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You're Around the NFL podcast.

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Bang Bang Aten Gang.

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From Radio Row in

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Las Vegas, Nevada's Around

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the NFL Super Bowl Week Show

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three of four. On our final

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show from Radio Row. As we head

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into the weekend and then the biggest

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football game of the year, Dan

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Hans is here with the heroes, Greg

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Rosenthal and Mark Sessler,

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and yes, we got another great show coming up.

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Great guests, great conversations,

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go over NFL honors, the

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Hall of Fame announcements, make

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our game predictions, some sandwiches on

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the line.

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Let's have some fun last.

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Show of the week before Super

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Bowl fifty eight kicks off.

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No, fine, we'll be had. We are serious

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football people. I don't think we

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are.

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It sounds like Greg when we drove by the pinball museum

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and he's like, wait, what's pinball?

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Were definitely born planet,

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but Greg, but that was stunning to me. Hemans

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will know. My brain just wasn't working.

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I was thinking candle like it was a different version

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of candlepin bowling because it looked like a bowling alley or.

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So I was like, what the hell, let's not lose the site

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that there is an actual pinball museum.

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Yeah, what is I think there could be some

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cool items in there.

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We're talking like nineteen seventy two pinball

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machine where the.

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Gen xers are definitely feeling the pinball.

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I'm I'm not rushing over there, but

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I think it might have some charm. It

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is.

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It is sad that the pinball has lost its

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cultural cachet, but the museum

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is here for those who are still.

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Yes, it is. How are you feeling, Mark? How are

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we? You know what?

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Like?

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I am just here to do like what I could

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do the best I can. No, I'm

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not.

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It's like it's it's it's it's a lost super

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Bowl level. But because

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I I don't think I've seen

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Las Vegas at all. I feel I've been in my hotel

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room and then wheeled over to this facility

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and then we'll.

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Have to taking Mark to the set in a wheelchair.

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People should know that the full story of what's happening

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here.

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Yes, we Uh, Dan and I

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did you know they rarely tried bang

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bang? Last night, two dinners

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both you know, great great company,

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A six o'clock dinner with our

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producer Eric and uh and

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our great friend Matt Casey from NBC. And then when

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we're on our way to the second dinner where we're going to

2:18

see a handsome Hank and our friend Connor or we

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actually saw a young

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man wearing His

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name is Will Soystrom, and

2:29

uh Will was wearing a sweatshirt

2:31

with our faces on it, the old Room

2:34

full of Heroes sweatshirt that someone

2:36

had like sort of illegally made and sold

2:38

on our having.

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That's fine, it's good to it's all.

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It'd be nice if we made a dollar of merch income

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at some point in our career, but that's.

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Not Will's fault.

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I like that.

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The fact he was repping repping

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us and we just walked by him in

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the casino is an amazing.

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Like everybody's minds were appropriately blown,

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but just the happenstance of it all.

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And then he was like, where's Mark And we're like, well, Mark's under

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the weather.

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He was, well, I always whenever

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anything happened, there's an air of disappointment from Dan

3:04

and Greg and I think they've been vaguely don't

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believe that I've been ill, but I've been hotel

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room the entire We believe you.

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I am, I believe you.

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It's been an odd week. I have I.

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Floor though, and I've had an incredible view of

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what's out in Vegas.

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It's a surreal sight.

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That that

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that meeting, a chance meeting, is

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right there with me too. A couple

3:30

of years ago when we were walking through the streets

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of London and not

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a young man, a young bloke was walking

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towards us, and he stops in his tracks.

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He pulls his AirPods out and he just

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doesn't say where, he just points at him and he goes, I'm

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listening to you Mite,

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which is pretty tribute to So it's very cool to

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see and we have over the course of this week

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people have been, uh

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coming up to us. Yesterday at dinner

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there's a jr VP fan and

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somebody came up and said, once throwback podcast

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coming back? So all the satellite what about our

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Bang Bang two? Mark featured

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the great Connor or Yes and

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handsome Hank right, and now now

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the only question is does the Heat and Light podcast

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return?

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We get questions about that, either

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individually or combined on a

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I would say a if not weekly

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three or four times a week basis on.

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Twitter, and there's

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some people out there that want it.

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I think it's you know, we ran into tech issues

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last time. Those have been wiped away, and I think Connor

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and I are more free now.

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You guys are on an amazing platform.

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I remember that we literally had a meeting

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with the great people of iHeart earlier this week

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and like, if you guys have any ideas to do a show, like,

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we'd love to do one with you.

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I could see it coming back. I mean, Connor and

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I want to you want to leave a heating light of water,

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but can you make a drink?

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It's like, do you want to do the sequel to something twenty

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five years later? The fans wanted, like that's what

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that's what we're.

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Working for, the Phantom Menace heat too, not

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a little bit of heat too? All

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right, so good stuff,

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great stuff. Let's let's get into it. Let's

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start with everything that went down here

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in Vegas at the annual

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NFL Honors Award

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Awards, in which they you know,

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make all the announcements.

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Prince Harry was in the house. How about that thank

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you on his job.

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I think that was the news of the week to me, is that

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Prince Harry is being, you

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know, tugged from place to place and made

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move handsome.

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Hank the guy was like fourteenth

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in line for the throne, and now he's like one of the

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biggest celebrities in the world. And all he had

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to do was turn his back on everything that he was

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connected to in his life. There's something

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to take out of that. Perhaps, I don't know, let's

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get into it. I

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don't have a pro or anti Harry

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stance. I'm just pointing out that he went from like

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third or fourth in line for the throne to like

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cam Hayward's up on stage accepting the Walter

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Payton Award and he's like, the first thing he says.

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Is that's freaking Prince Harry.

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It was really threaded a needle. I guess

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this is the crazy moment.

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It definitely like jumped up the star

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power for NFL Honors, Henry.

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I would think God at least a twenty percent

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raise. Look, Chris

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Berman is.

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Oh, shaking hand away over there, glad

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ending the big bell bottom.

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That's his only blazer, by the way,

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look at him.

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We have reached the stage in the Super

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Bowl week where the splash page

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on ESPN dot com is Chris Berman

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picks the winner super Bowl fifty eight. So that's

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where we're at now, all right, it's time. Don't

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get impatient. Greg's

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the journey. I just mean that, that's like,

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what are we doing here? Yeah, make

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a big deal of who what the pick is?

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All right?

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Well, like we're gonna do in just a bit, We're gonna make our

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picks. But let's start with NFL Honors. And

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obviously the big award is

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NFL MVP. And this

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is not a surprise the way that in general

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a lot of these awards there wasn't

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a lot of fun intrigue this year for

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several of them, including MVP, because you knew

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the way the season ended, Lamar was gonna win. It

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really came down to was he gonna win unanimously? He

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did not, but he got forty nine of

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the fifty first place

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votes, so it was a blowout.

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Dack a distant second place with fifteen

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points, Lamar forty nine, CMC

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with fourteen, Your boy Mark

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Brock finished with nine. So that

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was the voting. And here was Lamar on stage

7:24

after accepting the award.

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I'd rather signing a video to

7:29

except the award if I was waining. You know that it was

7:32

great players who was nominating as will not just himself

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and the heads off to those guys. I didn't do a lot for four teams

7:36

as well, you

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know, just to get this award. To

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be here for the award, it's a hundred,

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but I rather would have been in the super vote. Except the

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war it's all doing, you know.

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I feel like just enough time has passed

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where it's not weird for

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him to be on the stage after blowing the AFC title

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game.

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So that's good for the lam Army.

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Yeah, it's happened a lot in

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NFL history that these NFL

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MVPs accept the award after

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a crushing playoff disappointment. Actually

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it happened Wonky. Yeah.

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I believe Patrick Mahomes that the year he lost

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to the Patriots in

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the AFC Championship Game as a starter

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his first one, same thing happened.

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It's happened a number of times, and it is awkward,

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but you're able. I think he's able to appreciate

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it and the bigger

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surprises.

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Just like that.

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It was such a blowout to me. I guess

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it was just the way the season ended. It felt like a

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very strange MVP year that Lamar would

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have been my pick.

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So he was a deserving winner.

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I think he was the right pick for this year, but it

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wasn't a year like where

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the last few years. I think the second or third place,

8:45

like Jalen Hurts his twenty twenty

8:47

two season would have won this, Josh Allen

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a couple of years ago would have won this, And there just wasn't

8:51

one of those seasons this year, and Lamar was the

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best of the options.

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You know, I think they there was the way the schedule worked

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out. MVP candidate knocked

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out MVP candidate, then the next week that guy

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got knocked out by someone else, and like Lamar kind

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of was on top of the hill at the end of the season. But I

9:05

just go back to this thing, and I guess part of it is like

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we're in an arrow where like what happens in the postseason,

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it's not supposed to matter in terms of MVP

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Quarterback.

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Offensive Player of the Year, but I would rather we vote

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later.

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There is something awkward to me to have the MVP

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be someone this is just me who completely

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blew it in the playoffs.

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It's a little It's a regular season award though, that's.

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Just that's just what it is.

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I guess it should be because otherwise

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it's gonna just tilt heavily no matter what happens in the

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Super Bowl.

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But so here's

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the thing, I think, Well, it's not it would have been

9:35

weirder had Dak Prescott got up.

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Right.

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It's not nineteen eighty two and the kicker

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for Washington winning, Right, there's.

9:41

Been this one.

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I feel like we're going to look back and while we're not going to

9:45

disagree that Lamar should

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have won, we're gonna be like, wow, he kind of this is not

9:50

that he was lucky, but it's like.

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Good year to be here.

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To look at his numbers. He didn't have his best rushing

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year.

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He was middle of the pack and touchdown passes and

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yardage everything else. He passed the eye

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test and he won a bunch of big time games

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in the season, so it makes sense.

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But the numbers, it's it's kind of a strange

10:06

year. And but he got it. He's

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got the hardware. You know, you got to do it.

10:09

I don't know people will remember that though.

10:11

It's like when Palama There's been

10:13

some Defensive Player of the Year awards like that too, where there's

10:15

not a logical pick.

10:16

I think with the Palamala year, one of the.

10:18

MVP is different than that, right, That's what I mean, Like in

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the long run, though, you're just like, well he won two

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m vps.

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I do.

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I found the voting interesting. I believe it was

10:27

Aaron Shots voted

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for Josh Allen first.

10:30

He came in fifth. Overall. I thought there

10:32

would be more diversity.

10:34

Brock Perdy got nine second place votes,

10:36

five third place votes. Dak

10:38

just edged as you mentioned out Christian McCaffrey,

10:40

but there wasn't like a lot of mixing

10:43

it up.

10:43

I thought there would be a little more disagreement.

10:45

And I heard and we're at the point of the week where everyone

10:48

you know, not us, of course, but everyone

10:51

that works in media is just trying to like get

10:53

now to the finish line.

10:54

And I heard Stephen A. Smith just railing

10:57

against whoever was the one who

10:59

didn't vote for Lamar Jackson. It's

11:01

fine, it's a disgrace. No, like Josh Allen

11:03

had Eric. I know Eric would have voted

11:06

for joshup.

11:07

He had a big time year with like a lot of memorable

11:09

splash plays, and I don't think it's absurd

11:11

that he got a vote.

11:12

Also coming from Aaron Schatz, Like there's a lot

11:15

of data in hard work and perception and ideas

11:17

going into that.

11:17

It's not just sure from the middle of the front of the.

11:19

Show speaking of well, maybe you would

11:21

feel differently, Mark because your Cleveland Browns had a

11:24

nice award show. But if they factored

11:26

in the playoffs, there's no way Kevin Stefanski is

11:28

Coach of the Year. But he does win the award

11:31

over Demiko Ryans, who obviously

11:33

the Texans beat up on the Browns in the playoffs. They

11:35

finished tied in points,

11:38

but it was Kevin Stefanski that got

11:40

the more first place votes, one first

11:42

votes.

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That's that's as closest against obviously.

11:44

I think that actually, I think that actually emphasizes

11:49

my point forget the brown side

11:51

of it. It's like, I think what Tomiko Ryans

11:53

did ultimately was go and win a playoff

11:55

game for a team that like absolutely was

11:57

in another world a year ago. And Stefanski,

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it's, you know what, he earned it absolutely

12:02

for regular season navigation

12:05

of losing like a billion quarterbacks, bringing

12:07

in Joe Flacco and you know,

12:09

having all that happen the way it did, and kind of

12:11

keeping a calm demeanor through it all.

12:13

He's won it twice.

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There is a pretty short list of coaches,

12:17

and it's an pretty credible list coaches

12:19

that have won it two times. So I

12:22

Thinkkevin Stefanski is a good coach. He stands

12:24

out on that list is like wow, right.

12:27

Because he was a little bit on the hot seat and coming

12:29

into this year because the other two years between

12:31

the awards were.

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Right, it's fitting. It's fitting that it was tied. I

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think it's fitting that it was just I

12:38

would have loved that actually.

12:39

But it's crazy. Every vote matters.

