0:02

McKinnon has hit up running back first down and goal

0:04

to go play action.

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Fake right touchdown

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Jacksau City a Cole

0:11

Hartman, A Cole Hartman with

0:13

the Cats on the right side,

0:17

a free yard touchdown passing overtime.

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Kansas City wins the game twenty

0:23

five, twenty two.

0:26

And the Chiefs Kingdom has started

0:29

its own history class because

0:32

for the first time in six

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thousand, nine hundred and

0:36

forty four days, there is a

0:39

back to back Super Bowl

0:41

champion and it is the

0:43

Kansas City Chiefs, champions

0:47

of Super Bowl fifty eight. On the

0:49

heels of Super Bowl fifty

0:51

seven, the Chiefs win in

0:53

overtime.

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Mitch holt Is with the call Chiefs

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Radio Network. They

1:02

done it again, the Kansas

1:04

City Chiefs. Patrick

1:06

Mahomes to Mi Cole Hardman three

1:09

yard touch Yes me, Cole Hardman three yard

1:11

touchdown pass with three seconds left in

1:13

overtime. Chiefs rally

1:15

past the Niners twenty five

1:17

to twenty two in Super

1:19

Bowl fifty eight. They are the

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first repeat champion in

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nineteen years and I have a

1:26

chance to be the first team ever next

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season to three peat. Dan

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hanss here with Greg rosen Fall

1:34

Mark Sessler, we are Heroes

1:36

Bowl.

1:37

The backdrop we are in the.

1:39

End zone, coming right behind the end

1:41

zone where Patrick Mahomes hit Hardman

1:43

to win the Super Bowl in another Super Bowl,

1:45

MVP boys, And what

1:48

a treat overtime.

1:50

For so much of this game, we're

1:52

talking to you other being like, no, this's kind

1:54

of a boring Super Bowl.

1:56

Let's pick it up here.

1:57

Yeah.

1:57

And once that fourth quarter started,

2:00

really the end.

2:01

Of the third, once the Chiefs got that

2:03

touchdown, it was an all time classic. And I just

2:06

think of how this season played out for the Chiefs

2:08

and how his teammates and their

2:11

struggles in a sense made him

2:13

have to be a game manager. And

2:15

this was the conversation with Purty all season,

2:17

like game changer, game manager. And

2:20

what I saw tonight out of Mahomes was

2:22

what I've seen out of the best quarterbacks in the history

2:24

of the game, which is that he did everything

2:26

that needed to be done in the moment that needed

2:29

it to be done.

2:30

And it wasn't flashy plays.

2:32

It was the right decisions on

2:34

the last drive of regulation, it

2:36

was obviously the right decisions of when to run

2:39

in overtime, and him just being calm,

2:41

being patient when he needed to being aggressive

2:44

when he needed to and just always

2:46

doing the right thing, because that's what great quarterbacks

2:48

do.

2:49

It was almost like a microcosm

2:51

of their season because the Chiefs in the

2:53

first half stuck in mud, three

2:56

punts, a big fumble

2:58

that caused the mystomic a big problem, and they get

3:00

out of there with a field goal, and you're lucky

3:02

at that point to be down ten to three at

3:04

the half, and then over their final

3:06

four possessions, the Chiefs scored nineteen

3:09

points and it's sort of the way they close their

3:11

season in the playoffs. And I feel like it was just a year ago

3:13

that we were in Arizona and I was thinking

3:15

to myself and saying on our Super Bowl

3:17

recap show that there's this inevitable nature

3:20

to Patrick Mahomes and to the Chiefs in

3:22

general, and it's like it happened again. And I

3:24

can't help but flip the script and think of, like, my

3:27

gosh, it happened again to Kyle Shanahan. It's

3:29

the second time that the Niners had a ten point

3:31

lead on Mahomes. It's the fourth Super Bowl

3:33

the Mahomes faced a ten point deficit.

3:35

He's won three of them. He did it again tonight.

3:37

So there is this inevitable sense that the Chiefs

3:39

will always find a way.

3:41

And I know where you're coming

3:43

from, Greg when you call him the game manager, But I

3:45

find it disrespectful because he's

3:47

a game general. Nay, he's a game

3:49

commander. He is someone

3:52

that can do everything. If you need him

3:54

to be smart with the football, nobody's better.

3:56

If you need him to take risks and be a

3:58

downfield gunslinger, he's

4:00

done that much.

4:02

Decision maker. And you're

4:04

trying to.

4:05

And I respect where you're coming You're trying to change a

4:07

stigma a little bit, o Mander. But

4:10

what Mahomes did again and

4:12

seeing him, they ran

4:14

it, by the way, the.

4:15

Same Andy Reid, that son of a gun.

4:17

They run the same play

4:20

that they ran to get the big touchdown

4:22

to Tony in last year's Super Bowl, but

4:24

substituting Tony a healthy scratch in this

4:26

game with me Cole Harbman, a guy that

4:28

they said bye bye to who goes

4:30

to the Jets, bombs out. They move

4:33

him and he lands with kse and

4:36

then makes the you know, one of the biggest catches

4:38

in Super Bowl history. It's an amazing

4:41

story and to see it right in front of us. It's a

4:43

reminder again how lucky we are. And

4:45

also to see him running Mahomes

4:48

through the back of the end zone and then up the far sideline

4:52

and just the first thing that came to my mind is this

4:55

is this is the guy I think when you look

4:57

at what he's done now in seven years. And

4:59

he said in the week radio

5:01

row that this was such a huge

5:04

moment for Mahomes

5:06

and reed for them now to both get another

5:09

title, it's unreal. And he's

5:11

absolutely in the conversation greatest of all

5:13

time.

5:13

I think he's twenty eight years old by kickoff

5:15

next year.

5:16

Yeah, And I mean he.

5:16

Had that incredible twenty two yard run that called

5:18

back the run he had against the Eagles a year ago

5:21

and the wide open Mikol

5:23

Hartman touchdown this season. MGS

5:26

noted that he had eight more

5:28

touchdowns to wide open wide receivers

5:30

than.

5:31

Anyone in the game. Like it's like they are scheming

5:33

them up perfectly.

5:34

It won them the Super Bowl a year ago, it happened

5:36

again today and I'm with you.

5:38

I just look at this team and.

5:39

It's like the way at the half Travis

5:42

Kelsey had one catch for one yard and

5:44

we were talking about the fact that he, you know, marched

5:46

up to Andy Reid with vitriol and

5:48

anger and shoved his coach. It's like that seemed

5:50

like it could have become the story of the game if they

5:52

continue to melt instead, that feels like fourteen

5:54

years ago at this point, right.

5:55

The second half starts with then throwing

5:58

a pitch to Pachecko and they take a two yard

6:00

loss on a fumble, and then Mahomes throws

6:02

one of the worst passes of his career for an interception.

6:05

And the Chiefs defense was such a big part of this.

6:07

We'll get to them, but the two turnovers

6:10

that the Chiefs had, the

6:12

Chiefs defense then steps up with a

6:14

three and out immediately and doesn't make it

6:16

count. But while we're kind of just talking

6:18

Mahomes in the game management like

6:21

it does feel inevitable

6:24

that this all happened, and yet there were so many

6:26

little parts of the game. And when I'm thinking of

6:28

that last drive, he gets the ball back in

6:30

regulation needing three points

6:33

one fifty three to go, and they

6:35

got the ball to the forty

6:37

nine ers forty three in no time

6:39

at all, in less than a minute, And that

6:41

was where he was being patient. He was taking

6:44

nine yards, three yards, twelve

6:46

yards, eight yards, so he wasn't going for these chunk plays.

6:48

He's taking what's there. But they did it very quickly.

6:50

They got out of bounds, they didn't use their timeouts

6:53

there. Then you get into overtime.

6:56

A couple of different spots there, the

6:58

third and sixth, the or she Rice. That was a really

7:00

nice catch where Mahomes is under pressure.

7:02

That was not like a given if if they

7:04

don't get that, you're at fourth and six with the season

7:07

on the line. You have a fourth and one, you need

7:09

one yard and the and the game stops

7:11

and we're like, what's Sandy Reid gonna do in this spot?

7:14

He goes back to that Reid option.

7:15

I think it was Chase Young that they took advantage

7:18

cutting inside the third and one. He knows

7:20

exactly when to scramble, like

7:22

just every decision, even the Kelsey catch

7:25

at the end of regulation that set up the

7:27

chip shot at that point. If they did not pick up

7:29

that first down, that's a fifty yard field

7:31

goal for Bucker just to keep the game alive

7:33

with some time there. And each time it's

7:35

like those were the passes that are exactly

7:38

on the money.

7:38

That's why he is. He's the best player I've ever seen.

7:41

Next Gen Stats had an incredible stat on that Kelsey

7:44

reception, that catch and run that he

7:46

reached something about I think nineteen point eight

7:48

miles per hour as as fastest he had run on a

7:50

catch since twenty eighteen. And

7:52

that's that is adrenaline.

7:54

That's super Bowl. That's just that,

7:57

you know, it's just a different world.

7:59

And the fact that Mahomes, you

8:01

know, when you talk about who's and we don't want

8:03

to overlook Tom Brady and that, and I'm sure they're Patriots

8:06

fans yelling is they're listening, like shut up

8:08

about Mahomes being the best ever because Brady

8:10

won seven and Brady had massive moments

8:12

like this too, and that's true. So I really

8:14

don't want to have that conversation, but I just want

8:16

to point out that for Mahomes,

8:20

the way he's so calm and collected

8:22

in these spots, as Brady was, as

8:24

Joe Montana was, that always

8:27

sticks with me watching these games.

8:28

There's not a moment of panic.

8:30

Here is Patrick Mahomes

8:33

on CBS after the game talking about

8:35

where the Niners now are in history, and

8:37

by the way, Patrick Mahomes seven and zero

8:40

in the playoffs over the last two years with two

8:42

titles and fifteen and three

8:45

in his remarkable career seven seasons

8:47

in.

8:48

So is it a dynasty now, Yeah,

8:50

it's a start of one. We're not done.

8:52

I know we're gonna celebrate tonight, celebrate

8:55

the pride Winnsday, Kansas City.

8:57

We're not done.

8:57

Who got a young team. We'll keep this thing going.

9:00

I'd also say that Mahomes has won these

9:02

Super Bowls where it's not the same star

9:04

studded lineup in each of these victories.

9:06

It's different types of teams.

9:07

And I think you're right to call him a game manager

9:10

in a positive sense and that he had

9:12

to be a different type of quarterback with

9:14

different players around in this season. It's like their

9:17

defense I think saved them in the first

9:19

half. Absolutely, I got them out of trouble.

