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The Around the NFL podcast

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more strange than a Sissler.

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Fever dream from the Chris Westling

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podcast studio, It's Around the NFL. My

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name is Dan Heads and I got heroes here, Greg

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Rosendal, Mark

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Sessler and them Feva.

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Dreams and

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to my right.

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During the regular season, it was

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Wednesdays with Connie Connie. Now

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it is not Tuesdays with Maury.

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Tuesdays with Connie, Colleen

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Wilf. It's way more fun, way more fun

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than a Mitch album. Page Turner,

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Hello, Hey, you

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had a great idea off

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seasons rapidly approaching.

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Uh huh, I love.

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The off season summer of Connie's almost

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sure.

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Sure the idea of us just dedicating

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an episode to breakups

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in.

0:59

Our personal life breakup stories because

1:01

we were just telling some off air

1:04

and they were quite amusing.

1:05

I think that'd be good, and we have

1:08

a little NFL hook to it, you know, there's

1:10

some breakup that week and then we dive

1:12

in.

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Yeah.

1:13

Yeah, gotta be careful how you you know, label

1:16

the person that you were talking like high school years,

1:18

right, These could be alien, sure,

1:21

they could be adults with children. At this point, you don't want

1:23

to revisit that in the If they're listeners.

1:25

They don't have to be our person. It

1:28

could be like a friend crazy breakup.

1:30

We have a lot of breakup.

1:31

Stories where his ex girlfriends

1:33

are listening to the show on a regularly not entirely

1:36

untrue.

1:38

You have women that you've dated that are listening

1:41

right now. I have evidence of one.

1:43

Wow, not religiously and probably turned

1:45

off by the whole concepts.

1:47

Like the off seasons here go ahead?

1:49

Is this camp happiness r? Sessler?

1:52

No, it would be posted by the lake that had

1:54

multiple errors, but it would be posts that in general.

1:56

Pearl Jim just put out verses. I

1:59

think we'll see name the doctors on top of the world.

2:01

Save it for the I mean, Dan and I haven't even had

2:03

our our spouses

2:05

ever listened to the show. And Mark Scott his camp

2:07

Happiness girl still still checking in daily.

2:10

She's like, Oh, I can't wait to hear about the Steelers

2:12

offensive coordinator higher What Mark

2:14

has to say?

2:15

Not sure it's continually If that's the word you just

2:17

use, can we get can we have around the show for that episode?

2:20

Yeah?

2:20

I would, I'd be happy to check. I don't think there's

2:22

any ill will at this point. Again, I think anyone

2:25

that I dated from back then has like, you know,

2:27

four children at this point and is a completely

2:29

different person.

2:30

No hard feelings good.

2:31

I'm assuming maybe

2:35

if you get under it the old

2:38

sestom, maybe you buried him and then you get a little bit

2:40

deep and you realize there are issues still there.

2:42

Four children each. I mean, Mark only

2:44

liked him if they were fertile.

2:45

He's like that. The first

2:47

thing I ask you stop.

2:51

Speaking of uh, you know, art,

2:54

hard talks and digging into the emotional emotional

2:56

side of things. A little later in today's

2:58

show, we're going to give some pep talk boks, some

3:01

heart to hearts, some tough talks

3:04

to those who need them. Colleen,

3:06

how confident one to ten are you with the understanding

3:09

of today's.

3:09

Well, you just said pep talks, and when you

3:11

texted us you said tough conversations.

3:14

And sometimes a pep talk is a tough conversation.

3:16

Okay, But I asked for.

3:17

Clarific I am often in her world about I'm

3:20

driving around having no CONCEPTENCEE and I are aligned

3:22

on this. We are, and like I I actually had

3:24

asked for clarification.

3:25

Can I offer a clarify

3:28

that as as host, Colleen

3:30

is often a little confused about where

3:32

to take it. Mark's all funnel

3:34

to the same place, Like it doesn't matter how

3:37

clear the explanation.

3:38

We said, like I want to I want to make sure I'm

3:40

trying to meet what your vision was, and

3:42

you said any I think anything goes basically

3:45

so it's just a conversation.

3:46

It's just right, Well, somehow will go wrong. I

3:49

have a feeling I'll let you very confident.

3:51

I feel confident that if you feel confident,

3:53

we'll all be confident that this segment went

3:56

well.

3:57

I think it's going to be great.

3:58

All right, but.

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Before we do that, and

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by the way, today's show is presented by DraftKings,

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Nice bang.

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I'd also mention one thing because I think that people

4:10

think that we have these easy jobs where here

4:13

we know no it just

4:16

you come in and you just talk about sports. It's like all

4:18

four of us simultaneously

4:21

on our laptops are dealing with what

4:23

I would call like a.

4:26

It's like a category eight like I

4:28

would.

4:29

Issue if if imagine for those

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old enough, if Y two K actually

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happened.

4:34

That's what we're dealing with. And it's and I

4:36

will I'm not ik it counts clear traffic

4:38

lights blinking. We don't need to

4:41

we don't need to like dig down into it.

4:42

But but at any moment, like every three or four

4:45

minutes, all of our computers invariably are shutting

4:47

off and we have to restart them while our

4:49

information is contained on screen.

4:51

And yet we continued. It seems seeming

4:53

no would know they're.

4:55

Well, now they would because we spent two minutes

4:57

talking about that heroic we are all

4:59

are fighting through this.

5:01

I'm always told you get duck. No one

5:03

needs to know what's going on underneath the

5:05

water. You're just swimming along

5:07

and it looks very smooth, and all the chaos

5:10

is underneath.

5:11

I like

5:13

to make us look, you know, as valuable

5:15

as possible.

5:15

I think to synchronize

5:19

the security detail these laptops

5:22

universally. It feels like a major misstep

5:24

by the IT department. It around

5:27

that it may just sink today's program, But.

5:29

I love it. I

5:31

love everyone that works in the IT department.

5:34

Here. We have bad days here.

5:36

This is their bad day, and we're going to work

5:39

through it hopefully.

5:40

Yeah, I'm confident in that.

5:44

All right, it just can't It just came up there.

5:47

It is.

5:47

It's a ready, it's not fictional. It's like we're

5:49

working with this in real time.

5:50

Let's just in this. Greg's uncomfortable the

5:54

end of the

5:54

play.

5:59

Tough you

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know, don't worry, Bub, there's

6:06

only sixty five million people watching

6:08

that game.

6:09

Tough one. Bub, Why did

6:11

you just? Why did you side? I said

6:13

that.

6:14

He's fighting through it. He's fighting through

6:16

a difficult situation.

6:18

He is.

6:18

He's paddling underneath the surface, which we knew

6:21

his name would be very easy.

6:23

Yeah, find that out pract official

6:25

voice.

6:26

I mean, I think he could walk into a bar and knock

6:28

like half the bar out too. It's not like he was some wimp

6:30

up there, which as he's John Raid from a Johnny

6:33

Smith hanging there. It's like, you know, Bub,

6:35

Peter Brady voice cracking like

6:38

you know what I mean.

6:38

He was sick. He was, he was sick. Let's all been

6:41

there.

6:41

Let's try to avoid nineteen seventies pop culture

6:43

references.

6:44

We got to move forward as it we got it. I won't

6:46

go there again. We have a young clientele.

6:49

Eighty pop culture references just.

6:51

Roughly forty years ago.

6:53

Let's get to the eighties, preferably nineties.

6:56

I just had a Y two K ref.

6:58

He was singing Frasier before the show.

7:00

Let's talk about how Live was a bad band

7:02

name for the tenth time on the show.

7:04

The Internet is actually a band name too.

7:06

I mean when Ed Kual checking the guys from

7:08

York Pennsylvania said we got to come up

7:11

with a band name back in about ninety one,

7:13

and they're like, Live it talks

7:15

about how we're vital and that that's

7:17

where our music comes to life.

7:19

And then it's like six years later, you're

7:21

on AOL and you got him in Live. They

7:23

go, was it live with an ext

7:26

explanation point too?

7:27

I believe No, it was like Live with some type

7:29

of like reverse underscore and overscore

7:31

over the eye. Well, yeah, it's tough one

7:33

that you can't which is not searchable either, a.

7:35

Marketing Y two K truly.

7:39

All right, let's do some news became

7:42

a huge mistakes.

7:43

The Atlanta Falcons have named Raheem Morris

7:45

their new head coach.

7:47

Oh you're so unfair, Dan. Raheem

7:50

Morris, the.

7:52

First former NFL head coach Arthur

7:54

Blank is hired in his twenty plus year tenure.

7:57

He is and this is a positive.

7:59

The first full time blackhead coach in the

8:01

franchise's history, and

8:03

he's also notably not Bill Belichick.

8:06

So the Atlanta Falcons go

8:08

with Raheem Morris, who's had previous

8:10

head coaching experience with

8:13

Tampa Bay.

8:13

He was also an interim head coach. Where was he the

8:15

interim coach?

8:16

Well, alcoul it

8:18

was almost hired for that job, that right,

8:21

thank you very much.

8:22

So after fourteen interviews,

8:26

Colleen, the Falcons go

8:29

with Raheem Morris.

8:30

How you feeling about this one?

8:31

I mean I kind of think that it's sort of

8:34

for Arthur Blank, the fact that he wasn't

8:36

hired the last time when they went

8:38

with Arthur Smith. This is sort of like, Okay,

8:41

maybe I made a mistake, like maybe.

8:43

You should have been the head coach the last

8:45

time.

8:46

But the search that they had,

8:48

i mean, fourteen candidates, multiple second

8:50

interviews, like they almost be exhausted

8:53

first of all from the interview process in

8:55

general. But it's kind

8:57

of I just think it's really interesting that they

8:59

ended up bringing him back when he

9:01

was on the coaching staff there from twenty fifteen

9:04

to twenty twenty. Obviously he's known as

9:06

a defensive guy, but he's coached on both

9:08

sides of the ball because in Atlanta

9:10

he was the wide receivers coach from twenty

9:12

sixteen to twenty nineteen. But it's a

9:15

totally different roster at this point

9:17

from when Raheem Morris was last

9:19

there. Only six players remain

9:21

from his last time there who were under

9:23

contract for this upcoming season. And

9:26

I think that it's kind of interesting too

9:28

that both Morris and

9:31

Terry Fontina the GM will report

9:33

directly to Blank, so they cut out

9:35

Rich McKay the CEO, and

9:37

Blank said that McKay will no longer be involved

9:39

in day to day football operations. So

9:42

that almost reminds me of back

9:44

when Chip Kelly came

9:47

in as the Eagles head coach and

9:49

Howie Roseman was like banished to

9:51

a storage closet essentially, and.

