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They around the NFL podcast.

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Has no Dead Champ money.

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From the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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It's around the NFL. I

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am Dan Hansis. I have heroes here, Greg

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Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. And

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it is the second

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day of the new league year. And

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kudos to us or

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finally cutting through all

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the red tape and like, don't tell me the

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league year starting Wednesday is this big

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important entre the whole weeks.

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It's the beginning of the week and now here later

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in the week.

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So he took Wednesday off and now we have a much

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clearer picture of everything.

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Huzza. I mean to me,

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there is no larger force farce,

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I should say, in all of pro

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sports than the NFL calendar in March.

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It's like, none of it. It's it's like, don't

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try to tell me that anything starts at a

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certain time. I won't buy it

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because we were It's day two

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of what we've been grinding since Sunday

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mid afternoon.

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If I Heeart's not going to give us any credit.

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At least Dan did right to start off the show.

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Nailed it, nailed it. We're good at that.

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This is yes, really,

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in reality, the fourth

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day of the league year.

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Don't listen to them, listen

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to us.

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And that means many

1:25

many of the big players that were

1:28

going into free agency looking

1:31

for homes or looking to stay with their team, just looking to

1:33

do business have done that business.

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In fact, GREGI of your top one

1:36

oh one, how many like.

1:38

Who's the what number is the

1:41

highest ranking player left?

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Well, Tyron Smith has like a four

1:45

next to his name, But on the original, the

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original, yeah, he would have been I

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think fourteen, And he also would have been

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the only player on the original list

1:53

of even the top twenty that's unaccounted

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for, the only one. And then yeah, so

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one O the Kendall Fuller, who I apparently valued

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a lot higher than NFL teams, actually just came off

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the board. He would have been thirteenth on the

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list that when you know,

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kind of final on Monday, as the

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as the negotiating period started,

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and he just went off the board. To the Dolphins, who have actually

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made it quietly a bunch of nice little moves.

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We're still working on our list, and I think there's yeah,

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a lot of question. No, it's no, it's it's it's

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more like you know, we've we exhibit

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patients, what the list will come when we

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feel it's time for it to show up. I mean,

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what are we doing that houses out of the

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horses side of the barn.

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It's on the highwayax Mark,

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I did not tell you that we did release

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it. Oh well, that's good, okay, but

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load to hear that it's on the internet. Okay, but

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it's we's why was I not brought

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into that process? We've been because it was top secret.

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We dropped it as an easter egg on the internet.

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It was actually if you could find

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the url right put out on the company, we

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could read it. That company was recently

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bought by European investors

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and they told everyone you know that there.

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What I do love is we published it on dead Spin and

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it was immediately around medic That's not our fault.

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I love the Greg underneath the

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layers of you know, deciding

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whether or not this was a real project. Greg is a little annoyed

3:08

that we continue to pump up a little bit our list

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just a little time. You never know.

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I love it because it's showing how tough

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it is to make that list.

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Where is your listen?

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It's always surprising what actually annoys Greg

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like talking about the pickstandings,

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or that football that the charity

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gave me football from, or for some

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reason the free agency two thirteen.

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That's just you could tell just a little bit of agitation.

3:32

Why is that? Greg? Why is it certain thing? And then

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other things.

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It's like, ah, nothing really matter.

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The only thing that's bothering me about this is that you

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actually believe what you just said.

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I do.

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I believe one hundred percent like Rogers. I believe

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everything I say and I believe it to

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be correct.

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You just don't believe anything anyone

3:50

else says, at least from like a large

3:52

sort of organizational

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or societal stand.

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I don't now, I don't know what you're talking about.

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We are going to be getting deep

4:01

into a look back and in

4:04

terms of what has happened this week, and also of

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course looking ahead to what's still to come,

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with the great Bill Barnwell, who

4:12

is a great person to talk to this.

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Time or year, really any time of year, but this time

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of year especially.

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So that's coming up a little bit later, but first, let's

4:19

get caught up on the news since we

4:21

last spoke with you. Hey, someone's going to ask you,

4:23

so have you had the little ass boy conversation with

4:25

Max.

4:26

Yeah, sure, sure, not of son. He's a big ass

4:28

boys. What he is?

4:29

You gota?

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I did not even connect the dots on that. Gardner

4:34

Menshew signs with the Las

4:36

Vegas Raiders and do

4:38

we have that original sound from inside

4:41

the NFL the for context

4:43

that Minshew in a game last

4:45

year was repeatedly belittled

4:47

by Crosby on the field for his stature, to

4:50

the point where you cut to Minshew

4:52

in the second half and he's like, I'm not that small,

4:54

maybe for according to the football

4:56

world, but.

4:59

Boy, well

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that boy, dude nice

5:05

Crosby is so that I'm angry.

5:09

Burke.

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He just like the thing is like, he's not

5:12

that.

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I know, right, he just calls he keeps

5:15

calling.

5:15

Everybody low lass boy,

5:17

little ass boy.

5:19

Right.

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I'm like, I'm a little out here, but.

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Not always, you know.

5:23

Gardner Minshew, the way he says

5:25

it, he's really got a McConaughey vibe

5:28

to him. That's I gotta say, I

5:30

I think that's kind of what you want out of your quarterback. He

5:32

could be pointing out John Candy in the in

5:34

the crowd right before he goes and has

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a game winning Super Bowl.

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Well, maybe that'll find out with any gardner Minshew,

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Joe Montana, Parafe.

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If he beats out Aiden O'Connell, maybe that'll happen.

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He's still perfect, perfect landing spot

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for Minshew. Let's see if he can squeeze

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some more starts out of this. All right, let's start

5:51

though in Tennessee, where

5:54

a surprise on Wednesday the Calvin Ridley

5:57

we had talked about in our previous show, and in

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general, all the

6:01

arrows seem to be pointing to him returning to Jacksonville

6:04

and circumventing that the trade

6:06

terms with Atlanta to

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avoid giving up a second round pick, that he

6:10

would just sign with the Jags.

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Who we spent last year with.

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On the first day of the league year, No, all that erroneous,

6:19

Ridley signs a four year, ninety two million dollar

6:21

contract with the Titans

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that includes fifty million guaranteed.

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He's now, in terms of.

6:29

Average value of salary at

6:32

that position, a top ten, which

6:34

really jumps out to me. Mark is

6:36

a little rich for my blood with Calvin Ridley,

6:39

a guy that's twenty nine years

6:41

old. He's got a suspension

6:43

on the ledger. He faded a little bit last

6:45

year, was a little hot and cold in general, and you're

6:47

paying him as a number one like

6:49

that once again, the Dalton scale of wide receivers.

6:52

That is an off season episode

6:54

that is screaming at us. Where would Ridley fall?

6:56

I think on the other side of that, So let's talk

6:59

about it, because he's not being that.

7:01

That these wide receiver deals for a number

7:03

of years in a row have been have been wild. I

7:06

I would say this though about the Titans

7:08

in general. I don't know if Calvin Ridley is

7:10

I'm with you. I think the money

7:13

is more than the man in this situation. But

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this was a team that desperately needed to read

7:18

the man well the player the player.

7:20

Okay, okay, that's I don't know. I don't

7:22

know him personally, so that that was out of

7:24

bounds by me and I.

7:26

Not since you took down the entire insider

7:28

culture have I thought that you really made

7:30

such a personal attack more on that.

7:32

That was only a couple of days ago. But now

7:34

you add Ridley to DeAndre Hopkins,

7:37

Traylon Burk's Nick Westprookakina, It's

7:39

like Will Levis is coming out of this as

7:41

somewhat of a winner because a they didn't Can you say

7:43

those again. Say those names again, Calvin Ridley,

7:46

DeAndre Hopkins, Traylon Burks,

7:48

Nick West, Prookakina. It's not that they couldn't go draft

7:50

someone else too, It's just that I'm

7:53

just saying they They were bottom

7:55

of the barrel, one of the worst wide receiver groups

7:57

in the league at times last year. And

7:59

it it's like, if Hopkins can still play, I don't

8:01

hate Ridley and Hopkins as a duo. They

8:03

added Tony Pollard with Cushion Berry.

8:06

It's like they are at least active. They

8:08

needed to do, They needed to take steps, and they're

8:10

taking steps.

8:10

It was one of the only contracts this offseason

8:12

that when they reported, I was like, wow,

8:15

I did not expect him to be that far

8:18

above the rest of the class of

8:20

receivers that even got to free agency. Markus Brown,

8:22

for instance, hasn't even signed yet though, so we'll

8:24

see what he gets, but it's not going to be anything close to this. When

8:26

it was fifty million dollars guaranteed. So you

8:29

mentioned the average contract,

8:31

I think that actually does favors to the Titans.

8:33

So unless the reporting is

8:36

extremely misleading, it's fifty million

8:38

dollars guaranteed, which I would assume

8:40

is basically over the first two years of his contract,

8:43

so that's more like twenty five.

8:44

It is actually backloaded.

8:46

I don't think he gets to that third year anyways,

8:48

And that guaranteed money would be

8:50

second among all wide receivers,

8:52

only behind Tyreek Hill.

8:54

Now the cap goes up.

8:55

Our friend Justin Graver and Titans fans

8:57

are in their feelings of people criticizing this move

8:59

immediately pointed out off

9:02

a tweet I wrote of like, well

9:04

that the percentage of the cap is a lot less,

9:07

and it's you know, it's a lot if you average

9:09

out what AJ Brown's contract actually would

9:11

have been now like that, that's a bigger percentage

9:13

of the cap from when it was signed. It's like, and all

9:15

these Titans fans who are all comparing it, and it's like,

9:18

yeah, this is gonna look like a bargain when

9:20

I signs and Higgins signs and

9:22

and all these top players, and my thing

9:24

is like, yeah, but really is not anywhere

9:26

close to the category of those players.

9:29

That that's our point. That's like, yeah,

9:31

of course AJ Brown takes.

9:32

Up a bigger percentage of the cap, although he got less

9:34

guaranteed money, which again is a little

9:37

crazy. Ridley's just like a good

9:39

player that's getting paid as

9:41

a great player, which is how teams

9:43

historically have gotten into trouble in

9:46

free agency.

9:46

And he's not.

9:47

He's not a young player anymore either. He's twenty

9:50

nine. He's a little inconsistent.

9:52

He's like an older version with

9:54

a little more, you know, background than

9:56

Christian Kirk. Like remember a few years

9:58

ago when everybody was getting nineteen millionaire at the time,

10:00

and that was that and it did so like

10:03

you can look at it that way is and

10:05

if he listened, if he has one hundred

10:07

catches next year and thirteen hundred yards

10:09

and eight touchdowns, that's fine.

10:11

But you need him to be that guy.

10:12

And he hasn't really, other than very

10:14

early in his career, been on a trajectory.

10:17

As like a star slash superstar

10:19

player. But I don't want to. I

10:21

don't want to. I don't want to. So many guess

10:24

on the surface.

10:25

So you're saying, are the Titans, at least

10:27

on paper better than they were four days

10:30

ago?

10:30

I think so? Is Will

10:32

Levis the guy?

10:33

I have some doubts about that too, But they're at least giving

10:35

him a chance and a corps around him.

10:37

And we'll see what happened.

10:38

I do wonder if they had to pay what they paid, because

10:40

along with the Jaguars, the Patriots were

10:42

talked about is looking after Ridley as well. There's

10:45

maybe some sort of a bidding war

10:47

behind the scenes where you're having to pay this money.

10:49

Now.

10:50

I don't want to get all Aaron

10:52

Rodgers here, but I do have a conspiracy on

10:54

all this go ahead that no one's

10:56

been reporting out there so or

10:58

that you heard.

10:58

From no one's reporting yousiracy theories.

11:01

No, it's just in my head.

11:02

Yes, at no point did we ever

11:04

hear the Titans were in the mix.

11:06

It was a little strange.

11:07

It was like hardcore seventeen different

11:09

inside Patriots, Patriots, Patriots, Jaguars,

11:11

Jaguars, blah blah.

11:12

He wants to see with the Jaguars.

