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They around the NFL podcast

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will not say super Bowl today.

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I'm the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's

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around the NFL. I

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am Dan has It's.

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Got heroes here, Greg

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Rosehal Mark Sessler. Now,

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we will not say that

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word. All the

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other basic bro podcasts out there

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shrug their shoulders and say, let's

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just dig out. What is it Today's linebackers Day

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snore?

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Yeah, no, lifeless.

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There's more to the NFL

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than the big game, which is permitted. There's

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more to life, a

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lot more. You

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may notice that Mark and I are on the show today,

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and that is because the

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Sports Podcast Awards made

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their announcement the

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winner of the Best American Football

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Podcast.

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You know what me around the NFL?

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Thank you. Wow,

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what a moment. I mean, I think

1:23

it would be good to sell.

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In case there's media outlets that

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want to need a quote.

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Let's do a little press or

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an announcement of some kind of you know.

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We want to thank the

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fans, of course, we want to thank the

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academy at the Sports Podcast Awards.

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We want to thank everyone

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who got out and voted to

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take out the Fantasy Footballers first

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place, the second or for a second places first

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loser as they say. Something called

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Nightcap came in thirdclat smellulator.

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We win. We are

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victorious. Oh so

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thank you to everybody. That's nice. It's been a

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while since we took home some hardware.

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I would say this. You know, we

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we are.

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We work with a number of people involved

2:15

with a lot of the shows, and so you

2:17

know we take special pride selling

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friends. Yeah, I mean we take special pride like

2:22

they It's it resets the

2:24

everyone's are corp expectations

2:27

and I think it goes on our resume. I don't know what

2:29

we do. We win something beyond

2:31

I mean.

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Eric, did we win it? But like physically.

2:35

Cour Corvette, we get

2:38

that tweet, yeah, trophy

2:40

or something.

2:40

But yeah, we had the fantasy footballers on our

2:42

podcast earlier. It's nice to take them out pff

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more like pf humph.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I do feel like too

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far.

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I do feel like we are.

2:57

You know, we're kind of like the twenty

2:59

fourteen the music Patriots. Go ahead,

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and you know the Patriots

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had a lot of early success.

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We did too.

3:06

We famously took home a

3:08

Stitcher Award in twenty thirteen.

3:11

Podcasts Our Producer did.

3:13

Nominated for an iTunes

3:15

Award for the Best Podcast.

3:17

I don't even know if they had a winner, butore.

3:18

I don't even know if iTunes exist.

3:20

Right or Apple Store.

3:23

But it's been ten years since then, and I

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now that we've won another award and

3:28

been recognized, feel

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like our producer that stole that first award.

3:32

And had it physically the Awards

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distribute, had.

3:35

It sent to their house and then we never saw it.

3:39

They are like the Bill Buckner of

3:41

our podcast. I forgive them

3:43

now. I forgive It's

3:45

okay.

3:45

I believe that this subments

3:48

our legacy as

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the greatest NFL podcast

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that has ever existed.

3:55

And I already knew that, but

3:57

having this award, there

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is no other way.

4:01

Now, just like hoisting the

4:04

Lombardi Trophy on the day of

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the Big Game, you

4:09

can no longer argue who's the best,

4:12

the best there is, who the

4:14

best there was, the best there

4:16

ever will be.

4:17

On a personal note, one of the people

4:19

that we took out just cut them

4:21

off of the neck, was someone that took

4:24

issue with the fact that I was previously gamed

4:26

along with you guys as a top ten football

4:29

insider that show is.

4:30

Out take a seat, stool guts.

4:33

He go, We're gonna see all these people

4:35

in a week and they're gonna and they're going to twit

4:38

us.

4:39

I can't say that. I can't say that,

4:42

Sessler. I mean, how about that guy?

4:44

It is that guy.

4:45

I'll tell you who he is. He is

4:48

a member of around the NFL. The

4:50

best I think we've.

4:52

Covered it now we've got Although I'm

4:54

actually in the world, I'm in a tough spot

4:56

here because us winning a

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Actually I could view as an

5:02

insult towards me that our listeners

5:04

so badly didn't want a podcast

5:07

just toasted they didn't have myself, was a

5:09

window there that, like we were actually

5:11

trailing by a lot and suddenly they heard

5:13

that and it just went crazy

5:16

to avoid that.

5:17

So you Mark, you've said it so many

5:19

times inappropriately, this would be the time where you could

5:21

mention they had an opportunity for a violent

5:23

coudeta.

5:24

Right, and they and yet they stood

5:26

down that they were non plus by the concept

5:28

of Greg taking over the show on a solo effort.

5:30

They put down their shields. Well,

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listen, that's a good way to start the show.

5:38

And yeah, if you could find out, Eric, if you could let

5:40

us know, we could end the show right there.

5:41

Do we Yeah, do we get something

5:43

for it?

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Because I would like I see that glass right

5:46

there, right next to my the football I got

5:49

for helping.

5:51

Yeah, Clemson, I believe it.

5:52

Was you didn't help anywhere, the

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most ridiculous thing I know.

5:58

Says otherwise and signed by him,

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So helping out the underprivileged

6:03

youth of Clemson, Gregy. We

6:05

have that in the window for anyone who

6:07

walks by, including Greg, right

6:10

next to it.

6:11

We should have something.

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Yet, I'll reach out to see what comes along with it.

6:14

Maybe some pizza comes with it.

6:17

Well, well, I think at this point they realize who they're dealing

6:19

with. Dejorno. It's like, let's start shipping

6:21

product, all right.

6:22

So with that said, we have

6:24

a nice show ahead of us because we

6:26

will not say it. In fact, if

6:29

anyone says the

6:32

name of the game as it's popularly known,

6:35

or even mentions the two teams, either

6:37

of the two teams, right, it

6:39

is a And this is going to be documented

6:42

by our producer Eric.

6:44

Five dollars, Fine, five

6:46

dollars. It's not insignificant

6:48

when you start, when it starts.

6:49

I remember when this, when this show first started,

6:53

the tradition, and I feel like Wes struggled

6:55

with it.

6:56

He would have owed a.

6:57

Lot of yes, I remember

6:59

that.

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I think the NFL should calm down on,

7:02

you know, not letting anyone use that word. We

7:04

can't use that word today. But driving

7:06

into work, I didn't notice in

7:09

our town of Inglewood where Sofi Stadium kind

7:12

of barged in, Hey, we're taking over Sofi

7:14

Stadium. It's the Big Game block

7:16

party on Sunday. Can we give it in Inglewood

7:18

a breakout?

7:20

Yeah?

7:20

We give the city a champions rights

7:22

to that certain phrase

7:26

to it only feels fair.

7:27

I mean we we've essentially taken over that city

7:29

with the stadium and other in our office, so we

7:31

got.

7:31

Bomber down the street building an arena

7:33

too.

7:34

It's like, guy, I mean, we're turning

7:36

this into a vast playground.

7:39

Can we at least give them the rights to

7:41

the big name game's true name?

7:43

Wait, one technical question, like

7:45

so if you say the name of the of the Big

7:47

Game, you owe five dollars to who?

7:50

Where is it going?

7:52

It's going into a slush fund for

7:55

the show for U said

7:57

another time.

7:58

Like here's a great example. You know,

8:01

want to take a ten bucks.

8:04

We talked about, well,

8:07

I can't actually say what it is right now because it's something that's

8:09

coming up next week. But I have there's a

8:11

certain project, a

8:13

creative project that we're working on that the fans are gonna

8:15

find out soon about that's gonna need some type of capital

8:18

to back it, revolving T

8:21

shirts that it could

8:23

go toward that fund beautiful,

8:25

So it's a slush fund and

8:28

you can't say it.

8:29

And Eric, it is so important

8:31

that you.

8:33

Legislated because we might miss something, and

8:36

the worst thing is when everyone misses

8:38

it and then after the show the listeners like,

8:40

oh you did say.

8:40

It can't happen.

8:42

Speaking of listeners, we're

8:45

going to open up the mail bag, and again

8:47

it's a don't say you know what mail

8:50

bag, no questions pertaining to the

8:52

big game or the participants

8:55

involved in it.

8:56

But before we do that, let's

8:58

hit the news. Damn it was going to be a winner.

9:02

You gotta have confidence in your team, gotta have confidence

9:04

in yourself, and if you don't have that confidence, you can't play

9:07

football. We all felt we could win. We

9:09

won, and I asked Joe specifically, Joe,

9:12

do you feel like you're King of the hill. Joe,

9:14

You're king of the Hill.

9:16

No, no, we're

9:18

King of the hell.

9:19

We got the team. Brother, that's

9:23

sort of a starting game.

9:25

January nineteen sixty nine, and

9:27

that was sal Marciano, who was a

9:31

mainstay in New York sports coverage,

9:33

who as a young man asked

9:36

Joe King of the Hill, which is just

9:38

one of the more funny, like.

9:40

Outdated ways of expressing

9:42

yourself.

9:43

But that wanted to get some Joe in there

9:45

during another trying era for

9:47

his team. Let's

9:50

get to the news, and let's start with

9:52

the coaching carousel, which

9:58

it's coming. It's coming to a stop. Every

10:02

head coaching spot is now filled. Today

10:06

we learned that the Washington

10:08

Commanders have

10:11

made their decision hiring Cowboys

10:14

defensive coordinator Dan Quinn as their

10:16

new coach. Quinn replaces

10:18

Ron Rivera, who was hired by new owner

10:20

Josh Harris one day after the season

10:22

ended. So Quinn,

10:25

who was the highest paid DC in the league

10:28

for the Cowboys. They had some really successful

10:31

defenses while he was there, even

10:33

though maybe they disappointed a little bit down the.

10:35

Stretch this year.

10:36

Of course, he served as the Falcons head

10:38

coach in two thousand and fifteen

10:41

to two thousand twenty.

10:44

There was a twenty eight to three comeback

10:46

in twenty sixteen after

10:48

the twenty sixteen team.

10:50

Was it?

10:52

Which one was it?

10:53

It was a large event, sporting event that

10:55

featured the Patriots.

10:56

I'd try to get you, didn't get you. I was trying

10:58

to get the ten tho I'm too locked

11:00

in. Yeah, you're very locked in anyway. So he was the

11:03

head coach of that team. Atlanta then

11:07

let him go when things kind

11:09

of fell apart in the years after that, and

11:11

now he gets his second shot at

11:13

the job. And it should be said, Greg that we're

11:16

gonna talk about the new head coach of the

11:19

Seahawks as well, because Quinn

11:21

doesn't appear to be the commander's first choice here,

11:24

but they do have a head coach.

11:25

No he doesn't.

