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is absolutely certain your team

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It's around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis.

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I have heroes here. I

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do Greg

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Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Free

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agency is around the Corner Boys,

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the Greg

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Rosenthal Top one oh one

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conversation on this show today

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live on NFL dot com

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Monday. And

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I've been thinking, Mark, I did some real thought

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about this exciting.

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So we're doing our competing and I

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just want to make it clear. This is not about one upsmanship

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of you, Greg, It's not None of this is personal.

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This is just business. You know what I mean.

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Competing would indicate it's a little

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I don't know our element, but the point

1:02

of a competent to win, not to lose,

1:05

right.

1:05

But it's business. You ever hear that term.

1:07

It's business, not personal. It's a

1:09

bit. This is business.

1:14

So this is what I'm thinking Mark. Greg

1:17

has a one on one, He's got one hundred and

1:19

one blurbs. We wanted to go

1:21

bigger, and at one point I asked a

1:23

big funk behind the glass to contact the union

1:26

and find out how many free agency were. Maybe

1:28

we'll do them all that seems even

1:30

for us and what our ambitions are a little bit

1:32

over the top. So then I was checking out

1:35

the PFF, which is a widely respected

1:38

analytics based football website.

1:41

If you're not a waste, they

1:44

put out a free agency two

1:46

hundred okay, So now

1:48

we have a baseline to work off. Now

1:51

I would say, should we do a freegency two to oh one?

1:53

But no, because what I want and tell me if

1:55

you agree, okay, this is our joint past. I

1:58

want people to say that, oh wow,

2:01

Dan and Mark did well over one

2:05

hundred more than Greg. And then I thought

2:07

what would what would be well over one

2:09

hundred and I came down to the number two hundred and

2:11

thirteen. Okay, So total

2:14

the free agent two hundred and thirteen okay.

2:17

And then I was thinking, we got to blurb them all out, because

2:19

like PFF did one hundred and fifty blurbs, Greg's

2:21

one will go to one hundred and one. Did

2:23

you do you do one hundred and one blurbs?

2:25

We deftually do much more because

2:28

you end up using like one hundred and twenty people.

2:30

It's probably about well.

2:31

What lives on the side is one on one? We

2:33

Ai that bitch, and then we get

2:36

so we get all that, and then what we do is

2:38

we then go in let's say, in the top fifty,

2:40

and we just little

2:43

hens this like pop culture interjected in

2:45

little little zuzzer humor.

2:48

And then Cess Dog with his sesslerisms

2:50

and somen of some of.

2:51

His like in the Deep Dark Night Marcus

2:54

Davenport, you know.

2:55

Right, we and mostly the topics on edge

2:57

about that.

2:58

Yeah, he sees this is a good play. I

3:00

put thought into it. So you put some sesslersm

3:02

and some turns of phrase

3:04

in there in the top fifty because most people stop

3:06

reading after that. Then

3:09

last step, and this is the most important. Do we

3:11

preempt Greg? We get out before Monday?

3:14

Yeah? No. Do we put it

3:16

out right after Greg? No? We

3:18

do the Mayock move? Remember Mayok. Everyone

3:20

was like, oh, Mack seventy four, he

3:23

did one mock draft. It was

3:25

like the day before the draft, we put

3:27

out one. We drop it a couple days

3:29

before free agency, the illegal tampering period,

3:32

and that's becomes what everyone's

3:34

truly waiting for. What do you think?

3:35

I think, first of all, I appreciate the fact

3:37

that I had not even thought about this list in the

3:39

interim between our last show. But you have put a lot

3:41

of thought into it, quite I have.

3:44

I can tell you off from proof. I've been AI

3:46

in articles since roughly twenty twenty one,

3:48

and it's got the technology has gotten

3:50

better, So I think it won't be hard for us to player

3:53

in some of our own little spice and jazz

3:55

and no one will know.

3:56

Except for mostly in the top fifty.

3:58

Yeah.

3:58

Then yeah, you get down on the little on and regreg

4:00

gets to the one sentence blurbs when you get real

4:03

low.

4:03

Oh sure. And then one of the things I like

4:05

about this plane because you guys are so

4:08

passionate about it, and so you you would obviously

4:10

know this that with all

4:13

the cuts yes, and all

4:15

the last minute signings,

4:18

that list is changing more

4:21

than ever right up until always

4:24

moved. And so that last four

4:26

or five days of you like you can make your list

4:28

now, but you're going to be working feverishly

4:31

keeping up with all the transactions

4:33

and signings and and things added

4:36

to the lists and changing around and really meeting together

4:38

quite a bit in those final forty eight

4:40

hours. I actually am kind of glad

4:42

I'm getting mine done out of the way now,

4:44

because that I suit you that that would only,

4:47

you know, require someone who really loves the

4:49

game.

4:49

Because I'm in deep right now you're

4:51

trying to get shake Cessler out

4:53

of the project. That could tell it's a convincing

4:56

effort by But I don't think he understands

4:58

the powers of AI and how much we'll lean

5:01

into that to be tracking.

5:02

All this right on our behalf we've

5:04

got.

5:04

You know you didn't think about that, Greg.

5:06

It's like, oh, sky, should

5:09

I put him ahead of Tierre Tart or

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not? Like that's waky? You know someone's calling

5:13

you at eleven pm from the news desk, or actually,

5:16

do you have a method to actually produce

5:18

this anywhere?

5:19

Or do you think we doth protest

5:21

too much?

5:22

I do think there could be some fair

5:24

questions about like tangibly getting

5:27

approval to have this on our website.

5:28

You just that we've been right.

5:29

A slip website for fifty lease, Like come

5:31

on you you slip. I'll leave them purry

5:33

at twenty dollars.

5:34

Bill will do anything it on at all.

5:37

They would take some extra content and could be like mock

5:39

draft Central competing.

5:40

In fact, my biggest concern really is that if we

5:42

turn this in they're going to ask us

5:44

to be writing again, which that's that's a concern

5:47

as well. So these are all things to think

5:49

about here in the off season, and a project

5:51

that could really make or break our careers.

5:53

Yeah, I think we've got to We've got a tread carefully.

5:57

What a show.

5:58

It was great, great have and everybody here. This

6:01

is the Thursday edition of Around

6:03

the NFL Behind the Glass

6:05

today, by the way, sitting in for

6:07

the great Eric Roberts, who is with

6:10

his lovely wife and they're they're doing

6:12

they're on that wonderful journey towards

6:14

their first child landing on Earth, and

6:18

they have an appointment of some kind. What

6:21

do they call it? Sonogram? Yeah,

6:24

Sonogram, Big Funk

6:27

behind the Glass, the big

6:30

Funk and

6:33

a big chair, Big

6:36

funk, big

6:40

chair. He

6:42

ain't scared. What's

6:46

up about?

6:48

What's happening?

6:48

Guys? We could have went for another hour, but dang

6:54

damn that's hard.

6:56

Big funk at the best intro

6:58

music Mark are no way in for our intro

7:00

music.

7:02

Brandy Chavez, what's happening, Big

7:07

fonk, Big

7:10

Funk?

7:12

Our our our podcast

7:15

was now just a hangout podcast. Were just like, Hey,

7:17

what's going on?

7:18

How are you, buddy? I'm doing good. How about

7:20

you guys? This is interesting, This feels uh feels

7:22

different.

7:23

It's new.

7:23

You're feel like control, a rush of power.

7:26

Keep it to be sitting in that seat.

7:28

Yeah. How does it feel to be uh

7:31

potentially have a power play opportunity of

7:33

your own with Eric out out of the studio.

7:35

I mean it's it's tempting to abuse it, right. Power

7:38

corrupts all, doesn't it. But I

7:40

think I should be okay.

7:42

And I believe you have and this is a great speaking

7:44

of power place. I think you have something

7:46

for a member of the show that you wanted.

7:49

To I do, yes, okay,

7:52

I see Cynthia, you want to bring it's

7:54

on the chair, especially.

7:55

The great Cynthia who does incredible

7:57

work on our show.

7:58

Sesska, what is this?

7:59

Oh?

8:01

Thank you Cynthia?

8:02

And well,

8:05

I mean this is this is actually quite

8:07

weak changing because I got

8:09

my unh soiled

8:12

super Bowl program, which you remember was

8:14

on my desk.

8:14

It was soiled, and

8:16

uh, this is the ticket and keep.

8:19

Show the audience on YouTube. There's nothing

8:22

in it, uh hold out,

8:25

got to take the film up, but we could do that.

8:27

We'll do I want to keep it.

8:29

How about that. What a move by Randy.

8:31

That's great, Thank you very much.

8:33

I don't know, how do you feel?

8:35

I feel like that?

8:36

First of all, I think I learned the lesson is like, complain

8:38

about more things and then results

8:40

start to happen.

8:41

It's true, there's.

8:42

That, But I have to say one thing about our company, and right

8:44

now, you know, we're in this building where you know, half

8:46

the place is leaking, You've got all the outdoor

8:48

shrubbery on the Yeah, it's

8:50

it's got issues. But I had multiple

8:53

people inside the building who listened to the show who

8:56

reached out and said, you can have my

8:58

ticket, I don't want it,

9:00

which is like, you know, I think that was the that's

9:02

a positive thing about our company, about this corporation.

