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Be Around the NFL Podcast

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with the small Talk. Welcome

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to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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My name is Dan Hansens.

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That come to you from a virtual room filled with

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some heroes, Mark Sessler, Rank

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Rosenthal. Oh

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boys, oh boys, I

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got some developing news, developing

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news right

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out the gate. I'm waiting

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for some sound effects out here, are you go? I

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love this song. You

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know, it's been a while since the Around the NFL Podcast

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has been recognized in the

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market. The

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recognition has arrived in a

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big spot. Run that

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again, Ricky. We want that, We we want that underneath,

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we want a long bed of the developing

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news from NBC with Tom

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ballholl the

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Synopsis Sports Media Awards.

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We are nominated because best

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Podcast Series. How

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about that? How about

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that? Well, it's deserved,

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it's overdue. Um

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And if anything, we go in with a bit of a chip

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on our shoulder because this should have been like our

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you know, we're we should be collecting rings.

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And it's taken about, um

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almost a decade for this to materialize.

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But I can appreciate it. And Huddle and Flow got

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um nominated as well. Steve Weich Jim

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Trotter for the best New Podcast

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category. I believe let's take

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it. Let's take it category we are familiar

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with. We were best New podcast

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in the Sports division for Apple Podcasts

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way back in. But now Greg,

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now it's best podcast series. And here's

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who we're up against, digging up

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the past with Christopher Russo, the

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mad dog himself serious XM

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golfs subpar, Yeah, subpar

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is right, golf dot Com

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heavy media inside the only

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I will only throw jade at the random golf podcast

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heavy metals inside the Kowari Gymnastics

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Empire. It's ESPN and ww

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E the New Day Feel the Power that's not

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even a real sport should not be in our category.

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Let's fly. Wait what I

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um? I'm really looking

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forward to the awards ceremony.

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That'll be fun. Um,

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Like, are we going out for the synopsis,

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the big synopsis? Yeah,

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let's do it. It's been too long. I I used to

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I like to think of us as kind of the like

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the two and a half men of the podcast,

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you know, realm. It's like not

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really critically popular, but hugely

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successful, like major ratings,

2:53

Like we don't really get respect um

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from our colleagues, but we just

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deliver. Hue hGe numbers at like

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eight pm on CBS. You

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know that's us

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showed Jackass or something like. We are appealing

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heavily to a certain set subset.

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I couldn't. I couldn't think of that other one where they're

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scientists. That's what I was really going for. Uh

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no big bang theory. I don't know whether

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the Jackass that that's different marks, but I

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know I know what you're saying. Greg. It's

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like kind of like the TV shows I

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never ever ever want to watch in my entire

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life. So if that's who we are in this in the

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podcast game, that's kind of a rough sitch in

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a big spot for our show. But you

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know, some people say, oh, it's just an

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honor to be nominated. Screw that we

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don't win. I'm burning this mother down. Okay,

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okay, all this equipment here that the

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NFL has provided, it's all going up in flames.

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Now you have to go in with an act of fire, and

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we have a there's a certain element of fury

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to us at this point. Again, we should

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be winning our six or seventh um

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on multiple platforms, this this

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venue but others as well. So, Uh,

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we are taking no prisoners. Get

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a stern email from rog.

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He's like, hey, bro, I heard you burned

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all the equipment you owe us D

4:11

dollars and you're fired. And I'm like, did

4:14

you see we got snubbed by the sign ops he'd

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understand. You'd

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be like, oh, I see, give me, you adapt

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me and to hug me. So today's show good

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one. It happens every year.

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Now that we're in the Is this the third wave of free

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agency? Greig? Is that? Where do you when

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do you graduate from second wave to third wave of

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free agency? I think this is it.

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When there's essentially only one or

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two minor moves a day, it's it's

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died off. We're into the third wave. Okay.

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So now that we're in the third wave of free agency

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and we're you know, the calendar just turned

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over to April, that's time for the Gray

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Beards. Yes, the collection

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of in some people's minds,

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over the Hill gang players

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who were once um highly sought

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after and useful players who have yet

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to find a home. And they do find

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a home with my team, the Gray Beards,

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and we will unveil well,

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I wouldn't say well, unveil the roster, because

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what I'm really good. The store article doesn't

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go up till Monday. It was gonna be Friday. Now it's Monday.

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I just learned. So it's kind

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of a workshop session here. Uh

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and uh. And we have a special guest that

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I will get to a little bit later that's gonna help

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me put together the Gray Beards because

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it's very open. It's very important Mark

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in this process to not play

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hero ball. When you're putting together the roster. You

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should listen to other voices and a lot of

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things in life, it's smart to hear what other

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people have to say. And the Gray Beards are no exception.

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Well, it's a collaboration. Um, and

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I'm start that far.

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It's my show. I'm okay,

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But I want to use your brain, that big

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old brain in the Sessler skull. But

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if we if we are spending our time,

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uh contributing and building your article, I'm

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certain that the byeline would at least

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include like a big investigative report.

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You know there's multiple

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Well, at least at the bottom will say something like

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Greg Rosenthal contributed to this article,

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Mark Cecil and our special guest. If

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not, then I would have some questions

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about the ethical nature of your

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your work, your project. All right, how

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about to make a deal at

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the end of the segment on today's show. If

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I feel that you have

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contributed in a truly meaningful

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way, you're getting that tagline

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goes for you. That's good. Let's

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and you can announce those results at the end.

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Well, I already know how this will go, all

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right, So anyway gray beards a little later in the show

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before that, though, and good luck boys

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with the sign ops. Um,

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I think we've earned this one. It's been a while.

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We got the trophy from Apple. That was a big win. Don't

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know where that trophy is, by the way,

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won the stitcher was stolen by our own producer.

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Um, So that one's gone. If

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we went a sign op, it is going in the

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new NFL Network studio behind a

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piece of glass, baby and a lock. All

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I got up, let's

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hit the news. If

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I go home and say I'm gonna do it, will be don't

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do it. If I post, it'll be don't do it.

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If I'm talking to my frands, if you don't

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do it, don't my business, I be like, don't do it.

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But I gotta do what I

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want to do it for myself. Man, you know, you're the

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only one who knows we're just gonna

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show them, and you would have backed that the climb

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here, Oh

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my goodness, he did it. Michael Strahand

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filled in the gap, and I mean,

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so many thoughts on this mark. I'm curious so

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that what you just heard. There was a video

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straight hand put up on the social media platforms

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that was probably on Access Hollywood or something as well.

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I don't know the source on it. But he was in

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a cosmetic dentistry chair and

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that iconic gap between his two front teeth

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has been sealed off and now he has gleaming

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pearly whites. Your thoughts,

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well, I mean, you know, different bodies, different

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needs. Uh, he has the right

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to do what he wants to do with his

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with his look, his vibe.

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And he was a handsome man. He's a

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very handsome man. Now, um,

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he's a television he's bordering into

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the worlds of lower iconic

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television presenter slash host guy.

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So you know there's probably some put

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that on your resume. Well well,

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I was going to say icon but that feels

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that feels heavy. But you know what, like,

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um, I mean, we all we go to the

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meeting at the lower icon meetings,

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like who else is a lower icon? Like,

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hey, Rachel Ray is here, She's just

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a nicon, She's an icon. I say, his

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choice, his body kind

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of now that one, I think Rachel Ray is right

8:52

in that group. Go ahead. I

8:56

have no further thoughts. Again, it's his freedom

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to do as he wishes with his physical

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being. No,

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I had a couple. I mean, first of all, everyone wants

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to kill him for it. He obviously

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it was something that he felt, you

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know, would make him feel better about himself.

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Let's start there. And so to me, that's fine

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because I don't think obviously, um,

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that is something probably he had issues with

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as a child, and maybe who knows, maybe

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he's been teased in his life, and then it became

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something he was famous for and maybe he still wasn't comfortable

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with it. My other thought on the matter is I

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wonder if and now I'm gonna take it more

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to the New York sports realm. He's

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not the only famous New York athlete

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to do this. The spring, Aaron

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Judge Um, the star right

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fielder for the Yankees. Um

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had a gap between his teeth too, And I

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remember going to a Yankee game two

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summers ago, before the pandemic, and I was

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with my cousin Matt, and I

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pointed it, a big photo of Aaron Judge

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Um at a train station. I

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said, you know, that gap between his teeth, that might be

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the only thing separating him from being the most

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marketable star in New York, which you

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you're calling me shallow, but I'm talking about marketing.

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And because he's already good looking guy. And

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my cousin Matt said, well that, you know, because

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my cousin has a little bit of a gap. To my cousin

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like, well, that was the thing that I really you

10:16

know, I always thought that was cool that he had it too, And he was

10:18

like me, so Judge

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gets it filled in, and I wonder stray Hanson's

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judged to it, and he's like, well, Judge did it.

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Why can't I do it? And

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maybe, you say, gives away a little of his identity

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perhaps, but I guess it made the man happy.

