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Week seven Sunday in the

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books and uh

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a bit of a wild Sunday. Uh,

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some surprising outcomes, some blowouts

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in the late portion of the Sunday

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schedule. But we

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are down to two undefeated teams

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now one winless team

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unfortunately, a team that I identify with very

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closely. And um,

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some interesting football to go

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over, Greg, what do you think about today's football?

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I mean, um, when you can assign yourself

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Washington versus

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Dallas in Detroit, Atlanta early,

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it's like you've got your finger on the pulse of

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what's happening in the NFL. I mean

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I did, I

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did. I made a trade with Chuck Who's gonna

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come on later. Um, but no, it

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was a fun day, like when it's like

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when the Jets gave the Colts seventy seven

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second round picks for Sam Donald. You

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know. Sometimes Greg texted me on after

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our our network show. I'm

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saying I would really like, Um, I

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didn't want to watch the Saints game. I don't know why, I

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just I just wanted to watch. Well, he went and suggested

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that he switched with Shook, and I said, absolutely, like

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reach out to Shook and do the legwork. And then he's

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like, well, now, actually I don't think I want to do

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that. I'm overthinking it. That we never spoke

2:09

again, and then he tells me this morning that,

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you know, the Backwater channels were a

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buzz as Gregg is trading with Shook games

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without an I changed my mind again. You

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know, you guys go like more in detail,

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you charge these games. Mark kept

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it going. I had already I

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edited out. I'm not touching

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it. Oh no, this is gold Greg. Remember

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when remember when the

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the you know, our analytics expert

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here, I'm not going to even name him because I'm kind

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of mocking it here now is like, you know, make sure

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no matter what you do, it's like the first five minutes of

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the show, don't lose them with some jibber

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jabber, Like get right into the big stuff.

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That's when you lose that audience. Mission accomplished.

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Whenever we have like thirteen

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games to talk about, if we can just like bury

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the audience of seven minutes of jibber jabber,

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that's what we're gonna do. Nick Shook is coming

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later. Uh he of the big trade

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win over Rosenthal. Uh

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So stay tuned for that. But let's get

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going with Yes, the matchup in

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Nashville between two undefeated's.

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It's do or die for the Titans who have

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one time out in their pocket. Doskowski

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in this range this year. As he kicks it on its

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way, the kick is white right, it is

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all right. Wow,

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I can't even hardly believe it.

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But a nice Midwestern sound

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that was Bill Hill Grove tounch Ilkin

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with a call W D. V e. Hey,

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listen, sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

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The Titans badly outplayed the Steelers in the

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second half on Sunday, but a slow

3:45

start coupled with the latest high profile

3:48

failure by Stephen Kaskowski,

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allowed the Steelers to escape with a When

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Pittsburgh is six and oh for the first time since

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nine and now stand

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with the Seahawks as the

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only remaining undefeated teams in

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the NFL, um

4:05

boys, Uh, strange game

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here because it's Steelers

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win the coin toss. They go

4:13

on a nine minute, eighteen second drive

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ends with Deante Johnson touchdown.

4:18

Uh, they get a three and out. Pittsburgh

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does get the ball back, score another touch

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on it's fourteen. Zip. They're in complete

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control. It gets by the third

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quarter it's seven, and

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you know, my I start wandering. I'm saying, oh, what's going

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on in the NFL? Marx Browns are having

4:33

some fun with the Bengals, like, but then all

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of a sudden, the Titans start doing the

4:37

Titan thing and they get back into the game,

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and uh, they fall short because Gaskowski

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can't hit a kick that he's got a hit in that spot. So

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that's where we're at the Steelers. To

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me, um, as good as they looked in

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the first half, the second half was

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a little bit concerning. But listen,

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you can't take away what they did in those first two

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quarters. Ben Roethlisberger looked really good in the first

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have did not look very good in the second

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half. James Conner is really

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doing good things for them. Uh this

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season. I've really been impressed by him so

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far this year. And um,

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the defense was able to make

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enough stops even if it wasn't their best

5:15

effort to get the W. So the

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Steelers moved to six. And oh the

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Titans, they're kicking themselves because they had

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a golden opportunity here, uh

5:24

for a huge comeback and want to come back. That

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would have been down twenty seven seven to the

5:28

mighty Steelers. It didn't happen, and

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they're they're the reason they lost third

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downs. Titans were unable to stop

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the Steelers on third downs.

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Pittsburgh thirteen of eighteen third downs in

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the game, and they only had the ball

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for one minute and twenty one seconds in the first quarter.

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So keeping the offensive field was huge for Pittsburgh.

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I thought they took in the in the first half, Tennessee

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out of the game, and you know, this is a team

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that's played three games in thirteen days, and

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it showed a little bit. I thought, UM early

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on here, but we've talked about Big

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Ben's various troubles on on deep

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shots down the field, but what he's doing very

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well is carving

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defenses up mid range.

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And I think that they just this just strikes me

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as the most complete team, UM in

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the a f C and maybe in the league,

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because of what they can do on defense. But also

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you know, they got one catch from Chase Claypool

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today and so in return, you know, Deonte

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Johnson steps up. You mentioned James Conner. I

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thought, you know, he's been up and down, but he made

6:24

big plays for them. And Tennessee

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to come back from a seven to seven deficit

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the way they did, um, I thought it was

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impressive. You know, Gauskowski has been a real roller

6:33

coaster ride, a true adventure, and you got the

6:35

dip today. UM, the ugly part of that.

6:38

But to me, Tennessee this doesn't take

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the shine off of who they are and what they want to be.

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They just had a first half where they

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played un characteristically. I mean, I think they

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had like thirty yards on the ground well

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the last two weeks for Guskoski, So that's

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something that they're gonna have to think about. I know he hit

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a big kick at the end of the game, but he had his struggles

6:55

last week. I see this

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as as a Steelers defense game,

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even in the second half. The

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fact that you know, they got the ball on

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a Ben interception and then

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the Steelers defense shuts down Tennessee.

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That was one of six drives,

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so to Tennessee. At ten drives in this game,

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on six of them, they didn't have a first down.

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I mean that. I know they scored some points

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on the other drives, but it's and

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the Titans are awesome. They only end

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up with fifteen first downs on the day. If you have six

7:27

drives where you go three and out or four and out like

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some of those drives were. I mean, that's that's

7:32

pretty impressive, and you would expect the Steelers

7:34

to take care of business when they do that. Yeah,

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I was really excited to um

7:38

do like a reverse when middle dunk

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on your Ben Roethlisberger game

7:43

manager assassination from Thursday

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Show, Greg and after the first

7:47

four two weeks ago, it wasn't. I'm

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not painting it as negative as you saying. I'm

7:51

just saying that's kind of the style they're playing.

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I know, but through four four drives against an

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undefeated Titans team on the road, Pittsburgh

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had put up twenty four points and Ben was

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seventeen of twenty four for one sixty and

8:03

two touchdowns. Deep shots

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or are they

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Johnson? You know, I think short and mid

8:10

mid reign shots. Yes, So that's kind of his

8:13

his game, which I guess is to your

8:15

point of the big breeze uh

8:18

moniker that you've tagged him with as

8:20

well. The rest of the game after

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those first four drives, three points fifteen

8:25

and uh three

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interceptions. The first pick was just you

8:29

know, threw it up for grabs at the end of the first half,

8:31

but the last two were definitely

8:34

on him. Although the third pick, the one

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that's set up the Titans to nearly

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tie the game, was

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Juju Smith Schuster in

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coverage against the linebacker, you know, running

8:46

around against the linebacker, couldn't get any separation.

8:48

I don't know what's going on with Juju. Is he just not a

8:50

guy that separates? I don't know, but

8:53

Ben put it in a really good spot um,

8:55

but Juju, the coverage was so tight

8:57

that he couldn't like hold onto the ball and it got knocked

8:59

out of his hand ends and then picked off on the deflection.

9:02

So nice win for

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the Steelers. But also, you know, the shot of

9:06

Big Ben on the sideline after Gaskowski went

9:08

wide right was one of we got

9:10

away with one here, because that

9:12

could have been a killer loss. But

9:15

they escape it, and uh man,

9:17

they're looking good. I think we're gonna get

9:19

to the Bucks in a bit. Mark. That's my pick for the most

9:21

balanced team in the league right now.

9:24

But the Steelers when things are clicking right

9:26

as they were early in this game, it is a reminder

9:28

that their tops gear is

9:31

pretty much ahead of everybody else. I think in a f

9:33

C maybe the Chiefs have something

9:35

to say about that. Let's move

9:37

on. In the backfield,

9:40

two receivers left, one a right, may feel

9:42

back to pass looks going towards

9:44

the end zone and it's caught by down petals.

9:47

Joe touched down. Hey got it,

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Hey got it. The Rocky fromfis got

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it back.

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Children throw unbelievable

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catch, unbelievable throw. Jim

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Donovan and Doug Deacon w k r

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K. I can't believe Donovan

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People's Jones is a real name. Like I'm

10:12

I'm thrilled that that there's a person that

10:15

goes by that name. It's like that old Key and Peel

10:17

sketch, Like that's what that name sounds like. But

10:20

he made a name for himself today, Baker

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Mayfield hits Donovan

10:24

People's Jones. Also the name you also,

10:27

you always have to say the full names. It's so wild with

10:29

eleven seconds to play, ceiling a

10:31

wild one win over

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the Bengals. This also featured

10:36

after that play, Hail Mary that very

10:38

nearly completed. That would

10:40

have been a fitting way to a wild game. Mark.

10:43

Per the Elias Sports Bureau, this

10:45

is the first game in NFL history with five

10:48

go ahead touchdown passes in

10:50

the fourth quarter by the two teams.

10:52

Mark the Cardiac kids are back. Yeah,

10:57

it's um. It was. It

10:59

was a game of two. It was two

11:01

sides of a coin for Cleveland because Baker

11:04

Mayfield, you know, and he has had his troubles

11:06

in the last couple of contests. We know that started

11:09

over five and for the second

11:11

game in a row, through an interception on the

11:13

first play and and that brought more news

11:15

because on that play Odell Beckham.

11:18

One of the reasons Donovan People's jones was,

11:20

you know in there at the end, was that Odell Beckham

11:22

went down with a knee injury. That Ian Rappaport

11:25

has Um put a tweet out saying he'll get

11:27

an m R. I but the concern is that it's very serious,

11:29

and I think we usually know how those go when

11:32

we get those Sunday reports. He was out of the game

11:34

immediately, um Baker

11:38

when he hit it, missed his first

11:40

his fifth pass. I tweeted out because

11:42

at that point Joe Burrow looked lights out. And we've

11:44

been seeing it week after week. That is Cleveland,

11:46

okay, with having the fourth best quarterback

11:49

in the a f C North, and then and

11:51

then he the

11:54

last week or so. I'm not really jumping ship.

11:56

Just look at the other quarterbacks in the division. I mean,

11:58

I I don't think he's the equal of

12:01

Joe Burrow, but Um, perhaps

12:03

psychically to lash me and and to

12:05

shut me up. He completed twenty one

12:08

passes in a row to finish the game before

12:10

spiking the ball um on the at

12:12

the end, and uh, he looked good. He looked

12:14

good throwing the ball. I thought today, Um, he made

12:16

some money throws. And on that final

12:18

drive what what what to me looked like growth

12:21

was they had no time outs and he had

12:23

to go you know, near length of the field with no time

12:25

outs and and it wouldn't have happened without some

12:28

insane catches along the way. Um, you

12:31

know Rashad Higgins, who Richard Higgins, who

12:33

has shown chemistry with Baker Mayfield

12:35

two years ago then last year was out of the loops,

12:37

seemed to be in the doghouse with the coaches. Has

12:39

come on um again and he and he's a big

12:42

part of that passing attack and he's gonna need to be. They're

12:44

gonna be without Odell Beckham. I wanted

12:46

to see what would happen with a thin receiving corps

12:49

once he went down, and I thought they showed perhaps

12:52

more chemistry than they have through the air and really

12:54

any other game. I don't know what that means. Um,

12:57

I'd want to go watch that again. But another

12:59

hair prison Bryant and today is I just

13:01

found this out today with one of the more absurd

13:04

um holidays that seems completely

13:06

created out of finnair. It's tight end day apparently,

13:09

Um, George

13:11

Kittle made it up. So is it for Please

13:13

tell me it's for a charity, because

13:15

I I stomached it today because

13:18

I was like, it must be for a cause. But if

13:20

it wasn't for a cause, I am furious. Yeah.

13:22

Now kiddo came up with it last

13:24

year, and I think they just they ran. If

13:27

it's for a cause, I mean, if it's for you know, George

13:29

Kittle's personal enjoyment, that's what

13:32

it is, right, but here to celebrate

13:35

such a day. Um, Harrison Bryant,

13:37

the rookie who we've talked about on the show before

13:39

who looks legit. Um two touchdowns,

13:41

Austin Hooper was out with a pendicitis Uh,

13:44

David and Joeku caught a past. You have to touchdown

13:47

past. You have to wonder if it's the last action

13:49

he will get in Cleveland. He's on the trade block.