9:04

It shows that there's still a human element

9:07

to the operation. Right. I feel that.

9:11

So Randy sitting in, thank you Randy

9:14

for holding it down today. Like we said,

9:17

yes, the Free Agency two thirteen is

9:19

coming, but the one of record right

9:21

now it is the Greg

9:24

Rosenthal Free Agency one oh one, and we're

9:26

going to get to that and and dig into

9:28

it. But before we do that, let's hit the news

9:31

away.

9:31

You snap justin fields off the left

9:34

side, free play for Justin worked it down the left

9:36

side.

9:36

He's got DJ board at the time.

9:38

We'ping into the end zone for the touchdown.

9:41

Touchdown pairs in their backet

9:43

front. So many big moments

9:46

for Justin Fields this

9:49

past season. Not maybe has

9:51

not lived up to the

9:54

highest of you know, expectations,

9:57

but he certainly has flashed multiple times in Chicago

9:59

and now with the Bears in a major crossroads

10:02

moment. We talked about it with Connie Fox

10:05

on the Monday Show. The Bears have to make a decision

10:07

what they're gonna do. We talked about in the news that

10:09

Justin Fields had unfollowed the

10:13

Bears on social media, which of course is becomes

10:15

a story in today's football culture.

10:18

He was a guest on the Everybody's

10:20

Got a Podcast?

10:21

I already noticed this. I do not never

10:24

being that does not have a podcast every player.

10:27

This is the newer thing now. Podcasts

10:29

are hugely popular now obviously and media

10:31

folk like ourselves that makes sense, But now

10:33

it seems as if almost every player in the league

10:36

has a podcast, as does a

10:38

mon Ross Saint Brown on the Saint Brown

10:41

Bros. Podcast posted on Wednesday.

10:43

Here is Justin Fields when asked about

10:45

his move to unfollow the Bears

10:47

on social media. Oooh, why do.

10:49

People take social media so seriously?

10:52

But like.

10:54

This and that, like I still mess with the Bears and that,

10:56

I'm just trying to take a little break, un follow

10:58

with the Bears and the NFL. Bro I'm not trying

11:00

to have football on my timeline.

11:02

Like, I don't believe

11:04

that at all, And here I do.

11:05

He said he was going on vacation and he's just sick

11:08

of seeing all the like Fields reporting

11:10

and stuff.

11:11

And then but he unfollowed the Bears. The Bears don't have

11:13

that reporting.

11:13

Sure, they're putting out stuff of like college

11:16

stuff of like what should we do

11:18

with the draft? You know, stuff like that. I don't

11:20

think it's yeah, but like, but.

11:22

If you unfollow your team during

11:24

this time, it's going to lead to many more

11:26

distractions that yes to deal with.

11:27

I would say that there's a tonal difference in like when

11:29

Kyler Murray created all that drama a couple of years

11:31

ago and kind of started this trend.

11:33

He said, yeah, he's tired of hear he's the godfather,

11:35

And uh, does Justin Fields want to stay

11:37

in Chicago? Do you want to stay

11:39

in Chicago or what's up.

11:40

Yeah, of course, of course I want to stay,

11:44

to be honest, but I'll be trying to, like, you know, with

11:46

all the talk, it's hard to you

11:49

know, I guess kind of just boom

11:51

being one place, but I can't see myself playing in

11:53

another place. But I

11:55

know how that league is, like you was

11:58

probably the same way before you have

12:00

Green Bay. But I mean, if it was up

12:02

to me, I would want to stay in Chicago. I love the

12:05

city, the city's lit, the fans they're

12:07

you know, they're great, and the people. But

12:11

it's a business. Sign got no control over it. So whatever

12:13

happens happens. But I feel like the biggest

12:15

thing with all this going on right now, I just wanted.

12:17

To be over. So I get that

12:19

that I get yeah, and that I believe that it's

12:21

it's it's weighing on him and uh,

12:24

and we'll see, we'll find out soon enough what happens.

12:26

I think he's like, uh, because you know, you get it later

12:28

on in your career as a quarterback and you can pack in

12:31

like no trade clause or

12:33

need to agree to a trade. You know, if something's

12:35

gonna happen, if there's quarterback movement more than than

12:37

ever before in the.

12:38

History of the league. But he is powerless,

12:41

Like.

12:41

If they move him, he doesn't have any choice over that,

12:43

and like a team that probably has a lot of issues

12:45

is going to want to trade for him. And it's like you're

12:48

a couple of years into a career where like there's

12:50

zero patients at quarterback and suddenly

12:52

justin Fields, like a first round pick is

12:54

getting moved and who knows where he winds

12:56

up in his life has changed entirely.

12:58

Yeah, it's he's our eye seasons

13:00

just starting, you know. But he's

13:02

been in it for what six weeks now, and he has

13:04

seen countless tweets

13:07

and posts on Instagram and everything

13:09

like wondering if he's gonna be there, and

13:11

he probably knows the score that it's less

13:14

likely and it must be a powerless,

13:16

annoying position. He could just use the mute button.

13:18

You know.

13:19

I feel like that.

13:20

I mean Instagram,

13:22

when you mute people sometimes it still kind of shows

13:24

up anyways.

13:25

So Instagram

13:28

is like happy birthdays and thank you and

13:30

appointments of coaches. It's not it's

13:32

not like what will we do about justin Fields.

13:35

We love the college kids, but

13:37

you know by the way, and that's why free agency

13:40

is so important and how amazing it

13:42

is to think that until like the early nineties,

13:45

I think they didn't even have free agency for

13:47

the players in any real way, so it

13:49

could it's going to be and I think

13:52

I think the real stories, he knows what's happening,

13:54

just like we all kind of know what direction this seems to be heading.

13:56

That he will be traded and then that

13:59

team will control his rights and could pick

14:01

up his fifty year option and then maybe franchise

14:03

tag him. He's a couple of years

14:05

away, potentially from having any real power

14:07

over where he wants to play, and

14:10

that's part of the reason why it's a bummer

14:12

for him that the Bears thing didn't quite.

14:13

Take one little note on their side that looks like

14:16

an entertaining podcast and there obviously they can

14:18

get good guests, that's that's nice, But on little

14:20

microphone tip like I could hear an airplane in

14:22

the background, so I just you know, these are

14:24

little lots that you know with time and.

14:25

Expects a loss. But when the

14:28

producers and you know, equanimious

14:30

in a monro, they must have been pretty excited when

14:32

they were like, oh, we got fields on like

14:34

the day that he followed, because I'm sure it was

14:37

planning ahead of time. Now, just like a big beautiful

14:39

ties, we're getting some pop on the Around the NFL

14:42

podcast.

14:42

It's big times beautiful timing. In

14:45

other news, I love this story. Uh,

14:47

And listeners of this pod,

14:50

you know that Nick Sirianni's been on my radar

14:52

for a long time. And

14:54

before the Eagles went up in

14:56

flames last year after their ten and

14:58

one start, they just lost out out essentially

15:01

and then got embarrassed in the playoffs. And

15:03

it all kind of started with

15:06

Big Dom, the

15:08

Curse of Big Dom, who is the

15:10

security officer on the

15:12

sideline, the chief security officer who

15:14

was banned from the sidelines

15:16

for the regular season the balance of the

15:18

regular season after a December

15:21

third incident in a blowout loss of the Niners

15:23

in which he had made contact

15:25

or got into a sideline quarrel

15:28

with Drake Greenlaw of San Francisco.

15:31

And this is wonderful. I just love this.

15:34

Derek Gunn, who is a Philadelphia

15:36

radio host, been there for a long time. I'm

15:39

just gonna read the whole tweet. It's gotten a little other juice

15:41

in it. Too, and it

15:43

gives you an idea of a lot.

15:46

According to sources, Jalen, I

15:49

love this, by the way, radio guy tweet this.

15:50

One got ignored, I think because people were confused.

15:52

Yeah, it's a little weird. According to the stars is Jalen,

15:55

big Contract pulled in numerous directions

15:57

on slash off field, put him under a lot of pressure.

15:59

He didn't handle well. Ellipses, big

16:02

Dom suspended Dash

16:04

controls Sirianni's emotion on sideline.

16:07

In his absence, Nick gets in numerous arguments

16:09

with players slash coaches during games.

16:12

So that's the headline

16:14

that Syrian, as soon as big Dom was banned

16:17

from the sideline, could not could no longer control

16:19

himself and was just fighting with everyone.

16:21

And that perhaps I guess this is inferring

16:25

led in part to the meltdown of the entire operation.

16:28

It's like the most unbelievable

16:31

NFL offseason story I can think of it in a long

16:33

time.

16:33

But if that's true.

16:34

That that's true, they kept the head

16:36

coach.

16:37

It's wild.

16:38

I mean, we kind of flashpoint Flashpoint

16:40

focused this a little bit because we know, you know,

16:42

there was the trend that the team went one to five down

16:44

the stretch without Dom, but it's wild.

16:46

Wait for that bonus as the associate

16:49

producer for presenting that guest that week.

16:51

Understand incoming.

16:52

We'll have a sit down. Yeah, we'll just stop. We'll

16:54

break brad market eye.