9:53

The other side of the building literally, yeah.

9:55

Came back rose from the Ashes. But

9:58

ultimately, the quarterb will.

10:00

Dictate Raheem's success as

10:02

the head coach there, like Desmond Ritter

10:05

and Taylor Heineky, Taylor Heinie, He's going to be a cap

10:07

casualty. So whoever

10:09

they end up bringing in is going to be

10:11

the ultimate decider of what happens

10:14

with Raheem Morris in his second chance

10:16

as a head coach and his second chance

10:18

with Atlanta.

10:20

Will it be like.

10:21

A Baker Mayfield type because Baker and Raheem

10:23

were together in LA. If things don't

10:25

work out with Baker and Tampa Bay, since

10:28

he's a free agent, will they bring in someone like her cousins

10:31

or Russell Wilson. So I think that that is

10:33

the main thing to really watch.

10:35

He's entirely different, did it?

10:37

That's all I got?

10:37

Human, That's a lot. That was good.

10:39

Look, he was one of the youngest head coaches

10:42

in NFL history when he took that

10:44

Bucks job. He was thirty three years old.

10:46

Remember the youngree Bucks.

10:47

It was two thousand Hungary, it was two thousand and

10:49

nine. They went ten and six in

10:51

his second year with Josh Johnson as

10:54

his quarterback.

10:55

That's the coach of the year, Josh Freeman. Rather,

10:58

no, I don't think so, but he definitely was.

11:00

I remember the best one we ended up seeing

11:02

an NFL mark and off that year.

11:04

He was like stock up. Yes, he was

11:06

seen as one of the great young coaches in the least.

11:08

And that was now what thirteen years ago, and

11:10

all you hear from players, from coaches,

11:13

from everyone. He's

11:15

beloved and like you, hear it enough

11:17

year after year after year that he, like Jalen Ramsey

11:19

says he's the best coach he's ever had. All these different coaches

11:21

say, all these different players say, this is the best coach I

11:24

ever had. And a lot of it is like leader

11:26

of men, he has a better idea

11:28

of how different organizations work.

11:30

I think this is a great way to get your

11:32

second job, that you had that much amount

11:34

of time in between, and you saw

11:37

that many different sort of setups

11:39

under Dan Quinn in Atlanta, under Sean

11:41

McVeigh in Los

11:43

Angeles, and the staff I think

11:45

that he sold them on also was probably

11:48

a big part of that. Zach Robinson is offensive

11:50

coordinator. He was a highly respected

11:54

assistant in Los Angeles who's kind of seen

11:56

as the next offensive guy

11:58

from that tree, and he very tight with

12:00

Morris, and Morris sold them on like he's

12:02

gonna come with me, He'll take this job instead

12:05

of all the other ones, like the Patriots were hot after him,

12:07

the Saints, all these other ones, And that's

12:09

part of it. And then more than more than all that,

12:12

like they know him, they know him

12:14

and they like him, and so there's

12:16

familiarity there that I think he had that the

12:18

other eight or nine

12:20

Second Interview candidates didn't

12:23

have. Bill Belichick was never getting this job

12:25

after he left the Second Interview and he wasn't

12:27

hired. I think people have kind of been like, I can't

12:29

believe they didn't hire Belichick. I know you said that to

12:31

and I get that, But that decision was made two weeks

12:33

ago because Belichick, like the second

12:35

Belichick left that Second Interview and he wasn't

12:38

the choice, and they continued tow they clearly

12:40

weren't hiring him, Like, if you're hiring Bill

12:42

Belichick, you just hire him. He came in with

12:44

whatever he wanted the setup to be, they

12:47

didn't agree with it for whatever reason, and

12:49

so then out of the other thirteen choices, to

12:51

me, Morris makes a lot of sense.

12:52

I think it was more of a Belichick saying

12:55

probably like I don't want to work with a Terry

12:57

Fott know, the one we don't know.

12:58

We don't know the history around Belichick, we

13:01

don't even know like all this talk around Belichick,

13:03

like he wants to make all the

13:05

decisions, all this different stuff.

13:07

We're all just kind of assuming that

13:09

and we don't know.

13:10

I loved it from I don't why

13:12

we didn't hear report from the Washington Post that he was planning

13:14

to bring Patricia, Joe Judge

13:17

and possibly Joshua.

13:18

Okay, so members of the step. But I mean in terms

13:20

of the day to day football.

13:21

Up, yeah, I think it's just like Belichick basically

13:23

not moving off of Belichick thinking.

13:26

And that's fine.

13:27

I'm not saying that like there was other people saying that Arthur

13:29

Blank actually was pretty resolute on

13:32

giving him a real chance and wanting to bring Belichick

13:34

in.

13:34

Oh yeah, I think they want. I think they supposedly

13:37

in November this was their plan. They've been working on

13:39

Belichick for months and something made

13:41

them change their mind.

13:42

But I don't think Morris is like this deep

13:45

second place, because I was listening to Peter

13:47

King, who had talked to a ton of people

13:50

over years, and was like, he said that Raheem

13:52

Morris and he wasn't pumping him up that

13:55

if you ranked like coaches, what in

13:57

terms of the higher review that

13:59

he gets they got from people that work with him over years

14:01

and years, that Raheem Morris was easy top five

14:04

and that players were actually agitated

14:06

when he left the Falcons the last

14:08

time. That to your point, like Greg he

14:11

that's how he makes players feeling. So I

14:13

do like the coach that doesn't just get hired

14:15

like the next cycle after they get fired and they

14:18

failed. It's like he has gone and done

14:20

everything. If you're saying that Mike McCarthy went and

14:22

had a one year away sojourn

14:24

to learn about other ways to do things,

14:26

like Morris has gone half of his career doing

14:28

that. And I think it's a good fit because

14:31

he fits in an organization that he already fitted

14:33

well.

14:33

I mean, just be clear, I don't think Raheem Morris

14:36

is gonna necessarily I'm not saying he's

14:38

a.

14:39

From a Belichick angle.

14:40

I'm just saying I find it difficult

14:42

to wrap my head around, especially

14:45

if it's true that blanket circled Belichick

14:47

months and months ago.

14:49

That to change your mind and hire,

14:51

yes, he's what would make you change

14:53

your mind, I don't know.

14:55

We don't know eating like that

14:58

at a certain point, Listen, I'm looking

15:00

at the everything about this, the fact that

15:02

they spoke with fourteen different people,

15:05

the general trajectory

15:07

of this organization since twenty eight three,

15:10

and I just I can't give them the benef of the doubt that they haven't

15:13

galaxy brained their way into an

15:15

absurd decision. And

15:17

maybe everyone else is right, because I know

15:19

this is now the popular thinking. Bill is over the

15:21

hill, Bill demands control.

15:24

Bill is a guy that he comes in

15:26

and nobody can work with him because he's a certain way.

15:28

And maybe that is all true, or

15:31

maybe people are having the chance to hire

15:33

Bill Belichick right now and they've

15:36

gotten in their mind so wrapped around

15:38

the negatives that they don't see what's right in

15:40

front of them, which is the most successful head coach

15:42

who has ever lived.

15:43

That's all.

15:44

And I feel bad because it was kind

15:47

of a d move for me to be negative about Raheem

15:49

when I set the story up, But it's because

15:51

I think it's outrageous in a coaching

15:53

cycle where there's been what eight openings

15:56

that this guy is gonna.

15:57

Be out of, Well, they're there the only ones even that way,

16:00

literally, And I think that was I heard that,

16:02

and this makes sense to me that that might

16:04

have been a factor and it shouldn't be. And it does

16:07

point to what you're saying, the Falcons being a bad organization.

16:09

Maybe is like I think they.

16:10

Were a little spooke that literally no one else had any

16:13

interest in him.

16:13

They're like, that shouldn't be Ye, you're discuss should

16:15

processed in you should have your own mind.

16:18

We have no idea what We don't know that either.

16:20

We don't know a lot of things, but you don't know what his demands

16:22

were or anything like that.

16:23

But I know enough about Bill Belichick and his

16:25

history in New England, and I've listened to

16:27

Tom Kerran, who knows him as well as anyone, talking about It's

16:29

like, he's not going to be like, oh yeah,

16:32

I'll like I'll like report

16:34

to Rich McKay or I'll like work with Terry

16:36

Fi Like, of course he's not doing that, Like that's

16:38

not going to be an option for him at this stage of his career.

16:40

But also Raheem has to be attractive

16:43

because of his experience there, and obviously

16:45

Arthur Blank knows him so well. I was talking to DiAngelo

16:48

Hall about this because when

16:50

when d Hall was doing

16:53

the morning show with me, Good Morning Football,

16:55

and that was when he when

16:58

let's see what year was that when Morris

17:00

was the interim head coach.

17:01

Was that twenty twenty twenty?

17:02

Yeah, and Dee Hall absolutely

17:06

loved Raheem then and he

17:08

was standing on the table for him then to get the job.

17:10

And it was like from week after week as soon as

17:12

he took over as the interim and I

17:14

was like, are you going to go and work in

17:16

Atlanta? But he's under contract still in

17:19

Carolina, d Hall is, but he was just saying

17:21

he loves Raheem and he really thinks

17:23

that he a great job, relates

17:26

to the players.

17:27

And he is kind of sneakily like

17:29

a big Shanahan

17:31

slash mcmay tree guy

17:33

because he was on that Washington staff,

17:35

that the original Shannon staff. He was

17:37

with Kyle Shanahan and he was the receivers

17:39

coach during twenty three. He was on the offensive side

17:42

of the ball during that and he was just

17:44

twice he was on the offensive and then he was just with

17:46

McVeigh, you know. So he is from that

17:48

tree that everyone's kind of going. And I heard the

17:50

Rams pushed really hard too, saying like

17:54

they loved him. They talked him up and

17:56

to their own detriment because they

17:58

lose Zach Robinson and he's taking some

18:01

more staff members from the Rams.