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Right now, I'm worried about your cousin. I mean,

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he just lost like the two pillars

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of the gap tooth in

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one in one week. It's not been a it's not

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a good week. For My

10:44

immediate thought was did he finally get an

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offer he couldn't refuse because this

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is all just a commercial. It wasn't I it wasn't made

10:51

from Access Hollywood. It was it was

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a commercial made for that dentist and

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it and it was kind of like a somewhat

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cheaply made but it was like a social media

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commercial ultimately. And

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just imagine the offers that Mike

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dray Hand has gotten over the years from

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cosmetic dentists in the New York

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area over the last twenty years, he said, he

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said no to all of them. How

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much you know money did

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Michael Strahand get paid to

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fix his teeth? What an American dream?

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I would like. I would like some free dental care,

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much less getting paid for it. I mean that

11:26

that would that could not have been a low price.

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I I imagine he got paid an extreme

11:32

amount of money to do that. And

11:34

uh, you know, he maybe feels a little bitter about himself

11:37

too, obviously. That's that's a big factor. I

11:39

think you're onto something there, Greg, I mean, we did this was

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an ad. It was a paid advertisement. I

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would guess he got millions of dollars for that

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from that from that cosmetic dentist.

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It reminds me when we went to a media

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summit UM in NFL Network Media

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Summit UM a couple of years back, and

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uh, one very famous NFL

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figure who was notorious

12:00

Lee Bald for a long time suddenly had

12:02

a full head

12:04

of really useful hair. And

12:07

I'm sure that. I mean it was on TV. He

12:09

can say it was Dion. He came on TV

12:11

and it was a big plot that year for him. Yeah.

12:14

And I was literally sitting next to Dion at

12:16

that summit, which in its own right was interesting.

12:21

No, he had no idea, he didn't.

12:23

He was like, why is this like um

12:25

tech advisor sitting next to me during this

12:27

thing? But he but I could not figure out

12:29

why he looks so in strikingly different

12:32

to me for the first half of the day. And then

12:34

I realized that that he has somehow suddenly

12:36

grown an entire head of hair. So

12:39

the things you can do now, there are some things that people

12:41

do um cosmetically, and you know, Dana

12:43

and I discusses that we do not agree with, but

12:46

I agree with some of these other things. When Dion

12:48

got his hair done, it

12:50

wasn't just um, you know, a little

12:53

patch up, you know, as as West was known

12:55

to say. It wasn't like it wasn't just filling

12:57

in the power alleys, you know, or

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he wasn't taking care of a crop circle in the back.

13:02

He showed up and he was seventeen years old

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again from the forehead up, and

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I remember being legitimately, you

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know, blown away by the whole thing. But it's

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kind of a dream though, like mad you

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you have to get to us. There's certain levels.

13:17

I would say Strahan is just icon at

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this point. You know, uh,

13:21

there're certainly Dion would be too. Once

13:23

you get to a certain status, what

13:26

what a dream that you can get paid

13:28

in a you know, incredible amounts

13:31

of money for your own self improvement,

13:33

things that you would normally just have to pay, you

13:35

know, a lot for to him. When

13:38

you get rich and famous, that's when

13:40

you start getting everything for free, you know,

13:42

when you don't really necessarily need things

13:44

at the same level. Well, that's

13:46

something to aspire. Two boys, All right, let's

13:49

do some news. Whenever

13:51

our guest shows up, by the way, throw him in the room. Yeah,

13:54

I mean I got a little chip from playing hockey

13:56

when I was tending, so hit me up. Dentists

13:59

the bed Western Massachusetts

14:02

on the ice, Greg Rosenthal, you messed with my winger

14:06

because I was bad at skating, you know? Was

14:08

that in a rink or like on an actual if you're

14:10

a real tough guy, you do it. Was I

14:13

barely played on a rink. I did not last

14:16

by then I did a little bit of a rink and

14:18

was like check please, But I did some pond hockey

14:22

the Seahawks. Seahawks have signed Tyler Lockett

14:24

to a four year, sixty nine point two million

14:26

dollar contract extension. Thirty

14:28

seven of that million is

14:31

guaranteed. So there

14:33

you have it, Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf

14:35

locked in. Locket will be twenty nine

14:38

uh this season. In September, he

14:41

went over a hundred catches for the first time this

14:43

year, but he wasn't the same

14:45

playmaker in terms of yards per catch.

14:48

That kind of went over to the DK Metcalf

14:50

side of things. Um, Greg,

14:52

I guess you can make the case this is a steep

14:55

price to pay for Tyler

14:57

Lockett, especially as we've talked about this is a

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team that has a lot of financial decisions

15:02

to make. But when you have lock It and

15:04

DK together, if you're looking for a

15:07

rock solid one

15:09

two punch of wide receiver. There are a few that

15:11

could touch that group, that pair, I believe. Yeah,

15:15

catches an eighteen touchdowns too for a little guy

15:17

over the last two years combined. I've

15:19

always thought he's way better than his

15:21

numbers. He's one of the most fun players

15:24

to watch. So it's one of those times that, yeah, sure

15:26

they paid a premium. I mean he's getting He got as much

15:28

guaranteed almost as Kenny Golladay.

15:30

He got really top money. But I always

15:33

thought his numbers were artificially held

15:35

down in Seattle, and his just

15:37

quality of play, how unique a player he

15:40

is, was really valuable. And he

15:42

could have had if he was on the Chiefs or some team

15:44

like that, his numbers would be even

15:46

better. And he also just seems like an

15:48

affable guy. So it's you know, you're

15:51

always happy to see those guys get paid. I

15:53

guess, like the question I'd have is just

15:55

what kind of offense Seattle will

15:57

be? UM? The let Russ Cook

16:00

is over and it it ended during the middle

16:02

of last year. I mean, there's that nugget that heat

16:04

Lockett was the number one Fantasy

16:07

football receiver UM through

16:09

Week eight and finished as

16:13

because the offense completely changed its

16:15

identity, so there are like

16:17

overt um mysterious

16:20

questions about what they'll become September. I think

16:22

they're going to go back to being more

16:24

run, heavy, more balanced. Well it

16:27

depends, though, it depends if

16:29

they see Russell Wilson as a guy

16:31

that they have to keep happy now and

16:33

play ball with a little bit and change the offense

16:36

in a way that makes Pete Carroll a

16:38

little uncomfortable but also keeps the star

16:40

quarterback happy. That that's see how it's

16:42

kind of a bit of a fascinating science experiment

16:44

all of a sudden going on in that building.

16:47

But they literally fired or parted

16:49

ways with the coordinator. That was

16:51

all about an open to let Russ

16:54

cook, right. They hired a guy that

16:56

Russ you know did. I always

16:58

thought that's gotten lost in the shovel or

17:00

that he helped interview Shane Waldron, the Rams

17:02

coordinator. But the Rams do like to run the ball

17:04

has kind of the foundation of their offense.

17:06

So so so we'll see.

17:08

But I uh like, if if a guy like Lockett's

17:11

not gonna get paid, who is gonna get paid? It lowers

17:13

their cap Like he is a homegrown guy. He's

17:15

he's time to his stay in Seattle

17:17

poorly though. He got there right after the

17:20

Super Bowl appearances. So it's like he, you

17:22

know, get lock it into a super Bowl. In

17:25

other news, the NFL owners approved

17:27

the expansion of the regular season to seventeen

17:29

games on Tuesday. This was

17:32

long expected. We knew that was coming down,

17:34

and now it is. Uh. The

17:37

players agreed to this additional game

17:39

as part of the collective collective bargaining

17:41

agreement that was agreed to last spring.

17:44

Uh. So it goes into effect starting

17:46

in one. The season will begin on

17:49

Thursday night, September nine. The

17:51

Bucks will be prominently involved. The

17:53

Pro Bowl now is the game that takes place on

17:55

the first Sunday in February. Pinch

17:57

yourself, and the Super Bowl here in Los

17:59

ange of Us will take place one week later

18:02

February

18:04

two. And I

18:06

mean, I couldn't think of a better news item. Uh

18:08

to welcome in one

18:11

of the great minds um

18:13

in football writing. He is

18:16

a former bricklayer for Rhoda World

18:18

and now one of the bosses that established

18:21

the run. You know who it is, the big Fish,

18:23

Evan Silva, buddy, what's

18:26

up? And also, uh, this has

18:28

got it? This is rocking the fantasy world. I mean, a

18:30

fourteen week regular season, not own

18:32

it's it's a big deal. It's a big deal

18:34

in real life and in fantasy football.

18:37

I think that a nice compromise

18:39

would have been to add an extra bye week to

18:42

each team. And you know that that would have

18:44

expanded the regular season even further

18:46

and made and further made the billionaire owners

18:48

even richer. Um. And it would have also,

18:51

um, you know, been a compromise that might have

18:53

benefited the players for you know, the for the

18:56

the way that it impacts their bodies, and it

18:58

would have taken a little bit of of a loan load off

19:01

my plate too, because I

19:03

love the bye weeks in the way that they affect my

19:05

schedule week to week. But there's

19:08

been seemingly no discussion of

19:10

adding an additional bye week. But

19:12

um hey, you know, big big win for the owners

19:14

and you know, the rich get richer. Go America.