11:28

Maybe it was gonna be Mike McDonald. Maybe

11:30

it was gonna be Ben Johnson.

11:33

It sounds like he was the third choice of the commanders.

11:35

And Ben Johnson especially

11:37

was the guy that the insiders

11:40

kept connecting and everyone who

11:42

seems to have good relationships with their new

11:44

GM, Adam Peters, who was really well

11:46

respected around the league, but man like he is

11:49

getting pumped up as kind of the GM

11:51

Bell of the ball, and they kept saying he's looking for an innovative

11:53

offensive mine and you just got the feeling

11:55

that Ben Johnson was his choice and

11:57

they were maybe caught a little flat

12:00

and they wind up with Dan Quinn,

12:03

who I think is a good

12:05

choice to run a team a second

12:08

time. That like Raheem Morris, he's

12:11

had some time, not as long as Raheem Morris,

12:13

but to learn from what happened, and

12:15

more than anything, strikes me as a

12:17

guy who can be a little Mike Tomlin, like

12:20

hopefully having a good idea of hiring

12:23

the right people. He knows a lot of people within the

12:25

league and having an overall idea

12:28

instead of him offering you like crazy

12:30

schematic advantages. I think he did a great job

12:32

with Dallas and he's shown that he's improved

12:34

I think as a defensive play caller and he brings that to

12:36

the table. We'll see who he hires as his

12:39

DC, but it's probably not one in Washington

12:42

after Ron Rivera that gets you as

12:44

excited for this new generation.

12:47

And we'll see who he hires as a OC, which is big.

12:49

Yeah, It's it's easy

12:52

to forget that early with the Falcons

12:54

before they went to the Big Game that Quinn

12:58

was correctly touted to someone that quickly

13:01

developed, like his defense and young defensive

13:03

players. And on the flip side, you had Kyle

13:05

Shanahan running the offense. Shanahan

13:07

leaves and that the development of the defense

13:09

stopped and then the Falcons just started to become

13:12

unwatchable. But Quinn, I think is a

13:14

consistent guy. He's like well

13:17

respected. It's it's not that it's a disappointing

13:19

higher but I'm with you that I think

13:21

that the whole search committee they put together

13:24

and Adam Peters coming in as a very powerful

13:26

general manager, thought Ben Johnson,

13:28

with the number two pick, the most cap room in the league

13:31

as a quarterback, you know, developer would

13:33

make the most sense and really galvanize

13:35

a Washington fan base. It's it's been a

13:37

long time and there were these reports that

13:39

Ben Johnson was asking for too much

13:41

money, and I we'd ever really heard Ben Johnson

13:44

or his people responded at any

13:46

level, but I think.

13:47

They part of it.

13:47

They did when that first report came out

13:49

during the season from Josina Anderson that

13:51

he wanted fifteen million dollars a year, and his agent did win

13:54

on the record and say that's not true.

13:55

That's just ridiculous. Yeah, I mean more in this

13:58

in this cycle.

13:58

You're right.

13:59

Adam Schefter threw out there that like which

14:01

is away one thing?

14:02

One thing though, because because I think,

14:05

like, if you're Ben Johnson and you realize, if you

14:07

have one more good year at the Lions, you get your

14:09

pick of seven or eight teams, and

14:11

do you want to come in into a team

14:13

where the general manager is essentially over

14:16

you and the owner? I think

14:18

I think it's like, this isn't a hand

14:20

in hand situation. I just think Adam Peters

14:22

is a very powerful general

14:25

manager and figure in that organization, and like all

14:27

right for Quinn, I think Ben Johnson decided not.

14:29

To take it.

14:29

I mean I agree and disagree

14:32

at the same time, because Ben

14:35

Johnson could have another really good year with Detroit.

14:37

I don't think all of a sudden he's going to be this guy that

14:39

can go watch around saying I want full control

14:41

of everything.

14:43

He's Ben Johnson.

14:43

I mean, the resume is nice, but it's not He's

14:46

not like an all time guy or Kyle Shanahan.

14:48

I just think something made him blanche at this situation,

14:50

like something.

14:51

And maybe it is the money now.

14:53

Just also, and you know, it

14:56

takes some audacity for Ben Johnson

14:58

if that's true, he was asking for fifteen million, because

15:00

like Jim Harbaugh reportedly

15:02

is getting paid sixteen million per year by

15:05

the Chargers. So and that's a proven

15:07

guy with pelts on the wall, So

15:09

I can understand why a team might, you know,

15:11

take a step back if that was true.

15:13

Now we'll see.

15:14

And I know this is optimism season

15:17

and every head coach hiring is viewed

15:19

as a success, and every new GM is seen as

15:21

a big time difference maker. But

15:24

and I'm not going to dwell on it, but I just I

15:27

wonder how we'll look back at this in a year or two.

15:29

And we made this.

15:30

Big deal about well, Bill Belichick wasn't

15:32

even considered for this job from what

15:34

we understand.

15:35

Actually now they did sort of add some reporting

15:37

from Diana Rossini that

15:40

they talked.

15:40

To Bill Belichick.

15:41

So they talked about but they

15:43

considered him that they and early on with him,

15:45

Belichick and the commanders were there

15:47

was a lot of.

15:48

Yes, and it was deemed that the combined

15:50

wisdom of Dan Quinn and Adam

15:53

Peters, you know, that's

15:55

the way to go, Okay, we'll see.

15:56

Let's see how this all.

15:57

Looks in a year or two, you know, ye find

16:00

out, because now Bill's not getting a job

16:02

because the other head coaching

16:05

position with the Seattle Seahawks

16:07

is also has been

16:09

filled. It is Mike McDonald, the

16:12

defensive coordinator of the Ravens, who obviously

16:14

had a big year there

16:17

with everyone else until they got to championship

16:19

Sunday. So he is

16:22

he is now the replacement

16:25

for Pete Carroll. And it's a

16:27

six year contract. These contracts are huge for

16:29

these coaches.

16:31

And also in general, it's just is

16:33

that wild, Like six years.

16:35

Hardback up five that makes

16:37

a little more sense, Like that's a proven guy,

16:40

whereas McDonald, we don't know what he's gonna be like

16:42

in this position.

16:43

And he is thirty six years old.

16:44

They literally took Pete

16:47

Carroll's age divided by two. So

16:50

this is a this is a youth movement

16:52

in addition to just changing the

16:54

scenery and the decision making and the.

16:57

Vibe of the organization right now.

16:58

So the six years struck

17:01

me too, Dan, that was one of the first things I thought

17:03

about because I was like, well, six is weird. It's usually

17:06

four or five for a

17:08

new coach, and six just makes me

17:10

think, well, Washington was probably in on

17:13

this, and that's like, that's

17:15

how it works. And I think they

17:19

really loved the idea of McDonald. As

17:24

our friend Mina Kimes called it on

17:26

her podcast they did this week.

17:27

You guys should check that out too. The Shanna handler,

17:30

which I like that I want to steal it because

17:32

like he handled Kyle

17:34

Shanahan.

17:35

Certainly the Rams had some good numbers

17:37

against him, but Houston and Bobby Slowick

17:40

and all the different tree the Shanahan trees,

17:42

the Miami like they did a good job and

17:44

it's as modern a defense as you can possibly

17:47

imagine in terms of the disguise and getting

17:49

everyone to sort of understand

17:51

holistically like what they're doing on

17:53

each play. Where the back seven was really connected

17:55

because if you look at the Ravens, they had a lot of injuries and

17:58

I wouldn't say they were like the most talented defense

18:00

in the league, and they really got it done for two

18:02

straight years.

18:03

I like, I can't think of of

18:05

these coordinators that you know a couple of years he was

18:07

in Michigan before he went to Baltimore. Wasn't there for

18:09

that long, but did an incredible job with that defense.

18:12

Like his name in the last couple of weeks

18:14

just bubbled up and you start to hear like all these

18:16

like RG three, who was with the Ravens for

18:18

a spell, like talked about Mike McDaniel

18:20

just coming in, Mike McDonald coming in and just

18:22

like talking to players in general

18:25

and just being this incredible connector.

18:26

So I think it's like the person.

18:28

He kind of fits Seattle and it's a nice transition

18:30

from Pete Carroll. But it's a new message

18:32

as well, and he's got it. He's got it. Like their defense,

18:35

you keep thinking they have a great defense. They were not last

18:37

year and they but they still have a lot of young players from

18:39

to work with and I think someone like Jamal

18:41

Adams checkulator, but like a lot of these

18:44

other pieces like they could they could be a

18:46

quick riser from where they were at the end

18:48

of last season.

18:50

Quillan Devin wear thisspoon, Quandary

18:52

Diggs like, that's that's a nice start

18:54

to your secondary.

18:55

I'm with you.

18:55

They probably get rid of Adams pat there's

18:58

a lot of free agents on the Ravens and they're

19:00

losing coaches all over the place here, but

19:02

they could also lose players like Mattabique and

19:04

Queen and Clowney. We'll see. They have

19:06

a lot to decide there. But I'm

19:09

excited. I'm excited about it a lot. Mike McDonald.

19:11

I do the one figure in Seattle obviously

19:13

that I wonder about a little

19:16

bit when you have Pete Carroll exit stage left

19:18

and anyone comes in and including the new offensive

19:20

coordinator and all that a new system, like,

19:23

is Gino Smith going to face competition or

19:25

find himself somewhere else or is he going to have the

19:28

organizational belief that he did before? Because I feel like that

19:30

was the beating heart of that was Pete Carroll.

19:32

Wasn't part of this decision to move

19:34

on from Pete Carroll, who's an accomplished guy

19:36

who's been there forever, to you

19:39

know, change the status quo the organization.

19:42

Yeah, and I think Gino has been very

19:44

good for them on balance. But is he the

19:46

guy that gets you over the hump or do they want to go I

19:48

would not be surprised to put it that way, if they

19:51

aggressively seek out another

19:53

option beyond what they have in house with Drew

19:55

Locke.

19:55

I think it'd be a I think it's more

19:58

likely to be a rookie, but it wouldn't be shocking. He

20:00

has some guaranteed money coming on February

20:03

sixteenth, so it's early in the off season Gino

20:05

Smith does, and I fully expect him

20:07

to get that because his salary is manageable,

20:09

but I think it's a negative for him that. Look,

20:12

Shane Waldron's already gone. I do wonder if they

20:14

know, if they knew McDonald was going to be the head

20:16

coach, whether they would have tried to retain

20:18

Waldron, who I think did a good job. And so

20:20

there's I have no clue what kind of offense

20:23

that they're gonna be running there. Gino's

20:25

pretty like offense agnostic, just

20:27

because he's like a traditional pocket

20:30

quarterback where he could maybe working anything,

20:32

but McDonald,

20:34

Like, I just love the way that, like Marlon Humphrey talked

20:36

about how like everyone in that defense sort

20:38

of you hear linebackers

20:41

say like, oh, he knew what everyone else's

20:43

role was supposed to be, But in this defense, everyone

20:45

knew what everyone's role was supposed to be. And it's

20:47

just like he's the youngest coach in the league. Jared

20:49

Mayo only uh lasted for.