9:21

But it's like, look at who he's surrounded. If you were to

9:23

pair of these two teams and you were to put

9:25

an offensive lineup of like the All Star team,

9:28

it's like it's heavily favoring the Niners

9:30

and it's not favoring the Chiefs, and it doesn't really

9:32

matter because Patrick Mahomes doesn't really care who's on

9:34

the.

9:34

Team, right, And there's that one great throw

9:36

he had to Hardman, which we had a great view.

9:38

We watched this game in two different spots.

9:40

We were in the auxiliary press box, which is basically

9:42

up in the third deck for the

9:44

first two and a half quarters of.

9:46

The game, ash together.

9:47

Right, and that throw from that angle,

9:49

actually it was absolutely perfect to see

9:52

that gorgeous. He had no business throwing that ball

9:54

because Hardman's bracketed both sides.

9:56

But it's such an impossible throw and Hardwin

9:58

makes a different play. But other

10:01

than that, you don't think of like incredible

10:03

athleticism in the way that we did in

10:06

twenty eighteen, in his first season

10:08

as a starter twenty nineteen when he won the

10:10

Super Bowl for the first time. And that's why

10:12

you think Mahomes is thinking, yeah,

10:14

we're just getting started. Because this skill

10:16

set where he's winning up here,

10:19

along with that incredible arm he

10:21

has, is gonna age well are you doing it?

10:23

What? Hey? He's reaching the point in his career.

10:26

But in the mental side that is actually is catching

10:28

up with the physical.

10:29

That is it Brady's accomplished

10:31

the most ever, no one in the history of the NFL's

10:34

had a first seven seasons of their

10:36

career like Patrick Wilmes.

10:37

It's not even close. It's not an argument.

10:39

It's the best start to a season

10:41

any players ever had seen.

10:43

This could we don't know, You never know. This could

10:45

be the last time he's ever on the stage. That weird

10:47

things have happened.

10:48

But that's why I think Adam bob lands

10:50

on the United States, I'm just saying.

10:52

As Dan Marino in nineteen eighty four, what he would

10:54

have thought many But

10:56

that's.

10:56

Like the difference between Dan Marino's career, who

10:59

was thought to be the best in certain a certain light,

11:01

and what Patrick Mahomes has done is like completely

11:03

unprecedented.

11:04

I it's remarkable.

11:05

And he finished thirty four of

11:07

forty six, three hundred and thirty three yards

11:10

average, seven point two yards per attempt, two touchdowns,

11:13

that one ugly pick pass rating

11:15

ninety nine point three.

11:16

And you know, I got to give credit to.

11:20

His receivers because they

11:22

didn't build the best skill

11:25

goop around him this year. We know that even throughout

11:27

the playoffs and even through certainly half of this game,

11:30

it was apparent that they're

11:32

still missing Tyreek Hill or someone

11:34

that can really make things easier for Patrick Mahomes,

11:37

which makes his achievements even greater.

11:39

But I look down at you have Kelsey, even though he's

11:41

one for one at the half, he finishes nine

11:43

for ninety three on ten targets.

11:45

But then he pretty much spreads it out.

11:47

Three catches for Hardman, three for Justin Watson,

11:50

six for thirty nine for Rashi Rice.

11:52

But Chaigo has six.

11:53

For thirty three, No great two for twenty two

11:56

mvs. Three catches Jared McKinnon

11:58

two remember a drop.

12:01

Yes, and exactly Watson

12:03

had one where the ball was a little behind him.

12:05

I remember that.

12:08

Under so undercard these guys.

12:10

There's a certain ceiling with many of these guys, and maybe

12:12

even with Kelsey at this point in his career.

12:14

But uh, they maxed.

12:16

Out what they were able to do, and I think you have

12:18

to give them credit as well, because it's not just Mahomes

12:21

like that. The Rashi Rice catcher yet

12:23

overtime is a perfect example. Was it overtime or

12:25

the end of the fourth quarter that was overtime? You

12:27

know that ball could have went through

12:29

his hands, it was up there, you know, like that is

12:32

these and the pressures at the highest levels,

12:34

and these guys made the catches and got it done. So

12:36

a great, great performance by the

12:39

offense after a slow start, and the defense

12:41

did what the defense did all year

12:43

long.

12:43

And a couple of plays before that Nicole Hartman

12:46

game winner, there was the Kelsey

12:48

catch right up the gut of the field where

12:50

it looked like he had one or two yards and he just barreled

12:52

and created a pile and went right down to the

12:54

goal line.

12:55

Almost. It's like Kelsey is

12:57

part of this too. It's like his.

12:58

Fastest run time comes and this game after

13:00

we were saying he lost a step all year long. It's

13:02

like everything that we were complaining about and feeling

13:05

nagged about with the Chiefs just vanished in the last

13:07

month right then.

13:08

And that's what the great teams do.

13:09

YEA that extra year he had, he had a

13:11

couple of crucial third doctor version so

13:14

did Rice. I was annoyed though, that that Kelsey

13:17

play in the red zone where they.

13:18

Almost you know, won the Super Bowl there. I

13:21

had the phone up, We're just we're got a great

13:23

spot. This is a game.

13:24

This is the game day morning spot that that

13:26

they taped that during the show, and I had my phone

13:28

up for that play and I was

13:30

like, Oh, this is gonna be amazing. Kelsey's gonna win

13:32

the super Bowl. That didn't happen. Then forgot to have it

13:34

up for the Mkole Hardman Super

13:37

Bowl winning.

13:38

I'll send it to that just to

13:40

correct you.

13:41

It's the around the NFL set where Game Day Morning

13:43

filmed earlier today.

13:44

Well, that's a great point. In fact, there's the back

13:46

of my chair. There's a piece of tape that says Rich on it.

13:48

If we could get Dan put over the

13:50

Rich tape, I would appreciate that.

13:52

Eric h over there in the

13:54

corner.

13:54

So you mentioned Spagnolo them

13:56

doing it like they did it all

13:58

season, and I think

14:01

of a couple plays in

14:03

this game for Spagnolo

14:05

to do what he did all season. Two

14:08

monster third downs. It's

14:11

a two minute warning in regulation.

14:13

It's it's almost easy to forget

14:15

now. It feels a long time ago. The score

14:18

is sixteen to sixteen. It's third

14:20

and four. The forty nine ers have the ball.

14:23

If the forty nine ers get four yards

14:25

on that play, they win

14:27

the Super Bowl.

14:28

Very likely.

14:29

I mean, the Chiefs could have used all their timeouts and

14:31

they could have gotten no yards. You could

14:33

maybe it doesn't happen, but basically it's

14:35

third and four. You get just four yards, you don't

14:37

need a touchdown on the play, and you win the Super

14:40

Bowl. Spag sends pressure there.

14:42

It's Trent McDuffie. He gets in clean.

14:44

It felt like Trent mcduffee was blitzing this whole

14:47

game. They blitz more than fifty percent of the time.

14:49

He gets out there right away.

14:51

Perty really has no chance on

14:53

that play. Great job. Then in

14:56

overtime Perdy makes a

14:58

couple great plays on that drive.

15:00

Nice throws, had like a hesitation.

15:01

Where he got Krloftus on him, got him to

15:04

down to the fifteen.

15:05

I thought Perty was fining this game. He played well.

15:07

Third and four again season

15:09

on the line, can you stop them from getting a touchdown?

15:12

Chris Jones gets in totally clean.

15:15

They sent the house all game. And who

15:17

is that on? Is it on the forty nine

15:19

ers coaches? Is it on Purty?

15:22

Is it on the offensive line like or

15:25

is it just giving Spagnol the credit

15:27

for winning in big spots. I'm

15:30

not smart enough to really know, but I do know

15:32

Spagnola won in those spots. Perty

15:35

had a wide open receiver on that play that he had no

15:37

chance to get it to because the pressure was on him

15:39

right away.

15:40

And that's that wins the super Bowl. That's the

15:42

different sphere.

15:43

There were a couple of huge plays like that, and they had eleven

15:45

hurries and a bunch of those came

15:47

from defensive backs.

15:48

And we've been seeing that from from Spags all

15:50

year long.

15:51

And I don't know if it went on like we had Colleen wolf

15:53

done on the field the first person she interviewed

15:55

with Spags and it's like, by the way, this is like I'm

15:57

not calling it like you know, a Ryan

16:00

moment with Ditka, but it's like he is what he

16:02

is the reason they got here just as much now.

16:04

And that's it still scratch scratch my head.

16:06

Why no one even snipped around him as a head coach

16:08

when you talk about and we can talk on this at the end of the show,

16:12

all right, well Bill Belichick doesn't have a job

16:14

either. When we talk

16:16

about some legacy stuff, uh,

16:18

and what the Chiefs can do going forward, we'll

16:20

get to that because Spags is coming back as

16:22

is read as.

16:23

His mahomes as is as is Kelsey.

16:25

Some stats about this Chiefs defense and

16:27

then we'll take a break and we'll do a little talk from the Niner

16:30

side of things. Brock Purdy completed

16:33

twelve is nineteen attempts against

16:35

the blitz for one thirty one in a touchdown.

16:37

He got sacked once.

16:38

The Chiefs defense blitz as you said, Greg

16:40

on fifty one point two percent of

16:43

dropbacks, their fourth highest rate in a game

16:45

under spags.

16:46

So they turned up the heat

16:48

in a big way in this game.

16:50

And one more stat from next Gen, the

16:55

Chiefs defense generated a season high

16:57

nine unblocked pressures and Super

16:59

Bowl fifty eight, all which came on blitzes.

17:02

So obviously the game plan was

17:04

to get after party, and I thought it was notable

17:07

late in the game a couple times when Specks held back

17:09

the Dogs, that led to some

17:11

things that were fortuitous for San Francisco.

17:13

Third in twelve in overtime, you're right, hold

17:15

it, he didn't send it and that helped lead

17:17

the forty nine ers. That those numbers they

17:20

sound decent from perty he avoided

17:22

mistakes.

17:23

I think he played well enough to win. I saw take

17:25

afterwards.

17:26

It was like Shanahan needs a better

17:28

quarterback to get over the hump up like this is not the game

17:30

for it. They know they had this game, not that

17:33

their offense played great, But to

17:35

me, that was more about the coaching. Maybe when Perty's in

17:38

his eighth year, he'll be able to fix protections in

17:40

a way that he can. Now it's hard to say, but

17:42

that's a four point five yards per attempt on

17:44

those throws plus the sack. That is

17:46

an extremely low number for a guy who set

17:48

the NFL record for yards per attempt

17:51

the season.

17:51

All right, let's take a break and when

17:54

we return, yes, we'll continue

17:56

to churn through and dig through.

17:58

Super Bowl fifty eight.

18:00

I look back on the field behind us, and there's

18:02

still I don't know, I'm gonna say about five hundred

18:04

people littered on the field, confetti

18:07

everywhere, but it's starting.

18:08

To die down. The tailor swift out there.