19:19

Uh yeah, never don't talk to Silva.

19:21

The week that the bye week's run

19:23

out. That's Evan Silva's least favorite

19:25

week of the year. Like when you when

19:27

you have those two less games

19:30

uh to cover, to prepare

19:32

for to watch during the week to

19:35

rank. It's like life is great in fantasy

19:38

Land, and then they come they come back in week twelve

19:40

or thirteen, whatever it is, and it's it's full

19:42

slate, and Silva's just like, leave me alone

19:46

exactly right. December is just

19:48

hell month. Well, you know,

19:50

you could have a job outside of fantasy

19:52

and actually worked during January and February

19:55

and like go straight through the Super Bowl, which now,

19:57

yeah, it's that's the biggest change. We've

19:59

been doing this all a long time. And so just

20:01

that big of an adjustment that we're going to go through

20:04

mid February is uh will

20:06

be different. I just want to know how it changes the

20:08

rest of the off season, Like, does it how

20:10

it changes the preseason? The Hall of Fame game I

20:12

did check is scheduled on a certain day. But

20:15

are they pushing the preseason, which

20:17

is now three weeks back a week or

20:19

is there gonna be an empty week

20:22

before the regular season starts. That makes

20:24

more sense to me personally. And are they gonna push

20:27

back the combine and

20:29

free agency because if they don't that

20:32

stuff they it already felt like it comes

20:34

up quick. You basically it's basically two weeks

20:36

to the combine. If it's one week to the combine

20:38

like that is a different feel to the

20:40

off sea And they haven't announced that stuff though,

20:42

so we don't know yet. I would ask you, Evan though, like

20:44

from a from a fantasy angle, what

20:47

was the first thing you thought beyond your

20:49

own scheduling, Like strategy wise, does

20:51

it change anything at all? Strategy wise?

20:54

You're just adding one week of a

20:56

regular season play, right, And

20:58

we we kind of we knew that it was, um,

21:01

but then it became official and now I

21:04

don't I honestly, I don't know. You know, who's gonna

21:06

make the decisions regarding that are

21:08

going to be like the big corporations

21:11

that run the actual fantasy provider

21:13

sites like ESPN and Yahoo, um,

21:16

and you know f f PC, and

21:19

that's gonna be who makes those decisions, not not

21:21

the fantasy analysts. The fantasy answers are just gonna

21:23

have to roll with the punches. Very

21:26

interesting to see how it all plays

21:28

out. And UM, I'm a little

21:30

annoyed. I this is something that I didn't

21:33

really think about until this week. But yeah,

21:35

it does change personal you

21:37

know, records for the NFL going forward,

21:40

and it's it's not the same in the NFL is

21:42

that is in other sports in terms of single season

21:44

record. But you know, Derrick

21:46

Henry is an example. He was the eighth

21:48

player to ever run for two thousand, two

21:50

thousand yards. Isn't just it's not gonna be the same anymore

21:53

because you've seen plenty of guys, well maybe not plenty,

21:55

but you know run for eighteen hundred yards

21:57

and sixteen it's you're gonna see more more

21:59

like that. But one that really annoys me, Silva,

22:01

and I know you're one of your your curmudgeon

22:04

and we love you for it, but this one gets

22:06

me fired up. That

22:08

damn Michael Strahan record, the

22:10

sack record. We talked about him earlier,

22:13

he got his teeth done. I'm fine with that. I'll never be

22:15

fine with Brett Fard

22:17

slide in a slide on his feet and that record

22:19

now stands forever. In a sixteen game season,

22:22

nobody could break it. Yet twenty years

22:24

NFL to wipe that record

22:27

away and you couldn't do it. And I'll

22:29

never forgive you, just like I've always thought with the

22:31

Jets, if I if if I go my whole

22:33

life and I never get to watch the

22:35

Super Bowl with my dad, I will never forgive

22:37

the Jets and the clock's taken. I

22:40

will never forgive all the defensive ends.

22:43

Uh that that

22:46

we're unable to get the sack record away

22:48

from stray hands. Grasp, that's an expansive

22:50

bounty list all the defensive ends

22:53

in edge rushers out there, thousands

22:55

of humans. Well what if and when they do break

22:58

it, no one's gonna put an asterick. I mean,

23:00

I've seen a lot of stuff this week too. It's like, well,

23:02

maybe change it to per game records,

23:05

and it's you know, watering down these records

23:07

that basically ignores everything that happens

23:09

in the NFL. Before night,

23:11

every generation is going to get the like, no

23:14

one's cared when you've broken the record rushing

23:17

records when they were set before

23:19

seventy eight, or passing records. No one ever

23:21

is like, well they did that in fourteen games. Sometimes

23:23

they mentioned it, but it doesn't really I'm

23:26

saying it doesn't really change anything. No one.

23:28

No one was giving a big asterick about

23:31

Drew Brees all this time because he got

23:33

to play way more games than everyone. Uh.

23:38

Greg says, something doesn't really matter. I'm

23:41

not saying it doesn't matter, but tell

23:43

me about it. What does anyone bring that up? When

23:45

they when they were saying the Ravens are the greatest rushing

23:48

team of all time, they would give a little

23:50

pop to the who was it the Bills

23:52

or the Patriot? I think it was a Patriots back in the seventies,

23:54

But like ultimately, no one gave it

23:56

an asterix that it was done in fourteen games

23:59

people, bene. I just wanted to recall

24:01

that that year that Shack Barrett almost broke the

24:03

sack record in assessor predicted that he would

24:05

finish with like four sacks. Well, you

24:08

know, there is no end to the things

24:10

that I've been slightly or vastly incorrect

24:13

about, but that stands out as one of the

24:15

shinier mistakes made

24:18

in other news. Washington

24:20

football team coach Ron Rivera

24:24

said, Ryan, by the way, I'm

24:26

sorry to keep on getting sidetracked here. It's

24:28

really dark, but I have cornhole on

24:31

ESPN to Dvard from last summer,

24:33

and I had saved it because I wanted to watch

24:35

it with my offer mentioned old man Keith,

24:37

who was in town. They just flew out Keith and deb back

24:40

to New York today and in

24:42

the ticker for this cornhole event

24:44

that I saved on my DVR for a year.

24:47

UM. It said it was talking about

24:49

the name change of the Washington football team, and

24:51

it said that Rivera, Ron Rivera

24:54

and Daniel Sinder said they're very close on a

24:56

name and they're ready getting

24:58

close to announcing the name. They hope to have it ready

25:00

for so

25:03

now they never did that and now they're not gonna have

25:05

it for one either. They said. Now they're pushing

25:08

back too, a little bit weird.

25:10

So they had a name they were ready to roll with, and

25:12

then they pulled the reins back. Maybe you guys are onto

25:14

something here that they're into w f T. I

25:17

don't know. I think they are into w f

25:19

T uh more like w TF

25:21

UM. Ron nailed it. Ron Rivera said Ryan

25:23

Fitzpatrick will open camp as the number one

25:26

quarterback, but quote, there will be

25:28

a competition. Who

25:30

will be competing Mr

25:32

Silva with Ryan Fitzpatrick. They better not pull

25:35

the rug out on this man. I want to see him start fourteen

25:38

to seventeen games this year. Well, you know, Taylor

25:40

Heineke and Kyle Allen followed.

25:43

Scott Turner from Carolina and

25:45

Taylor Heineke played pretty well in that um the

25:47

playoff loss to to Tampa Bay kind

25:50

of you know, gave themselves and and they signed it to

25:52

an extension after the season. But

25:54

I mean, this is gonna be the Ryan Fitzpatrick show. This

25:56

is just you know, classic coach speak. He

25:59

said he really regretted not having

26:01

the competition he wanted last year for Rivera

26:04

that he is sort of FATA company

26:06

for Dwayne Haskins winning the job and that was a

26:08

mistake, and then he wants to do a real competition.

26:11

Can you imagine a worse guy behind

26:14

you? If your tailor Heineke, who I think is an

26:16

interesting prospect, but you're

26:18

gonna go through the storm with into some degree and

26:20

you've got Ryan Fitzpatrick's on the bench.

26:23

I mean, it just is it's an unpleasant

26:25

um scenario because the fans are gonna

26:27

be going nuts for the bearded man. You

26:30

think that's unpleasant when you see that with the gray beards

26:32

choices are at quarterback. Uh fore

26:35

you're gonna be vomiting wildly.

26:38

Um anyway, Mark, you

26:41

have been going nuts lately. I mean, in general,

26:43

I've never seen you in a more professional place than you are

26:46

right now between all the camera stuff that you're

26:48

fired up about working with people behind

26:50

the scenes to give us the best look for

26:52

our television show. On top of that, every

26:55

time we get a text for Mark now, it's

26:57

like I've been watching NFL Network. There's some interesting

26:59

things going on here. I've been reading this.