20:52

This is one of these age things that's crazy. It's like they're

20:55

both thirty six, but like you go to Sean

20:57

McVay is still only thirty seven years

20:59

old.

21:01

It's crazy.

21:03

Another let's spin the carousel

21:05

again. M h.

21:06

We got a lot.

21:08

By the way, they commanders were trying

21:10

to call up McDonald as he was getting

21:12

on the plane to go to.

21:13

Seattle, like hey, hey, hey, gives

21:16

one more chance. He's like, that's right,

21:18

I got.

21:18

He just like copied that text

21:21

that they sent him to his agent, and then the agent

21:23

copied that text to the top Seahawks

21:25

and the like.

21:25

All right, six years.

21:27

I also heard that they were like essentially

21:30

en route to Ben Johnson when he announced that he

21:32

didn't want to take a job.

21:34

Yes they did. They didn't. They

21:36

interviewed Terry Aaron Glenn there anyways,

21:38

but they were. They were in the plane and

21:40

stuff.

21:41

All right.

21:42

The Titans hire another Ravens

21:44

assistant, Dennard Wilson, as their defensive

21:47

coordinator. The Packers hired Buston College

21:49

coach Jeff Halfley.

21:53

He was yes, Jeff Haffley. He was BC's coach

21:56

for four years. As defensive coordinator, the

21:58

Ravens or you hitting me? They

22:00

named linebacker inside linebackers coach

22:03

Zach or their DC. That's

22:05

a good position. That's similar to uh, you

22:08

know what's been going on in San Francisco in recent years.

22:10

Although I don't think Steve Wilkes is going have

22:13

the same success, but that

22:16

that could get you a job.

22:17

Just got McDonald's job.

22:18

So Or takes over that defense and the Panthers

22:21

do decide or Canalas decides

22:24

a Gio of Vero ever will

22:27

remain their defensive coordinator.

22:30

One thing, like because the Jeff Hafley thing the Green

22:32

Bay that was such a huge hire after what's

22:34

been going on like the past couple of years, Like I was

22:36

like, why did why did they don't? He doesn't really

22:38

know Lafleora very well, but he had He

22:40

worked under Mike Petton in Cleveland.

22:43

He worked under Shanahan as well, so there

22:45

is some link with the floor.

22:46

Where's Mike Petnat by the way.

22:48

He may be back in that cabin. He built

22:50

that cabin on the lake in Ohio.

22:52

He went like right next to Brown's training

22:54

camp though no, no, that's where he lived.

22:56

Thinking of the collision Low

22:58

Crossers where pet Nat these days

23:00

go ahead.

23:01

More well, no, but like like Halflee,

23:03

there was reporting that Halflee

23:05

decided to leave a head coaching job

23:07

at BC because of the nonsensical

23:10

like nature of like the transfer portal and

23:12

the nil So he was just like, I don't want

23:14

to do this scene.

23:15

We're I go like coach real football.

23:17

So I mean, I think it's an interesting, strange

23:19

higher because unless you're deep

23:21

in BC territories. He went

23:23

twenty two and twenty six at PC, I don't know, right,

23:25

It's.

23:26

Like, I think being a college coach

23:28

now is so tricky,

23:30

and it's just it's the situation

23:33

college football has given to themselves

23:35

that essentially now coaches and players

23:38

like, you don't blame Halflee, you don't blame

23:40

the players.

23:41

You kind of blame that system.

23:43

But he came into Ohio State and like the year

23:45

he had there was like incredible. But

23:48

I think the Packers, by all accounts and the

23:50

Rams might have had a Gio

23:52

Evro as their number one choice

23:54

for defensive coordinator and

23:56

the Panthers had rights

23:59

to his contract and just did not let him

24:01

leave and wanted to see who they ended

24:03

up hiring as a head coach, did not let him leave who

24:05

knows. Maybe you work out a thing and you use a little David

24:07

Tepper money there.

24:09

But I do like I do like Tepper

24:12

by the way at Senior Bowl.

24:14

Is that wherever he's I think they were at a press

24:16

conference today for their new head

24:18

coach Canals.

24:19

Pepper Be asked a question about something

24:22

pertaining to the Panthers, and temper Be saying

24:24

He's like, I'm receding to

24:27

the background.

24:27

You're not going to hear from me. So Tepper

24:30

be changing his profile or be attempting.

24:32

Not great for temper Be talking like, you

24:35

know what we thought would be, you.

24:36

Would think that. But I have a feeling he's

24:38

going to struggle. He'll be back, keep the stance. But

24:40

right now Tepper Be laying low.

24:43

Shout out to Zach Orr by the way, because first

24:45

of all, we can use the ore you kidding me? Drop more and

24:47

we'll talk with the con He's thirty one years

24:49

old. I was like, wasn't he just in the NFL? He

24:51

is thirty one years old, and I

24:53

got to think they chose him over Denard Wilson,

24:56

who got a lot of looks elsewhere

24:58

and got that job in inten See, where he's

25:00

going to run that defense.

25:01

He's everybody else see where this is going, by the way, what

25:03

because now the what's in vogue is

25:05

you must hire a young hotshot, end

25:08

up with some high school analytics

25:10

genius, like some seventeen year

25:13

old kid running a team.

25:15

Like twenty five percent of the people that we've talked

25:17

about during this hiring cycle like came

25:19

from analytics, and half of them work for PFF, like

25:22

Bobby Slowick, and there's others that just like that's

25:24

not unusual, and it's like the Sean mcvaye of the world

25:26

that are hiring these guys.

25:27

But I mean, let's it's it's going to get to the

25:29

point where somebody before they even have their learners

25:31

permit.

25:32

Is going to be running a team they just

25:34

learned. Like, look, god, we've done.

25:36

We're ahead of the curve. Your curve.

25:38

I laugh at your curve, Look at my curve.

25:41

I love boy crafting like rise over run

25:43

you know, diagrams in their math notebook and suddenly.

25:46

Run fifty three. So that

25:48

should make you feel better. That's a coach that's older

25:51

than all of us.

25:52

It's a great hire.

25:53

So I guess maybe, I uh, I know, I'm

25:55

supposed to say every higher is amazing.

25:58

I don't love it. Not, No, everybody's

26:00

like this is such a great high. This is one of the great

26:02

hot shots.

26:03

We talk about this how the sausage gets

26:05

maids with the insider insiders,

26:07

we have to understand, like everybody is

26:09

pumping up these guys is like, yes,

26:11

the most gifted future roster

26:14

builder or a coach who truly deserves

26:16

a second edg shot.

26:17

Let's see where all these guys well.

26:19

Someone like David Canal's like, we don't we

26:21

have no idea.

26:22

On a person right, on a personal I

26:24

think you have hit on something that's true. Like for

26:26

me personally, I found as

26:29

wrong as we are every

26:31

year, like incredibly wrong about our preseason

26:34

predictions of like who's gonna win and stuff,

26:36

as wrong as I am of like which free

26:38

agents are going to work out. Like sometimes

26:41

I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong, but I'm very often wrong. I

26:43

feel like there's nothing I'm more wrong about than

26:45

knowing which coach is going to be good or not. So

26:47

it's just like at this point, it's just like, Okay, this

26:49

makes sense, and I have

26:51

a hard time like being like that's not gonna

26:54

work because it's just you just have no

26:56

clue.

26:56

Mike McDaniel friends, Mike McDonald

26:58

that's gonna be annoying.

27:00

By the way, is.

27:00

This year's version of

27:03

Once upon a Time Brandon Staley Like remember

27:05

like the the flowers being thrown

27:07

at his feet when he was hired, the like

27:10

this.

27:11

You don't know, but right now everything looks good.

27:14

It's like it's like the one day

27:16

where they haven't made a mistake yet, and so

27:19

okay, it's a one day. There'suld be like a one day window

27:21

and then you can start to get there.

27:22

The problem with Quinn is he's the most ron rivera

27:24

ish, That's.

27:25

What's really.

27:28

And I feel, yeah, I feel for Commanders

27:31

fans because obviously all the things they've gone

27:33

through with the ownership, but

27:35

it seems like there's still it's taken

27:37

time to get out of the mud here and maybe

27:40

Quinn listen, Quinn not

27:42

to double back. But Quinn nearly

27:45

one a big one, right.

27:48

He had Kyle with him. He like, we said,

27:50

we have to. He needs somebody

27:52

up and coming.

27:53

Well.

27:53

One thing though, like if you go back

27:56

one of the most inquack like the

27:58

what one hiring that had people boll flustered

28:01

and annoyed and thought it was completely

28:03

failed. When they hired him as a second head coach.

28:05

Was Bill Belichick to the Patriots.

28:07

His Q rating was low.

28:08

The whole thing had happened with the Jets, like there

28:11

were a lot of people thinking they gave up too much for

28:13

him. It was like that Bill Belichick was not highly

28:15

regarded and he wasn't thought of as like

28:17

a guy that was easy to get along with.

28:19

And it was like there was a lot of grublin going into the

28:21

twenty two thousand and one season two after

28:23

one year.

28:24

Right, so he just you never know, Like I mean, Quinn,

28:26

it's not a sexy pick, but he

28:28

could be more reliably successful

28:30

two years from now than anyone and these other guys who were unknowns.

28:33

Yeah, I remember when they

28:36

came out that Belichick was going to replace Parcels.

28:38

I think a lot of Jets fans at the time were

28:40

like, Okay, that sounds pretty good.

28:42

But it wasn't like, oh my god, we're getting Belichick.

28:44

And then maybe it was when all the warring began

28:46

with the Patriots about where how

28:49

things would end up, there was a feeling.

28:51

Like, oh, just let him go.

28:52

It's not like you know, turned out he

28:54

was somebody would want and now he can't get a job. Well,

28:57

you know, maybe.

28:58

Next year a quarter cent later.

29:00

But yes, I did put it out there into

29:02

the world that we'd

29:05

welcome him. You know, I know he's going to

29:07

do some media and little fourth

29:09

cheer action maybe on Wednesdays something

29:11

like that Belichick's corner.

29:12

Wait, replace Colleen, not

29:15

Wednesday? Whoa you really

29:17

heat seated seek door?

29:19

That was going to be though Thursday.