12:40

Five people left Stefanski

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off their ballots entirely. You vote for the top three,

12:45

but seven people left Ryan's

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off their ballot entirely.

12:48

So even though had more of those guys

12:51

off your ballot, I.

12:51

Don't even think that's that crazy too, because like Dan

12:54

Campbell got a decent amount of.

12:55

Support, he had three interesting years, Kyle

12:57

Sanahan.

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Got a decent amount of votes, John Harbaugh McVeigh.

13:01

And then deep deep I mean, but I'll

13:03

use someone had Bowls third.

13:05

Come on, I'll use as the example.

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Yeah, if one of the playoff

13:10

teams had a team that used five quarterbacks

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and made the playoffs, like, you can't not give him?

13:15

Well, no, it wasn't wonky at all.

13:17

It's just that I think that the vote to me is

13:19

always ridiculous because just because

13:22

Kyle Shanahan's been good for so long, we see this

13:24

every year, like he gets far

13:26

fewer votes. Like Kyle Shanahan has done

13:28

a better coaching job than any one of these people.

13:30

He came in four.

13:31

Yeah, he came in fourth. Thirteen car which

13:33

has got a vote.

13:34

Which is I can't remember if any voting

13:36

awards Sean McDermott for

13:38

that inspirational speech that galvanized

13:41

his team to a big winning streak.

13:43

Oh wait, the speech was years ago, but it's still yeah.

13:47

So I'm cool though with Stefanski

13:49

winning Coach of the Year, Flacco winning

13:51

Comeback by the Year is wild. We're at dinner

13:53

when we see that, and we had

13:55

a friend who was connected to somebody

13:58

who had wagered quite amount of money

14:01

on Deamar Hamlin winning that because Damar

14:03

Hamlin nearly died on the.

14:04

Field last year.

14:05

So Flacco gets it after starting

14:07

five games, winning four of them. We

14:10

have some flaccos sound. I would imagine.

14:12

We've gotten to know Flack over the years. He's

14:14

a humble guy. He kind of sees he has a good

14:16

perspective on things. It had to be a little

14:18

weird to beat the guy that almost died, you

14:21

know, I keep saying.

14:22

It feels kind of strange.

14:23

I literally played in five games this year in

14:25

the regular season, so it

14:28

definitely feels a little strange.

14:29

But man, he's a special two months.

14:32

So I think anytime that you get

14:34

recognized for playing some good football if it

14:36

means a lot.

14:37

So Flacco takes that award.

14:41

Let's keep moving. Offensive Player of the Year, we can

14:44

come back to any of these. Christian McCaffrey takes

14:46

that well earned. He was a monster, led the league

14:48

of all purpose yards over twenty touchdowns.

14:51

Another very close vote was Defensive

14:54

Player of the Year Miles

14:56

Garrett edges Maker

14:59

Parson TJ.

15:00

Watt. How close was that vote?

15:02

That was twenty three from Miles Garrett, nineteen

15:04

for Watt. Then you go down to Parsons at

15:06

seven and to Ron Bland one.

15:11

And even closer because walk up more.

15:12

The second and third place votes matter a lot, So it

15:14

was it was very tight, but TJ.

15:16

Watt didn't get it done.

15:18

And then ap Offensive Rookie of

15:20

the Year. This is a great rookie class in

15:23

the NFL. And it was CJ. Stroud, who

15:25

could not as great as some of those

15:27

guys. Pookin a coup really comes to mind.

15:29

He had two first place votes. Yeah, you had

15:31

to give it to Shroud. If it's a rookie who blows up

15:33

the way he did.

15:35

Yes, Stroud deserves that, even not taking

15:37

into account that he had a massive playoff game as

15:39

well. Yes, well deserved for

15:41

Stroud and Defensive Rookie of the Year. Just

15:44

like the Jets last year, a team

15:46

sweeps this category, it is Texans

15:49

Will Anderson Junior taking

15:51

that trophy.

15:53

Hild Yeah.

15:54

Well, the Will Anderson Defensive

15:56

Player of the Year vote was also extremely

15:58

close in first place votes.

16:00

Actually, our guy, the.

16:02

Conductor, Kobe Turner tied for

16:05

the lead there with Will Anderson and Jalen Carter.

16:07

They each get your guy. I mean, we like him, but he's

16:10

your guy.

16:10

He's got fourteen place votes, But it

16:12

was the second and third place votes that ended up deciding.

16:15

So Carter got second, uh

16:17

and and Kobe Turner got third. The Comeback

16:19

Player of the Year, though, is maybe

16:22

the most surprising NFL Honors

16:25

award that I can remember.

16:27

I would say, like I've heard it's like put out there,

16:29

and I kind of think this would be a good solution that

16:32

just named the award after Demor

16:34

Hamlin and then from here on out,

16:36

because it's like and then give it.

16:38

But I know, but

16:40

I like I'm saying they could have done give him the award.

16:44

It's it's strange.

16:44

It's a lot of people must have really

16:47

the flaccos to the narrative, like completely, I

16:49

think outshine the fact that Hamlin didn't play much this

16:51

year too.

16:52

But Brown's QB take.

16:53

I thought Baker deserved it more than Flakka

16:55

for what he did this year.

16:56

Baker came in third, and this

16:59

just reminds me of Wes

17:01

because we would rail against

17:04

the Comeback Player of the Year award, and I agree, it's

17:06

just so nebulous. I think if you're going to have

17:08

an award, make a definition of

17:11

what it is, because you're trying to

17:14

compare a player that

17:16

came back from a near death experience to

17:18

a guy, as I saw on Twitter,

17:20

that was coming back from unemployment like he just

17:23

was he didn't he literally didn't have a job. And it's like and

17:25

then Baker, who fits a more traditional

17:28

kind of winner of the award, of just like coming back from

17:30

a big career dip, like define exactly.

17:32

What it is.

17:33

This morning, I was feeling pretty dangerous.

17:35

Because eight people

17:37

Damar Hamlin actually got eight more first

17:39

place votes than Joe Flacco. So

17:42

actually, the conventional wisdom was was

17:44

kind of right, and they only changed

17:46

the voting last year to include

17:49

first, second, third in every vote.

17:51

But what happened was.

17:54

Eight people left Damar Hamlin off

17:57

their bouts entirely. Now, they could

17:59

have just thought, they might have just thought he doesn't

18:01

really make sense for this award in their mind,

18:03

or they could have completely forgotten him because he you

18:05

know, just they weren't thinking about him because he didn't

18:08

have.

18:08

A big season's gotten him.

18:09

Trust me, not every not all fifty

18:11

voters are like completely locked into

18:13

what's going on. So it's one of those two things. But

18:15

either of those, to me, are kind of unacceptable. And I

18:17

just think they got to define what the award

18:20

is because Flacko only got left off three

18:23

ballots and he got a ton of second place

18:25

votes and that's why he won, even though actually way

18:28

more people thought Hamlin should have won.

18:30

Well, well, a lot of it is what happens at the end of the season.

18:32

But when you say to define what the award

18:35

is, I think it's one of the more nebulous awards out

18:37

there because if you say it's just for returning

18:39

from injury, or it's bad season,

18:41

great season, or it's something obscure

18:44

happened to you and then you return and play well, it's like there's

18:46

all sorts of comebacks.

18:48

And heard he got six

18:51

six total votes, including a first place votes,

18:53

I was like, wait, what's he coming back? Calvin Ridley

18:55

came in seventh for coming back from a gambling suspension.

18:58

I think the cynical.

18:59

The cynical to me with Hamelin

19:01

is that happened late

19:04

in the regular season last year, and

19:06

then he was at NFL Honors

19:08

last year and they celebrated him there, and it's

19:10

almost like it's old news. So the

19:13

fact that he didn't qualify for the

19:15

award last year, the people

19:17

kind of moved on. It was no longer compelling to them in the

19:19

way it was. But right those that remember that night

19:22

and really how that played, that's

19:25

listen. It's kind of a silly ward. But

19:27

what happened to him, that to me, defines

19:29

the idea to go back on the field

19:31

and face almost

19:33

that fear of after what happened.

19:35

That's that's a coming, right.

19:36

But it's also the kind of thing where it doesn't like turn

19:38

Joe Flacco into the villain in this exercise

19:41

nod.

19:42

You know, he felt awkward about it and said

19:44

as much because he was like, I don't even know, like

19:46

what this be.

19:47

Like he gets it.

19:48

It's like Phil Rivers said the same thing when he was

19:50

coming back from nothing and won the word. He came back

19:52

from a bad season where he was

19:54

just like, Okay, Ryan Tannehill that's still my

19:56

favorite, had a similar one and the

19:59

last awards they I just would want to say, it's like, yeah,

20:02

it's very nebulous, calm down, TJ. Watt and Steelers

20:04

fans, you want a Defensive Player of the Year award before.

20:07

They were such a hard on for TJ. Watt? What

20:10

do you mean? You just always got to get him? I feel

20:12

like, but there just gets so mad,

20:14

like so fired up.

20:15

As if the top four candidates, and I

20:17

would include Crosby in this who came in fourth,

20:19

in Parsons, who came in a distant third, you

20:23

were splitting hairs to pick

20:25

between any of the four of them. So you really,

20:28

I don't think you can feel that like

20:30

crazy that anyone would get robbed here.

20:32

It made sense to me that Garrett won it.

20:34

A great sight of the night was calling Wolfe

20:37

interviewing Joe Flacco before the awards,

20:40

and he was towering over by what seemed

20:42

to be like a foot and a half, and she mentioned

20:44

that she was already in six inch heels

20:46

and she just was like looking up at him like she would

20:48

add a skyscraper, sneaky

20:51

tall man.

20:51

My image also with Flakaumember

20:54

from the night is that there's a clip of Lamar

20:56

putting his arm around like

20:59

that Blacko's shoulder and then he put his head

21:02

on his other shoulder like it was he

21:04

was like Joe Flacco's young

21:06

child. So that's that's nice to see. After there were

21:08

some reports of them being quite prickly

21:11

with.

21:11

The jo like to be a Ravens quarterback

21:14

who steps up in the playoffs. Tell me more,

21:16

show me the path. Sorry, Greg

21:18

took Joe a while too, right, Joe,

21:22

listen, Joe, I remember this

21:25

Super Bowl year, fifth year,

21:27

well it was his fifth year they'd made the play. Remember

21:29

him playing lights out in Foxboro a year

21:31

or two later and that a great comeback by

21:33

the Pats.

21:34

He was a big time January performer.

21:36

All right, let's uh, let's

21:38

pivot and talk a little Hall of fame.

21:40

How about that?

21:41

Uh well, let's start a Super

21:43

Bowl week after all with a great super

21:45

Bowl memory of the Aughts and

21:49

the Colts have had a hard time all season

21:51

covering kicks. It's Hester trying

21:53

to work it back to the middle, gets past.

21:55

The first raven. Here he goes. That's

21:58

Hester and signed

22:00

the thirty. Hester's gonna take.

22:02

It over the way for a touchdown

22:05

and no flag ninety two

22:07

yards.

22:09

Listen, it's hearing Jim Nantzer without romogon

22:12

hod Jim.

22:14

That was Devin Hester Hester super Bowl

22:16

forty one. I call it the Prince super Bowl in

22:19

Miami, the heavily favorite Colts against

22:21

the Bears.

22:21

And that was the highlight. Ooh,

22:24

it was the highlight on that night for

22:26

the Bears.

22:26

The opening kickoff in an

22:28

eventual Indianapolis win Devin

22:31

Hester. And it's

22:33

interesting, it's kind of fun now with as we get

22:35

older and seeing these guys that you remember

22:38

when they came into the league now getting

22:40

into the Hall of Fame after watching their whole career

22:42

Devin hester Is in the class of twenty

22:45

twenty four, joining him Dwight Freeney,

22:47

Andre Johnson, Julius Peppers,

22:50

Patrick Willis, and then in

22:52

the Senior Committee class getting in as

22:54

a Randy gratischar and Steve

22:56

McMichael former Bears. Great, great

22:59

crew, all deserving who

23:02

jumps out to you on that one great of that list.

23:04

I'm thrilled to see Andre Johnson

23:06

and Julius Peppers get in. It's a great

23:09

reminder, especially with Peppers,

23:12

to just wait a little bit, wait a little

23:14

bit to evaluate these careers. And when I was mentioning

23:16

Flacco before I was thinking about I think it was

23:18

his first three years he had like one touchdown,

23:20

eight seven interceptions, and they were really getting

23:22

on it.

23:23

You get it, Lamar Jackson. No, no, no,

23:25

no.

23:25

I just meant like people were killing flac

23:28

Oh for not being a playoff performer for years,

23:31

and then it actually flipped the entire way, and Julius

23:33

Peppers to me, was picked on

23:36

for years of maybe not living

23:38

up to his.

23:39

Like draft value. Like people have

23:41

totally memory hold this.

