0:00

Just take the pill.

0:01

It's one more thing.

0:05

One more. I

0:07

love it when Michael leads the podcast. No,

0:10

yes, just take the pill, you said,

0:13

do tell. I am intrigued.

0:17

Okay, So I've been trying

0:19

to get healthy along with my wife. So we're both

0:21

going to the gym together. Good for you doing It's

0:23

almost every day now, so we're doing really well.

0:25

What do you mostly do yourself?

0:26

Great?

0:27

Yeah, uh, cardio and then a waits

0:29

a few.

0:29

Days a week. What's your cardio of choice?

0:32

We're doing the recumbent bike.

0:33

It's a recumbent bike. I do not even know.

0:36

Basically, it's a sit down bicycle. Okay,

0:38

So I'm doing that and I do about forty five

0:40

minutes to an hour.

0:42

Wow, Joe. Joe might know the answer to this because

0:44

he does a lot of exercise. What what is? Because

0:46

I see these all over the place. What's the in theory

0:48

advantage of a bicycle where you're sitting as opposed

0:51

to sitting up on top of them?

0:53

It's easier on your prostate for one

0:55

thing, I don't imagine the

0:57

lovely missus Michael is worried about that.

0:59

So you get all the benefits of the peddling without

1:02

sitting on that tiny little seat and bent over. Yeah,

1:05

more uncomfortable. It makes sense.

1:06

I always I was always an elliptical man, because

1:08

you know, it works all sorts of body groups, these

1:11

legs, your corey, your arms while

1:13

getting your heart rate up. But my back

1:15

doctor doesn't my trainer guy

1:17

doesn't want me to doing that.

1:19

I got a great elliptical machine in my living

1:21

room. I mean a really top notch from

1:23

a gym elliptical machine.

1:25

It's so I give you ten bucks for it is

1:29

supposed to use it being used as an elliptical

1:31

or a clothing rack.

1:32

I've had it for seven

1:36

years. I've probably

1:38

cumulative been on it eleven

1:40

minutes in seven

1:43

years.

1:44

That's that's significantly more than a minute a year

1:46

though, So that's pretty good.

1:47

And you got to build up from that, use that as as

1:49

starting place, and then right next year

1:52

try to get on it for two minutes. Oh yeah, you don't want

1:54

to hurt yourself back to.

1:56

Two minutes for the whole year, right, Yes, So.

1:59

I can do treadmill anymore because of the ulster that

2:01

I had from diabetes to my foot. It

2:03

is healed up. But they're a little bit worried that if I keep

2:05

pounding on, it'll reopen. So

2:09

I just wish to recumbent.

2:10

Okay, welcome to Ulcer Talk.

2:12

So no, so my wife

2:14

and I we know anything.

2:15

Else it's about to open back up again? Or can we move

2:17

on to now? We're all good?

2:24

Label this podcast? Joe

2:26

disavows. It's

2:30

the matter with you people.

2:31

So the wife and I are at Costco and mind you, we've

2:34

been working out, okay, and we see somebody

2:36

that we recognize that we used to go to the gym

2:38

with, and we hadn't seen her for about eight or nine months.

2:40

And we look and we say, is that such

2:43

and such? And I go, I think it is. So

2:45

I walk over there and I go are you? And

2:47

she goes, hey, how's it going? And she recognizes

2:49

my wife and I and she looks

2:52

fantastic. Wow, I mean,

2:54

her body is amazing. And it's just like, well,

2:59

now here's what happened.

3:00

So I say, hey, her body

3:03

on a hold on.

3:04

I didn't say it quite that way. I said,

3:06

that's such and such. I said, wow, she looks like

3:08

she's lost a lot of weight. And

3:10

my wife says, yeah, yeah, she has it looks like And

3:13

then so she comes over and she starts talking to us

3:15

and says, hey, guys, how's it going, and

3:17

you know, good good? So are you still going the gym?