29:21

How about on the previous show.

29:22

Maybe she won't listen to this one though, He'll be.

29:24

Okay, just throwing out a rand.

29:25

Greg was very hot on this when he thought you and I were

29:27

no longer part of.

29:28

The show, right, it

29:31

was actually me Colleen an Belichick speaking

29:34

of Belichick.

29:35

Yea, I do not I do not envy

29:39

Zaddie because Jerry Jones

29:41

keeps talking, talking and talking and talking.

29:44

If you ask Jerry Jones

29:48

about anything involving

29:50

head coach and job security, he will not outright

29:53

back his guy. Really, he's always going to leave

29:55

the door open. We have a quote here. You

29:57

see this quote. Someone asked about what he

30:00

could work with Bill Belichick, and

30:03

here's what Jarah Jones said the Yahoo

30:05

Sports. I know him personally and I like

30:07

him. There's no doubt in my mind we could

30:09

work together.

30:10

None like.

30:12

I don't know why Jarah thinks he needs to say that. No,

30:15

I don't. I have no idea.

30:18

Now his his star defensive player,

30:20

Michah Parsons, came out and

30:23

got after the team, saying they

30:25

were the old we were outplayed out

30:28

scheme. Did he say out coach? That's usually

30:30

what said too. So he was

30:32

filled with frustration about

30:35

that situation. And then also

30:38

this week, Jarah was pontificating

30:40

about listen, we haven't put it. I

30:43

think this is what I think. This is the metaphor. We

30:45

haven't put it through the hoop yet. But

30:48

we're right at the rim, right there,

30:51

Jarah, right

30:54

there.

30:56

I thought we made a pretty good moved four years ago

30:59

my Karthy, and he's

31:01

had some great in season success.

31:05

Now he's come up short three times

31:08

three times and advanced us in the playoff.

31:11

Okay, but I like the fact that

31:13

he's hanging around the rim,

31:16

and I like what the team has done to hang

31:18

around the rim. So I

31:21

think of what the answer

31:23

that I would have is that I'm aware that we're

31:25

hanging around the rim. We're

31:27

not getting the ball in, but we let's

31:31

don't discount

31:34

hanging around the rim and

31:36

where we are right now with the players we've

31:38

got. And I'm thinking about it

31:40

from the.

31:40

Whole book, which

31:43

is it's apt the metaphor because

31:46

Mike McCarthy he can dunk.

31:47

By the way McCarthy.

31:50

I know people are going to say, oh no, he's a bigger

31:52

guy, know that guy. He can cross you over, he

31:55

can barrel down a lane, and he could throw

31:57

down a thunderbomb.

31:59

On His football is completely different than basketball.

32:01

Dan, When have you ever seen him do

32:05

that athletically?

32:06

What you just mentioned my dreams. But

32:08

I imagine he can.

32:09

That's all I love Jerry

32:12

Jones. I'm starting to like him more and more because that was

32:14

an utterly absurd soliloquy. And

32:16

you've got a coach who's lucky

32:19

wasn't fired. You've lost your defensive coordinator. Your quarterback

32:22

has a fifty nine million dollar

32:24

cap hit, which means

32:26

like, do you have to extend him to fix that or

32:28

do you let twenty five percent of your cap

32:30

be eating up by and lose his playoff

32:33

game?

32:33

Push the money? Yeah, I think they will extend him.

32:35

I Uh, he

32:39

loves ball though, you gotta admit, like at this point

32:41

in his life. He's there in Mobile.

32:43

You could see he's wearing one of the lanyards.

32:45

He shows up.

32:47

You know, I'm sure it's a press agent gets it for him, but he

32:49

puts the lanyard on. It's like the draft starts

32:51

in Mobile.

32:52

He's wearing the lake like he's hanging out in Mobile

32:54

for five days right after the season, Like

32:57

he never gets he'll be in Indianapolis.

32:59

He's on the cycle, but

33:01

he knows what he's doing there with Belichick. He's sending

33:04

a little message to his guy, Hey, keep

33:06

us in your thoughts. Maybe he's

33:08

even aware that there's been some rumors there

33:11

down there at the Senior Boy, I bet he is.

33:13

Greg Bodard from Boston Sports Journal put this

33:15

out there that that there.

33:17

Were some Eagles Belichick

33:19

connections, that that Howie and Belichick

33:22

have a good relationship, and that

33:24

that maybe it was just a rumor mill, but that if

33:26

things didn't work out with Sirianni, if like that meeting

33:28

they had with Sirianni didn't.

33:30

Work out, that Belichick was maybe.

33:32

On online one and that we

33:35

got Bill kind of hovering over this NFC

33:37

East as we enter twenty twenty.

33:38

Four, he

33:42

could end up back at the Giants. By the way, that

33:46

is that I would wish.

33:47

The New York Post has been writing about that too, So

33:49

it's like every everyone wants.

33:51

Them all right, that's what's

33:53

happening in the news. And in case you

33:56

just joined us, the news went

33:58

down. We are the

34:01

champions of the American Sports

34:03

Podcast Awards.

34:05

Is that what it is?

34:07

It's the Sports Podcast Awards. The

34:09

category was the best American Football Podcast.

34:12

That's the lead news item today.

34:15

But we have done what we have achieved.

34:20

I don't want to say nobody said

34:23

we can do it.

34:24

I think a lot of people doubted us.

34:26

I don't want to say nobody believed in us, but

34:28

I'm gonna say it. I remember

34:31

when we started this podcast, well,

34:34

we had a boss that said, you guys can't even all

34:36

be in the studio at the same time. We

34:39

need one person in the newsroom for optics.

34:44

And I remember, after a long road

34:46

to get full time employment with this company,

34:48

another boss no longer with the company

34:51

said to me, I know, you think

34:53

you're getting this job for that podcast, but it's

34:55

not about the podcast.

34:57

You know what I said to myself, you

35:00

it's about the podcast.

35:02

So this is an award that celebrates

35:06

everything we've done.

35:07

And we went out and had a great dinner last night.

35:09

The three of us did a State of the

35:11

Union conversation, had a few drinks.

35:13

We didn't even know this was going to occur

35:15

when we had.

35:16

The night this was this was not the

35:18

time.

35:18

It wasn't. It wasn't. But it

35:21

shows our humility.

35:22

Though after eleven years, the

35:24

humility on display, I think is

35:27

impossible to miss.

35:29

I also want to just say to the that

35:32

there's a technical UH department

35:34

gentlemen who about seven or eight years ago

35:36

UH watched many of our shows from Afar

35:39

and confidently labeled

35:41

us as podcast posos. We're now podcastposos

35:44

who have won a massive award an international

35:47

war defect.

35:47

I think he liked the podcast, said the I

35:50

don't.

35:51

I've never spoken to him about any other

35:53

aspect of the show, but that's how we were labeled.

35:56

Watch us fly, those

35:58

can fly to.

35:59

You're not exactly dreading is

36:01

just such a good time to check the sink on these podcast

36:03

posals.

36:05

Yeah, he sounds like he likes the show.

36:06

No, I've talked to him many times as we work

36:09

together, and you know, he always makes a joke about

36:11

it, but you know who doesn't make jokes that you're

36:13

not you're not exaggerating about that.

36:15

That first boss.

36:16

There is no exaggeration that he thought this was

36:19

a completely useless waste of time,

36:21

that he acted a visionary. That man

36:23

actively discouraged throughout

36:26

the process and tried to break up on some level

36:28

and get me out of it too, like what are you

36:30

doing?

36:30

You should be The amount of times

36:32

management, that's

36:35

right when he was.

36:35

A million times he

36:37

met really tried to end it.

36:39

The amount of times management and current

36:41

management is excellent, and and we're very

36:43

happy with all the shadowy figures actively

36:46

working with the show. But

36:48

the the number of times management

36:51

tried to kill the show before it

36:53

even began or just when it was gaining

36:55

momentum. Give me my music again, please, if

36:58

you're just joining us, If you're just joining

37:01

us, we are the winners of the American

37:04

Football Best

37:06

American Football Podcast.

37:10

They try to kill us.

37:11

They tried to say you're

37:14

not good enough, and we said,

37:17

no, bro, you're not good

37:19

enough.

37:22

Okay, and now here we are the winners of the Most

37:24

Humble podcast twenty twenty

37:26

four.

37:26

I think we're selfless, we're charitable.

37:29

The humility is so

37:31

bright and shining it's blinding everyone

37:34

around us.

37:36

All right, let's take a break. Definitely,

37:39

we'll be right back. Hit the mailbag.

37:52

In case you're just joining us.

37:56

We are the winners.

37:59

The others have ast and

38:02

they must live with that reality.

38:06

Thank you to Henry Hodgson, by the way over

38:09

in the UK, our friend.

38:11

Do you know that he galvanized some some voters

38:14

in the auction.

38:14

We definitely reminded us to mention it on the show,

38:16

which which which helped.

38:17

Although I think he played a hand in us being

38:20

nominated. Oh that's

38:22

I.

38:22

Understand, that's true. We were not nominated the

38:24

first three or two or three years.

38:26

What a success story.

38:27

We went right into the win. The problem

38:29

is the talk, as Patrick.

38:31

Riley would say, the disease of more. I've already

38:33

gotten a text from one of our contributors,

38:36

David Ely, who says congrats

38:38

and then follows that up with as a recurring guest,

38:41

do I get hardware?

38:42

So already people are.

38:44

A shout out on the show. I think is more

38:46

than ant.

38:47

We spoke about him, you know at length the other day, probably

38:49

not in the way that he would like to find him a wife.

38:53

That's our next that's our next mission, that offseason.

38:58

That might take more than one off season.

39:00

Listen, he's

39:03

a.

39:03

Great guy though he's a catcher. Yes,

39:05

all right, it

39:08

is that. Don't say you know what? And so far,

39:11

Eric, how much money has been raised?

39:14

Zero? We haven't even closed. This is too easy.

39:18

There's like one reference to like San Francisco

39:20

City.

39:22

Wait a minute, it.

39:23

Was it about the no team. It was like, what

39:25

was I think it was Mark? He said, what's

39:27

happening in San Francis?

39:28

You know what? Like like, let's let's wait

39:30

a minute.

39:30

But that's

39:33

I'm gonna check the table hit actually

39:36

test to make sure this buzzer works in case I'm having

39:38

to.

39:38

Contribute to a slush typically

39:41

illegal, but I know what.

39:42

That's this?

39:43

Do you want to throw the red flag because you can to

39:46

challenge whether or not you owe the ten I.

39:48

Mean I need.

39:49

I want to.

39:51

I believe if everyone behind the glass says that

39:53

I did that, then I'll be happily contribute

39:55

to the slush front.