27:01

You are very plugged in right now, Mark, and

27:04

uh the pro days, you've been watching

27:06

those, So we want to now move out of the way. Everybody

27:08

step aside. Mark, your thoughts

27:11

breakdown the Justin Fields and Mac

27:13

Jones pro days. Please, Well,

27:15

the table has been set in a way where I'm gonna

27:17

disappoint. But um, I watched them

27:19

lead to in a in a leisurely fashion.

27:22

Um and I I my text to you guys

27:24

watching Mac Jones was, am

27:26

I supposed to be blown away by this guy? You

27:29

know, Evan, We're not big college football observers,

27:31

so it's like, you know, I couldn't pick him

27:33

out of a lineup a week ago, but now I understand

27:35

a little bit more about him. And I mean my takeaway

27:37

from the Mac Jones thing is that he whiffed

27:39

on that one deep ball. Um and and

27:42

this is a sterile setting. He whiffs on the

27:44

deep ball and Immediately Twitter is going crazy

27:46

with Kyle Shanahan, who you know, flew

27:48

there very with the buzzes from from

27:50

schefter, from Daniel Jeremiah, from

27:53

Ian that it would not be a surprise if they

27:55

go mac Jones at number three. So he goes

27:57

to the Pro Day, which is an unusual move for Shanahan,

27:59

and they capture his look after he whipps on that

28:01

deep ball and it was just like and

28:04

they also had one of Belichick as well, looking

28:07

a little bit mystified, so um to

28:09

me, I like what Daniel Jeremiah said. It was kind of like

28:11

going to a driving range and you're watching

28:13

Matt Jones work on a short game. But then

28:16

you go see justin fields and he is just dropping

28:18

bombs. And I think we can all

28:21

tell when you watch someone throw who

28:23

has that special gift. And I get it.

28:25

It's a Pro Day, And I'll never forget the way

28:27

that West viewed Pro Days in general, just sort of said

28:29

throw this thing. You know, it is what it is,

28:32

and it's it's not overhype it. But he

28:34

looked beautiful throwing the ball. I thought he did a

28:36

wonderful job. Also, Matt Jones has like my

28:39

body um, like he has a

28:41

belly, it's like please, and like the fields

28:44

looks like he

28:47

had a four four four forty that's how

28:49

he started it. Then he's throwing bombs all over the field.

28:52

And there was one thing, because I have to be honest

28:54

with all the stuff that's happened in our lives, um

28:57

since the Super Bowl, that I

28:59

had been a little burnt out. I've just kind of been looking

29:02

for that spark to kind of get get the engine

29:04

going okay. And Daniel Jeremiah

29:06

had a comment at the end of Fields

29:09

pro day that said, basically, and I'm paraphrasing,

29:12

just enjoy this. It's like watching

29:14

an an NBA slam dunk competition. It's

29:16

a pro day. We get it. It's not in a

29:18

hostile environment. But if you can't watch

29:21

Justin Fields throwing those passes

29:23

and if you can enjoy it, you've got to check

29:25

yourself out the door. And it, honestly, was this thing

29:27

that kind of a light that broke through and made

29:30

me just enjoy the experience of

29:32

watching this incredible athlete throwing

29:34

these passes. I think he's going to be an incredibly fascinating

29:37

prospect. That's my comments.

29:39

M hmm, what do you think, syl It you've

29:41

been a draft nick a long time. Is

29:44

Mark taking your corner?

29:47

No? I think that he had an excellent breakdown

29:49

of the situations across the board. It's

29:52

still straine belief to me at

29:54

the end of the day that the forty Niners

29:56

would surrender what they did, which amounts to

29:58

three first round picks and a third

30:00

round pick to go draft Mac Jones

30:03

ahead of Justin Fields and trade Lance because

30:05

justin Fields, I mean, I think mac Jones might be a solid

30:08

quarterback, you know, I think maybe he's a

30:10

little bit better than Andy Dalton potentially.

30:13

Um. But Justin Fields and Trade

30:15

Lance are just on different tiers when

30:18

it comes to all around skill set. And we've

30:20

seen we've seen the way that the NFL has been moving trending

30:23

over the last five ten years, and

30:26

what Justin Fields and Trade Lands bring to the table I

30:28

think is clearly superior. And

30:30

then what than what Matt Jones has in his

30:33

toolbox? And now we're here, you know,

30:35

the forty nine is potentially keeping

30:37

Jimmy Garoppolo, which they can technically

30:39

afford to do. Um, and then he

30:41

would be the Alex Smith table center you

30:43

know, the bridge and then justin fields

30:45

or trade lance would be the Patrick Mahomes to

30:47

come in and and get them to the to the mountaintop.

30:51

So silva. If you're doing a mock today, who

30:53

do you have at three? I mean, mock

30:55

drafts are different because you're trying to

30:57

actually get you know, peg X

31:00

with players with teams.

31:03

So I think I would actually be on mac Jones.

31:05

But it's still you

31:07

know, I think things can change. We're

31:10

still we're still guessing at this point. The

31:12

thing is that so many insider schefter

31:14

Mortensen, Jeremiah, guys

31:16

that know way more than us have

31:19

made this connection between mac Jones and the forty

31:21

niners and and if you're if you're

31:23

doing a projection right now, I think

31:25

you actually put mac Jones on the forty niners and number

31:27

three, Thank you fair. Although I think we should

31:30

like hold off on did like killing

31:32

the pick until the pick happens industry.

31:34

It's like, imagine

31:37

the wasting of the time of

31:39

the mac Jones pick, Like if they don't take

31:41

mac Jones that it almost feels like people

31:43

are already killing was space.

31:47

That's part of this too, you know. Chris Sims

31:49

is another guy that they say very close

31:51

relationship with Kyle Shanahan, and he's

31:53

been pounding the table that that's where mac

31:56

Jones is going. You just wonder what that all means.

31:58

Same thing, you know, although then

32:00

wasn't Kyle Shanahan was asked about his relationship

32:03

with Chris Simms, and then it

32:05

was like, I haven't talked to that guy in years. He

32:09

didn't say that, he said, he said, I know

32:12

that he talks to everyone. That's why I don't

32:14

tell him anything anymore. Like that. Well,

32:17

I like if I

32:19

tattooed your initials Evan onto

32:21

my body with that um incline

32:24

you to spend more time with me or less. I

32:27

mean, that would just be really weird. Tessler.

32:29

You know, I don't have to be weird for Christims to

32:31

do that. Also, well, he probably he just got

32:34

a Kyle Fanahan tattoo. It was like a group

32:36

of four of them who all got each other, So

32:39

I like the other. Like lest

32:44

Finally in the news, Cult McCoy lands

32:46

on his feet. He signs a

32:48

one year deal with the Arizona Cardinals, most

32:51

recently with the Giants. He's bounced around a

32:53

lot. Really, the best thing about Cult McCoy

32:55

is his connection to the Sessler family.

32:58

Let's let's be honest with this, and it's the only reason where talking

33:00

about him right now, well right

33:02

and if you if for those that don't know, Um,

33:05

I Cole McCoy and his father wrote

33:08

a dual biography about

33:10

fatherhood and growing up and it really affected

33:12

me. And he was the Brown's quarterback at the time, and I kind

33:14

of just liked Colt McCoy's overall

33:16

persona. I get that he's not, you know, devastating

33:19

the world as a player, but um, when

33:21

it came time to name our second son, I really

33:23

liked the idea of cult Cessler because Sessler

33:26

is the last name where you've gotta have us, you've

33:28

gotta be good with the first name. So

33:30

he's Culton right now, but it would probably become called

33:32

at some point. Anyways, Um, the day

33:34

he was born, literally on the day of the first round

33:37

of the NFL draft back in so

33:40

I name him Cult McCoy, called

33:42

Cessler. And then at that night the Browns

33:45

select Brandon Weeden, like four

33:47

or five hours after so it was so you

33:49

know, anyways, what I would say about Cult McCoy from

33:51

the player's side, he's suddenly thirty

33:54

five years old, and I think he's a survivor

33:56

because he's not a starter. But he's

33:58

been making that backup, my me and good money for a

34:00

long time. It's not wound up being a

34:03

bad career at all. And he had that

34:05

game with Cleveland where he absolutely

34:08

devastated the New England Patriots and

34:10

the whole team did, and it looked like Tom

34:12

Brady was on psilocybin that day. He

34:14

had a look a thousand yards stare that I've never seen

34:16

from him ever again. So there are good We've

34:19

heard about that game many times on this podcast,

34:22

but that no, it's we've

34:25

talked about it before. Sometimes all takes is a good

34:28

year or filling in as an injury replacement

34:30

for a month, and you seem to just hang around if

34:33

I think it helps, if you're if you have good

34:35

relationships across the league, as I'm sure Cult McCoy

34:37

does as well. That's what's happening

34:41

in the news,

34:44

Ricky hit it pretty

34:54

bits. We're

34:58

gonna see good day, great

35:08

beds. Just

35:11

give us one last sake. We're

35:21

here today, gone tomorrow.