16:56

Yeah, that celebrating said that was

16:58

a big moment for for me and and I haven't

17:00

really seen anything.

17:01

We'll get there. We're gonna break red after

17:03

the top two thirteen blows up went

17:05

over big cigars and

17:08

a glass of brandy on a brown

17:10

suede couch, leather couch.

17:13

We'll touch on that, okay, Yeah,

17:16

yeah, no, not at all. But I just I this to me is

17:18

just it kind of confirms everything

17:21

Dan you were saying about Sirianni where

17:23

I don't think that felt it felt like a

17:25

you thing.

17:26

And now it's clearly a real Eagles thing.

17:28

It's good to get a dub every once in a while. Yeah,

17:31

when he was shouting at the I think it was the Kansas

17:34

City fans after they kind of lucked into

17:36

that primetime win. That was a tipping point for mely

17:39

Yeah.

17:39

And pretty much fall apart.

17:42

I what

17:44

was that? Greg?

17:45

I love that for the Eagles, you

17:48

do. I

17:51

don't love this for the Eagles. He feels

17:53

very diminished

17:56

in terms of his leadership.

17:59

Like the owner and

18:02

Howie I think came in and

18:04

made some decisions about the coordinators.

18:07

You know that that they wanted him to have possibly

18:09

and the players are smart enough to know that. And then this

18:12

report comes out and just

18:15

in general, I think

18:17

it puts you in a tough spots as a leader

18:19

going into the season that like this

18:22

information is out there and it makes you think about

18:24

how A j. Brown reacted and really how all

18:26

the players reacted, Like there is there has

18:29

been no smoking gun, like no great

18:31

answer for what happened there. It just

18:33

it's one of the most mystifying, like meltdowns

18:35

of any team.

18:36

I can run shot up the hot butts rankings

18:38

in unprecedented fashions right Super

18:41

Bowl they were.

18:42

The one seed and they went from the not

18:44

only the one seed, but like the best record in the NFL

18:46

by two games at that point to being

18:49

a little surprised he even kept the job. What did

18:51

you think, Dana, the Jalen part of it?

18:54

I well, you know, I've I've been wondering about

18:56

Jalen too, And because there was obviously

18:58

a leadership boyd there when the team went

19:00

down in flames, and that it kind of begins with the quarterback,

19:03

and I thought that quarterback and head

19:05

coach. I mean, that's how locker rooms are won and

19:07

lost in a lot of ways. So I don't we don't

19:09

know, really, and maybe more will come out, but I

19:11

think it's pretty clear that Sirianni is

19:14

his He's in a vulnerable

19:16

place and maybe he doesn't have a real handle on the team

19:18

anymore. And I think we'll learn more

19:20

about Jalen Hurts this year. This is such a

19:22

huge season for the whole operation.

19:24

Obviously, I'm checking out the rest

19:27

of Derek Gun's tweets, by the way, because kind

19:29

of blown away by the structure of that tweet. That's

19:31

not typically how he tweets, and he's

19:34

usually a little shorter bursts, so

19:36

maybe that's when he starts more of

19:39

a detail oriented But

19:41

that's a tough one in the sense that

19:44

that that's the one that probably has gotten more noticed

19:46

than anything he's ever sent out. You want to

19:49

put together a fully formed paragraph in that he is.

19:51

One of those local reporters and I know he's

19:53

respected there in Philadelphia. We were He'll

19:55

just have like one or two bomb drops per year.

19:57

That's a good one.

19:58

Stuff like that. You like to be you like

20:00

to be that guy, but you don't want to leave the comma

20:02

a space away from from this.

20:04

You know the word.

20:05

And if you're going to do an ellipses, it

20:08

is with the third the third period.

20:11

If you're going to do an ellipses, don't hit us with two. But

20:13

Greg, you also on you know, and I don't

20:15

roam exit job, mister. I'll have

20:17

lots of type of you.

20:18

Well you you seem intentionally you

20:20

would go intentionally to kind of zig on

20:22

capitalization non capitalization on

20:24

your tweets.

20:25

That's that's stylized.

20:27

I'm not saying it's a mistake written always

20:30

yeah, but that's intentional, Yeah, very

20:32

intentional.

20:33

Lack of punctulation, lack

20:35

of capitalization. It happens. I

20:37

want to move into what you know, Derek gun

20:39

but you

20:42

know is a nice look at some seasoned

20:46

chicken on the grill. So I want to

20:48

get into those kind of tweets.

20:49

That's that's good. Yeah, sometimes

20:52

too, and it's not just Greg, I've done

20:54

this as well. Sometimes you don't capitalize

20:56

and you don't punctuate, and it's almost

20:58

kind of like it's a way

21:00

of expressing your take in almost

21:02

a matter of fact tone, or almost a little bit of like

21:05

a sarcastic tone.

21:07

I mean, I get how it works, like I don't thank you,

21:11

but.

21:12

I'm saying that's great. I

21:14

don't think that Greg's but

21:17

too.

21:18

It's a choice, and he's he's you know,

21:20

I don't think I know that Greg, as the editor

21:22

of the Around the NFL section of the website,

21:25

understands basic and also complex

21:27

grammatic Twitter.

21:28

The rules are different on Twitter. You know, it's

21:31

a it's a lighter medium, it's not worthy

21:33

of punctures.

21:33

Think it helps you appear youthful, and you

21:35

know.

21:37

It's a bad pocket. We're bad at this. Now, let's

21:40

move on, let's get

21:42

into Oh all right, you know what

21:44

I'm going to get out of the way. Yeah, right. I

21:47

feel like we're this year is the good news.

21:49

I feel like we're running out of these where

21:51

I have to throw it to Greg because

21:53

it's a patriot retiring, because how many

21:55

more can there be? Because now we're at special

21:58

Special Team's ace Matthew Slater and

22:00

uh, if we're at the Special Teams as we

22:03

have to be near the end.

22:05

Yeah, Well, Tantaia

22:07

High Tower was just hired as part

22:09

of this staff. So like, we'll we'll

22:11

now get to live through these guys as coaches,

22:13

which I'm tough, I don't.

22:16

Well, we don't have to live. Yeah, that's

22:18

a personal look.

22:19

If Bill Belichick says

22:21

that he's the greatest

22:24

core special teams player.

22:25

And music under this, go

22:27

ahead, and I don't need it to be long.

22:29

I'm just saying, let's give.

22:30

Us a little inspiration out there. Yeah.

22:33

Uh, Matthew Slater is the best

22:35

special teams core player in

22:37

the history of the league, according

22:40

to Bill Belichick, a pretty

22:42

great expert on special.

22:44

I thought he was an expert on football until nobody hired

22:46

him.

22:46

Ten, ten time Pro

22:49

Bowl, Pro Bowler, two time First Team All

22:51

Pro. I don't think that makes

22:54

you Hall of Famer personally, but a Ring

22:56

of Honor guy for the Patriots,

22:58

and just uh, you know, a unique

23:00

career, the son of an all time great,

23:03

Jackie Slater.

23:04

The one thing about.

23:06

Just give some just give some love to a special

23:08

team's ace.

23:09

And it was a fifth round pick who really

23:12

was in danger of not making the team right out of the gate

23:15

and made this choice to make

23:17

special teams his thing I always found a weird

23:19

because I'll never forget go into the rams, like intro

23:22

in Los Angeles, where it was like they brought all the La Press

23:24

in into you know who blown all that business. But

23:26

like Jackie Slater, like a Hall of Famer

23:28

was there. And Jackie Slater is six

23:30

foot four, two hundred and seventy seven

23:33

pounds, and Matt Slater is

23:36

six feet tall two hundred and five pounds.

23:38

Do you don't typically see a son that isn't like?

23:40

Why didn't you?

23:41

I would have thought odds On would say,

23:43

you produce another like starter tackle.

23:46

She's three ft six is rio perp?

23:48

Well I was Actually that was where my mind went, the

23:50

mom or someone must be very

23:52

small in the equation and.

23:54

There are generations to get skipped a certain thing. Yes,

23:56

and we don't know the whole story. I mean you know, I mean, now now

23:58

that I got the Twitter that here's to the genetics.

24:00

Okay, it's it's a science, but an

24:03

uneven science in a way. You care

24:05

for me. You've made it.

24:06

No, you've made it so crystal clear for me.

24:08

I mean you're making it sound like six foot two

24:10

five is some like mini guy. It's not

24:12

but he'd be like, oh, that's it.

24:13

It's how often are you four inches

24:16

shorter and seventy pounds later than

24:18

your than your dad. That was also Jackie Slater's

24:20

playing weight. Yeah, he's trimmed down a little, but he's

24:22

not a he's not dominuative.

24:24

Jackie Slater's tell me only

24:26

fifty percent of the DNA of Matthew Slater

24:28

comes from Jackie.

24:30

I did not know that. That's that's what we need.

24:32

Okay, that's uh,

24:35

that's what's happening in the news before.

24:38

Actually, let's take a break and then I

24:41

want to cover one bit of behind the scenes.