39:56

Are challenging it, though I would

39:58

like to.

39:58

I would like confirmation after the show, Yeah, in

40:01

a gray area. They'll challenge that, and we'll leave it in gray

40:03

area and I will Well, I.

40:04

Know you said San Francisco, like you don't need to challenge

40:06

it. Oh, I had a new idea.

40:07

I'm just saying, like the reference I was a little vague

40:10

on like whether or not because you didn't say forty nine ers,

40:16

I.

40:18

Got ropido. Buzz yourself and take

40:20

out your dollars.

40:23

I actually I'm just thinking

40:25

of it now. Can you bring this big funk

40:27

back there?

40:28

He's not no big fun shoot.

40:30

All right, I'm gonna save it for next time because I

40:32

the slush fund actually had a better idea

40:35

for what it's going to go toward, and it's

40:38

it involves funk. Okay,

40:40

but we'll have to sit on that one. Just let him know

40:42

you, Okay, maybe it's good. It's gonna

40:45

be something I think he will really appreciate, and

40:48

maybe we can get the listeners involved.

40:50

I can't wait to Greg and I think I know,

40:53

I think I know, but I would be very surprised

40:55

if pay it.

40:55

But don't, Yeah, don't say anything. I have an

40:57

idea, not a fanny pack. I want to write. I

40:59

want to right or wrong around funk, and

41:02

I want to use this show's platform,

41:04

can't get my music. I think our

41:06

show, what we strive

41:09

to do now that we've achieved

41:12

what we have.

41:14

Is to help others, as I did to cleansing. How

41:17

so, I'm not.

41:18

Sure we keep saying underprivileged

41:21

youth.

41:21

And it was a business leadership conference,

41:23

so you don't even know who you were healthy.

41:25

Uh, it's so many different things. I'm

41:27

helping so many people.

41:29

My elderly neighbor,

41:31

Sharon, she

41:34

has a leak in her roof, and I helped

41:36

clean her car the other day.

41:37

Do you hear me talking about that? Yes, because

41:39

you just prompted me. You're challenging my

41:42

bonafides. Wait a minute, as a good human.

41:44

Yes, a leak in her roof, and then you

41:47

watched her car cut like her roof, car roof

41:50

in her car.

41:50

Okay, it's

41:53

one thing was happening, and you helped. Sharon. We

41:55

got to you got a garage here. Let

41:58

me help you empty the garage and get the car.

42:00

Yeah, into

42:02

the garage, so this doesn't happen again.

42:04

She says, Oh, no, it's fine.

42:06

She After the car is cleaned, she

42:09

covers it with a plastic sheet in the driveway

42:12

and then we get destroyed Los Angeles morning

42:14

by mon sooner and I'm.

42:15

Like, ah, share it.

42:19

I'm upset about that. It's part

42:21

of my Saturday are anyway? Greg,

42:24

That's an example, a strong

42:26

one. I want us to uplift now that we've become

42:28

with I.

42:29

Like it, and I think I know what it is.

42:31

You can confirm to me later. But let's let's do this

42:33

mailbag. All right, let's do the mail

42:37

What did you slacked you? It's

42:39

just we are we

42:41

are on air right now.

42:43

Yes, you're actually see

42:45

It's a great idea, is it?

42:46

It's pretty good?

42:49

All right, let's open up the mailbag. First

42:51

question, don't say you know what? All

42:55

right?

42:55

Uh?

42:56

Grass Operating fours? Is Dan ready

42:58

for Year two of Aaron Rodgers?

43:00

I am?

43:01

I am like when

43:03

you watch a horror movie and

43:05

if it's well done in the

43:07

first actor, getting to know the protagonists

43:09

that are many times doomed in some way

43:11

or another, and it's a well

43:13

written type horror film where you

43:15

start to really feel

43:19

and connect with those characters like

43:21

insert jets fans. I feel

43:24

terrible about Year or two of Aaron

43:26

Rodgers and everything around it, and that athletic

43:29

deep dive by Zach Rosenblatt,

43:31

and I think Diana Rassini. Yeah, Bob as

43:34

well, Like it

43:36

was interesting hearing the paranoia that'scripped

43:39

poor Bob Sala and hearing

43:41

how Zach Wilson his feelings

43:43

on Aaron Rodgers have changed now

43:45

because Rogers really didn't even connect with him

43:48

after the injury. None of this is surprising

43:50

necessarily, Oh wow, it was all phony, Yeah,

43:53

exactly, and surprise

43:56

surprise Hackett wasn't

43:59

according to someone and even putting in the

44:01

work in terms of scheming,

44:04

and all those people are coming

44:06

back except for Wilson. So I

44:10

am I really to expect this

44:12

now to be all right because the forty year old

44:14

quarterback is back from his Achilles

44:16

tear. No, I feel

44:19

this everybody, and I get

44:21

it. I'm I'm jealous because

44:23

I know it's good sport to laugh at

44:26

the misfortunes of the Jets. They're funny. Get

44:28

out your popcorn. It's going to be a great year

44:31

in twenty twenty four. That's where I'm at right now.

44:33

It's it's tough when you know, I feel

44:35

for Jets fans for you, but

44:37

like there's it's

44:39

were months and months away from like the business

44:42

of the season and the Jets, you know, becoming

44:44

better in certain ways, like they're already exhausting.

44:48

That's not a good that's it's not like it's I

44:50

don't want to blame the players working hard on on that

44:52

team and the coaches apparently some of them are, but like

44:54

they're already an exhausting topic, not only

44:57

the Cowboys.

44:57

To me, right, it's less about exhausting

44:59

and if anything, the fact I think everyone's

45:02

gonna be sowed down on the Jets.

45:03

Maybe that's maybe that's the one time.

45:05

We don't have to worry about the hype machine, right they could actually

45:08

maybe that's good. But

45:10

Rogers, it's just

45:12

funny how much

45:15

he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. I think during

45:17

that hard knocks and stuff and like that Wilson's

45:19

story and we've just seen so many of them,

45:22

I think just makes it very easy

45:24

for me to root against that guy.

45:26

That's all.

45:26

And like I heard Larry David on the

45:29

Bill Simmons podcast, he refused to even talk

45:31

about the Jets and Rogers because he just didn't

45:33

want to say anything negative about Rodgers.

45:35

And that's all. He would have to say about Rogers.

45:37

He just like didn't doesn't like the experience,

45:39

you could tell, but he just like doesn't want it to be aggregated

45:41

or even mention it because he's a Jets fan, but he

45:43

just doesn't. He can't even be honest about it because

45:45

it's just like I can't. I can't deal with it.

45:47

Because he then goes on Lacavie and

45:49

then gets asked about it and all that stuff.

45:51

It's it's not good.

45:53

It's not good, and it's quite frankly super

45:56

depressing because after this happens,

45:59

if it goes the way feels like it's going, then

46:01

they're starting over again, all

46:04

right? Next JM

46:08

nineteen eighty two. If you could go back in

46:10

time and cover Slash be a beat writer

46:13

for any NFL team you

46:15

do not support for one season?

46:18

Which team season? Would it be?

46:21

All right? I

46:23

like this question.

46:24

I came up with my own like list,

46:26

and it was kind of like it's

46:28

obvious ones because it's when I became a football

46:31

fan. But we grew up on the East Coast and my

46:33

earliest some of my earliest memories are watching

46:35

Loe's old like Bill Parcells Giants teams

46:38

with my dad, and you know, in eighty five

46:41

they you could see the team forming, and the Bears

46:43

went and won the Super Bowl that year, and the Giants

46:45

got taken out in the playoffs. But the eighty six Giants

46:47

is the team that I pick because not

46:50

unlike when the Steelers became a

46:52

powerhouse after decades of darkness,

46:56

and not unlike when any team suddenly

46:58

like the Lions, finds light, that

47:00

Giants team was one of the most celebrated.

47:03

And know it's the same year the Mets won the World Series, so like

47:05

New York, the New York tabloids were going crazy.

47:09

I would love to have been

47:11

there to cover that from wire to wire

47:13

because there was you got lt

47:15

in there, you got Bill Parcells. Bill Parcells

47:18

and Phil Simms didn't get along half the time. You

47:20

had Phil McConkie. There were a lot of strange players

47:23

that created this Super Bowl winning

47:25

team that were trailing at halftime to the Broncos,

47:28

then exploded and Phil Simms

47:30

had the game of his life in sun splashed

47:32

California. It was absolutely like the

47:34

crowning achievement of a team that you know, they went

47:36

and won in ninety but that was a bit of a different team,

47:38

like it turned Bill Parcells

47:41

who was carried off the field. That was like your first gatorade

47:43

dunk and everything too. So I think that

47:45

was a very special time for the NFL,

47:48

but for New York and the team, it was like back then there

47:50

was no you only could watch one team Jets

47:52

and Giants, basically those two teams.

47:54

That was it on my television.

47:56

The first one that.

47:57

Came to mind for me was the Buddy

47:59

Air Buddy Ryan era Eagles.

48:01

I don't know why. I was always in fascinated.

48:03

I was thinking of the Buddy Bear.

48:05

That would be fun too. Uh.

48:08

There's a great book, maybe maybe

48:10

the best like season in the life book I've

48:12

ever read. It was by Mark Bowden, who

48:14

who also ended up writing you know, books that turned

48:16

into major movies. But it

48:19

was called Bringing the Heat, and it was about it was about the Eagles,

48:22

and uh, that team

48:24

with Randall Cunningham and Buddy Ryan. Wade Phillips

48:26

was in the mix at some point, like in Reggie White

48:29

and Jerome Brown who was this crazy character,

48:31

and Clyde Simmons and the drama with Ryan

48:33

and his coaching staffs and the way

48:36

the way they interacted with the media back

48:38

then, and it just was like, oh, just feels

48:40

like the most wild East Coast time

48:43

possible and extremely exciting team

48:45

that also was full of drama and

48:47

personality from like start to

48:50

finish, and they were like an open book. It seemed

48:52

like a very fun team to cover

48:54

in an insanely competitive like media

48:56

corps.

48:57

Just that that to me, it would be a fun er.

48:59

To Buddy or ryans a great one because you

49:01

could like point to multiple teams

49:03

you could talk that would be a fun team. The

49:06

one where he punched Kevin Gilbride, that Oilers

49:08

team West, Yes,

49:11

the the eighty five Bears.

49:13

Of course, he gets carried off

49:15

the field after that game. And guess

49:17

you know, we we showed Joe. He said

49:20

at the top of the world.

49:22

What was what was the question? King

49:25

of the Hill, King of the Hill, King of the Hill. Guess

49:28

who the d C of that Jets team was? Buddy

49:31

Ryan? Wow, So he had quite

49:33

a football life. And then Rex and Rob

49:35

followed.