18:03

They do get two third round, they

18:05

do get that Sentory picks. That does help.

18:07

That's how it goes. All right, let's move on.

18:09

This is a surprise that broke right before we started.

18:12

Ben Johnson is not leaving

18:15

the Detroit Lions. The offensive coordinator informed

18:17

the Seahawks and Commanders. Those

18:19

are the two teams that if you have to hire a coach that he's

18:21

staying in Detroit. That's from Tom

18:24

Pellisero and Seattle

18:26

and Washington. As I said, they have those two

18:28

vacancies. He was scheduled to meet

18:31

with both clubs for interviews this

18:33

week, but instead of the thirty seven year old

18:35

will stay in Detroit.

18:36

Mark.

18:37

This is obviously a big lift

18:40

for the Lions at a time where they could use some good news

18:42

to keep that continuity with the offense.

18:45

And also we'll just I'll just

18:47

say it a risk for.

18:48

Ben Johnson because you don't year to year, especially

18:50

as an OC, you never know how you

18:53

know, your public perception could change.

18:55

He was a very hot name this year, He'll probably

18:57

be a hot name next year, but he chooses

18:59

to stay home and great news for the Lions.

19:01

It we have seen coaches who

19:03

were high flyers and about

19:05

to get hired make a you know, a philosophical

19:08

choice to pass stay where they are and

19:10

then their names fade if the you know, if the

19:12

Lions were to crash and burn next season, like benj

19:15

it's all about like hype and Kellen

19:17

Moore as an example, I mean Kellen Moore,

19:19

Yes.

19:20

He's getting James Byron left, which supposedly

19:22

turned down the Doug Peterson job in

19:24

Jacksonville.

19:25

He's led really not even in a league right, fade

19:28

fast.

19:28

But you know, chefter at a nugget that Ben Johnson

19:30

also was asking for a

19:32

lot of money. That could also

19:34

just be spin and pr and you

19:36

know, people saying things, but his

19:39

asking price was very high. But I think

19:41

if you're him and you look at the team

19:43

that you're on right now, and the way it's built, like

19:46

the other wilderness you could be in is to

19:48

go to a team and have like Geno Smith

19:50

melt away, or go to Washington

19:52

and pick the wrong quarterback and then you're in a terrible

19:54

situation and everyone's pointing fingers

19:56

at you.

19:57

You can stay like the center of the party.

19:59

If you go to Detroit, they go back to the playoffs

20:01

and you got a chance at eight other teams next sup.

20:03

As was trying to say in our conversation

20:06

with Cynthia on Thursday, We're we talk about canalas

20:08

like, if you really believe in

20:11

your abilities. I'm not saying

20:13

this has happened what happened with him, but it's okay to

20:15

pass on a job opening like the one in Carolina,

20:18

which is very dicey if you want

20:20

something that is more suited for you or feels

20:22

like a better landing spot. Can always takes

20:24

an obvious risk with Carolina. Ben

20:26

Johnson is going the other route.

20:28

Yeah, Dave Canalis, huh, you're.

20:29

Doing good with the with the canal Anala.

20:33

I mean, this is now, what the second time that Ben Johnson

20:36

has turned down potential head

20:38

coaching opportunities.

20:39

We don't know like.

20:40

If he would have gotten these jobs or not, but

20:42

since he's staying, that's such a boon

20:45

for Dan Campbell now that he doesn't have

20:47

to go out and find someone else to

20:49

be a creative play caller that knows

20:51

these players that had this success, and

20:53

it just feels like if they're

20:56

able to keep this in place and

20:59

go far again, then Ben Johnson

21:01

has even more of a leg to stand

21:03

on with these head coaching opportunities.

21:05

So I just think it speaks volumes

21:07

of the culture in Detroit too,

21:09

of what they've been able to build and

21:12

for Ben Johnson to see when he

21:14

started with Detroit, because

21:17

he's seen it really

21:19

dark there. He's seen dark times and he's seen

21:21

the turnaround. And to your point, Dan, yeah,

21:24

go to a place that has to that.

21:27

He would have to do that again, that's not easy.

21:29

That's not an easy thing to turn around, to

21:31

change people's mindset and to

21:34

go to another toxic place and to

21:36

make it a winning atmosphere,

21:38

Like that's not easy, and like.

21:39

Not every thirty seven year old is maybe

21:42

inside like measuring where they're at like ready

21:44

to do this. Like I know that everyone getting is getting hired

21:46

at younger, like there are I'm we

21:49

talked. I talked to Ian one time and he talked about like a

21:51

certain head coach candidate reached

21:53

out saying like like I like that people

21:55

see me this way, but I feel like I need more experience.

21:58

And it's like that's like Raheem Morris the f first

22:00

time he's talked about it.

22:01

Yeah, he wasn't really ready for it.

22:03

And I think it's awesome because I

22:05

just like the idea that someone in this society

22:09

essentially can decide like there are more

22:11

things better, more important than money. Like I

22:14

think he's making a personal choice that I don't

22:16

know if it's about readiness, I don't know anything

22:18

like that. To me, it's like I have this situation

22:20

that I truly love, that we're trying

22:22

to accomplish something special, that I've

22:24

been here for five years, that I know this

22:27

is great and whatever is going

22:29

to be next in my career is gonna be next in

22:31

my career. But man, like this is

22:33

amazing right now, and I wanna I

22:36

want to do it even more, even if I'm gonna

22:38

make less money this year, Like I'm not freaking

22:40

going poor. I have more than enough

22:42

money to live off and

22:45

then some. And I'm confident in myself

22:47

too if you're Ben Jonson that like there should

22:50

be opportunities in the future, whatever

22:52

they were gonna be, and I'm gonna just do this because that

22:55

gives me like a higher standard

22:57

of living and like what matters more to

22:59

me, that's very happiness Like that, Like

23:02

imagine if they do get to the Super Bowl next

23:04

year, and if they don't, like he's gonna

23:06

have coordinator jobs and he's gonna have more

23:08

money than anyone should possibly have in

23:11

like the world for the rest of his life anyways,

23:13

right.

23:14

And if the Chargers would who

23:16

have Justin Herbert or you know,

23:18

if the Bengals and Joe Burrow there was an opening,

23:20

he probably would take the jump.

23:21

But maybe cowbody this Cowboys

23:24

Eagles next year, like who knows what's.

23:25

Going I like it.

23:27

I like then Ben Johnson knows he

23:30

should still be in the catbird

23:32

seat next year.

23:34

He should be Aaron Glenn

23:36

is interviewing for that Washington job. By the way,

23:38

still luck Air and Washington said

23:41

they were surprised, according to Adam

23:43

Schefter, so they they were not expecting.

23:46

Speaking of Kellen Moore, he

23:49

formerly of the Cowboys and the Chargers,

23:52

is now the offensive coordinator of the Eagles,

23:55

so he joins app coaching

23:57

staff. Also, this happened a couple.

23:59

Of days ago.

24:00

Big Fangio, after a

24:03

rocky one year tenure in Miami,

24:06

lands in Philadelphia, so

24:08

you got more and Fangio and

24:10

Connie with the Eagles here. They made

24:12

the decision to stick with your boy, Sirianni. And

24:15

they've now surrounded him with very probably

24:18

expensive and successful

24:21

coordinators, So that was the move

24:24

they reinforced, let's say, the foundation

24:26

around Sirianni, which I kind.

24:28

Of get makes sense.

24:29

Yeah, it's almost like Sirianni is giving

24:32

Brandon Staley vibes in this situation

24:34

because Kellen Moore goes

24:37

there.

24:37

And it's like, was this sort of a forced

24:39

move.

24:40

On Sirianni by Howie

24:42

Roseman, Jeffrey Lorie.

24:43

He probably doesn't have a lot of leverage in the organization right.

24:45

Now, Howie mus So.

24:48

I mean, the Eagles have wanted more for a while

24:50

though, Like they interviewed him to be the

24:53

head coach in twenty twenty one and then

24:55

went with Sirianni instead, And

24:57

now that they're bringing in more, we're under

24:59

Siri. That's why it just feels

25:01

like this is sort of an arranged marriage

25:04

and that Sirianni is on an

25:06

even shorter leash. And I mean, frankly,

25:09

a lot of people thought that he wasn't even gonna be in

25:11

Philadelphia again, despite his

25:14

record, despite going to the Super Bowl last

25:16

year. I think it it's

25:18

I like the move just because the with

25:22

Sirianni, they never used

25:24

motions or shifts and they

25:26

never really mixed up the offense

25:29

that way, and that's what Kellen Moore does.

25:31

That's what he's good at. The knock on more is

25:33

that he doesn't really run the ball, so that

25:36

was sort of the issue at a lot of times last

25:38

year in Philadelphia. So we'll have to see

25:40

how that goes. But Moore's offenses have

25:43

traditionally handled the blitz really well.

25:45

That was another area that the Eagles

25:47

offense were lacking in. If it goes

25:49

well, though, Kellen Moore, I guess,

25:52

will probably end up getting head coaching opportunities

25:55

because that would mean that they would keep Siriani

25:57

if things do work out and they have success.

25:59

So it's just sort of an interesting play.

26:02

It reminds me a ton of when they.

26:05

Moved Howie to the other side of the building, because

26:07

it all seems it doesn't even

26:09

seem it's clearly a Jeff Loriy

26:11

think. I don't even think it's rope. I mean, it's the two

26:14

of them working together. They're the two most powerful guys

26:16

in the in the building. But I think

26:18

Jeff Lori was convinced by Siria

26:20

like, we're gonna keep you, but it's not gonna be

26:22

your offense anymore. We want to update and

26:25

modernize, and so we want we want

26:27

you to run the whole thing, but

26:30

you're gonna do it with guys

26:32

that are unfamiliar to because it's not his offense anymore.