13:52

Um. I can't say enough about Joe Burrow. I just

13:54

thought that there were Um, there was one

13:56

play that really Uh it was third and eleven

13:59

and Joe Burrow um took off

14:01

on a run and it just like Cleveland defend.

14:03

Cleveland's defense is a disaster and

14:06

defended it poorly and he ran for a first down,

14:08

but he made froze all over the field

14:10

and their offensive line was banged up

14:12

to at one point Jonah Williams went

14:14

out with a neck injury. Um Trey Hopkins,

14:17

their center was out, and it showed I mean

14:19

that that it's they had issues. Um

14:21

In Borrow, like he does week after week, made

14:24

plays. So I think it's fair still to say

14:26

that Baker Mayfield, in a very good division, is

14:28

the quarterback looking up at the rest of these. But this

14:31

was sort of a well

14:35

it's different, you

14:38

know, if it's Thursday night football and like I am able

14:40

just to go, you know, sitting do that. I I mistakenly

14:43

thought that I was covering Pittsburgh, Tennessee and

14:45

was tracking that heavily the entire

14:47

time, taking all these notes, and I'm discovered

14:50

two minutes into the show that I had completely botched

14:52

that and I had made a mistake. But

14:54

anyways, um, I give Cleveland credit

14:56

for being five ways to figure it out in the middle of the

14:59

show. I think it it out four minutes ago. When

15:01

you when you're um, when you're intro to

15:03

that game went on and on. I thought he's at some point is

15:05

Dan tossing this to me? I was a

15:07

communication issue this morning that I read

15:09

incorrectly. That's another it's another deep

15:12

died that I'd like to take us down and how our show is

15:14

produced. But I will I will stop there

15:16

five and two, but I you know, we'll get some of my radar

15:19

teams that have a clear ceiling. And I think Cleveland,

15:21

this is this is good progress. But they're

15:23

not five and two the same way that I look at UM

15:26

other five and two teams we've encountered. But

15:28

they could be different. You know, all these teams are gonna be different

15:30

in December. I still really believe that, And so

15:33

you you want to be five and two with

15:35

a chance to be different and hopefully better in December,

15:38

with Myles Garrett potentially UM

15:41

trying to get a Defensive Player of the Year award in

15:43

December. Every every game, like one of the first things

15:45

I do check the Brown's box score,

15:47

and I'm looking forward to watching this one is like, Okay,

15:49

did Myles Garrett get his forced fumble

15:52

today? It's like, yeah, he got it, and he got two

15:54

sacks and another tackle for loss. And and

15:56

in these games where there's not a lot of defense, and the Browns

15:59

don't have a lot of defense. A lot of times it

16:01

comes down to Kent, do you have a guy that can

16:03

make one or two plays? And Garrett kind

16:05

of makes one or two huge plays every

16:07

week, which is pretty awesome. And not

16:10

to the labor this point,

16:12

but when we had our discussion about

16:14

the importance of sacks and getting

16:16

to the quarterbacks, and it was deemed that

16:18

Jadeveon Clowney doesn't need to get sacks, and

16:20

by the way, he still has zero sacks this season.

16:23

He's struggling. He's not even getting his hurries this

16:25

year. Listen, Miles Garrett is an example

16:28

why you could say stats is an

16:30

overrated stat or something. But

16:33

that guy changes games because he gets

16:35

to the quarterback and he knocks the ball loose. He's a big

16:37

time player. You know what. The Browns strike me as Mark, I

16:40

see what you're saying with the ceiling, But they,

16:42

to me, they feel like a nine and seven

16:44

team. Maybe a bounce

16:46

goes their way and they go ten and six,

16:49

and they're playing in January in the playoffs, and they're

16:51

giving someone a hard time on

16:53

the road, like you're signing up for that in a second.

16:55

Right, absolutely, So I'm not I'm not trying to be

16:58

like, you know, covertly down on the whole situation.

17:00

I just I'm trying to view them the same way that I

17:02

viewed on the teams. Go be a

17:04

really good team. That's the next test

17:06

for them. But good job getting off the mat after

17:09

last week. Let's move on. Ricky's

17:13

not sitting at her desk.

17:16

Uh where

17:20

we live? Maybe she lost

17:22

her connection? She's now she

17:25

sat down, Now she got up again. Oh

17:27

she's had the connection. Uh,

17:30

Ricky, we should keep all this in, Ricky,

17:35

come back to us, Ricky, what's

17:42

happening? So

17:46

you see that guy that just walked in my window?

17:49

He just like he's my I guess

17:51

just moved in next door. I'm not sure, but he knocked on

17:53

the door with the pizza and he was

17:55

like he kind of speaks broken English. He's like, can you

17:57

cut the pizza for me? Because

17:59

I don't have anything? And I was like, oh, I can give

18:02

you a knife quick, and then he just asked

18:04

like, what are you doing tonight? Like and

18:06

I just gave him like a freaking butcher

18:08

knife and I'm home alone and

18:11

I don't know he just he's just knocked on my door

18:13

and asked me to cut his pizza. Like, what am I supposed

18:15

to? I don't want a strange man, Eric Erica.

18:18

When a strange man knocks on your

18:20

door and your home alone and

18:23

he asked for something to cut with, you don't

18:25

get your biggest knife from the kitchen and give it to him.

18:27

This is like the skills one

18:29

on one. Well, what

18:32

could have you done? Not answer the door? That would

18:34

be an He's literally knocking

18:37

on my thing and I'm like hot like and

18:39

then he's like, can you cut my pizza? And then

18:41

he just asked when are you going to be done? Like

18:44

the show, Let's let's keep the show moving.

18:46

Let's close the curtains behind you because right

18:48

now he has a free view for

18:52

whatever. All right, where are we? Let's

18:55

move on. Let's let's move on. Alert

18:58

Alert, Alert, or maybe asker is to call on

19:00

first and Chenna Jeff Wilson Jr. Back

19:02

in takes the wide run right, breaks a tackle

19:05

five touchdown San

19:11

fran Cisco and that feels

19:13

great, baby, Greg

19:16

Papa Tim Ryan with the call

19:19

deadbolt that door, Ricky Hollywood. Jeff

19:21

Wilson Jr. Ran for a

19:23

buck four team three touchdowns. Cam

19:25

Newton threw three picks before being bench

19:27

for Jared Stindham in the second half. The

19:30

forty Niners cruise to a thirties three

19:32

to six win over the Patriots. New

19:34

England falls the two and four in what was

19:36

the most lopsided home loss of the

19:39

Bill Belichick Eraic greg After

19:42

the game, The hood had One said

19:44

that Cam Newton, quote absolutely

19:47

close quotes, will remain his starter. Should

19:49

it be so definite? Yes, because

19:52

when Jared Stidham has played this year, he

19:54

has not looked any better, including in the in

19:56

the cameo in this game, I know it wasn't a

19:59

lot of tape um, and I just

20:01

think this ceiling for this team,

20:04

especially offensively, you

20:06

know it's not too high, but it's higher.

20:08

With Cam Newton getting out of this crazy

20:10

funk that he's in. You

20:13

have to give the forty Niners defense

20:15

credit. Um. But Cam

20:17

is as streaky a quarterback as I've

20:19

ever seen throwing the ball. I think that's

20:22

been true his entire career. And

20:25

he came out and you could just tell right

20:27

away like he was off, like he was missing guys.

20:29

He's been holding the ball a ton the last

20:32

two weeks not seeing things clearly,

20:34

and then when he does pull the trigger, it's like his

20:37

interception was just you could almost see his mind

20:39

like saying should I throw this or not? Interception,

20:43

missing receivers like that was

20:45

all bad and it wouldn't have mattered, like he could

20:47

have been the best Cam Newton today. And

20:50

the Patriots defense was never gonna

20:52

get enough stops for them to compete

20:54

in this game. They were very

20:57

lucky to be only down at

20:59

how off time. It was as one sided varsity

21:02

j V as any half I

21:04

would say of any two teams all year.

21:07

The forty Niners had eighteen

21:09

first downs at halftime and the Patriots

21:12

had fifteen plays. And it's

21:14

a reminder Kyle

21:16

Shanahan not saying

21:18

that like he's a better head coach than Bill

21:20

Belichick, but if I I would rather have an

21:23

offensive head coach that can

21:25

cook up magic with a whole bunch

21:27

of craziness and injuries

21:30

rather than a defensive coach

21:32

with the game you know, with who can manage

21:34

a game and have certain things, but has a team with

21:37

clear flaws. Because Kyle Shanahan can

21:39

still have these game plans where Jimmy g made

21:41

a couple of nice plays early didn't have to really

21:44

do much, And it's a coaching game,

21:46

and their coaching was better. From

21:49

a different perspective. Along similar

21:52

lines, maybe Kyle Shanahan

21:55

has a better GM than

21:57

Bill Belichick, whose GM is Bill

21:59

Belichick, Because it feels

22:01

like to me that the Chickens are coming

22:03

home to roost here with a roster

22:06

that's talent deficient and a

22:08

quarterback that is at this stage of

22:10

his career hot and cold, and there's

22:12

gonna be games like this when a team comes in that

22:15

has more talent than you, that's well coached, that

22:18

the Patriots maybe aren't special anymore,

22:20

and the fact that these games can happen for

22:23

a team that no longer has a

22:25

legendary quarterback behind senator to clean up

22:27

the mess that no longer has UH

22:29

can beat you one on one on

22:32

offense, that the defense isn't special like

22:34

it was for long stretches last year. Um,

22:37

I wasn't like watching the I guess you're supposed

22:39

to be like Mark. Let

22:41

me know if you agree. I think you're supposed

22:43

to be like watching the Patriots get getting whipped

22:45

in Foxborough and be like, I can't believe

22:47

this is happening. This is so weird, but none

22:50

of it felt surprising to me, So I didn't like

22:52

take any like Jet Miserable,

22:55

Jet fan joy out of it because it just made sense. The

22:57

Patriots aren't very good. Well, it

22:59

doesn't seem like it should surprise anyone who

23:01

watched the Broncos Patriots game

23:04

with the same cast of characters and

23:06

Julian Edelman Um in time for Halloween

23:08

becoming a complete ghost in an

23:11

offense that has no direction, and and you

23:13

are fair making a fair point on the GM

23:16

side of things that a lot

23:18

of this were systemic issues a

23:20

year ago for New England. You just had Tom Brady masking

23:23

over things that I think someone like Cam Newton

23:25

um in a huge funk could not. The

23:28

defense massed over a lot of that last year, so the

23:30

defense falls through the floor. I mean, you've got

23:32

nothing to save you. And you know it's like Kyle

23:34

Shanahan. Um, where I'd agree with you,

23:37

Greg, is that he's put up, he's placed.

23:39

He's faced Belichick four times and put

23:41

up thirty an average of thirty points on him.

23:43

And that came by

23:45

the way he had him in the Super Bowl too. You can say

23:47

whatever you want about that game ended. They put up

23:50

thirty you know, they put up enough points to

23:52

win that game. I mean, we knew it would be a great duel

23:54

between I think two coaches that have like immen's

23:56

respect for each other. But the forty

23:58

Niners have war parts right now. They're

24:01

pretty broken themselves. I mean, the minute

24:03

Jeff Wilson comes in and does a very Shanahan

24:05

s thing by running for a hundred and twelve

24:07

yards and three touchdowns, Bang, he's

24:09

being taken off on a cart. They can't get healthy.

24:12

But I would look at the Niners overall globally

24:14

and say they've had a lot, you know, maybe west

24:16

of the Eagles. Their injury issues have been um

24:19

second to none, and they're winning games.

24:21

I mean the whip they took care of the Rams.

24:24

Uh, they absolutely decimated the Patriots

24:26

today. That makes you think, um, when

24:28

they get healthy, when that time comes, Even

24:30

with Jimmy g looking quite average

24:33

to me, um at best, I still give

24:35

them a chance um to sneak into the wild

24:37

card. I do too, because I mean, look, they've

24:40

they've they put it on some teams,

24:42

but they lost Deebo Samuel at the end. Of this game

24:45

in a blowout was a tough spot. Um, I

24:47

don't know how serious that was. And you

24:49

lost Wilson and the reserves

24:51

on defense like Sherman and

24:54

d Ford and some of the bigger name guys. They're

24:56

coaching through it, but they're probably not back for another month.

24:59

Um, it's amazing what they've

25:01

done. I also think they're a terrible matchup for the Patriots

25:03

because that the Patriots can't stop

25:06

the run, and that's how Belichick's defense is normally

25:08

start. They're so slow at linebacker,

25:11

I mean Bentley and Jennings, who's

25:13

this rookie like the outside zone

25:15

like they they're set up to stop some passing teams,

25:17

and so I think the Bills next week, like that's

25:20

sort of the Patriots last stand in this division.