3:19

I guess you've been doing gym working stuff. She goes, oh,

3:21

no, I've quit the gym completely. I'm

3:23

doing I'm doing injections

3:26

now, and she's doing the ozembic

3:28

and something else that she's

3:30

I was nauseous for like eight months,

3:33

She's all, but it's finally gone away, and I've been

3:35

able to eat junk, and you

3:38

know, I've lost all this weight.

3:40

And she looked incredible, but at the same time

3:43

she was saying, you know, I can he junk.

3:46

I don't have to go to the gym anymore. And

3:48

my wife and I are looking at each other because we're working so

3:51

hard. Yeah, and our progress is so slow.

3:53

Right, there's a combination

3:56

of it. It is hard, it's time consuming,

3:59

and it is slow.

4:01

But the way you guys are doing it is sustainable.

4:03

This ozempic stuff. I mean, you

4:06

hear all the stories about as soon as people get off

4:08

of it, they balloon back even more.

4:10

We what if you just stay on it though the rest of

4:12

your life.

4:13

It's expensive, of course, I've known plenty

4:15

of people me who've dieted

4:18

and exercised and lost a lot of weight and then

4:20

the same thing happens. Yeah,

4:22

right, you claim, you may claim it's

4:25

sustainable.

4:25

But right, I've done that. So what

4:28

am I talking about? Yeah, the

4:30

fact almost everybody regains their weight

4:32

back, I mean statistically, So yeah, it's not

4:34

just ozempic you can do. You

4:36

can do the good hard workout every

4:38

day, eat right, and gain it back like

4:41

like ninety percent of people do.

4:43

On the other hand, so Michael Angelo, do you have a

4:45

point of view? Are you advocating for

4:48

the injection or the pill or something.

4:49

That's what this is about. Actually, I was asking

4:52

my wife. You know, she walked away and I

4:54

looked at my wife and I said.

4:55

After watching her ask I went right, damn, yeah.

4:59

She did look good.

5:00

I gotta admit, look at that. Now.

5:04

My wife she's all, I know what you saw, and I'm

5:06

all, yeah, yeah, I know. But

5:09

I said, we're doing it slow, but I'm happy

5:11

with what we're doing. Yeah, And we are talking

5:14

on the way home, you know, should we try that?

5:16

And then she said no, you know, I do not

5:19

want to be monocious for eight months?

5:21

Right, Well, putting that aside, though

5:24

I see the appeal

5:27

end or value of losing the weight more quickly.

5:30

But don't forget your heart, your lungs,

5:32

your bones, your muscles, everything is benefiting

5:34

from this, whereas that gal's just skinnier.

5:37

Right, That's what I told you is an excellent point,

5:39

right there. Joe Getty throws in and.

5:40

Thank you, thank you so much.

5:42

And your brain, from something I was just reading about,

5:44

really helps you. Exercising is so good for your brain

5:46

and holding off dementia and all these different

5:48

sorts of things that those zimpias or

5:50

whatever it's called is not going to help with. But

5:53

I can certainly understand that because like

5:55

right now, I'm not exercising, uh as

5:57

much as i'd like to, but i am. I've been very

6:00

disciplined eating wise now for about three weeks,

6:02

and it's a freaking battle all day

6:04

every day. I mean, it's NonStop,

6:06

every moment you're awake to

6:08

be just I'm trying to get back to

6:11

used to being hungry, because it feels to me like, if

6:13

you're gonna lose weight, you just got to get used

6:15

to being hungry all the time.

6:16

Agreed. Yeah, Now, the other day when you

6:18

were constantly on the verge of vomiting. I'll bet

6:20

you didn't overeat, did you?

6:23

One more vote for Ozepic.

6:24

It's interesting in the middle of my uh

6:30

eating well, that I had that spell. But anyway,

6:33

yeah, I can understand why they'd be frustrating, because eating

6:35

right is a pain constantly the

6:38

time of exercising the effort, and

6:40

then you run into somebody looks better

6:42

and they're not. They're just taking an injection. That's

6:45

a that's a mind f feel

6:47

pardon the expression.

6:48

And she was bragging basically, she's saying, you know,

6:50

I mean, in a way, she was kind of saying, yeah, I don't

6:52

do what you guys do anymore. Look what I

6:54

look, what I look like, and I just take pills or

6:56

whatever.