24:44

Uh, you a

24:46

massive conversation that needs to be had, and

24:49

then we're gonna get to the one on one. Let's take a break. Welcome

24:58

back. So you may I remember

25:01

about a week or so we can have or so

25:03

before the super Bowl we had our annual

25:06

don't say super Bowl episode

25:09

or you cannot utter the words, and

25:11

if you do, there's a monetary penalty.

25:13

And all three of us incurred fines

25:17

also, And this maybe

25:19

seems a little unfair. Eric

25:21

I announced after the fact, anything

25:24

that he missed in terms of the buzzer, he

25:27

would have to pick up the fine. So he's into this now

25:29

the pot and then we were like, all right,

25:31

what are we gonna do with the money, and

25:35

got an idea, So Big

25:38

Funk, let's bring back Big Funk behind the glass.

25:40

What's up?

25:41

He didn't really go anywhere where?

25:43

Where's this gone?

25:43

All right? What's up, Funk?

25:45

What's happening?

25:47

Big Funk has had

25:49

a distinguished for a young man, a distinguished

25:51

career in broadcasting.

25:55

Part of his journey was at a radio station.

25:58

And I don't know, I can't speak to any

26:00

of the the talent working

26:03

there, either good or bad. And so

26:05

this isn't a hit piece your

26:07

former employer. I don't know. If you want to name them, that's up

26:09

to you. I mean, do you

26:11

think you know where I'm going?

26:12

By the way, I have a hunch.

26:16

But anyway, it was like a z

26:18

Morning Zoo type thing, and there

26:21

was a there was a radio bit

26:25

where the die hard

26:28

Packers fan Randy Chavez

26:31

was offered a sum of money. How

26:33

much Funk one thousand bucks? One

26:36

g whoa ten rocks if

26:39

he got a tattoo of a rival of

26:41

the Packers on his body? Yeah, the

26:43

catch of course being it

26:46

must be done live on air, and I think

26:48

we do we have any footage from this incident,

26:50

any rival.

26:51

Well I'll explain in a second here.

26:54

All right, and now we're watching it on

26:56

this radio. When was this? How long ago is this? Oh?

26:58

Man, this is like three four years ago. Fun

27:01

fact, the guy tattooing, he's onic masters.

27:03

Oh, very good, so at least it was something professional.

27:05

So there's funk. And check it out on the YouTube channel.

27:08

It looks painful, honest, thigh and it looks

27:10

like a Chicago Bears.

27:12

Wow. If you can subscribe to our Patreon,

27:14

you can see an exclusive.

27:17

Version of this, which is what I'm crazy, So it

27:20

really is.

27:20

I haven't seen this video in years.

27:22

This is so we might have to blur

27:24

it. It's it's it's that salacious

27:27

and sexy but funk. So

27:29

yes, here's what the plan is. Because

27:32

I don't like that I can take it. I

27:34

don't want I personally to

27:37

put a young radio producer in that position

27:39

like, hey, for the bid on the show, tattoo

27:42

yourself and we'll give you some money. Like when I

27:44

was however old you were there, twenty three years

27:46

old or whatever, I would have taken the thousand

27:49

two because I had to pay rent. So I have an issue.

27:51

Now here's the question, Yeah, are

27:53

you okay with that tattoo in the modern times

27:57

or does it annoy you a little bit that it's still on your

27:59

leg.

28:00

I'm not gonna lie it does It does annoy me a little

28:02

bit more so because every time I go

28:04

anywhere at all, usually

28:06

someone I roll with. Whenever there's like a lull,

28:08

like a little bit of silence, it's always like, you know,

28:10

Randy has a Bears tattoo.

28:12

Okay, So that's exactly where we

28:15

step in on this podcast. With

28:17

the money that we've raised from don't say

28:19

super Bowl, and perhaps with the help of

28:21

the listeners, I propose we

28:24

eliminate that tattoo for Mandy's like,

28:26

either through laser removal or

28:29

or go the Johnny deppro out the

28:31

Wino Forever oute, where we could modify

28:34

it and turn it into something else. I know

28:36

it was fairly intricate. How do

28:38

you feel about How do you feel about that as

28:40

a possibility.

28:41

I mean, I'm not opposed to it, right, I don't

28:44

get me wrong the tattoo. The tattoo is a

28:46

funny reminder. I guess depends

28:49

how you conserve funny of what I use, like

28:52

where it was before years ago. I

28:54

have no problem covering it up.

28:55

But that's it's near. It's merely an option

28:58

of course, of course. Yeah, So if if

29:00

Randy is if that's something he would want, like

29:02

if that's ever something that crossed your mind, like if I could

29:04

do it over again and get rid of

29:06

it, or if I could, you know, cover it up

29:09

somehow. We be around the NFL podcast

29:11

and our our listeners are here to help.

29:13

Well, after viewing the tattoo, I

29:16

I don't think we can cover it up like we were like, oh,

29:18

can we change it into the packers?

29:20

Look, it's like no, they can do amazing things.

29:22

Though I know that I don't have tattoos myself, but

29:24

they can do amazing tattoo.

29:27

It's the it's the face. It's got to be too tough.

29:29

I think it either needs to be.

29:30

It's a very greg thing to just assume that that can't

29:33

because I feel like if we got someone on the phone he's like,

29:35

oh yeah, we could definitely do something.

29:36

Well, the guy that it probably knows

29:38

he sounds like his career, but I don't know if we can get him.

29:40

But you could also catch like f you

29:43

Chicago bars.

29:44

So my backup plan, my backup plan was

29:46

like I would just write sucks underneath

29:48

it sometime. I mean, I've I've added

29:50

more pieces to my leg since. But

29:53

I mean, you know, I'm I'm not a I

29:55

have nothing. I love tattoos, so I have no problem

29:57

adding more stuff to my leg. It's it's

30:00

just, you know, it tells a story to me. It's memories I

30:02

have. I don't have the best memory, but looking at tattoos,

30:05

it reminds me of where I was, and it takes me back to

30:07

a place.

30:07

So you seem somewhat attached to

30:09

it.

30:09

Actually, no, it's just it's not I don't

30:12

like the Bears. I'm a Packers fan, so and.

30:13

We're certainly not gonna do what those shock jocks

30:15

did once upon a time and put pressure on you. It's

30:18

merely an option if if you want to go down

30:20

that road.

30:21

I wouldn't mind seeing some mockups from each of you

30:23

guys.

30:24

So you so you would prefer instead

30:26

of the removal, some sort of adjustment.

30:30

Potentially, I'm I'm I'm not opposed to

30:32

anything, really honestly.

30:33

Because that's then like a two part process.

30:35

Okay, right, okay, and add on

30:37

okay, And now I think whether it's our listeners

30:40

on social media, whether it's the subreddit

30:42

or wherever, if if we can get some you

30:44

know, if it's if Randy does give us the go

30:47

ahead to do some crowdsource

30:49

fundraising, because I don't know the cost. It could

30:51

be potentially pricey, but

30:54

we're we're gonna use the power of

30:56

this platform, uh, to

30:58

to make Randy Chavez is right

31:00

leg pure Again.

31:02

I appreciate the offer. That's very nice of you, guys.

31:04

I've never had someone extend such a

31:06

generous offer such as that to myself.

31:08

So I think Dan for you the street, your streak

31:11

of charitable uh you know behavior,

31:13

We've We've got a couple of mementos over in the corner

31:15

of the studio, but it just adds to that legacy.

31:17

Yeah, your idea,

31:20

So you are any He

31:22

sent me an autograph Domo Dave

31:25

Oswana. He sent me that

31:27

ball for the helping those underprivileged kids

31:30

find a home.

31:31

It was like the business and is not. It was like the

31:33

future business Leaders of America or whatever.

31:37

All that work I did with the orphans down and Clemson.

31:39

Now I now I can add this is Yeah,

31:41

you're right. I didn't look at it that way, but it's starting to

31:43

turn it.

31:44

Well, yourself wouldn't You wouldn't see it that way,

31:46

but others can help.

31:47

It's you, all right, It's got to be up to Randy, though, I think

31:49

we could afford it. I'm looking at the prayer. I think

31:51

we could.

31:52

Okay, good, uh funk uh Yeah, Let's

31:54

give you one week and we'll circle

31:56

back. We'll let you kind of really ruminate and think

31:59

on it, because I understand that is part

32:01

of the the ink journey for people that it did

32:03

takes you. That's a place in time, that's where you were.

32:06

Then we're not here to change rewrite

32:08

history.

32:09

I will say, though you three happened to be some of the

32:11

most creative guys I know.

32:13

Thank you. Keep going.

32:14

I mean, it's Eric. So

32:17

if you guys, if you guys want to come with some fun ideas,

32:19

I'm also a proud too. I would I would genuinely

32:21

would like to. I would like to see what you guys.

32:23

Can you get us just a photo of it so

32:25

that I can I will work on some mock ups potentially,

32:29

What about.

32:29

That old you don't see it as much anymore. But remember

32:31

the cars that had let's say

32:33

a Dallas Cowboys logo, and then

32:35

it would be Calvin and Hobbes urinating

32:38

on the logo. I remember those that would be a little

32:40

bit of a throwback.