23:42

They're like, well, he's so talented, but he really

23:45

doesn't play that hard. And it was

23:47

like just people who were kind of making vaguely

23:49

racist comments about a guy who's extremely

23:52

low key. And sometimes you have to really watch

23:54

I think the film to appreciate and appreciate

23:57

his consistency that it got better and better and

23:59

better, and and he made things

24:01

look easy.

24:01

And he was a guy who I think got in.

24:03

In part because he had

24:05

such a long career of sustained

24:08

excellence. But for the first five or six

24:10

years of his career, where he was still very good, he

24:12

got picked on and people were using the B word

24:15

around him. And he's literally a Hall of Famer a

24:17

and so it's really cool to see him get in.

24:19

This beward the bust word, I

24:21

don't know, I called the bet. Yeah. I love this.

24:23

Class because this is the first. Like, I just think it's

24:25

like a cool class. Aren't all these players cool?

24:28

Well, yeah, it's like we covered

24:30

big chunks of their careers.

24:31

Like Devin Hester obviously

24:33

stands out different that you will never have a

24:35

player like him getting into the

24:37

Hall of Fame ever again, assuming the NFL keeps

24:40

the rules as they are for Kinnick and punt returns,

24:42

it just will never happen. It's like that that element

24:44

and the danger that he presented. Will

24:46

has gone away in the NFL. I everyone

24:49

always sort of brushes over the senior

24:52

entries. But Steve McMichael, I think, was the first football

24:54

card I ever had, and was a member of that eighty

24:56

five Bears team and was a long haired,

24:59

angry, like jury

25:02

driven linebacker who sometimes

25:04

because you had Mike Singletary in there in a couple

25:06

O's Ron Rivera gets a little bit forgotten.

25:09

He was as badass as it gets.

25:11

And right now he's battling als, and

25:13

I know he's going through a lot, But like he was

25:16

like a mid eighties and he played a

25:18

lot longer than that Bears team, but he was a

25:20

mid eighties fire starter and an unforgettable

25:22

if you watched him.

25:24

Andre Johnson is one of the

25:27

one of the more dominant players of his

25:29

era, and good to

25:31

see him get in some of the guys as

25:33

they get older, and that was the case

25:36

with the Johnson's last three years.

25:38

He was in decline as a player, and you

25:40

know, bounced around a little bit, went to Indianapolis,

25:42

even was in Tennessee at the very end. But

25:45

those prime years, those peak years with

25:47

Houston, he was just locking in.

25:50

He was a first first team All Pro

25:52

twice, second team All Pro twice,

25:55

and kind of like the lynchpin of that

25:58

offense and that JJ Watt years.

26:00

He was the star on the other side of the ball, the consistent

26:03

guy, and well deserved for him as

26:05

well.

26:05

I think Patrick Willis was essentially a perfect

26:07

player.

26:08

He didn't have as long of a career as some of these guys,

26:10

but like was a perfect player, right.

26:12

I love that he got in because to me, he's a little

26:14

bit like Terrell Davis, where the first five years

26:16

of his career he was the defining inside slash

26:18

middle linebacker of those five

26:20

or six years and then he got hurt and it was kind

26:22

of it. It was really six years, And

26:26

I think that's to me more worthy

26:28

of a Hall of Fame induction, that

26:30

you're dominant for a six years, six

26:32

years a long time in the NFL than some of the

26:34

compilers that get in. So to me, he's a particular

26:36

type that I'm glad got

26:39

in. I just like this

26:42

is actually the first class where

26:44

I started doing NFL covering

26:46

it in two thousand and three. I feel like I did

26:49

pretty much see all of all of these

26:51

guys careers free Andy started just a

26:53

bit before, same with Peppers, and

26:55

it's just I don't know, it's badass to see.

26:58

But it's also crazy to me that

27:00

Antonio Gates is not on

27:03

this list, because I don't want to do the thing where

27:05

you just say it's crazy he didn't make it. Who would you take

27:07

out over him? Hester, to me would

27:09

be the obvious one, but

27:11

I would actually put Gates over all

27:13

of them. And I actually think if you had asked

27:15

everyone in twenty ten and

27:18

you gave them this list, who's the biggest lock of

27:20

the Hall of Fame here? I

27:23

think Antonio Gates would have been your answer.

27:25

And I do think he's getting

27:27

punished a little bit for being on the Chargers,

27:29

and some of it's just timing, but

27:32

he won First team All Pro three straight

27:34

times over Tony Gonzalez. In

27:36

his peak, he has forty more touchdowns

27:38

than Travis Kelsey does. He's the all time leader

27:41

in touchdowns at his position. He

27:43

has about thirty something more than Gronk

27:46

does. Like at the time, he's one of the there

27:48

was strong arguments that he's the greatest tight

27:50

end of all the time. So I hate

27:52

knocking it out, but Hester is just a weird one because Hester only

27:54

made three or four Pro Bowls like he I think

27:56

he deserves to get in and maybe and I think it's just

27:58

a timing thing.

27:59

Gates will get and eventually.

28:00

His chemistry with Rivers

28:03

was unbelievable. And here's

28:05

the thing with him, injuries just really

28:08

kind of held him back. He played forever, but

28:10

he remember, he's always battling those foot issues.

28:13

And when you.

28:13

Look back at his stats, he was always a

28:15

red zone stud. As you mentioned the touchdowns one

28:17

hundred and sixteen. He just had two one thousand

28:20

yard seasons. Now, I know it's a different, but it's

28:22

a different I'm just saying

28:24

the injuries. He missed a lot of games in his career. But

28:26

to go if you if you're a player who

28:29

goes first team All Pro is big

28:31

time, and he did it three years in a row, and then six

28:35

he was either first team or second team.

28:37

So I feel like this is the case I make

28:40

for Don Mattingly, my hero growing

28:42

up in baseball. A shorter prime

28:44

that's truncated by injury. But if you are a

28:46

face of the league in a dominant presence over

28:49

the course of a decade like that should be given

28:51

extra, so I'm with you. He'll get get in.

28:53

He'll get it's hard to get I'll

28:55

be all right. And we saw him by the way we were

28:57

getting coffees. I know it was you did saying

29:00

to him.

29:00

I had just got on a little Twitter rant because it

29:02

annoyed me because I was such a fan. I think

29:04

he's maybe the greatest receiving titand

29:06

I've ever seen.

29:08

You just have to compare between eras. But

29:10

I did not say anything. You should have showed him your little

29:12

tweets. Well, he's

29:14

annoyed. I mean, he's actually disappointed

29:16

that you're in his camp. Though that

29:18

would be clear, you know.

29:19

Sure, first

29:22

step ever, and we're gonna have Cam Jordan

29:24

on it a little bit. And Cam Jordan is right behind Freanie

29:27

in the sack record. He's in the top twenty and sometimes

29:30

in that. And I said it

29:32

on the pod recently. The best rivalry, the

29:34

two best rivalries Cowboys Niners

29:36

in the nineties since I've been watching football, and Pat's

29:38

Colts in the two thousands, and the

29:41

Peyton and Brady It sucked up

29:43

all the oxygen. But Freenye was one

29:46

of the guys, one of the guys the dudes on Indianapolis

29:49

that made that whole team go. And he was a consistent

29:51

force in their front seven. And

29:53

they don't win titles and have that run of success

29:56

without him.

29:56

So also well earned. And he's in the top twenty.

29:58

All times, right, and he's the guy that was getting like Defensive

30:00

Player of the Year second third. Like that's the difference

30:02

between him and like a Willis who was really great at his

30:04

position.

30:05

But he was.

30:06

Another one who was really dominant and

30:09

had a nice little run too. I remember him ever

30:11

and him in the twenty eight to three Falcons

30:13

team. He had a nice little rebound season. I

30:16

was kind of a team leader for them.

30:18

Mark, do you want to add anything on the

30:22

final Veterans Committee, I'm

30:25

gonna I'm gonna scour that.

30:27

He did well, he said Steve mcnichel. But there's

30:29

also Randy Gratishar. We can't leave Randy at.

30:31

Bradishar was I believe Denver Broncos

30:34

like during the Orange Crush era, that's

30:36

before my time, So I kind

30:38

of stay away from giving first hand knowledge

30:40

about players that I was during.

30:42

I was essentially a toddler, having the

30:44

runway in case you had something in there.

30:45

I think it's you know, actually my only commentary.

30:48

It's kind of sad for me when it's great that they get

30:50

in, but sometimes they're they're not alive anymore

30:52

or there. It's so far away

30:54

that people he's a glance over it and

30:57

don't really like understand what their career

30:59

was. It's like, I don't know how we do this with Hall of Fame,

31:01

where some of these guys like get in and celebrated

31:04

a little bit earlier.

31:05

If you're on the bubble that long, it feels like

31:07

a rough ride.

31:08

I immediately think about speeches too. With these

31:10

guys, I feel like this is a a good

31:12

crew. I feel like Willis is

31:14

going to bring some fire. Who

31:17

else we got.

31:18

Well, I'm doing a little gradishar here.

31:20

He is the heart

31:22

of the Orange Crush defense. He's

31:25

the all time leading tackler for the Denver Broncos.

31:27

He's the nineteen seventy eight defensive Player

31:29

of the Year. So went

31:31

to the shadow shoudow all

31:35

right?

31:35

Anything else? All right, let's wrap this

31:37

up. Good conversation, that's what's happening in the

31:39

news. Let's take a break and we'll welcome

31:41

our first guest.

31:42

We'll be right back.

31:58

But our

32:01

next guest is he's

32:03

a dude. Let's start there. He's a

32:05

dude. He's also a.

32:07

Part of the NFL Media

32:09

podcast network. He's also a stud defender

32:13

for the New Orleans Saints.

32:14

You know who I'm talking about, Cameron Jordan.

32:16

Welcome to Around the NFL, buddy.

32:18

I appreciate you guys having me on. I mean the intro music

32:20

dropped and I was like, oh, no, I get it. I

32:22

get it. Welcome to the twilight Zone.

32:24

So that's okay. So twilight Zone.

32:26

It's always a good test, Like how the guests here

32:29

what that song is.

32:31

So there's a bit of a sci

32:33

fi vibe.

32:34

Yeah, it was quite eerie until the guitar

32:36

started stringing.

32:37

You know, yes, I always found it.

32:39

It's nineteen eighty

32:41

eight cop driving back to his apartment after

32:43

his partner just got shot.

32:44

Yeah he's down and out. Yeah that makes it.

32:46

That makes perfect sense.

32:47

Ye, Cam, here's a little full

32:49

circle moment. We've been doing this podcast for

32:52

eleven years now. I'm getting emotional about it.

32:55

And before

32:57

the podcast started, we worked and just

32:59

wrote for NFL dot Com. When you were drafted

33:01

into the league, you came to the old

33:03

Culver City Studios and

33:06

in the green room a young journo Dan

33:09

Hanss met with a rookie

33:12

and the third person cover since he got the last

33:14

contract, and I remember we

33:16

had a nice conversation. I wrote up the piece

33:18

that I remember talking about your dad Steve and

33:20

watching the Mister Perfect video

33:23

years ago in w w AT and now here

33:25

you are, like.

33:26

I don't know, you're Hall of Famer. I think you

33:28

are. You're the all time sack leader of the Saints.

33:31

You're you're in the atn Era, one

33:33

of the greats yeah, one of.

33:35

The greatst store and you are in outshine

33:37

Jordan Cameron, who you were mistaken for on that

33:40

that.

33:41

I mean, come on, come on. In two thousand

33:43

eleven draft class arguably the greatest draft class

33:45

of all times. There were so many, you know. There there

33:47

was Cam cam Newton at number one, you

33:49

know, me at twenty four, Cam Hayward

33:52

at like thirty. Then there's Jordan Cameron

33:54

and like the like the fifth or sixth round. Uh

33:56

And I even got called by the Browns to get drafted

33:59

by them because they it was Jordan Cameron,

34:01

and it was Cameron Jordan. You know, there was a whole invert I'm

34:04

exactly. So, you know, it was a Browns organization that

34:06

we all admire.

34:07

Cameron Hayward. It seems like a great dude. You know, he won Walter

34:09

Peyton Man of the Year award last night.

34:12

Though, Is that problematic for you people? Still

34:14

confusing?

34:15

I'm got called Cam Hayward a

34:17

couple of times. Uh, in my my

34:19

stay here for the last three days in Vegas,

34:21

I've called I've been called. I was like, oh, man, Jordan,

34:23

Cam. I said, that don't even make sense that

34:26

he's been retired for so long.

34:28

Unless they go in like Jordan.

34:31

Maybe that's what it was. It was there was a pause in there,

34:33

so maybe they was just reading it like you do the passport, you

34:35

know, last name first and then go on to the name.

34:38

But I also get I was like, oh, he's like, yeah, what

34:40

they don't do? I was like, dude, you're Cam. I

34:42

was like, come on say it, say it like I

34:45

was like Newton, No, No, I was like you don't. I've

34:47

gotten Brandon Marshall and Alvin Kamara And

34:50

at this point, I'm just like, where are we going with this?