18:10

Wait, is that Chris Berman literally

18:12

live on television on a

18:14

set like fifty yards away from us,

18:17

maybe even less than that. That's how close we are

18:19

to being Chris

18:21

Berman. For you to really be in the next Chris Berman,

18:23

that's the goal on every way I want to be Chris

18:25

Berman. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right

18:28

back.

18:30

Check it in ten nine Yers up three nine. Perdy

18:33

gonna throw a double pass back to Juwan Jennings.

18:35

He'll throw it back across the field of McCaffrey.

18:38

He's got it.

18:38

Twenty ten five touchdown,

18:45

San Fan sits

18:47

go.

18:48

C mc enter the Dragon

18:51

Baby six points on

18:53

a trick play.

18:54

By the way, it's time for the Sunday Drive

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Highlander oh Man.

19:00

Better times for the forty nine ers on Super

19:02

Bowl Sunday, Christian McCaffrey.

19:05

The twenty one yard pass from Juwan Jennings, who

19:07

was he was shaping up as a potential

19:09

Super Bowl MVP for a bit in this

19:11

game. It didn't work out, obviously, that was

19:13

the call from Greg

19:15

Popa and.

19:19

Tim Ryan of KNBR.

19:22

That play put the Niners up

19:24

ten to nothing in this game, and as Mark

19:27

pointed out, that is a

19:30

double digit lead that the Niners

19:33

and Kyle Shanahan in his career. It's

19:35

haunting and it's another haunting loss for

19:38

the forty nine Ers, Another gut

19:40

punch loss for the forty nine

19:42

ers, who did a lot of things right in this game,

19:45

but once again, when it

19:47

was time to close the game out,

19:49

when it was time to

19:52

kind of stump, like put your foot

19:54

on the throat of the Chiefs. They kept on letting

19:56

them off the hook. They let them hang around, and

19:58

eventually it got them.

19:59

Beat they did.

20:00

And it's gotta be gut

20:03

wrenching for Niners fans to process this

20:05

because it's a team that went three for twelve on third

20:07

down and it really showed. I thought that they just

20:09

didn't make enough of their opportunities to

20:11

go into halftime up just ten to three.

20:14

It should have been more.

20:14

And like we were up there, you know, when we were higher up

20:17

in the stadium thinking there were multiple times

20:19

where you could have slashed the neck of the Chiefs

20:21

and they just could not do it.

20:23

And it's their defense, though.

20:25

After this, after a couple of weeks of like the defense

20:27

being the focal point and the problem played

20:29

a great game early on, they really did. And it's

20:31

the offense I thought that came out and you mentioned

20:33

is it coaching?

20:34

What was it?

20:34

Because it's not just on brock party, but they come

20:36

out of the of the second half of halftime

20:39

with three fizzle out punts

20:41

and it's like that's where in that intermittent

20:44

time the Chiefs started warming up, and

20:46

I want to point to one moment too late

20:49

in the game where it's it

20:51

was actually in overtime. I want

20:53

to ask your opinion because it's that third

20:56

and four play where Party is

20:58

pressured on his pass and it's incomplete. It's

21:00

a Chris Jones pressure that I think absolutely

21:02

sets up a Shanahan moment for

21:04

the Ages.

21:05

Let's listen to the call.

21:07

McCaffrey comes to your notion.

21:09

They fake the jettahem Perty throws it hot

21:11

and Throver throws his receiver incomplete.

21:15

The same time rush Chris Jones.

21:17

Jennings was the intended receiver, but Party had

21:19

to just get rid of the football.

21:21

And now what does San Francisco? Dude,

21:23

this is interesting.

21:24

At fourth and four, so

21:27

you know, Chris Jones team highs six pressures

21:29

on the game.

21:30

A game changer right there. I mean, that's

21:32

today's NFL.

21:33

It's then fourth and four on the KC

21:35

nine and they kick the field goal, which is a very Shanahan

21:38

leverpole right there, and pardon me, was

21:40

like, wait a minute, you could leave the Chiefs on

21:42

their nine yard line if you go for it and you don't get it.

21:44

But do you not just go for it and

21:47

sink a knife into the Chief's heart right here.

21:50

And instead they go for the field goal, and there's you

21:52

know, there's plenty of time left for

21:54

the Chiefs to come back at that point.

21:56

Right that's ot And it

21:59

really brings up this idea

22:01

that I think in the analytical

22:04

community community would be the

22:07

rule book, which would be you would defer in overtime,

22:10

and that's so that you kind of know what the

22:12

other team does because the playoff

22:15

overtime rules are different than regulation. Each

22:17

team is guaranteed to possession even if you

22:19

give up a touchdown, and so in

22:21

that spot, you'd almost love to know if you

22:24

needed a touchdown or not. Now he could

22:26

have been bold and just gone

22:28

for it. I'm with you, because what are the odds we're gonna,

22:30

you know, stop the Chiefs anyways, we need touchdowns.

22:33

And one of the reasons they were in this game is

22:35

because Kyle Shanahan did a very

22:37

un Kyle Shanahan move and he

22:39

did go for it on fourth and three down

22:42

three points.

22:43

My mind, and I know we're living in a Dan

22:45

Campbell world. Now, this is supposed to always

22:47

be oh well, the bot says, you

22:49

go for it, but it takes a serious

22:52

amount of onions.

22:53

I got to give the c I thought it was the wrong move.

22:55

But they have a fourth and three at

22:57

the Kansas City fifteen with well

23:00

forty six to play. They're losing by

23:02

three points in the in the Super Bowl, and

23:04

they go for it and they throw up their most

23:07

the play that they treasure most,

23:09

and it's the safest play in their mind, the play

23:11

that will absolutely get it done. And it

23:14

was Brock Purdy, the George Kittle who is quiet

23:16

this game and exit in overtime with a

23:18

shoulder issue for four yards. They pick it up.

23:20

That sets up the Juwan Jennings

23:22

touchdown. Let's listen to that touchdown by Jennings.

23:26

Perdy and a shotgun.

23:27

McCaffrey laughed Jennings, outside of you're

23:30

right, use check and Kittle or chit

23:32

left? Purdy back Berdy Troll said,

23:34

is cocked by Jawan Jennings breaks a tackle,

23:37

touchdown, said

23:43

Trien says, go the

23:46

savior.

23:47

Juwan Jennings save dark

23:49

firsts tight man coverage

23:52

and Jawan is able to shake loose to that

23:54

first tackle.

23:56

Red ignite and then punch it into.

23:58

The end zone.

23:59

And that that was one Mark one of the multiple

24:02

chances, both early in the game where it was like

24:04

you could have really jumped out to a dominating

24:06

type lead, or late in the game where

24:09

it's kind of in your hands now, And in

24:11

that case, you're now winning because you took

24:14

the chance and you're rewarded with the touchdown,

24:16

you're winning. In the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, it's closed

24:18

out time and yet time and time again,

24:21

and the San Francisco forarding on his history in

24:23

the last fifteen years, they just can't find

24:25

a way.

24:25

Well.

24:26

And you know, we were in the end zone for this, and I recorded

24:28

that Jennings touchdown, thinking now, that's an interesting

24:30

moment to have on tape, But then I

24:33

press pause and stop recording and the pat

24:36

is blocked. Yes, that makes it sixteen thirteen

24:38

when it would have been You know that, then you're forcing.

24:40

The Chiefs to go score a touchdown at that point, and I don't

24:42

want to get on Moody because Moody also for

24:44

a brief time for about an hour and a half,

24:47

had the all time record for longest field

24:49

goal before Harrison Bucker bested

24:52

him. But missing the pat

24:54

getting blocked there Immediately you're

24:56

thinking, how does that happen, and it wasn't like

24:58

a breakdown in the blocking.

24:59

It was a low kick Pat has to go

25:01

higher.

25:01

So that's Moody who if you listen to this show

25:04

under the Radar X

25:07

factors was the kicking game and how that would

25:09

potentially play out, that'd be instead

25:11

of being a four point game, being a three point game really

25:13

set the table in a lot of ways for everything

25:15

that happened after and San Francisco mistakes.

25:19

And Niners fans know it.

25:21

It was really as someone again, it's

25:23

always bittersweet going to these Super Bowls because I always

25:25

think about what it would be like if my team

25:28

was ever here, and how stressful I had

25:30

this not in my stomachs being ten

25:32

feet away from a largely forty

25:34

nine Ers contingent, And you could say,

25:36

people say, oh, the forty nine Ers fans, they've they've

25:38

had so much to celebrate and they

25:41

have had a lot of success, but we're going on

25:43

over a quarter century since they won a Super

25:45

Bowl.

25:45

You're like a thirty five year old.

25:47

What I mean.

25:49

Everyone in this section in front of me, for the most part,

25:51

looked like guys and women that were in their thirties,

25:54

twenties forties and so to

25:56

not be able to get

25:59

it done again. And when you think

26:01

about again, block Pat a

26:03

muff punt that sets up the first Kansas City

26:05

touchdown on a game where before

26:08

that happened, it wasn't clear that the Chiefs

26:10

were ever gonna score a touchdown because they looked

26:12

a lot like the Christmas Chiefs, like

26:14

the December Chiefs on offense until

26:16

they got set up on a short field and that kind of kicked

26:19

them into high gear. And then Greg

26:21

zero points off to Kansas City

26:24

turnovers. So there were so many

26:26

opportunities and they just let

26:29

these opportunities go to waste. And when you do

26:31

that against Mahomes it may sound like a

26:33

cliche, but you just know you're asking

26:35

for it.

26:36

You can break

26:38

down this game in so many different ways to fit whatever

26:40

narrative that you want to have. Like

26:43

the forty nine Ers defense in the

26:45

end couldn't get it done. They couldn't get

26:47

a stop to win the Super Bowl, but

26:50

the first nine possessions of the game

26:52

for the Chiefs resulted in six points.

26:56

Nine possessions is sometimes the whole game.