11:14

My conspiracy theory is he

11:17

maybe had a little bit of a

11:19

wink wink not not agreement with the Jaguars

11:23

that he wasn't going to sign until after that Wednesday

11:26

to help them with the draft picks in general.

11:29

But all along the Titans had this offer

11:31

there and they were probably the favorite. And again

11:33

he's just doing the Jaguars a favor

11:36

by basically waiting till Wednesday and then

11:38

they get the better draft pick. I don't believe

11:40

that they just suddenly came into the mix

11:42

in the last second and then blew everyone.

11:45

Out of the water with a with a huge offer.

11:47

And Jacksonville fans, and this is to Calvin

11:49

Ridley's credit, are mad. Even

11:51

though they weren't too happy with him during the year when he ran

11:53

a lot of weird routes and had a lot of drops, the

11:56

Jaguars did really want him and the only

11:58

reason that they couldn't keep was because they had

12:01

to use the tag on Josh Allen, which they should

12:03

have signed him to a long term deal before.

12:04

So little but that that also,

12:07

that seems very plausible. But that also tells you

12:09

that even more of a fraudulent entity.

12:12

Is this like legal tamp

12:14

Oh yeah, that's part because it's like this stuff I've

12:16

been going on long before, you know, the legal tampering

12:19

window opened so wide.

12:20

Please take you had a wild free agent

12:22

spears. But I'll put a pin in that we can talk about that with Bill.

12:25

Yeah.

12:25

I don't know if we mentioned Mason Rudolph also signed

12:27

with the team, so he will back up will Levis

12:30

and like Garden Minshew, I think that's a good spot for Rudolph

12:32

because I think there's an opportunity to play there

12:35

potential.

12:35

It's on the side of the league before those last couple

12:37

of starts.

12:38

Isn't it ironic that when he did close

12:40

the season well or at least better than Kenny

12:42

Pickett and finally played at a

12:44

pretty solid level for the Steelers

12:47

and then they get rid of them finally, Like

12:49

I.

12:49

Am happy to see him not on the Steelers.

12:51

I mean, I'm certainly not like

12:53

vouching for him staying in Pittsburgh, but just the way where

12:55

it felt like he was on the team for fourteen years and did nothing

12:58

right then finally did a little bit of something.

12:59

They're like now young he appeared in four

13:01

games.

13:02

If it had qualified, he would have been third in the

13:04

NFL in QBR it

13:06

will stop long be forgotten.

13:08

Do we really need that statute make Mason Rudolph

13:11

last time?

13:11

And I had to check this on Pro Football

13:14

Reference right now just to make sure he

13:16

wasn't good even though it was only two months ago. No

13:18

that Mason Rudolph started a playoff

13:20

game in the year twenty twenty four he

13:23

was in the the NFL started the playoffs, all the

13:25

team's got to choose their starting quarter Mason

13:27

Rudolph was one of those quarterbacks.

13:29

Put it this way, one of the more low wattage

13:31

playoffs.

13:32

I can't even Rudolph throwing for nine

13:35

hundred and forty five yards, five touchdowns and two

13:37

picks in his final four games has a

13:39

real hearty whiff of Desmond

13:41

Rinder's last four games in Atlanta and people being.

13:43

Like, hey, he's pretty good. He's pretty

13:46

good.

13:46

Actually, speaking of Desmond

13:48

Rinner, the former

13:51

Falcons starting quarterback is

13:54

on the mood move. He was traded.

13:56

How about this, Rondell Moore upon

14:00

a second round pick, I believe, once upon a time.

14:02

Yep, yep.

14:03

So the Cardinals send Rondell Moore, their former

14:05

second round pick, to

14:09

the Falcons for Ritter So a

14:11

one for one swap. Love these It's fun, you

14:14

know, it's like old school player for player.

14:17

So the Cards get a new backup

14:19

and the Falcons at another

14:21

wide receiver.

14:22

I think the Falcons and I know

14:25

they're going to be like the sexy NFC

14:27

South pick, and they should be like, this

14:30

is another team that has like recrafted

14:32

their offense from the couple of offseasons, Like you

14:34

have Drake London, Darnell

14:37

Mooney, I like him as in your wide

14:39

receiver group, Rondel Moore, Cadarl Hodge,

14:41

who's more helpful than I think people realize.

14:44

Then maybe you've got Kyle Pitts finally emerging

14:46

b John Robinson like and Kirk Cousins

14:48

like. This offense on paper

14:51

looks dangerous by the way.

14:52

I'm so fantasy drafts aren't

14:54

for months, but I am one

14:57

of the many, many thousands

14:59

who will be back in on Kyle Pitts.

15:02

But it feels like a shaky fantasy

15:04

situation the Falcons general, because who's I'm not going

15:06

to a lot of people to like.

15:09

I was in on him in year one and year two, I

15:11

took year three off and I'm all the way back in.

15:13

Then we know what happens with you. Then he doesn't

15:15

perform, and then you write him off as a person as

15:17

a man.

15:17

I'm sort of in on this, Like Kyle

15:20

Pitts says, this ide don't cost me. That is

15:22

not a reality that like if

15:24

Kyle Pitts was who we thought Kyle

15:26

Pitts was, Like

15:28

I think we would know more by now. I don't think

15:30

he's as explosive as as he

15:33

looked through some injuries, and he had some injuries.

15:36

It's like every but I mean everything on Arthur

15:38

Smith and Ritter I think is a little too simple.

15:40

It's pretty rare that you have a challenge trade these.

15:43

These are both players that were a little disappointing

15:45

I think to their their team.

15:46

Ritter, I mean more than a little. But

15:48

he was a third round pick.

15:49

Like if he turns into a decent backup quarterback,

15:52

like that's what you kind of expect that of a third round pick. His

15:54

coach fire more more can make people miss.

15:57

He is now the third wide receiver on the Falcons

15:59

roster that has caught a pass in

16:02

the NFL in the last three years.

16:04

So like they they only

16:06

had two.

16:07

They only had one before Darnell Mooney and

16:09

then they had two and now they have three.

16:11

So they needed to progress. Yes, let's

16:13

take a break and then we will continue

16:15

onward. Right,

16:18

the Chargers making moves, they say goodbye,

16:20

and this one. You know, as

16:23

a team, I follow a team that needs

16:25

wide receiver help and maybe a playmaker that could

16:27

stretch the defense. Mike Williams

16:30

is on the market. The Chargers

16:32

release Williams. That Bolts pushed

16:35

a lot of pain into this offseason

16:37

with some restructures last year, and now they have to

16:40

pay the bill.

16:40

And that's why Mike Williams is no longer on the team.

16:42

And that comes after he signed a three year, sixty

16:44

million contract, sixty million dollars contract

16:47

after twenty twenty one. He was having

16:49

an awesome start to last season before

16:51

he tore his ACL And of course, Mark injuries

16:53

and Mike Williams, they are no strangers.

16:56

So any team that does sign up, I'm very curious

16:58

to see what his market is. I think there'll

17:01

be a lot of teams interested in him, but how much

17:03

money he gets considering his injury

17:05

history. But he's still pretty

17:08

young guy too. I think he's sneaky young. Yeah,

17:11

but maybe his body sneaky old will

17:14

be an interesting test in free agent.

17:15

Yeah, he is like he's a juicy

17:18

free agent wide out sitting out there. But it is

17:20

like how many games you're gonna get ot him year after

17:22

year? And I know this team's gonna look so different.

17:25

But when Mike Williams was not on the field

17:27

for the Chargers, during this, justin

17:29

Herbert era, they looked a lot different,

17:32

Like I think he certainly made

17:34

defenses have to pay attention to him. Now they're down

17:36

to Keenan Allen, Josh Palmer, and Quentin

17:38

Johnson. I think Quentin Johnson's got a lot of pressure

17:41

on him to be what they thought he

17:43

could be.

17:43

At this point, I think like ARPA is kind of stripping

17:45

it down a little bit and he's going to be this year.

17:48

You know, we'll see what happens this year. But this I

17:51

think this whole thing is starting to be built,

17:53

you know, stripped down to build back up.

17:54

But Gus Edwards, what do they call it? A controlled rebuild?

17:56

Is that what they call him? Something like that? I mean, you could

17:59

call it makes sense whatever you want.

18:00

No, I'm saying I feel like that's a term that's out

18:02

there.

18:04

I am not sure because

18:06

some of the

18:08

reporting around this right when it happened

18:11

was they actually would maybe try to get

18:13

him back at a lower price, and

18:15

so they also renegotiated

18:18

a deal for Khalil Mack.

18:19

To keep them. And then there's these and Joey

18:21

Bosa is that has that happened? Well,

18:24

they're working on his he's restructuring his deal too.

18:26

He's a controlled But I

18:28

know that Greg was was working behind

18:30

the scenes because yesterday when we were deciding, like

18:33

is there enough to do a show or Greg

18:35

kept being like, I think there's gonna be big Chargers moves.

18:37

I'm like, eight minutes later, I'm pretty sure some big Chargers

18:40

moves are coming in there. At

18:44

all.

18:44

It was obvious they had like the four.

18:47

Everyone was reporting that for weeks. That's something

18:49

had to have. But it just was like, you broke that BOSA

18:51

news. To me, I gotta admit is here.

18:54

Yeah, well that he restructured it to stay,

18:56

So what do you mean you have to admit that's what I

18:58

do? I operate in the news saying I have

19:00

to admit that I was a little off the grid on the way

19:02

I ate a little lunch.

19:04

I missed that.

19:05

You get do you really get beat on aggregating

19:07

news, like when you're not actually a reporter, you're

19:10

saying he beats you on that.

19:11

I'm not saying he beat I'm saying I entered the

19:13

show that I actually was productive nothing

19:16

with Mark. I'm saying the insider Mark Sessler,

19:18

I.

19:19

Entered the show without a key bit of information

19:22

related unlike something, and I

19:24

don't feel good about it.

19:25

I guess who was there for you?

19:26

I'm surprised, Mark, I

19:28

mean who was there for the freaking

19:31

listeners of the Around the NFL podcast that

19:33

I'm actually very surprised by

19:36

that that Bosa's staying considering

19:38

how little he's played. But Mike Williams, would

19:40

you rather have him or Calvin Ridley?

19:43

You know, Ridley if they're healthy, Mike Williams,

19:46

if they're healthy, Mike Williams.

19:47

I put Mike Williams is number twelve now in the new one on

19:49

one, which is confusing because half the people about this, it's

19:51

like I'm put ranking against people that are already signed.

19:53

But to me, he's never an ex receiver,

19:55

a true difference maker.

19:56

When he's out there coming off an a cl he might have

19:58

to sign a prove it deal. But let's say

20:00

he gets a Fugeesi deals. Let's say you know, it's

20:03

a three year deal or four years, but it's really two year

20:05

deal. So two for fifty for Ridley

20:08

or two for thirty five for Mike

20:10

Williams.

20:10

Give me Mike Williams.

20:11

Yeah, right, And if I had to guess I'm gonna

20:13

go one for fourteen is like I

20:15

think so too, something like I'd be but

20:18

you, Joe d I would be all over

20:20

that, especially if you're

20:22

a team in a win now window.

20:23

You take a check. We have prediction it's coming up later,

20:26

I believe in the show with Bill Barnwell

20:28

and I have a prediction of tied to Mike Williams.

20:30

Great, okay, so we'll just move on. So if

20:32

you're listening, just fast forward to this.

20:34

Yes, all right,

20:36

Joe Flacco got a job. We were just talking about Joe

20:38

Flacco last show. I was trying to wrap

20:40

my head around why you would ever sign Jameis

20:43

Winston in general, but to sign him to

20:45

replace Joe Flacco, who is one of the great

20:47

stories of the NFL season as Deshaun

20:49

Watson's backup took the Browns to the

20:51

playoffs.

20:52

The brown say bye bye.

20:53

So Flacco needs a job and he lands

20:56

with the Cults a one year, eight point

20:58

seven million dollar contract. How

21:00

much of that all right in four point five is guaranteed?