25:22

They're set up to possibly stop some passing teams,

25:24

but they cannot stop the run and they

25:27

just run it so well. The Patriots, by the way, also

25:29

lost Joe Tuoney, their center in this game to kill

25:32

Harry had a concussion. You mentioned Edelman

25:34

was in and out. He's been so slow

25:36

and injured this year. He had two throws to him

25:39

today. Both of those throws were intercepted.

25:42

Uh So, the Niners are now four and three,

25:44

and you just it's it's incredible

25:47

how quickly things have changed for them, because you

25:49

know, they were coming off loss

25:52

to the Eagles in primetime, tough loss. Then

25:54

you get blown out seventeen GM

25:57

G gets benched and there's just like panic

25:59

in the streets about the fort with

26:01

the schedule up ahead. Then they beat the Rams

26:04

and the Patriots on the road. What lies

26:06

ahead And we'll dig into this more as the week

26:08

goes along. But at Seattle home Packers,

26:11

at Saints, at Rams home, Bills

26:13

all coming up now, So they're not out of the woods

26:15

by any stretch, and at four and three, they're very

26:17

vulnerable to get knock kind of out of this wild

26:19

card race. And Jimmy G looked a lot better

26:22

today. I know they're two picks. One of them was

26:24

just you know, at the end of the half um. But

26:26

he did make three or four throws, including on third

26:28

and long. He looked like he was moving better. Uh

26:31

that he looked like Jimmy G kind of from

26:33

two thousand nineteen today. So they're gonna

26:35

need that because because they're so banged up. But man,

26:37

they're they're so uh

26:40

talented even despite all the losses.

26:42

You're right, I mean that the Patriots have no

26:45

players with juice that are just gonna win one

26:47

on one. Ricky,

26:51

you are still available to us. You're aw

26:54

Yeah, you're still around. Good God. We're

26:56

gonna check in on you periodically, just

26:58

like what do they call those well being checks?

27:01

Yeah? Um, you are

27:03

in your you know, mid to late

27:06

twenties. Lady never tells,

27:09

so you've never known anything as a Patriots

27:11

fan like this. How are you doing right now?

27:15

Um? You

27:18

know, as

27:21

perfectly stated in the best football film

27:23

of our generation by Coach Boon and remember

27:26

the Titans, it would be perfect

27:28

in every aspect. You drop a pass,

27:31

you run a mile, you miss a blocking

27:33

assignment, you run a mile, you

27:35

make a fumble, I'll break my foot

27:37

off in your John Brown hind parts,

27:40

and then you will run a mile perfection.

27:43

Well, you guys, the Patriots

27:45

will be running mile after mile today. What's

27:49

happening? Okay?

27:53

All right? Think Dan set that up or something.

27:56

Listen. I wanted to give her the floor.

27:58

Hey, speaking of um the

28:01

demise of the Patriots um

28:04

dynasty. What did Zolac have to say when

28:06

they pulled Newton out of the game.

28:09

Meanwhile, off the sideline for the Patriots incomes

28:11

number four in the blue jersey. Jarrett stood him

28:14

quarter too late, so no helmet,

28:16

no ear piece on for Cam Newton. How

28:19

does he know what playtist? Oh? Boy

28:22

oh? A hit piece on camp from Zolac.

28:26

Well, they's

28:28

like coming very clear though that Patriots

28:31

fans who have listened to this show for um seven

28:33

eight years are heading into complete

28:35

darkness. If if they're going to be dressed up

28:38

this way every time they stumble, it's

28:40

gonna be a long ride for those listeners. How did

28:42

Zolac get from here to

28:47

here? Quarter too late? So no helmet,

28:49

no ear piece on for Cam Newton. How

28:52

does he know what playtist? I hate to hear it? How

28:55

does he know Cam totally checked out? All

28:57

right, listen, this is all I have. Let's move on.

29:00

Brady Ball

29:02

told the quarter intel, Scotty Ller, it's got the

29:04

ball. Touchdops Tampa Bay Touchdouck

29:07

Tampa Bay Bucketeers, Scotty Miller.

29:09

Great throw by Brady, Oh,

29:12

Tom Brady, that guy Tom

29:15

Brady kicked

29:17

him out the door. Gene

29:22

Decker off with the call, and that was

29:25

one of the prettiest touchdown passes you'll see all year,

29:27

the Brady to Scotty Miller corner

29:29

end zone pass. Tom Brady threw four

29:31

touchdown passes, moving moving

29:34

him ahead of Drew Brees for number

29:36

one on the all time t D throw list for the time being.

29:39

As the Bucks battled then pulled

29:41

away from the Raiders, Sizzler

29:44

Watching Brady today, he looked vintage.

29:46

He looked like a master of his craft. You

29:50

know, the Bucks might be the best team in the league if he's

29:52

this guy, I would

29:54

agree. I mean, we can argue

29:56

about the most complete team, and I hear

29:59

you with Tampa Bay, Um, i'd give it to Pittsburgh

30:01

in the a f C. But one thing, Um,

30:03

that we were always waiting for with Brady

30:06

in the Bucks offense was you

30:08

know, it was clear that in the first couple of weeks

30:10

that there were issues. Um, were they going

30:12

to overcome them or where that was? That just who they were?

30:14

Well, they're overcoming them, and you just

30:17

feel this operation heating

30:19

up, um, And I think you could see it in the eyes

30:21

of Tom Brady. You could see it in the eyes

30:24

of Bruce Arians, who at one point came over and just

30:26

put an arm around his quarterback. I mean, Bruce

30:28

arians is having fun. I think I mentioned

30:30

last year that I thought he seemed like he had a bit of a thousand

30:33

yards stare didn't necessarily want to be involved what

30:35

what with what he was doing. That's not the case now.

30:38

And I mean, this is a game where Mike

30:40

ever bore

30:44

there were you know what, that's fine, it is absolutely

30:46

I don't I don't really I not claiming

30:48

that that was a home run. Takes a

30:51

guy for Fox for a season or so.

30:54

He didn't seem to be having much fun doing that. He

30:56

seemed checked out for That was a checkout.

30:59

That was a checkout. Maybe I was continuing at

31:01

off of that, but this was a game where Mike Evans was

31:04

essentially not a factor until the

31:06

game was out of hand. Um, and it just

31:08

didn't matter. And it makes me wonder, you know, we've

31:10

there are the reports out there essentially

31:13

they're they're they're adding Antonio Brown,

31:16

um and there are a variety of responses

31:18

to that move. But it's like, Okay,

31:20

let's see how you can squeeze Antonio Brown

31:23

into a into an offense where Rob Gronkowski

31:25

starting to look better and better every week.

31:27

Scottie Miller is becoming exactly what you

31:30

thought he might be. With Tom Brady, Chris

31:32

Godwin was all over the place today. They

31:34

get just enough from their ground game when they need

31:36

to. Uh, their offensive line is playing

31:38

well. Tom Brady is throwing the ball

31:41

as well as he has in years. Uh, he's

31:43

totally in a game like today when he was totally

31:45

dialed in. I actually have to give the Raiders

31:48

credit for hanging around, and

31:50

they really did hang around in this game. There

31:53

was a backbreaking moment for Derek Carr

31:55

and it was they were at this point down

31:59

I think it was twenty four to twenty or

32:01

so, but car got picked by Antoine

32:03

Winfield Jr. Who is becoming an awesome safety

32:06

in the NFL, and that basically ended it because

32:08

that set up a quick short drive for the

32:10

Bucks in Ronald Jones Um to

32:13

pop him in for a touchdown. That was two touchdowns

32:15

and forty two seconds. The Raiders

32:17

were broken at that point. And I watched

32:19

this Bucks team, guys like Devin White on

32:21

defense who had three sacks, who had

32:23

a play where he uh saw a

32:26

a a ball handler like seventeen

32:28

yards away and just single handedly sprinted

32:30

at him and knocked him down. I mean he

32:33

blew up Derek Carr in a play where I thought Derek

32:35

Carr got hurt. Uh. It was one of the better

32:37

games in the second half by Devin

32:39

White that I've seen a defender player the year. It was very

32:41

impressive. So they are extremely complete.

32:44

Uh, there aren't There's not an overt weakness.

32:46

And you just have to look at the offense. Um.

32:48

And I know that I you know, was I got

32:51

for the way I phrased as saying that they would score forty

32:53

points on on the leg. But I would just say that

32:56

that you see it now they can do it. Um,

32:58

they are that attack in everywhere. Well,

33:00

they haven't had they haven't been totally healthy. Now

33:02

getting Godwin back his key to me, he's,

33:05

you know, the second most valuable

33:07

player on that on that offense. And

33:10

they're different. And now they add Antonio Brown.

33:12

I don't think they knew they need Antonio Brown.

33:15

You know, I think, you

33:17

know, listening to Bruce arians have to answer the

33:20

question that that well, if

33:22

if Antonio Brown did what he's accused

33:24

of doing, which you know to be clear as sexual

33:26

assault and rape, Um, then then

33:29

the legal system will take care of that and

33:31

he won't be on the team. And I

33:34

just I don't like him being

33:36

added to this mix right now in arians

33:39

answering questions like that after this game,

33:41

because I think it's unnecessary. I I

33:44

lad uh my my debrief

33:46

column last week with the Bucks saying like this

33:48

team can win the Super Bowl. I mean, I think that was

33:51

I think that's an obvious take. I think

33:53

they're the best team in the NFL. I

33:55

I'm not. I didn't need to see much more out of Brady.

33:58

With a good offensive line and the

34:00

high quality of throws he's been making, like he

34:03

just needs to be a top ten to twelve type of

34:05

quarterback, they could be even better than that even

34:07

as an offense. I think if if they do their

34:09

best, but with this kind of line and with this kind of

34:12

defense, and and with this kind of depth of

34:14

playmakers, to me, they are they

34:16

are the They are the team. If I had to pick

34:18

one out of the NFC, they

34:20

would be my team. Yeah. And you saw what

34:22

they did in the final three quarters against the Packers

34:25

last week when they put it all together and just blew

34:27

out a very good Green Bay

34:29

team and this game to me. And I

34:31

know he hasn't been this

34:34

isn't this isn't two thousand seven Tom Brady

34:36

or anything, and he's not gonna throw fifty touchdowns,

34:38

but the way he played today was just

34:40

to me. And I'll again mentioned

34:42

the Scotty Miller touchdown past. I mean just the

34:44

way he's moving the pocket, the confidence he's

34:46

playing there, to the accuracy that he's throwing

34:49

the ball with the zip that he's

34:51

throwing the ball with um, he's

34:53

playing unbelievable. And you

34:55

know, with the Antonio Brown situation, there's

34:58

the component of it with the off the field issues

35:01

and the criminal behavior, alleged

35:04

criminal behavior, which is messy,

35:06

and that's that's a separate conversation. But I

35:09

think in terms of team building, it's

35:11

it's a no brainer. Uh, In terms

35:14

of building your roster out. I

35:16

know they have three really good wide

35:18

receivers and Mike Evans, Chris Godwin,

35:21

Scottie Miller, but Miller has been banged up, Godwin's

35:24

misstime, Evans hasn't been healthy. You

35:26

never know how this sport

35:28

works. It's a war of attrition. So if you get Antonio

35:30

Brown in the mix and he is on the field

35:32

and making plays he's going to, I think make this

35:35

offense better. I understand why they

35:37

did it from a team building standpoint, but

35:39

it's obviously fair to get on them for

35:42

uh some of the moral implications of bringing

35:44

out a player like Brown. I would also note

35:46

that arians after the game was said

35:49

that the decision

35:51

to bring on Antonio Brown. He said, Tom

35:54

had nothing to do with this. Now, I don't know if

35:56

I buy a word of that now

35:59

two years like

36:03

he even said he like admits how much he lies

36:05

to the media. He says, it's a it's

36:08

a good thing. I don't know. He's

36:10

not getting paid much Antonio Brown. He's getting

36:12

paid the minimum with a little bit of incentives.

36:14

So they like the Patriots a year ago,

36:16

there's very little risk in terms of finances,

36:20

and you could cut them as quickly as you wanted

36:22

to if if you if you felt like it. But

36:24

I'm telling I mean, we we're talking a lot,

36:26

and I want to see them do it against a good defense.

36:28

I mean, you said, we're not that surprised

36:31

about the Patriots. Well, when they put thirty six on the

36:33

Raiders, we thought their offense might be pretty good.

36:35

This year, everyone puts thirty everyone's

36:39

falling apart. My point is everyone puts points

36:41

on the Raiders. Um. So that's that's

36:43

a huge part of the today's equation.

36:46

It's not taking anything away. It's just saying that I

36:48

like this Raiders team, but their defense is

36:50

maybe the worst in the NFL. It's certainly one

36:53

of the three or four four worst. And that's why it

36:55

was so crazy for Erica to

36:58

uh go in a lock off against me and Tom.

37:00

How do you go against Tom Brady right now? Erica?