26:34

He is now out of his tree and he

26:36

it does seem a little awkward having two great

26:39

interim head coaching candidates right

26:41

on the roster, But it's a proven year

26:43

for Kellen Moore too. I'm sure he would have gotten a different

26:45

job in this cycle. There's still a lot of coordinator jobs open,

26:48

but his stock is not nearly as high. Like the Chargers

26:50

were totally disappointing last year on offense.

26:52

Got you know, he started like a house on

26:55

fire, and that happened a lot in Dallas, where

26:57

they'd start well and they finished poorly.

26:59

So if that's what happened with Kellen Moore

27:02

in Dallas, it's what happened with him in LA.

27:03

So he's got a lot to prove too.

27:04

I mean it's I have the Polder type stuff

27:06

because either you're looking at him

27:09

as one of the most like pressure packed new

27:11

coordinators in the league based on the fact that

27:13

like there's a lot of questions around everyone

27:16

on that offense. But also things melted

27:18

down so poorly and became such a nuclear

27:21

winner as the regular season ended that like, maybe

27:23

it can't get a lot worse.

27:24

And they have great players, Like they still have really

27:27

great players on offense, which matters.

27:28

Awkward vibes there right all

27:31

around it was it was an awkward end to

27:33

the season and now it just feels like an awkward

27:35

off season now too.

27:37

Yeah, and the stability around Philly, as

27:39

you're saying, is not great.

27:41

But Kellen Moore is thinking to himself, you know, maybe

27:44

this ends with me being the interim coach and maybe

27:46

we've seen, as we saw in Las Vegas

27:49

as an example, a recent example, I keep the

27:51

job if I do well. It's another it's a backdoor

27:53

way to get a job.

27:54

Head coach also means that, like you started, stuff

27:56

is terrible and you've got to fix all

27:58

that probably in four or five weeks, and that's

28:00

tough, and Kellen Moore's mind, probably the better outcome

28:03

is even like Jalen hurts his back of the m VP mix,

28:05

We're awesome and I'm a head coach a year right

28:08

now.

28:08

Or make all those guys terrible

28:10

in the first month you just fired

28:14

and then

28:16

that's a move. That's what Antonio

28:19

Pierce did. Don't don't get it twisted.

28:21

That is not what I don't think

28:24

takes on the coach calculated.

28:26

I watched that Sirianni presser by the way, and

28:28

Sirianni city next to Howie.

28:30

They were just with like a gun in his ribs.

28:33

He just felt very like, I'm

28:36

at I'm like the kid now at the

28:38

adults table, and it was just like Tony, everything

28:41

down and.

28:42

Kids have no responsibility and everything

28:44

provided for them.

28:45

So that sounds like serious.

28:46

I kind of can't wait for the Combine press

28:48

conferences to happen.

28:50

You think they'll let him do that?

28:51

Well, and then Dom will be there, big Dom.

28:54

What did they do the thing where I just put

28:56

him on the lap and then do the voice whose

28:58

lap?

28:59

Well?

28:59

You Howie, Howie he puts Sirianni

29:02

on his lap?

29:03

Does mem five? Well?

29:05

Yeah, I mean, but it's visually awkward to go

29:08

for it. Why not adults

29:10

on child's lap?

29:10

Not.

29:11

Let's spend through the rest of us real quick. And if you if

29:13

you must share hot takes, please do uh,

29:16

but but be smart about them and concise.

29:20

Arthur Smith expected to be hired by the Steelers

29:22

as their offensive coordinator John

29:25

Harbaugh or Jim Harbaugh. Excuse me, you

29:27

got to get used to that again. Who's back

29:29

in the NFL At the Chargers. He brings Michigan

29:32

DC Jesse Minter with him. Uh,

29:35

he will be yes run their defensive Browns

29:37

mark your Brown's hired Ken Dorsey as

29:40

their offensive coordinator. The Bills

29:42

promote Joe Brady from interim

29:44

to full time OC after a successful

29:47

takeover during last season. And

29:50

Bobby Bobbick as

29:52

Bills d C. Is that right, bobbych

29:54

Rabbit and anything

29:57

on those personnel moves.

30:00

I don't love Arthur Smith potentially still

30:02

not having a quarterback, but I do think

30:04

he's probably just a better OC than head coach.

30:06

In general. I think it's kind of fun.

30:08

I mean, I know Martha's Smith was frustrating

30:11

in Atlanta, but he's an upgrade

30:13

from what's been going on. I remember,

30:15

and he was fun as a coordinator in Tennessee.

30:17

So great Bigger was calling for his return

30:19

to Nashville. So you know, he did have

30:21

a lot of success.

30:22

And I thought it was telling. The ownership

30:24

there in Pittsburgh was like, we're sick of losing

30:28

like he was seeing that we have some urgency

30:31

here. We're gonna give Tomlin a long term contract, but we

30:33

have some urgency to get past what's going on.

30:34

And by that I read like.

30:37

We're gonna bring in They might be doing a

30:39

little bit more of a Jeffrey Lurry thing

30:41

where they're bringing in some people from the outside.

30:44

After hearing from Tomlin over and over, it's

30:46

like, we're gonna do how we're gonna do. Tomlin,

30:48

I think is being made to maybe open open up

30:50

the common.

30:51

He worried for George Pickens because like

30:53

Arthur Smith never utilized his top

30:56

guys like that was always He.

30:58

Did a nice job with aj Brown, though I thought, yeah,

31:00

But but I caught it right, like there's some residual

31:02

concern just based on something about him car

31:05

crash in the press conferences

31:07

where like being a head coach, it did

31:09

seem too stressful for him, and

31:11

maybe it all like impacted

31:13

like that he fits well as a coordinator.

31:15

I see that impacted his to get

31:18

increasingly frustrated by the aspects

31:20

of the job. Man, if

31:22

you put Kirk Cousins in Pittsburgh and gave

31:24

him Arthur Smith, the Steelers are cooking

31:27

with grease? Would you though, Mark I

31:29

poured them? Yes, why do I give

31:32

you? And finally chiefs.

31:33

Uh why the shot? No,

31:36

I'm saying because he's you know, he's

31:38

a brand. I don't need to worry about. I'm fine

31:40

because well

31:43

you're asking me. You

31:45

trying to lead me into a man's plain hit.

31:46

Why are you so defensive?

31:48

Why are you yelling when the Browns

31:50

can you know, hire the

31:53

coordinator that was fired Josh

31:55

Allen?

31:56

Is this quarterback? You got to do it? Charles

31:59

ameniheue? What were you saying? Nothing? I

32:01

was being.

32:03

Ken Dorsey, I like, is

32:06

just like walk about a low octane high? But it's for

32:08

Stefanski. So these these

32:10

like like Babbage under Sean mcderby,

32:12

What does that really matter?

32:13

He's the defensive.

32:14

When you hire an oc and it gets shoved into the

32:16

speed round, I think it says, it says.

32:18

But he's not calling the plays like Stefanski

32:20

is. Greg.

32:20

I do understand. I know, so I'm saying low octane

32:23

higher. Yes, I do understand

32:25

that he's not calling people.

32:26

Do love themselves some? Jesse minter? Are

32:28

we still talking about? You know? Because does

32:31

anyone remember what I said no, we don't. Does anyone

32:33

care about our speed anything? I don't know?

32:35

All right, go ahead, Greg, let's talk about Jesse Minter

32:37

now, well, because like let's get those

32:40

takes that need to be out there.

32:41

Go ahead. Imagine if you were a

32:43

Charger change, if.

32:44

I was a jetsman, I'd love to hear we played that book

32:47

as well. Go ahead, go ahead.

32:49

You're still mad about her saying you were she

32:52

she guessed let me so easily. You

32:55

emotionally manipulated me. Honest,

32:59

we're accused of splaining that's never.

33:01

A postman and cause a little chaos,

33:03

and you're the joker.

33:05

You're welcome, Go ahead, great, go ahead, When

33:08

last time to prepare you have to go chaos?

33:10

Do you understand that the last DC

33:13

that Jim Harbough found in Michigan was Mike McDonald,

33:15

who we knew nothing about and came to the NFL and

33:17

was the best defensive coach in

33:19

the league almost immediately. And everyone

33:22

says this about Minter too. So there

33:24

is something about Harbor that he develops coaches

33:26

very well, and he needs a good defensive

33:28

coach.

33:28

Well. Minter was also with the Ravens, so his brother.

33:32

There's something about these Harvy's. They know what to

33:34

do, so anything.

33:38

What was your Dorsey comment.

33:39

I don't need to go back to that place.

33:41

I'm trying to with your I

33:43

think your orderly and sensible request

33:45

that we I'm.

33:46

Just trying to get to the second part of the show, and

33:48

Colleen is on a time crunch,

33:51

so I'm gonna move on now.

33:53

Charles and many hutre's a I'm gonna time crunch

33:55

too, just to let you know.

33:56

Always so you

33:59

don't really have any where to go.

34:00

But you're on a tig after this.

34:03

It's just smoke. You just say this smoke.

34:07

Here's Andy Reid, by the way, on Kadarius

34:09

Tony who who

34:12

said that he wasn't injured and the chiefs

34:14

are lying and blah blah blah.

34:17

Here's Andy Reid.

34:18

You know obviously he's been on the injury reports,

34:20

so I mean I got that

34:23

part as uh

34:25

that's not made up by any means. But he's

34:28

been working through some things and he'll,

34:32

uh you know, he'll

34:34

be back out there.

34:35

I will saying, I like, have him back out

34:37

Go watch this and then go take

34:39

an hour and read about like body language

34:42

when people. I'm not saying that he's I think

34:44

he's took our lot. He's in a sticky

34:46

situation. But I always like to see where people's eyes

34:48

go and they respond to questions because the

34:51

upper left thing is like I'm thinking, I'm processing.

34:53

Sometimes it's like I'm not telling you exactly everything

34:55

I know.

34:56

You know, Hindy read it.

34:57

He he sort of invites this,

34:59

Ki, it's true.

35:00

I think you're right.

35:01

Yeah, Like they're like they're they're like deep studies

35:03

about them. I would just say the FBI and the CIA

35:06

if I were.

35:06

Andy read knowing what I know about

35:09

what Canarisny can provide to my team this

35:11

year?

35:12

Go take a walk.

35:14

Right, totally agree? What do you I'll

35:16

see you back at practice. Bye bye.