21:03

According to Schefty and a

21:06

good listen A nice landing spot

21:08

for Flacco. He is backing up a

21:10

second year quarterback who is a

21:12

top five draft pick. So unless

21:15

Anthony Richardson gets injured again, Joe's

21:18

not going to see the field. I kind of want to see Joe take

21:20

the field again, but I also want to see Anthony Richardson stay

21:22

on the field this year. So if anybody

21:24

was like invested in the arc of this Joe

21:27

Flacco end of his career renaissance, this could

21:29

end up be something that puts them in mothballs.

21:31

But good for him. He's in the league and he's

21:33

still making millions of dollars.

21:35

I just like that Anthony Richardson

21:37

is a Shane Stiken quarterback,

21:39

and Joe Flacco is a Shane Stiken quarterback,

21:42

and Gardner Minshew is a Shine Steaken quarterback.

21:44

Like, get you a coach that could do

21:46

both.

21:46

It's like, okay, let's just get the guy that's

21:49

exactly the same as the backup. No, like we've seen Shane

21:51

Stike and work it with Nick Foles to the tune

21:53

of one of the greatest Super Bowl performances

21:56

of all time. He was on the staff somewhere, wasn't he.

21:58

I don't know. Flaco will

22:00

be the starter though.

22:01

During some of the off season, while

22:04

Richardson recovers from a torn aco

22:06

and yeah, you would think he probably will end

22:09

up taking some snaps this year just because Richardson,

22:11

you know, had multiple injuries in those.

22:12

Well and Richardson had concussion

22:15

issues. And it's like the way that he plays, you just have

22:17

to wonder, like it's kind of a wild man in the in that

22:19

month that he played, it really was. It's so important to have backup.

22:21

Yeah, I think we could see Flacco, I'd say from the

22:23

Browns perspective, And I mentioned the other day, like they're

22:26

operating in fear like this, it would

22:29

it was. It was too much of a distraction to have, like a

22:31

fan favored to merge behind the quarterback who's

22:33

the worst free agent.

22:34

It wasn't about his base salary

22:36

is basically the same as Winston got

22:38

a little.

22:39

He was too popular and like, I don't I think

22:41

that's just another chapter in a

22:43

team stuck in a very dark situation

22:45

at under center.

22:46

They might say, they might say

22:49

that Flacco is potentially a fluco

22:52

If you ask them why they did it, they'd say,

22:55

yeah.

22:58

Winston, it's not it's not like you you have

23:00

an absolute I know Greg is hired than

23:02

jameis Winston than some, but it's like, right, Jameis Winston

23:04

is about as hot and cold as it gets.

23:06

Right, but his play was at such a high

23:08

level right that they say maybe

23:10

more of a fluco.

23:11

I know, but it's it's like, I

23:14

know where you're going.

23:14

I think, I think what you're bit of a story

23:17

is.

23:17

Dans seven,

23:20

forty fifth ranked bit Flaco

23:22

Fluco over the last ten years

23:25

is having quite a renaisson.

23:26

It is.

23:27

I'm going to try to do the bit and Mark keeps

23:29

on debating me.

23:31

I know, but it's like whenever, whenever, whenever

23:33

we go down Jets Avenue and you go, you

23:35

go, you spin the yarn about how everyone's against

23:37

the Jets, and it's always constant jokes and

23:40

get like, this is my this is my so called

23:42

right and this is what I liked about my team last week

23:44

and they got rid of it.

23:45

But what he's saying, though, is like he got that

23:47

comeback player of the year a war ahead.

23:49

He deserved it. But he could be a fluco. It

23:51

could be a bit of a pluco. I mean, I

23:53

get it. Am I supposed to find it as funny as the

23:55

two of you at the moment, I mean, it's the

23:57

apex of comedy.

23:59

Bobby Wagner his homecoming

24:01

with the Seahawks was brief after one season.

24:03

And we have a middle school watching us right now, so played at

24:05

a high level. I just don't look outside

24:08

the fish pay.

24:08

I can't help it. And they're all taking photos and stuff. They're

24:10

outside the windows. He goes to that place.

24:13

Washington Man, the commander's been active, created

24:15

terms with Bobby Wagner, formerly the Seahawks and

24:18

before that the Rams, and before that the Seahawks on

24:20

a one year deal, six million guaranteed money

24:22

worth up to eight and a half. So they go a

24:24

veteran hammer in the middle of that

24:27

defense. And Greg dare I say, at

24:30

the risk of offending you, future

24:32

Hall of Famer, I.

24:34

Think that's a safe one. You're not gonna defend

24:36

me on that one.

24:37

Phew, all right, other

24:39

news anything on that nice solid

24:41

signing.

24:42

Dan Quinn has added a lot. They've added a lot of players

24:44

to a defense that's gonna look.

24:46

For Their price is different, and I mean they weren't.

24:48

They aren't making long term commitments with most of their

24:50

players. They've been as active as

24:52

any team. I kind of like that. It forty

24:55

nine Ers fans have pointed out it's a little similar to what

24:57

the forty nine ers did when Shana Hammett showed up there.

24:59

Just like he's the base level with a

25:01

bunch of professionals for a year or two while you

25:03

start figuring out who are the core guys.

25:05

The Lines announced four year contract

25:08

extensions for Jim Brad Holmes and head

25:10

coach Dan Campbell.

25:11

That's a no brainer.

25:12

And finally before we take a break,

25:15

and then we're gonna welcome in Bill Barnwell.

25:17

I've got controlled fury. Thank

25:19

you.

25:19

Dan kirk

25:22

Cousins was officially introduced

25:25

as the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons,

25:27

and he looking sharp

25:30

in his suit in the Falcons call.

25:32

I feel like we all slept on a couple of things. You

25:34

know, you had.

25:34

Florio getting into it with people

25:36

in the media because he had a source

25:39

that said that Kirk was doing some real estate

25:41

shopping in Atlanta. But he also

25:43

what I read after the signing, I didn't know this. I

25:45

guess this is probably out there too, that

25:48

his wife's from there. Yeah, we got married.

25:51

There was born there podcast.

25:53

I maybe missed that show, or

25:56

maybe I wasn't listening to There

25:58

are a lot of a lot of tea

26:01

leaves there, and he went there. And here's

26:03

Kirk Cousins talking about why

26:05

he decided to move on from Minnesota.

26:08

In Minnesota, it was trending over the last

26:10

couple off seasons to be in somewhat year to year,

26:13

and as we talked with Atlanta, it felt

26:15

like this was a place where, you know,

26:17

if I play at the level I expect to play, that I

26:20

can retire a Falcon And that was something that really excited

26:22

me. And that's certainly the goal.

26:24

Kirk has also been number eight, I believe

26:26

his whole career. That's Kyle Pitts's number. Here's

26:29

a fun little waka waka conversation

26:32

about that.

26:33

He was funny about it. I said, I'll write a check

26:35

whatever, you know, foundation what. I'm not going to

26:37

let you just give me the number. I want to make it

26:39

worth your while. But then I make a donation

26:42

whatever needs to be. And he said, I just want, you know,

26:44

targets every game. You know, he said he

26:47

was joking. You know, he kind of winked, so I

26:50

joke at them. I said, good answer, good answers.

26:52

He winked, he winked, I'm telling you, Kyle

26:55

Pitts, there was no joke about that. He's

26:57

like, you can throw it straight right,

26:59

you could hit in the chest with passes.

27:01

I love you.

27:03

I will give you anything, including the

27:05

shirt off my back. They're gonna say,

27:07

Kirk Cousins looking sharp in that, and that's.

27:09

Does look good.

27:10

I think you gotta The Falcons have really

27:12

leaned into the whole chains thing, and it's

27:14

like, I think you gotta leave that in Minnesota and come

27:16

up with your own new new stuff. If I'm if

27:19

I'm the Vikings scene, he's bringing the Kirk co Chains

27:21

things here. It's like that was our thing. Come

27:23

up with something new. He did drop a little

27:25

bit of news though, though, too, which has been supported by reporting

27:27

that the Vikings really

27:30

weren't committing to him long

27:32

term, in the same way that the.

27:33

Fact that there was a even within these

27:35

negotiations.

27:36

Yeah, I think they were offering him good money, but after

27:39

the first year it maybe was gonna be a little year

27:41

to year and the Falcons were gonna make

27:43

it two plus. You know, they're really

27:45

committing two and a half, really three years probably

27:47

to Kirk.

27:47

It does me wondering, like Kevin O'Connell,

27:50

who on multiple occasions came

27:52

out very strongly saying we believe Kirk

27:54

Cousins should be our quarterback. I came here because of him.

27:57

We're working hard to get him back here. And then in the end,

27:59

like all all that's true is the money.

28:01

They weren't Well they yeah not.

28:03

I mean, like like Kevin O'Connell

28:06

that I think that is being pointed out that it's QUESSI.

28:09

Well, yeah, that's that's I don't know, like if you're

28:11

Kevin O'Connell, and I know we're big on Sam Donald,

28:13

but it's like you're you have a challenge

28:15

a quarterback? Now? Is that a royal? Are you? Guys? In? Though

28:18

I don't hate the landing spot for Sam Donald, but I

28:20

think you're talking about someone who's a you

28:23

know, little team of aten vibes do No.

28:26

They save it for Bill, who's been listening to this

28:28

entire segment and tells me over text that

28:30

he's actually talking over our points making.

28:33

All right, so let's take a break because that sounds

28:36

saucy. He might come he might come on mad. We

28:38

might have said something out offended Bill, And now

28:40

we're gonna find that podcasting I hope. So all

28:42

right, we'll be uh, we'll take a break. We'll be right back.

29:00

Our next guest.

29:01

Really at this point, he's no introduction,

29:04

but I'm gonna give it to you anyway. ESPN

29:08

star, podcaster,

29:11

expert, analyst, future general manager.

29:14

I see it as possibility if he wants that

29:16

path, Bill Barnwell, Bill,

29:18

what you could do it?

29:20

Future? I'm very skeptical. Uh,

29:23

there are a lot of people I would put ahead

29:25

of me on the future general manager

29:27

list, including several of the people who was the show.

29:30

Wow, several several, not all.

29:33

I want to i's

29:36

a gm GM on your team.

29:38

I want you to look in the New York night and say, was

29:41

it me?

29:41

Oh? I'll be thinking about this for probably months,

29:44

but no idea what you did? Mark psych just

29:46

now.

29:46

He is uh, he is a TV star. He's

29:48

actually between Sports Center hits right

29:50

now. Hell ya insider information

29:53

and you see him on around the Horn more now they're they're

29:55

using him there since I was out on the

29:57

town like in the afternoon

30:00

a couple of weeks ago, and as Mark Sessler oft

30:02

names well, no, just like I up up

30:04

on the television, you know, for all the place

30:06

to see was Bill Barnwell like chopping it up, but

30:08

of course no sound and then they don't put

30:10

the closed captions, so that's a that's a problem.

30:13

I spoke to management about that.

30:15

I I I try to be so eloquent

30:18

and so overly

30:21

verbose or so underleaverbos. Maybe

30:23

that you can read my lips even if you're.

30:25

Not as service to the to

30:27

the viewer.

30:27

You did you anything in our

30:29

news segment that you jumped on and you're getting

30:32

set up that offended you.

30:33

We seem to be getting yeah,

30:35

yeah, yes.

30:36

Absolutely, multiple things.

30:39

Wait or what else? No,

30:42

I would I.

30:43

Would have just watched the show. That would have been frankly

30:45

my dream of you just be to watch the show from

30:47

from behind the door, not have to come

30:50

up with original thoughts and just be like, yeah, I

30:52

contributed. I was a part of that show. I just

30:54

never got I was like, you know, the guy at

30:56

the All Star Game, we never got to play still an All

30:58

Star just because I've been got on the field does not matter

31:02

any things I want.

31:03

To ask you, Yeah, go ahead, let's get going.

31:06

Number one, the idea that Kirk

31:08

Cousins needs to leave the Kirko

31:10

chains in Minneapolis, not

31:12

saying you're wrong necessarily. But

31:14

it's not like Kirk left you like that in

31:17

Washington, like he brought that to

31:19

Minnesota. And I think as someone who does not have a

31:21

lot of bits, like Kirk has like two

31:24

or three things. And that's it. The things you know about

31:26

Kirk Cousins the chains, we

31:28

know you like that, and that he does

31:30

not know how to grow food. Those three

31:32

things he has to bring from stop

31:34

to stop because he doesn't have anything else.