49:36

Of course, I would say, give

49:40

me the mid nineties Cowboys.

49:42

That would be a lot of a.

49:44

Young Jerah, you know,

49:46

King of the Hill, Jarrah, Jimmy

49:49

Johnson, not the Switzer team, the Jimmy

49:51

Johnson, team Aikman, Irvin Emmett

49:53

set against the backdrop of the best well

49:58

done set against the back but the best rivalry

50:01

of the nineties, which was Cowboys Niners,

50:03

which was the only one that really to me approaches

50:05

that would be Cults

50:10

Patriots in the oughts. But

50:12

I would say that when I think about those

50:14

NFC title games in the

50:16

early nineties, they were.

50:18

The the big game.

50:20

Like it was just it was whoever won

50:22

that game was going to hoist the Lombardi,

50:25

So.

50:27

That would be my pick.

50:28

They also had like Cowboys brettvav

50:30

Packers too. There was a lot going on in the NFC.

50:32

But I think the greatest and weirdest

50:35

and most bizarre ending to a

50:37

lot of that was that Barry Switzer comes

50:39

in and replaces Jimmy Johnson, and it's

50:41

like, you know, Barry Switzer

50:43

during the Pro Bowl, they showed him because they

50:46

lost the NFC title game, like when you're in like

50:48

he's sitting there eating a hot dog during and that

50:50

today, no, you, no one cares about the probole. But it was kind

50:52

of like this guy is a whack job. And like the reporting

50:54

coming out of Dallas was like you know, Troy Aikman

50:57

was beside himself, like post Jimmy Johnson

50:59

was about his chaotic as it.

51:02

Yeah, Barry shout out to the I

51:04

thought you were gonna slip up there by the way, what.

51:07

You mentioned Pro Bowl then you're talking the aby. I

51:09

was out of my I wasn't.

51:10

I was out of my head too, I wasn't even thinking about

51:12

that what the episode's about at this point.

51:14

The seventies, like the seventies

51:17

Raiders or the seventies Steelers, to me

51:19

would be very fun because that, to

51:21

me is sort of the birth of what we think of as

51:23

the NFL in general. But it also

51:26

you know, reading the books from back then, it's like it

51:28

was so much looser the relationship

51:31

between the media and the team

51:33

and the fans. It was all like the business

51:35

of it all was all turned down to such a

51:37

degree that you really

51:39

got to know these guys.

51:40

It was characters, like it was.

51:41

They were all kind of in it together, and they were

51:43

just insane characters

51:46

in a way that that those teams seemed like they would be a

51:48

lot of fun to do.

51:48

All right, next one, I think

51:51

West would have thrown out all

51:53

right here, Sam asks Sam The Hobbit

51:56

Underscore ninety eight. Everyone, what were

51:58

some of your favorite non football related

52:00

pieces of entertainment, books, movies,

52:02

tv concerts this

52:05

past year? Okay, with

52:07

a couple of things. Anybody want to start.

52:11

I'll start with a couple of books that are right off the

52:13

top of my dome. A

52:15

is my favorite, Beasting by Paul Murray, who

52:17

is an Irish writer. Like a family saga there. That's

52:19

one of the best books I've read in like the

52:21

last twenty years. It is incredibly written.

52:23

It's it's a it's a bit of a door stop, but it's

52:26

it's still it's like six hundred pages, and yet it

52:29

is incredible how talented he is. And then Changang

52:31

All Stars I think would be a crowd pleaser

52:33

too, which is a lot of fun by Nana Quame

52:35

adij Brenna, which is h Whoa's

52:39

little a little science fiction d futuristic

52:42

where people in prison

52:44

essentially choose to fight

52:46

in these like death to the death

52:49

matchups. And yet it's like very literary

52:51

and very very well done. The movie

52:53

I like liked all the Oscar movies this year.

52:55

I feel like none of them were bad,

52:58

almost like like I like told overs that, like May

53:00

December, I liked so many of them, but my

53:02

two favorites are probably American Fiction is

53:04

just like the most purely entertaining

53:06

and funny and just like the easiest watch. Like

53:09

American Fiction is really good with Jeffrey

53:11

Wright. And Killers of the Flower

53:13

Moon is probably just the best best movie.

53:16

See.

53:16

Yeah, I enjoyed that one a lot. I liked

53:18

May December.

53:20

That was great.

53:21

I liked Barbie.

53:22

I like Barbiere.

53:23

The new True.

53:24

Detective so far has been that excellent.

53:28

I this I'm not saying

53:30

this was a great movie, but I thought Air with Matt

53:32

Damon and Jason Bateman was fun, very

53:34

nostalgic, and it kind of they did a good job

53:36

with it.

53:37

It was I did love affleckas Phil Knight.

53:40

I didn't like that well, it just for me. I

53:42

sat and watched it.

53:42

It was like totally and it was kind of cool to see Damon

53:45

and Affleck back together. I

53:47

watched Maestro and hated it

53:49

and yet couldn't stop thinking about it and then kind

53:51

of liked it, and I was like whatever, I

53:53

just couldn't stop thinking about it for some reason, like it's

53:55

good performances, but I was just like I don't know something

53:57

about it is getting under my skin. Jason

54:01

Zumwald and I have been talking about

54:03

a film that has been essentially like re released

54:05

on Criterion with Vanessa

54:08

Redgrave and Oliver Reed, directed by

54:10

Ken Russell, called The Devils, and it

54:12

is. And I took my child

54:14

to The Exorcist a couple of weeks ago, and I would say

54:17

that is one of the weirder cinema experiences to

54:19

take a child too.

54:19

But The Devil, his social

54:21

services like what is loved

54:24

it.

54:24

He loved it. He loved it.

54:25

I don't know in transit, but he loved it. He

54:27

wants he wanted to see something scary. But The

54:29

Devils, which is not a horror film. It is

54:32

it is and it isn't. And it's also comedic

54:35

and strange and dark. And it was made a long time ago.

54:37

If you have access to this, I don't

54:40

would not say it's a gather the family around the

54:42

hearth film on any level. There's like it's

54:44

was banned in many many countries when

54:46

it was released, but it is incredible.

54:49

It is he was like the mother

54:51

of its day.

54:52

It has mother vibes to it a little

54:54

bit. It truly does. It truly does. But

54:56

it's it's it's it also feels like something

54:59

shotgun from four five years.

55:00

Ago, and it's pretty great. When was

55:02

it released I think the late

55:05

sixth I.

55:05

Will check that interesting. I

55:08

am currently finishing

55:10

the Uh.

55:11

It's really sad and harrowing

55:14

in different places, and especially

55:17

after he passed away. But the Matthew

55:20

Perry memoir about his life

55:23

is really fascinating and

55:25

against set because he died obviously

55:27

shortly after the book came out, and so much of it

55:29

is about his battle with alcoholism and

55:32

various drug addiction.

55:35

It's really crazy to get

55:37

inside that world, especially when you're one of

55:39

the most famous people in the world. I

55:42

just watched that what is the name of it? It's

55:44

the documentary on Netflix that just came

55:46

out on We Are the World.

55:49

Oh, we were talking about that last night. I want

55:51

to see that.

55:52

It's called the Greatest Night

55:54

in Pop, which is a great

55:56

great look at the recording of We

55:59

Are the World, the USA

56:01

for Africa song to raise

56:03

aid for you know, there was a major

56:06

catastrophe of starvation, millions

56:10

dying and Ethiopia and

56:12

they came together. Michael Jackson

56:14

then Lionel Richie wrote a

56:16

song with you

56:19

Know I'm just a couple of days notice, and then

56:21

they got every big star

56:23

in American

56:26

pop culture and music at the time

56:29

to record the song in one night and

56:31

shoot the video. It was the night of the American

56:33

Music Awards, in which Lionel Richie

56:36

hosted and won, like swept all the

56:38

awards, and then he was leading the

56:40

recording session with Quincy Jones and

56:43

Quincy Jones has a big sign above

56:45

the door, the biggest stars in the world,

56:48

check your ego at the door, and everyone

56:50

did except for Prince. Check

56:53

out that documentary. Also,

56:56

I It's true, Detective.

56:59

I'm really enjoy Yeah, returned

57:01

to form Jody Foster.

57:04

Henry. Speaking of Henry, turned me on to this.

57:06

I've been a little bit of a slump looking

57:08

for a new music that I enjoy. But a

57:10

band called The Smile, which

57:13

is comprised of Tom York from Radiohead,

57:16

also Johnny Greenwood the

57:19

guitarist, and a different drummer.

57:21

So it's not Radiohead, but it kind of if you like in

57:24

Rainbows Radiohead, which is my favorite Radiohead.

57:26

The Smile scratches that itch that just came out,

57:29

and then a concert, and I'm gonna be able to get to see

57:31

it in Vegas again as a.

57:32

Long time You Two fan. You Two

57:34

at the Sphere.

57:34

I went there with my wife in November and that was an

57:37

unbelievable experience, not just because

57:39

I love their music, but the spectacle of

57:41

it was very cool.

57:42

I highly recommend it if you can make it all

57:46

right good.

57:47

Next, let's

57:51

see Fenshield asks, I've long

57:53

wondered what team Mark supported during the three

57:55

years of Brown ceased to exist. I wonder that

57:58

did he consider the Ravens please

58:00

come on fine shield as.

58:02

Hold out hope for their return or move to

58:04

the wilderness. This is Mark.

58:05

I've known you for many years now, fourteen

58:08

years. I don't know if I've ever talked

58:11

about this with you.

58:12

I have a.

58:13

Definitive answer for this. Well, uh,

58:16

it makes me think of Wes because I was obviously

58:18

I was ho There was news right away that Cleveland

58:21

was going to fight to get a team back, but you knew it was

58:23

gonna take well, so that's a

58:25

storyline. So I didn't pick a new favorite team,

58:28

but I was agnostic. I lived in Boulder at the

58:30

time. There was this incredible sports

58:32

bar that I'd go to with friends and watch like

58:35

everything. But it was the Brett Favre Packers

58:38

from essentially ninety six, ninety

58:40

seven, ninety eight that we.

58:41

Got a title out of it.

58:43

Hey, yeah, like but yeah, you got complaint,

58:45

your you got your I guess I kind of did.

58:46

I should have stopped complaining at that point. They're right,

58:49

but that was that. It was just like every Sunday

58:51

Brett Farr was like Brett far being about as hard

58:53

as you could as you could possibly want.

58:56

Yeah, that was the good old days of Brett.

58:59

Well right, right, three straight MVPs.