34:53

You you uh, you know you're a great player,

34:55

but at this point, you're basically a podcaster.

34:57

Uh, you're our colleague, like Alvin Kamara,

35:00

great teammate. You're our teammate on

35:02

the NF podcast. Yeah, the Off the Edge

35:04

podcast. And I know that you're truly

35:06

a podcaster because you're getting eight thirty, not

35:09

even a wake up call, an eight thirty car to come

35:11

over here to Radio Row every single

35:14

day.

35:14

You're you're working harder than us.

35:16

Yeah, yeah, you know, it's a it's a six forty

35:18

five wake up too. So I can go run down to the

35:21

to the to the weight room down at the hotel

35:24

just to get my thirty to forty five minute elliptic.

35:26

Goal in to get the juices.

35:27

Really, the creative juice is flowing, you

35:29

know, the cerebral cortex has to be pulsating

35:32

at ultimate levels for for

35:34

me to you know, be able to get into a car at

35:37

eight to be here by eight thirty to get this work

35:39

in.

35:39

How season one going up being a podcast

35:41

here?

35:42

Man? So you know, I don't even know what season

35:44

this is. So me and mark Ingram

35:46

had a podcast. Trust levels

35:48

biggest, you know, biggest trust on the highest of

35:50

levels. It was vibes, you know,

35:52

and when you can bounce ideas and talk to

35:54

other people. It's a party going

35:57

solo, this solo act. You

35:59

know, I'm not feeling like just about I'm

36:02

feeling like justin Timberlake when he left in Sync, you

36:04

know, like I'm like, I'm off on on my own.

36:06

I miss my friends. Nope, won't say it out loud. We'll

36:08

continue.

36:09

He made a lot of money.

36:10

Though, Well, you want to be Timberlake like two

36:12

thousand and three to twenty fourteen,

36:14

not modern day Timberlake when everyone hates him.

36:16

Wait, everybody hates him.

36:17

I feel like there's been a lot of pushback and blowback

36:20

with Brittany and Janet and some

36:22

other stuff.

36:22

Are they on trolls? Do their kids watch him

36:24

every day?

36:25

I would not know.

36:26

I think Justine is doing all right. I think you're right in that

36:28

Sta. Yeah, he's probably doing quite okay.

36:30

Between Branch and Princess Poppy. You know what goes on

36:32

in my house?

36:33

How many kids you got? I've got four, okay,

36:35

and three of them are girls.

36:36

So guess what. We watch a lot of musicals. I

36:38

guess what trolls is? When heck of a musical?

36:41

We living in la

36:43

I only know, like one dad

36:46

has three kids and it just tears

36:48

his life asunder. It's mostly

36:51

two or one and people I know so to go. Oh, you're

36:53

in LA, so the taxes are high. There

36:55

three kids at a.

36:56

School that'll blow the house up. Yeah.

36:58

Down, Yeah, that sounds

37:00

that sounds hurtful. I

37:02

gotta take these kids out to eat every day. No,

37:04

no, no, no no.

37:05

Can we talk a little Saints?

37:07

Absolutely? Why wouldn't I want to talk about

37:09

the black and the gold or the gold on the black?

37:11

Can I ask you one like the most fascinating

37:13

moment for me from the Saints

37:15

all year. You know, you close out the season

37:17

with a with a You're up forty one to seventeen

37:20

over the desperate Atlanta Falcons.

37:22

We're about to fire their coach and you're

37:24

you're down at the one yard line after an interception,

37:27

and Jameis Winston finished dials

37:29

up, you know, unbeknownst to the

37:31

coaching staff, a one yard touchdown

37:34

for Jamal Williams. You go, you win the game forty

37:36

eight seventeen. You know, Arthur Smith is all

37:38

annoyed afterwards. Dennis Allen doesn't know what

37:40

to say. But then Jameis Winston tells

37:42

everyone later like, look, we did it because everyone

37:44

in the locker room wanted this to happen.

37:46

Like your reaction to that, tell me, you tell me

37:48

your version.

37:49

I'm so sorry. The locker room really

37:51

enjoys being a brotherhood.

37:53

Right, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry

37:56

that we punished a rival team. I

37:58

would do it again. In fact, I would have gone for two.

38:02

Now.

38:02

The only thing I'm gonna have discrepancy with is I was

38:04

like I didn't understand the ramifications, Like, no, they

38:06

were taking victory formation. Ah,

38:09

so the Cantlanta fail

38:12

Cons had already acquiesced and

38:15

they were they were just trying to get out there, just like their head coach

38:17

was about to get out there the Falcons.

38:19

And you know what that I love that about.

38:22

I didn't under Greg went to Tulane, so he was

38:25

a little more into the world there, grew up

38:27

in the Northeast. I didn't understand the true

38:29

hatred between the Saints and Falcons until started

38:31

covering the sport more closely.

38:33

We kind of need more Saints Falcons.

38:37

Like, good job, I'll see you next

38:39

time.

38:39

But right when I saw

38:41

jamis that clip that kind of went viral

38:43

last week on stage

38:46

at the church. As a I

38:48

was like, Dennis Allen didn't have a chance against this guy.

38:51

Of course everyone's following. Jamis went absolutely

38:53

yeah.

38:53

My only half my gripe was I was like,

38:56

Dennis ended up saying sorry, and I was.

38:58

Like, why would you say sorry?

39:00

I was like, you know what you say sorry, We didn't go for

39:02

fifty, So sorry

39:04

on you.

39:04

But here's the test because like after the game,

39:07

James like, listen, like, apologies

39:09

to coach, but we made a decision as a team.

39:11

Jamal Jamal has been amazing

39:13

team right, an amazing player whatever

39:16

they called his number. He's

39:18

been giving all the juice, all the all, you know, even

39:21

giving up the possibility of accolades.

39:23

But as Dennis and Jamis cool,

39:25

like it's James next year.

39:27

Now, Jameis deserves to be he

39:29

deserves to be a starter.

39:31

That's fair.

39:31

I mean, when you see the quarterbacks that played,

39:34

I'm not knocking anybody, but we played

39:36

the Chicago Bears and it was not justin Phils on the film.

39:38

We we played a guy in New York

39:41

who whose agent was probably became more

39:43

famous than he did. So

39:46

you're telling me, Jamis, who's got you know,

39:49

the arm of every Titans dream.

39:51

You know, that's right, you kind of I forgot y'all

39:53

ended de Vito insanity.

39:55

I forgot that.

39:56

Man.

39:56

I'm glad we weren't part of DEFO

40:00

one thing though, because I would imagine San Francisco

40:02

like the players would never do that to Kyle Shanahan.

40:04

So I guess I'm asking from another angle,

40:06

like Dennis Allen kind of like they

40:09

wouldn't.

40:10

I don't. I don't know, But is

40:12

it is it.

40:12

Perceived as the players doing something to

40:14

the coach or the players I.

40:15

Think the people the outside the locker room

40:18

kind of question, like does Dennis Allen like have this

40:20

team, you know, in every

40:22

possible way, or is it like we're gonna go do what we want

40:24

to do no matter who the coach.

40:25

But that happened. If Sean Payton's the coach, I don't know, absolutely

40:30

would have gone.

40:30

So I would have gone for it wouldn't

40:33

been a victory.

40:34

Said no, if Sean said we kneeling now, I

40:36

don't.

40:36

I've seen I've seen us beat the breaks off

40:38

of the Philadelphia Eagles and we're up by like

40:40

thirty something forty something. He's like

40:43

looking around and like it could have it's clearly

40:45

a time to take a knee victory formation, and

40:47

sees Malcolm Jenkins in the secondary, a legendary

40:50

Saints player who had been gone to Philadelphia,

40:52

and was like, aka, over the top

40:54

now and we're up by like thirty five

40:56

forty. You know. It was like, and we're

40:59

going up top. So I don't see Sean Ever

41:01

saying no to score more touchdowns. Sean yeah,

41:04

Drew Brees, yeah, say no to more

41:06

touchdowns. Right. That's

41:08

like, that's like you have one hundred bucks and I have I'm about to

41:10

give you a hundred bucks, and you're you're your

41:13

financial advisors saying we don't want an

41:15

right.

41:15

There was we talked about a lot on the show.

41:18

There was there was like a lot going

41:20

on with the Saints this year, like they were just a

41:22

strange team to figure out where I'm friends

41:25

with a lot of Saints fans kind of followed the coverage,

41:27

and the fans sometimes.

41:29

Were just like frustrated.

41:31

They were frustrated in a way that was almost

41:34

unusual for a team that was still you know,

41:36

in the mix in first place a lot of the years,

41:38

and and I think it was understandable that they were

41:40

frustrated with all the success that they had,

41:42

and then after the season a few things kind of struck

41:44

me of.

41:45

Somehow we blew a seventeen point lead to the Green Bay

41:47

Packers.

41:48

That happened. I remember that that was early.

41:50

Mickey Loomis said something about after

41:53

the season, this is what struck me of that like,

41:56

we we need to do some changes

41:58

maybe with the roster and personnel to

42:01

improve the culture. And that that

42:03

that comment was like, hm, improve the culture because when

42:05

they hired Dennis Sound, they were like, we're keeping Dennis

42:07

Ound because we want to keep this culture going.

42:09

He's the guy that's been there and been running this defense.

42:12

So like, what do you what do you think Mickey Lewis

42:14

is talking about there, like with the culture

42:16

when.

42:16

There I've learned to not put my GM hat

42:19

on. Okay, yeah I've I've I've played

42:21

this game and it's never worked out. Well. I was like, yeah,

42:23

this is what we're gonna do with the draft, this is how we knowing it, this

42:25

is what our team needs, and have been completely

42:27

wrong, you know. So

42:30

I was like, yeah, we're gonna get a defense Vin And then

42:32

in the first round we got a corner and I was like, and then

42:34

we got back into the first round and I was like,

42:36

oh, this is the d N time. And then we went

42:39

off as a tackle which turned

42:41

out to be a phenomenal draft. So you learn

42:43

to shut the hell up and let the up top do what they're

42:45

supposed to do. They're supposed to want more.

42:48

If we're three years driving playoffs

42:50

and maybe there's a culture

42:52

shop needs to be happened. I think there's

42:54

there's a core group of our players that, uh

42:57

push positivity and whatever

42:59

it is. In fact, I loved our locker room

43:01

this year. But if our locker room isn't

43:03

winning at a high rate, things are gonna have to shake.

43:06

And one day they're be like, hey Cam,

43:09

your time, Bud, And I'm like, hey, I

43:11

hope the Saints keep on winning. Whatever

43:13

it takes. I just want the Saints to win.

43:16

We'll close it out with a little legacy talk. So

43:18

I'm looking at.

43:20

Twenty six years toward in football there pick which

43:22

pick which? You're talking about Pro Football Reference. By the way

43:25

your head shots are, they're always on point. What do

43:27

you got in start for this year?

43:28

Oh, I don't know, I don't

43:30

know.

43:30

I like the the l Diablo look last year

43:32

that that one was probably my were.

43:34

You talking about the mustache twist up? That was a few years

43:37

ago. I still had like I'd still a dreads

43:39

you do you take? I had a Jerry curl

43:41

after that one. That was I now,

43:44

I don't understand when you know. Dion Sanders

43:46

was like, it looks dry, but it's it's wet, or it

43:48

was wet, but it looks whatever it was. I

43:50

was like, I need that.

43:51

This this best reason Butler with the NBA,

43:54

he's kind of your version in the NBA doing Fallout

43:56

Boy that way.

43:56

This that was crazy This year is kind of like you're looking

43:59

like you guy that maybe was on the airplane and you kind

44:01

of let one go and you're waiting to see if anybody notices no, no,

44:03

this one.

44:04

This one was the Alan Iverson inspired

44:07

walk over the Head but oh scraping

44:11

over Tying Lou you know, yeah,

44:13

but.

44:13

Here we go.

44:13

So you have one hundred and seventeen and

44:15

a half career sex and the

44:18

most ever by the Saints, and that is a team that

44:20

has some big time players in their history.

44:23

Number one on the list is Bruce Smith. We're not going to get

44:25

to two two hundred. But if you get

44:27

to one twenty three eighteen years Yeah, we saw

44:29

him last and it looked like like he's thirty

44:32

seven.

44:33

When I get to one twenty five this upcoming season, yeah,

44:35

I.

44:35

Was gonna say that puts you in the top twenty, and that puts you

44:37

in the club of the great late Derrek, Thomas,

44:40

Dwight, Free, and e Von Miller.

44:41

Let's let's get in that top twenty eight.

44:45

Dwight had one twenty five and

44:47

a half and to get to get

44:49

into the top twenty, Math is at one twenty three,

44:52

which is what five and a half sacks suck?

44:53

Sure, I think we could do that. Keep playing the Falcons,

44:55

it's time.

44:56

Yeah. Yeah, as long as my ankle doesn't go out week eleven,

44:58

I have to go hobble around for seven weeks. Yeah,

45:00

I see, I see myself doing that. The

45:03

key is to stay, you know. They say the best ability is availability.