31:36

That's true.

31:37

That's like the you don't abandon the bits, yeah,

31:39

like the like the Dad certain dad

31:41

bits like if you leave your keys behind

31:43

and then Dad's like, hey, you're not going to get too far without

31:45

these, like he needs to have, you

31:47

know, some of his greatest.

31:49

Maybe it's the fact that social

31:51

media giving me a shirt list

31:53

Kirko chains this morning with the caption woke

31:55

up Drippin'. It's just like, okay, well,

31:57

these social media handles need to so

32:00

I was last year, and to Kirk's

32:02

credit, he pointed out, the chains aren't going to be so cute

32:04

if we're not winning winning games.

32:06

So if he actually looks like a thirty six year

32:09

old coming off with torn achilles, then then

32:11

the bits are gonna die, all right.

32:12

So what we're gonna do is we're gonna and unless there

32:14

was another thing, yeah,

32:17

oh wow, keep going, let's go, let's chop

32:19

it up, let's figure things out.

32:20

The universal Sam Donald love.

32:22

I wanted to make it clear that even

32:24

though I am a guest and respect the opinions

32:27

of the around the NFL broadcasters

32:29

in the round the NFL Show.

32:30

I do not want to be included as one of

32:33

you want to be excluded from that narrative, Taylors

32:36

very much.

32:37

I am on the other side of this line.

32:40

History will proof be right?

32:41

You know what's good about that?

32:42

Because I am I don't know if you know, Bill very

32:44

much on the other side with you know, your colleague

32:46

and friend Mina chimes, amongst others,

32:49

that I think it's good because I don't need

32:52

what The one thing that Sam Donald Hive doesn't need

32:55

is it to become a tidal wave of everyone expecting.

32:57

Him to be good.

32:58

We still need dominate voices

33:01

like Barnwell, like Rosenthal,

33:04

like the cestags. You're wondering if I was

33:06

gonna leave you out saying

33:08

no, he sucks, because that will make it all

33:10

the sweeter.

33:11

So that is great news. No issue here,

33:14

No issue here.

33:14

I agree. There's a lot of times where like

33:17

people will like the Lions. For example, there

33:19

were no Lions haters the last couple

33:21

of years. Everyone thought the Lions were going to get better. Everyone

33:24

was excited about what they were doing. Like I think

33:26

that there's like this like false hater thing that

33:28

comes up and people like, no one believed in us.

33:30

Like no, everyone believed in you to get better. Maybe

33:32

you exceeded expectations, which good for you, but

33:35

everyone thought you were going to be better. Everyone thought

33:37

you did a lot to improve. Nobody was like, this

33:39

team's going to be terrible. So I

33:41

feel like you want to have some actual haters

33:44

to just just make your point, make

33:46

it feel a little a little more valid.

33:49

Will you are in fine form,

33:51

I could tell, like us even doing a lot of podcasts

33:53

this week on appearances, you should

33:55

check out the Bill Barnwell podcast in

33:57

addition to this show, and you'll be all caught up. So let's

33:59

get into some categories. I know you did some superlatives

34:01

on your show. This will be slightly different but kind

34:04

of the same. Oh maybe we'll make it different.

34:06

That's different. Humans talking about football.

34:08

Yeah, and I'll start with the

34:11

move that made the biggest impact.

34:13

And the reason I want to start with that one is because I'll

34:16

take the easy one, because I think Kirk Cousins

34:18

is that pick for me because

34:21

of obviously the position he plays, but also the

34:23

recent history of the Falcons. And I don't even

34:26

really need to dig in too far because you know

34:28

how important just having a stabilizing

34:31

force that that position can be for a Falcons

34:33

team that might be ready to make the leap

34:35

your thoughts Bill on the Cousins

34:37

Falcons fit, and then maybe if you want to throw

34:39

in one of your own biggest impact.

34:41

Guys, I

34:43

do like the fit. I think

34:46

the price matters when we talk about

34:48

free agency. I think, you know, especially when

34:50

you get the actual money here. And I think

34:53

great point with this out. I believe on

34:55

on social media it's not that big

34:58

of a deal. It feels big, and it's two garanteed

35:00

years. But this is basically the Daniel

35:03

Jones deal, but with inflation making

35:06

up most of the difference. Daniel Jones got eighty

35:08

two million dollars guaranteed. With

35:10

inflation from the cap, that's up to ninety three million

35:12

over two years, Kirk got a hundred. I don't

35:15

think that is an exorbitant amount for

35:17

a player who was I mean, what top ten

35:19

would you guys say last year before I got hurt in

35:21

terms of quarterbacks around the league, lower half

35:23

of the top ten for sure, like nine to ten.

35:25

Yeah, sure, that's that's a good

35:28

deal to me that. I think that's

35:30

a really solid price for

35:32

a quarterback who, even

35:34

if he's coming off the Achilles, he's not a moble

35:36

quarterback anyway. I don't think you're gonna be asking him to run

35:38

around a lot. A player who had a great injury

35:41

history before suffering the

35:43

Achilles, had not even been on the injury report

35:46

for many years before suffering that injury last

35:48

year. I like the fit in Zach Robinson's offense.

35:50

I think the personnel they've added not only they

35:52

had in place, but also the guys

35:54

they've added over the past two days. Donald Mooney

35:57

they trade for Ron dall Moore today, I

35:59

think those are exciting pieces to work

36:01

with. They play indoors again. I you

36:04

know, maybe he doesn't give you the ceiling

36:07

you're looking for. Maybe you don't get the you

36:09

know, the the rookie quarterback ceiling.

36:11

But I think if their goal is to win the NFC South,

36:14

this was a logical move.

36:16

Yeah. I think so too.

36:17

I just think people have this idea

36:19

that they're just like this ready made team and it's

36:22

a totally different coaching staff. People

36:24

often like project forward of like how is this offensive

36:26

line going to be? For instance, it actually was pretty disappointing

36:29

last year. It's one of the reasons I think they fell shure,

36:31

how is their defense going to be? Some of the

36:33

numbers look pretty good for the Falcons,

36:35

but Dvoa they were twenty fourth because they played

36:38

such an easy schedule that was artificially

36:40

inflating. You look at their defense,

36:42

the front sevens, you know, especially the edge

36:44

rushing positions, pretty lackluster. So it

36:47

helps their they look like the best team in

36:49

that division. But that's doing a lot of the work

36:52

here. If you're just lining up like who's got the best

36:54

roster in the NFC, they're

36:57

right in the middle, and they might be behind the

36:59

Minnesota Ike. So it's like, I don't

37:01

think there's some great ready made team there, just

37:03

in a bad division.

37:06

Yeah, but we'll take that, like play play

37:08

the car, play play it as it lays you

37:10

are not going to be stuck in the you

37:12

know, in the NFC West anytime soon. And you're

37:15

an owner who's in his eighties. You have a

37:17

roster that's not one of the younger rosters in football,

37:19

especially after all the free agent signings they made

37:21

last year on defense. Like you,

37:24

if you want to go win ten eleven games, I think

37:26

Kirk can do that for.

37:27

Your biggest impact for you other or

37:29

maybe it is Cousins or is it someone else?

37:32

I would say cousins, but I'm trying

37:34

to think of a second person. And if you could hear

37:36

me trying to stall, we

37:39

could give it too.

37:39

You don't have to force another impact.

37:41

No, No, because I think I think there's a

37:43

conversation to be had here. What

37:45

about Sequon Barkley?

37:47

Okay?

37:48

Should Should we have the Saquon Barkley conversation?

37:50

Because I think it implies

37:52

a couple of things. Number one, there's the economic

37:55

impact of Okay, we have found

37:57

the point where even teams like the Eagles

37:59

were not typically investing in running

38:01

backs, are willing to go out and pay for a

38:03

premium running back. We saw that price tag

38:06

make sense. He's getting less than Gabe Davis which

38:09

at the end of the day, like I have to

38:11

believe, if you polled thirty two NFL diferens of

38:13

coordinators and said, are you more worried about

38:15

Gabe Davis or Saquon Barkley, you

38:18

know if you're playing the next week, I have to imagine

38:20

most of them would say Saquon Barkley.

38:22

And I think it raises

38:25

this really fascinating question about

38:27

what this Eagles offense is going

38:29

to look like. Host Jason

38:32

Kelsey retiring and after they've

38:34

now hired Kellen Moore to be the offensive coordinator,

38:37

are they going to be a team that throws to the running

38:39

back more the way Morris offenses did with Tony Pollard

38:42

and Austin because they didn't do that much over the

38:44

past couple years. Jaalen Hurts Is Jalen Hurt's

38:46

going to run less? Is he going to be less a

38:48

part of the designated running back or quarterback

38:50

running game? Is he going to be the guy who was the

38:52

tushbush. Are they gonna put Saquon in the

38:54

tush push spot? I think is a viable

38:57

possibility. I think there's all these different questions

38:59

about what Squon is going to do in that offense,

39:02

and it may work out that he's just a typical

39:04

running back. He gets thirty catches a year, and that's a

39:06

pretty boring answer, but I think there's

39:08

a lot of exciting possibilities for how

39:10

the Eagles offense could evolve with Kellen

39:12

Moore and now with a different focal point

39:14

in Saquon Barkley.

39:15

I love the fit. I'm with you. I think that you know,

39:17

if you look at Saquon Barkley, a durability

39:20

was an issue in New York, but also the

39:22

cast around him and the quarterbacks

39:24

durability, and the wide out s durability,

39:27

and the tight ends durability in the offensive line

39:29

being a shambles. Like He's in a much better spot,

39:31

and I think the Eagles have found a way, even

39:33

though their season ended in total chaos,

39:36

to kind of flip the switch a little bit

39:38

where some of that goes away. And I think Saquon Barkley

39:41

is like a new face who, like You're right, It changes

39:43

the versatility of what the offense can do. And

39:45

I feel a little bit different about the Eagles and

39:48

him going to another place I wouldn't have been big

39:50

on. I like it in Philadelphia for the NFC

39:52

East rivalry side of it too.

39:53

I absolutely do too, because I think my answer for

39:55

biggest impact a lot of the options would be on

39:57

the Eagles. I think Bryce Huff

39:59

for them is going to be perfect. I think Chauncey

40:02

Gardner Johnson is in that

40:04

secondary. It

40:06

just absolutely needed something. I think

40:08

that is a sort of an undervalued position,

40:12

having that versatility where you can play slot, you can

40:14

play safety, and they absolutely needed

40:16

someone back there and they know what they're getting in

40:18

Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Like I

40:20

look at a lot of the moves this week, and a

40:22

lot of my favorite moves are the Philadelphia

40:25

Eagles getting I'm back in. Everybody's back

40:27

in on the Eagles. How about this pivot?

40:29

Here's my yes, go ahead, here's my question about the Eagles.

40:33

This is the only part that worries me about the Eagles

40:35

in Chauncey Gardner Johnson. So they could

40:38

have signed him to a multi year deal last year,

40:40

did not do it. He misses the entire

40:43

season basically because of injury, and

40:45

now they want to bring him back on a multi year deal.

40:47

Does that seem a little worrisome to you? Maybe

40:49

they're just trying to erase what happened

40:51

last year and just bring back, you know, try to like

40:53

just bring back the twenty twenty two team at all costs.

40:56

I think he just had a certain number

40:58

that he wanted to reach last year and

41:00

no one gave it to him. And the

41:03

reporting was just that they were going

41:05

to spend that money somewhere. But it's

41:07

the first few hours of free agency. He wasn't

41:09

taking it, and they pivoted to Bradbury

41:12

and that turned to be a disastrous contract. They were

41:14

not expecting to keep Bradbury or pay him

41:16

that much money, and then Chohnzi Garner Johnson

41:18

got left out in the cold.

41:19

I mean, he kind of did this year too.

41:20

None of these safeties got paid like monster money,

41:22

but he did better.

41:23

I like it better than the relationship between Chauncey

41:25

Gardner and Dennis Allen, which was one of the funnier

41:28

subplots in the NFC a couple of years

41:30

ago.