26:58

Like if your defense plays well enough to give up

27:00

six points and nine possessions and you're

27:02

the forty nine ers and then granted the town against

27:05

the Chiefs usually, but that is often a twenty

27:07

three to six win and the game's already over,

27:10

and so you fault the offense certainly

27:13

for not taking advantage more during

27:16

that stretch of the game. But I don't want to hear

27:18

anyone actually kind of come after

27:21

the offense and purty for not coming

27:23

up big enough in the biggest moment, because the reality

27:25

is they got the ball in the fourth quarter trailing

27:29

and they went and scored a touchdown with

27:31

a fourth down conversion. Then they got

27:33

the ball back again in a tie game in

27:35

the fourth quarter in the Super Bowl with five

27:37

forty six to go, and you're thinking, oh,

27:39

this is legacy drive, this is brock Perdy,

27:41

can you do it? He had a couple very nice plays

27:44

on that drive. You obviously would have loved

27:46

to pick up that third down I talked about earlier,

27:48

and the drive stalls, but you did get a field goal

27:50

to take the lead in the Super Bowl in

27:52

the fourth quarter when he absolutely needs you get the

27:54

ball in overtime. It's the same thing again. I thought

27:57

that was gonna be the CMC drive. CMC

28:00

ends this game with one hundred and sixty

28:02

yards and a touchdown on thirty

28:05

touches, and that shows his value. And yet

28:08

in terms of running the ball, they

28:10

didn't really get into a great rhythm

28:12

the whole game until that drive. And

28:14

it's sometimes these little plays. He

28:17

had a second and four in the reds, you

28:19

know, inside the ten, and I think it was

28:21

Trevelle Wharton and Mike Panell like

28:23

their deep backup stop them there,

28:25

and they they at that point they decide to

28:27

throw it on the next play. It's like if he kept rolling

28:29

there, if they block a little better there, they get a third

28:32

and one, or they keep running. I thought in overtime

28:34

he was just going to run the ball down the field, which is CMC.

28:36

We've seen in them have those drives and they and

28:38

they just come up a play shorts. It's hard to kill any

28:41

one particular part of the team.

28:42

I don't think the offense played well enough though San

28:45

Francisco ultimately we.

28:46

In the final four quarters.

28:47

I mean when you look at when you look at this game,

28:50

you kept on waiting, where was that big chunk

28:53

play, Where was the where was the huge

28:55

au play, The huge Deebo play

28:57

Kittle?

28:58

Where was Kittle? Most of this game?

28:59

CMC was workmanlike, and I

29:01

had a lot of respect for him because by the end of that game, you could

29:04

tell he was hurting because he's getting

29:06

thirty touches in the Super Bowl at the end of a

29:08

long season.

29:08

These two teams look so tired in person.

29:12

I kept on waiting for McCaffrey even on that

29:15

last drive, and they could have won the Super Bowl potentially, although

29:18

case he's going to get a chance to get the balls, the overtime

29:20

rules are different, which is stupid to me. Why can't

29:22

the uniform McCaffrey could never

29:24

make that one extra guy miss to go

29:26

fifty yards, and the explosive

29:28

nature to their offense was missing. And I

29:30

think Party plays a role in that too, that he didn't

29:33

hit on a couple of throws as well, and they

29:35

were just missing that little extra special

29:37

something that a Kyle Shanahan play

29:39

caller with that amount of talent, we're

29:42

just missing that special play.

29:43

I think they ran into a defensive scheme

29:45

that that figured out how to put

29:47

pressure on Party, how to make things difficult, take

29:49

those big plays away, and you know on that overtime

29:52

drive where they go up at the field goal when we've kind of

29:54

broken down the end of that remember outstarted

29:56

and it was like it was very quickly suddenly

29:59

they were at third and five and

30:01

Purty throws a wobbly incomplete

30:03

pass, but then defensive holding reopens

30:06

the door. I mean, it's like it wasn't a bad

30:08

call necessarily, it's not that. It's just that like that

30:11

one mistake by the Chiefs. Otherwise this game

30:13

could have been over about fifteen to twenty

30:15

minutes earlier.

30:16

To your point, Dan on not

30:18

getting the big plays, I uked six

30:20

targets only forty nine yards long

30:23

of twenty debo eleven

30:26

targets, and man, I wouldn't have guessed

30:28

this watching it live. I wasn't box score

30:30

tracking that closely. Thirty

30:32

three yards on three catches

30:35

long of twelve was not healthy.

30:37

In the second half of the game at a hamstret.

30:39

The most open guys in the game were a couple big

30:41

plays by Conley and McCleod. Actually, so those

30:43

are their two star wide receivers, and then Kittle

30:45

ends up with four yards on three

30:48

targets. It is hard to win that way,

30:50

and they had some next gen stats here during

30:52

the game, and it was really interesting howse.

30:54

Shout out Bill Smith the next gen stat.

30:55

Absolutely getting it done.

30:57

The average tested

31:00

catches in terms of like the percentage of

31:03

throws that were into tight windows, the Chiefs

31:05

actually had far more throws that

31:07

were into wide open receivers than

31:09

the forty nine Ers, we who had very few

31:11

throws that were open, which

31:13

is not what you think.

31:14

And again that's a credit to the Chiefs defense.

31:16

And like there was this one, you know, mysterious

31:18

injury in the middle of the game where you were early on

31:20

where you lose Drake Drake Greenlaw, Like as

31:22

he's coming out into the field, he tears his achilles.

31:25

All Drake green Law is what

31:27

like the forty nine Ers allowed the fewest yards

31:29

per attempt on targets over the middle third

31:32

of the field since drafting

31:34

Warner in twenty eighteen, and so that like that's green

31:37

Law as well. So it's like to lose green Law.

31:39

There was I think a secret disaster

31:41

for the Niners.

31:42

Some of those rice catches.

31:43

I think about Noah Gray catches had a couple

31:45

that's right.

31:46

Where green is and watching that and

31:48

we're way up in the auxiliary box and

31:51

have no access to television, so it's a bit

31:53

of a weird experience on

31:55

some levels when you're watching the game no internet for half

31:57

the game, no internet for half the game, and then when

31:59

you check your phone and you see Drake

32:01

Grila is just bouncing on on the balls of his

32:03

feet on the sidelight it went in to take the field.

32:05

I think it was maybe the second possession

32:07

of the game.

32:08

It was early, yeah, and he goes to plant

32:10

and the Achilles just goes which is just unbelievable,

32:13

and so you feel snake bit a little bit if you're

32:15

the Niners at this point.

32:16

Here's Kyle Shanahan, who, like.

32:18

We said, uh, just

32:20

like we talked about with Lamar, and I

32:22

know it's annoying to the Lamar army and everybody

32:24

else, but you don't get to stop talking about

32:27

the thing until you get that thing off your

32:29

back, and it's the monkey of are you a

32:31

champion?

32:31

Are you not? Here's Kyle once

32:33

again falls just short on

32:36

the loss.

32:39

I mean, we all hurt and then everyone knows

32:41

how it feels and don't

32:44

have a lot of words for it, but obviously

32:46

we're hurting, our team's hurting. But that's

32:48

how it goes when you put yourself out there.

32:50

I'm real proud of our guys for.

32:53

No regress with our team until our guys played

32:55

so hard today.

32:56

Not everything was perfect.

32:57

By no means, but I'm

32:59

gonna with a group of guys. Do

33:01

with those guys anytime, and

33:05

I'll take some time. We'll get over this and come

33:08

back next. You're ready to go.

33:10

And you can hear in his voice like

33:13

the true emotion in the in the raw like

33:15

nature of getting this far again. And it's like

33:17

even when they've bowed out in the NFC

33:20

title game, they've been brutal losses

33:22

where they've been close, and you look back and think to yourself,

33:24

you know last year was injuries, obviously,

33:26

but you know in other years it's just like a couple of

33:28

plays here or there, and this game is littered

33:31

with that sense of what could

33:33

have been had just a few moments gone

33:35

differently for the Niners.

33:36

And it's like Dan, we've now been to and you

33:39

as well, Grog, but like it predates.

33:40

You on by one by one year that like we

33:43

saw them lose and bitter fashion to the Ravens

33:45

way back when different team. Obviously, I

33:47

was there with you, You were there with me. It

33:51

was it was that's that I I.

33:53

Feel actually had West there

33:55

with a very distinct memory with Wes there

33:57

West not there.

33:59

I was with you. I

34:01

knew and I was thinking all these vivid memories from that

34:03

one.

34:04

Yes, we had great and we were you know the one we like

34:06

a couple of years ago into the Chiefs. It's like you're up by

34:08

ten late in the game and then you know they lose, and then

34:11

corona happens and you're back here and you can change everything.

34:13

If you're Shanahan, you know it's his third the

34:15

flip it were with Mahomes. It's the third time

34:18

he's been up by ten, whether it's a coordinator

34:20

or a coach.

34:20

And there you go. Here's more sound. Here's

34:23

Shanahan.

34:23

And why they decided to take the ball first, considering

34:26

the new playoff overtime rules.

34:28

It's just something we talked about with you

34:30

know that none of us have a ton of experience of it, but

34:33

we went to all the analytics and talk to those guys,

34:35

and we decided to be better. We wanted the

34:37

ball third, the both teams matched

34:39

and scored. We want to be the ones who had the chance to go

34:41

win and we got that field

34:43

goal, so we knew we had to hold him to at least to a field goal,

34:45

and if if we did, then we thought it

34:47

was in our hands.

34:48

After that.

34:50

Doesn't really answer the question.

34:52

I honestly think that

34:55

it's gonna be one of those things. And I forget

34:57

who was the team. I want to say it was the Patriots,

34:59

and then everyone just started deferring of

35:01

games. I do

35:03

think people will start to do that in playoff

35:05

overtimes, not that you're gonna have a huge sample size.

35:08

It just makes too much sense. I'm not gonna

35:10

kill Kyle Shannon, and I don't think it's the difference.

35:12

In this game.

35:13

You could have made an argument that it helps the

35:15

defense get a little bit of a rest. Certainly

35:18

that Chiefs defense looked tired on that drive. But

35:21

I do think it was an advantage for

35:23

Kansas City. Like, look, they had a

35:25

fourth and one in their own end. Does Andy Reid definitely

35:27

go for that, probably

35:30

if it's the first possession, but no, he need he

35:32

knows he needs to get a

35:35

score in that drive, and it helped him out.

35:37

All right, let's take a break and

35:39

when we get back we'll dig into more about

35:42

this game, what we saw and

35:44

what it means for these teams

35:46

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36:02

Got all a quick funny story, a

36:05

touchdown to just dude to the end the game. He looked

36:07

at me, I said, and he had no idea. Dude, we

36:09

just won the Super Bowl. He

36:12

had no idea. I was because he didn't even

36:14

celebrate at the beginning.

36:15

I'm like, what are we doing

36:19

to celebrate now?

36:20

Now?

36:21

There it is NFL Network Chris Rose

36:24

with the interview, Mahomes, Why

36:26

does this always happen?

36:27

Why?

36:27

I feel like this happens like every other year, major

36:29

sports moments in different sports and

36:31

guys achieved greatness and

36:33

don't even know like the game is over.

36:35

Why are the rules so well?

36:36

I'm also surprised that there wouldn't have been a conversation

36:38

in the huddle like we can win this right now if we

36:40

get this thing done, Like it was just that conversation

36:43

obviously, but we were watching Mikil

36:45

Harmon make the catch, and it is absolutely

36:47

true that in live action, like

36:49

his body language was like, great that I scored

36:51

a touchdown, but there's probably more to go in this

36:54

game.

36:54

And it's like, no, the game is over.

36:55

And then like suddenly everyone's running towards him. You

36:57

could see the reaction.