37:03

I mean, you come at the king best,

37:06

not miss Yeah.

37:08

I mean it was a long, a long game. Did

37:11

you guys see my storybook? Um

37:13

for Gruden and and that whole thing, And I

37:16

just I went with it and I

37:18

lost really hard one.

37:22

And what is right now with the

37:24

one win being anti Jets, Dan,

37:28

I think you're muted. You

37:32

were frozen there for a second. Are you back? Tough?

37:37

Sitch there? Ricky? I did

37:39

one thing. I want to get on and just I want just check

37:41

in her welfare at check she's okay, good.

37:45

I just wanted before we move on, get on the Raiders and

37:47

um John Gruden hated,

37:50

hated, hated, fourth and one at

37:52

the Tampa Bay seventeen yard line, three

37:55

to play in the fourth quarter, they

37:57

kick a field goal to cut it.

38:00

All year to cut it, I mean a

38:02

year to cut it. It was seventeen

38:05

game. They were down a touchdown to cut it.

38:08

As if this was a team that was going to get multiple

38:10

stops on a locked in Tom Brady with

38:13

his supporting cast, this would happened. After that,

38:15

Kansas City got the ball back eleven Place sixty

38:17

seven yards touchdown. Next

38:20

drive for the Raiders, interception on the first play,

38:22

following drive for Kansas City to Place twenty

38:24

four yards touchdown, followed by a four

38:26

and out by the Raiders filed followed by six

38:29

Place thirty two yards touchdown.

38:31

It went from congratulations

38:34

on your field goal, Well

38:37

they, I will say, they were hanging in there and trying

38:39

to, you know, not completely go hey,

38:41

we're off. And then

38:44

they scored two touchdowns in two seconds.

38:46

So that was all packed into a

38:48

crumbling a huge melt play to win

38:51

the game. Let's move on, Sorry,

38:55

sepred It's dann Sorrenson. Sorenson,

39:01

here's true. Lock throws

39:03

a fifty yard pick six, dirty

39:07

dance Arenson. How about that? The

39:11

Chiefs got a two yard kickoff

39:13

return for a touchdown by Byron

39:15

Pringle, another name I Love, a hard

39:17

charging TV run by Clyde Edwards, Hilaire

39:19

A Mahomes, the Tyreeke t d connection,

39:22

and yes dirty Dance. Sorenson with the

39:24

pick six and Drew Lock added up to a fortin

39:27

over the Broncos at a frigid and

39:30

snowy mile high mark.

39:34

You know, this is

39:36

a game again. This is one of the coldest

39:38

days in the history of Broncos

39:41

football, which you would never think would happen this

39:43

time of year, but it was, so that's

39:45

gonna affect the passing game for the second straight

39:48

week. Kansas City weather elements played

39:50

a part, I think in how they were able to attack

39:52

the opponent, but they were hitting Denver

39:55

from so many angles that it turned

39:57

into a blowout even with a single Mahome

40:00

is touchdown. Well,

40:02

and if you're gonna, if you're gonna try to challenge

40:05

Kansas City, who is not a team that can't

40:07

operate in cold weather. I mean it was beautiful to

40:09

look at the snow. The Broncos were hideous

40:12

to look at. And you know, this is a game for

40:14

those you measuring Drew Lock and um,

40:16

you know, I know a couple of close, die hard Broncos

40:19

fans that came away from this one just very

40:21

concerned about what they have under center. I

40:23

mean, you have two killer fumbles from Melvin

40:26

Gordon, uh, two interceptions from

40:28

Lock and they never really got untracked.

40:30

And and you know, you we saw our first taste

40:32

of Levy on Bell for the

40:34

Chiefs. I thought he looked it looked pretty

40:37

good. They didn't use him a ton, but it's just another

40:39

we're talking about Antonio Brown. It's another piece

40:42

to add and you can question why they're doing it, but

40:44

to me, it's just like, you know,

40:46

load up, load up, down the stretch

40:49

and uh, there was no This game was just not a

40:51

competition. And I think that the Broncos, for

40:53

all their parts, um parts

40:56

are great, but you need you need like the

40:58

quarterback play to equal it. And it just didn't

41:00

happen today at all. Well reminds me a little when

41:02

the forty Niners suddenly had all their players

41:04

back and then they got blown out that first game

41:06

with the Dolphins. I mean, and the Broncos

41:08

obviously aren't at the stage of development at

41:10

the fort You still gotta start playing together

41:13

a little bit um and uh,

41:15

the offense you would expect to do more.

41:18

I'll take the l on this that I thought. I thought

41:20

the Broncos were gonna be in this game. But

41:23

you have a first half where it's a pick

41:25

six and a kick return against it Saint the

41:27

Chiefs. Forget about it. I mean that that's it. It's

41:29

over. I mean they the Chiefs

41:33

were held till like five and a half yards to play. They

41:35

didn't have a they didn't have a third down in

41:37

the game, they didn't convert a third down in the

41:39

game, and they put up forty three points like they had under

41:41

three yards in this game the Chiefs. So I think

41:43

the Broncos defense was up for a

41:46

challenge, but it's if you're giving away points

41:48

on special teams, uh, in your

41:50

offense, eventually the defense is gonna cave it. I

41:52

think it's one of the better defenses around,

41:54

but it's just you can't be put with

41:57

you can't have that weight put on you dealing with

41:59

the Chiefs. It was terrible performance by

42:01

the Broncos. I still

42:03

have an open mind with Drew Lock, but now

42:05

eight starts in and I just don't

42:07

see anything special there. He's gonna

42:10

need to improve his play. Um,

42:12

he wasn't good enough in this game. Just But at the same

42:14

time, if you're gonna give the homes a

42:16

past for not lighting it up in in these elements,

42:19

and let me just give you a little hardcore

42:21

information on this kickoff temperature

42:23

of fourteen degrees tied

42:25

for the fifth coldest game in Broncos history,

42:27

the third coldest home game in franchise history,

42:30

and the coldest pre Halloween home

42:33

game in franchise history. It sounds like a like

42:36

a Jake Jillen Hall natural

42:38

disaster film taking

42:40

part. Let's hear it for climate change.

42:42

Way to go. It's racking

42:45

up the scores this year. Uh. Levon

42:48

Bell did look pretty good. He had to sixteen

42:50

yard runs. Uh in

42:52

limited work he ran six

42:54

times for thirty nine yards. He had

42:56

one run of sixteen yards

42:59

in two d and six the four carries with the Jets.

43:01

So I think he tweeted after the game,

43:03

man that felt so good. Uh. So he's

43:06

happy to be on a winner. You know. It goes

43:08

to show you if you complain enough, you could get into

43:10

a better situation than the modern NFL. Good for

43:12

him, Um, but Yeah,

43:16

total effort for the Chiefs here and the

43:18

Broncos. Running out of time to write this thing. Let's

43:22

move on to Rogers looks

43:25

rainbows right side, He's got his Bandavante

43:28

Adams to the ten of the five, right side

43:30

to the end zone, cutting it back, touts

43:32

down Green Bay Packers. Wayne

43:37

Larravy with a call. W T MJ with

43:39

the call. Aaron Rodgers look vulnerable

43:42

last week against the Bucks, who was back to m v P

43:44

form against the Texans, throwing four touchdown

43:46

passes too to an uncoverable

43:49

Davante Adams in

43:52

Houston for the Packers, Mark

43:55

Uh, Aaron Rodgers looked like Aaron Rodgers

43:57

again. Yes,

43:59

and this is a game that I was supposed to cover,

44:01

but I did catchum many elements

44:03

of this and for me, because of

44:06

coming off of last week, it was one

44:08

of those games where heat check on the Packers

44:10

are are We had entered in into a place

44:12

where they're a myth. They aren't what we thought the

44:14

first four weeks. Well, I think they

44:16

are what we what we thought they were because they

44:19

were and they were dialed in from the beginning

44:22

with literally no with no, with no reservations.

44:24

I mean in the first half two

44:27

fifty yards nine point four yards per

44:29

attempt, and you know you're playing a

44:31

Texans team that's been frisky. But the Texans

44:33

opened with basically three

44:36

points a miss field goal, and then they went to half

44:38

where the the Packers

44:40

like right right out of the gate, a fifty

44:43

five yard drive and eighty eight yard drive, both of

44:45

those taking up ten and nine plays, eating

44:47

up the clock. They score a third touchdown before

44:49

the half game over, and then you know their defense

44:52

has not been special, but that's enough, that's

44:54

enough to get it done. And so I look, I think it's

44:56

I think what happened last week was we just

44:58

talked about the Bucks you were dealing with. It's one of the

45:00

two or three super legit defenses, and

45:02

that's your concern. Can they operate? Can the Packers

45:05

get to a higher level against that

45:07

kind of a defense, Well, they'll probably see them again mm

45:10

hmm. Like this is a

45:12

spot where you know,

45:15

you the Texans are one of the few teams that

45:17

travel their cornerback, you know, Bradley

45:19

Roby with the opposing number one, and then you

45:21

have him matched up against Davante Adams. He

45:24

has his struggles and he gets hurt and

45:26

uh, it all all falls apart

45:28

from there. I mean, Packers defense

45:31

is all they gotta do. Force three punts in a

45:33

row to start a game. You're gonna win every one

45:35

of those games. It's like you just need the Packers

45:37

defense to show up. And that

45:39

half is as good a half, you

45:42

know, production wise, as they've had in

45:45

a long time. The Packers defense,

45:47

they need to start having some building

45:49

blocks as I'm not worried about the Packers offense.

45:51

They did this without Aaron Jones today. I mean they found

45:53

out before the game Aaron Jones is inactive and they

45:55

still they still put up points like that. And Davante

45:57

Adams he's a special player because

45:59

he he's he's the guy in the league

46:02

that and you know, maybe DeAndre

46:04

Hopkins is another one that when

46:06

he is gets into his zone, he could

46:09

just put up Madden on easy type

46:11

numbers. He had a career high one yardage,

46:14

the most yards by a Green Bay player since

46:17

Jordy Nelson went for two oh nine back

46:19

in Week two, and

46:22

Adams was one catch shy of tying the

46:24

franchise record shared by himself in

46:27

Week one of this year. And Don

46:29

Hudson back in two, so like when

46:31

him and Rogers are right, there is no more

46:34

devastating tandem in the league. J J. Watt

46:37

uh spoke after the game about

46:40

where the Texans are at. Let's listen to that. About

46:43

the way Rogers played today, and I'm

46:46

compared to the ways you've seen him play earlier

46:48

and when you guys played against

46:50

him, he played very well.

46:52

To her, what

46:55

do you do that? What made him play

46:57

well through the ball to receiver?

47:00

In my cart? I

47:03

if you could see the look on JJ Watt's

47:06

face, it's why I wanted to man

47:08

he was He had this like gritted

47:11

teeth look. He wasn't gonna say anything

47:14

like he's look he sounded like he wanted to jump

47:16

through the screen and strangle John

47:19

McClain, who was asking that question, probably

47:21

from Houston, Poor John McLean. Well,

47:23

it's also a team that you know they're There are whispers

47:25

out there that they could be heavy, um,

47:28

very active before the trade deadline. And I think

47:30

the trade deadline is not going to be a deadline this year

47:32

because to get players in with the Corona

47:35

business, they're saying the trades are gonna happen

47:37

sooner, and guys like Will Fuller have been mentioned

47:40

um this week, this week because a

47:43

week from Tuesday. But yeah, you could see in

47:45

the next forty eight hours. I think we could see trades

47:47

because it's like, if you're gonna let him go, move on, I

47:50

think with what to you know? They're

47:52

one in six as they hit thereby.

47:55

His brother t J has not

47:58

that this is part of the reason it's frustrate, but kind

48:00

of surpassed him, perhaps as

48:02

a talent in the NFL on an undefeated

48:04

Steelers team. And here's j J wat

48:07

Um, a proud player, future Hall of Famer,

48:09

on the other side of thirty in the middle

48:12

of a mess in Houston. I can imagine

48:14

it's got to be very frustrating from

48:16

where he kind of saw his career arc

48:19

as on a Super Bowl contender, I'm sure he thought.

48:21

And now to see where they are now, tough

48:23

sitch as they say, as

48:26

you say, okay, as I said,

48:28

let's move on. Here we go, Let's

48:30

see it the money plays, Let's

48:33

see what the Lions dial up. Two seconds

48:36

to go. Stafford in the out of the gun. He's

48:38

got it back looks looks talks

48:40

watch steps up, looks talk,

48:45

J get it. That's

48:48

tied it and then extra point away.

48:50

I'm winning this game? Wow,

48:53

Babby, how big is that? Big

48:57

is that? Oh

49:00

man? That might be the call the year from

49:03

Dan Miller with Lomas Brown

49:05

w j R. Yes, Maddie Stafford

49:08

uh found t J. Hockenson

49:10

in the end zone with no time on the clock, a game

49:12

tying score that's set up a long

49:15

after a penalty p t by

49:17

Matt Prader from forty eight yards to

49:19

nail down a win.