41:30

Somebody I'm looking for it on Twitter. Somebody sent

41:33

it to me. We've been talking. It's come

41:35

up a couple of times on

41:37

the show's shows this week that the

41:39

idea of being careful with your friend

41:43

that breaks up with the girl and then you say something bad about the girl

41:45

and then the friend gets back with the girl.

41:46

Yeah, troubled.

41:48

Apparently on the way out the door, Gardner Johnson

41:50

buried the city of Philadelphia and their fans.

41:54

That's a tricky one.

41:55

I think he's I think he sent some tweets

41:57

out to make up like the worst.

41:59

Part of playing there were the fans, Well,

42:01

welcome back. If

42:03

I could find that quote out, I'll do it. Pivot Greggy,

42:06

what is the move where you were scratching your head like, come

42:08

in?

42:10

What? All

42:12

right? Titans

42:14

fans aren't gonna love this.

42:16

But they made a couple just swaps

42:19

that to me, didn't make a lot of sense. One

42:22

of them was as he's alsha, here goes

42:24

to Houston and they

42:26

bring in Kenneth Murray from the

42:28

Chargers, which feels like a downgrade, and they paid it, paid

42:31

more money for it. Another one was Derek Henry leaves

42:33

the building and you bring in Tony Pollard,

42:35

which is fine. I like Tony Potter, so I'm

42:37

not really killing this one, but it's just

42:39

like a swap. Is this an

42:41

upgrade again for the same amount

42:44

of money. There's just a lot

42:46

going on there, And if

42:48

you look at each move. I don't think

42:51

one by one that they were terrible

42:54

moves by the Titans. Like Lloyd Cushionberry

42:56

gets a lot of money out center, but they all screamed

42:58

to me of a team a little bit like the Patriots, although

43:00

they spent on their own guys. It's like at some point you have

43:02

too much gap space and you just feel like you have

43:05

to spend it, and you make marginal upgrades,

43:07

like they went from Aaron Brewer to cushion Berry

43:09

at Center and just spent twice as much money. It's

43:12

like, historically that's

43:14

bad process and that sort of process

43:16

doesn't work out. So it's more of the Titans process

43:19

in general. But especially that Murray contract seemed

43:21

bizarre to me because he was kind of a fiasco

43:23

and with the Chargers.

43:25

Yeah, I had no idea what he

43:28

was, what that market was like. That was going to be my pick

43:30

as well.

43:31

Whoa, I've got a situation

43:33

that irks me. Okay, go ahead,

43:36

And it's more about just inactivity and I and

43:38

I you know the way this works. Probably by the time people

43:40

are listening to this, this could change. But

43:43

the Chiefs needed a wide receiver. They needed to

43:45

look for something, and they've added IRV Smith,

43:48

a you know, largely forgettable tight

43:50

end and nothing else. I know they're restructured

43:53

the Mahome Steel and I think there's that

43:55

to me suggests or hintsat a bigger move

43:57

to come, and I hope it does. But it's like they're

43:59

the draft is helpful too, but their drop position

44:02

isn't great, Like you need to look around

44:04

for something because you can't get I think they

44:06

will, but it's like they have done nothing

44:08

yet. And yet I speak against

44:10

myself because I trust no team more to

44:12

kind of figure it figure out their own issues. So still

44:15

players that we just talked about, Mike Williams in the news.

44:17

You know, Odell's out there and there's the draft

44:20

ahead. It could be trades. I'd like Mike Williams

44:22

would be interesting.

44:24

The Bengals ever trade t

44:26

Higgins to them. I forgot the Chiefs, by the

44:28

way for the Titans. There was a contract I liked

44:31

even less on the Titans, which was which we never

44:33

talked about in the pot, which is Chudobi a woozy which

44:35

I just didn't get because he was coming off

44:37

of torn acl last year and struggled

44:39

pretty badly for the Bengals got benched more

44:42

or less during that stretch run, and

44:44

they like want to establish a veteran culture and they

44:46

give all this money to him, So that's curious.

44:49

During a live stream on Twitch

44:51

last July, CJ. Gardner Johnson was asked

44:54

about his favorite and least favorite

44:56

part of his time in Philadelphia. Here's a quote,

44:58

Philadelphia, Colleen will this is not me.

45:00

This is the quote.

45:01

My least favorite thing is the people.

45:04

They're obnoxious. I

45:06

can't stand the mother.

45:09

All the people, not even just the fans.

45:11

I mean, you know, is

45:14

that the right context? Like they could that could

45:16

be like a out of context,

45:18

that could be differently.

45:19

Randy Chavez behind the glass, big funk, can

45:21

you check in on the context?

45:23

That's important. Bill, Bill's a journal

45:26

at his.

45:26

Heart, ironic may

45:28

It's like like if the Eagles fans read

45:31

that, wouldn't they recognize one of

45:33

their own? And all like that is someone absolutely,

45:35

I don't doubt. So that is hilarious

45:38

because yeah, he he tweeted

45:40

out flying home and put an Eagle thing

45:42

up.

45:42

He I don't think he's addressed these comments,

45:44

all right? How about that? Yeah?

45:46

Go ahead, I just have a question. We also find out

45:48

what his favorite thing was. Lea's favorite

45:50

thing was with people. That's a really

45:53

vague one that.

45:54

There's a lot of them too.

45:55

He does say, I do it with the fans of Philly

45:57

and apology regardless. This is an amazing

45:59

place and we had some memories together. Let's go get

46:01

us on.

46:02

So we had let bygones

46:04

be bygones, as they say, I don't know what that means.

46:07

Really.

46:07

How about this one the Vince Lombardi

46:10

memorial what the Hell's going on around

46:12

here?

46:14

Bill? For you?

46:15

The signing that really left your

46:17

trade or whatever that left you scratch in your head?

46:23

I would say the vikings

46:26

with Sam. I don't want to have to rehash

46:28

that though, because I really don't understand

46:31

what's going on there. Maybe

46:35

can we talk about the Raiders and Christian Wilkins,

46:37

because on one hand it makes total sense,

46:40

and on the other I don't think it makes sense. Like from

46:42

the perspective of we

46:44

need to upgrade this roster, they

46:46

needed an interior pass rusher, and I think that makes

46:48

total sense. But in the big picture,

46:52

I think they're They think they're a lot closer

46:54

to contention than they actually are. I

46:56

really think they need to take a step backwards on a step

46:59

forward, and kind of feels like they're just

47:01

making the same mistake that twenty years of Raiders teams

47:03

have done in years past. But I don't

47:05

know, do you guys feel like there's a an

47:07

obvious one that that I'm missing, because I feel like that's kind

47:09

of cheating too.

47:10

Does it strike He was like the Dominican Sue of the

47:12

Dolphins back when that happened and everyone thought that

47:14

Miami was winning the offseason.

47:17

That is a great great Wilkins

47:19

is a great player, and I was

47:21

surprised he got to free agency in the first

47:24

place.

47:24

It was one of the most surprising things.

47:25

And I do like what they're building winning

47:28

with defense first though. And you get

47:30

fifty seven million dollars guaranteed to a

47:32

defensive tackle in the same year that you

47:35

signed Gardner Minshew as your presumptive

47:37

starting quarterback. It's just it's weird

47:39

process. But you know, he was one

47:41

of the best players of AILA.

47:42

I offer my theory on this, I think and

47:45

this is a power of his

47:47

personality. Culled the personality Antonio

47:50

Pierce has an organization whipped up into an uproar

47:52

they got him puffing out their chess. You heard the comments

47:54

about the Chiefs and can't wait to

47:57

give him the Jordan rules. They go and

47:59

they they're in. You know, Antonio Pierce, a former

48:01

linebackers like, yeah, give me that Max Crosby

48:03

chess piece to pair with.

48:04

Him, and we're gonna kick some more ass.

48:06

And it's like, bring us in this guy and that guy,

48:08

where even though it makes all the sense in the world to trade

48:11

Devonte Adams and reset for the future, we're

48:13

keeping him because we're the We're gonna, We're gonna

48:15

continue to I think, And I don't think it's necessarily

48:17

a bad thing.

48:17

I think there's something to be said for just positive.

48:20

Vibes and why not they could win nine games

48:22

next year and not and make the playoffs. But at

48:24

the same time, maybe the Pierce

48:26

and the energy around the end of that season

48:28

and him getting hired is affecting

48:31

more than just where they went ahead.

48:32

Coach, No question, I think that

48:35

is absolutely what's happening there. I'll throw up two

48:37

more. I'll let you guys decide. It's more interesting.

48:41

I will say the Packers swapping

48:43

out Aaron Jones for Josh Jacobs

48:45

when I don't know what you guys feel. I think Aaron Jones

48:47

is the better running back of the two.

48:50

And the Patriots where they

48:53

came out this offseason and they said

48:55

we got money to burn. Jered Mayo was excited

48:59

to spend money, and they

49:01

have kind of just run it back with the

49:03

old Patriots. They have only made too many additions

49:05

outside of what they had previously, so a

49:08

little intrigued as to what their short

49:10

term plan is.

49:11

I like those guys, I think for me because

49:14

the Vikings, you know, they you know, you move on

49:16

with Daniel Hunter and you replace them with someone else. But it's

49:18

like the Aaron Jones to the

49:20

Vikings was one of my favorite moves, and I couldn't

49:22

be more with you. I'm just not as high on Josh Jacobs

49:25

as some others. Have been really hot and cold

49:27

season to season, and I absolutely

49:30

think that was a steal from Minnesota and Green Bay

49:32

got worse at running back. I've actually

49:35

liked what the Patriots have done.

49:36

I'm glad you brought that up because I think it's almost

49:38

been a little under the raidar. What a sea

49:41

change it is that Elliott Wolf is running their team

49:43

now and the philosophy that he brings

49:45

from Green Bay is totally different. Even said they're

49:48

changing their entire scouting language

49:50

that they've had, so everything's going to

49:52

be different. And that's

49:55

just not a team that goes out there and spends

49:57

crazy. So yes, Jerrod Mayo said that they

49:59

had all this space to spend. I think they

50:01

wanted to. Now look when we got a

50:03

very competitive, good market, those

50:05

are the types of deals. Actually, I would not have expected

50:08

Bill Belichick to get done. So it did

50:10

feel a little different that these players

50:12

were coming back and then the Uce move just

50:15

because we haven't hit it on this podcast is one

50:17

of the craziest reported stories we've

50:19

seen. That he literally had eleven

50:21

million dollars guaranteed in a two year

50:23

contract that he passed on for

50:26

a one year, three million dollar contract

50:28

with that can go up to eight incentives,

50:30

which is wild. And you're seeing some buy

50:32

in from the defensive players, especially on

50:35

this team, of like maybe what Mayo's gonna

50:37

do. But I thought, I think it's an ultimate bet

50:39

on yourself moment that he's literally taking less

50:41

money because he thinks he's gonna hit those incentives

50:43

and more importantly, that he'll get to free agency

50:46

next year, people say, like, bet on yourself

50:48

passing on eight million dollars guaranteed,

50:51

bet on yourself. I literally can't

50:53

remember that happening, especially for a

50:55

second round pick who's probably made what two

50:57

three million dollars total in his entire career.

51:00

It's almost unprecedented. Said now, I'm rooting

51:02

a little extra for josh Ucci. I think it was a good movie.

51:04

Had twelve and a half sacks two years ago.

51:06

Good luck to him.

51:07

Good luck.

51:08

Yeah, if I was his age, I'm serious. Agent

51:10

wasn't thrilled.

51:11

Does he have an agent? Yescause

51:14

you could.

51:14

Tell the way Tom p the Pell Raiser,

51:17

tweeted it out, you could tell this

51:19

is a rare case where a player went on

51:21

their own and made the decision, like

51:24

essentially he went against his agent's advice and did

51:26

what he wanted to. I'm fine with the Patriot like they were

51:28

in on really but they had a number. They weren't going

51:30

to go too high, like what are they gonna do?

51:32

Seven and ten?

51:33

We we just we just came off

51:35

a season where we were like, Okay, the Patriots need

51:37

speed, they need they desperately need pieces.

