sex happened more or less openly,

30:45

and there was no point in being delicate about it

30:47

with your language.

30:48

We thought about that before.

30:49

If you're going to have sex for even if it just

30:51

for procreation, and you got

30:54

six kids in all basically one room

30:56

hunt, where would you do it when, wherever

30:59

you.

31:00

Happen to be, when you happen to want

31:02

to So I

31:04

can't lie a lot,

31:08

Michael, that's so annoying. But

31:10

it was in the fifteenth century

31:12

and especially the nineteenth century, the height

31:14

of the Victorian era, that that stuff

31:17

became quote unquote unmentionable.

31:23

Yeah.

31:23

I mean, if you got a big chamber

31:25

pot out in the middle of your one room hut,

31:28

everybody's gonna see it, and

31:32

nobody's.

31:32

Gonna say, oh, don't talk about pooping.

31:34

There's a pile of it right there,

31:37

or everybody pretending like they don't do that.

31:41

There's more of this.

31:41

We'll post it at armstrong and getty dot com

31:44

under hot links. I think you will enjoy

31:46

it. It's it's funny. Now.

31:48

I know if I have a time machine and land in the Middle

31:50

Ages, I can drop a zounds on people and get

31:52

their attention.

31:54

Well, no, I'm serious. We'll finish

31:56

strong next.

32:05

Creditors want to force Rudy Giuliani

32:07

to sell his three point five million dollar Florida

32:10

condo to help pay off is nearly one hundred

32:12

and fifty two million dollars in debt.

32:14

These are crazy times today. Rudy called Trump like

32:17

could I stay with you?

32:17

And Trump was like, I was gonna ask you the same thing, man.

32:22

Rudy Giuliani makes

32:24

Tiger Woods seem like Tom

32:26

Hanks in terms of falls from

32:28

grace.

32:29

Oh yeah, yeah, oj Like

32:33

wow, he

32:35

was.

32:36

America's mayor after nine to eleven. Seemed

32:38

like he's showing to be president someday.

32:41

Everybody respected him, valued

32:43

his judgment and steady hand

32:46

on the till and what.

32:49

Yeah tiller tiller not

32:51

the till tiller.

32:54

Yeah wow, that's something did he lose was he

32:56

always this way or did he lose his mind?

32:57

Does anybody know? I guess we don't know.

33:02

Thought.

33:04

Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts,

33:06

Joe Getty.

33:07

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to

33:09

wrap things up for the day. There is our technical director.

33:12

He'll lead us off. Michael, just trying

33:14

to calm down. When we were doing that segment about

33:17

the history of swearing, I was so close

33:19

to the dumb button at all times, So I'm just

33:21

trying to calm down back here.

33:22

Her professionals, Michael, We're not going to accidentally

33:25

say a bad word.

33:26

You're looking a little twitchy in there. Yeah.

33:28

Katie Green are esteemed newswoman.

33:30

Has a final thought, Katie, Well, you guys get

33:32

ready because I'm changing my title from Katie the News

33:34

Lady to Katie the News bunt no bo

33:37

no no.

33:40

Yeah.

33:40

Yeah.

33:40

A final thought please as it goes more

33:43

mainstream. Oh no, I

33:45

just saw this headline. Pensions

33:47

are popular recent survey saw it fines.

33:50

Some wonder if firms will bring them back. Huh

33:53

really so some sort of deal where you

33:55

get paid for.

33:55

The rest of your life after you work somewhere that's

33:57

popular.

33:58

You like that?

33:58

Da? Okay, I mean too. Are

34:00

they going to come back? No, they aren't.

34:03

My final thought is I'm so interested in the change

34:05

in real estate commissions and how that's going to shake out

34:07

going forward, and how nobody's really sure.

34:10

I mean, for instance, now the buyers got

34:12

to write a check to their own realtor

34:16

as they're writing a check to buy the house and

34:18

the rest of it, and can't finance it into the mortgage

34:20

like they.

34:21

Used to in a fact, Wow, So

34:24

I didn't realize that well.

34:25

Right, because you know, the buyer's agents

34:28

share came out of the seller's money,

34:30

which really became part of the price of the house,

34:33

which is part of which is your mortgage.

34:34

Yeah, and get divided up over thirty years as opposed

34:37

to write a check for nine thousand dollars or

34:40

whatever.

34:40

Nobody's quite sure where this is going.

34:43

Wow.

34:43

As a hopeful buyer this summer,

34:46

I'm wondering myself. Armstrong,

34:48

you get you wrapping up another grueling four hour

34:50

workday.

34:51

So many people, thanks so little time. Go to Armstrong

34:54

and getty dot com. These great articles

34:56

and stories we referred to. They're

34:58

under hot links. You can find them there, I'm strong

35:00

in giddy dot com. Pick up some swag while you're there.

35:02

By T shirt helps keep everybody on the payroll. We'll

35:04

see you for the Friday Show tomorrow. God bless

35:07

America. I'm

35:10

strong and Getty.

35:11

We were going to be bigger than Russia and Saudi

35:13

Arabia put together times too.

35:15

But damn it, that's insane. The reality

35:17

is why after lie after

35:20

lie, I'm gone call my lawyer.

35:23

So let's go with a bang.

35:24

One of my kids said either the other

35:26

day, and I said, look, we're not in either family. I

35:30

grew up in either person. Grandpa'sn't

35:32

either person. We're either people. We're not

35:34

either people.

35:35

All right, let I know, thanks you all very much.

35:37

Armstrong and Getty

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