32:41

For instance, I do love Calvin

32:43

and Hobbes, big Bill Waterson fan. But

32:45

I but getting getting

32:47

Calvin Peene on my leg might be because

32:49

you'd have to be giant. The logo is big enough where

32:52

the covin would have to take up most of my leg

32:55

and that would probably be a bit of hard sell.

32:57

Yeah, all right, Well that's just one idea. But see

32:59

that creative idea. Men here thinking

33:01

outside the box. Appreciate you guys always.

33:03

You got it funk all right. I feel like I

33:06

feel like that was progress and a potentially

33:08

a great situation for us.

33:10

Well, you're giving him the choice, which

33:12

I like. He's one week, right, you

33:14

have one week?

33:16

Have one week? All right? Here we go, moving

33:18

on free

33:22

agency one on one. How

33:26

many years have you been doing this on a

33:29

whether it's NFL media or your old

33:31

job at a NBC to World, How

33:33

long have you been doing a free agency

33:35

list R?

33:36

I don't know, fifteen years or so.

33:38

And do you find yourself because

33:40

I certainly was, and when I was in the power

33:42

rankings game, I was very competitive about

33:44

it. I wanted to have the best power rankings. Do

33:47

you have certain people and you don't have

33:49

to name them that you kind of use as

33:51

a measuring stick and you want to reach

33:53

that bar or exceed it.

33:56

I don't like to look at the other lists,

33:59

even mine's out.

34:00

Okayeh, once you've done yours.

34:01

So I think the

34:03

PFF you mentioned they do a lot

34:05

of work out there, because I've

34:07

seen them tennis and tweets. They shake it

34:09

up different ways. They got they got a lot

34:11

of production behind it that looks.

34:13

Great, and they like,

34:16

by the way, which is a comp free agency

34:18

comp for that player in past years.

34:20

I don't like to look at it till mine's out, because then

34:22

you just end up like it's like mock drafters

34:25

end up just like making a combination

34:27

of all the other mock drafts.

34:28

I never I never did the same thing of powering has never

34:30

looked. Will anybody?

34:31

I will A lot of they all do great great

34:34

Chrisco does one and

34:37

you enjoy doing it.

34:38

I do. Yeah. It kind of really does start

34:40

the off season in a lot of ways, because the

34:42

this off season journey begins with free agency,

34:45

uh well kind of begins with the

34:48

coach and staff hiring cycles

34:50

into free agency, and then of course the draft

34:53

and all of a sudden, teams are pretty much fully for

34:55

that.

34:55

We've ever let it go exclusively on the

34:57

podcast for the first time. Oh you

34:59

know, nice little pop.

35:01

Hmm, that's that's

35:03

fan fanfare horn once more, because

35:06

I did not know that hit

35:08

it? Do

35:12

you hear that? Atn exclusive?

35:16

Greg rosenbal free agency one on one. So let's

35:18

get into it, Greg and we can and Mark

35:20

you and I will kind

35:22

of prod around the list ourselves,

35:25

and Greg's gonna throw out some things that he took

35:27

away from putting it together.

35:28

We do look at other lists before we do our list.

35:30

Yeah, yes, I studied the list, of course,

35:32

because we have our big free agency two thirteen coming

35:34

up and that takes a lot of research about

35:37

the genre. But the

35:39

top ten just so people

35:41

know and then we can go anywhere we want, Okay, number

35:44

one, Chris Jones, number two, Kirk Cousins,

35:46

number three, T Higgins, number four, Josh

35:48

Allen, that's Josh Allen of the Jags, the pass rusher

35:51

number five, Christian Wilkins number six,

35:53

Brian Burns number seven, the Jerius Snead

35:56

number eight, justin Meta

35:58

Buke right week. Yeah,

36:01

at number nine, Antoine Winfield and number

36:03

ten daneil Hunter. I have

36:05

to say my big picture and right on the outside

36:07

of the top ten Mike

36:10

Evans, one of the great most consistent

36:12

wide receivers of this

36:14

era or any other era, potentially

36:16

about to reach free agency. I love

36:19

this list this year, and I know it's going

36:21

to be pillaged greg Ee by franchise

36:24

tags. That window just opened, and then you know,

36:26

anything else that goes down. But

36:30

the list itself, I feel like if you're a team that

36:32

needs to make upgrades, almost

36:35

every major position has some studs.

36:37

I think it's a strong list. It's a big drop off

36:39

maybe after the top thirteen

36:41

or fourteen. You know, you mentioned Evans, Jalen

36:44

Johnson's a really good one with the Bears, Michael Pittman,

36:46

and then there's kind of a drop off, and most of those

36:49

players probably are getting tagged like eight,

36:51

I would guess if I had to put an over under

36:54

out of those fourteen players.

36:56

But I'm with you. I think it's a good list, and I

36:58

think there's another drop off around forty, so

37:00

it feels like you could do a you know, it's

37:03

a good thing you're doing two thirteen because

37:05

it does feel deeper. I don't know

37:07

what it is with the trend of the NFL does more

37:09

players on short term contracts, is what I suspect

37:12

that there's like one hundred and forty good players,

37:14

like guys that can actually help your

37:16

team. So I think it's a deeper list and it's pretty

37:19

high quality. You're right throughout

37:21

and for the first time in a long time,

37:24

you know one and two Chris Jones

37:26

and Kirk Cousins. They could actually

37:28

change teams. You don't see that too

37:30

often.

37:31

It's uh.

37:31

I mean, I think there are years when

37:34

you kind of take a larger look at the class

37:36

of free agents and it's like, all right, we're gonna

37:38

hype this up and we're gonna talk about it a lot, but you're kind

37:40

of struggling to find real juice. But this

37:43

list is dotted with intriguing

37:45

especially on offense. I think intriguing

37:47

wide receivers, running backs, for a couple

37:50

quarterbacks out there, and right away it's

37:52

like, I look in the top ten. I look at the Chiefs

37:54

and the Vikings is having a lot of tough

37:56

decisions to make try to navigate this.

37:58

They've got right or of the top ten.

38:00

So Cousins and Hunter both have elements

38:04

in their contract that say they can't be tagged, which is amazing

38:07

for them. I mean, Hunter is gonna and

38:09

the Vikings can't afford both. And maybe that informs

38:12

whether how you know how aggressive

38:14

they are and trying to keep Kirk Cousins if they want to keep

38:16

Hunter or neither, who really knows.

38:18

And then the Jones sneid example

38:21

with a Super Bowl champion, I can't think of anything

38:23

like it. Because Chris Jones got such a big contract

38:26

last year, he doesn't have the tag number,

38:28

which would be I think under twenty million

38:30

dollars. Instead his tag numbers thirty

38:32

two. And that really raises

38:35

an interesting question with this Chiefs team that

38:38

can you sign both of these guys? Can

38:40

you sign Jones long term and tag sneed

38:42

or vice versa With

38:45

all the money they're already paying to Mahomes

38:47

and in the rest of the contract that they

38:49

they're looking at maybe adding to wide receiver, I

38:51

don't think you can and when I

38:54

think logically about it, I actually think it's more

38:56

logical that they tag

38:58

Sneid kick that canned down on the road, and

39:01

that Chris Jones might leave and they just might

39:03

realize, like you have to

39:05

make tough decisions. We've gotten the very

39:07

best out of this guy. He's getting

39:09

a little older, and we

39:12

can't tag him for thirty two and it's going to be so

39:14

hard to get him signed before free

39:16

agency starts, that actually the move is to tag

39:18

Sneed and that Chris Jones gets out

39:21

there and just makes an absolute killing

39:23

something. I kind of think that's what's going to happen.

39:25

And I know what you were saying Mark on the last show,

39:27

because I agree with you. You sometimes this free

39:29

agency when a big fish does shake

39:31

free and they sign with a bad

39:33

team looking to make a big splash.

39:36

And I mentioned how PFF has these comparison

39:39

players in recent years, and the

39:41

comparison player is exactly what you're talking about. And Dominican

39:43

Sue, who obviously the Lions were in a powerhouse when

39:45

he was there, but he was the face of that franchise. He

39:48

signs a massive deal with a kind of under

39:50

the radar struggling Dolphins operation at

39:52

that point, and he kind of like just disappeared

39:55

in a lot of ways. He was still a big time player. He was

39:57

fine, but he was It wasn't like as

40:00

if he would have went to a big time team or if the Lions figured

40:02

out around him. The interesting

40:04

thing about the Chiefs not to get off course

40:06

here, but.

40:07

No, I think they're are there to be the most interesting

40:09

conversation.

40:10

If they do say go therout.

40:12

You're talking about keep the cornerback and Snead

40:15

is so valuable in the Spags defense.

40:18

Chris Jones obviously the most valuable, but cornerbacks

40:20

and cornerbacks who could cover as a huge deal for

40:22

that day. What's great

40:24

about that being the Chiefs is even

40:27

if they just won a Super Bowl with a

40:30

great defense and Patrick Mahomes

40:32

as a game general and they found

40:34

their way back to the Lombardy, there

40:36

is a fun way where they save that money

40:39

and let Jones walk, Like you're saying, try

40:42

to find someone that can fill

40:44

at the void and then attack the offense and

40:46

build another super offense around the greatest

40:48

quarterback alive. They have like

40:51

some different angles. They can go here

40:53

and the team can end up being a lot different in

40:55

structure than the one that just won the Super Bowl.