45:05

And although I played, I was not

45:07

at my regular

45:09

standard of living after. In fact,

45:11

I had a dag on Atlanta game, So you think I care

45:14

about Atlanta.

45:14

How frustrating is that when you're just a boy,

45:16

won't listen to you.

45:17

Yeah, it was a tin car pile up and everything landed

45:19

on my ankle.

45:21

All right, Well, hopefully next season

45:24

you stay healthy and your dominant

45:26

force as you've been your whole career. Thank you, buddy, and yes,

45:28

check out the off the edge button.

45:29

Now listen.

45:30

We don't always give massive

45:33

endorsements of podcasts, but we're gonna

45:35

do it right here because Cam's the real

45:37

deal. He's got obviously a

45:39

big podcast future. So let's get

45:41

on the let's get on the carpet ride.

45:43

Well, according according to

45:46

you know, my people, last night, I showed

45:48

some dance moves. Maybe I just I

45:50

quit this football thing and you know, just go tap dancing

45:52

for the rest of my life.

45:53

I don't get in the top twenty first. And then it

45:56

all right, Cavin Jordan, thank you, buddy.

45:57

I appreciate you guys having me on.

45:59

Thank you.

46:00

All right, there it goes Cam. We'll take a break and we'll be right

46:02

back right

46:10

welcome back. It is time.

46:13

It is time to

46:15

pick the game. That

46:18

game being Super Bowl fifty eight, and

46:23

let's go around the horn. Let's pick the game.

46:25

And then while we're here, as

46:28

per tradition, please

46:30

share your sangwage prop

46:34

for Super Bowl fifty eight. We'll each

46:36

have one. We should

46:38

be hanging some onion here, right. I think

46:40

we all know we should. It's a super Bowl, so

46:44

Mark, get us going houses.

46:46

And I think here is two things on the line

46:49

here with you. Mark, I just thinking about this, as

46:51

we learned yesterday, you did

46:54

predict Niners Chiefs

46:56

back in September.

46:57

Correct.

46:57

I wouldn't call it a daring prediction, but I yes,

47:01

and you deserve credit for that, Yes, so much

47:03

credit. We have another situation going on as well.

47:05

Unless I'm mistaken, do you have a

47:08

win yet in the picks in the playoffs, because

47:10

this could be history.

47:11

I don't think I've won since like November.

47:14

I think I think you are winless

47:17

in your picks so far in the playoffs and the locks.

47:19

So obviously this is also our final lock of the week,

47:22

lock of the season. Second half

47:24

standings on the line, Greg, A lot on the line

47:26

in this game.

47:27

I don't think it's on the line anymore. You blew

47:29

it.

47:29

I didn't blow anything. You lost last

47:31

time, So that means your one game

47:33

up with want to play?

47:34

Okay, you could tie in the site and I also believe

47:37

in my situation.

47:38

And also I have the extra first place vote

47:42

it would go to me.

47:43

Yes, there's an inglorious aspect

47:45

to my situation that I believe

47:47

I'm notched at nine wins and you

47:49

need to get I was told that no one has

47:52

ever finished with only nine wins.

47:54

All right, so there's a lot on the line. Let's see what you got, Mark,

47:56

all right.

47:57

So I so this is what I predicted way

48:00

back when forty nine Ers

48:02

twenty eight, Chiefs twenty

48:04

four. But I want to explain how this game

48:06

ends. Yeah, go ahead, because the Chiefs, you know, they've not allowed

48:08

thirty one points. All yeah, it's all these like their defense

48:10

has been so tight. Kyle Shanahan's

48:13

this is what I wrote for Endon for dot Com. Kyle Shanahan's

48:16

winding quest to lift the Lombardi

48:18

crescendos on a February night in Las

48:20

Vegas is Brock Purty tilts

48:22

Kansas City's defense for three scores and

48:25

four hundred plus yards. The play of the

48:27

game, though, is San Francisco's seventy

48:29

seven yard pick six of Patrick

48:31

Mahomes that seals the deal with seconds

48:34

to go in the final frame.

48:35

Right. I love that. I love it.

48:37

Mark, You are always looking to

48:40

ring it on the old horseshoe there, and that's that's

48:42

a needle to thread.

48:43

But I believe in you.

48:44

I like I also like we're

48:46

not all agreeing and I'm

48:49

picking the Chiefs, so I like we're on

48:51

different sides. I'm locking up the Chiefs. Twenty

48:54

seven to twenties my score, it's just under that

48:56

number. I do think it's going to be more of a running and

48:59

a little bit of defense games a little under

49:01

that that over under.

49:02

You know, they're a dynasty.

49:04

Some would say my locks title,

49:07

staying at home in Santa Monica

49:09

is a bit of a dynasty. It actually started this

49:11

four four lock trophies in five

49:14

year run by picking the Chiefs

49:16

over and over and over again. So I'm gonna go back

49:18

to the to the people that

49:21

helped me get there. And sometimes we talked earlier

49:23

in the week about Andy Reid and Patrick

49:25

Mahomes and the journey that they've been on

49:28

into becoming all time greats, and sometimes

49:30

that's all it is, is just elevating

49:32

at the big moments in the season. Travis Kelcey

49:35

was four for thirteen on contested catches in

49:37

that game against the Ravens, three for three mvs

49:40

like you might.

49:41

Not think it was one of the great players.

49:42

Three for fourteen all year and plus twenty

49:44

air yard type throws, three for four in

49:46

the playoffs.

49:47

They're just they're just playing better.

49:48

Look at the teams they beat to beat, to beat

49:50

the Dolphins and to beat the Bills

49:52

and the Ravens in a row, that's a murderers

49:55

row.

49:56

Let's come though. Okay, Dolphins is a

49:58

tough you know, the offense. I think the way

50:00

that the defense bridget temperature is it's totally fair.

50:03

But they won that game easily.

50:05

That competition they've been beating, to

50:07

me, has been more impressive than the Niners

50:11

sneaking by. So I do like

50:13

the Chiefs to really put

50:15

the dot on this dynasty get their

50:17

third title. Good game twenty seven

50:19

to twenty. But the forty nine ers, to me, they

50:22

feel like supporting players in someone

50:24

else's story.

50:25

All Right, So.

50:28

I'm annoyed now because I can't

50:30

go against how I feel, and it's

50:32

gonna cost me the second half title.

50:34

But I'll live with that second half co title.

50:36

Greg, We're always you know, well, I had

50:38

that extra first place vote,

50:40

but it's gonna be It's gonna show once again

50:43

at the level of integrity that I operate on

50:45

at all times. I'm not going to change

50:47

just because Greg went chalk as he always does.

50:50

They're literally the underdogs for what it's

50:52

worth. I mean, they're too stranibout.

50:54

Everybody knows how you do your things, Okay,

50:56

so congratulations on your titles, you

50:59

know whatever. Okay, I

51:02

do like the Chiefs here, and I got burned

51:04

like so many other people picking against them.

51:06

Me too, by the way, I been wrong in the.

51:07

AFC title game. I thought it finally was

51:10

Lamar's year. I thought Baltimore was the better team.

51:12

And I'm gonna say it again here. I think

51:14

the forty nine ers as they are presently

51:17

constituted, their best game, I

51:19

think is better than the Chief's best game the way

51:21

their roster is constituted.

51:22

And if Brock.

51:23

Perdy, for instance, came out, came into this game

51:25

sharp, and he was hitting throws,

51:28

and you get McCaffrey making plays,

51:30

and you have all this talent that San Francisco

51:33

is on offense, if their defense can just

51:35

play a B game, they're gonna

51:37

be okay. Because Kansas City has shown, even during

51:39

this great run in the playoffs, that they're not

51:42

an explosive offense. They're still not one, even though

51:44

they've had better success than they were having in

51:46

the during a very difficult regular season.

51:49

However, I

51:52

just can't do it.

51:52

I'm not gonna be the guy that goes against

51:55

Mahomes in this spot. I think he's

51:57

gonna find a way. So I'm also and

51:59

this this was already here, Greg, I also

52:01

have twenty seven to twenty. So we have the same

52:03

pick, the same score. Let's see what happens.

52:06

I wrote on NFL dot Com that

52:08

I thought Mahomes wins another MVP, but it's going

52:11

to be the SPACs defense that makes

52:13

plays that are memorable. The more I think

52:15

about it, as I spin now to my

52:17

Sangwich prop and we'll come back that starting

52:20

on my side. With that, I

52:23

think there will be an element. So

52:27

one of the offense having a big

52:30

day.

52:30

And one of the.

52:30

Most maddening dumb storylines

52:33

around this NFL season and our

52:35

world, emanating

52:38

out of certain corners of news media,

52:40

is that the NFL is fixed, that the

52:42

NFL is somehow this

52:45

has been preordained, and specifically,

52:48

the corporate synergy on display between

52:50

Taylor and Travis is

52:53

a sign that the NFL would wield the chiefs

52:56

to this spot. We'll get your popcorn ready. People

52:59

that love that can conspiracy theory, because

53:01

I think Kelsey is going to have a monster game

53:03

here. My Sangwich prop is that Kelsey

53:06

becomes the first player in Super Bowl history to

53:09

surpass two hundred yards receiving in a game

53:12

since Jerry Rice went off for two fifteen

53:14

and twenty three.

53:15

Wow, super Bowl twenty three. That

53:17

is That is my lock. Kelsey

53:19

goes for two.

53:20

Hundred tailored down on the field,

53:23

sparks flying, and everyone

53:25

is mad.

53:27

That's my thing. Everyone, well, sod

53:29

everybody. We won't start mad. People will

53:31

be big mad.

53:33

I'm happy they're happy. It seems like a beautiful

53:35

relationship. I think they're in it to win it for the long run.

53:38

That's I don't know. If I could put a sandwich prop on their

53:40

marriage at some point, that'd be very long term.

53:42

But I I like those odds. But I like the

53:45

under two hundred yards even more.

53:47

I mean, they got a hang onion, bro. That's more the super

53:49

Bowl. That's more than hanging. That's that's

53:51

out there.

53:51

That's beautiful, and I

53:54

relish how the

53:57

hordes of people are just looking past the

53:59

forty nine ers because of a

54:01

two week sample size from the Kansas

54:03

City Chiefs.

54:04

They're kidding, it's a very even in terms

54:06

of happy I think their favorites amazing.

54:10

People just think that the Kansas City Chiefs

54:12

are back entirely. It's like the

54:14

larger like sample size tells us that they

54:16

were going to regress back to gaffes,

54:19

drops, some issues, some problems and

54:21

having to be that.

54:21

Often, just like I thought that was gonna happen in the playoffs.

54:24

But that's a.

54:24

Straw man argument because literally

54:27

favorites and in terms of Vegas

54:29

like the the this you know what they would

54:31

say, the sharps, all the.

54:33

Money is coming in on the forty nine ers.

54:34

It's not a straw man in the sense that there has been a

54:37

wave of support for the Chiefs that was

54:39

simply not there two weeks ago.

54:40

It's based on a two.

54:42

Weeks sample size and it's not, you know, false

54:44

or a ghost, but.

54:45

But it's not. I think people are looking

54:47

past the niners in the city. It's like a five year

54:50

sample size, that's all. And then I'm turning out the

54:52

flipping the switch.

54:53

So we were talking about the Chiefs a certain way for

54:55

eighteen weeks, yes, and now we're talking

54:57

about them differently.

54:58

For three weeks it's a different Yeah.

55:00

Well that's but that's that's a presumption that

55:03

that's exactly who they are from here on

55:05

that.

55:05

That's all I'm with you. It's always very difficult in the playoffs,

55:08

which deew balance more. And that connects

55:10

with my sandwich proplem. I'm going Isaiah

55:12

Pichecko is going over

55:14

one hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage

55:16

in this game because I am waiting

55:19

what I've seen the last handful of weeks

55:21

from the forty nine ers defense. I think they're

55:23

what sticks out most in this game that they

55:25

have not been up for the challenge. I don't care about the

55:27

effort thing. That's like two plays essentially

55:30

in two players in very specific

55:32

places. It's just that they're been mediocre. They've

55:34

been mediocre in the biggest of spots. They

55:37

should have lost that Packers game. They were really

55:39

outplayed in that game. They didn't play well in the Detroit

55:41

game and got bailed out. The defense of the forty nine

55:43

Ers is the only reason I don't think they win this game,

55:46

and so I'm going to checko over one hundred

55:48

and fifty yards from scrimmage.

55:50

Oh you've been talking about that all right? How about you? Mark?

55:52

Are we where are you taking that? Are

55:54

you taking that?

55:55

Oh?

55:55

Yeah, yeah, we didn't.

55:56

We didn't take that.

55:57

Took you take it?

55:58

I thought that was for all the time that

56:01

we call certain things onion hangers in terms of a

56:03

game situation.