6:57

None of my business. I really don't advocate

6:59

the eating crap just because the

7:03

injection's helping keep it off.

7:04

Well.

7:05

Now, on the flip side to this, I know someone

7:07

who is taking one of these

7:09

injections and it's

7:12

not working because she hasn't

7:14

changed any of her habits.

7:16

And I think this stuff is just you know, it affects

7:19

everybody differently. But I mean, she's been

7:21

on it for months and it's

7:24

you know, certain habits, you have

7:26

to cut and you have to work out.

7:28

For some people, well, I feel like you ought to

7:30

be willing to give something to

7:32

the project, not just rely

7:35

on on the chemicals.

7:38

You're giving your hard earned paycheck

7:40

to the drug. But there is a drug.

7:42

But there is a bit of discussing this like it's a

7:44

moral issue, which kind

7:47

of like seeps into your brain for no good reason, like

7:49

one is somehow against

7:52

morality and one is the right way to do

7:54

it or something. There's a total stigma

7:56

against them.

7:57

If you look online, if you see anybody

7:59

on line who's is showing, oh, look at my weight

8:02

loss. If you go into the comments, guaranteed

8:04

within the first five.

8:05

Somebody's like, oh ozempic right,

8:08

all of them. Also, you don't get toned up

8:10

at all on ozempic. I assume so your weight came

8:12

off, because I know somebody actually lost

8:15

a tremendous amount of weight recently and they

8:17

got some weird skin

8:19

flabby stuff happening. Is a post if you lost and

8:21

they lost it really fast, if you lost it slower

8:24

and you're working out, and I

8:26

know what you're saying about the morality thing, and

8:28

it's hard to put your finger on. I'd have to mull it

8:30

over for a bit. But there's the question

8:32

of your doing it the natural way or the unnatural

8:35

way. On the other hand, if I have

8:37

some sort of rampant bacterial infection,

8:40

if penicillin's the unnatural way,

8:42

give me the unnatural one. Nice.

8:44

You know, I don't believe in modern medicine. I think that's cheating.

8:46

Also, that's why I got two teeth quite

8:52

a sight. I think, well, if this, if

8:54

they if they figure out this ozempic stuff

8:57

to where it works for most people, doesn't make you

8:59

sick. I think we're gonna have to get over this.

9:01

One's cheating ones, not just

9:03

from a being that overweight is not

9:05

good for you.

9:08

Uh yeah, yeah. I wonder they'll

9:11

probably fine tune the chemistry

9:13

and the dosage and that sort of thing. I wonder if you can, like

9:15

the equivalent of microdose it and

9:18

just you know, a bit of an appetite suppressant,

9:20

like the speed the ladies took in the fifties

9:22

and sixties, that sort of thing. You

9:25

don't have to be a full on meth head, just

9:27

just a little pick me up, a mother's little

9:30

helpers. The Rolling Stones put it so entertaining.

9:32

Yeah, dabble, I'm dabbling

9:35

in the world of stimulants.

9:37

Yeah, my wife asked me if she

9:39

said, if that pill was healthy, She's

9:41

all, would you want me on it? Knowing that I could look like

9:43

her, and then I and then she looked at me

9:45

and gave me the look, and I was sort of like, how

9:47

did I answer this?

9:50

I'm giving you the look and I'm not your wife. You better

9:52

answer that correctly.

9:54

Is this the show that airs after the

9:56

Bachelorette or something? It's starting to get

9:58

that feel.

10:00

You didn't at any point say break me off a piece

10:02

of that, did you. No? No, I didn't.

10:05

That's cool, thank god. Yes.

10:09

Anyway, No, I answered the right way. I said, no, I like what

10:11

we're doing, and we're gonna keep doing what we're doing, and

10:13

I like doing it as a couple. So that's that

10:15

was my answer to her.

10:16

No, that was that last part. Now,

10:18

that was some good relationship

10:20

talk, right there. A couple, that's

10:22

that's a that's a yeah, that's for the win.

10:25

Well, I guess that's it.