51:39

Where were their new quarterback's gonna be Yeah.

51:41

The guy they've added is Antonio Gibson. Hmmm,

51:45

I don't know, all right, I don't know.

51:47

A couple more minutes with Billy, I'm

51:49

gonna I'm gonna combine two categories

51:51

here. So best remaining player in

51:53

your opinion, and let's tie that together

51:56

with predictions for what's next,

51:58

Bill Barnwell, who's

52:00

a player that you you you're quite fond of

52:02

that's on the market, uh, and

52:04

a team that should be very interested

52:06

in going after said player.

52:08

Okay, so let's let's go.

52:10

Maybe not even a prediction, Bill, more just like

52:12

in your mind, like what just makes so much

52:14

sense?

52:15

You know, for you, I'll throw

52:17

a prediction out there. I'll go ahead, not scared, go for

52:19

it. I'd put a team out

52:21

there. I think a Greek Armstead makes a lot of sense, a

52:24

player who is really talented as

52:26

a free technique San Francisco.

52:28

It wasn't like he wasn't playing well, had some injury

52:30

issues, but still is playing at a high level. I think

52:32

they had some some cap concerns. Maybe

52:35

they could be a little a little less expensive after adding

52:37

Hargrave on the defensive line, Nick Bosa's deal

52:39

is hitting and that's a significant contracts and maybe

52:42

they're cutting back a bit.

52:44

I put a pin in this for one second, Bill,

52:46

I hate to interrupt you. We actually have

52:48

developing news on the Armstead

52:51

situation. You are not allowed to look at your

52:53

computer because it sounds

52:55

like we know where he's gonna go.

52:58

If you can.

52:58

Guess what an opportun where he ends

53:01

up landing. You actually win

53:03

around the NFL podcast twenty twenty four.

53:05

You're the like like those shows you're on

53:08

ESPN. Here we go.

53:10

I don't win very often. I the

53:12

team I was going to put out there was

53:15

the Jacksonville Jaguars.

53:16

Whoa are you serious? Stops?

53:18

Did he get it? He gotta road? Who

53:21

I told you on the podcast?

53:25

What I told you this? This guy

53:27

should be a GM But that's it. Time

53:29

he sees things.

53:30

I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

53:32

I did not look they were my pick. I kind of figured

53:34

if they got count seated, go for that kind of move

53:37

it.

53:37

Actually, he's a Northeastern

53:39

graduate. He's got integrity for you. They don't have like

53:41

a television directly in front of you that's

53:43

off to the side. That okay, I and I believe you. I

53:46

believe you because you're You're that's the ilk

53:48

of type of the journalists that you are. You would have you've nailed

53:50

that wonderful job.

53:51

No, I would either have made a funny pick

53:53

that was wrong as opposed to a card. So why is that such

53:55

a great move? Now for the Jacks, they

53:58

made a couple of cots. Put it Hazio. They

54:01

needed some pieces up front. They needed to make an addition

54:04

to the defensive side of the ball. They

54:07

are, you know, they're set on the edge with Walker

54:09

and Josh Allen. They cut Darius

54:11

Williams. I think they're gonna maybe address corner

54:13

in the draft. But it

54:16

kind of felt like once they lost Calvin Ridley, they

54:18

had money to burn. I think they were budgeting

54:20

to bring him back, and once they lost in Tennessee,

54:23

they kind of had this big chunk of money, didn't

54:26

really have a lot to do with it. It wasn't really any you know, a

54:28

replacement for Ridley on the offensive side of the ball that made

54:30

sense. They already signed Gabe Davis. I think

54:32

they'll probably draft a wide receiver, but

54:35

Armstead was the best player left and address

54:37

the position of need for them. I think they were weak up front.

54:40

I think they needed another piece on the interior arms

54:42

s it's a great player. Thought it made a lot of sense.

54:44

I love me. He's like six foot eight, could barely walk

54:46

the fit through a door. Still playing well.

54:48

He was actually the first large fifth highest graded

54:50

interior pass rusher last year according

54:52

to PFF. Just miss snaps for the

54:54

first time and missed thirteen games over the

54:56

last two years. It does remind me a little

54:58

bit of though, the Rams signing Alan Robinson

55:01

just because they had so much money when they couldn't

55:03

get Von Miller that they just like, well, we got to spend

55:05

that money the next day, and so that's the Jaguars

55:07

do this with the Calvin Ridley money. But Armstead's

55:10

a good player.

55:11

But did they was Trent balky

55:13

the guy who drafted Eric Armston?

55:15

Ooh was he

55:17

was?

55:17

He still there?

55:19

I believe he was. That

55:21

was back in twenty fifteen,

55:24

seventeenth over.

55:25

I think Trent Balki lasted it until

55:27

fifteen or sixteen. So you've really

55:29

sleuthed it once again. You

55:31

win, Yeah, twenty sixteen he was there until

55:34

So he did draft Eric ham

55:36

said, you can often connect these little dots

55:38

the well he can.

55:40

Yeah, I can't.

55:41

Bill, before we let you go a little heat check

55:44

on you, because you've already won this podcast. But

55:46

did you also win well, you can't

55:48

win it out right because f and Rosenthal

55:50

went four and Oh what a year Rosenthal had in his

55:52

predictions. Bill, I don't know if you were plugged

55:55

it on that. It was I heard infurious.

55:58

A source texted me about very time.

56:00

It was a constant thorn in the side of the other two

56:02

people on this show.

56:03

He had a great year at his predictions, including his over

56:05

unders where he went four and Oh.

56:07

Now we're going to check back back in August. You

56:09

were on the show.

56:09

Bill, let's

56:12

go over your over unders.

56:13

Here we go.

56:14

You had the Rams over six and a half.

56:17

That was a home run.

56:18

Give him a ding to a good start, give him a big

56:20

old Did you had that by about week you know, fourteen

56:23

and then seven? You

56:26

had the Lions under

56:28

nine and a half they had

56:31

twelve.

56:31

You were that you were you were that team

56:33

that didn't believe in him.

56:34

You were the haters. You

56:36

were the hater You

56:39

had the Broncos over eight and a half.

56:42

Oh,

56:44

this is no way to send him out of the episode.

56:47

Hey, this is just this is accountability. The

56:49

Broncos went eight and nine. Wow, I

56:51

didn't realize they got to eight. You almost had it up a half

56:53

game short. Yeah, and the Eagles

56:56

under eleven and a half and that was

56:58

looking like was a a lot of trouble. And then they

57:01

went in the tank and finished at eleven and six after

57:03

they were eleven.

57:03

And one, I believe.

57:06

Yeah, at the end of the year.

57:08

We won't say what Mark did in that competation.

57:10

Oh, it's a disaster.

57:12

My source also texting, but Mark did as well.

57:14

Oh I'm not surprised.

57:15

Now you gave him another thing to think about it. He lays

57:17

in bed with his eyes wide open, staring at

57:19

the ceiling. Bill, come on,

57:22

mental health.

57:23

That's a nice ceiling.

57:24

Bill Barnwell, you've said it all. Please,

57:28

what do you got out there? Give people avenues

57:31

to get to more Barnwell.

57:33

Bill Barnwell Ridding content at ESPN

57:36

dot com, ESPN's

57:39

Bill Barnwell Show podcast.

57:43

I'll think I'll be on NFL Live sometime next week, which

57:45

a watch NFL Live every day. Maybe maybe I'll

57:47

hop on there some sports centers

57:50

here and there around the horn here and there, sports centers.

57:53

Here I'm doing I'm trying a new thing as

57:55

hosts. I'm doing the hot ones

57:57

thing, the host of hot ones. Or He's like, look in this

58:00

were that camera, in that camera and tell us what you got

58:02

going on, And I think you did a great job with it.

58:04

Just there. I've only I've only got one

58:06

camera. Unfortunately, I'm just gonna stare at that camera

58:08

until until proven.

58:09

Otherwise, Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Barnwell, thanks

58:12

beg, thank you.

58:15

Now. Russ Moore, well, I

58:17

mean that was a stunt. That was a

58:20

nice look into the skills of Bill Barnol. Just

58:23

thirty two te got.

58:24

It and Ian called them a dark horse.

58:26

So he he managed to pick a dark

58:28

horse.

58:29

Pretty good. Let's take a break and uh, let's

58:31

finish up the news.

58:35

NFL media insiders. Do

58:37

they even like each other?

58:40

Great reaction

58:43

to some something that just happened

58:45

here, sorry Tom reaction.

58:47

So as Tom and I are reporting, we have

58:49

a trade.

58:50

It's always confusing to me which tweets

58:52

you put both names, and then some tweets

58:54

it's only one name. I don't know how that all works.

58:59

He was second was.

59:04

Greg Greg Rolls a doll on

59:07

the air. NFL Network

59:09

saying what.

59:10

Needs to be shd that

59:12

there's heat. I don't even need

59:14

to say it.

59:15

That clip if you re listen to it

59:18

on the podcast or you or you watch it on

59:20

YouTube. Tom starts

59:22

to break the news. He has like a half

59:24

second. He starts speaking and

59:27

Ian literally cuts him off.

59:29

That's the game. But

59:32

when we went down this avenue, that's the game

59:34

back in Austin. Like I said that, there is a bit

59:36

of a flashpoint focus elements

59:38

and it's just mounting and growing and bubbling.

59:41

Just we're just heading into draft season.

59:44

This is all coming to a head. That's what flashpoint

59:46

focus is all about. Yep, do we have another

59:48

clip or is it we do it?

59:50

We do listen

59:53

to that.

59:55

That's soul right there. All

1:00:02

right, let's listen to.

1:00:03

Greg really quick before we let you go.

1:00:06

I don't want to be too harsh.

1:00:07

You know on your backdroper, do you wear it kind of looks like you've

1:00:09

got antlers just with there's like a back.

1:00:13

There like move. Yeah.

1:00:15

A producer also

1:00:17

want to see what the sign says behind you since we'relling

1:00:19

in every third letter, So as long as.

1:00:20

It's nicer, if you're if

1:00:22

you're a New Orleans fan, you'll kind of recognize

1:00:25

that artist Simon who

1:00:27

does a lot of stuff.

1:00:28

That was a wedding gift.

1:00:29

And you can also see my my lock trophy

1:00:31

here as the back to back champion

1:00:33

of the around the NFL Lock competition.

1:00:36

It's a dynasty. People are saying there

1:00:38

is no greater there is no greater

1:00:40

self promoter in the entire building though.

1:00:42

Greg, No, he's he's

1:00:44

there. If he's got a platform, he

1:00:47

will be pumping.

1:00:49

You know. It's like like a politicians thing,

1:00:52

like, don't answer the question that they ask Uh,

1:00:54

answer the question you wish that they asked.

1:00:56

I pivoted right off that antler. You

1:00:59

might right into what was important. You should

1:01:01

run for vice.

1:01:03

We would be comfortable if you want to join the RFK,

1:01:06

take a just a sabbatical here, we'd

1:01:09

be.

1:01:13

It's like antlers.

1:01:14

By the way, while I was saying that, I was like,

1:01:16

oh, I'm clipping this for the show.

1:01:17

Really good hell, good work. I like it all.

1:01:20

Pell Raiser coming after you. He was trying to

1:01:22

make a fool of you on live television.

1:01:24

I could work on that backdrop. There's a lot going

1:01:27

on it.

1:01:27

It's not a it's not as

1:01:29

smooth as some some out there.

1:01:32

Dan's looks great, you know, Mark's is good.

1:01:34

Mine mine is about as stark as it gets.

1:01:36

I'm still working on that space.

1:01:38

The key to a good background, I find

1:01:40

is to have more depth. But it's

1:01:43

hard to have depth of space here

1:01:46

in uh Los Angeles, right.

1:01:48

I tried to talk Amica into

1:01:50

I would set it up on the like that the camera would

1:01:52

be showing the whole rest of the garage,

1:01:54

and she thought that looked insane to show

1:01:57

like the back of a garage.

1:01:59

Then there would be depth, Like, Greg, we get it, you're a feminist,

1:02:01

like Liz pharised sitting

1:02:03

on the shelf.

1:02:04

We get it, dude. Well that's side champion.