56:04

That's a huge one right now. Man, I'm probably doomed, but that's

56:06

a huge one. If it like, will you guys

56:09

buy me a sangwich? If he goes for one to eighty four, well

56:11

then just lower the number of them. Not

56:13

bro, I'm going for I think it's a nice round

56:15

number. Yeah, give me two hundred first and stare. I'll

56:17

take yours too. I think that yours is more probable.

56:20

If like everything went right for the

56:22

the Chiefs, you.

56:24

Could break off an eighty yard or at some point you know, you.

56:26

Know, still would be certainly longer long

56:28

odds in terms of you know, it'd be like plus three hundred

56:30

or something.

56:30

I will take you up on it, but it's certainly within the range

56:33

of outcomes.

56:34

That's the other part. Mark.

56:35

San Francisco's defense certainly

56:37

could could be exposed in this game.

56:39

That's true, but I would say their defensive woes

56:41

are also more recent than the longer

56:43

sample size. But I'm not big on their defense. But they

56:46

gave up sixty what matters

56:48

the most. It is, But I'm just saying like that they gave

56:50

like in two playoff games, they gave up like

56:52

sixty seven more yards on the ground than they had

56:55

at any like average wise in the season.

56:57

So and I honestly think that the come to Jesus

56:59

talk from Wilke's like, yeah, does matter.

57:01

Like they lost the pride a little bit.

57:03

I'm usually with you, Mark, I'm usually the numbers

57:05

over the season matter more. I

57:08

look that the forty nine ers are favored. You just can't

57:10

sell me on the no one believes in them argument. They're

57:12

literally favored. I mean, and it's a coin flip.

57:15

But I actually think you're making good points

57:17

and if you're crow, if you're peacocking at

57:19

the end of Sunday, it wouldn't surprise me, Like

57:21

this is game, not much would surprise

57:23

me.

57:24

And I think the forty nine ers, I agree

57:26

with you too, that their best.

57:27

Game is the other thing that that doesn't

57:29

matter is everything that came before this

57:32

game. If I beat the both of you in this lot,

57:34

that's all that anyone will remember. I'll give you

57:36

that you want the trophy, I will. I

57:39

will purchase my trophy if I'd

57:42

vote for me. I vote for you too, Erica,

57:44

vote too, Eric for one game?

57:47

How many weeks have we had? I think I'm

57:50

I think I'm seventeen and four. Right, Well, that that's

57:52

might be a record.

57:53

That might be a r by the way, I buy into hashtag

57:56

effort gait. I don't even know if some of the Niners

57:58

defenders are going to show up for the game like I

58:00

do not.

58:01

I'm lazy. I'm laying on the couch. We didn't

58:03

get your sandwich.

58:04

Prap all right, So I'm gonna do a very

58:06

mean thing because I got a I got it like a

58:08

symbol from the sky. Earlier this

58:10

week that in Las Vegas this week, a

58:13

player was bit by a coyote.

58:14

According to some reports.

58:15

Okay, a lot of people reaching out about right,

58:18

and I that's something that I said would happen

58:20

a while back.

58:22

I often say things that will happen, and they happen,

58:24

you know, down to that a player would

58:26

lose.

58:26

I believe it was a player would lose

58:28

like some playing time by being bitten by an animal.

58:32

Now this in this case, it's a little bit off. It's a little

58:34

too specific.

58:37

I'm accepting that he probably did say

58:39

that. Well, people

58:41

are reaching out to me and saying this is true. Well,

58:44

listen, I understand how this works with you guys.

58:46

But it's been too

58:48

quiet in Las Vegas. It's

58:51

been far too quiet.

58:52

Like this city. It's Friday.

58:54

All of this business, this nonsense, this

58:56

like look at look at me business is about to shut

58:59

down, and it's about to become an

59:01

explosion of human non

59:03

virtue and problems and

59:05

bad choices and all sorts of stuff.

59:08

And I am telling you I'm

59:10

not I just think this energy will feed

59:12

out to the entire NFL sphere. Uh huh,

59:14

that between now and the end of the game

59:18

what I would call a far reaching NFL

59:20

story. You know, when we get those, it's like Whenie when Boundegate

59:22

started, it's like, oh, you know, we're going to be reporting

59:24

on this for the next three or four months. I'm not

59:27

talking like two weeks or one week, and then it disappears.

59:29

It's like this is gonna go deep and gonna go long.

59:32

And wide in terms of like a story,

59:34

a far reaching NFL story that lasts

59:36

for months will hatch before the game ends.

59:39

Oh, but it can only be within the confines of the four

59:41

quarters.

59:42

Well no, no, no, the minute I

59:44

said this and the end of

59:46

the game. What if something has already happened, it just hasn't

59:48

been reported yet. I think that would qualify.

59:51

I mean, it happened, not if it happened

59:54

in September.

59:54

But if it happen, does it have to be reported by

59:57

Sunday Night?

59:58

No?

59:58

No, No, I would I would say the

1:00:00

bet has to close. Well, wager's got a close

1:00:03

on the Sunday Show.

1:00:05

In spirit, I would think that it would have to happen

1:00:07

that we know about it by the end of the game.

1:00:09

I'll go with that because I think otherwise neither or.

1:00:11

By the end by the time we get to this in the podcast

1:00:14

late Sunday Night, which IST's

1:00:16

coming out?

1:00:17

Stuff's coming out? Okay? And I think

1:00:19

when I.

1:00:20

Say far reaching NFL story, I think we can agree

1:00:22

on one that if we were back on the on the news desk, you'd

1:00:24

be thinking headache, headache, headache,

1:00:26

for weeks months to come.

1:00:28

I had something similar cooked up. So

1:00:30

that's why I'm not going to take you on it, because

1:00:32

I too believe something's

1:00:35

gonna happen.

1:00:35

But would you not take that? I

1:00:38

really I have.

1:00:39

A feeling that's the worst movie. Something

1:00:42

newsworthy.

1:00:44

We'll move the needle, and yes, isn't it too

1:00:47

hushed? It's too hushed? Right?

1:00:49

The forty nine ers having another

1:00:51

alarm clock wake them up fifteen minutes early

1:00:53

does not qualify.

1:00:54

It has to be massive. So I will take you.

1:00:56

Up on this.

1:00:57

Cam Newton's walking behind us with a cigar, saying,

1:01:00

you can't do that. What is this nineteen eighty six?

1:01:02

Right?

1:01:03

They're smoking in our hotel all over the place?

1:01:06

Are that?

1:01:07

Yeah?

1:01:07

I walked down up it is Vegas. Yeah, I walked out

1:01:09

of the hotel number two.

1:01:10

It's the last more horse smoking smoking

1:01:13

men's cigarettes.

1:01:14

All right, there you go. Those are our super

1:01:17

Bowl predictions. Those are our sandwich props. I

1:01:19

stand with you on that one, Mark.

1:01:20

Okay, I'm glad that you do, because

1:01:23

I think that that s the just legitimacy.

1:01:26

All right, let's uh, let's take

1:01:29

a break, and then we

1:01:31

will welcome in certain

1:01:34

members of a certain team of

1:01:36

a certain podcast up next.

1:01:45

Yeah, you heard it.

1:01:49

Our guests now joining us from

1:01:52

the Minnesota Vikings,

1:01:54

Kirk Cousins and kJ Osbourne.

1:01:57

Welcome to around the NFL, fellas, And there's

1:01:59

the chant. Can you can you picture? It's almost

1:02:01

your back. I can feel it inside the building.

1:02:03

I can feel it. This is the best entro yeah, best

1:02:06

stadium right.

1:02:07

Yeah, they hit a home run with it. Really

1:02:09

well done, Pirk. Heyja,

1:02:13

tell us what you're doing here with bounty. Let's

1:02:15

get into that.

1:02:16

Well, you know you can't have We've had some wings

1:02:18

that we've set up at these different stations,

1:02:20

and you really can't have wings without

1:02:22

having Bounty paper towels. So uh

1:02:25

so we're really you know, I understand a lot of people

1:02:27

on Sunday watch the Super Bowl gonna have wings. They're gonna have

1:02:29

parties and have all kinds of good food. To

1:02:31

make sure you don't forget about the Bounty paper

1:02:33

towels, because I've hosted some parties through college

1:02:35

through the years where I forgot the paper towels and problem,

1:02:38

so.

1:02:39

You can't you can't have football with our wings.

1:02:41

What if somebody brings the wrong paper towels, you just kick

1:02:43

them out of the party. Oh yeah, for sure, Yeah,

1:02:45

he has to be bounty.

1:02:47

It's not gonna work.

1:02:49

It's not gonna I've.

1:02:49

Always felt that. I agree.

1:02:52

Howse little here's a little This start

1:02:55

eleven season at ATEN and every

1:02:57

year we pick a team of around the NFL. This

1:03:00

year we picked the Vikings and

1:03:02

it was after Kirk's injury

1:03:04

and we we kind of said, let's get behind this as

1:03:07

an underdog story didn't quite work out,

1:03:09

but you we had your backs all

1:03:11

season long. We want you guys to know that.

1:03:12

I love that.

1:03:13

Yeah, I appreciate it. Man.

1:03:14

What's going on with the with the Achilles.

1:03:16

Let's I know you've been asked that seven thousand times.

1:03:18

Where are you at?

1:03:19

Yeah, so I'm three months in, probably got about four

1:03:21

months to go. I'm hoping I can get back. I expect

1:03:23

to be able to get back for seven on seven and OTAs

1:03:26

because you're you know, you're safe there. You're just taking

1:03:28

your drop back with nobody around you making

1:03:30

the throws. I'm

1:03:33

hoping to be able to do team drills too. But we'll cross

1:03:35

that bridge and we get there and then go into the summer break

1:03:37

fully cleared, fully healthy. But

1:03:40

the first three months has been a positive experience. I was nervous

1:03:42

because I haven't had surgery before, I haven't had big

1:03:44

rehab. But uh, you know, the

1:03:47

surgery coming out with the cast and

1:03:49

the scooter and then the walking

1:03:51

boot and now you know, getting back in a shoe.

1:03:54

It's been a real positive process. The Vikings training

1:03:56

STAB has been outstanding and it's

1:03:59

been a good first three months.

1:04:00

Yeah, kjuh.

1:04:02

You know, I know at this point in the season when we chose

1:04:04

you as a team of around the NFL podcast, clearly

1:04:06

it made big We

1:04:10

just blew out everyone's ears.

1:04:12

Sorry, guys, No, that was awesome. I like,

1:04:15

I am so excited that it happened.

1:04:18

Eric, You're fired. I'm sorry.

1:04:19

Uh, the team of at and you know, I'm sure

1:04:22

that was big news in the locker room, you guys talking

1:04:24

about it. We were now an international award

1:04:27

winning podcast. How

1:04:29

did how did that feel to be embraced

1:04:32

by by the podcast with Josh

1:04:34

Dobbs and all the different quarterbacks that

1:04:36

kind of went through there.

1:04:37

Oh, we love it.

1:04:37

We love any any any love we get, man, we love

1:04:39

it.

1:04:40

We appreciate it.

1:04:40

And uh, you know, we got a great fan base up there

1:04:42

in Minnesota, so they show us a ton

1:04:45

of love as well.

1:04:45

What was that like that that end stretch

1:04:48

of the season which had some awesome ups,

1:04:50

it had downs, It had a little bit of everything

1:04:53

throughout that stretch and you're without your leader, Kirk,

1:04:56

but you have different quarterbacks who come

1:04:58

in and all sort of had their moments.

1:04:59

And then like, what was that whole

1:05:01

season like?

1:05:02

Because it feels like the Vikings are always

1:05:04

a lot like no matter what, there's

1:05:06

a lot going on, Like it's a fun

1:05:08

team to watch, like the ups and the and a little bit.

1:05:10

Of the downs.

1:05:11

Yeah, man, it was a lot of ups and downs. But you know, whoever

1:05:13

coach puts in there, that's what we're gonna rally around. And one

1:05:15

of the things in the receiver room we say, we

1:05:17

try to be wide open, you know, so try to make the

1:05:19

job easier for the quarterback man for you know, we talked

1:05:21

about the forty seconds that before the

1:05:23

play clock that you know, you guys don't hear on TV and

1:05:25

everything like that, and the pre snaps and the motions

1:05:27

and everything like that. If we are up

1:05:30

on our game as receivers, you know, we can help the quarterback

1:05:32

out. And again, just being wide open for him, and you

1:05:34

know, any guy that coach puts in and there we're gonna

1:05:36

trust him.

1:05:38

Kirk, can we talk a little carcassance? I

1:05:40

don't know if you've heard that thrown.

1:05:41

Around, heard that thrown out?

1:05:42

So I really think obviously

1:05:45

is a well known thing.

1:05:46

A year agoing onnors you came out as Kirk

1:05:48

O chains and the famous team playing moment.

1:05:50

I really feel like, and tell me if you agree

1:05:53

or disagree from our standpoint.

1:05:55

On the outside, it was like a turning point in

1:05:58

how Kirk Cousins was seen. Like

1:06:00

it was like, oh, these guys love playing with him.