35:18

And I know he made big plays in the super Bowl last year, but

35:21

this ain't last year. It's a little been a

35:23

nightmare for them. But they invite that. They

35:25

that is the Chiefs. It sort of gets

35:28

lost in the trouble.

35:28

No one brings in more what

35:31

in the draft would be called character concerns

35:34

than the Chiefs. Literally Umana who who

35:37

tore his acl and is going to miss the super Bowl

35:39

now and was a really good starter for you know it wasn't

35:41

available because he was

35:43

arrested for domestic battery and assault earlier

35:46

this year. Like, that's the type of players

35:48

that the Chiefs very often bring

35:51

in and then think things come with it.

35:53

And that's what's happening in the news. Real

35:55

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over under is forty seven and

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All right, Greg? When you look at.

36:23

This money line, minus twenty

36:25

for the Niners. And I've listened to a lot of Simmons

36:27

over the year, for one's heard that minus one

36:29

twenty for them.

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Oh yeah, if

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you were to pick one of these props

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36:41

more, sixteen and a half rushing

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attempts more, nineteen and a half total

36:46

receiving rushing yards. More, how about Pacheco

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plus three thousand for MVP. I'm

36:50

just saying, like, if you think the Chiefs are gonna

36:52

win, can't you imagine this forty nine Ers defense

36:55

which has been bad week after week after

36:57

week, stopping the run that like they give up like

36:59

two hundred yard and Pacheco.

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All right, let's uh take a

37:34

break, and when we get back, PEP talks

37:36

for those who need them, some hard conversations.

37:38

Oh no, difficult ones,

37:43

all right, welcome back.

37:46

Uh, I just got another prompt

37:48

for security.

37:49

I've learned how to navigate

37:51

around it.

37:52

This tel me help me.

37:53

Well, okay, after this show later on, I

37:55

think you need to handle this and just bite the bullet.

37:57

I tried it already. Connected this

38:00

that you might I'm gonna

38:02

have to go. I did that too empty.

38:04

I'd bring the issue to Las Vegas

38:06

with you and see if maneuver around

38:08

it. But you said you have a workaround. That's good

38:11

in the moment. Yeah, but it's not. It's not

38:13

content for the show. Do you want to go on a trip

38:15

together hand in hand to it afterwards?

38:17

I don't time. What's going on? I

38:19

don't know. I have someone else. I'll come in and win. You know, it's

38:21

the dead zone before the show. What do you have going

38:23

on after the show? Got to pack

38:25

schedule, come up with.

38:26

Something just so much?

38:29

I can't even that's a doctor. All

38:31

right, here we go. Let's get to it. Not all

38:34

wrong.

38:34

PEP talks for those who need

38:36

them. Colleen, you are in

38:39

therapy yourself as you are. You've

38:41

shared with the show. It is

38:43

perfectly healthy for the

38:45

mind and body. So uh,

38:47

don't connected now. What you can do now,

38:50

what you can do is take what you've learned in

38:52

that realm. Yeah, and use that

38:54

on someone in the NFL who could use it.

38:56

Okay, okay, go ahead, all right, Well,

38:58

you know I don't I don't love having

39:00

tough conversations.

39:02

This is not my favorite thing to do.

39:04

I avoid conflict at every

39:06

possible turn.

39:08

But eventually, oh.

39:10

Though it was kind of nice what you did with Dana liter earlier.

39:14

I just done right exactly. But

39:18

there comes a point where, like the bill comes due,

39:20

and you have to face these

39:23

things you have to in order to get

39:25

through something. You need to go straight through

39:27

and process it. There's no way you can get around it.

39:30

And when you have a long history

39:32

with someone or something, that

39:34

makes it really difficult because

39:37

a lot of times being familiar and

39:39

having a habit, like it's something

39:42

that you go back to doing all the time, but that doesn't

39:44

necessarily mean that it's good for

39:46

you or it's positive.

39:47

It's just familiar.

39:48

So a lot of times you have to break the cycle and you have

39:51

to break that and I just,

39:53

you know, I don't love change, but change is necessary

39:55

for growth.

39:56

I feel like I'm in the office with you and Suzanne right now.

39:58

I feel like I should have been a psychologists, whatever.

40:02

So I really do appreciate

40:04

the time that I had with

40:07

this thing, but now

40:10

it's time to move on and we

40:12

need to stop using Roman numerals.

40:16

Oh I love this.

40:16

I'm so done with Roman numerals.

40:19

I learned them in grade school and I

40:22

never needed them again until I started

40:24

working at the NFL, and

40:27

it would just be random bits

40:29

of copy that I wouldn't know were

40:31

coming, and a producer would hand

40:33

me a piece of paper or just say read

40:36

the prompter, or it's in the script, just read

40:38

it, and which I hate

40:40

because I don't like to just read something cold

40:42

that someone else wrote that I don't know what I'm

40:44

saying. That's not my vibe, that's not what I do.

40:47

I don't ever have someone else write stuff

40:49

for me. I write all my own stuff. And I would never

40:51

use a Roman numeral

40:53

for someone that's reading something.

40:55

Cold live on the air.

40:58

When was the last time that you guys even used

41:01

a Roman numeral? Like, we're not using

41:03

Latin, like there's no

41:05

other Like if you're listening to a football game,

41:08

it's not like they would speak Latin for the penalties.

41:10

Like in high school? What why

41:13

big waste? Exactly an easy grade.

41:15

The Roman numerals need to stop.

41:17

And I thought Super Bowl fifty was going

41:19

to be the turning point because it was the first time

41:21

that they didn't use a Roman numeral for

41:23

the Super Bowl. And sure it looks nice

41:25

with like you know when you're using a lot of x's

41:28

and v's and i's, but you

41:30

know, there just comes a time to move on, and I think

41:32

that time is now and we need to drop

41:34

the Roman numerals from society.

41:37

Wow, I think it's you know, it's

41:40

marketing gold because it got

41:42

back when it was like xx and like even a child's

41:44

like super Bowl twenty. But now where it's like my

41:47

mind is scrambled. We aren't a Roman culture.

41:49

We're not HARKing back to something that came

41:51

from deep like.

41:52

Our origins are in some way, especially the idea

41:54

of the the arena and the gladiators

41:57

of the sport.

41:57

That's fair, but like i'd say, like are called

42:00

sure comes from every culture at this point. So they're

42:02

like we're melting pot if such a nod

42:04

to rome, like oh my thing

42:06

is bigger, like when it got to fifty and

42:08

you're making you fifty six or fifty

42:10

eight or then I'm trying to remember what Super Bowl

42:12

it was like, I literally can't remember the Super

42:15

Bowl from four years ago because it's been

42:17

put through a Roman number machine.

42:19

I'm I'm with you.

42:20

No, it shouldn't have an L in it, like L

42:22

is for loss, so I don't like, say

42:25

on.

42:25

The lower third this week, it's

42:27

also for love. On NFL network,

42:29

they used the number on a graphic.

42:31

It was like during they did one of the shows

42:34

during the day, maybe it was

42:36

Insiders, and I was like, maybe this maybe

42:38

they're starting to hear you because I'm with you.

42:40

This needs to change.

42:42

It was a marketing gimmick when NFL

42:44

was not popular at all and it was going

42:46

to be this big thing AFL versus

42:49

NFL, and no one cared.

42:51

Uh.

42:52

People watch that a little bit on TV, like literally

42:54

no one even showed up for the game, and they're just trying to

42:56

get some some pop into it.

42:58

Make it a gladiator. They played it in the coll see

43:00

him.

43:00

I think that was all connected, and

43:02

so they put the one and now forget.

43:04

It any research. There are just connecting

43:06

docs.

43:07

I like, oh, I've read this

43:09

is from America's game. Michael McCambridge.

43:10

Yes, what I'm saying, is that where the Roman u

43:13

erals because they played at the coliseum.

43:14

That I don't know, but it would make sense the more

43:17

that they're like, they were trying to pump it up into this

43:19

big thing because people weren't really into the

43:21

AFL. People weren't that into

43:23

professional football, but they definitely weren't into the and

43:25

there was this new thing, and everyone thought,

43:28

well, who cares about this game? The NFL championship

43:30

already happened. They sort of saw this as like a

43:33

preseason game that's being played after,

43:35

you know, and so they gave it a little more half.

43:38

But I don't know if that which is why, Yeah,

43:40

what happened in Super Bowl three with name it

43:42

was so important because when the AFL

43:45

beat the NFL, it legitimized

43:47

that league and then they came together.

43:49

Now that's it.

43:50

I think I've probably done a

43:52

similar monologue on the show.

43:54

I kind of hazily remember it years ago.

43:56

But now about banning Roman numerals,

43:59

But now I'm back on the other side.

44:00

I think it's tradition and uh, and

44:03

here's and here's the other thing. Here's the

44:05

other thing.

44:06

We had the chance, as we pointed out, they went

44:08

with the number fifty for

44:10

San Francisco, and that was a

44:12

huge to do. The celebration around the fiftieth

44:15

anniversary. The year after that

44:17

and the next few years after that were horrendous

44:20

orderline embarrassing to use.

44:22

L one L I L. I

44:24

just looked to the eye.

44:26

If they did, if they had the chance to

44:28

move, and they didn't, guess

44:30

what, We're not going to get one hundred until.

44:33

I mean, we're not going to get the number back until one hundred,

44:35

and we're even gonna be alive that the next

44:37

time you see one hundred a number next to a super

44:39

Bowl the figure that is

44:42

probably when it's gonna happen.

44:43

I will say unlikely would be the answer,

44:46

but possibly the other. In

44:48

professional wrestling, WrestleMania almost.

44:50

Certainly took it after the Super Bowl, and

44:52

they used Roman number numerals up to

44:55

thirty before they decided it

44:57

doesn't really work anymore.

44:58

So, especially wrestling fans don't operate

45:01

in that mode. Mentally, i'd say,

45:03

why do you say that? I don't know why I said.

45:05

That, But in general, whenever

45:07

you can follow the path of

45:09

Vince McMahon, you do. And I think we could

45:11

all agree in terms of a intellectual

45:14

and moral compass.

45:15

So was that a point

45:17

counterpoint? Like was that also your presentation?