35:24

Will you watch your follow You

35:29

don't mean I cannot play

35:36

you will see me lead the way.

35:43

Gray beards never go away,

35:50

gray bids never go away.

35:59

And it's over in the house for

36:03

the gray beard. Are

36:08

you ready? I wanted you to be on for

36:10

that song. I needed you to be on

36:13

for that song because I wanted you to get in the head space

36:15

freestyle that No, that's

36:18

that was That was well written, written

36:20

well over a year ago. Not well written, and

36:23

Ricky Ricky did all the instrumentation

36:25

on it. That's not true, but

36:29

that I like. Um, I like to do

36:31

that song because I feel like he gets us in a lot of the space.

36:33

Because these are players, the gray

36:35

beards, who have something left

36:38

to offer in the NFL.

36:40

In fact, when this season is over, I believe

36:42

it ends in mid June. This upcoming season,

36:45

Um, you will see some of

36:47

these players have an impact now. Uh,

36:50

Evan's helped us before. I reached

36:53

out to having a couple of years back, maybe three years

36:55

ago now, it was four time Flies, and

36:57

I said, Evan, I'm writing this piece for NFL dot com.

37:00

I was hoping I could uh run

37:02

it by you. I'll send you the list

37:04

my picks and then you could like give me a blurb for

37:06

each positional group whether you think it's any

37:09

good. What I didn't know at the time, because I had

37:11

never worked with Evan was how meticulous

37:13

and how much work and effort he puts into

37:15

everything he does. And I ended up putting the

37:17

guy out in a big spot. I I think he

37:19

was. He ended up writing like half

37:22

a Byeline story for someone else's website and didn

37:24

get paid for it. Big mistake. And

37:26

I apologize. So Evan this year

37:29

obviously, no written work for you, no

37:31

assignment. I just wanted

37:33

you to give me your thoughts as a workshop

37:36

graveyards. Is that okay? And I apologize

37:39

again for what happened a few years back that was

37:42

no, No, don't apologize. I thought you weren't. I

37:44

mean, when you say blurb, I think

37:46

like Rotor World blurb, you know, And

37:49

that's what I had in mind. But I don't

37:51

know you. You're you're such a professional. Just blew

37:54

me away. Um all right, And now the

37:56

second part of this Greg, before we dive in. You've

37:58

held my feet to the five Greg in

38:01

past years because what I had

38:03

done in the past is just

38:05

built the best roster of remaining free

38:08

agents. And uh and

38:10

that's a good way in some ways.

38:12

That that serves a better purpose as

38:15

an article like here's all the best guys left.

38:17

But to truly be about the graybeards, to

38:20

have that grizzled beard,

38:23

to to have the salt and pepper you

38:25

have, you have to actually be over

38:27

the hill in NFL terms. So this year,

38:29

for the first time ever, everyone is

38:31

either thirty or above or

38:34

turns thirty at some point during the regular

38:37

season. Uh So that that banged

38:39

me and the biggest of all spots because, uh,

38:42

some players that are still out there right

38:44

now who could contribute but are

38:46

not yet thirty include James

38:49

Conner, Um, DeMarcus

38:52

Robinson, Adam Humphries, Uh,

38:54

Willie Snee, Jesse James Trey Burton. None

38:56

of these names jump out to you necessarily understand

38:58

that Nick Malan at least

39:01

like four of those are on teams by now too.

39:03

So Marcus Robinson resigned

39:05

with the Chiefs to Washington.

39:08

Yeah, all right, good, well they're they're

39:10

not thirty anyway, for for all intents and purposes,

39:13

they don't exist in this exercise. But please,

39:15

anybody that has signed, um,

39:18

let me know. Uh, here we go. Let's

39:21

dig into it and I'll start a quarterback and It's

39:23

tough, um because uh,

39:27

the bone has been picked here pretty

39:29

clean, and you do have some players

39:31

out there, like I don't even know if Teddy Bridgewater

39:34

is thirty yet, but but Teddy

39:36

is attached to the Panthers still technically,

39:39

So for the quarterback position,

39:42

boys, I have to run back the Redskins

39:44

UH squad of yesteryear. I got Alex

39:47

Smith as my starter, r

39:49

G three that's the

39:51

backup, uh and Geno

39:54

Smith. Colt McCoy well, Col mccoyn

39:56

now off the board, A J. Mccaren um,

39:59

a couple of options. So I went with Smith

40:01

and r G three. What are

40:04

your what are your thoughts there? Well,

40:06

I think if you're looking for leadership and

40:09

playoff experience, he went with the

40:11

wrong. Smith's Geno. Time

40:14

give Geno a franchise if ever is

40:16

he thirty? Now it's finally time for

40:18

Geno to be leading a team at

40:21

thirty. You you give me the choice, Alex

40:23

Smith, Geno Smith. I'm taking

40:25

Gino. The most predictable

40:27

thing right there is that Greg cape for Gino

40:30

again, which he's been doing for a decade.

40:32

Now, when's the last time Gino didn't make

40:35

the playoffs? It's like it's like, you

40:37

know, he had to be stuck on an organization like

40:39

the Jets to keep him out of the playoffs. Everywhere

40:41

else he goes, they make it. If I need a guy to

40:43

win a coin toss, Gino is there. But I

40:45

just how often do you really need that? Mark? No,

40:48

I even every guy isn't

40:50

even clearly a skill of his. That's that's just based

40:53

on luck. And I find it absurd that

40:55

Greg is still doing this. Um and

40:57

this is a rare case. This is a rare case

40:59

where right, I actually have a point. I don't

41:01

think Gino is any worse than these guys I have. I

41:04

think, you knowed leadership

41:06

as the first bullet point under on Gino

41:08

Smith's resume. So I has a end. The guy

41:10

has a wired jaw exactly

41:14

leadership. I mean, let's keep

41:16

that in mind. What's lost that Geno Smith threw a

41:18

pass that mattered in

41:20

that game against the Raiders after Ben

41:23

McAdoo benched Eli Manning, and

41:26

then I played Gino Smith in

41:28

DFS and then uh

41:30

that did not go well. No, r

41:34

G three, you know RJ three he was. He

41:37

hasn't looked good. I really would take Gino and McCarron

41:40

even maybe three is finished.

41:42

I felt bad when r G three try to open it up when

41:44

he got some playing time last year, and the legs were

41:47

just like, nah, we're not We're not going to do this anymore.

41:49

Let me pull r G three out. Should I throw

41:51

Gregor Bond? I almost don't want it because he's a little annoying

41:53

about the Gino thing, but it also

41:55

would made a lot to him. Know, you've got a combustible

41:58

group of people here that are at the end of their careers

42:00

and probably slightly annoyed. You want Geno

42:03

Smith running that show? Evan break

42:05

the deadlock? Geno Smith or A. J. Mccaren is

42:07

back up. I'll go with Gino all

42:10

right. A J. Mccaren, good for you.

42:13

How about that in a big spot If

42:16

you don't think he's gonna be suddenly

42:19

um trying to take that job from Alex

42:22

Smith out from under him. Oh yeah, he's going to

42:24

Ricky. Can you confirm with me that Gino Smith

42:27

is already thirty or turning thirty

42:29

during the regular season? Thank you? Running

42:31

back. Okay, there was a coach you know

42:33

who made the news recently who was was

42:36

was all on board trying to trade

42:39

a couple of Day two picks for AJ McCarron

42:41

not too long ago. Yes, there was that

42:46

where it's glad some some things don't work out

42:48

for a great reason. Uh yeah, Gino turns

42:50

thirty on October tenth. Where does the time go?

42:53

That's my birthday. That's that's not good

42:57

running It's also Brett Farve's birthday. But we'll

42:59

leave it there. Running

43:01

back. Okay, So tough situation here. This

43:03

team sucks. I gotta say sometimes

43:05

I feel good about after you had great

43:07

quarterbacks all the quo. You know, for whatever

43:09

reason, the quarterbacks didn't go off the market, and

43:12

all the same guys Cam and Jamis and

43:14

Dalton, they all got signed quickly. This this yes,

43:16

and I'll share at the end of this segment

43:18

what I believe the record to be. But you're gonna see it's

43:20

not gonna be great anyway. Running back, not

43:23

a lot of choices. I'll name

43:25

some of them that I believe are still on the open

43:27

market. Adrian Peterson, rex Burghead,

43:31

Frank Gore, La, Shawn McCoy, Dion

43:33

Lewis. I'm gonna go with Peterson,

43:35

Dion Lewis. Peterson's Angelis

43:38

Whill he's your battering ram run

43:40

up the middle. Maybe he gets another seven hundred

43:43

yard season. And then Dion Lewis, I don't know what

43:45

he's got left in the tank. Didn't do much with the Giants last

43:47

year, but he could be my little change of pace guy that can

43:49

catch the ball out of the backfield. Um,

43:51

anybody else you guys see

43:54

is a better fit. I wanted. I wanted

43:56

to get some lover in here for Cordarrel Patterson,

43:59

who remains unsigned. Interesting

44:01

because he's my kick returner. A spoiler

44:03

alert, you want to put him in the backfield, Well,

44:05

he's got to be your kick returner, but yeah, I want to. I want to

44:07

give him a full year as a tailback. I remember

44:10

watching him play at Tennessee, getting

44:12

like carries from under center, and

44:14

I mean he kind of looked like Adrian Peterson UM

44:17

at times. He's like a you know, taller running back.