59:02

I have this article that goes up every year which is

59:04

the best Quarterbacks of all time. They call it the best Super

59:06

Bowl Quarterbacks of all time, but anyone you have to have started

59:08

a Super Bowl to qualify.

59:10

Oh

59:12

that's double, that's twenty

59:14

dollars.

59:15

Hit you go.

59:17

It started as five, I thought before the

59:19

show.

59:19

No, no, he doubled it.

59:21

Yeah, it's such a good cause

59:23

that I kind of want to just keep saying

59:25

it and.

59:26

I keep it organic. And you don't know where.

59:29

You don't know where to put mahomes on this

59:31

list.

59:31

I guess so many jobs he actually has at least

59:34

fourteen million in the bank currently, so yeah,

59:36

you'll be good.

59:37

I have one other job, Mahomes.

59:42

Mahomes, Like I had to decide like where

59:44

to put Mahomes or Brett Favre on this list

59:46

because like, of course Mahomes is going to end up

59:49

near the top. But the idea is just it's just accomplishments

59:51

what you've done so far. And

59:53

it's like, man, Brett Farv won

59:56

three straight MVPs for that. He

59:58

had a shorter window than most, but for

1:00:00

that window, it's right there with

1:00:03

any quarterback that's ever played, maybe better

1:00:05

than any quarterback that's ever played.

1:00:06

That dude.

1:00:07

And I and I'll say, and everything that

1:00:09

happened in recent years is terrible

1:00:11

around far but one

1:00:14

of the great performances I've ever seen.

1:00:16

And this this comes after he had a one

1:00:18

year stopover with with

1:00:21

my team, but when he went to the Vikings

1:00:23

and had that huge season, he was there two years,

1:00:25

but the first year was awesome. Uh And

1:00:29

and Greg Williams

1:00:32

and Sean Payton essentially put

1:00:34

out a hit on Brett Favre

1:00:36

in the two thousand and nine NFC title

1:00:38

game and he took as

1:00:40

vicious a beating as you will ever see

1:00:42

a quarterback take in that game, and

1:00:45

that some of them got up

1:00:47

every time they tried. They

1:00:49

were literally trying to injure

1:00:52

him. There was money, you

1:00:54

know, bounty. There was a bounty on basically

1:00:57

killing Brett Favre, and Brett Farv knew it. Everybody

1:01:00

knew it, and he kept fighting through

1:01:02

it. Now Vikings fan than anybody else remembers

1:01:04

the game, whils to say, well, he also through the interception to blow

1:01:06

the game. I get that, but there

1:01:09

were a lot of elements in that game. One

1:01:11

of the more sneaky, painful losses in

1:01:13

the history.

1:01:13

Of Minnesota that game.

1:01:14

They outplayed the game.

1:01:16

But but I always had so much respect

1:01:18

for far the way he played that game.

1:01:20

And like you know, the photos and images

1:01:22

were released after what Farv's lower

1:01:24

body looked like after taking

1:01:26

those hits. I mean it was like beyond

1:01:29

medical science. And you're right, he like he during

1:01:31

the game never even.

1:01:32

Showed wait did you any And it also

1:01:34

gave Jordan Love like an inspiration of how

1:01:36

to end this Packer season. He's like, I'm gonna

1:01:38

be exactly like Brett Favin, throw

1:01:41

that exact same path.

1:01:42

Same throw. So when the Browns

1:01:44

come back.

1:01:45

Yeah, and they stink because they're an expansion

1:01:47

franchise. Was

1:01:50

it hard to let go of the Packers? Now it helped? I guess the

1:01:52

Packers are then starting to come down a little bit. Right

1:01:54

When the Browns came, I I will.

1:01:56

Never forget like the night

1:01:58

that they were relaunch on Sunday

1:02:00

Night football in Week one against the Cordell

1:02:02

Stewart Bill Cower led Steelers.

1:02:05

I went to that same Boulder bar

1:02:08

with an empty notebook that

1:02:10

was gonna be my Brown's notebook, like for

1:02:13

the year, and I was gonna write dense notes. And

1:02:15

I'd had a feeling that they were going to be at

1:02:17

least interesting and special. And by the end of the first

1:02:19

quarter they were down like twenty one

1:02:21

and nothing, and I was like, this

1:02:24

notebook can go into the circular file. It was nothing

1:02:26

to write or see about. It was a disaster, but there

1:02:28

was no conflict. I was all the way in

1:02:30

and like, you know, they never really got

1:02:32

a whole lot better from that, but they made the playoffs in

1:02:34

two thousand and two five David, like.

1:02:35

When you're born in seven.

1:02:37

Those first two years back was rough.

1:02:39

Tim Couch.

1:02:42

Chris Palmer was coach, back

1:02:45

then like an offensive guru who like

1:02:47

you know, had been with a bunch of teams and was

1:02:49

they that I will not go on about it,

1:02:51

but the difference between like the Jaguars and

1:02:53

Panthers and you know, expansion

1:02:56

teams that were given like a two year lead up

1:02:58

and given a proper time I'm to hire,

1:03:01

and they were given you know, draft privilege.

1:03:03

The Browns got really hosed, and it

1:03:05

was a truncated process that I think

1:03:07

helped those other teams in general to do

1:03:10

a better job in any expansion team since Cleveland

1:03:12

got really hosed in every possible way.

1:03:14

His defensive coordinator was

1:03:16

Bob Slowick. You know this league,

1:03:18

hey man, you go different, different way.

1:03:20

It's a family. Romeo Carnal then took over

1:03:23

for him next year.

1:03:25

Pop quiz Mark, who was the leading rusher

1:03:27

of the nineteen ninety nine expansion

1:03:30

Browns.

1:03:32

Oh, it's gonna kill me when I hear the name, because I used to talk

1:03:34

about him all the time. But he was pulled from

1:03:36

their little strange expansion draft.

1:03:38

Uh.

1:03:39

Te Terry

1:03:42

Kirby.

1:03:42

Terry Kirby, all right, next you

1:03:44

have filed, sir, But that's.

1:03:46

A tough one.

1:03:46

It's not like, no, no, no, but that's you know, it

1:03:48

wasn't Jim Brown all right?

1:03:50

Wait was not waffle house?

1:03:51

Hamlin asks when will the pain from the

1:03:53

Ravens losing stop? Now,

1:03:56

Well, that's interesting coming off the heels of the Browns conversation.

1:03:59

I will'll say this, it's an underrated

1:04:02

fan pain.

1:04:04

I've experienced it three times personally to

1:04:08

lose in on Championship Sunday.

1:04:10

Because if you if you lose AFC

1:04:13

or NFC Championship, you obviously

1:04:15

it's one that you lose in the Super Bowl. Oh

1:04:20

give it to me. It's for a good cause. And

1:04:22

you'll soon find out it's one

1:04:25

thing to lose. But then at least you

1:04:27

get there if you if you fall short, you

1:04:29

get title game. Yeah, you get the

1:04:31

two weeks of the hype and the excitement around that.

1:04:35

Nobody remembers how deep most teams

1:04:37

went in their conference playoffs,

1:04:39

and it's just like so empty when you're

1:04:42

that close to making the big game and

1:04:44

then you don't.

1:04:45

I think also that game, particularly

1:04:47

like coming out of it, it's like, wait, why didn't Lamar

1:04:49

Jackson? Why did they just unleash him in full

1:04:52

fury and unlead? It's a bit of a what if game

1:04:54

where it's like, this isn't the Ravens team

1:04:56

that we saw, especially.

1:04:57

When you say Odell.

1:04:58

They had some good NFL films

1:05:00

of him sitting next to Lamar

1:05:03

as the game started to spin out, and

1:05:05

he's basically telling Lamar you can you

1:05:07

could change the game, like when you run

1:05:10

like that flips the script and

1:05:12

and everyone watching.

1:05:13

The game was saying the same thing.

1:05:14

How many times was he just living in that pocket

1:05:16

instead of making plays with his legs and changing

1:05:19

the feel and dynamic of that game.

1:05:20

Yes, the answer is like week one

1:05:23

ish.

1:05:24

I mean, it's never gonna leave you until

1:05:26

unless they make him win the Super

1:05:28

Bowl, but especially the next couple

1:05:30

of weeks are.

1:05:32

Oh, you

1:05:35

are spinning out.

1:05:36

I remember once.

1:05:37

I remember when we first did these, I focused

1:05:39

on it and it hasn't even crossed my mind to not

1:05:41

say it.

1:05:42

I was like, how did I get out of the eighty six Giants

1:05:44

conversation?

1:05:45

Scott, That's a.

1:05:46

Good job, I think, though it gets more painful

1:05:49

the further you go. Like if you lose

1:05:51

where the Ravens lost, Uh,

1:05:54

that stinks for the next couple of weeks, and you always

1:05:56

believe that you should have been there, and it's gonna stink all off

1:05:58

season, all the coverage of it if

1:06:00

the Chiefs win. But it's even worse if you

1:06:02

lose the next one, like it keeps getting worse.

1:06:06

I've said this reason what

1:06:09

happened there, Chiefs?

1:06:13

Well you can't. Oh, you can't say chief.

1:06:15

It's like fifty bucks

1:06:17

right now. Fifty

1:06:20

that's not a that's

1:06:22

that's a little bit of scratch.

1:06:25

Anyway, if our

1:06:27

teams ever get to the big game, we

1:06:29

gotta win. It cannot

1:06:31

get there, they cannot cannot

1:06:33

no one. All right, let's check a couple

1:06:35

more Gussie

1:06:39

Maine asks, seeing as

1:06:42

how the Vikings will probably never

1:06:44

be the team of ATM again, well you

1:06:46

never know.

1:06:47

Third time could be the Tiant.

1:06:48

Are there any other teams that can't

1:06:51

ever be team of ATM?

1:06:52

That's a good one.

1:06:53

Let's see ever, I

1:06:56

would say, see Washington

1:06:58

would have been my answer until the owner change, but

1:07:00

now I'm open minded.

1:07:01

New England would have been mine. But there they can't

1:07:03

world know, Yeah, the.

1:07:04

Jets can't, Like we can't have more

1:07:06

Jets talking this, I understand. And

1:07:09

that's just my Patriots fandom too.

1:07:13

Obviously, the Ravens can't because of Mark. I

1:07:15

would say probably

1:07:17

the AFC North. Well, the Bengals

1:07:20

I think are up for.

1:07:21

The Bengals kind of secretly spiritually

1:07:24

were for one season there um.

1:07:26

Other than that, Yeah, when you say ever, like

1:07:28

it's really hard to imagine the forty nine

1:07:31

ers in this current iteration, give me

1:07:33

ten more dollars there.