49:21

So there you go. The

49:24

Lions, who lost so many games like this win

49:26

one. And for the Falcons it's the same thing over

49:29

and over. Greg lots to unpack here,

49:31

but I want to start here. Actually with the Todd Gurley

49:34

touchdown that costs the Falcons

49:36

the game. Yeah you heard that right. Everyone

49:38

knew it was coming. Everyone

49:41

watching that game knew that the

49:44

Lions had to be thinking of allowing

49:47

the Falcons to score a touchdown.

49:49

The situation was about a one ten to go. They

49:52

had just gotten inside the ten yard line.

49:54

They could have just run the clock out that the Lions

49:56

were out of time out and the only

49:59

cha they could have for you know it would

50:01

be blocking a young Way coup kick from

50:04

from you know, a couple of yards away, or they

50:06

could have kneeled and then scored a touchdown

50:08

after that, after birning some clock, and you thought,

50:10

I wonder if Matt Patricia is gonna think back

50:13

to the Patriots Super Bowl where

50:15

they, you know, they let the Giants score, whether

50:17

they do it again. And I think the

50:20

Falcons coaching staff told Todd Gurley,

50:22

don't score a touchdown. So he breaks

50:25

a tackle right at the line of scrimmage where

50:27

they kind of have tried to tackle, and then they let

50:29

him in and he decides

50:32

about the one yard like oh no, oh, no, oh no,

50:34

tries to get down on the ground, tries

50:36

not to score. It was too late.

50:39

He scored by mistake. It is

50:41

the most Falcons thing ever that

50:44

you are allowed to score. You're

50:47

you're told not to score, and then you score

50:50

by mistake. And you could still you could have

50:52

still stopped the Lions at that point. But

50:54

after Gurley scored that touchdown, there was

50:56

no doubt in my mind. I don't care that

50:59

the Lions had no timeouts. There

51:01

was no doubt in my mind they were gonna go right

51:03

down the field and score down.

51:06

And you do have to give Stafford and Kenny Golladay,

51:08

who was a total difference maker

51:10

today, credit for making some

51:13

great plays in that drive, especially Golliday

51:15

which set up that game winning touchdown. But what

51:17

a dart, What a beautiful dart

51:19

to Golliday to set up the Hawkins and

51:22

score. Yeah, and in in true Falcons

51:24

fashion, Falcons zooming up the pain

51:26

rankings the fact that when as

51:28

he loses his balance and

51:31

he goes down to the ground, it's like

51:33

this like fun house mirror reverse

51:35

scenario of how football works, where

51:38

it's like did the ball cross the plane

51:40

for the touchdown? But that's not what you want,

51:43

of course, Yes, of course with the Falcons,

51:46

it's gonna go the wrong way for them

51:48

and just another crushing loss. I mean

51:50

maybe in the long term. Honestly, Mark, this is kind

51:53

of good for the Falcons who are playing for two

51:55

thousand twenty one anyway. But at the

51:57

same time, for a team that's had so many stomach punch

51:59

loss is this year to just add another one to the

52:01

ledger in a new and unique way. You just

52:03

don't need that. Well there, I wouldn't trust

52:06

them to not be in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes,

52:08

no matter how that will they played for fifty eight

52:11

minutes. Um, but look at these frisky

52:13

little three and three lions. Oh

52:15

you're jumping back on because they're and

52:18

you you were sinking them. I

52:21

mean, get on. I built my own vehicle wagon

52:24

with my own vehicle. You know that as as

52:26

horror horrific this matchup was in terms

52:28

of the uniforms and the

52:32

stadium lighting, which I know Chris

52:34

Wessling got a lot of tweets at

52:36

him and he was retweeting them, and you

52:38

know, it was an all time bad looking

52:41

game. You know, it was a very evenly

52:43

played, you know, good football

52:45

contest. Matt Ryan and Julio Jones played

52:48

well. It was like very even, very tense,

52:50

but to end that way was just the most falcons.

52:52

And they have mentioned that any sort of trade

52:54

rumors around Ryan and Julio Jones, I mean,

52:56

I guess you get blown away. Are simply wind

52:59

at this point that they're not moving them this season.

53:02

I noticed that. I guess it was whenever their previous

53:04

home game was. And that's a beautiful building, Mercedes

53:07

ben Stadium. We were there for the Super Bowl a couple of

53:10

years ago, and it was kind of the first of its

53:12

kind. Having the in the round visual

53:14

scoreboard that's now going to be the rage everywhere,

53:16

and we see it in the new Hollywood

53:18

Park facility here.

53:20

But there's something off about the turf, the

53:23

coloring of the turf and the lighting in the stadium

53:25

that just kind of everything feels muted and

53:27

a little bit depressing. That feels like a fairly

53:30

easy fix. Thousands of so many things they

53:32

need to fix. That feels like something that

53:34

could be handled pretty quickly, maybe even during

53:36

a bye week or something. Um Mark,

53:39

I'm picturing you like on like a

53:41

like a donkey or like you know, you're on your like

53:43

borrow and you're you're trying to catch

53:45

up to the sputtering Lions bandwagon. So you

53:47

could do like an Indiana Jones, do the

53:49

whip and pull yourself on it. You're

53:51

strugg going to catch up with the borrow. You can

53:53

you can do it. Maybe, I mean you're

53:56

putting me on a on a farm animal.

53:58

I'm not. I've built, I said I built and enjoy.

54:00

It's not going to be an animal this. If this game doesn't

54:02

convince you, they're they're gonna, you know, roar

54:04

to the playoffs. So what will I

54:07

just said they're frisky, and they are they're suddenly

54:09

suddenly, they're back in the conversation. Sitting

54:12

at five hundred. A lot of season left,

54:14

Greg and Dan moving

54:17

on. Here's the snap

54:20

on second and two and this passes.

54:22

This really interestinger ship that Jerry Hughes has

54:24

the ball and he has goes down. He

54:26

gets a late hit, but Jerry Hughes comes up

54:28

with the pick somehow. What

54:31

a call. Listen,

54:36

the Bills had six field goals for their scoring,

54:38

not a lot to choose from in this one. Yes,

54:40

the Bills losing streak is over because

54:43

their defense finally took a game over Buffalo's.

54:46

The health Sam Donald in the Jets the four

54:48

total yards on sixteen plays from

54:50

scrimmage in the second half, allowing

54:53

the Bill's offense to dig out of an early double

54:55

double digit deficit and

54:57

an eventual eighteen to ten

55:00

win. Donald was sacked five times

55:03

and through two picks, including the game stealer,

55:06

a deflection u corralled by Jerry

55:08

Hughes late in the fourth quarter. Um.

55:11

Jerry Hughes was awesome in this game. He played like

55:13

a man possessed. Um had

55:16

two sacks tackles for loss.

55:19

The interception, just around the

55:21

ball all game in

55:23

a strange game, because we talked about

55:26

it on the preview show that this was an obvious get

55:28

right game for the Bills. Uh,

55:31

you kind of imagine this could have been a thirty four

55:33

to seven, you know, forty

55:35

two to six type game, and

55:37

they get right. Well, that wasn't the way

55:39

things started out. They fall down

55:42

ten nothing in the second quarter. Uh,

55:44

Josh Allen has a fumble uh

55:47

and deep and Jets territory that he loses. Um.

55:50

He is showing some accuracy

55:53

issues again and you're you're wondering what's going on

55:55

here. But they are

55:57

able to get back

55:59

in the game because the Jets offense with Donald

56:02

uh struggling in the first game for

56:04

dal Loggins who took over play calling duties

56:07

from Adam Gates, which I guess is just gaze

56:09

and total desperation mode mode at this point,

56:12

just trying to do anything to spark matters.

56:15

But it didn't work and uh,

56:17

Josh all couldn't get Buffalo into the end zone.

56:20

Um. But they also didn't punt as

56:22

far as I can recall, Uh, they settled

56:25

for eight field goal attempts, hitting

56:27

six of them, and that accounted

56:29

for all the scoring. So not you guys

56:32

did not miss a golden game

56:34

here, but the Bills will take it and they get

56:37

back on the winning side of things, and

56:39

they're five and two. How are

56:41

you, uh on Donald's return

56:44

because you know, early get

56:47

you know, he made some big throws which I saw, and

56:50

then you look at it and in the second

56:52

half, the Jets at four yards. I don't

56:54

know if I've ever seen that four yards as

56:56

a team and on sixteen places,

56:59

you know, there's just basically a three and out machine,

57:01

and you know the way,

57:03

and I tweeted about it this week. So like, if

57:05

you're trying to figure out what do you want out of this Jet

57:08

season, at this point, it's like, alright, ten

57:10

games, let's see what Sam Donald has.

57:13

Because you're kind of like as Mark

57:15

alluded to on our preview show, and a bit of a catch

57:17

twenty two situation where like you don't want to give

57:19

up on Sam Donald because you have

57:21

a lot invested in him and you you've

57:24

seen the flashes, but at the same time, like he

57:26

needs to improve and really

57:28

make it a tough decision for the Jets if they do indeed

57:31

end up having uh, perhaps the number

57:33

one overall pick, and this game, to me was like

57:35

a huge red flag because

57:38

the Bill's defense hasn't been any good this year and

57:40

the Jets didn't have Jameson Crowder, which

57:42

is a huge loss for that offense because

57:45

he basically is the offense for most of the season.

57:47

But they did have Perriman back,

57:49

and they got Denzel Mims back, and early

57:51

on they were they did have a bit of a connection.

57:53

But the fact that you face planted in

57:55

the second half, you're You're just gonna make the decision

57:58

easier for the Jets if you have

58:00

a couple more of these performances. So yeah, I was disappointed

58:03

by his play. I mean, I guess if you're you

58:05

can't you can't kill Jets fans if

58:08

a couple of months from now, if this season plays out as

58:10

it has um to switch loyalties

58:12

because a Jets fans job has been an

58:15

awful job. But you're not sitting there

58:17

just to not enjoy life. Um, so a

58:19

ton of changes coming. I did see DJ in

58:22

terms of quarterbacks, not in terms of teams, because

58:24

I wouldn't blame him for tweet switching teams.

58:27

I mean, life's too short. Well, that's

58:29

well, I don't think that. I don't know too many Jets

58:31

fans that would do that or any To be honest, they're

58:33

very loyal, man. I wouldn't blame them. But

58:36

I saw Daniel Jeremiah. Jeremiah tweet

58:38

that their Jets rookie class um. He

58:40

was gushing about how promising it was. I'm assuming

58:42

that's because Mims came in and made

58:45

some plays. Mims got out of the game

58:47

healthy, made some catches and that's

58:49

you know, you get excited about that. And McKay

58:52

Beckton came back in and he looks like a

58:54

potential all Pro level left tackle,

58:56

which is a huge hit. But yeah, I mean

58:58

DJ was happy to see a positive tweet about the

59:01

Jets once because you don't see many of them. But

59:03

yeah, Donald is up to about

59:07

thirty starts now, and you

59:10

can't just continue to hope that he's going to

59:12

kind of pull it together at a certain point,

59:14

especially why it did cross my mind during this

59:17

very ugly second half. You

59:19

know, Joe Burrow lightening up the

59:22

Browns, and he's been lightening up teams all year, justin

59:24

Herbert, what he's been able to do. Uh,

59:27

you know what that's what you expect at some point,

59:29

and you just haven't. You haven't seen it from Donald

59:31

And even though he's been in a horrible situation,

59:34

you gotta have results at some point. So

59:37

that's where I'm at on I'm starting to kind

59:40

of mentally begin my break from

59:42

Sam Donald and and mentally preparing for

59:44

the idea of hitting the reboot. Well, it's competitive,

59:46

although the Jets, you know, look

59:49

as bad as you know any team. Certainly

59:52

there are only there. I counted their seven teams

59:55

with one winner. Less, there's

59:57

a lot of bad teams this year. The battle. Uh,

1:00:00

there's a lot of three gaul You

1:00:02

could your seven teams right now where it's week

1:00:04

seven right now, and there's seven teams with one winner. Take

1:00:07

a look at the jets upcoming schedule and tell me where

1:00:09

you see the three games. You're lucky because their schedules

1:00:11

brutal ba game

1:00:13

as they got. All

1:00:15

right, let's move on another

1:00:18

team in the tank for Trevor Sweepstakes. Steps

1:00:22

back now, throw it deep down the left sideline. That's

1:00:24

Terry mcclord. Wide open pitch catch,

1:00:27

touchdown, touchdown, Washington.