36:58

It was just like probably a pretty like amazing

37:01

feeling when like, bro, it's over.

37:02

We just won the Super Bowl.

37:04

And you just won. You

37:07

just caught the game winning touchdown

37:09

in the.

37:09

Super How are you processing all that? It's

37:11

like in the course of five seconds.

37:13

No matter what happens, for the rest of your life,

37:15

me, Cole Hardman, you

37:17

could be happy that you got traded back

37:20

to the Chiefs or whatever happened

37:22

for a disastrous that for the rest of your

37:24

life, you will be a game winning And by the way, spare.

37:27

Me all the mentions. It's so fun being a Jet

37:29

fan. By all the mentions, like I can't believe

37:31

you let that guy go. He is comfortably

37:34

on the teet of the greatest quarterback who's ever

37:36

lived. So good for him, Bully.

37:39

To me, Cole, I'm happy for him.

37:41

But the idea that we let a great one get away

37:44

It's great that me Cole's back with the Chiefs, because

37:46

that means he's back with Patrick Mahomes, who's allowing

37:48

to have great moments.

37:51

Wasting their time tweeting that at you

37:53

You have you ever been on Twitter?

37:54

No?

37:54

I have.

37:54

It's a terrible place, yes, that world.

37:57

I think Coole being the type of guy who didn't

37:59

know it's the end of the Super when he just won the Super Bowl.

38:01

It's like one of the reasons he

38:03

might not If.

38:03

You love that joke, how about like the four hundred

38:06

bozos that sent me the joke last Thursday?

38:08

Oh wait, so a guy almost dying on

38:10

the field, isn't his heart is coming back from

38:12

playing quarterback for the Jets.

38:14

Nice one? Another Joe Flacco burn against

38:17

the Jets? That funny you

38:19

should have won?

38:20

All right, let's see, let's see, let's do

38:22

some odds and and some

38:25

thoughts and takeaways. I'll start with I

38:27

gotta give some love to Chris Jones. I don't write the

38:30

Free Agency one o one, but maybe I'll

38:33

have some conversations.

38:34

With the editor. Maybe a little power play on Rosenthal.

38:36

Oh you just swipe

38:38

it little. We did have our own.

38:42

We're not we're not taping any shows next

38:44

week.

38:45

Uh.

38:45

The one O one is due the Wednesday

38:48

following that. So I just want you to know that.

38:49

I'm on it. I'm on it, a little little palace

38:52

intrigue.

38:52

I'm coming for the one on one, But Chris Jones

38:54

will be the number one player on that

38:57

list.

38:57

Chris Jones when it's all said and done.

38:59

Whether it's Kansas City that besigns him,

39:01

I don't know how they listen. I never try

39:03

to figure out how a salary cap works, but if you

39:05

have a five hundred million dollar quarterback, I don't

39:07

care how the contract spread out. Chris Jones,

39:10

I think is going to be the highest paid defensive player in

39:12

the history of the sport when he gets his deal right,

39:14

and if not.

39:15

He'll be very close about it.

39:17

And he showed you in this game why

39:19

he'll be worth every penny because

39:21

he was a constant menace. We

39:23

talked about the play where he might have saved the

39:26

season with his pressure of rock party.

39:29

Time and time again, he was

39:31

ruining you were watching.

39:33

One of the cool things about being at the game, you could kind of get

39:35

the All twenty two in real time, and there were

39:37

multiple plays where it felt like party if

39:39

he just had that extra beat, who was going to hit

39:41

Some of those big plays I talked about miss it were

39:43

missing, and they were missing in large part because

39:46

Chris Jones is an absolute menace to

39:48

society and just getting after in

39:50

the backfield. So I don't know what his final numbers

39:53

were. It wasn't like one of those he had

39:55

four sacks or anything. But that's why

39:57

it goes a little deeper than that. He was constantly in the backfield

40:00

and making plays.

40:00

When you look at the Chiefs playoff

40:03

wins over the last four years, in

40:05

almost all of them, Chris Jones made some

40:08

massive play on third down to

40:10

end a drive to win the game. To me, he's

40:12

like a rich man's down to high tower

40:14

who always stepped up in the absolute biggest

40:17

fight. Like he was a good player that went to

40:19

a great player in the playoffs. Chris Jones is a

40:21

great player that goes to like

40:23

a first bout Hall of Famer in the playoffs.

40:25

And that's what he'll probably end up

40:27

being now because of everything he's done.

40:29

They're in the regular season, but especially in these.

40:31

Yeah, and it's like that's one reason I as we

40:33

head into the offseason in the narrative change

40:35

and what we focus on changes.

40:37

Last September eleventh, he ended his holdout.

40:40

It's like, I, I don't know why I spent five minutes

40:42

talking about his hold There's no way he was not going to play for the

40:44

Chiefs.

40:44

I remember us being we were pretty

40:46

smart about how we handled the Chris Jones hold out.

40:48

We didn't.

40:49

We were a lot of were It's just still, you

40:51

know, it's still a conversation.

40:52

Here is a here's a stat point backing up how

40:54

dominant he was, even if it didn't register

40:57

in certain categories per Next Gen Stats.

40:59

Again, and Jones generated a team high

41:01

six pressures on thirty five pass rushes,

41:04

three of which occurred under two point five

41:06

seconds. So just Party snaps

41:08

the ball, he's not even to the back of his drop

41:10

and he's already being swarmed and you

41:13

know, almost maimed by this fearsome

41:16

player who's one of the best in the league

41:19

in all timer.

41:20

Like Andy Reid, I thought it was really

41:22

interesting that Kelsey immediately started talking

41:24

three pet after the game. It

41:26

crossed my mind, could Kelsey retire sometimes

41:28

this season he's moving slowly, he's getting up slowly,

41:30

forget that, and Reid obviously

41:32

made it clear that he's

41:35

not going to And I know numbers.

41:36

Where did Clark Hutt after the game that he was

41:39

h That was my uh, that

41:41

was one of my sandwich props.

41:42

I think, oh no, it wasn't. No, it was.

41:43

It was my hot prediction for NFL dot Com that Read

41:46

or Kelsey would retire.

41:47

It's like Bury that predictable.

41:49

Quote fully expects Andy Reid to return,

41:51

and Read's not gonna pass Belichick or

41:55

I don't know know Lombardi in terms of Super Bowl

41:57

titles, but if he

41:59

wants to co for a long time, he

42:01

can make a run at the wins. And considering

42:04

the influence he's had on

42:06

offenses in this league, I mean, he

42:08

is getting pretty high up there in the greatest

42:10

all time coaches.

42:11

I yeah, I was gonna mention him too, because

42:13

it kind of reminds me there's two

42:16

there's different versions of of Andy Reid

42:18

the same way we talk about like Tom Brady and

42:20

Bill Belichick in different eras of their career. And

42:22

it kind of reminds me of like when you were a kid and you learned

42:24

that like Abraham Lincoln lost eight elections

42:27

before and failed in business twice before

42:29

he finally won. And it's like Andy

42:32

Reid went twenty seasons

42:34

before winning a Super Bowl, and so it's

42:36

like we can. I'll flip it around and I'll look at

42:38

Kyle Shanahan and say, it's like, how do you come back

42:40

from this? And it's like Kyle Shanahan keeps

42:42

getting there and it's tough to come back, and like there's gonna

42:45

be a lot of questions about like what they do and what

42:47

happens with rock Party and all that stuff. I think he absolutely,

42:49

to me is the dug in starter. I want to hear

42:51

a lot of nonsense around that. But Andy Reid,

42:53

like you go back through some dark times with the Eagles

42:56

and was essentially like escorted out by the Eagles

42:58

in the end, goes to Kansas City and like, look

43:00

where we are now.

43:01

Well, there's all these so many

43:03

people everywhere you look. Every time you turn when

43:06

you're at Super Bowl weekend, it's somebody that you

43:08

watch on TV or been watching your whole life. South

43:10

pal Antonio of ESPN was

43:12

We shared an elevator up with him

43:15

up to the auxiliary box here

43:18

in the stadium this morning, and I told

43:20

him that I had a memory. And Sal's been covering

43:23

the NFL forever for ESPN. He covered

43:25

the Eagles, he was kind of their reporter

43:27

during their McNabb glory years.

43:30

And I remember, like a cold January,

43:33

them throwing to.

43:34

Sal when they

43:36

had lost multiple NFC title games. They're trying

43:38

to get over the hump, and he was trying to explain, you

43:40

know how important it was for Philadelphia Andy

43:42

Reid to finally get to a super Bowl, which they did

43:45

and they lost the Pats, But

43:47

that was Reid's legacy for a long

43:49

time, that he got closed but couldn't get

43:51

over the top. And now all he does is get over the

43:54

top. So you say, like he's not going

43:56

to catch Belichick. Belichick

43:58

has what six Yeah, okay,

44:01

I'm just saying he's halfway there, and he's got a

44:03

Patrick twenty seven years old.

44:06

Fair Stranger things. Stranger things have

44:08

happened, That's what That's all I'm gonna And if.

44:09

You don't know Patrick Mahlmes, maybe you do retire. I mean,

44:11

now it's like, why why stop doing

44:14

this at all?

44:15

You never know?

44:15

This is a random odds but

44:18

Ben just being live. We think

44:20

the British TikTok guy was right. We got

44:22

to do something about these kickoffs. The whole stadium

44:25

is so live, it suddenly

44:28

goes from all this noise to

44:30

like this great hush we were, you know, right before

44:32

the opening kickoff. It's so tense, and it's just like,

44:34

oh, here's a play that doesn't even count, and then

44:36

there's like forty five seconds of just looking around.

44:39

It's like such a waste of time.

44:41

Overtime is going crazy and

44:43

we're all excited, like before overtime, the forty

44:45

nine Yers fans are going wild, and then they line

44:47

up for the kickoff, and oh wait, here's a play that actually

44:49

doesn't count unless it's take a forty five second break.

44:51

It's bad. It's legit bad for the sport.

44:54

They got to eliminate the kickoff, or they got

44:56

to change back the rules to make it happen

44:58

again.

44:58

I like kick Like I just found a new campaign.

45:01

I like that. Yea, the kickoff.

45:03

You might as well not called football anymore.

45:05

You gotta have kickoffs, and you got it and talk

45:07

about you want to talk about something kind of parallel to

45:09

this, They ruin the on side kick and

45:12

I know, I know, And this is where people

45:14

like.

45:14

Tisk tisk, you don't support

45:16

player safety.

45:17

It's like, calm down, first of ball, these guys coming

45:19

at you too, Get off your soapbox. Okay, White

45:21

Night, get off your shiny horse.