1:07:34

Oh well, or the team

1:07:36

they're about to play.

1:07:38

But you never know, and like if if this show is lucky

1:07:41

enough to still be doing it, and.

1:07:43

I guess if you like, maybe if you look it like

1:07:45

change where we are today.

1:07:46

There's a handful of teams that I would never see that's

1:07:48

it. Certainly the team that plays at Arrowhead.

1:07:52

Yeah, they are never going to be the team of atn

1:07:54

and there's got to be a certain plucking spirit

1:07:56

to them though the true.

1:07:57

Giants don't possess.

1:08:00

All right, what's ex.

1:08:03

Dennis Kelly asks what team would you most

1:08:05

like to be a fan of in the next three to five years

1:08:08

with an exciting future? And what

1:08:10

team could you not be paid

1:08:12

to be a fan of in the upcoming years?

1:08:15

All right, easy for me on the first

1:08:17

part.

1:08:18

Texans.

1:08:18

I actually love that they found a way to

1:08:20

keep Bobby slowick around. I'm sure money

1:08:23

was involved there and who knows what else.

1:08:25

But we didn't get a job offer.

1:08:27

I think that's the number one.

1:08:28

Thing, well in general, one

1:08:31

the insiders on where they always make a big deal

1:08:33

of, like he's coming back.

1:08:35

You didn't get a job.

1:08:36

Well, just the faith that he didn't, Yes, Like just

1:08:38

the fact that, like if you're the defensive coach, like

1:08:40

you keep the guy that's running your offense them

1:08:42

for obvious reasons. Couldn't root for

1:08:46

I don't know, a bunch of teams annoying me. That's I'd have to

1:08:48

think about that one.

1:08:51

Well, you you mentioned one in the previous

1:08:53

show, which I that you couldn't root for

1:08:55

the Chargers, which I think would be close to my list

1:08:58

of the fun one.

1:09:00

Yeah, because it.

1:09:02

Just be in St.

1:09:02

Texans popped into my mind first

1:09:05

too for a

1:09:07

fun team, but I think the Chargers. Chargers might

1:09:09

be fun because.

1:09:09

I was I was just saying the Chargers

1:09:12

organization can't go create.

1:09:14

I think it'd be fun to be a fan of.

1:09:16

Okay, the you know what strikes me right

1:09:18

now is the Saints. Now,

1:09:21

they could all this could get fleshed

1:09:23

out, but there's such on the negative. On the negative

1:09:25

side, there's something about this group

1:09:28

running this team in this current ineration.

1:09:30

That's the I would not want to become a fan of this team.

1:09:32

I couldn't do Cowboys two more.

1:09:39

Stephen Lee, we need

1:09:42

to bring back hashtag Greg likes

1:09:44

rap.

1:09:44

He does, I mean, but I like other

1:09:47

music just as.

1:09:49

Well hashtag Greg likes

1:09:51

rat. You're our

1:09:53

rap officionado of the podcast. With

1:09:55

that being said, as a former New Orleans

1:09:57

inhabitant, that's interesting when I'm putting it cash

1:10:00

Money Millionaires or No Limit Soldiers,

1:10:02

that's a big one.

1:10:03

I could be speaking out of turn here,

1:10:05

but I feel like this sort of question

1:10:08

would only come from a non New

1:10:10

orleneas like, Okay,

1:10:13

it's not much of a competation. What No

1:10:15

Limit accomplished was was great.

1:10:17

You know, they made the most with with what they have,

1:10:19

but cash Money Millionaires. When

1:10:21

I was there, which was when both these

1:10:25

crews were coming in nineties early too, they were

1:10:27

like the Beatles in Liverpool, I mean, and they're

1:10:29

just far more talented, juvenile

1:10:31

and the Beatles No then

1:10:34

the then the No Limit Soldiers.

1:10:36

I mean, No Limit was fun, but come on, I gotta support

1:10:39

master P. I always do I'm very

1:10:41

anti Big Sean very I.

1:10:43

Mean he was he was fun too, but I mean, how many

1:10:47

how many bangers did did

1:10:49

No Limit really.

1:10:50

Have No Limit?

1:10:52

Remember the all the

1:10:54

album covers, they all had the same general.

1:10:57

They got it done, they got well.

1:11:00

The aesthetic it was a very garish

1:11:02

like bright colors. It was kind of was

1:11:04

it kind of animated and then like kind

1:11:07

of blowing out.

1:11:07

Great, they're kind of coming back. People now are

1:11:09

like copying them. I

1:11:12

love master p his commercial

1:11:14

where he was selling like his own phone,

1:11:17

the No Limit phone that you could buy that just

1:11:20

ran NonStop in New Orleans is seared into

1:11:22

my brain.

1:11:23

Yes, all right, one more last question, good

1:11:26

one, Greg see people

1:11:28

wanted to hear it'd been too long. Chris

1:11:31

at TN oilers ask where does Kirk land

1:11:33

a little lookhead

1:11:35

of? And we could talk kind of a landscape

1:11:37

of some quarterbacks in general

1:11:40

as we look ahead to the off season. I thought

1:11:43

we were a little bit and we talked

1:11:46

about some buyer b aware with Cousins

1:11:48

on Wednesday, but a

1:11:50

little circaissance, not just in

1:11:53

how the public views him, but the Vikings.

1:11:55

I felt like they were falling in love with Kirk again.

1:11:57

Last year and then to see what happened when

1:12:00

betrayed both us

1:12:03

and the Vikings with his play, and then

1:12:05

everything had happened.

1:12:06

It's not like any of his successors fared

1:12:08

any better.

1:12:08

But yes, but I kind

1:12:11

of would say that the odds on favorite

1:12:13

would be him staying in Minnesota.

1:12:15

But I mean to

1:12:17

your argument from the other show is they

1:12:19

also would have concerns I think fairly

1:12:21

about what physical

1:12:24

shape he is in post Achilles.

1:12:26

Like that was Greg's argument.

1:12:28

Well, it's also like, is this the time

1:12:30

for them as an organization to reset? I

1:12:34

think you're right Dan that they are the most likely

1:12:37

destination. But for the

1:12:39

sake of this conversation, I think it's

1:12:41

fun to consider the Denver Broncos as an

1:12:43

underrated team. I think he would fit well with

1:12:45

pay and I think they're very much in

1:12:47

win now mode and they

1:12:49

have no quarterback. I don't think Russell

1:12:51

Wilson is going to be an option there and

1:12:54

a real wildcard here. Offensive

1:12:56

staff is changing, but just throwing it out there, a

1:12:59

ton of cap space, veteran team, the Tampa

1:13:01

Bay Buccaneers, just I don't.

1:13:03

I was trying to think of like where he would be I

1:13:05

liked I like that.

1:13:06

I think Denver actually strikes

1:13:09

me as the team that would pay the money for him.

1:13:10

Maybe I wish he

1:13:13

would go to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1:13:16

That'd be fun, he.

1:13:17

Uh, I like him just walking in there and saying,

1:13:20

Kenny Pickett, give me number eight and get

1:13:22

the hell.

1:13:22

Out of here, Rue, You're gone.

1:13:25

He'd weirdly fit the Steelers, but I wouldn't get

1:13:29

in a Pittsburgh uniform. That just and

1:13:31

that team. Yeah, listen,

1:13:34

careful what you wish for. You give them a proficient

1:13:37

quarterback with the skill players there,

1:13:39

with that defense, the Steelers

1:13:41

could be, you know, back in.

1:13:42

The AFC Championship game themselves very quickly.

1:13:44

All right? Uh? Is that it? Yeah?

1:13:46

That's any other quarterbacks to throw out there?

1:13:48

Just by the way, while we're here, who

1:13:50

else is?

1:13:51

So? The banker is obviously a

1:13:53

figure of interest.

1:13:54

Russell Wilson, rob

1:13:57

justin Field. See Russell Wilson to me, seems

1:13:59

like a dealer.

1:14:01

The Falcons, I think, will be looking for one,

1:14:03

and Cousins could fit that offense quite

1:14:05

well too.

1:14:07

I am very suspicious. I'm very

1:14:09

suspicious of a team

1:14:11

signing up for Russell Wilson

1:14:13

as their starter.

1:14:15

Yeah, that would be. I feel like that would be God.

1:14:18

Would any be excited in

1:14:21

Pittsburgh?

1:14:22

No, I don't know. I don't think he think he needs to.

1:14:25

I feel like Russ almost has to do a

1:14:27

Baker where he needs to go somewhere and win

1:14:29

a job and then kind

1:14:31

of try to rest out.

1:14:32

I think it's safe to say Jamis Winston will be looking

1:14:34

for a new job after how last season.

1:14:37

Yeah, I'm curious.

1:14:38

I am curious.

1:14:39

I know I was.

1:14:40

This wasn't an overly popular take,

1:14:42

but if he will

1:14:45

have a slightly chillier market based on how the

1:14:47

season ended.

1:14:48

His market was very chilly last year,

1:14:50

Like cow.

1:14:50

Many head coach is gonna be like, Oh that's the guy I want

1:14:52

my locker room.

1:14:53

I mean it was an upset he stayed with the Saints.

1:14:55

Yeah, this season he didn't have a ton

1:14:57

of interest, So.

1:14:58

Yeah, Raiders got

1:15:00

to find someone. Maybe

1:15:03

Justin Field's in a Raiders uniform.

1:15:05

I could see that.

1:15:06

Sure, Sure anything

1:15:08

else.

1:15:10

Good job, good job, everybody, Thank you raised

1:15:13

a lot of money.

1:15:14

What a day.

1:15:15

This is one of those days where this

1:15:17

feels like the music podcast we've

1:15:19

done, and like it's a very podcasting

1:15:22

podcast, and then we're just hearing this studio with these

1:15:24

bright lights and this is gonna air on fast and there's

1:15:26

all those people behind the class and I was like.

1:15:27

Well, wait does that really

1:15:29

work? Madison behind the glass?

1:15:32

Who else is there? Who's there?

1:15:34

Eric Roberts, Josh behind the glass,

1:15:36

Cynthia and of course Eric

1:15:39

the producer. Thank

1:15:44

you you guys all sharing this award

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equally so when you if you want to

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call up your moms and

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dads back today, we

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won.

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We shared this great

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success around the NFL.

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To everyone else who attempted to defeat us,

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whether it's the fellow nominees

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or old bosses, past

1:16:13

lovers, or the past lovers,

1:16:15

or the enemies who have yet to reveal

1:16:18

themselves. We

1:16:21

are Brett fav in the two thousand and nine NFC

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title game. But there is no interception,

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Oh just touchdowns.

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Just seeds everywhere.

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Come after us and

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heed the call.