1:06:02

Uh, You've always been a

1:06:05

well known as a good guy and a productive

1:06:07

player, But did you feel like

1:06:09

a change from the outside a little how

1:06:11

you're seeing after that kind of took off a

1:06:13

little bit.

1:06:13

That was interesting.

1:06:14

If I had known that, I probably would have been on a playing shirt

1:06:16

list of chains On in like year two or three. But

1:06:19

it took till year eleven to figure

1:06:21

that out. So I know it certainly has

1:06:24

has created a bit of a change. I think I've always

1:06:26

been the same guy, but perception was probably

1:06:28

different than reality, and perceptions

1:06:31

maybe catching up to reality a little in

1:06:33

some ways. And so that's kind

1:06:35

of where we stand now.

1:06:37

kJ like doing Kirk

1:06:40

as his teammate and as

1:06:42

you know, the leader in your

1:06:44

huddle. Did y'all watch the Netflix

1:06:47

show and like, was there anything from it?

1:06:50

You guys gave him some grief about

1:06:52

from the Netflix show.

1:06:54

I think a lot of people I loving that show.

1:06:56

I love kirkt it.

1:06:57

I loved it, you know a lot of I got a lot of feedback

1:07:00

from trying to.

1:07:00

Keep a secret during the season. So we

1:07:02

were trying to be low key. We didn't want to be distractions. So if

1:07:05

anything, the grief I got was, we.

1:07:07

Don't even know.

1:07:07

You didn't tell you didn't tell us, We didn't know. You know, it

1:07:10

was a little fishy because you know, there was always cameras

1:07:12

up at practice. I'm like, that's not the team. I'm

1:07:14

like, somebody's miked up every day, but

1:07:16

nobody you know, usually that stuff gets out. But it was

1:07:18

it was a good secret. It was a good secret.

1:07:20

Yeah, that was such a great

1:07:22

look. And I think maybe that also played

1:07:25

into the circussants a little bit. I think, yeah,

1:07:27

and just seeing like the dedication

1:07:29

it takes and after the season

1:07:31

ended in the in the playoffs, like you

1:07:34

know, you're getting up early and spending the time

1:07:36

with the family. That I mean, it's it's

1:07:38

I think it's good for people that haven't

1:07:40

played the game.

1:07:42

Too to see like the human side. That

1:07:44

show was such a great job.

1:07:46

Yeah, that was the fun of it was that we

1:07:49

do cover a lot of the football. Maybe this show

1:07:51

can cover the football. And

1:07:53

and I think the and was what was so fun.

1:07:55

About it, right, I

1:07:57

like, my kid loves that and

1:08:00

he has like an hour of TV he gets

1:08:02

to watch a day, and he's choosing to watch that

1:08:04

show, which

1:08:07

kind of boggles my mind.

1:08:08

So he forces a child to watch football content.

1:08:12

Kids the same way, right, Like I've

1:08:14

seen the ex players at NFL Network how they train their

1:08:16

kids to become NFL players.

1:08:17

It's not gonna happen with my body him

1:08:20

to be to be a podcast.

1:08:22

There you go.

1:08:23

Now, you guys are here at you know, as teammates.

1:08:26

Uh, your futures are are somewhat

1:08:29

up in the area going into Have you

1:08:31

ever thought kJ of

1:08:34

seeing what Kirk's done as a businessman

1:08:36

in his career.

1:08:37

He's gotten it done.

1:08:39

Maybe you combine forces,

1:08:42

combine the leverage, you're stronger together

1:08:44

as a free agent tandem just the thought.

1:08:47

I've never even thought of that, Like, go to free agency

1:08:49

as a as a group, as as.

1:08:51

Like a team, not as a friends.

1:08:53

Guy, did you watch Friends? Friends

1:08:56

is a little bit ahead of my time.

1:08:58

I never really resonated with so you totally

1:09:00

mispegged me there, I'm not a friend.

1:09:02

I'm sorry and apologize. It's a bad job by me.

1:09:04

But they had an ingenious move where

1:09:06

the six main cast members negotiated

1:09:09

together and they did we get the

1:09:11

same amount of money?

1:09:13

We go to the same place and

1:09:16

work out.

1:09:17

It was a record setting show. Maybe

1:09:19

we try the same thing. I would not be

1:09:21

against if I had to pick someone to team up

1:09:24

with to do that, the guy to my right

1:09:26

would be someone I would pick.

1:09:27

So, uh, it's a good idea.

1:09:29

How does it feel like this? This time of year is just

1:09:31

an awkward time?

1:09:32

It is?

1:09:33

It's a good word when you're a little in between for

1:09:35

both of you. Just I guess, how are

1:09:37

you feeling? What are you thinking going into it

1:09:39

as free agents?

1:09:41

Yeah, we said March is the month, and we're in February

1:09:43

and the season at of January seventh, so you really have

1:09:45

two months of no news

1:09:48

and you're not supposed to have news.

1:09:49

It's just kind of a waiting game, and

1:09:52

that's okay.

1:09:52

So you have a lot of people asking about

1:09:54

it when you run into them in town and they want

1:09:56

to all the.

1:09:56

Updates, and I say, I don't have any updates.

1:09:59

I'll let you know our seventh days ninth,

1:10:01

that's when things will start to eat up. Until

1:10:03

then, there's no reason to have news because

1:10:05

you really shouldn't for short.

1:10:08

Just this is my first time doing it, so I'm

1:10:10

going through it. I'm learning and I'm asking my as

1:10:12

I'm asking guys, you know it gotta be something you hear,

1:10:14

gotta be you know something. And I'm finding

1:10:16

out the same way as Kirk are saying, you know, it just doesn't

1:10:18

happen until it happens.

1:10:19

Well, I'll say, and we're gonna let you guys go because

1:10:22

we know you're busy. But I've always

1:10:24

had I grew up a Jets fan. I

1:10:26

wanted you to sign with Jet a few years back then it happened,

1:10:28

But the uh

1:10:31

you, I feel like you found a home in Minnesota.

1:10:33

You guys have great chemistry as teammates. Well,

1:10:36

let's run it back, stay in Minnesota. We don't

1:10:38

need but get paid do the friends

1:10:40

thing get paid? All

1:10:43

right, thanks

1:10:45

guys, we appreciate it. All

1:10:55

right, There goes Kirk

1:10:57

and kJ and and

1:10:59

Mark back in the picture. We should have mentioned that Mark stepped

1:11:02

out because we you know, not a lot of mics and marketinged

1:11:04

a blow.

1:11:05

It was a little weird that Mark is still so anti

1:11:08

Minnesota Vikings from what happened with Team of around

1:11:10

the end of the walk off.

1:11:11

He refused to interview. But it's nice

1:11:13

to welcome you back.

1:11:14

Well, it's uh, you know, I I feel

1:11:16

like I could tell that I was missed. It's

1:11:18

really evident, like it was just more talk

1:11:20

space for the two of you, and so fine,

1:11:23

have a nice time.

1:11:23

With it, all right.

1:11:24

So Mark is back though, because we have one

1:11:26

more guest, and this is I mean, this is

1:11:28

a little pop for this guest that it's the final

1:11:31

guest of super Bowl Week at Radio Row. That

1:11:33

shows how much we

1:11:35

care and love Nicky Glazers.

1:11:38

The Great Friday is.

1:11:42

Glazer, who is a tremendously

1:11:45

talented, uh stand up

1:11:47

comedian and host.

1:11:48

And you're doing all podcast hosts.

1:11:50

You have your own podcast that is emanating

1:11:53

out of this very spot.

1:11:54

Right after we finish up. You're Also, you're gonna

1:11:56

be on it.

1:11:57

I can't wait. I can't wait. And uh,

1:11:59

you're touring relentlessly making

1:12:01

that gwop. So check out Nicky's

1:12:04

tour dates on table side Gap, yep

1:12:07

uh wherever and all the socials.

1:12:09

Nicki Glazer, welcome to around the NFL.

1:12:11

Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor

1:12:13

to be here.

1:12:14

This is like, I'm a weird thing.

1:12:16

We go way back, we go way back, and Nicky and

1:12:18

I, I remember.

1:12:19

It's not weird for Mark and I It's pretty normal. No,

1:12:21

But I want to know. I want to know more.

1:12:23

So way back in like two thousand and eight,

1:12:25

when Nicky was first like fresh

1:12:28

from Saint Louis and college,

1:12:31

and I was coming to LA

1:12:33

to work with our buddies Bob and

1:12:35

Jason Zumwaldt, and they were doing these

1:12:39

videos and doing great

1:12:41

stuff, and Nicky was a fan

1:12:43

as well of the work they were doing for the Post show.

1:12:45

Y was well your friend,

1:12:47

Bob.

1:12:48

I was drunk in college one night and I was

1:12:50

a big fan of Best Week Ever. Bob worked on Best

1:12:52

Week Ever. I followed the Best Week

1:12:54

Ever blog on VH one. Bob

1:12:56

did the blog. He had also posted

1:12:58

his aim screen name on the blog,

1:13:00

and because I was a super fan, I was like, I'll just add him to my

1:13:03

buddy list. So one night in college, I came back

1:13:05

to my dorm. I was a little drunk, and I was

1:13:07

like, he's on I'll just like, you

1:13:09

know, instant message him back in the you know, I heard

1:13:11

the like the door open and

1:13:13

then uh. And then I became friends with him from

1:13:15

just aiming him once and then he put me

1:13:17

in some of the sketches when I went to New York. Probably was trying

1:13:20

to make something happen romantically.

1:13:22

Never did, Bob.

1:13:24

I don't know how you resisted, Bob.

1:13:27

There was a.

1:13:28

Rooftop moment where I think we could have kissed.

1:13:30

But I really like I have a way of putting up a

1:13:32

wall that lets people know, like, don't

1:13:35

even try.

1:13:35

To keep their dignity. Yes.

1:13:37

Yeah, It's just.

1:13:38

Like I have friends who get hit on all the time

1:13:41

where I'll just be with them and guys will just

1:13:43

be like, hey, you're gonna finish all that salad? Like They'll

1:13:45

just guys will just say something. But

1:13:47

like or like I was walking with

1:13:49

my friend in the park and some guy was just like, hey,

1:13:52

do you dance? And he's leaning against this motorcycle

1:13:54

and he just us twenty feet away.

1:13:56

It goes, do you dance? And he's not talking to me?

1:13:58

And I go, do people just ask you if you like?

1:14:01

And then she's like, that's oh my god, no I don't. I

1:14:03

go, don't stop talking to us, sir. So I

1:14:05

think I put up a wall with

1:14:07

people, and.

1:14:08

Especially though it's a skill, like a friend.

1:14:09

Zone thing, because I just I like being friends

1:14:12

with men and I don't want a weird thing

1:14:14

to get in the way of that until I choose.

1:14:16

I'm taking notes at the moment just about the tree

1:14:18

thing and the leaning to learn tree don't just leaning.

1:14:21

I put up a similar wall.

1:14:22

That's why I really haven't gotten much attention

1:14:24

from the ladies this week.

1:14:25

But it's just obvious the one no one's ever asked

1:14:28

me to dance in the park, and I know it all connects.

1:14:30

Yes, no one asked me either. I have to

1:14:32

explore it and go why am I not going?

1:14:34

And I wrote you had a Comedy

1:14:36

Central show that Bob was a head writer on, like,

1:14:38

so we're all connected, And well I was in

1:14:40

that world working with the

1:14:42

guys in two thousand and eight and we became

1:14:44

friends, and I remember like,

1:14:47

because I was broke, you were broke

1:14:49

to i'd imagine at the time. And I remember taking

1:14:52

our buddy Brian's car and I would drive

1:14:54

you to like stand up sets occasionally,

1:14:56

and it would be so it's

1:14:59

kind of town.

1:15:00

It's kind of a uh, this is a moment,

1:15:02

Hollywood. It was.

1:15:03

This is a full circle moment. It's so great to

1:15:05

have you here. And I need the reason why it was perfect.

1:15:08

It was a lot of reasons why it was playing.

1:15:11

I don't know, but I.

1:15:12

Love having you.

1:15:13

Guys are literally in between you that you

1:15:15

know, two of the greatest football minds.

1:15:16

And the reason

1:15:19

I thought it would be a lot of fun is number One,

1:15:21

you are a big Taylor Swift

1:15:23

fan.

1:15:23

That's where I feel I do belong here.

1:15:25

Otherwise I would feel like such a fraud and

1:15:28

I would be really embarrassed to be here because I don't

1:15:30

like being places I don't belong and I feel because

1:15:33

of my Tailor Swift knowledge, even though most people

1:15:35

would disagree with that, I do feel like this is

1:15:37

the only year in which I belong to.

1:15:39

Yeah, And like I remember when we

1:15:41

got to know each other because I've always been a sports

1:15:43

guy, like you were very kind of anti sports, like

1:15:45

to keep the sports away from me, and

1:15:48

because.

1:15:48

I'm scared of what I don't understand.