1:02:06

Birthday present from Liz says Happy

1:02:09

birthday, Greg.

1:02:09

It used to be in your bedroom. You could have switched that up.

1:02:12

Big Wait, that's as signed Liz phari cit not

1:02:14

only you know, individually signed uh.

1:02:18

When she was a guest of the Tonight Show

1:02:20

and I was a page

1:02:22

there, right, I.

1:02:23

Thought maybe she went to your wedding too.

1:02:25

I'm gonna give you a little bit of a past there, because there's more

1:02:27

to it than just look at

1:02:29

me.

1:02:29

I mean'd give you I'm a champion.

1:02:34

So Gabe Kapler is in the mix there back there,

1:02:36

that's signed.

1:02:36

Us that he is a

1:02:39

a Jewish star of a Boston sports team.

1:02:42

Who enter that who was batting? I believe

1:02:44

eighth for some

1:02:47

team in Japan? Uh and what

1:02:49

I guess you could call it would be the first time I really ever

1:02:51

met my wife Emica.

1:02:52

How about that Greg is relling autographs?

1:02:54

Apparently I didn't realize that about him autograph

1:02:57

hunting.

1:02:57

I've seen him at the President elbowing sharp

1:02:59

elbows to children.

1:03:00

Also get a lot of presents. It seems like a lot of

1:03:02

people were giving you gifts left.

1:03:04

Well, that was from the best man at our wedding.

1:03:06

He brought us to that game. It was when we first

1:03:08

met at it was your.

1:03:09

Cousin who was stung by one hundred and twenty b's at the wedding?

1:03:12

Did he give you?

1:03:13

That was not at the wedding. That was when we were ten years

1:03:15

old.

1:03:15

In the breaking news Forrests of Wilbraham

1:03:21

breaking.

1:03:22

News, what was it again?

1:03:25

I forgot?

1:03:26

The Seahawks are acquiring

1:03:29

Sam Howell Washington

1:03:32

Commanders. They also get a fourth

1:03:34

round and a sixth round pick in the deal

1:03:37

the Commanders actually move

1:03:40

up. I mean, man, if i'm Sam Howe,

1:03:42

I'm like, wait, it's

1:03:45

only a move up. The Commanders move up to the

1:03:47

third and the fifth round of the draft.

1:03:49

So essentially two pick swaps

1:03:52

where the Commanders move up one round

1:03:55

and the Seahawks get Sam Howell for

1:03:58

I'll say it virtually nothing.

1:04:00

Yeah, I kind of love it for Seattle.

1:04:03

Oh well, it depends

1:04:05

on your opinion of Sam Howell.

1:04:06

I actually think like that. I think

1:04:08

it's good in business. I know that Gino

1:04:11

Smith is just like likely your start

1:04:13

at this point, but like McDonald,

1:04:15

not good news for Gino Smith.

1:04:16

It is good news Gino could have had a tougher

1:04:20

competitor. I still think actually

1:04:22

a rookie will be there too, and it might be one of those

1:04:24

three headed battles where it was Remember it was like Whitehurst

1:04:28

Russell Wilson, and was Matt Flynn there.

1:04:30

Matt Flynn and Matt Flynn had been the big free agent

1:04:32

signing then lost his job.

1:04:33

But if this is their veteran competition

1:04:35

for Gino, you know he's

1:04:38

he's gonna be over Sam

1:04:40

Howise, certainly. And look, if you can just get

1:04:42

a third year quarterback who's shown that he's decent,

1:04:45

and all you have to do is move down twenty four

1:04:47

spots from the third to the fourth round. I mean,

1:04:50

sure, any cheap way to get a quarterback, I'll

1:04:52

take it.

1:04:52

Solid trade.

1:04:53

Yeah, And it's easy to forget now because

1:04:55

he had such a disastrous second half.

1:04:58

There were a real conversation about how being

1:05:01

the answer there and watching now a regime change

1:05:03

occurs, so all of a sudden, he's

1:05:05

no longer a favorite son. But

1:05:07

he absolutely torpedoed his future

1:05:10

there with some reckless bad

1:05:12

play. So he's looking to kind of become

1:05:14

a more consistent player. Maybe he can get

1:05:16

he's kind of got a little bit of Ryan Fitzpatrick

1:05:18

DNA, and then maybe he can have

1:05:21

opportunities along the way life.

1:05:22

And thanks to his late season swoon,

1:05:25

they won four games and are in position to get

1:05:27

a new quarterback. True obviously the Greggy and

1:05:29

the Pats there.

1:05:30

It was a good I had to It was a lesson

1:05:33

on stats don't lie, but they

1:05:35

need context. I believe he was benched

1:05:38

at the time that he was leading

1:05:40

the NFL in passing yards. That's

1:05:42

we're close to it. My son

1:05:44

walked or maybe it was fantasy points or something

1:05:46

among quarter because Walker was

1:05:49

was blown away. He was like, how could they

1:05:51

bench the guy that is leading the NFL in

1:05:53

passing?

1:05:53

He was throwing for an ass ton of passing yards?

1:05:55

I remember that. All right, let's

1:05:58

finish out the news. How many passing yards?

1:06:00

Nast he was on pace

1:06:02

for like a five thousand yards.

1:06:03

I love you know dirty words

1:06:06

or phrases that are spun that way where it's

1:06:08

like, that's not you just created a term.

1:06:09

For the most part, thank you Randy for letting me

1:06:11

know that Kapler was playing for the Yomi or he Giants.

1:06:13

By the way, struggled badly.

1:06:15

Was kind of what's that mark to say that? I didn't

1:06:17

say that. Heavens to Betsy, my

1:06:21

grandmother used to say that. So that's rapid, yes.

1:06:23

Like everyone that was born in eighteen ninety

1:06:25

eight used to say that. All right, here we go,

1:06:30

let's spin through the rest of the news. Here the

1:06:32

Cowboys finally get in the mix. They

1:06:34

signed Eric Kendricks to a

1:06:37

deal. Kendricks had backed out

1:06:39

of an agreement or it was heading toward.

1:06:41

Where was it? Yeah, he had agreed with the forty nine.

1:06:43

Ers Niners, and he changes his mind and goes to

1:06:45

the Cowboys. The Raiders finally feels

1:06:48

like it's been something that's been percolating

1:06:51

for a couple of years.

1:06:52

Now.

1:06:52

They say goodbye to Hunter renfro So

1:06:54

they cut ties with the slot receiver and

1:06:57

Ronnie Stanley stays

1:07:00

with Baltimore the guard. He gets a haircut, which

1:07:02

means a pay cut, and they trade

1:07:05

Morgan Moses to the Jets

1:07:07

for a late pick swap. Actually, I like that trade

1:07:10

for the Jets as well. That was a he

1:07:13

was on the Jets then signed with the Ravens,

1:07:15

now the Jets getting back for some late

1:07:17

round picks.

1:07:18

Anything on those moves. I like

1:07:21

Stanley staying in Baltimore because they've lost offensive

1:07:23

lineman, they've lost Patrick Queen, they've lost Geno

1:07:25

Stone, they lost Ronald Darby. You know, it's Odell

1:07:28

Beckham's out the door. And you mentioned the Cowboys

1:07:30

rimerently talked about it. I feel like everyone is so it's kind

1:07:32

of like we get it. But for the

1:07:34

Jerry Jones telling us that this is going to be

1:07:37

like the all in team that gets super active.

1:07:39

They've lost almost forty five

1:07:41

hundred snaps in terms of

1:07:43

personnel off the roster, and in some of those and key

1:07:45

positions, they're.

1:07:46

In a tricky financial place, and I think that's

1:07:49

playing into They

1:07:51

got this dack thing hanging over the team. You got

1:07:53

the CD Lamb contract hanging over the team.

1:07:56

You got you know, Michah Parsons down

1:07:59

the road. I think get they run any kind

1:08:01

of in a tough spot a little bit.

1:08:02

Yeah, they also had I don't

1:08:04

know if it was ever confirmed that it was actually Tyrone Smith's

1:08:07

a Twitter account that was like saying, call

1:08:10

me up, Cowboys, I don't really want to leave. I

1:08:13

also think though the Cowboys do have a heart. There

1:08:16

is a draft

1:08:18

analyst out there by the name of like Connor

1:08:21

Connor NFL draft analyst, and he said

1:08:23

he's a big Cowboys fan, apparently that

1:08:25

he would start doing meth if the

1:08:28

if the Cowboys don't freaking sign a free

1:08:30

agent in the next hour, And within

1:08:33

that hour they signed Eric

1:08:35

Kendrick. So I think they saw that out there and they wanted.

1:08:37

To save somebody. Yeah, that's that's that is

1:08:39

That's a caring move.

1:08:40

Tyrone Smith, by the way, veteran

1:08:43

left tackle thirty three years old, coming off

1:08:45

a big season with them. He was He's

1:08:48

always been a really talented, uh

1:08:50

you know, borderline Hall of

1:08:52

Fame level talent for the Cowboys.

1:08:55

I'm surprised he doesn't have a hotter

1:08:57

market. He's hanging out there still. Maybe

1:09:00

does that have a hot market. He's just taking his time

1:09:02

to make the decisions. But like nudging

1:09:04

the Cowboys and be like, hey, guys, you want to think this over

1:09:06

two weeks after it was widely reported that they.

1:09:08

Were moving on.

1:09:09

I kind of love if there's some type of red flags,

1:09:11

you know some I think medical history.

1:09:13

He's not getting the contract that he was hoping

1:09:15

for, some big guaranteed money, and

1:09:18

teams must be worried about the injuries.

1:09:19

I mean, can you understand, like I do, get the I

1:09:22

kind of want to just stay with the Cowboys in Dallas

1:09:24

because it's annoying to move.

1:09:25

First of all, I'm sure he could get a move. At least it seems

1:09:28

fun to play for the Cowboys. I know,

1:09:30

Cowboys. I hate the Cowboys. Don't want

1:09:32

to hear that. But you're on Prime time all the time,

1:09:34

You're treated well by ownership,

1:09:37

You're in a beautiful stadium, everybody's always

1:09:39

watching.

1:09:39

You probably live.

1:09:40

On a ranch, although Schultz pointed

1:09:42

out how state income tax Dalton

1:09:45

Schultz pointed out how sometimes when

1:09:47

you're working out, they are like taking

1:09:49

tours past you and they

1:09:51

can see through the glass to you working

1:09:54

out, and he was just like, what's you know, kind

1:09:56

of reminded me of your situation mark where

1:09:58

the doors are going by your Now imagine

1:10:01

that, except you're doing like squats

1:10:03

and whatnot. I mean, the last thing I think you would want

1:10:05

is.

1:10:06

Yeah, but there's a little difference between me doing squats

1:10:09

and Dalton Schultz here. It was impressive.

1:10:11

You're saying like you're concerned you might

1:10:13

you know, be for something when you're doing squats and someone.

1:10:16

I just mean, like, you don't want

1:10:18

people staring at you while

1:10:20

you're lifting, you know, doing weights and stuff.

1:10:23

And you got you know, that's certainly a consequence

1:10:25

as well. Potentially, Yeah, you're.

1:10:26

Right, that's one of the that's that's that's that could

1:10:29

happen to you. That would be problematic.

1:10:30

Go to Terry Blacks right before middle school

1:10:32

class.

1:10:34

They keep they must have nowhere else to go because they've

1:10:36

gone back and forth.

1:10:37

I should at times journalistically, a downside

1:10:39

of playing for the Cowboys is that you physically cannot

1:10:41

advance past the divisional round of the playoffs.

1:10:44

But there's a little bit of a yeah, but your off season starts

1:10:46

sooner.

1:10:47

Glass ceiling as well.

1:10:48

It's true.

1:10:48

You don't really get paid extra for the playoffs. It's sneaky,

1:10:50

it's true, I mean a little bit.

1:10:52

Uh.

1:10:53

In other news,

1:10:56

Willie Gay goes to the Saints.

1:10:58

The Bucks bring Jordan I'd had

1:11:00

the safety back home after a

1:11:02

couple of years with the Jets. The Bengals get

1:11:04

Sheldon Rankins, who I've always

1:11:07

liked Von Bell.