1:00:30

You are not gonna double cast that one. Bram

1:00:32

Weinstein and Julie Donaldson

1:00:35

w t M. Good

1:00:38

to hear the female perspective in the calls, and you

1:00:40

don't get much of that might be the only one,

1:00:42

right scary. Terry

1:00:45

McLaurin and Kyle Allen hooked up on a fifty

1:00:47

two yard touchdown and the Washington

1:00:49

football team coasted to win

1:00:52

over the moribund Dallas

1:00:55

Cowboys. I mean, a team that could

1:00:57

be headed towards major changes in

1:01:00

the near future. Greg, the Cowboys really

1:01:02

are this bad? They

1:01:04

are. UM, it was unfortunate

1:01:07

to see Andy Dalton go out with UM

1:01:10

a concussion after a

1:01:13

dirty hit UM by

1:01:15

John Bostic. I don't know if it was intentional, but it

1:01:17

was a late hit on a slide

1:01:19

and he'll he got kicked out of the game

1:01:21

and he'll probably be suspended. But I

1:01:23

don't think that should um distract

1:01:26

from how thorough a total

1:01:28

beat down the game already was

1:01:31

before that. I think you could have had Andy Dalton

1:01:33

out there for twelve drives and I

1:01:35

don't think they were going to score a touchdown with him

1:01:38

or UM. Who was who was

1:01:40

their quarterback? Ben Denucci? Like

1:01:44

just I don't even I don't even

1:01:46

want to, I don't even want to professional

1:01:51

and look, he actually made one one good throw

1:01:54

and in his limited time, but wow,

1:01:56

they were overmatched on

1:01:59

both sides of the boss, just totally overmatched.

1:02:01

Forget Washington being in the in

1:02:04

the mix for Trevor. Their their defense is

1:02:06

too good. I think they're gonna win too many games, and their

1:02:09

offense is better with Kyle Allen. I do think

1:02:11

it was a smart move to go to Kyle Allen. I kind

1:02:13

of I thought so at the time too, And I think he's

1:02:15

not great, but they're better. I

1:02:17

mean, we liked Kyle Allen for games last

1:02:20

year and then you know, the floor fell out. Antonio

1:02:22

Gibson yards on the ground. I think

1:02:24

you're right, Greig. They're they're a little too frisky.

1:02:26

They're a little too talented on defense to be

1:02:29

in that race. This is the Cowboys to me

1:02:32

um this season. Mike McCarthy

1:02:34

answering questions after the game about the Dalton

1:02:37

hit from Bostick and acknowledging

1:02:39

that one of the things that threw him that he found

1:02:41

concerning Let's hear it, we

1:02:44

speak all the time about playing for one another, you

1:02:47

know, protecting one another. M So

1:02:50

definitely was probably not the response that

1:02:53

would yeah,

1:02:55

that you know, when your quarterback goes down,

1:02:58

you want everyone around him and and and that

1:03:01

was done with Dak Prescott obviously, but

1:03:03

people get after Boston, but I mean that's what he's

1:03:05

saying. It's it's rally around your quarterback

1:03:08

and show show Washington that you're

1:03:10

not taking that and instead, um, this

1:03:12

lifeless roster which has had a

1:03:15

complete disconnect a with the coaching

1:03:17

staff and be with anyone observing

1:03:20

the Dallas Cowboys this season did

1:03:22

nothing. And I think that speaks to me about

1:03:25

the A lot of the criticism you started to hear

1:03:27

about the player coach relationships and everything

1:03:29

going on weeks ago that had you concerned,

1:03:32

but you saw the talent and now it's just like, talent

1:03:35

is fine. Every team has talent um,

1:03:37

they're not playing up in any level to where they

1:03:39

are. And I don't know how you come out of this season

1:03:41

if you're Jerry Jones and things stay a pace um

1:03:44

with a vote of confidence and Mike

1:03:46

McCarthy it's one and done and you know what the

1:03:48

rest of the thing moves on with. And I

1:03:50

mean, this is as bad of a coaching job

1:03:53

as I've ever seen. I think that is well

1:03:55

within the range of outcomes if this continues,

1:03:57

and especially who knows what Dalton

1:04:00

I mean, he was diagnosed with a concussion,

1:04:02

was a nasty head. You know, these guys can come

1:04:04

back five days later from concussions,

1:04:06

it's just the way the sport is, or sometimes, depending

1:04:09

on the severity, could disappear for the rest of the year.

1:04:11

So we don't need to know his status right now. But

1:04:13

the fact that he has come out and looks so

1:04:15

helpless, uh, puts this team into

1:04:17

a really dark place now where uh

1:04:20

if he can't play. And Benny Denucci,

1:04:23

who we you know, we like his name, but he's a seventh

1:04:25

round pick. Uh, so you're not expecting

1:04:27

a lot for him. This thing could really create her. And

1:04:30

again you have a aging results

1:04:33

wants results now level owner.

1:04:36

And I would even put a sandwich wager

1:04:38

out there that this this could end up with McCarthy

1:04:41

being sent out of town. And I don't think

1:04:43

I take you on it. Because you

1:04:46

want to do it, let's do it. I just just

1:04:50

I's not a crazy sandwich to put up there. I think

1:04:52

there's cases for both sides. I don't know if Jerry

1:04:55

Jones gonna want to admit he's wrong that quickly.

1:04:57

It's gonna be slow water torture though for this season,

1:04:59

because because of how bad the NFC East

1:05:01

is, they're gonna have to like not

1:05:04

give up. Like it's like the games are gonna

1:05:06

keep mattering as they keep playing

1:05:09

this bad and and I thought like, when I, you

1:05:11

know, heard about the you know Dalton not

1:05:13

you know getting near him, I thought about, like,

1:05:16

well, how many of these guys know each other that well, it's

1:05:18

like an offensive line of just total replacements.

1:05:22

I'm not saying that justifies it. I'm

1:05:24

not. I'm just trying to tell you these

1:05:26

aren't even the Cowboys. It was only

1:05:28

one starter left, um from

1:05:30

the offensive line as before, Andy

1:05:32

Dalton's not there. I just want to throw this out

1:05:34

before he goes. By the way, I think Scott Turners doing a good

1:05:36

job as their coordinator

1:05:38

considering how little talent there is, and that I think

1:05:41

it again shows um how

1:05:43

poor like Dallas is coaching the The

1:05:45

Washington football team had a hundred, two

1:05:48

hundred and fifty two yards at halftime. Washington,

1:05:51

they had their season high and running

1:05:54

for the year at halftime a hundred and twenty

1:05:56

five yards against this Cowboys d and their health.

1:05:58

They're pretty healthy on the Cowboy, so you

1:06:01

know, let's not forget about that Cowboys. The

1:06:03

wow. I don't think I should

1:06:05

have locked up the Cowboys this week. Hey,

1:06:08

Eric, are you there? Did

1:06:12

we lose her again? I think I think

1:06:15

this is this is a periodic welfare check

1:06:17

if you're just joined. Eddie Spaghetti is here

1:06:20

now he came. He's

1:06:23

a hunk of bees. Yeah, so Eddie was just

1:06:25

outside checking the perimeter. I

1:06:27

like it. Eddie brought in. I got Staten

1:06:30

Island in the house, full

1:06:34

investigator on the case. I'm glad

1:06:36

that Eddie's in the building because that's a guy that I

1:06:38

would trust. Nothing

1:06:40

else in that apartment A right good. I just also

1:06:42

want to make sure you're not like wandering around the city

1:06:45

handing drifters, stunned guns and lead

1:06:47

pipes, and after what we saw earlier with the butcher

1:06:49

knife being handed to the stranger here. Yeah, no, I'm

1:06:52

I'm very very properly scared. So

1:06:54

Eddie and there's nothing in the apartment.

1:06:57

He sounds like he maybe just moved in and he ordered

1:06:59

a pizza because has he's he has no groceries,

1:07:02

and so he maybe it's legit and he's a very nice

1:07:04

person that needed a night for you. Yeah, let's

1:07:06

get shook over there. That's you know, Eddie's

1:07:09

a nice piece of meat over there for

1:07:11

protection. But let's welcome and Nick shook

1:07:15

Erica in a little bit of danger. Potentially. We're

1:07:17

keeping an eye on it, Nick, but we're gonna send you over

1:07:19

if we feel it to be necessary.

1:07:22

OK. I don't go to the gym five days week for no

1:07:24

reason. What a

1:07:27

piece of meat himself? All right? Shook

1:07:29

is with us? Uh to continue

1:07:31

with the highlights, And here's a shootout of fun

1:07:34

game down at the super Dome. Shall

1:07:36

we sly will attempt an NFL

1:07:39

record sixty five yard field

1:07:41

goal? It kicks away. It

1:07:43

is getting dangerously close and just short.

1:07:50

Mm hmmm mmmmmmmmm.

1:07:59

Zack Street with the all for w w L

1:08:03

sixty five yards dead

1:08:06

red down the middle but fell about

1:08:08

two yards short of the crossbark. Was that close

1:08:10

to NFL history, But

1:08:12

it didn't work out for the Panthers and

1:08:15

Joey Sly and that rule with BA to

1:08:19

the Saints. Drew Brees completed

1:08:21

past the eight different pass catchers through

1:08:23

for two, eight, seven and two touch INDs and

1:08:25

added another score in the ground. That's three straight

1:08:28

wins for the Saints. Shook. Let's

1:08:30

give New Orleans some credit here. They are shorthanded

1:08:32

on offense and they're still getting it done. Yeah.

1:08:35

No, Michael Thomas and yet Drew Brees

1:08:37

really spread the ball around really well. Yeah.

1:08:40

Yeah. Deonte Harris had his first career

1:08:42

touchdown catch today. He went to a

1:08:44

number of different other different receivers album

1:08:47

camera doing it again, of course, over a hundred all

1:08:49

purpose yards for the seventh straight game, which

1:08:51

is the longest active streak in the NFL. I

1:08:53

mean, you know, this is the offense even

1:08:56

without the guys that we knew. You know that

1:08:58

the names aren't there, but this is still the offense that

1:09:00

we expected from the Saints.

1:09:02

And yeah, the only one by three points,

1:09:05

but it was it was enough of a back

1:09:07

and forth the fair where when you stepped away from

1:09:09

it afterward, you're like, that was a quality win. I mean, the Panthers,

1:09:11

you know, they're not a team that we expected much from,

1:09:14

but they're pretty competitive and it was a competitive game

1:09:16

today. So it still is a good win for the Saints. Well,

1:09:19

it's also a game you look at, you know, the yardage and

1:09:22

the game's close, but the yardagees

1:09:24

and the Saints moved the ball a lot better

1:09:27

um, and that goes to I think the Panthers

1:09:29

overachieving. But the Saints

1:09:31

are pretty deep, even though they're injured,

1:09:34

and we get to Michael Thomas because I do, I do want to

1:09:36

talk about Michael Thomas, but they're pretty injured

1:09:38

in various parts, but their lines are are getting

1:09:41

healthy, and like they're deep along those lines. And

1:09:43

Marcus Davenport, who's back and healthy,

1:09:45

had a huge sack to back up that

1:09:47

Joey slide field goal and not to

1:09:49

me like that has that's a huge moment

1:09:51

in that game. Yeah, I mean

1:09:54

there was only two sacks the entire game, and and

1:09:56

that was the biggest defensive play I think of the entire

1:09:58

game. The other one was Brian burns Uh forcing

1:10:00

a fumble near the end of the first half which let

1:10:02

do a touchdown and the Panthers, I mean, he took a seventeen

1:10:05

fourteen leading in the second quarter and looked like, oh,

1:10:07

they might pull this off. And it

1:10:09

was close throughout the game, but you're right, the Saints,

1:10:12

you know, out gained them, and it was really them. It

1:10:14

was really the Panthers finding way to remain the game

1:10:16

late, and you know that that sack kind

1:10:18

of put him in a position where you already knew that was gonna be outcome.

1:10:20

You're like, are they really gonna do it? Is this really gonna

1:10:23

happen? But I will say I'll give Joey Slye this. If

1:10:25

Teddy bridge Water doesn't take that sack, that's the tie game

1:10:28

and went over because

1:10:30

from sixty five missed by about

1:10:32

two ft. And this is a guy that was on the

1:10:34

Corona list a few uh some things ago.

1:10:37

Yeah, that's start of the week. Um, Greg,

1:10:39

you I think you deserve

1:10:42

credit for standing by Teddy Bridgewater

1:10:45

during this offseason ramp up to the season.