40:58

Be interesting to see there is like that.

41:00

Again.

41:00

We mentioned like on the last show that Chris Joones

41:02

sounds like he wants to stay in Kansas

41:04

City now money and a monster deal

41:07

from some.

41:07

Everyone that like justin Bil just said that, and

41:09

he probably wants to that.

41:10

This situation is a little more special

41:12

than like certain other players sticking you know,

41:14

sticking with that Ham and Eggert type team where they've been

41:16

for a while. Like you can win more Super Bowls,

41:18

you can get paid really well in

41:20

some form of fashion. But they're in a tricky so to

41:23

my point, so if you have if you do

41:25

attack offense instead. The

41:27

Chiefs have a list like running backs for instance,

41:29

great example. I know they like their running backs, but Saquon,

41:32

Henry Jacobs, Eckler,

41:35

wide receivers, which they certainly need, Higgins,

41:37

Evans, Pittman, Ridley. These are all options

41:40

out there potentially right now anyway.

41:42

But some of these guys will be gone, but some will be out.

41:44

Evans would be a fascinating one, and people

41:47

have connected, so you too.

41:49

If they have some money to spend, like getting

41:51

that second receiver, first receiver

41:53

would would be a game changer for them.

41:55

They can create a lot

41:57

of cap space they're already well under.

42:00

They could cut mvs, they can

42:02

move the money around in Mahomes' contract,

42:05

they have some people they can cut and so they they

42:07

could make it all work. And there's a very recent

42:09

example of them letting Charvarius Ward

42:12

leave for a big contract to

42:14

San Francisco and that worked.

42:16

And they might feel that, like cornerback

42:20

is a position that they can develop and Spags

42:22

is so good at doing that that they'll let Sneed go. And I

42:24

could be totally wrong, and that they'll view Jones

42:27

is the irreplaceable one because he is more

42:29

irreplaceable. That's why his number is so

42:31

much higher. Their defensive line is quite

42:33

thin if they didn't have Chris Jones.

42:35

But it's a very it's a compelling conversation.

42:38

It's just that Sneed's so much younger that I do

42:40

wonder if they think about timeline.

42:41

But to be clear, they can't do both. They can't keep

42:44

Snead. They have a massive contract

42:46

to Jones and make big splash and free

42:48

agency on the offense.

42:49

Well, that's what I mean.

42:51

They have to make a decision, and I

42:53

can't imagine they went through this whole season, even after winning

42:55

the Super Bowl, not thinking, man, we got to

42:57

make some type of moves on offense.

42:58

I agree with that. I think they'll be aggressive

43:01

getting a wide receiver and keep

43:03

one of these two guys, but not

43:05

both. And in Steed with someone I passed

43:07

this list around in early forms, and Steed

43:11

was someone I just think if he gets free,

43:14

the league loves him. You know, He's just there's

43:16

no cornerbacks on this list. Jalen

43:18

Johnson, I'm almost certain is gonna get tagged

43:20

this Like at some positions, there's just

43:23

not any players. The two positions are cornerback

43:25

and tackle. So if Sneed did somehow

43:28

shake free, he'd make an up

43:30

scene amount of money, and I think they'd want.

43:32

To just well, that's where I like free agency to me,

43:34

feels like a bit of fools gold if you're the team

43:36

that goes and gets some of these players, because part

43:39

of Sneed's like success and journey

43:41

is how he's used by SPACs, how he fits

43:43

in that defense. I mean, not that it wouldn't translate

43:46

somewhere else, but I think if you suddenly are

43:48

the Chiefs minus, Like Chris Jones, it

43:50

becomes a gaping void where everyone

43:53

visually can realize how special he's been on that

43:55

defense.

43:56

He's just in such a good spot.

43:58

He's kind of like Kirk Cousins when he left

44:01

Washington that it's just so rare to

44:03

actually have all this leverage

44:06

where maybe they can tag him.

44:08

Maybe they just feel like, we'll let Steed go,

44:10

We'll make some moves, we'll put the thirty

44:12

two million dollars on them somehow,

44:15

and then we'll get a long term deal worked

44:17

out that lowers that number at some point.

44:21

But that number is so big because he knows

44:23

now if he could somehow get the free agency,

44:25

he's going to make more than Aaron Donald. Like he's gonna

44:27

make the most any defensive player has

44:29

ever made.

44:30

There.

44:31

The salary cap is reportedly going up to

44:33

around two hundred and fifty million dollars according

44:35

to Pro Football, Like, we don't really know. It could be anywhere from two

44:37

forty three to two fifty, but either way, it's going up

44:39

a lot.

44:41

Where else do you want to go? Greg? What jumped out to

44:43

you?

44:44

Well, let's go ten to twenty, just because that

44:46

that is more fun. Big names Daniel Hunter.

44:48

We mentioned was ten. Evans is eleven. Jalen

44:51

Johnson, I think it's gonna get tagged at

44:53

twelve. Michael Pittman, I think will also probably

44:56

get tagged with the Colts. And then it's

44:58

Tyron Smith, the only good tackle on

45:00

the market, Saquon Barkley to me, easily

45:02

the best running back on the market, Calvin

45:04

Ridley. An interesting situation where

45:07

the Jaguars get a better draft pick

45:09

or have to give away a better draft pick

45:11

if they re sign Ridley, So they're incentivized

45:14

to not sign Calvin Ridley at this point,

45:16

so a good chance he gets free. Jonathan

45:19

Gernard of the Texans, Leonard Williams,

45:21

Michael Owen U who's the highest guard

45:23

tackle I have? And then Chauncey Gardner

45:26

Johnson. That's ten to twenty. And one of the

45:28

reasons when U's up there and Tyron

45:30

Smith's up there is cause

45:32

like the two positions that they're just not on

45:34

this list our cornerback and tackle. And it just says

45:36

a lot I think about the NFL. It's like you can get

45:38

defensive tackles, you can even get defensive lineman,

45:40

but there's like no tackles, no cornerbacks

45:43

available, whatsoever, you got to get those on.

45:45

The defensive tackle is not the easiest

45:47

to find necessarily find in the drafts sometimes

45:50

as well at that one position. But one

45:52

name that stands out to me because part of this, like I

45:54

think smart free agency is keeping core people

45:56

around, especially if you have a young quarterback like

45:59

the Colts cannot let Michael Pittman go.

46:01

In my book, I don't think.

46:02

That he's a flashy number

46:04

one type of guy in all

46:06

aspects of his game, but it's like he is

46:08

imperative to what they're trying to do

46:10

on offense, what they're trying to build.

46:12

Well, it might be the worst receiver group in

46:14

the league if he's gone.

46:15

I think he's one of the more interesting cases

46:17

if he ever did get to free agency, because

46:20

he has produced even with a lot

46:22

of bad quarterback play. But he's also maybe

46:24

not a game changer necessarily,

46:26

so how possession Like again,

46:29

like where he's I would love him as

46:31

a one B or a two as opposed to paying

46:33

him like a one, especially as we're saying, like

46:35

there's so many good wide receivers coming out of the draft

46:38

every year in every round he's

46:40

a guy that you see those like Kenny

46:42

Galladay is a good example, not that they're similar

46:45

players, but where you get paid. He'll

46:47

be our number one or two, number one, and he wasn't

46:49

and then all of a sudden it doesn't work out. The guy Tyron

46:51

Smith jumps out to me, he's he's

46:53

on your list? Where is he on your list?

46:54

I think thirteen fourteen?

46:56

Like I think, for instance, my team, the Jets, are going

46:58

to be all over Tyron Smith because they're going to

47:00

want to sign a big tackle and then

47:02

draft a tackle with their pick.

47:05

And that's going to be great news for Smith because

47:07

if there's not a lot of big tackles

47:09

on the market and there's a desperate team like the Jets,

47:12

that's going to drive his market up. So he

47:14

is going to get a lot of money, maybe more than he deserves

47:16

at this point.

47:18

He last year though he stayed healthy.

47:19

It's his age, though where is he at? I think now up to

47:22

thirty five, he's going to get a lot. He's

47:24

going to get more money than you would think a thirty five

47:26

year old tackle. He's thirty

47:28

three actually, okay, my best turn thirty three.

47:30

So yeah, look, he was on the Hall of Fame All twenty

47:32

tens team. I mean, this is a guy who's probably

47:35

making the Hall of Fame someday and had really

47:37

struggled with injuries the three previous years, but he

47:39

had a healthy year this last year. I think that

47:41

he actually might get to freegency because Tyler

47:43

Smith, who they drafted is quite

47:45

good.

47:46

You know, GM Aaron is going to be all over that one.

47:48

Right, and again it's a position

47:50

that it's so bad. Michael Owen, who

47:53

for the Patriots, who can play guard

47:55

or tackle. I think he's best at right tackle. He's

47:58

going to get paid a lot of money because there's just not many

48:01

young players available. And then

48:03

after that it's just like, come on, it's

48:05

like Trent Brown, who's a bit of a

48:07

nightmare in terms of injuries

48:09

and like off field stuff where he'll have one good year

48:11

and then he becomes a headache. He's the next

48:14

guy, maybe Jonah Williams, who Bengals fans

48:16

probably are in love with, but at least he can just play

48:19

illumin or who is with the Raider.