45:19

Oh yeah, but yours is. I get what

45:21

you're saying. That was a tough talk. But who was it to is

45:23

the marketing arm of the league or

45:26

what? Or to Roman numerals himself?

45:28

Like who was your he's

45:31

questioning your understanding.

45:32

That No, not at all, it's just

45:34

like who was it directly

45:37

to the Roman numerals?

45:38

It's time.

45:39

Well that's confusing, but like you served

45:42

your purpose and you're really nice.

45:44

It would be funny to watch it kind of turning

45:46

around and sadly walking away like fifty

45:49

eight el elf Bury one

45:51

one. I I like, just walking

45:53

away, sulking into the around

45:56

the bend, never to be seen again, and then

45:58

all proud like fifty eighth number

46:00

walks in and takes a spot like, well,

46:05

she brought it up. She turned

46:07

it into talking to the actual numerals, So

46:10

we're gonna humanize them

46:14

now.

46:14

I can't stop, all right?

46:17

Uh? Can I talk since

46:20

we brought out? Okay, I talk to Bill? Oh

46:23

yeah, I think you need to.

46:26

Which is weird that I'm even doing this because

46:28

obviously I have a complicated relationship

46:31

with the men personally in terms

46:33

of my fandom and the history and everything

46:36

around the Patriots, and but

46:39

I feel like this guy needs and

46:41

needs a little pick me up because

46:44

bub you're a legend. I

46:48

think somebody needs to tell them that right now. I feel

46:51

like, you know, Linda's

46:53

not even around to tell them. I don't know if I think.

46:56

I think, if you listen to, maybe demanding

46:58

to take over the entire Falcons organization is

47:00

a sign he's still feeling that way.

47:02

Well, we don't know that. Again, we don't

47:04

know the details of the conversation. I kind of wish,

47:06

well, I'll get to that. There's a lot of conjecture

47:09

around and discourse around. You're

47:11

right now, Bill, and everybody says

47:13

you're too old, and you're too power hungry, and

47:16

you're you're yesterday's news. And

47:18

I just want you to know that you're.

47:20

The best man. You're the best, there is,

47:22

the best, there was, the best there ever will be.

47:25

You know, you're him

47:28

that the kids say you're goaded like,

47:30

don't let like people like Greg

47:33

tell you you're not great anymore, and you're

47:35

and you don't deserve to be in power anymore

47:38

or to build a team again, because

47:41

all I know update

47:43

device one moment.

47:46

The same, don't do the Julian Edelman to

47:48

Tom Brady motivation that you're

47:50

you're too old and.

47:52

Yeah no, like you got eleven super

47:54

Bowls, bub you got eight titles, six

47:56

as a head coach. The idea

47:59

of you, Bill wasting your

48:02

another year of your prime and you are in your prime,

48:04

baby fake laughing

48:06

with JB and Howie while

48:09

Terry bumbles yet another read on the

48:11

teleprompter. It's beneath

48:13

you. It's uncouth.

48:15

It was like, Oh, Bill's fine, He'll go to the Fox

48:17

and sit on the dais Are you kidding me?

48:20

Bill Belichick? Like, that's what we're

48:22

cool with. He would he would

48:25

make his own role. He would make his.

48:26

Own What if they put him in a booth with Brady though, that.

48:29

Would be fun. I would be okay with that.

48:31

It's beneath you.

48:34

And it's strange to say this, but I really

48:36

do think Bill Belichick in a in a weird

48:38

way as being blackballed right now.

48:41

And I want to know why. I want to know

48:43

why, Greg.

48:45

I want to know why because it feels

48:47

like like Barry Bonds is his

48:49

last year in baseball he had a four to eighty

48:51

on base percentage, hit close to thirty

48:54

home runs, couldn't get a job.

48:56

That guy was a cheater. You're not a cheat, all

48:58

right, No, forget about that. Maybe

49:01

it's because you're not a GQ model like Dave

49:03

Knalas like, maybe that's what

49:05

it's about. Maybe there are people out there that

49:08

are saying that you're both frumpy and grumpy,

49:10

which is a terrible thing to say, but

49:13

it's out there in the discourse, and the

49:15

fact that you don't fit the mold of the

49:17

modern head coach, as if having

49:20

high cheek bones and

49:22

a chisel jawline helps

49:26

you, you know, do January

49:28

kneel downs after W's with confetti

49:30

raining down?

49:31

Doesn't it help it all? I can tell

49:33

you them personally that it helps, but don't

49:35

let them. Don't let them do

49:37

it? Why because it

49:39

Stefanski.

49:42

Or I was suggesting that

49:44

I had high cheekbones. That's obviously enough.

49:48

So, yeah, you don't fit the prototype of

49:50

the quote modern head coach.

49:52

Whatever, But is

49:55

that Bill? Is there anything else you'd like to share?

49:58

Did you watch the game on Monday? Yes?

50:01

I saw both games and

50:03

they actually were on Sunday and

50:05

Bill, this is the type of stuff we got to keep under our hat

50:07

a little bit, just because people are asking questions about

50:09

your age. Just you

50:12

know, let's play this the right way. Bill, play

50:15

this right way and understand

50:17

that you are loved and appreciated, and

50:20

don't let the discourse get you

50:22

down.

50:25

That's it. I think he needs that right

50:28

now. I don't know. I think he's getting beat up a little.

50:30

Bit, but well timed talk, because he could be at the

50:32

point where, no matter what he's accomplished

50:35

or any what anyone's told him and what he's read about

50:37

himself, that there could be a little bit of a imposter

50:39

syndrome setting. You're a little bit old, you're

50:42

staring out windows, the phone's not ringing.

50:45

Everyone thought you were a home run for this job. You get

50:47

passed over for someone you know, thirty years

50:49

younger.

50:49

Everybody wants to stick them in the nursing home.

50:51

Like he's junior soprano, Like you're not corrato,

50:54

like you still have something to give. And

50:56

then people pile on

50:58

by saying he's money, he's

51:00

power hungry, and of course you pass on a minute's

51:03

power hungry because he didn't make mac Jones

51:05

a champion. It's like, give him

51:07

a chance, give him one more chance. I

51:09

want to see him coach again.

51:11

Then maybe he can finally experience success.

51:14

Right. I told you it's conflicting

51:16

for me. I don't need you know.

51:17

I want to see him coach again. I think he could do a

51:19

great job. When I watched

51:21

him this year. I love Belichick. I've read all the books

51:24

about him, Like I consider myself like a Belichick

51:26

a file, like he's my guy even

51:28

more than Brady was during that during that

51:30

run, I really

51:32

saw a coach this year. I think that knew

51:35

exactly where he is in history, was fine with

51:37

it. Wasn't enjoying what was going on there,

51:40

but absolutely was able to celebrate where

51:42

his place in the history of the game is

51:44

and who he is as a patriot, all this stuff. And I

51:47

think he's very comfortable with himself, and

51:49

maybe he couldn't

51:52

see in this cycle a

51:54

vision of like him not running everything.

51:57

And I totally understand why owner

51:59

owners would he hesitant to do that. It's like same thing

52:01

like no one hired Tom Landry after Dallas after

52:03

the Cowboys. You think you don't think he was like

52:05

a better coach than some of the people that but

52:07

like, no, he was Tom Landry and he was going to take everything

52:10

that Tom Landry was with him. And

52:12

a year away from the game, I think might

52:14

be great for Bill Belichick the coach, Like even

52:17

if he wants to come back and coach next

52:19

year, being able to look at the whole league and take.

52:21

A step back.

52:22

He's such a football genius that

52:24

this I think could give him like a different perspective.

52:27

Whether he wants to do a little bit of TV or

52:29

not, We'll see. He'll make that into his own

52:31

sort of Belichi, what changes one year from

52:33

now?

52:34

If you're saying part of the issue why people might

52:36

not want him is because he wants to do it his own

52:38

way. Is he not a year from now, after a year the

52:40

game going to say I don't need to moderation.

52:44

Maybe maybe just the right option comes

52:46

up and people are a year removed,

52:48

or maybe he changes or he has different

52:50

ideas of what he would do, or maybe he takes

52:53

away some of the requirements,

52:56

like in terms of control and everything.

52:58

Because I'm with you, it would be

53:00

fun to see him, to.

53:01

Hear from him cry again, I really would love to hear

53:03

from him if there was someone in the media

53:06

that he trusted and just a or

53:08

if he did a press conference. I know this isn't his style,

53:11

but I just feel like there's so many things being affixed

53:13

to him, what he wants and what he demands, and we don't

53:15

really know anything.

53:16

CBS Sports Jonathan Jones said several

53:19

sources expect Belichip to take a job

53:21

in television, which would indicate there's probably been some

53:23

back door talking. And

53:25

one quote this really made left. Every network

53:27

would want him. He would revolutionize

53:30

media with the way he prepares. I mean, okay, that's

53:32

what But he was great with Tariko

53:34

before the Super Bowl. That's the role I could see him in these

53:36

little parts where he just sort of does a Belichick

53:39

telestrator.

53:39

He's Sunday, He's not.

53:41

City on the tell, but even maybe he does one

53:43

Sunday but it's just a Belichick's segment.

53:45

He was a.

53:45

Totally different person than I

53:47

have ever seen in NFL atmospheres.

53:50

When he was on College Game Day on ESPN

53:52

this year, on the set, I didn't I

53:55

was like, is this his twin brother? Who

53:57

is this person that is sitting up there

54:00

in Bill Belichick's body. He was

54:02

smiling, he was laughing, he was

54:04

making jokes. He was all in like

54:06

he was. They were giving him stuff to do and

54:09

he was buying in. He was yes, anding

54:11

everything like he was. He

54:13

looked like he was happy and he was in

54:15

his element doing that. Now, maybe

54:18

he's happy when he's on the sidelines

54:20

in New England when it doesn't look

54:22

like it, maybe he's happy on the inside. But

54:25

this really looked like he was glowing

54:27

in that role. And I liked that for him. I

54:29

liked I liked him there

54:31

like it just seemed.

54:32

Right for him.

54:34

Brady and Belichick and the Fox both together, right,

54:37

that'd be awesome.