45:23

I don't want to hear. It is

45:26

one thing to promote player safety and try to

45:28

figure out ways to make the game safer, but

45:30

if it comes at the expense of the product

45:32

in the obvious way it does, like the kickoff

45:35

and how it's drawing energy out of the game

45:37

and it makes the game worse, maybe there's another

45:39

way to go about it.

45:40

And I mean, I'm eliminated.

45:43

Just started the twenty five yard line. At least we'd have

45:45

a play.

45:46

Then we're all right, why don't we just make it arena football.

45:48

It's maybe some people like

45:50

visually arresting about it.

45:52

I mean, and yet like the stadium came to

45:54

a hush, and I thought that, I mean the stadium experience,

45:57

like, this is an incredible stadium and it's really well organized,

46:00

common I thought, like by halftime and I get the fans

46:02

and have a lot to cheer about, and it got really loud at

46:04

the end, but it just seemed almost not

46:06

Super Bowl like to me.

46:07

The first half the game.

46:09

Game was herky jerky early on, not

46:12

a lot of scoring, there's extra commercials

46:15

And but I felt the same way, and I thought,

46:17

and you had a DJ here, DJ

46:20

cat Eric our

46:23

restident clubhead.

46:25

It was a cascade where

46:29

I would give maybe top ten for me

46:31

personally.

46:32

Did you go out this week? And hear any

46:35

I had to.

46:35

Invite to the Gronk Beach party. Didn't make it

46:37

that but it

46:40

guys busy week.

46:41

I was head. Roberts killed

46:43

it this week. But ro I was talking to Eric.

46:45

We did a walk around the upper

46:47

deck here before the game started

46:50

and Eric was telling me about.

46:51

His club dates, which we can't get into too much detail.

46:53

Yeah, cascade, very good DJ top

46:55

ten for me, but not my style of music.

46:57

I was going and we didn't get to s though. No,

46:59

no, and that's that's a shame to know how to quote family

47:01

emergency.

47:02

Yes, which I always assume is something

47:04

others.

47:06

Like intrusive than the rams DJ.

47:08

Oh that's that's yeah.

47:09

So if I could take a note for every

47:12

five second.

47:13

I felt like there have been in recent Super Bowls

47:15

buildings that were going a little harder, but I think

47:17

the game flow had a lot to do with that, because in the

47:19

second half in overtime, the places going

47:22

off. Speaking of families

47:24

and crisis or family emergencies, how

47:27

about the families connected to those guys

47:29

that ran on the field.

47:30

How do you get onto the field in the Super Bowl in twenty

47:33

twenty.

47:33

Fe I'll tell you why, though, I think you can because

47:35

we were It's it's not like there was insane

47:38

security down here, and that he came out on the sort

47:40

of back corner end.

47:41

Okay, right, hold that note that they weren't checking

47:43

to go down to the seats.

47:44

I have more thoughts.

47:45

Here's Kevin Harlan, who has

47:47

the iconic the guy is drunk.

47:50

Yeah, so he had an opportunity. I have not heard this.

47:52

No one's heard this yet. Harlan calling

47:54

in real time two fans,

47:56

not one, but two running on the field in the second quarter

47:59

of Super Bowl fifty eight.

48:01

The ball which plot in the game

48:04

was to the thirty nine.

48:06

I love Harvey, the.

48:08

Man stopped playing with security all

48:10

over the interlopers.

48:12

Interlopers. Interlopers

48:18

is such an underrated he is a poet.

48:21

Underrated. But so here's the thing. How

48:24

much does it cost to go to a game? The

48:26

Super Bowl a couple thousand bucks

48:29

three ten thousand, So

48:31

somebody dropped the money to get into

48:33

the building with the sole

48:36

intention unless it was something that was you

48:38

know, not premeditated to get

48:41

arrested.

48:41

That's a wild you don't talk about all

48:43

time. Bad decisions, right, or

48:46

maybe the guy was drunk.

48:47

The guy is drunk.

48:48

But I but you're right, unless unless and there

48:51

was guy there was some other plot.

48:52

I want to hear two guys. It was two guys, two guys,

48:55

like I mean, it was a conspiracy.

48:56

Maybe you know, it's one of these things like like

48:58

the Watergate breaking, where like they somehow someone

49:00

opened a back door and in came these two guys without

49:03

tickets. They weren't people that spent twenty grand,

49:05

so that was a little extra entertainment. The other one I'll

49:07

throw out there is the halftime show. Like tow

49:09

a tucket touch on the halftime show on this wrap

49:12

up, it's fine.

49:13

I thought usher was fine. I give it like a solid

49:15

bee he did. I think one of the

49:17

moves you see with a halftime show sometimes

49:20

is if you don't have,

49:23

you know, a certain extra

49:26

gear to make it truly special.

49:28

And very few artists do like Prince for

49:30

instance, playing Purple Rain in the rain. If you

49:32

don't have that not to say I don't love yeah,

49:34

and you get ludicrous out there doing yeah, I'm little

49:36

John. That was the heart

49:39

of it. But I think they sometimes

49:41

you'll see these halftime actually just like

49:43

throw something against the walls, like all right, throw

49:46

five hundred people out there at the same time, put

49:48

everybody on roller skates and then get

49:50

the band back there, and then have seven hundred

49:52

more people come from all directions, and it's kind of they're

49:54

trying to like spam you with. So I

49:56

would say, while it was an impressive

49:59

coordination, uh, I

50:01

would give it, yeah a B.

50:03

I turned to Greg.

50:04

I guess I'm not a big usher person, like I was

50:06

like Greg, honest question, like was that good?

50:08

I'm not sure. I just don't know what that was.

50:11

And I was like, yes, I think if

50:13

I think it was good, Like he danced

50:15

his ass off, you know, it worked a lot harder certainly than.

50:18

His body is looking great.

50:19

He did look he worked hard like my timeline

50:22

couldn't have loved it more. I think if you were, it

50:24

actually might be his peak.

50:26

I feel like even though we were in our young

50:28

twenties.

50:29

I feel like, if you're like thirty five to

50:31

forty, like your pe, your peak, people

50:33

loving it.

50:34

It's fine, it's fine, it's fine,

50:37

it's fine. That's why I saw people calling

50:39

it said I said it was fine.

50:40

I saw people calling it the best halftime

50:42

show ever. And that's kind of what threw me. I'm like, that's

50:44

knows what I.

50:45

Those are simple folk that just see oh there's no

50:47

but they're just like Usher.

50:48

They're just Usher fans.

50:49

And I don't know, how do you know who said that?

50:51

I think if you like Usher, this was

50:53

an I'm.

50:54

So certain about everything, Greg, because what is

50:56

it?

50:57

Because like everyone on Twitter that I'm

50:59

following that was just talking

51:01

about it, Like.

51:02

With everyone that you follow on Twitter.

51:04

That's what we're basing it on.

51:05

Yeah, oh pretty much. This is our super Bowl?

51:07

Reader going here with our super Bowl.

51:09

Oh, it's part of the super Bowl, not a spectacle of

51:11

it all. No, but I thought it was fine. What would

51:13

you give it? Go ahead, give me a.

51:14

Grade eight, eight

51:16

out of ten.

51:17

Okay, all right, give us another

51:20

odds.

51:20

And the one quick thing is that the Kelsey

51:22

bumping reed because I

51:24

believe he was mad that he wasn't on the field.

51:26

I'm glad it worked out that way.

51:27

Like if any Reid was not a

51:30

man of his carriage, if he was, let's say,

51:32

like Mike McDaniel's size going,

51:35

he's hitting the ground. No, he's not gone,

51:37

and he's hitting the ground, and it's a bigger

51:39

deal and it looks worse.

51:40

It's a massive it's a story that maybe

51:43

wins the Sandwich prople, which we'll get to in a little

51:45

bit.

51:45

And I'm glad.

51:46

I'm glad it wasn't a big deal. It's football, it's

51:48

emotional. He shouldn't have done it,

51:50

but it's also like everyone's fine with it.

51:52

But I saw a J.

51:53

Brown tweet out if that was me, I would have been kicked out of the league,

51:55

which you know, he's got a a little bit of a tongue

51:58

in cheek, but I think he has a point.

51:59

If a J.

51:59

Brown did that, if Stefan Diggs did that, if

52:01

Terrell Owens did that, people's reaction

52:03

would have been different. So just like remember that

52:06

and keep that same energy when people

52:08

that are really passionate and love the game lose

52:10

it a little bit, like have the same

52:13

grace for them that you have for Travis.

52:14

I totally agree.

52:15

I think there was license because it was Kelsey.

52:17

And then after the game, you know, Read and Kelsey

52:19

are up on the stage together and Kelsey's

52:21

you know, leading the entire crowd

52:23

in Viva Las Vegas, and it's all it's all

52:25

very kelsey ish and it works, except

52:28

like that moment feels lost in time.

52:30

And I'm sure Read and Kelsey will be fine

52:32

and call it you know, competitive natural that stuff, but it's

52:34

like.

52:35

You can't, you can't do that to your own code here.

52:37

I don't know.

52:37

I'm not trying to be overly, you know, officious

52:39

about it, but.

52:40

Here's kind of a funny thing lost

52:43

in all the week

52:45

long run up to the game where it just gets exhaustive

52:47

and all these guys are forced to talk over and over

52:49

and over again. Someone asked, I think

52:51

it was Mahomes at media night opening

52:54

night, like are you coach Read's favorite?

52:56

And they asked Kelsey the

52:58

same thing, and they asked some of the other guys like who's coach

53:01

reads favorite, and a lot of the guys are saying Kelsey,

53:03

And then they asked Mahomes like and he disputed,

53:05

is like, no, I'm coach Read's favorite like and

53:07

he he pointed out it was almost like the the uh.

53:10

Usually it's the younger brother, but in this case, it's the older

53:12

brother that just gets away with murder, like

53:15

he doesn't put in and Mahomes to

53:17

make his point, was saying, like he always shows

53:19

up just in time, Like I'm in the I'm

53:21

in the building.

53:22

For hours before he gets there.

53:24

Yeah, he's always acting up, and he talks

53:26

too much and all this stuff like Travis Kelcey

53:29

is, it's kind of spoken

53:31

out loud around it. She's kind of a pain in the ass, but

53:33

because he is who he is, that

53:36

also leads to him getting gray. So yes,

53:38

it's a good thing Andy didn't take a spill or

53:40

that would have been a huge story.

53:42

And I don't know how the TV like

53:44

bead handle the tailor swift thing.

53:45

I'm sure there was a lot of it.

53:46

But I did enjoy the moment when she just

53:49

like they go up to her, and there was a lot here in the stadium,

53:51

like she's just chugging a beer like

53:53

a pro. And I mean she's with the right boyfriend

53:56

for that, because he can do that as well with a quite a bit

53:58

of skill. You know who's Jason Kelsey is in our

54:00

hotel right he walked out

54:02

probably there right now.

54:03

Oh my god, No, he's going to the

54:05

Chiefs party.