1:15:50

It's not it's not because I I hate

1:15:53

what I don't know, and I don't I

1:15:55

don't seem to really understand football, and

1:15:58

it's been explaining to me many times. I'm I'm starting

1:16:00

to understand it, but I just don't understand how millions

1:16:03

of people understand this very complicated game

1:16:05

like second nature. There's no like training you guys

1:16:08

go through. I always ask my friends, like, so

1:16:10

where did you learn that?

1:16:11

That is?

1:16:12

What did you When did you learn what off sides were?

1:16:14

Whatever? Like these, like did you ask

1:16:16

your dad? Was there a course

1:16:18

in school?

1:16:19

Like you guys start playing football

1:16:21

as little kids, Like do they explain all the little

1:16:24

intricacies of it?

1:16:25

Like how do you look?

1:16:25

It's a daunting sport to kind of

1:16:27

jump into the water.

1:16:28

Video games, video games?

1:16:30

Okay, yes, but

1:16:32

so here's a here's a data point. So Deshriver

1:16:36

mentioned a report from Apex Marketing Group

1:16:38

that estimated more than three hundred and thirty million

1:16:41

in brand value. Taylor Swift

1:16:43

is brought to the NFL and the Chiefs. I don't know what really

1:16:45

any of that means, but I do know that

1:16:48

Swift and the NFL

1:16:51

is on people's radar because it is these two

1:16:54

massive giants of culture and

1:16:56

you are someone now you're watching

1:16:58

the games, like, are you amongst the like

1:17:01

maybe millions of people that are now watching

1:17:03

football for the first time?

1:17:04

Would you want to you to watch it if she

1:17:07

wasn't in Yeah, I.

1:17:07

Think so well, because it also lined up.

1:17:10

The time when Taylor Smith started going to games was also

1:17:12

when my boyfriend moved in with me, and he's a huge

1:17:14

football fan and watches most

1:17:16

of it, and so that was when it

1:17:18

just started being on all the time. So just to enjoy

1:17:21

being around that, I had to start like understanding

1:17:24

it. So I think that he was gone

1:17:26

watching a game recently and I turned

1:17:28

on the game and Taylor wasn't even there because

1:17:30

I did care, and I felt so cool because

1:17:32

for the first time in life, I was on the phone with a

1:17:34

friend who was going through a breakup and I'm like talking

1:17:36

to him on speakerphone, I have the game on mute,

1:17:39

and I felt so cool because at one point he's crying

1:17:41

out something. I go no, and I did

1:17:43

the thing that men do where they react and

1:17:46

then the person on the phone goes what's going on and you

1:17:48

go, oh, I'm just I can't believe she said that

1:17:50

to you or texted you that. I felt so cool

1:17:52

that I had like a man moment where you react

1:17:55

to and not just men, but like mostly react

1:17:57

to something that happened. And I understood what was happening.

1:18:00

It's like it's been an education, but

1:18:02

it's one hundred percent based on Taylor Swift.

1:18:04

And I will say that, you know, I'm

1:18:07

one of these people that has an unhealthy

1:18:09

relationship in my mind with her, of like she's

1:18:11

like.

1:18:11

My friend or whatever.

1:18:13

And I know that discuss some people and confounds

1:18:16

people as well, but it's it truly

1:18:18

is a thing. Like when she won last

1:18:21

week at the Grammys, I

1:18:23

felt this like, oh, it's like my friend is winning.

1:18:26

Like I felt that kind of joy and I thought.

1:18:27

That's so ridiculous.

1:18:29

How she's not my friend. I don't know her. Why

1:18:31

do I feel this? Is that really how I feel?

1:18:32

And then I go, actually, I've had friends when Emmy's

1:18:34

and it's the exact same feeling that I had, So

1:18:37

I do I do feel like she's my

1:18:39

friend. And so when she first started

1:18:41

dating Travis, I.

1:18:43

Was like, the Travis just

1:18:45

like your first name basis with him, It's great.

1:18:47

Yeah, that's where we're at as swift Day's.

1:18:49

I think when Travis and when Travis

1:18:51

she first when he

1:18:53

first gave the friendship bracelet, I remember

1:18:55

being so annoyed and

1:18:58

being like, who does he think he is?

1:19:00

And him being like I wanted to meet her after, but she's

1:19:02

too busy, and it's just like, yeah,

1:19:04

she's Because I didn't know anything about

1:19:06

him. I just thought he was just some guy and was getting

1:19:08

headlines because he talked about her.

1:19:10

So I was like, because this is a thing. If you talk about

1:19:12

Taylor Swift.

1:19:12

You'll get your name, your face next

1:19:14

to hers in some kind of headline if you say anything

1:19:17

in some lead exactly.

1:19:19

And I've never done that intentionally, but yes,

1:19:21

I get my name next to hers on headlines sometimes because I have

1:19:23

a lot of opinions. But I just thought it was his attempt

1:19:25

to like but he's not like that at all, it comes to find.

1:19:27

Out in it it worked.

1:19:30

Is the wild thing that that worked,

1:19:32

like being that bold and when

1:19:34

she first got with Travis, I was like, oh

1:19:37

no, like she's gonna be a football

1:19:39

girly, Like I've never related to girls that like football.

1:19:41

Like I'm losing her, you know.

1:19:43

Like it's like when my friends have kids,

1:19:45

I'm just like, atually I won't relate

1:19:48

to them anymore. We won't care about the same things.

1:19:50

And then I said, try to let

1:19:52

this in and I was able to, and I feel like,

1:19:55

she yeah, I if

1:19:58

she ever has a baby, though, that's.

1:19:59

When I'm at That's where I go, You're moving on.

1:20:01

I can't have a bit.

1:20:02

It's too much. It's a bridge too far. Yeah, yeah,

1:20:05

she a.

1:20:06

Little Kelsey baby like, but yeah, I'm into

1:20:08

it. I feel like the two groups, I mean you should. You

1:20:10

should see like when football fans

1:20:12

are like why would she? You know, Taylor

1:20:14

Show fans get so into this or follow

1:20:17

this person around that they don't even know and get

1:20:19

emotionally involved them, Like there's

1:20:21

a seventy thousand person stadium

1:20:24

of people whose entire weeks

1:20:26

or months or lives or years are

1:20:29

going to rise or fall based on what

1:20:31

happens on that field. And like, whenever

1:20:33

we're in person, it always strikes me it's like, oh

1:20:35

yeah, these are just like other people

1:20:38

doing this thing and they actually have no relation

1:20:40

to me whatsoever. And the people on the Patriots

1:20:42

really aren't that different than the people on the Colts,

1:20:44

even though I built up in my mind. It's

1:20:47

like we're having the exact same parasocial

1:20:49

relationships. It's nice to put yourself

1:20:51

into something that you have no control over.

1:20:53

That's really thank you for saying that, because

1:20:55

I've always That's what I've envied envied

1:20:57

about sports fans, is that you have this commune

1:21:00

and this passion and this thing where you can get so excited

1:21:02

about these events you look forward to. And I just

1:21:04

never had that until I became a swifty and

1:21:06

suddenly I have this community of people where we're all

1:21:09

rooting for this nice the same thing, and it feels

1:21:11

really good.

1:21:11

And yeah, she can.

1:21:13

The only place she plays now are places

1:21:15

that are made for football, so it's like it

1:21:18

is the same thing.

1:21:19

It's a huge connection. It's everyone

1:21:21

dresses up, everyone.

1:21:23

But I've been to ten

1:21:26

a nine eras concert tours in

1:21:28

the past year, and I'm going to three next week, so I'm

1:21:30

gonna I'm getting Australia.

1:21:34

Look at you.

1:21:35

I didn't go there for it. I'm just there for a.

1:21:36

Wedding and she happens to be there, so I'm going. But people

1:21:39

go, how could you go that many times? And

1:21:42

it's like, because it's just it's just a

1:21:44

great Like people go to see games that many times,

1:21:46

but my team always

1:21:48

wins.

1:21:49

Always disappointment.

1:21:51

Yeah, I like I find

1:21:53

a comparison here because when I was very young, I'd

1:21:55

moved back from England.

1:21:56

These guys were tired to hear about this.

1:21:57

But my mom woke me up one morning in

1:21:59

like nineteen eighty four and we went down

1:22:01

and watched the very old television

1:22:04

set.

1:22:04

It was the Charles and Die wedding.

1:22:06

It started at like four in the morning, and we sat there

1:22:08

and like, I'll never forget watching that. And

1:22:10

I kind of think, with where our culture is a little bit

1:22:13

that this is the perfect kind of our version of Charles

1:22:15

and Diana a little bit on some level. But my

1:22:17

question more would be because it makes so much sense

1:22:20

culturally for like the football

1:22:22

star to date like the rock Icon. Yeah,

1:22:24

and maybe the roles are a little reversed. She's the royalty,

1:22:27

but would a do you think the rock

1:22:29

Icon would date someone who podcasts

1:22:32

about football stars where that had the same

1:22:34

hold over the culture.

1:22:36

I think, yeah, I think we will

1:22:38

love whoever she loves. But this is

1:22:40

certainly playing into like, you

1:22:43

know, she's always been the Like she

1:22:45

has a song called fifteen

1:22:47

where she's like, you'll do things greater,

1:22:49

that you'll do things.

1:22:50

Greater than dating the boy on the football.

1:22:53

Team, like where it's like she has all these illusions

1:22:55

throughout, like I wear short skirts, she's on the bleach

1:22:57

shirt.

1:22:57

Well, all that stuff.

1:22:58

It's all been like leading to this, and I

1:23:00

do think it will last a really long time. I don't

1:23:02

think it'll last forever because I don't think anything's due,

1:23:05

especially with the pressure of uh, you

1:23:07

know, but I think I think that this will go

1:23:09

the distance. I think they'll have kids. I think they'll get married

1:23:11

and all that. I don't think there's a proposal coming. Sandwich

1:23:14

on it, Yeah, all right, I'd love to.

1:23:15

We do sandwich pops. Yeah, they will have children.

1:23:18

Yeah.

1:23:18

Running by we'll get an announcement twenty

1:23:20

twenty five December of

1:23:22

a baby only wed.

1:23:24

An Onion on the show. There'll be a.

1:23:27

Predict it now wedding summer

1:23:29

of twenty five, announcement

1:23:32

of baby in December.

1:23:33

That's beautiful prediction. By the way, do you have our

1:23:36

our opening? Because I think she might recognize

1:23:38

the voice. I think Nikki will like this. Let's see, it's a test.

1:23:40

Oh, I know who this.

1:23:41

Is already

1:23:46

around.

1:23:50

That is so this is such a fun,

1:23:52

cool thing to have Nikki here and you. By the way,

1:23:54

check out Nikki on the Good Girl tour. If

1:23:56

you're at the wedding and see your fame

1:23:59

is reaching levels, It's like I got

1:24:01

a million Instagram followers and my friend

1:24:03

is getting married in Australia, I'm gonna go, like,

1:24:06

if you can go to Australia for the wedding and then catch

1:24:08

Taylor a few times.

1:24:10

Nikki, I'm proud of you, I guess, is what I'm saying as a friend.

1:24:12

Yeah, thirty thousand dollars on Taylor Show's tickets

1:24:15

I'm not getting. I mean I'm getting some here

1:24:17

and there. I get a little deals or like

1:24:19

insider, like you can buy tickets for seven hundred

1:24:21

dollars instead of seven thousand. But I'm

1:24:24

not getting any shortcuts from my fame.

1:24:26

I don't think I want to be friends with her.

1:24:28

Okay, it's too heavy, Yeah, it's

1:24:30

too heavy. You're also the host of f Boy Island, which

1:24:32

Mark I know you auditioned for. I'm

1:24:35

sorry, Mark, maybe maybe next

1:24:37

time we.

1:24:38

Can't allow shirts in the swimming pool

1:24:41

and you refuse.

1:24:42

To take it off.

1:24:42

Take it off, Mark.

1:24:44

And finally, the Nicki Glazer podcast, which I'm

1:24:46

I think about to do with you.

1:24:47

Yes, I'm so excited.

1:24:48

Awesome, And that wraps up our

1:24:51

week of shows here at Radio Road.

1:24:52

Next time you hear from us.

1:24:53

It will be the flagship program super Bowl

1:24:55

fifty eight.

1:24:57

Check it out.

1:24:58

I mean, if you listen to these shows, you're gonna listen to

1:25:00

that one. But so I don't even sell it, you

1:25:03

know, listen. Thank you everybody,

1:25:05

Thank you, all our guests, Thank everybody behind

1:25:07

the scenes.

1:25:09

Eric, thank you, Buddy. Great.

1:25:12

We had four old fashions with Eric and even

1:25:14

guilted Rosenthal into one, so

1:25:17

that was a big, big development.

1:25:18

Also highlight of the week, guys, Highlight of the week.

1:25:20

All right, love everybody, Thanks everybody,

1:25:23

till Sunday.

1:25:24

Heat the Call.