54:38

Probably maybe it wouldn't be, but it'd be fun. You

54:40

would have to watch who's the play by play

54:43

guy you put with him. Let's just let's put it together right now.

54:46

Well, Al,

54:48

we should

54:53

not be demoted on any level.

54:54

But give me this old, this old krusty

54:56

booth of Al Belichick

54:59

and Brady.

55:00

Let's go give me a couple of years, because this

55:02

is only a year.

55:02

By the way, this is he's I think he's going back into

55:05

coaching eventually, I think.

55:06

But but in the booth

55:09

too, like that, I think that that role

55:11

seeing him in that role would be so interesting

55:13

because a lot of people haven't even seen him

55:16

in like the happy I'm relaxed,

55:18

I'm here to just hang out and talk about football, and I

55:20

love it role, let alone calling a game

55:22

role.

55:23

I mean we get right back into the world of like which one

55:25

or the other is lifting each other up and making them look

55:27

better in front of the I don't know.

55:29

If that's true. I can't really work

55:31

together.

55:32

I do like the the the old Travolta

55:34

movie Wild Hogs vibe of putting

55:37

Al, Tom and

55:39

Bill in the booth and be like, Hey, everyone

55:42

thinks you're done all three.

55:44

Al, you're washed.

55:45

Bill, You're you have no personality,

55:47

and nobody likes you. Tom like you.

55:50

You're not cut out for this. You you don't deserve

55:52

a number.

55:52

One year off You're you're no Greg

55:54

Olson.

55:55

And you're no Gregil And then letting them

55:57

revolutionize the sport or

56:01

the broadcasting business.

56:02

All right, Greg wild Hogum.

56:05

All right, we probably only have so much time, right

56:07

We're doing this once? Yeah,

56:09

one time around, Okay, because I've been starting to prep

56:11

for a.

56:13

Free agency list the off season stuff.

56:15

You're right now during.

56:16

The show, No getting up a

56:19

drinking some egg yolks hardly, but I

56:21

started to, you know, tinker with the list, and there's

56:24

some around tires.

56:25

There's some big tire.

56:26

There's some big names out there that I think are going to

56:28

get to this free agency period and they're

56:30

going to be like a little disappointed. Guys

56:32

like a Chase Young or an

56:34

Austin Ecklor Devin White, guys who thought

56:37

maybe going into this they were going to change their life with these

56:39

big time contracts and they get there and

56:42

it's a little disappointing. But I'm going to have

56:44

the hardest talk with

56:46

a free agent who's facing a different challenge.

56:49

And it's really for the teams that are

56:51

out there circling this free agent, and

56:53

it's it's a little bit for you too, Dan, And

56:57

it's for everyone that's getting

56:59

ready to give Kirk Cousins one

57:02

hundred million dollars guaranteed over

57:04

for two years because I think he'll get that money

57:06

and it and it's a little for Kirk too, because

57:08

Kirk, the history

57:11

of thirty six year old quarterbacks

57:14

coming off a torn achilles tear

57:17

expected to save a franchise,

57:20

you know, is doesn't exist. It's

57:23

a little for Aaron Rodgers too, the history of forty

57:26

year old quarterbacks coming back from an

57:28

achilles tear and expected to raise a franchise.

57:30

But he's different, doesn't exist. It's

57:32

different, Kirk

57:35

like you. We've watched you on this show.

57:38

The ups, the downs, and what I always

57:40

remember with with Chris always

57:42

a supporter of Kirk, and he was right.

57:44

I think for about we

57:46

were the kissing Cousin.

57:47

For six games every season, pretty

57:50

and I remember this as a qb INEX writer.

57:52

For six games every season, he

57:55

is like the fifth best quarterback.

57:56

In the entire league. He's elite.

57:58

And then other things happen. There's ups, there's

58:00

downs, and I

58:03

know Kirk was improving. It was in this system for Minnesota.

58:06

Kirk Cousins, like you tore your achilles

58:08

right at the pick of peak of those six games,

58:11

and that's all anyone remembers. No one

58:13

really remembers the ten years

58:15

before that. There were there was ups, there were downs

58:17

where you were very good. You were a

58:19

better than average starting quarterback

58:22

without a doubt, but you weren't

58:24

like MVP conversation Kirk

58:26

Cousins.

58:27

The whole time.

58:28

You were that for about a month every year,

58:30

and you never knew when that month was gonna come, but

58:33

it usually didn't last. Now

58:35

you're thirty six years old and you're

58:37

coming off a torn achilles.

58:39

That to me is a massive

58:43

red flag in the sense that if a rookie

58:45

was coming in with a torn achilles, imagine how that would

58:47

affect their draft stock. And yet teams aren't

58:49

going to care. They're gonna watch those last six

58:51

games of the season, see how excellent it

58:54

was. Maybe it's gonna be Minnesota. And because

58:56

quarterbacks are so underpaid, I believe

58:58

like the value of Patrick Mahomes

59:00

in a in a free market would be five

59:04

hundred million dollars or something

59:06

like that. Something bonkers that we can't even

59:08

imagine that Kirk is going to get all this money,

59:10

because it's very rare that these quarterbacks are actually

59:12

available. But I think you got to have

59:14

a hard conversation with yourself, Kirk,

59:16

of who you're going to be coming back and

59:19

teams who you expect him

59:21

to be when he comes back before

59:23

you pay him more money. And he's probably

59:25

gonna cost more money than justin

59:27

Herbert and all these guys on a year to year base.

59:29

So you're not suggesting that Cousins

59:33

pull back the reins and

59:35

say, I don't need as much.

59:36

Now takewa you hear talking, What are you going to do talking

59:38

to the team. Yes, But just like the talcons.

59:40

Don't necessarily believe that you're gonna come in

59:42

and you're gonna be at that level that you were at

59:45

before.

59:45

There's nothing he can do.

59:47

He doesn't strike me as someone like, you know, drenched

59:49

in hubris to begin now like.

59:51

But expectation wise, I just feel

59:53

like everyone saying, Okay, let's

59:55

slot in Kirk Cousins, and he's that guy

59:57

when he's either joining a new team or

1:00:00

he's.

1:00:00

Coming off a torn achilles. It's just a lot to

1:00:02

ask.

1:00:02

Yeah, new team or

1:00:05

maybe not new team, new offense,

1:00:07

new expectations, all that stuff. But he,

1:00:10

you know, he's no stranger to being doubted himself,

1:00:12

whether it was in Washington or Minnesota

1:00:14

going into this year, you know, Minnesota

1:00:16

actively letting it be known that we're not looking to

1:00:19

do more business with you, and then he went out

1:00:21

and was playing maybe the best ball of his career before

1:00:23

the injury. I think he's a little different

1:00:25

than Aaron Rodgers because he is, you

1:00:27

know, four or five years younger, even

1:00:30

Testa Verdi or had an achilles

1:00:32

came back, wasn't the same he was I think

1:00:34

thirty seven or thirty eight by that

1:00:36

point. He's not a guy that's known for

1:00:39

being an explosive athlete to start

1:00:41

with. He's, you know, part of a dying breed, almost

1:00:43

of a pocket passer. So I think

1:00:45

you have things working to his advantage.

1:00:47

Now, would it be an overpay if he's a

1:00:50

slightly lesser version of what he was previously,

1:00:52

Yes, but what he instantly, in my mind,

1:00:54

still brings stability.

1:00:56

To your quarterback position.

1:00:57

Also, yes, it's yeah,

1:01:00

there's some buyer beware, but I would

1:01:02

live with it if I were a team that if I had Kenny

1:01:04

Pickett and Mitch Trubisky, uh

1:01:07

and Mason Rudolph in house to use that Steelers example

1:01:09

again, or Desmond Ritter or Sam

1:01:12

Howe, like like a.

1:01:13

Two year deal we're talking about here, you're not signing

1:01:15

away like the rest of time.

1:01:17

I guess it would depend on what his market is. But yeah,

1:01:19

two three year deal, I'd

1:01:21

still do it.

1:01:22

I guess that is what I'm saying. But there's absolutely

1:01:24

a chance that.

1:01:24

I could be One thing I like about what you said though it's

1:01:26

like the teams are just glued watching his tape,

1:01:29

his high at the high end of his tape from last season.

1:01:31

It's like his health is a complete unknown.

1:01:34

Like your pept know that your pep talk

1:01:36

could also equally and maybe more appropriately

1:01:38

be directed at these teams.

1:01:39

Anything really is where I would be.

1:01:41

But that's but Kirk's He'll be a little bit confused

1:01:43

when you're saying to him at the same time to be like Greg,

1:01:46

they're all good points.

1:01:48

What do you want like me to do? I'm not sure I

1:01:51

have played the colleagden artists. I've played

1:01:53

the colleat and role of not really understanding the assignment.

1:01:56

But it's it's good, it's interesting. So

1:01:59

he's an unre strictly free agent. He is

1:02:01

Is he number one? He's

1:02:03

not going to be number one.

1:02:04

It's a quarterback.

1:02:05

I would think I would have built in and if the

1:02:07

value like in terms of I.

1:02:09

Have a hard time with Chris, Joe, Josh, there's

1:02:11

there's a I don't know.

1:02:13

I guess I haven't.

1:02:13

Fully discied dout not

1:02:16

till February. When's the last time

1:02:19

Chris Jones is in the mix. Josh Allen from the

1:02:21

Jaguars is in the mix. Kirk's

1:02:24

obviously in the mix.

1:02:25

But if Cousins is Cousins, he's,

1:02:28

well, I don't.

1:02:28

Know, injury her Cousins was playing at a top

1:02:31

what eight level as a quarterback and now he's a free

1:02:33

agent injury.

1:02:34

Wait, who's the last time there was a big name veteran

1:02:37

quarterback. That's what I was. I was looking for Cousins.

1:02:40

That was the last time it's happened or

1:02:42

something good.

1:02:46

I think he was number one, like

1:02:49

on the list that actually gets put out when free agency

1:02:51

starts. Usually there's this first list where it's like Lamar

1:02:53

Jackson was number one last year because he technically

1:02:56

was.

1:02:56

What about the pretenders that put out a similar

1:02:58

list? Where are they put in Kirk?

1:02:59

Right now?