54:05

True.

54:06

You know when uh, you know when

54:08

in uh once upon a time in Hollywood when

54:11

you see the Margot Robbie

54:13

character Sharon Tate, Sharon

54:15

Tate and Roman Plansky returning

54:18

to Lax and it's the slow motion

54:20

like kind of tracking shot of them and they're the most

54:23

fabulous like couple possible and

54:25

it's fame personify. That's what it looked

54:27

like being right behind Jason Kelcey leaving

54:29

the hotel on the way to get in our car to

54:31

come to the stadium. The guy is a rock

54:33

star, like who is who has enjoyed

54:36

a better run in terms of celebrity than

54:38

Travis's brother really both

54:40

Kelsey brothers. And we saw their producer uh

54:43

and our former producer TD in

54:46

the lobby and and uh that was

54:48

a nice thing too, So I guess we're connected.

54:49

We are.

54:50

It's going to be a tough time for them when

54:52

we when we create one of the larger

54:54

upsets in media and win the iHeartRadio

54:56

Sports podcast there knocking out the Kelsey.

54:59

Got super Bowl three. If we could do that, Ted

55:01

what.

55:02

He was our producer back when we

55:04

played that clip with Chris eating the softball

55:06

pants back in the day.

55:08

He went and got all that the meal.

55:10

It all connects, all right, Let's take one

55:12

more break and when we come back, some

55:15

final thoughts and we'll go over our locks

55:17

and our sandwich props.

55:21

Jeez, Kingdom, we've

55:27

been fighting for right over there.

55:29

How about a little.

55:31

Vegus lod

55:35

Vegas.

55:43

There it is cav Skelcey on the field

55:45

with CBS Jim and by the way, Nance

55:48

come on Bud like it's

55:51

it's this media thing, taboo thing to

55:53

ask him about Taylor,

55:56

like face to face or even mention

55:58

her when he's singing. You

56:00

can make a little joke there like oh maybe maybe

56:02

Taylor will have you on the next album and then have him Jim

56:05

a rare drop of the ball and then he forces as

56:07

a follow up question at the end. Okay,

56:09

now sing the Beastie Boys song for the seven thousand

56:11

time.

56:11

We don't need a Jim. It's a missed opporitioneray

56:14

by a pro and I'm.

56:15

Curious we're CBS because again we didn't

56:17

get the teleguests. I'm

56:19

curious how much restraint they showed with Taylor

56:22

Swift or whether they were like all

56:24

about it. But we had some boots

56:27

on the ground. We have a new rising insider

56:30

on the videographer ranks.

56:32

You want to get into that one.

56:33

Yeah, the weekend got going with my son Luke

56:35

is there.

56:36

You know, I didn't even know this existed, but he

56:39

has got into something called plane spotting where you

56:41

you know, we live near Lax and like he there's

56:43

a number of places you can go and just you post

56:46

up and the planes are coming like right

56:48

over you and landing, and

56:50

so you get incredible footage that there are these

56:52

like hobbyists in other parts of the world that don't

56:54

have that access. And like he built this Instagram

56:56

account and TikTok in YouTube

56:59

and all this stuff, and it's blowing up, and it blew up

57:01

hardcore because he's got all

57:03

this data in like software and apps to

57:05

know exactly what kind of planes are coming in and

57:08

you can see from like miles away, and like he

57:10

captured Taylor Swift's plane

57:12

landing at Lax before they got up and went

57:14

to Las Vegas. And he went on TikTok

57:17

and got like, I don't even know what the number

57:19

is now, but it was like one point six million at some point,

57:21

and it's it's at lax plane spotting.

57:24

It's easy to find on a nucas when eleven

57:26

year old boy he is thirteen, Yeah,

57:28

and he's obsessed with it. He does it like five six times

57:30

a week. But like he caught the Cardinals plane one

57:33

time and they retweeted him. But no response

57:35

from Taylor Swift yet, but it did

57:37

do well with the public.

57:39

That is incredible.

57:40

While you're talking sons, this was Walker's

57:42

first Super Bowl

57:44

good one. I got to bring him to and

57:47

hang out with him ahead of the game, and

57:50

it's awesome. I mean, we are extremely

57:54

lucky, but to see his

57:56

excitement and just for him to be in the building

57:58

one, I'm that excited, and then to be with him it

58:00

feels amazing. And then we walk in and like

58:03

Cynthia's on the JumboTron

58:07

doing next Gen stats and then Colleen

58:10

is taking over and was a very big presence

58:12

of the in stadium presentation and

58:15

it just feels like what it just feels like, It's it's

58:17

crazy that it's the Super Bowl and yet it feels

58:19

small for us. We're very fortunate

58:22

even just it's one of the great things about being with

58:24

the NFL is those tickets they give

58:26

us.

58:26

First of all, it's.

58:27

Like the best perk of all time that you can share

58:29

it, and then for it to feel like a home game,

58:32

that it's like our people, and yet it's like presenting

58:34

the Super Bowl.

58:35

It's incredible. Yeah.

58:36

I was lucky enough to take two of my

58:38

friends from way back the day, from elementary

58:40

school days.

58:41

What do you think they're doing right now? I don't know.

58:43

It's a long day, supers, a long day.

58:45

Yeah, so they're back of the hotel probably,

58:47

and I'll find out we're going to be heading back ourselves

58:50

in just a few minutes. But I've been able to now to

58:52

take all my best buddies from New

58:54

York, my both my parents,

58:57

my in laws, brothers, sisters.

58:58

It's been it's

59:01

to share. This experience.

59:02

Is the super Bowl, not just the game, but

59:04

the whole weekend and being in the city. It's

59:06

not it's not for the

59:09

meek of heart in terms of financially, it's

59:11

a it's crazy expensive to everything

59:13

around the.

59:14

Super Bowl, and especially you're in Vegas.

59:15

But if you ever, if you're a football fan, if you ever

59:18

get the chance to experience the Super Bowl

59:20

once, it's it's unlike anything else.

59:22

It's it's so fun to to share.

59:24

Though, maybe don't do the Vegas one if you're trying

59:26

not to spend as much money.

59:27

What do we think about Vegas as the super Bowl host?

59:29

It'll be back, it'll be in the Yeah,

59:32

that in doubt, But what did we

59:34

think about it?

59:35

They handled it all like, well, it's

59:37

all intense for our selfish purposes.

59:39

It's like, you know, it's tough to get a coffee

59:41

or a breakfast for like less than forty dollars or

59:44

like a thirty minute wait. So that's a bit of a tricky spot.

59:46

But to be it all ran well and like it

59:48

just makes sense.

59:49

That's not the ones run really well.

59:50

And it's like it at least like the very

59:53

from a reporting angle, like I don't like, don't

59:55

even know what it's like to be a fan of these things in this way, but like you

59:57

get to you go go from A to B to C to cover various

1:00:00

It was good relatively you sy to do that. I

1:00:02

just think in general, like staying in Vegas

1:00:05

for like six days is not a great plan

1:00:07

as a human.

1:00:08

Not for long term health or living a

1:00:11

long life. All right,

1:00:13

I thought it was good as well. It was Saturday,

1:00:16

the gridlock was out of control, so yeah, there are

1:00:18

elements of it that are just kind of a pain in the ass.

1:00:20

But I thought the city was really well

1:00:22

clipped equipped.

1:00:23

And it was kind of the thing that I realized

1:00:25

when I was thinking about it last night was

1:00:28

the energy of everybody wanting

1:00:30

to have the best time possible and being in a

1:00:32

really good mood is kind of the energy

1:00:34

if anyone has ever gone on a guy

1:00:36

or a girl trip to Vegas with your friends

1:00:38

and you're in that same headspace. So you're

1:00:41

taking that type of headspace and then bringing

1:00:43

the super Bowl, which is kind of the similar thing, and

1:00:45

adding it up.

1:00:46

It's kind of like endorphin wise, it was

1:00:49

intense. It was like as super

1:00:51

bowly vegacy as it gets.

1:00:53

It was a little intense.

1:00:55

Yeah.

1:00:56

I was walking the lobby like after

1:00:58

two am last night and the place like

1:01:00

it was five pm.

1:01:01

Like this is an absurd right, basically

1:01:04

beautiful, horrible, insane

1:01:06

place.

1:01:07

Everything rolled together. It's the American

1:01:09

experience. All right, let's

1:01:11

talk about our locks. Greg,

1:01:13

you have finished a incredible

1:01:15

season, and I just want to say

1:01:19

congratulations. I mean, I

1:01:22

believe what did we where did we finish? You

1:01:24

locked up the Chiefs? I did lock up the Chiefs?

1:01:26

Did I?

1:01:28

And I think you finished the season eighteen

1:01:32

and four? Does that not nineteen and four?

1:01:34

I believe that's by far the best record of all

1:01:36

time. It simply has

1:01:38

to shatter anything else.

1:01:39

Eighteen weeks and then what four rounds of playoffs?

1:01:41

Five playoff weeks?

1:01:42

I got one playoff wrong for sure, start

1:01:45

off unbelievable.

1:01:47

That's going to be tough. You want to talk about. You

1:01:49

did repeat his champion. Good for you. You're

1:01:51

going for three peete as well.

1:01:53

I'm the Chiefs. Yes, congratulations

1:01:55

to you.

1:01:56

I closed famously incredibly

1:01:58

strong after a slow start, and

1:02:00

I think people will remember that. I

1:02:03

think I finished after

1:02:05

being two games under more than halfway

1:02:07

through the season to end up where I did.

1:02:10

Really a lot of people are talking about it.

1:02:11

One of the great comebacks ever to finish

1:02:13

in second place. I believe, Mark, you made

1:02:15

a different type of history. Yes,

1:02:18

to get into.

1:02:18

It, Yeah, I mean I was informed at

1:02:20

one point that this was like a month month and a half ago,

1:02:23

I had notched nine wins and

1:02:25

it was like, just just to let you know. I mean, of

1:02:27

course you're probably going to continue to win a couple more

1:02:29

games here. That nine would be the lowest

1:02:31

win toed locks in the season. And if you

1:02:33

think about it, we've been doing locks for what ten

1:02:36

years or something like, and there's always been

1:02:38

you know, there were four or three people involved, So that's

1:02:41

many, many, many participants if you think about

1:02:43

it. And I never won again. I

1:02:45

finished with nine wins. I don't even know how many lots

1:02:48

for the playoffs is Oh, for the play it's got hard

1:02:50

to do.

1:02:50

I think from that.

1:02:51

It's crazy too, because I think, did you have the Lions

1:02:54

and they like have that big lead, and then you have the forty nine ers

1:02:56

they have big leads, so it just keeps.

1:02:58

Yeah, I'm almost I say, from

1:03:00

another angle, another point of view, it's impressive also,

1:03:03

it's impressive.