48:21

These guys can just play as those are where

48:23

you get in trouble to sign it around.

48:26

Jonah willis right, in some fun guy

48:28

like I saw someone

48:31

I did see that had Becton, you know, like Beckton

48:34

might get some money just because he played last year

48:36

and right,

48:38

and there's no one available, so there's

48:40

some projects out there, but but those

48:42

positions get paid. You you

48:44

mentioned Pittman, I

48:46

think he will get tagged. I think Evans

48:49

will get out there, though, and it is fascinating to think,

48:51

like where could he go? And then I think of who else will

48:53

get out there at wide receiver. Marquis

48:55

Brown I think is gonna be that guy you mentioned. Not

48:57

He's not gonna be like Galladay because I think he's a good player,

49:00

but he's gonna make more than people

49:02

expect because him and Ridley they're

49:04

fast and they're available, and

49:07

you kind of need three receivers and it can

49:09

be one of your three receivers. They can be your two

49:11

or year three. They're not your one, but

49:14

a two like a Pittman is probably worth

49:16

twenty million dollars a year now, So people are gonna

49:18

have sticker shock, but Marky's Brown or

49:20

Calvin Ridley will probably get twenty million.

49:22

Well, it's like years in a row where the wide receiver paydays

49:25

for free agency have been insane. I mean, I guess you could

49:27

find a team that really needed wide

49:30

out help and you could almost pair like a Marquis Brown

49:32

with another wide receiver on the freegent market

49:34

and completely change You mean, you like

49:36

mark east Brown, but.

49:37

You want to play twenty million for Markus Brown. I'll

49:39

get a guy in the second round.

49:41

But it's kind of like when Kirk Christian Kirk got

49:43

paid seventeen million a year a couple of years ago,

49:45

and man, that looked bad at the time, and now I'm like,

49:47

actually, he's pretty dependable and

49:49

you need receivers and that's like an okay price.

49:52

That's just how it is. I think, Yeah, like.

49:53

You eyed up, no problem with you putting Higgins

49:57

above Evans. I mean, I think Higgins,

49:59

you know, they could they could tag him too if they want,

50:01

but like.

50:01

Probably will tag him. But the Bengals are such a

50:04

mysterious operation.

50:05

Is that an age thing? A little bit for you with Evans? And

50:07

like, because what I kind of wonder what kind

50:09

of contract. I think Evans

50:11

could find himself go to a playoff type team

50:13

and be in a wonderful playing situation, but

50:16

like, what do you pay him?

50:17

Slip is he thirty thirty one, thirty

50:20

one.

50:20

I mean, I don't know problem paying them

50:22

a lot of money, but it's like, is he that high?

50:24

Three years from now?

50:25

Right, he's come off one

50:27

of his best seasons in a long time. He's kind

50:29

of ages. I'm a little worried I have him too low that

50:32

he should be even higher on this list. He'll

50:35

be turning thirty one in

50:37

August. But I would guess something like a

50:40

two year fifty million dollar contract,

50:42

you know where it's a three year contract, but

50:44

it's really a two year fifty million dollar contract.

50:47

Like, I see no reason why

50:49

he wouldn't get paid. And the most surprising

50:52

buzz to me is like the last

50:54

week or two is that like, oh, the Bucks actually

50:56

aren't going to pay him. I don't know if I

50:58

totally believe that. It makes no sense to me, but that's

51:00

that's what's out there. What do you think of obj

51:03

now? As like eightieth on this

51:05

list? I have gave Davis quite high.

51:07

I like me.

51:07

Some gave Davis. Curtis Samuel's another receiver.

51:09

I think receivers are always fun to talk about.

51:11

I have Beckham on my subcategory

51:14

contract year fall stars at

51:17

least in terms of your rankings, he's

51:19

down at eighty three and his

51:21

agent, who's who deserves a

51:24

Presidential Medal of Freedom for

51:26

what he's gotten Odell Beckham compared to

51:29

the production over the last five or six

51:31

years, you

51:33

could point to again. Up by the end

51:35

of the season, he was kind of looking like Odell

51:37

again. And then you popped the hood and the analytics are

51:39

pretty good. They said that he's a

51:41

you know, a premium number two maybe wide receiver,

51:44

but somebody else can pay for him. I

51:47

know, for instance, my team was poking around before

51:49

he went to the Ravens. I hope they don't again.

51:51

I don't want like wrong side of thirty

51:53

wide receivers that are going to be commanding

51:56

a big salary when I could find somebody

51:58

in the draft instead.

52:00

I don't think you will this year.

52:01

I think he I think he's gonna play on a one year deal again,

52:03

like one year.

52:04

The rest of his career is just one year for about half.

52:06

The money that he made. But you have I

52:09

think it's a bad spot. I think I think Gabe Davis,

52:11

like you could talk yourself into there's

52:13

a lot of untapped potential, a lot of big play, but even

52:15

Darnell Mooney. I would rather have our

52:18

guest on the show, kJ Osborne, I think is kind

52:20

of a fun guy. I'd rather

52:22

go. I'd rather go young.

52:23

You have Austin Eckler by the way way

52:26

down, which is like

52:29

you have him twenty spots lower than Jameis Winston,

52:31

I believe, which is wild

52:33

to me. Uh And in general.

52:35

I overrate the backup quarterbacks. I rank

52:38

them side high.

52:39

From what I understand, this is not a great running back

52:41

draft class. So I would I would.

52:43

I would say you probably should bump up some of these

52:46

running backs. But at the same time, it is I think telling

52:48

that coming off last summer where we were all talking about

52:51

all these running backs getting banged, these stars

52:53

that aren't getting the contracts they want or

52:55

deserve. And Eckler tried to get traded, you

52:57

know, he tried to get a raise. Josh

53:00

Jacob's held out, Saquon Barkley

53:02

held out and got a ridiculous like that contract

53:05

is more ridiculous with every day they gave him this absurd

53:07

incentive deal, but he got no money

53:09

out of it. What kind of

53:11

money they get where they stack

53:14

up. Derrick Henry is out there I'm

53:16

curious. I love the idea of Derek Henry

53:18

going somewhere on the right team goodbye

53:22

more than any of those other players. I think Henry

53:24

in the right setup could

53:26

be a real dog for a team.

53:28

I had the thought because the team that's

53:30

gonna look so different on offense, I think will be the

53:32

Greg Roman Harbaugh Chargers.

53:35

Like, what about Derrick Henry behind justin

53:37

HRB?

53:37

That would be fun and I'll send him to the Chargers.

53:41

I don't know. I think they're gonna be a different type.

53:43

Now they have Jim harbaught and now things will change.

53:45

But I mean, what name of coaches want gonna

53:47

want to go find a Maulinge run.

53:49

I love it as a fit. Ye.

53:51

I struggled with where to put him in Jacobs. Jacobs

53:53

was about twenty spots Hire a year ago

53:56

had a bad year and that kind of follows

53:58

his career where three and a half yards per cars it's like

54:00

one great. It did look much better

54:02

the eye test, especially by the end. He's a great

54:04

receiver. He's a complete back. But I have him

54:06

and Henry around thirty and that's where

54:08

to me, a lot of the good value in free agency

54:11

actually comes as these one year deals

54:13

for veterans, like you could say what

54:15

you want about Clowney or even Zadarias

54:17

Smith last year, who was paid more than Clowney.

54:19

Certainly, it's like those guys who are actually bargains

54:22

compared to paying the like fourteen

54:24

to fifteen million dollars a year for some young guy,

54:26

and Derrick Henry and Jacob's to me

54:28

are like the veteran running back equivalent

54:30

to that, but they're not gonna make much money. I

54:33

think they're nice one year ads

54:35

and position scarcity

54:37

and the money is all a factor. So that's why

54:40

I have guys like Pollard and

54:42

DeAndre Swift and JK.

54:43

Dobbins.

54:43

I have them all ahead of Eckler because they're

54:46

younger. I think Dobbins didn't

54:48

look year now he did. I think Dobbins

54:51

is actually I like guys some I always

54:53

think teams should pay guys on

54:55

two year deals coming off injury, because Dobbs

54:57

could be in Dobbins could be like a nice longer

54:59

term bet, even if he's coming.

55:01

Out, Like seeing his name on this list, it's like this

55:03

stuff raises by because it's like

55:05

he's already going to free see that the

55:08

one thing I got to bring up here because you

55:10

got your QB, like you give his you give it the

55:12

positional uh chart on how you rank

55:14

these guys Obviously Kirk Cousins number

55:16

one obviously, and I know I was like, where

55:18

do you go from this?

55:19

Cause it's not like plug and play

55:21

star players.

55:22

There's a lot of help at quarterback behind him,

55:24

but you have Jacoby Brissette about Baker

55:26

Mayfield.

55:27

Yeah, that was where I just had to go with

55:29

my gut. I know I'm gonna that one is probably

55:31

gonna get the most such a move push

55:33

back of anything, but it fills

55:35

a.

55:35

Certain role for Greg that quarterback.