1:02:59

We don't talk about them.

1:03:01

I don't.

1:03:02

My process is I do

1:03:04

not look at those, and I do look at them the

1:03:06

minute I have my list, and then I

1:03:08

think, oh, okay, that's interesting that I miss anyone, But

1:03:11

I do not want to look until.

1:03:13

I have it all right, Mark close it out

1:03:15

for us.

1:03:16

I did not misunderstand the assignment,

1:03:19

but I took it less

1:03:21

as a pep talk.

1:03:21

And more as a warning to yourself.

1:03:24

And it's not based on the

1:03:27

fan base of this team, who I

1:03:29

think have been through hell. They've seen

1:03:31

their team relocated, they

1:03:33

have been let down a year after year, They've

1:03:35

been overly pumped up as a team that's going to go to the

1:03:37

super Bowl almost every summer, and they find

1:03:40

a way to undress it.

1:03:41

Well, we've all done it. Everyone's guilty of it.

1:03:44

This is directed at the team that I find

1:03:46

already to be on my radar.

1:03:49

It is the Chargers.

1:03:50

You hire Jim Harbaugh, great job,

1:03:52

great move, way to regalvanize your

1:03:55

marketing, everything else. But the

1:03:57

attitude around some of what I'm seeing has

1:03:59

me a little annoyed, and I think it has

1:04:02

to the fans. I wish the fans all

1:04:04

the good, so don't confuse that. That's all i'd say to

1:04:06

the team and to the people messaging

1:04:08

what this off season means, because we go through this

1:04:11

with one or two teams every off season and it

1:04:13

usually ends in total wreckage. I would say

1:04:15

this, Chargers, don't over

1:04:17

celebrate. Okay, took a couple

1:04:19

bullet points here.

1:04:21

I love it.

1:04:21

Don't caress yourselves and put special oils

1:04:24

on your forehead just yet. Settle

1:04:26

down your social media team. Stop

1:04:29

naming pets after Jim Harbaugh. Go

1:04:31

stark and spartan and dark

1:04:34

and work in the shadows. Become pure

1:04:36

evil. Take out the enemy with a

1:04:38

complete lack of mercy and restraint. Destroy

1:04:40

houses and townships. Don't even view

1:04:43

children as vulnerable. Animals are your

1:04:45

enemy too. Rip roads and highways

1:04:47

to shreds. Pull fruit off fruit

1:04:49

trees and burn it in stinking piles.

1:04:52

Destroy books and films.

1:04:53

Celebrating anything in your way, less

1:04:56

self celebratory tweeting, and twenty

1:04:59

twenty three, before you've accomplished a single

1:05:01

particle of good, before you tell us how

1:05:03

great it all is in essence, be everything

1:05:05

the Chargers have never been, or leave.

1:05:07

Us be go

1:05:10

do it? Do you have a kid? Kill kids in there?

1:05:12

I said, don't assume the kids are vulnerable

1:05:14

or innocence, something.

1:05:15

Like why the fruit trees?

1:05:17

What wreckage anything

1:05:20

in your way?

1:05:21

Enough with telling us now on Twitter that

1:05:23

everything's perfect Like you these

1:05:25

teams. I get what they're doing, and it's mostly

1:05:27

for children or gullibles, but like,

1:05:30

settle down with yourselves, go start

1:05:32

five and oh and we down Patrick Mahomes.

1:05:34

And we also push that out to.

1:05:38

People who celebrate the Chargers

1:05:40

a lot and just be like, do

1:05:43

we have to hear it again now this summer?

1:05:44

Yes, to celebrate though, but.

1:05:49

This is like Jets Aaron Rodgers heart

1:05:51

k but this year is different, right?

1:05:54

But this to me was a targeted attack,

1:05:57

an isolated attack on the team itself.

1:05:59

And then I hope the media would understand to

1:06:02

take on tell.

1:06:02

You why it will not.

1:06:04

My takeaway here is Mark needs to mute

1:06:06

the Chargers account for our mental

1:06:08

health.

1:06:09

Yes, so I'll tell you why it's different than instance,

1:06:12

the Jets had hard knocks Greg because

1:06:14

nobody was pumping up that team before Rogers

1:06:16

got there. We've been hearing the Chargers get

1:06:18

pumped up for years and years for different reasons.

1:06:21

App the Chargers like making their

1:06:24

little av I Harbaugh and doing

1:06:26

funny little Harbor videos.

1:06:28

I don't even think Jim Harbaugh would like that

1:06:30

or really want that.

1:06:31

Harbor doesn't even know the Internet, and I think

1:06:33

I know. But his thing isn't

1:06:35

let's come and anoint me and put it

1:06:37

on your overall game.

1:06:39

He kind of is like he went on CBS

1:06:42

and he was like, I was starstruck meeting Justin

1:06:44

Herbert. He is kind of like a hype creator.

1:06:46

Not on purpose, but he just naturally.

1:06:48

That guy let.

1:06:49

Him do it without telling us that he's already

1:06:51

done it. But I don't need to hear that. You're starstruck by

1:06:53

Justin Herbert. Just make him a star.

1:06:55

Are they going to be on hard knocks?

1:06:57

Oh my gosh, well wait, new coach

1:06:59

though new coach. I thought that they Yeah, but they

1:07:01

can't they kill that. No, they didn't kill

1:07:03

it, but a team can volunteer. It

1:07:07

suggests they will at this point.

1:07:09

They probably, But you're

1:07:11

saying you don't want them to that this is that would be a

1:07:13

perfect example of don't go on.

1:07:15

Hard I actually would want that time about the act.

1:07:18

That's a whole separate thing. But that would be a spicy,

1:07:20

juicy access. We're going

1:07:22

to manifest it, all right.

1:07:25

I like it burning the fruit. I liked killing

1:07:27

the kids, not as I didn't say kill kids. I said

1:07:30

the text.

1:07:32

Don't even view children, destroy houses

1:07:34

and townships. Don't even view children as vulnerable.

1:07:36

Don't be fooled by a child?

1:07:37

Are they saying I destroy everything,

1:07:39

including children who don't view

1:07:41

them as don't they assume vulnerable?

1:07:43

Right? They may be in your way. They may fool you.

1:07:46

I'm glad that they may lure this.

1:07:47

If I was a little confused, there's probably other people that'd

1:07:49

be like, what about kids?

1:07:51

Well, but now now you've clarified that.

1:07:53

Even so, I'm not saying you shouldn't view children as

1:07:55

vulnerable. The Chargers should not. That's

1:07:57

also it was. It's not a societal

1:07:59

message.

1:08:00

What about Phil Rivers's children.

1:08:03

There's that's an army. It's not attached to

1:08:05

the it's not attached to the organization. At

1:08:07

this point, well, he's like.

1:08:08

A member of their Ring of Honor, and then it applies

1:08:10

to his children if

1:08:12

you're the Chargers, not Philip Rivers. All

1:08:15

right, they're

1:08:18

not above suspicion, trust no one. They're

1:08:20

not above suspicion. Right, Not

1:08:25

totally clear, but I'm with you, says

1:08:27

dog. Thank you mostly

1:08:30

got another updated. All

1:08:33

right, here's here's

1:08:35

the situation.

1:08:37

By the way, voting closed on that award

1:08:41

over overseas and they're announcing

1:08:44

a winner on Thursday.

1:08:45

Oh wow, did you guys vote for yourselves

1:08:47

or no?

1:08:47

No, of course not no. Get

1:08:49

to give them an email, uncouth. It is one of those

1:08:51

things.

1:08:52

And I'll tell you this, Mark, I

1:08:55

know you're resolute as a person,

1:08:58

stand by it. If we

1:09:00

do not win that award, you will not

1:09:03

have Dan and Mark on the

1:09:05

show. And those that want a solo

1:09:07

Greg around the NFL, they're.

1:09:09

Gonna get it. You're gonna get it. So well.

1:09:11

The only problem, well know, by right,

1:09:14

I'm being in real time. What

1:09:17

we we made it clear last week. We said,

1:09:20

if if you don't vote us the victors of

1:09:22

this particular contest,

1:09:25

we're going to Mexico or somewhere else.

1:09:27

And then we said, do you want to join us too? Greg? And Greg

1:09:29

goes now, so now you're

1:09:31

staying here show

1:09:35

ten nominees.

1:09:36

I think I remember this. I was here for.

1:09:37

Yeah, okay, yeah, I we asked you if you wanted

1:09:39

to join us in the walkout you.

1:09:41

Did calling to Mexico.

1:09:43

Well, I just assumed it's not too late. Do you want to join

1:09:45

us when when there's ten nominees?

1:09:47

Don't love that attitude.

1:09:48

The only problem with this call to action happening right

1:09:50

now.

1:09:51

People now are spurred like I don't want too late,

1:09:53

too late voting.

1:09:55

So we did give them a week, we

1:09:57

did.

1:09:57

I we could have put it out on different platforms if

1:09:59

we really if we're just leaving, but we are leaving the show.

1:10:01

I will leave the show.

1:10:02

Lessons we're learned.

1:10:03

I mean we could if you want to. No, no, no,

1:10:05

no, your word. We said it. We're leaving. We

1:10:07

will leave.

1:10:08

Yeah, no empty threats.

1:10:09

Here, Where

1:10:11

are we gonna go? Wait? I can still take Colleen right

1:10:13

north or Satric.

1:10:15

I might be going with them.

1:10:16

Though, Greg take the ambition and

1:10:18

take it under the tape.

1:10:19

Is already formulating a new lineup.

1:10:23

See who's available at least? Oh my god,

1:10:26

it's so real. All right,

1:10:28

I've seen Bill Barnwell at the moment, Bill,

1:10:31

I think they lost.

1:10:32

I voted against them. All

1:10:34

Right, here we go. We'll be back on Thursday.

1:10:37

It is the annual don't say super

1:10:39

Bowl show. So if you're already sick,

1:10:41

if you're annoyed about the teams

1:10:43

in the game, you just want to talk about something else to connect

1:10:45

to the NFL, that's your show either

1:10:48

Connie, thank you, Yeah, you've said

1:10:50

it all.

1:10:50

We'll do it again. Let's do it again.

1:10:53

Heed the call.