1:03:04

Go ahead, you people are talking. People are talking

1:03:06

about this too, Dan.

1:03:07

And I'll give yes, people are talking.

1:03:08

I will say that there was

1:03:10

that quiet storm intensity

1:03:13

in the first half of the game. I could really

1:03:15

feel you Mark needing the forty

1:03:17

nine ers to win and Rock Party to fulfill

1:03:19

his destiny as an all time story. But

1:03:22

you you've been a pro and a trooper and you

1:03:24

haven't taken that into the podcast.

1:03:26

I mean, we have Jay on our production team, who

1:03:28

is his entire family is from the Bay Area and

1:03:30

he had to pretty much be on his feet working

1:03:33

turning away from the game during a lot

1:03:35

of it.

1:03:35

And he is a hardcore Niners fan.

1:03:37

This this is his whole family, and you know they melt

1:03:39

down in a sad fashion and.

1:03:40

Like he just goes right about his business. That's the

1:03:43

pro over there. Yeah, great shout out.

1:03:45

Shout out to Jay and everyone behind the scenes, led

1:03:47

of course by Eric and Matt Schneider and

1:03:50

the whole team that's made this made this thing

1:03:52

go this week, this weekend and this week

1:03:55

in Vegas market.

1:03:56

That's your class act. That's all I can say.

1:03:59

Finally, I agree, let's hit What

1:04:01

were our sandwich props? A lot of onion hangers.

1:04:03

I could tell you mine. I said,

1:04:05

Kelsey goes over two hundred yards wins

1:04:08

MVP, I believe. And when he was one for

1:04:10

one at halftime, I was

1:04:12

thinking to myself as I was walking to go to the bathroom

1:04:14

at halftime, I was like it's almost harder,

1:04:17

like in terms of what of the odds are the

1:04:19

odds better that he goes two hundred

1:04:21

yards or that he could actually finish a game with one

1:04:23

yard? But anyway, he ends up having

1:04:25

a nice second half, and but he doesn't approach

1:04:28

two hundred yards. So I am

1:04:30

out multiple sangles.

1:04:32

Let's talk kind of even out. I have a feeling I was

1:04:34

not close with my Pacheco. We didn't

1:04:37

mention him. He ended up with ninety

1:04:39

two yards from scrimmage in twenty

1:04:41

four carries, twenty four touches, including

1:04:44

six catches, two fumbles.

1:04:45

A couple times were live.

1:04:46

You could really tell he took the wrong angle,

1:04:49

didn't have good instincts.

1:04:50

Almost seemed a little tight, didn't you.

1:04:52

Also, like a couple of weeks ago and form

1:04:54

you know, America and points beyond that. That's

1:04:56

that was the most solid Vegas

1:04:58

option out there. Yeah,

1:05:00

just in general like that, you know.

1:05:02

Yeah, so that did not work out well, only one so

1:05:05

the.

1:05:05

Brand doesn't take a hit.

1:05:07

Smart, Yeah, that's that's a

1:05:09

but still Pacheco also cost you sandwiches

1:05:11

in yours mark.

1:05:12

Well, another absurd defeat.

1:05:14

I said that that some

1:05:16

sort of event would occur because it had been too quiet

1:05:18

in Vegas that something would happen

1:05:20

NFL related that would become a kind of story that we

1:05:23

tracked for the next three or four months.

1:05:24

And no right away like this is gonna saddle

1:05:26

us for like.

1:05:27

I didn't take you up on it because I felt it in

1:05:29

the air too. Something would happen this weekend. Man

1:05:31

if Andy, like God forbid, he

1:05:34

trips on his feet after Travis pumps.

1:05:36

Him, and that would have been huge. That's

1:05:38

it.

1:05:39

That would have been like Taylor Swift was jumping

1:05:42

up and down celebrating, and overtime and ice

1:05:44

Spice like falls out of.

1:05:45

The luxury suite. That would we

1:05:47

got to win. That would have been it.

1:05:48

But we didn't get to win and ice ice

1:05:50

spice though Greg it

1:05:53

is safe, Greg likes rap

1:05:57

any other final thoughts on the game and

1:05:59

and where I really I'm it is incredible

1:06:02

to and its annoying and

1:06:05

maybe repetitive as this Chief's

1:06:09

dynasty coming on the heels of the Patriots

1:06:11

relentlessly getting to the stage.

1:06:12

It literally is like one ended and the other.

1:06:15

Yet bit of quarterbacks.

1:06:17

It wouldn't be the worst thing to have a few years

1:06:19

where things get mixed up, and then like, if

1:06:21

the Chiefs really do have the goods

1:06:23

the way the Patriots did, then they can maybe

1:06:26

come back in in a few years after the league

1:06:28

gets you know, let's mix it up a little bit. But

1:06:30

at the same time, there's there's I remember

1:06:32

when I was young, but it was when I was first becoming a football

1:06:34

fan. It was the Niners, and

1:06:37

I know the Patriots they went for

1:06:39

a three peat as well, But the Niners. I remember when

1:06:41

they won back to back in the late eighties and

1:06:43

they had a chance against the Giants the NFC

1:06:45

title game at the Stick and

1:06:48

they lost a I believe a two point game and

1:06:50

a Matt barfield goal late that ended

1:06:52

their three peet hopes.

1:06:53

It is almost impossible.

1:06:55

And I think they won the next year to that it is

1:06:57

almost impossible to they

1:07:00

didn't.

1:07:00

Actually, yeah, Washington, Yeah, it's almost

1:07:03

impossible to win three in a row.

1:07:04

We were talking Greg off Mike, which I don't

1:07:06

know why we would ever do that. We

1:07:09

should always talk on Mike that

1:07:11

it can't happen, right, they

1:07:13

can only go down from here at a certain point,

1:07:16

And yet they could.

1:07:17

There's a path to this team getting better if they

1:07:20

make a couple of moves, sure.

1:07:21

But the weight of it, and we'll have off season

1:07:23

to talk about. I think the weight of trying to

1:07:25

get that third there's a reason why no one's ever done

1:07:27

it, trying to get a

1:07:29

fourth in how

1:07:31

many years would it would it be? I mean five,

1:07:34

four and five, four and six,

1:07:38

whatever it is like, that's something the Patriots were.

1:07:40

I think the weight of it is it is really you

1:07:42

could see it with this team. This team had

1:07:45

a weight to it trying to defend it all

1:07:47

year. That was difficult. So it's going to be hard. But they're

1:07:49

different than any other team since twenty nineteen.

1:07:51

And this is my final thing I'll leave

1:07:53

with is that in the playoffs,

1:07:57

teams trailing by ten or other

1:07:59

than the Chiefs, they're six and forty eight drailing

1:08:02

by ten in a playoff game, and the Chiefs

1:08:04

are five and one.

1:08:05

In those games.

1:08:06

I mean, they can do it. They

1:08:08

can do it in any sort of way, but

1:08:11

they can do it in a very particular way

1:08:13

that you you get up on them

1:08:15

and it's just never safe. And

1:08:18

they're so complete, and this was a different

1:08:20

type of team, and that's to

1:08:22

me, that's what dynasties, what greatness

1:08:25

is are made of? Is that you realize,

1:08:27

Man, these football teams, they change so much

1:08:29

from year to year. They really change over

1:08:32

a three year span that you have to win in totally

1:08:34

different ways. But the things that doesn't change

1:08:37

is Mahomes and Reed

1:08:39

And as long as that's happening, like they

1:08:42

can find some other formula

1:08:44

to get back here.

1:08:45

And I yeah, I think actually like this

1:08:47

win kind of lifts a lot of weight. I know that

1:08:49

it would be there's gonna be a grind to go try to

1:08:51

win a third, but it's it's not that they're

1:08:53

playing with house money, because I think winning matters

1:08:56

to them.

1:08:56

Winning Super Bowls is going to be just an intensive journey.

1:08:58

And Andy Reid, I remember before the Sea, you

1:09:01

know, we talked on the show about Andy Reid saying everything

1:09:03

is reset. They had that rough and tumble training

1:09:05

camp where they were getting into fights with each other

1:09:07

and it was like, we are resetting the board. And I think

1:09:09

that the coach quarterback combination and really

1:09:12

the other players on that team as well do as

1:09:14

good a job of that as any team in sports. And so

1:09:16

they've got twenty four million dollars in kaprum.

1:09:19

They sit right in the middle of the league. I know there's gonna be some challenges

1:09:22

on that front, but in general they could go fine

1:09:24

weapons around Mahomes, you had

1:09:26

like you actually went and did this with a with a low octane

1:09:29

offense. What happens if you go add like

1:09:31

a true starting X wide

1:09:33

receiver that brings back some of the playmaking

1:09:35

ability around them.

1:09:36

But start with Chris Jones on the other side of the wall.

1:09:39

Because you take came out of the picture,

1:09:41

Spags is not gonna happen near the same success.

1:09:43

So there's challenges ahead.

1:09:44

But we should know not to doubt

1:09:47

the Chiefs, who are back to back champions,

1:09:49

and they are the bad guys now. When

1:09:51

they ran out of the tunnel here the play

1:09:53

it sounded like the old Patriots glory days, the way

1:09:55

teams would the fans would

1:09:58

fill up and get on Brady at these Super

1:10:00

Bowls.

1:10:00

But they loved it.

1:10:01

In fact, they were underdogs in each

1:10:03

of their last three playoff games, won

1:10:06

them all and Patrick Mahomes

1:10:08

was asked about being an underdog

1:10:11

and he said, on the field, just know that the Kansas

1:10:13

City Chiefs are never underdogs.

1:10:16

Know that. Learned it.

1:10:19

Go against the Chiefs at your own peril, and again

1:10:21

thank you to everyone around

1:10:25

this podcast, which just

1:10:27

completed its eleventh season, which

1:10:29

is unbelievable. It's hard to believe we've been

1:10:31

doing this since twenty thirteen. This

1:10:33

was our eleventh super Bowl on site

1:10:36

and that's an amazing thing. And we

1:10:38

obviously can't do it alone. So again, thank

1:10:41

you to Eric who had an amazing rookie year

1:10:43

and a great a great week, Jay

1:10:45

and all the team at Radio Row that helped us

1:10:47

out. Matt Schneider was pulling a lot of

1:10:49

the levers, Thomas Warren, the whole

1:10:52

podcast team, and everyone back in Englewood who

1:10:54

helped make this happen. We don't do it alone,

1:10:56

so thank you to everybody, and thank

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you to the listener. Where

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would we be without you guys, no wearing

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around, Thanks for giving us a great life.

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Thanks to everyone who come and said hi this week.

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It made you know, I felt like we're getting pop

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that ever let's go, That lifts

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the energy absolutely.

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All right, we're taking a week off. We'll be back in

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a bit. Uh and until then, you know

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what you gotta do.

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Heed the call.