44:19

UM. But I mean you can use them. I mean he

44:22

fits perfectly with Alex Smith because Alex Smith

44:24

loves to throw chuckdowns to

44:26

running backs. Jade mckissic head

44:28

games where he caught like fourteen passes

44:31

last year. He used Cordireld Patterson

44:33

as an in space playmaker, and

44:36

all of a sudden, like we're cooking with some gas

44:38

here. Patterson is the great,

44:40

well maybe the best special teamer of

44:42

his era. And uh, every team

44:45

is on thinks they're gonna suddenly figure out the

44:47

way to unlock him as an offensive talent.

44:49

We're over six, But like that, they

44:51

always think they're gonna and it's always kind

44:53

of fun to watch it. I'd put him in Gore in

44:55

the same backfield. You can't stop it. First

44:59

of all, there there's a chance Dean Lewis is

45:01

better at playing football right now than Frank

45:03

Gore. I think if you asked any any

45:05

coaches, if you watch that tape last year, Dean

45:08

Lewis was jumping off the screen

45:10

last year. Or at least he can. He could

45:12

do his assignments. He can do it. And plus

45:15

you need some guys to sell the team. This team is

45:17

gonna stink anyways. He could be searching

45:19

to get to be the number two Russia in

45:21

NFL history, so at least that could sell some tickets.

45:24

I would. I would. If you bury Lashawn McCoy

45:26

on your roster, you will win a championship. A

45:29

lot of a lot of inconvenient truths.

45:31

They're spoken by Greg who, by the way,

45:33

did come up with the nickname for Frank

45:35

Gore inconvenient truth keep patting

45:37

that back in the day. Well well

45:40

Bill, no, no, no, that was that's that's a great thing.

45:43

It was a it was a rich eyes and

45:45

thing, I think. And then I just kept like repeating

45:47

it over and like he said it one time, and

45:49

then I gotta

45:51

give him credit. If

45:53

you think that Frank Gore is

45:56

an effective marketing tool to put meat

45:58

in the seats, I just feel like too

46:00

close. I mean, he's

46:02

the only one that could be breaking some records if

46:04

nothing else. You're slogan could be like, we

46:08

may lose, but we have a lot of character

46:10

Alex Smith, Frank Gore, guys

46:13

who are going to be great at the season ticket

46:15

meet and greet Mark Adrian

46:17

Peterson or Frank Gore on the roster Adrian

46:21

Peterson. Okay, um, well

46:23

we could we could also we get Frank Gore as like our coach

46:25

too. I think you'd be a great coach. Yeah do you have but you can

46:27

have a practice squad at

46:30

least assistant head coach slash running

46:32

backs at very least. Um,

46:35

all right, at fullback, I feel really good

46:37

about this guy. UM, not

46:40

a lot of options, unfortunately, and I

46:42

think I can't put John

46:44

qun on it anymore. So I

46:47

think John Aziale at

46:50

fullback. I feel really good about entering

46:52

his age thirty two season. Um.

46:55

You know, Dallas Cowboy, undrafted

46:58

free agent two thousand twelve, played his college

47:00

ball at North Texas. UM,

47:03

good dude, and I think he's my

47:05

fullback. Gray

47:07

Beards, we're bringing the fullback back. That's

47:10

your prerogative. Dan, alright,

47:12

moving right along. I got John to see. Sorry, bro,

47:15

Wide receiver, I feel good about the wide receivers

47:18

this year. We in in In

47:20

the past, the wide receiver A big problem

47:23

is we we struggled to gain separation.

47:25

I mean, that's our thing, you know. But uh,

47:28

and that's always gonna be a challenge in this exercise.

47:30

But I do have somebody in there that can I think

47:32

can help me out with that. UM. We'll start with Antonio

47:35

Brown. That's a nice one to have their obviously

47:37

locked and loaded. UM and the

47:39

Bucks. He's the one guy in the entire team. The Bucks

47:41

haven't brought back yet, so we'll see

47:44

how but once your name to the Gray Beards roster,

47:46

you're there. You're set. Um, just

47:48

so everyone knows, I need a speedster. Marcy's

47:51

Goodwin turned

47:53

thirty years old. I know he's not necessarily

47:56

a complete receiver, but you send him

47:59

deep, just send him down the island, send

48:01

him on the jet and that's what his job is, to

48:03

spread out the field hopefully. And then

48:05

um, then it gets a little tricky. Al

48:08

seon Jeffrey Reclamation Project.

48:10

Al Right, come on, uh join

48:12

us and then uh we're gonna do some four

48:14

wide receiver sets. Larry

48:17

Fitzgerald and Adam Humphries are the two guys

48:19

that I'm kind of going back and forth on. Larry

48:21

Fitzgerald just for leadership alone, and um,

48:24

you know, just the living legend Larry

48:26

legend uh of the NFL is

48:28

my choice? Your thoughts? Boys? Other other

48:30

options Golden Tate, Uh, Danny

48:32

Ammondola? Yeah, but again,

48:35

Adam Humphries is he's on a team, the

48:38

Washington football team. Um, yeah,

48:41

how about Josh

48:43

Gordon? Oh I love

48:45

it. Oh, I'm no, I'm done with that. No,

48:47

no, no, no, no no. You know many times

48:49

he's been on the Gray Beards. We need a vertical

48:53

playmaker. Man, we need a vertical playmaker

48:55

so that we can you know, set up all these great

48:58

underneath kickouts to Larry. It's

49:00

in Golden Tate that are going to get,

49:02

you know, on average game three and a half yards.

49:04

All right, so let's be fair here. And by the way, he turns

49:07

thirty on April, so

49:10

he does qualify. The version

49:12

of Josh Gordon we saw in

49:14

Seattle, is that's the guy that's going to

49:16

be taking tops off the defenses and make

49:19

a big place on this question.

49:21

I gotta asked the question. I mean, I

49:23

don't think you're gonna be running Cliff Kingsbury's

49:25

offense with this cast of characters, but Josh

49:27

Gordon will would help out this roster.

49:30

Well, Paterson's got, you know, the position flexibility.

49:33

You could get Gore in at running back, you know, move

49:35

Patterson. I

49:38

do like the Marquis good One signing

49:41

because you gotta think creatively in the marketing department.

49:43

For the gray Beard. It's an Olympic year. Uh,

49:45

he was an Olympian. There's just something

49:48

you can promote around that. I feel

49:50

nothing else. He can just like fresh you right, he

49:53

can just run around the track or something, and you

49:55

guys could do something with that, alright, Greg Alshon,

49:57

Jeffrey or Josh Gordon. I

50:01

guess I go Gordon, Yeah, I mean you gotta

50:04

swing for the fences, the Antonio Brown

50:06

dash, Gordon Um trying

50:09

to catch basses from Alex Smith. What could

50:11

go wrong? It would be perfect, all right? The tight ends.

50:13

I'm feeling feeling good about

50:16

Um. In fact, there are two players

50:18

that are always hurt UM, so I might need

50:20

a few more of these. But Tyler

50:22

Eiffort and Jordan Reed are those players. I

50:27

believe they are now two major

50:29

injury dudes of the past. But

50:32

Tyler Effort, Jordan Reed, if

50:34

I run some two tight end sets, maybe put them

50:36

in bubble wrap, maybe you can make

50:38

some place. I

50:40

mean, Jordan Reed had, like Jordan Reid

50:43

had like three moments last year where you're

50:45

like Jordan read all right,

50:47

and then and then he got hurt and he can't

50:49

took a while to come back, but he'll he'll give

50:51

you those couple of moments. So I think that,

50:54

yeah, we're gonna need to run like a four or five receiver

50:56

spread here because we don't want these guys being

51:00

out there for too many snaps. I mean you do.

51:02

It's okay too with Jacksonville that this

51:05

might be your best position group, I think relative

51:07

to league average right now. The only problem is I think

51:09

I have about twelve fifteen snaps

51:11

per game for both of them, so I

51:13

need to be very smart how I deploy Uh

51:16

these two guys? Um? All

51:18

right? Can I like one

51:21

like halftime question? Here are you? Who is

51:23

the opponent? Like? Who who are you? Are you

51:25

playing another team of thirty and forty year

51:27

old humans who are um?

51:29

Fair question? Absolutely, but don't

51:31

overthink it. I I when I hypothetically

51:34

then figure out how the team would do view

51:37

them as an expansion team that are on schedule.