1:10:47

He they moved the ball and

1:10:50

they could put up big plays. Robby

1:10:52

Anderson and d J. Moore are

1:10:55

now the only teammate duo

1:10:57

in the NFL with five plus receiving

1:10:59

yards through Week seven. Uh

1:11:02

entering Sunday Night Football. Uh

1:11:04

they this is not a dinkin duck. The

1:11:06

average air yards per tempt um

1:11:09

myth around Teddy Bridgewater has been proven

1:11:11

false. Uh So listen,

1:11:14

they're now three and two in five games without

1:11:16

Christian McCaffrey. I believe they're playing Thursday

1:11:18

night and they're expected, uh

1:11:20

to potentially get McCaffrey back. He

1:11:23

has not played since week two, So I mean, you're

1:11:25

signing up, You're you're signing up

1:11:27

for three and four probably if you're Matt Rule,

1:11:29

even though you're disappointed tonight. I

1:11:32

got sandwiches on Teddy having

1:11:34

more yards than Josh Allen, which uh,

1:11:37

I would have would have thought it with Teddy's in like the

1:11:39

top seven right in passing yards, he'd be in good

1:11:41

shape. But he's he is trailing, but he's

1:11:43

in that mix. I do think we should mention how

1:11:45

weird this Michael Thomas thing is. I

1:11:48

don't know what's going on here. Dude, he

1:11:50

was supposed to be back like three or four weeks

1:11:52

ago. Dude gets in a

1:11:55

fight and get suspended before

1:11:57

the bye week. Everyone thought he was gonna play

1:11:59

the week four. Then

1:12:01

there's like rumblings he returns

1:12:04

to practice that he might get

1:12:06

traded. Then there's Sean Payton going after

1:12:08

someone on Twitter saying that's a

1:12:11

bunch of nonsense. And I

1:12:14

have found over the years when there's weird

1:12:16

things coming out in New Orleans, it's for a reason,

1:12:18

and usually when Sean Payton is going out of

1:12:20

his way to deny things. Uh,

1:12:23

usually it's the Saints that are putting out that story

1:12:25

in the first place, like something something that you

1:12:27

know, wide receivers are so tough sometimes

1:12:30

because they're so volatiles at times

1:12:32

personality wise, And it seems to me with

1:12:35

the smoke that's coming out of there is that this guy

1:12:37

is causing issues behind the scenes. You

1:12:39

don't find the latest hamstring hamstring

1:12:42

tweak, then I don't know, he

1:12:44

could be banged up, but I Mike Florio reported

1:12:47

um on NBC tonight what

1:12:50

you were just saying, Greg that they kind of

1:12:52

potentially were floating Thomas before

1:12:55

the trade deadline, and now this injury

1:12:57

kind of has thrown cold water on that.

1:12:59

And uh, I mean, this guy set the all

1:13:02

time catch record last year. This guy had

1:13:04

been the most productive wide

1:13:06

receiver since Antonio Brown. Oh yeah,

1:13:08

Antonio Brown, another all world talent

1:13:11

that's personality and off the field

1:13:13

issues torpedoed his career until

1:13:16

recently. Now, I mean, it's it is very

1:13:19

interesting to see how this plays out. And it

1:13:21

is weird that the injury stuff wrapped

1:13:23

around me the punch. I

1:13:26

mean, it's they're also still like sneaky two months

1:13:28

away from probably Drew Brees walking

1:13:30

away and becoming the notre dame announcer

1:13:33

and looking themselves at least on offense in

1:13:35

a pretty deep rebuild. I mean,

1:13:37

he was healthy enough to be practicing to

1:13:40

get into a fight with the car I

1:13:42

don't know, you know what I mean, And that was like three weeks

1:13:44

ago, so that, yeah, yeah, Mark, does that Does that

1:13:46

speak to you think Michael Thomas couldn't

1:13:48

handle the struggles over rebuild? Or is it the

1:13:50

fact that because like that guy, a

1:13:52

guy at that age that he was that good of a receiver, you would

1:13:54

want that to be one of your key pieces, and I think he would

1:13:57

too. I mean, I'd be surprised that they trade him. But when

1:13:59

you throw in the fact that he's punching teammates,

1:14:02

and that's the part of the story that we know, there

1:14:04

might be the experience of Michael Thomas

1:14:06

becoming a little bit too much for everyone.

1:14:09

If there was ever a player that

1:14:11

were to unfollow his team on

1:14:13

Twitter and Instagram after an O and two

1:14:15

start with a new quarterback that's struggling, it

1:14:19

is Michael Thomas. Maybe they're trying to get ahead of this.

1:14:21

The unfollowed. That's a good call. All

1:14:24

right, let's move on. There was a there

1:14:27

was a false alarm unfollowing

1:14:29

on Twitter and Instagram today

1:14:32

of Harrison Smith and the Vikings. I want everyone

1:14:34

to know that it was out there that

1:14:36

Harrison Smith had unfollowed the Vikings on

1:14:39

his social but it then was later learned

1:14:42

via reporting that he in fact had

1:14:44

never followed the Vikings in the first place. So

1:14:47

everyone stand down. Harrison Smith is

1:14:49

not on his way out of Minnesota. Now

1:14:52

we move on. I got to get that out there. Greg

1:14:54

Coms rose right sideline for guiding,

1:14:57

caught right sideline Ted

1:15:00

Giten to the touchdown Chargers

1:15:06

Herbert to Giten seventy

1:15:08

yards just too much speed,

1:15:11

Matt Money Smith Daniel

1:15:14

Jarremiah with a call k Y

1:15:17

s R. Man

1:15:19

Money has got a n DJ have a

1:15:22

front row seed for something special here justin

1:15:24

Herbert is a man on fire. The super rookie

1:15:27

went off with another big passing

1:15:29

game, also set a charges rushing record

1:15:31

for quarterbacks uh four touchdowns,

1:15:34

including that game winner at the Jalen Guiten win

1:15:37

over the Jacks at Hollywood Park. Herbert

1:15:40

finally gets that elusive first win, but

1:15:42

we all know he's played well enough to win a bunch of games

1:15:44

already. Shook, this kid looks like an instant

1:15:47

Stars is a huge story in the league. You know, I was

1:15:49

really startled. I mean we followed the league from

1:15:51

each week obviously, but I was just startled for

1:15:53

a moment when I was watching the end of the

1:15:55

game today and heard the broadcast say, and

1:15:57

Justin Herbert officially has his first career in

1:16:00

because you think he's been playing well for

1:16:02

a month, like that type of performance from

1:16:04

a quarterback usually leads to victories, and yet the Charges

1:16:06

have found ways to lose and and have

1:16:09

you know, had some close calls. So I was like, wow, that

1:16:11

really is his first career win, but it's

1:16:13

it's the first of many. I mean at this

1:16:15

point, some of the passes that he threw

1:16:18

today were just absolute times, and he seems

1:16:20

to be getting better with more experience week by week. It's

1:16:22

kind of in the mold of Joe Burrow. But Burrow looked

1:16:25

better from the start I think, or has

1:16:27

been. I don't know if they started he was here and he keeps

1:16:29

going up. Um, but they're both improving

1:16:31

on a weekly basis and it's really exciting to

1:16:33

watch, and especially for a Chargers team that I

1:16:35

mean when when we entered this season, we didn't know what

1:16:38

they were getting out of him. They kind of took Justin Herbert because

1:16:40

he was the guy after Tua and

1:16:43

they had Tyrode as the bridge quarterback,

1:16:45

and you didn't know when Herbert was going to see

1:16:47

the field at all. There was some thought that he wouldn't see

1:16:49

the field at all this season, and yet he comes out and he's

1:16:51

playing like like a stud. So it's really exciting.

1:16:53

The thing that is interesting to me is like you watch his

1:16:56

touchdown run, which was I mean

1:16:58

his arm set up that run because because they

1:17:00

didn't know what to do with him, and it's like,

1:17:03

okay, I mean from a team planning angle,

1:17:05

they wanted Tyrod Taylor to red

1:17:07

shirt this season for Herbert because also

1:17:09

he's um and Anthony Lynn favorite because

1:17:11

he's a mobile scrambler and in fun on the

1:17:13

grounds, like sorry, Justin Herbert can do

1:17:15

basically anything on the ground that Tyrod Taylor

1:17:18

today is gonna do for you, and he can

1:17:20

do a billion more things through the air. I just wonder

1:17:22

how they scouted him beforehand, I mean to

1:17:25

the eye. He is a complete wonder.

1:17:27

Well you gotta pay I don't. You can't know until they're

1:17:29

in the games. I feel like, yeah, when

1:17:32

when coaches say like we will love we love this guy

1:17:34

in practice, like that's why Colin Kaepernick is

1:17:36

replacing Alex Smith, it's like, oh,

1:17:39

well, coaches are with him all week long. So it's kind of

1:17:41

like, could bend it anyway you want? I mean, well,

1:17:43

you think they've they struggled to evaluate

1:17:46

just how awkward is it for Daniel Jeremiah

1:17:49

having to call these games. I'm sure he's like interviewing

1:17:52

with Justin Herbert and he has to be like, oh, sorry,

1:17:54

bro, I had you ranked twenty in

1:17:56

my top fifty rankings behind

1:17:59

and Drew Thomas struggling

1:18:02

weekly behind Kenneth Murray and

1:18:05

thanks in your world DJ versation.

1:18:09

Well, I mean Herbert knows. I mean he's

1:18:13

analyst. He's a great behind

1:18:16

Ross Blacklock. I don't even know

1:18:18

if he went in the first two rounds um graded

1:18:20

behind all those guys. And here's one of the greatest quarterbacks

1:18:23

as a rookie we've ever seen a

1:18:26

lot of what a hit piece by y

1:18:30

I can done it, but um, anything

1:18:33

else on this game shook than the Herbert.

1:18:36

Well, on the Herbert point, I think the one thing that has

1:18:38

helped him so far as he's doing a lot of

1:18:40

the things that he did well at Oregon, including running.

1:18:43

I mean, anybody remembers that Rose Bowl win that

1:18:45

he closed his organ career with. I mean, that's

1:18:47

a prime example of basically what has helped him through

1:18:49

the first you know, five weeks that he's played football

1:18:52

in the NFL. So you know, I think

1:18:55

you're right on not figuring

1:18:57

out where these guys are headed. But at the same time they

1:18:59

get out there just kind of do with thing. Now. Jacksonville

1:19:01

wise, there was some rumbling about

1:19:04

Gardner Minshew, right, um, who

1:19:07

is gonna lose his job? He was

1:19:09

okay, I mean he had a couple of touchdown pass

1:19:11

the day, hundred seventy three yards. He kept

1:19:13

him in the game. But then it was the same

1:19:15

Gardner Minshew outcome at the end fourth

1:19:17

and two, he gets the conversion fourth and eight, he

1:19:20

misses an open DJ Shark by

1:19:22

five yards, and that was basically the ballgame.

1:19:24

So you're ceiling is low. Sure, it's exciting

1:19:27

from time to time, but these Jaguars, we know they're

1:19:29

not really going anywhere they're gonna play. How

1:19:33

is it? How is the head coach today floating that

1:19:35

story out there to our reporters

1:19:37

saying that we're going to We're We've made a decision

1:19:40

that Mike Lennon will give us a better chance when

1:19:43

when they're down thirty nine and they need,

1:19:45

you know, points when he's

1:19:48

trying to push the ball downfield. You can see

1:19:50

the frustration on the receivers on the

1:19:52

two misses he had there. You know, I think he's

1:19:54

just a limited guy when you have to open it up a little

1:19:56

bit. But they're certainly

1:19:58

in the tank for Trevors. So stakes at one and six,

1:20:01

now off six straight losses. Now

1:20:04

Sunday Night Football, Sunday

1:20:07

nine, can

1:20:10

you make this one? It is in

1:20:17

a sixty nine minute at

1:20:20

forty five second game. It is

1:20:22

the only time that Arizonas

1:20:24

had to lose Al Michael's

1:20:26

with the call friend BC Zane Gonzalza

1:20:29

tones for his error at

1:20:31

the end of regulation when he

1:20:33

shanked a forty one yard or hitting

1:20:35

the forty eight yarder in ot

1:20:38

Arizona Cardinals thirty seven, Seattle

1:20:41

Seahawks thirty four and a thriller

1:20:43

the Cardinals improved to five into

1:20:45

the Seahawks finally lose their first

1:20:48

game of the year. They fall to five

1:20:50

and one. Uh shook.

1:20:53

This one was wild. The Seahawks

1:20:55

seemed to have it in hand. They were up thirty four with

1:20:58

less than six minutes to play. Uh they

1:21:00

are unable to close the game out on defense and

1:21:02

no surprise there, and then unable to take

1:21:05

advantage of there are opportunities

1:21:07

when Russell Wilson was on the field. Yeah,

1:21:09

I felt like once the scramble to

1:21:11

get it to second and short at the

1:21:13

two minute warning, it was basically, well, you know, they

1:21:15

get this first down and it's all but over

1:21:17

and then you know, Arizona gets to stop and suddenly

1:21:20

have a ball game. But even at that point, the Cardinals

1:21:22

still have to go down the field. I mean, there was there

1:21:24

was. It was such an unlikely and I haven't looked at the

1:21:27

probability metric on for next Gen in

1:21:29

this game, but I'm worked

1:21:31

up. I'm sure it just shot

1:21:33

down because like this was

1:21:35

unlikely. This was definitely unlikely. But

1:21:38

I mean it speech to the moxy and the the ability

1:21:40

of of a young guy like Kyler Murray to be able to leave

1:21:42

it, and also the Larry Fitzgerald forgetting the ball to

1:21:45

the center in order for them to snap in times. People

1:21:47

love that love that unlikely.