1:11:08

They cut ties with Nick Scott.

1:11:10

Also, while we were taping, the

1:11:13

Lions picked up DJ Reader, who

1:11:15

is coming off a torn quad, but it was a very good

1:11:17

player when he is healthy,

1:11:19

to a pretty sizey contract. Some of

1:11:21

these contracts for defensive lineman Rangkins

1:11:24

is a good example, went way up.

1:11:26

Like he's a guy that Williams injuries. They had

1:11:28

been signing like one year. Yeah, I know, torn quads.

1:11:30

I'm surprised that I want to look at the particulars

1:11:33

if they have some protection injury wise, because

1:11:35

you're often not the same player off

1:11:37

a torn quad. But Rankings got two for twenty six

1:11:39

Like that just shows how much cap spaces

1:11:41

out there because he's the same player. He's a very good player,

1:11:43

the same player as he's been the last couple of years, but now

1:11:46

is getting almost like double the money that he was getting

1:11:49

from Houston or from the Jets.

1:11:50

Should be clear that Adams had

1:11:52

a torn quad tendon, which is

1:11:54

different than the muscle.

1:11:55

So I think it's the tendon.

1:11:57

Is the one where it's like, uh oh, maybe

1:11:59

in the muscle terrors not quite as

1:12:03

we're boding. All right, that's

1:12:05

what's happening in the news.

1:12:07

You get everything. Well, I think we had a couple of predictions

1:12:10

ye out there.

1:12:11

Oh yeah, yeah, let's go, let's cycle back to that.

1:12:12

So I asked the Bill

1:12:15

to offer a prediction, and not

1:12:17

only in real time did he

1:12:19

offer a sound one. It was confirmed

1:12:22

via the news seconds later that he

1:12:24

was correct in uh

1:12:26

uh getting.

1:12:28

Who was it?

1:12:28

It was to the Jaguars,

1:12:31

Eric, Eric Armstead, So Eric Armstead,

1:12:33

So Brian.

1:12:36

He just had a stroke. Mark.

1:12:38

I don't know who Brian is. Mark, who could

1:12:41

be Brian? If you give us a prediction.

1:12:42

So, Mike Williams, I've been looking around

1:12:44

at a couple of these wide out rooms, and I think

1:12:47

Mike Williams. I think the

1:12:49

former owner of this team would have liked

1:12:51

the Mike Williams concept a lot. But the

1:12:53

Las Vegas Raiders right now

1:12:56

have DeVante Adams who are there obviously

1:12:58

this, you know, I don't think the idea of the trading

1:13:01

him is gone because they got behind him. Yeah,

1:13:04

Jacoby Myers. And then you've got guys like

1:13:06

Trey Tucker, DJ Turner and

1:13:08

Christian Wilkerson. They have nothing

1:13:10

at wide receivers. So I feel like Mike

1:13:12

Williams to Las Vegas, you

1:13:15

know, in your in the same division. It kind

1:13:17

of takes away from the Chargers, Adds to the Raiders

1:13:19

they need a wide receiver and right Church,

1:13:22

wrong Pew.

1:13:23

Why so it's so on brand

1:13:25

for where this team is right now, and this player,

1:13:28

Odell wants to play in Vegas. Odell

1:13:30

Beckham to the Raiders, I

1:13:32

guess better a little more money than you think.

1:13:34

You're Odell though, and you literally

1:13:36

shredded your relationship in Cleveland

1:13:39

because of what you can deemed to be and your

1:13:41

father deemed to be shaky quarterback play. Do

1:13:43

you sign up with a team that right now is Gardner Minshew

1:13:45

and Aidan O'Connell.

1:13:46

He'll go who offers him money.

1:13:47

At this point, I could just see the Raiders being

1:13:50

wanting to get in the Odell business.

1:13:52

Put it that way. I mean, we went angle

1:13:55

the Super.

1:13:55

Bowl at uh in Vegas

1:13:58

this year. You know, did the walk around

1:14:00

the concourse. I always like to do that and see what these

1:14:02

stadiums look at. Beautiful facility, Allegiance

1:14:05

Stadium. But the Raiders are insane

1:14:07

with who they retire, the numbers they retire.

1:14:09

They retired Randy Moss's number.

1:14:11

They didn't retire his number.

1:14:12

They had He's in the ring of whatever they

1:14:15

had they had.

1:14:16

I guess what it was that didn't even go.

1:14:17

Well, it was like any raider that

1:14:19

has ever made the Hall of Fame gets their picture even

1:14:21

though they count they counted Jerry

1:14:23

Rice as a Raider to.

1:14:24

Come on, Well, that's actually tricky because

1:14:27

Beckham he should be he should

1:14:29

be going to the Hall of Fame, but he just kind of his career

1:14:31

he didn't. Injuries played a role, but

1:14:33

he never reached the full potential of

1:14:35

what he was, which was a beautiful, perfect wide

1:14:37

receiver early in his career. So but I

1:14:39

still like they love big name brands. They always

1:14:42

have al loved it. His

1:14:44

son Mark loves it. So that's my prediction.

1:14:47

I'm going to go with the trade. I'm going to go with

1:14:49

Marshawn Lattimore go into

1:14:52

the New England Patriots in a

1:14:54

deal. I think Ron Wolf I

1:14:56

feel better. It feels like there's an adult in the room

1:14:58

now with the Patriots in terms of how to

1:15:00

run a team. And I think

1:15:02

their defense looks quite good on paper,

1:15:05

and they're going to look for any

1:15:07

value and they can afford it.

1:15:09

Like they didn't.

1:15:09

They didn't find the right players to spend

1:15:11

a lot of money. But Marshawn Lattimore,

1:15:14

let's say you give up like.

1:15:16

A when there's some there's something about

1:15:18

Latimore hit hitting the.

1:15:19

I think Latimore is going to get traded at

1:15:21

some point. Uh maybe maybe

1:15:23

what happened the next week, Maybe it would happened closer to

1:15:25

the draft, but you might be able to get

1:15:28

away with giving up like a third

1:15:30

round pick for Lattimore or maybe I

1:15:33

don't know.

1:15:34

You know what's going you know Greg's gonna nail this and

1:15:36

then ours are gonna go by the wayside.

1:15:38

That's all. That's that's all.

1:15:41

The earth is a new year, New Year. It's a new

1:15:43

chance for us. How about I believe

1:15:45

it was a draft class mate.

1:15:47

Was Alva, Kamara and Latimore in the same class.

1:15:52

I think that's right.

1:15:53

Both that Mega twenty seventeen class that

1:15:55

revitalized Sean Payton's career in

1:15:57

New Orleans. How about another Saints

1:16:00

Oneamara up

1:16:02

to Denver read team with Sean Payton,

1:16:04

Peyton trying to trying to kind

1:16:07

of get some elements that are familiar to him as he

1:16:09

looks to reboot the machine posts Russ truly

1:16:12

in his vision, and it's not gonna cost

1:16:14

you much because I think Kamorrow at this stage

1:16:17

won't command something big, so like Kamara for a

1:16:19

fifth round or.

1:16:19

Something like that, wow, fourth rounder. Maybe

1:16:22

how about this one? The

1:16:24

g men and Justin

1:16:26

Fields after a bunch

1:16:28

of no one really wants them, we get it. Like at

1:16:31

this point, I'm wondering if the Bears just hold on to

1:16:33

him, it's like he's not a child. If

1:16:35

they draft a rookie, they can coexist. And

1:16:37

then when a team has like their star quarterback

1:16:40

have his knee destroyed, like in Week three, Justin

1:16:42

Field's value goes up because right now his value is very

1:16:44

low. But the g men feel or even the

1:16:46

Patriots feel like a potential

1:16:49

fit. I'm with you.

1:16:49

If I was the Bears and I don't get offered

1:16:52

anything better than like a

1:16:54

fourth and I feel shaky

1:16:56

during the draft, then I would rather

1:16:58

just keep Justin Fields and make

1:17:00

everyone be a grown up and maybe he'll get traded

1:17:03

later on.

1:17:04

I think that's a good one. I don't know about to

1:17:06

the Giants because there just there aren't that many

1:17:08

teams that make sense for Justin Fields. The Giants

1:17:10

are done with Daniel Jones after this season. They

1:17:12

get Drew Locke, but true Locke

1:17:14

is it? But if you hold on to them,

1:17:17

yeah, that makes sense. I think we'll be telling

1:17:20

if you see the Bears add another

1:17:22

backup to the room in the coming

1:17:24

days and weeks, that they might be thinking

1:17:27

about keeping Fields and then having

1:17:29

someone in the building when they move fields.

1:17:31

Maybe in October you just can't have I

1:17:34

think Justin Fields is a tricky QB

1:17:36

two because any

1:17:39

I think what fans love them. I know

1:17:41

these teams don't seem to love them or something about

1:17:43

them, but like teammates do. Teammates do?

1:17:45

But like if Justin Fields is sitting behind

1:17:47

any quarterback, that's struggling on any level.

1:17:49

It's like there's gonna be a problem for the coaching

1:17:52

staff.

1:17:53

We still got stuff out there, but not

1:17:55

as much. It was fast. The insiders

1:17:58

were talking, you know, as part of their.

1:18:00

Seemed today you were on the program today, did

1:18:02

did did they seem to let

1:18:04

you in?

1:18:04

Or was there was there any coldness to

1:18:07

it?

1:18:07

Like? How was it?

1:18:09

I mean it was they let me

1:18:11

in. Certainly they were friendly. I

1:18:13

mean it was pretty much whatever interactions

1:18:16

we had was on the air, because you know, it wasn't too

1:18:18

much before that. But yes, they

1:18:20

were great, and

1:18:23

they were talking about how this really was the fastest

1:18:26

moving I don't know how they could prove this,

1:18:28

but the fastest moving free agency that had ever happened

1:18:30

in terms of the most players and the most signings

1:18:33

coming off the board.

1:18:33

The faster fast. Yeah, because people have been

1:18:36

tampering for like forty five days. I

1:18:38

don't want to hear about this idea that that's

1:18:40

you know, cone of silence until this

1:18:42

false deadline is ushered

1:18:45

in.

1:18:45

I've got eleven players left off

1:18:47

of my top one O one and that was the top one on one

1:18:49

for Monday. If you had gone

1:18:51

back to the original less to be way,

1:18:53

way way.

1:18:54

People are tracking it at this at this pace, Greg,

1:18:56

I know they're looking at every transaction on the NFL

1:18:58

dot com website.

1:19:00

Didn't get him a chip, should have gotten into a super

1:19:02

Bowl, but they got robbed by the officials. But

1:19:04

that twenty seventeen Saints draft

1:19:06

class Marshawn Lattimore first

1:19:08

round, Ryan Ramcheck first round,

1:19:11

Marcus Williams second round, Alvin Kamara third

1:19:13

round, Ray Hendrickson, third round,

1:19:16

Alex Anzeloni and the

1:19:18

sixth pick.

1:19:19

The Saints have also had a couple

1:19:22

of disastrous first round selections

1:19:25

in.

1:19:25

That is that it really is an

1:19:28

all time draft, ultimate.

1:19:29

Reset that whole organization with Drew Brees.

1:19:31

Finally, I mean Hendrickson's the third round

1:19:34

pick, Muhammed, Actually you meant

1:19:36

just mentioned as this. Even the sixth round pick had a nice

1:19:38

career who ended up being in Indianapolis.

1:19:40

But like that's it's

1:19:42

a crazy draft. It's like Mickey

1:19:45

Loomis actually is focused on the team at

1:19:47

Verse Junk it was back then.

1:19:48

You know who's playing well right now? The Pelicans. I guess that's

1:19:50

our time to.

1:19:51

Uh yeah, whenever the Pelicans come up.

1:19:53

All right, thank you everybody, We'll be back

1:19:55

on Friday if something warrants it.

1:19:57

But don't hold your breath.

1:20:00

It's gotta be big, gotta be.

1:20:02

We had for president.

1:20:04

We had a Deshaun Watson one a couple.

1:20:06

Of years ago. He's not stealing my Friday.

1:20:08

He's a call

1:20:12

H