51:40

Um, but there is no other dimension. There's

51:42

no hollow earth where they are part

51:44

of a different league. Um. Offensive

51:46

tackle interesting here? You know I could run

51:48

back the Kansas City Chiefs book

51:52

ends here Mitchell Schwartz, who

51:54

has been one of the best right tackles in football, and he's

51:56

not retired yet and hasn't made any announcement.

51:58

So he's my right tackle. Cocked and loaded. Now

52:01

Eric Fisher, he could be on the left side,

52:03

But I don't know about Eric Fisher. I was thinking

52:06

Russell o'kum, what do you think about that? So, yeah,

52:10

Russell o'coung um, he could also really

52:12

help us um with our financial department

52:15

because he's

52:17

really smart in that aspect. I also wanted

52:19

to throw out Ali Villanueva, former Army

52:21

ranger. You'd bring a lot of a lot of patriotism.

52:24

Just absolutely absolutely badass

52:27

um. But yeah, no, I mean at offensive tackle,

52:30

where we've got some serious options

52:32

here. Um, you know, some

52:34

injuries to deal with. I mean Eric

52:36

Fisher is coming off the late season achilles

52:39

tear, Mitchell Schwartz coming off back

52:41

surgery. But I mean if we could get

52:43

these guys you know, in the rehab room and didn't

52:46

get him treated, we we might

52:48

be even even to be able to stock some depth

52:50

if we could put as some of these guys on the reserve

52:52

pup like the Patriots have been doing for years. Yeah,

52:55

I think you want to bring Schwartz in. You

52:57

know, he did that book with his brother Jeff

53:00

Warts. Maybe they start like doing a podcast

53:02

together. Jeff's been getting into the podcast

53:05

media game. You're just not You're not just

53:07

hiring Mitchell, You're bringing in the whole

53:09

Schwartz family. Yeah, and and

53:11

Mark you should know, Um, I'm gonna

53:13

need your help on this one. You're gonna have to play the turk.

53:16

It's been a nice run for this gentleman on

53:18

the Gray Beards, but Jason Peters, I

53:21

gotta let him go, So you're gonna have to let him

53:23

know that he did please.

53:27

Well, all right, fine, I've not been in. It's

53:29

not been told to me how much money I make inside

53:31

this organization to begin with. That sounds like

53:34

the least fun task anyone has. On

53:36

the interior, I got Austin Austin

53:38

reader Um at

53:41

center. He's in the pivot, Silva.

53:43

That's a little football talk for you. Uh.

53:45

And then I got Lane Taylor at guard.

53:48

Now that guy was a week one starter for the Packers

53:50

before he hurt his knee. And then d

53:52

J Fluker get that giant involved

53:54

in the mix. What do you think about that we

53:57

think about the interior boys. Flucker

54:01

is beautiful. I love Flucker.

54:03

Was a guest star on on

54:06

a very funny Tyler Lockett video,

54:08

you know, when he pretended to be Russell Wilson

54:11

signing in. Fluker played

54:13

the role of Siarra. So he brings some some

54:16

joy to the Yeah, some triviality

54:18

to the locker room like that. Alright, kicker

54:21

Dan Bailey, Um, I know he's on the

54:23

wrong side of things now, but you know he's

54:25

been an accomplished guy in the league. Another

54:27

one to kick the tires on. I'm just gonna make a phone

54:30

call Silver Sea Bass. Kick

54:32

the tire. See how big he is now? Just

54:35

actually, I just want to see him. I want to see where he's

54:37

at physically right now. His last

54:39

season, he so wanted to retire. You could

54:41

see it on well. He ended

54:44

the season blowing a hamstring, blowing

54:46

a tire, chasing down runback.

54:48

That's a dark end of your career. Alright, let's

54:51

swing to the defense. Um, this is the best

54:53

part of the team, and it feels like usually is

54:56

uh. Edge options Melvin Ingram,

54:58

Justin Houston, Olivier Vernon, Alvin

55:00

Smith like them all? Can

55:04

you have? Can you put them all on your team? For?

55:07

I think? So? Yeah? Why not? A little death do that? That's

55:09

a that's a good group. What I got about a

55:11

guy like Ryan Carrigan is he's still sitting

55:13

down there too. But I went with

55:16

these four. I mean, you could potentially with Karrigan

55:18

in there. If you want interior Delon de

55:20

Kwon Jones, Geno Atkins, Kwan Short

55:23

Snacks, Harrison. I always throw

55:25

on one ex jet that I just like and uh, I

55:27

know, I don't know if you can play the guitar anymore, but Snax

55:29

was a great disruptor in the middle in

55:32

his a day. Yeah, we got

55:34

and we got a lot of depth here. We could running a NASCAR package.

55:38

De Kwon Jones is a good player. I'm surprised

55:41

he's still unsigned. He's solid um

55:44

full disclosure. I didn't really break down like how

55:47

we're gonna play things at linebacker, but kJ

55:50

right it off ball linebacker got lines

55:52

in the mix, l J. Fort and

55:54

then uh an old war

55:57

horse. Shawn Lee was somebody that hadn't

55:59

mind your thoughts. I like this defense. Is

56:02

Sean Lee a free agent? I forgot about that.

56:04

You're right, yeah, Smith

56:08

is also a free agent, and

56:12

you're looking to win games like nine to seven. Cornerback,

56:15

now, this has also been wide receiver. Same

56:17

thing. We struggle to get separation cornerback.

56:20

Usually we have a lot of concerns about

56:23

keeping up with speed receivers. The idea

56:25

of seeing Tyrock Tyreek Hill on the other side

56:27

of the field. That's that's a nightmare for the seemor really

56:29

anybody that can run like a four seven

56:32

forty. All right, Richard Sherman.

56:34

Nice that locked and loaded. Welcome

56:37

to the Gray Beards. It's been a long time coming. Casey

56:40

Hayward, um A,

56:42

J. Boyer, Josh

56:45

Norman, Quentin Dunbar.

56:48

Now you say Quentin Dunbar maybe a character

56:50

concerned. He's had some issues off the field. That's

56:52

why Lar Fitzgerald's here. He's

56:56

just gonna fix him. Uh no,

56:59

no, no, how

57:02

do you like that? I got Bryan Pool maybe in the

57:04

slot. Yeah, how

57:08

about Jason mccordy's out there. I

57:10

mean I would maybe take him over.

57:13

Who was after Sherman. There were

57:15

some Casey hayward A, J boy A,

57:17

Josh Norman. Yeah, that's

57:20

too much. I don't like Norman and

57:22

Sherman on the same team. They sort

57:25

of yeah, they well, they filled the same sort

57:27

of role at one point in

57:29

the in the two thousand tens. I

57:31

want Sherman to be kind of the boss of

57:33

this room. Mccorty, you get the

57:36

mccordy twins Twitter, you know handle

57:38

that they share. I don't know how that works, you know when

57:40

they're on different teams, but they'd go for

57:42

that. Very cool. Um Safety,

57:46

all right, I'm gonna have Kenny Vicardo in the

57:48

box. I like, I like

57:50

his abilities there free safety. Listen,

57:53

I'm gonna get a center fielder and I'm gonna get the prototype.

57:56

A year away from the game. Maybe he's been humbled,

57:58

maybe he's making some better decisions in his life. Hopefully

58:01

he stayed in shape. Earl Thomas, welcome back. You're

58:03

a great Yeah. Have the

58:05

legion of boom here. This is This is promising

58:07

from the marketing angle, that's

58:10

true. I didn't even think of that. To get Sherman and Thomas

58:13

back together. We can see if what Cam chancers up

58:15

to his next field come back and

58:17

Browner think there's

58:19

only so much can do. I think

58:21

Browner is unavailable right now.

58:25

Um. You know you do have a lot going

58:27

on that just with personalities, you

58:30

know, I know this individual does have a job, so I don't

58:32

know if he qualifies. He is over forty though. Any

58:34

thoughts of bringing in Jack ether By as a character

58:37

coach to kind of keep this T

58:39

team online, you know that's

58:42

a great thought. You need some like a moral

58:44

compass. Gonna

58:46

have to um draw the line there.

58:49

Yeah, we mentioned that Cordurel

58:52

will be my kicking punt returner and the punter

58:54

like this, this is great though into my lap a little

58:56

bit. Thomas Morris staid, great run

58:59

in New Orleans and he needs a fresh start. Well

59:01

that's what the gray beards are all

59:03

about. Now that's the team, UM

59:07

head coach. Well, defensive coordinator

59:09

Wade Phillips. Oh yeah,

59:12

UM offensive coordinator um

59:17

who was in Miami last year. Uh, you

59:22

know, forced

59:24

him to retire. It was a little confusing there

59:26

wasn't sure if that was a firing or not. But yeah,

59:30

uh. And of course head coaches Wayne Fons. How

59:34

old is Wade Fons right now? Is it? And

59:38

their record again? Higher

59:41

degree of difficulty here, um, And

59:43

I want to hear your guys thoughts on this too, losing

59:46

anybody that's you know, below thirty.