1:21:52

It was insane. How did they They blew the

1:21:54

Seahawks blew this game a thousand different ways. The

1:21:56

Cardinals, you know, tried to um

1:21:59

in over time a couple of different times

1:22:01

too, But there were so many

1:22:04

parts of this game that was that were

1:22:06

absolutely insane. It reminds me of the

1:22:08

inverse of that six six Cardinals

1:22:10

Seahawks game, which happened

1:22:12

when I was in London and you guys weren't.

1:22:15

I remember it ended up like five in the morning

1:22:17

and there was a gate all year. Was that like the worst game

1:22:19

of the year or the best game? Like this

1:22:21

one tonight. It was sloppy as hell, but it was

1:22:23

the best game of the year. And I go back,

1:22:26

um like to that overtime period

1:22:29

or what set it up rather and the decision

1:22:32

from Pete Carroll and you mentioned uh

1:22:35

Nick shook that Russell Wilson scrambled

1:22:39

to set up a second and short where all

1:22:41

they need is two yards to to finish

1:22:43

off the game, and the first run loses

1:22:45

yardage and I and I was. I remember

1:22:48

thinking like, are they going to have the guts to throw

1:22:50

the ball here? Because if they throw the ball here, they're

1:22:52

gonna win the game. And I don't kill them

1:22:54

for running it there. But you went run, run, run

1:22:57

in that spot, you went backwards. In the

1:22:59

end. It was like the only time all year where they

1:23:01

didn't have the guts. And Kyler Murray

1:23:04

directs one of the craziest uh

1:23:07

late minute regulation drives I've ever seen

1:23:09

fifty four seconds where they had two designed

1:23:11

runs. They spiked it three

1:23:14

different times. Uh. You never seen

1:23:16

something like that, And it was really like courageous

1:23:18

and smart. And then Cliff Kingsbury did as

1:23:20

much as he could in overtime to make us think they're

1:23:23

not necessarily courageous and smart or

1:23:25

in or in regulation, because I mean,

1:23:28

you know, had that gone

1:23:31

down poorly for the Cardinals,

1:23:34

you've got the talking point that

1:23:36

Zene Gonzalez kicked the would be uh

1:23:39

game winning but would be not game

1:23:41

winning field goal on second down, which I mean,

1:23:43

it's amazing that what you with, especially with the kickers,

1:23:46

like the last thing they do is all we remember and

1:23:48

it wipes out all these other storylines. Um.

1:23:51

But I will say I will footnote this by saying

1:23:53

that I thought that one of the biggest things that

1:23:55

that Arizona did in regulation and the overtime

1:23:58

period was UM getting

1:24:00

to Russell Wilson. That Byron murphy sack

1:24:02

was huge. I mean, coming off a regulation period

1:24:04

that saw them, you know, combined for nine

1:24:07

two yards. The minute this game, UM,

1:24:10

the minute that the Bucks Raiders was moved out

1:24:12

of this slot in Arizona

1:24:14

seatll got moved in. UM, We've been

1:24:16

through this enough. A mental note UM rolled

1:24:19

through my mind that said, you will be up at

1:24:21

least an extra hour and twenty minutes that you

1:24:23

would have been up. Um, Cliff Kingsbury

1:24:26

there, I'm sure we'll have a victory Monday. On

1:24:28

Tuesday morning at the team meeting, he should

1:24:31

have Rolex watches for

1:24:33

everyone on the Arizona defense for bailing

1:24:36

his ass out UH on

1:24:39

this game, because Yeah, I could not get

1:24:41

over it, and I couldn't believe Alan Chris

1:24:43

are usually still locked in on things. Didn't

1:24:45

even make any note of it that he

1:24:48

settled for the forty one yard field

1:24:50

goal second right

1:24:52

after a five yard loss. It was a reminder

1:24:56

that head coaches can lose their

1:24:58

nerve too in a really big spot,

1:25:00

and I think that's what happened. Uh,

1:25:03

sorry, I think that's what happened here.

1:25:05

Uh. He they lost five on a run and

1:25:08

he just said, okay, send Zane out there. He

1:25:10

lost and you and what you would

1:25:13

he really failed to realize is that the Seattle defense

1:25:15

was guessed. Even Kalsworth was making

1:25:17

note of it, that these guys were done and all you

1:25:19

gotta do is run it. You're probably gonna damn was gonna

1:25:21

break either for a game ending touchdown or

1:25:24

for another five, ten, fifteen yards. Instead,

1:25:26

he brings up Gonzalez and he misses

1:25:28

the kick. But yeah, I was really surprised.

1:25:31

So a good job by the Arizona defense for like Mark

1:25:33

said, getting to Wilson in

1:25:35

overtime and at the end of regulation and

1:25:37

in general Seattle's offense, which has

1:25:39

been so unstoppable. Uh, they

1:25:42

end the game going punt punt interception.

1:25:45

Uh that was not expected either, and

1:25:47

the interception was crazy, Like they

1:25:49

didn't really discuss that either. Because Isaiah

1:25:51

Simmons, a top ten pick who's

1:25:54

barely played this year. He played under five

1:25:56

snaps tonight, and one of those snaps was

1:25:58

that interception. Because Arizona was so injured

1:26:00

by the end, Russell Wilson just threw that to

1:26:03

no one. There's no receivers anywhere

1:26:05

remotely here. The pressure was coming

1:26:07

and and they had blitzed them advanced Joseph,

1:26:10

give him, give him some credit for coming up with these

1:26:12

crazy blitzes. And overtime they just cooked

1:26:14

him up. Russ was cooked like he lost

1:26:17

his mind a little bit. I I wrote that I don't want to

1:26:19

go on too long, but this game was so insane. I

1:26:21

just like wrote down. I was starting to, like, you

1:26:23

know, right down like a top five plays from this game

1:26:26

because this game was so incredible, and then it got

1:26:28

longer and longer. Here are the things that this

1:26:30

in no order, but here are things that happened in this game.

1:26:33

Uh, Kyler Murray being cool

1:26:35

enough to smile when he sees sees

1:26:38

Hopkins one on one and then

1:26:40

throw a touchdown to him. The three Russell

1:26:42

Wilson throws to lock it, We're all insane.

1:26:45

The one hander to start the game was one of the best

1:26:47

catches of the year. The bomb touchdown

1:26:49

was ridiculous, and the in the touchdown on

1:26:51

fourth down to lock it was just like that two

1:26:53

point conversion in the in the NFC Championship,

1:26:56

that alone was amazing. That Kyler Murray

1:26:58

scramble touchdown where he just

1:27:00

you know, joked them out of their shorts

1:27:03

was outrageous. The Kyler drive we mentioned

1:27:06

to force overtime, Kingsbury's

1:27:08

brain fire Simmons is uh interception.

1:27:11

And then almost the biggest thing was

1:27:13

I thought the Seahawks one on a on a game

1:27:15

winning touchdown and overtime that was over same

1:27:20

game and you didn't even mention the

1:27:22

Bens in Myowa unsportsmanlike conduct that

1:27:24

took the field goal off the board and allowed

1:27:26

Arizona to get the touchdown instead

1:27:28

that then set up the game tying field goal at the

1:27:31

end of regulation. I mean, that's Seattle

1:27:33

has been dancing with the devil all season, I think

1:27:35

with their defense, and they've gotten away

1:27:37

with it a couple of games. It finally came back to haunt

1:27:40

them too. I think that's something to take out of this

1:27:42

game as well, that they're gonna remain vulnerable, uh,

1:27:45

even with a great Russell Wilson, as long as this defense

1:27:47

cannot make stands. Yeah, you know, you

1:27:49

bring the Bens and Myowa thing is huge because we could

1:27:52

point scapeboats out of a bunch of different people here.

1:27:54

I mean we could we could go to Brian

1:27:56

Schotheimer for calling not only did they go run, run,

1:27:58

run, And you're fine with that, Greg, I was fine with that

1:28:00

too. They called the same play three times. It was

1:28:02

a stretched round of the right three times. Do you think

1:28:04

the third time they might actually anticipate

1:28:07

a little bit and try to shoot the gap, which is exactly what

1:28:09

they did, stuffing him in the hole. I mean, Carlos

1:28:12

hides on a guy who necessarily gets stuffed like that. They

1:28:14

knew that was coming and and so you can

1:28:16

point him as escapegoat to keep my oas escapegoat

1:28:19

if you go down the line. But I

1:28:21

think the one thing that really stands out to me about

1:28:23

this entire game is centers on Kyler

1:28:26

Murray and it centers on the fact that he's

1:28:28

been doing this like like scrambling for the touchdown

1:28:30

for example. It's almost a near weekly

1:28:32

thing. Now. I mean, this is something that he's I don't know if

1:28:35

you would say added to his arsenal or whatever,

1:28:37

but it's something that's helping their offense reach

1:28:39

that next level. But what we haven't seen

1:28:41

him do is do it in a position like tonight where

1:28:44

he had to go down the field where you had to leave a drive lead

1:28:46

a drive like that, and they had to execute

1:28:48

on every single play. You found a way

1:28:50

too. And and I don't know if this is really

1:28:53

a turning point for them, but it's really encouraging

1:28:55

because we had some high hopes for them.

1:28:57

They kind of, you know, they hit a lall early in the

1:28:59

season. They're coming on strong now and and it's it's

1:29:01

a lot of fun. Well, we called it a doorway game

1:29:03

on Thursday, and that's my word

1:29:05

for it, because nick I thought the same

1:29:07

thing about Cleveland facing like Pittsburgh, Like you

1:29:10

go through that doorway, you show that you can get through,

1:29:12

then we think about you differently. And I think about

1:29:14

that. You know, I know that they beat Seattle last year,

1:29:17

but that's last year. I mean this this after after

1:29:19

you know, a two or three weeks sort of semi funk

1:29:22

where I wasn't sure what to think about Arizona's

1:29:24

offense. I come out of this completely different than

1:29:26

This game also was a study in variance because

1:29:29

how different football games can be. Like we talked about

1:29:31

the Cardinal, the Carolina New Orleans

1:29:34

game had four teen possessions, seven

1:29:36

each. That's kind of unusual. This had

1:29:39

possessions, I mean, and it looked like it's the point

1:29:42

where if you were one of the lost Soul being

1:29:44

asked to write the what we learned for this, I would

1:29:46

have I would have like literally run out of the building at

1:29:48

this point because I don't do well with those things. And there was like

1:29:50

seventy five different plot points. Please to

1:29:54

Grant Gordon, who's writing this, thank

1:29:56

you one of the great guys on the desk

1:29:58

and NFL dot Com. Yeah,

1:30:00

there's only a handful of special quarterbacks in

1:30:02

the league, and we got to see two of them tonight.

1:30:05

Just a wild game. All right. That's

1:30:08

Week seven Sunday, Look

1:30:10

at us, Look at us almost mid season. Now we're

1:30:13

flying along. Coming up this week

1:30:15

on UH the Around the NFL podcast,

1:30:17

we're going to dive deep with the

1:30:20

trade deadline coming up UH

1:30:22

Tuesday show, we'll have our preview for a

1:30:25

week eight of course, and then the NFL

1:30:27

Network program, which you should DVR or

1:30:29

watch live Saturday mornings UH

1:30:32

every week, so check that out. Shook Thank

1:30:35

you as always, and now

1:30:37

we're all going including show who's it's very

1:30:39

late in downtown Cleveland. But he's

1:30:41

gonna hop on a red eye and

1:30:43

we're all gonna go straight to Ricky Hollywood's

1:30:45

apartment to protect her. So we are.

1:30:48

We're just getting started tonight, Nicky.

1:30:51

We're coming for you baby. Yeah. For a little

1:30:53

update, Um, the person does not live

1:30:55

there. Tech text of the Landlord. The cops

1:30:58

have been here. It's been quite the quite

1:31:00

the Sunday Night Escapade. We're

1:31:02

gonna form a human wall. That's

1:31:04

why I'm coming out. I'm gonna be in the middle or

1:31:07

on the edge, and me and Dan will be in the edge. Greg and Mark

1:31:09

in the middle. Yeah, and I'm

1:31:14

just gonna yell at them, like annoy them

1:31:16

until our shields will be frozen.

1:31:19

Our shields will be frozen. Pizzas nice

1:31:22

alright, Ricky, stay safe and all

1:31:25

seriousness. Um, all right, this

1:31:28

is Dan Hands is signing off for oh

1:31:31

we I asked the listeners to come

1:31:33

up with a nickname for Nick

1:31:35

Shook. I'm gonna debut it next

1:31:37

Sunday Night, so on

1:31:40

that one. So Stan Hands is

1:31:42

signing off four the Unshakable Nick

1:31:44

Shook, the Quiet Storm, the

1:31:46

Old Boss, and Ricky

1:31:48

Hollywood in West Hollywood, Stay

1:31:50

safe until

1:31:53

Tuesday. Don't safe, don't spit the

1:31:55

stoy S