59:50

I just think the offense we're gonna really struggle

59:52

to score points, and I think the defense is gonna keep

59:54

us in some games. But also it's an older

59:56

defense, so you worry about injury issues. It's

1:00:01

the three and thirteen team this year. I gotta that. I mean

1:00:03

I gotta be honest, what do you guys think? I mean, they

1:00:06

could, they could definitely beat the Texans. Okay,

1:00:08

hopefully they're on the schedule. I'm

1:00:12

gonna go I'm gonna go one in fifteen. I

1:00:15

think, oh wait, wait, wait, it's what's seventeen

1:00:17

game season? Excuse me, baby,

1:00:20

let's fly. I'm going

1:00:22

one in sixteen. I think Alex

1:00:24

smith Um gets

1:00:27

a huge upset in like week fifteen against

1:00:29

a competitive team, you know, and they celebrate like

1:00:31

it's the super Bowl, and the game winning

1:00:33

play is called by an executed

1:00:36

by assistant head coach

1:00:38

slash running back coach slash player

1:00:40

Frank Gore jumps in over jumps

1:00:42

in. I

1:00:45

am smelling, oh in seventeen. Oh

1:00:47

no, oh no, we're in

1:00:49

that territory thing. You don't relevant.

1:00:53

Do you think we can't get the club doub just once.

1:00:56

I think fonts and uh you

1:00:58

put fonts and and

1:01:00

way to fill together. I think you're gonna win a lot of games waiting

1:01:03

fonts. By the way, you look back, he was He made the playoffs

1:01:05

like four out of his last five years. He

1:01:08

looks pretty good in hindsight. I'm not I'm

1:01:12

not being flipped I want to make sure he's alive. Please

1:01:14

hold he I just checked this hues. Yeah I

1:01:16

didn't. He was alive and he's eighty

1:01:18

one entering his eight

1:01:21

age eighty two seasons. So well,

1:01:24

that's like Pete Cal's around there. He's chewing

1:01:27

that gun. I would I would have loved Steve Spurrier.

1:01:29

I mean, what do you did with the Orlando Apollos

1:01:31

in the A F? L and I in the A F?

1:01:34

And I know you guys bashed the a F. You especially

1:01:37

he did the A. I got after the

1:01:39

A F a little bit, and I apologize because I know it

1:01:42

meant it meant a lot to Silva.

1:01:45

Silva stood up in a menacing way

1:01:47

and considered throwing a

1:01:49

shrim cocktail at Dan. And I

1:01:53

think he was gonna throw me through the plate glass window

1:01:56

of st. Elmo. Ask

1:01:59

that. But you know what, AF,

1:02:01

that was an incredible seven week run. That's

1:02:06

um anyway, that's the gray those

1:02:08

are the gray beards. UM. Appreciate

1:02:11

your help, Uh, Evan

1:02:13

and and and Greg um

1:02:17

really good stuff. And I

1:02:19

knew that I was well.

1:02:22

I was suggesting Evan that we should be getting

1:02:24

byelines, shared bylines, or at least

1:02:26

the thing at the bottom of a big article where

1:02:28

it says you know X, Y and Z also tin

1:02:32

so so you have you decided you were going

1:02:34

to announce at the end of the show if if

1:02:36

any of us get mentioned, I'm

1:02:40

gonna say maybe next year. Maybe next year.

1:02:44

Yeah, these paid these unpaid internships

1:02:47

aren't as uh yeah,

1:02:52

um all right, Evan,

1:02:55

you said it all. You

1:02:57

will never be There's a reason why you were in a

1:02:59

hit it and quit it guest. We've had hit

1:03:02

it and quit it guests. We had one someone recently. You

1:03:04

are not one of them. Thank

1:03:06

you, thank you, No, thank you. It's always it's

1:03:08

always enjoy to talk some ball with you guys, and you

1:03:11

guys crack me up. So I appreciate it.

1:03:13

I appreciate the Established the Run background

1:03:16

that you made. Yeah, it's look at the glare.

1:03:18

It's horrible, looks terrible. You

1:03:21

gotta frame it up a little bit. It was a good idea

1:03:23

you you sent out for that. That was good. Everyone

1:03:25

should check out Established

1:03:28

the Run with the former road

1:03:30

a World, Hasses, Adam Levitan

1:03:32

and Evan Silva all sorts of DFS

1:03:35

stuff NBA. It's incredible site and

1:03:37

if you if you stay on like

1:03:39

a hidden track on an old CD from the nineties.

1:03:42

Silva will share his thoughts on Roadal

1:03:44

World changing its name to NBC Sports

1:03:46

Edge. Don't get me started, don't

1:03:48

give me star. I don't

1:03:51

know why not? Why not take the like most successful

1:03:53

web property they've ever had and changed

1:03:56

the name to NBC Sports Edge. Come

1:03:58

on, come on? All right, there goes Evan,

1:04:01

and make sure you check out Established

1:04:03

the Run. That's some of the best football writing you will find

1:04:05

and it will win you fantasy leagues as

1:04:08

well in DFS and all that other stuff. All

1:04:10

right, um, we'll be back on

1:04:12

Monday with another podcast. Friday

1:04:14

The Network Show is back. Check that out three pm

1:04:17

Eastern noon Pacific and we

1:04:19

will sign off. You know, we always get great submissions

1:04:22

um from the listeners, sometimes and written

1:04:24

forms, sometimes audio um

1:04:26

and song. Hugh O'Connor one of our

1:04:29

uh fine listeners, beautiful

1:04:31

song about our podcast and attribute

1:04:34

to Chris Westlan which I gotta I gotta tell you the

1:04:36

end of the song snuck up and bit me. Good

1:04:38

job by Hugh. So check that out

1:04:41

till Monday. Heed the call. It's

1:04:46

showing up the games and listening

1:04:48

to l Five days since the Tuesday

1:04:50

show, all of our leaves, news and see who

1:04:53

wrote a bang of three days since the

1:04:55

preview pod, ma'am with the lucks

1:04:57

and trying to work a snake draft. Just today

1:04:59

I thought, let the loan. But in just a few

1:05:01

hours my heroes will here with me. When

1:05:03

the top a deer like best is it the Raven's

1:05:05

nest? Or when they just just about some nonsense

1:05:08

they just thought of. Ricky has to keep it real behind

1:05:10

the scenes. It's been the wheel of teams. Figure out

1:05:12

what that means. Sometimes you wonder she's not bored of when

1:05:14

they bring on County Fox a tiny box of drops on shocksle

1:05:16

she just rustled though she lost the rhythm of the attendance.

1:05:18

She's not the only one who brings the phone. I no, you know they've

1:05:21

got a ton of guys and goes to come and John a poker's

1:05:23

friends. Can I help him? If? I think Mark Bonny

1:05:25

when he said trying hard not to get him

1:05:27

when the brands are bad, turns the kind of guy

1:05:29

who laughs at his own bits. Can you really blame

1:05:31

him? I guess they are the greatest hits. Gregg has

1:05:33

a tendency for looking up the favorite was

1:05:36

news History like nobody else. It's

1:05:38

been one week of the off season, seven

1:05:40

long months before we're back to football.

1:05:43

Five days of free agent shows, Greg

1:05:45

and was his list that Oh isn't thee Now?

1:05:48

Three days and they're back again, filling

1:05:50

up the time with truly crazy sagments.

1:05:52

Yesterday I just wrote this song, but I'll

1:05:54

be waiting next week to listen to my heroes.

1:05:57

We have to check him with the traumas leaves. That's where Gregg

1:05:59

takes his ease, and Dan is never pleased unless

1:06:01

the struggle with the Patriots. It's hard to talk about

1:06:04

the team dances like the most sent down to seeing

1:06:06

ghosts. They've got no call to boast, but maybe sellam

1:06:08

make some favorites when you talk to Cleveland brands. Max

1:06:10

also done to culter Front, but there dot com this year because

1:06:12

they finally made the playoffs. Don't forget Rick Hollywood

1:06:15

As if you could. She's doing good at Etellen just as

1:06:17

well with them on the broadcast. Can we

1:06:19

help it? If Chris Westling is a hero, he

1:06:21

fought the Bigsie tough. He never showed us fear. Now

1:06:24

he's the kind of guy who loses. I bed in the bath,

1:06:26

gave us football takes that always made us thinking

1:06:28

laugh. He's got a tendency of kicking as

1:06:30

a corner hole and when he locked it up, you never

1:06:33

in down. It's been two months since

1:06:35

we lost our friend and never met

1:06:37

the guy, but man, you know we miss him. Show

1:06:40

won't ever be the same. Hell always

1:06:42

be a gap when Dan starts with spots up boys.

1:06:45

I say, hey Dan every time I'm

1:06:47

thinking of the male man wishing he was with

1:06:49

you. Chris Westley. He'll always be our

1:06:52

guy. Heat

1:06:55

the core,