55:38

Yeah, good

55:41

one that's overlooked. You know what I

55:43

decided to do. Mark was kind

55:45

of split the difference. Be fair to Mayfield.

55:47

They're they're both in the top. They're right around

55:49

thirty, so it's not like they're that low in the

55:51

one oh one. I was like, if I'm gonna stand

55:54

up for Jacoby and really believe that

55:56

he's Adulton Line

55:59

type of quarterback just like I see Baker

56:01

being, which has to me a lot

56:03

of value, Like would you rather have that or would you rather

56:05

have Derek Henry? I would rather have that. I

56:07

think it's like some teams need

56:10

that. It raises the floor of your team.

56:12

So I put them right next to each other because I do

56:14

think Jake Briskett is very similar to

56:16

where Gino was a couple of years ago, where

56:18

it's like he could step in and

56:21

he could have brought your team to the playoffs. Last

56:23

year, Dan he he could have

56:26

with who with the Jets

56:28

with Hackett maybe

56:31

no, he would have improved their

56:33

team a lot.

56:34

I think that's the way.

56:35

I truly believe that's a level he's playing at. He played

56:37

it for the Browns. He looked fantastic in that Washington

56:40

He's still only thirty one, he's learned a lot.

56:42

Like to me, he's in his prime, and him

56:44

and Mayfield kind of occupy a similar space.

56:46

But ranking them versus like Robert

56:49

Hunt or you know, Gave Davis.

56:51

Is kind of impossible.

56:52

It's kind of hard to you could where to put it, like a

56:54

mid level quarterback. But that's where I truly believe

56:57

Jake Briskett belongs that he's better

56:59

than a de amount of corn.

57:00

And you could argue because both of them played in the same offense

57:03

that Stefanski had more success, you

57:05

know, ultimately with Jacoby

57:07

than he did with Baker.

57:08

Jamis being your number five free agent

57:10

quarterback is hilarious. Donald's

57:13

he's Donald Tyler. Huntley

57:15

is just personal and I'll be.

57:17

A bigger some of those I'll be a bigger man.

57:19

To be fair, Donald's moved up some

57:22

of those some of those position ones you're looking

57:24

at are a little off. He is on my long

57:27

list of one oh one, whereas Huntley is not. So

57:29

Donald has overtaken him. That might

57:31

have been congratulations.

57:36

That means it's time to take a break, or

57:39

is there breaking news? What's happening back there, Funk?

57:42

But really feel in the space right now?

57:44

Well, I

57:46

thought you wanted me to play it every time you mentioned one on one,

57:48

and I've kind of been.

57:50

That was I was good.

57:51

Actually, I think it added some excitement.

57:53

And then earlier you were like you were

57:55

like you made the little DJ LIBB effects.

57:57

So I have to take a little bit.

58:00

Listen, Funk, explore the space back

58:02

there. You're doing. Appreciate that. Let's take a break,

58:05

and when we come back, we will finish our conversation

58:07

on the top of.

58:07

One the quick that, like people don't realize

58:09

we don't take we we say we're taking

58:12

a break, and then we start talking one second later.

58:14

In real life, you told the audience that like two weeks ago.

58:16

I know, but it remains on my radar as

58:18

a problematic for us.

58:20

I would think, mark you, the last thing you would

58:22

want to do is take a break and

58:26

in the office.

58:26

You're right, because we could start to take a break

58:28

if you felt like it was like not authentic, take

58:31

a go wasperiance.

58:32

I just think it seems like but I mean, you know, with

58:35

the listeners, but during that break, you have to

58:37

listen to your desire, no ad.

58:38

Read scrap all

58:41

that we could actually, we could keep you

58:43

here an extra fifteen minutes if we take authentic break.

58:45

Negative, No, all

58:48

right, we'll be right back. All

58:51

right, we're back, and yes we are. If you're just

58:53

joining us, this is going deep.

58:56

Rosenthal one oh one, not to be confused

58:58

with the hands of cessler tooth. Thir team

59:01

is coming on the doorstep

59:04

of free agency next month. Greg,

59:07

let's get back into it. Let's dive in. So

59:10

here's so QB's we just talked about

59:12

running backs. There's some really big names there

59:14

and a draft class that's not high

59:17

on RB talent being told what is the

59:19

what's a positional group?

59:20

If you're a team that needs

59:22

to plug a position where

59:25

you're very excited because there's a lot of depth.

59:27

As always, there's a ton of interesting

59:29

quality safeties just teams just don't play

59:31

safeties. They always feel like they can find them

59:34

or replace them. But I think the linebacker

59:36

discussion is probably more interesting because

59:39

there are a lot of players available

59:43

that are plug and play, mostly

59:45

three down linebackers in their

59:48

primes that are going to start

59:50

next year, so that it's one of the only positions

59:52

where you can look at and say, wow, there's a lot of

59:54

guys that will I think get big contracts.

59:57

Patrick Queen is one of them, coming from bald

1:00:00

It's more Frankie Louvu from Carolina

1:00:02

who's kind of been a gem, you know, diamond in the

1:00:04

rough there but it's played really well. Jordan

1:00:06

Brooks, who was a first round pick. Bobby

1:00:09

Wagner's out there, Devin White, a

1:00:11

couple of the Chiefs linebackers,

1:00:14

Willie Gabe, Drew tranquill As, he's Alshai

1:00:16

here who I really like for Tennessee. So a

1:00:19

lot of linebackers and it's kind of a question

1:00:21

of like it's a position

1:00:23

that went really out of favor to

1:00:26

the point where like teams almost ignored

1:00:28

it, and now I wonder is it gonna start

1:00:30

coming back in because we've seen these teams

1:00:32

like Baltimore and San Francisco and

1:00:35

even Kansas City has done a good job with their linebackers.

1:00:37

Like if you have a three down

1:00:40

linebacker, it's such an advantage because no one else does.

1:00:42

And it's so hard to get these guys up

1:00:44

to speed that a lot of I tend

1:00:46

to think these guys like Queen and Louvu

1:00:49

and Brooks, they're just coming into their prime.

1:00:51

They had some major ups and downs the

1:00:53

first couple of years because you have to learn coverage,

1:00:55

and I think they will start getting paid

1:00:57

in this market. I really struggled

1:01:00

with where to put them.

1:01:01

And Frankie Luvu like to

1:01:03

me, every time you watch the Panthers, he's

1:01:05

doing something and he's like the kind of perfect

1:01:07

free agent pick up for me, because it's

1:01:10

like you're not gonna have to blow the market to get him,

1:01:12

but he's gonna be productive. We got to do

1:01:14

you have any concern because Patrick Queen

1:01:16

I thought was underwhelming for

1:01:19

big chunks of.

1:01:19

His time, then they didn't pick up your

1:01:22

options.

1:01:22

But Smith comes in and completely transformed

1:01:25

very queen space on the field. So if

1:01:27

you go and is that kind of like a classic,

1:01:29

he's gonna get a ton of money and then he doesn't

1:01:32

shine the way you.

1:01:33

Very possibly unless it's Mike McDonald and Seattle

1:01:35

giving it to him, and I would just like trust him.

1:01:38

I don't feel good about that ranking and that

1:01:40

feeling because I don't like how

1:01:42

these rankings often and teams pay just

1:01:45

off the contract year instead of looking at the

1:01:47

froll four years, you know what I mean, or the average

1:01:49

year that they have. And he's someone who's definitely

1:01:52

like peeking at the right time.

1:01:53

And I give it up to him because he really

1:01:55

did have a good year, even if he didn't get the ten

1:01:57

sacks. But you Davin Clowney is

1:02:00

another guy with uh with

1:02:02

Patrick Queen. Yeah, the Mike McDonald effect, like

1:02:04

he was a perfect scheme deployed the

1:02:06

right way and you saw their games jump up. Would

1:02:08

that take place with a different team.

1:02:10

It is fun to rank, Like see where Clowney's ranking

1:02:13

go every year, just gets like a little bit lower,

1:02:15

even though he had a great year. He's now forty

1:02:17

one. He's right next to Levante David. He's the

1:02:19

perfect like Levante, might I set the record one

1:02:21

year of one value?

1:02:23

Yeah?

1:02:24

Right?

1:02:24

Like how I'm sure someone's tracking

1:02:26

this, Like what player non

1:02:28

special teams has

1:02:31

the most one year contracts. He's got

1:02:33

to be up to about five now.

1:02:34

Yeaes Sue had a bunch in a row at the end

1:02:36

of his career. I think a similar

1:02:39

type of player. And uh, that's

1:02:41

so, there's a lot of players like that that are like, wow,

1:02:43

they could really help you. But it's just like, just give

1:02:46

him one year and you'll help your

1:02:48

team this year, Like a

1:02:50

wait, one more linebacker ahead.

1:02:51

One more linebacker. You didn't mention there?

1:02:54

I don't think you did. Was Levante David? Yes,

1:02:56

it was up there in years. But obviously he's one

1:02:58

of the great linebackers and Bucks history.

1:03:00

He could still great cover linebacker,

1:03:02

which is so important. Obviously,

1:03:05

even with his age, he has all the instincts. Still

1:03:08

there is a very real world where

1:03:10

the Bucks don't have Levonte d David

1:03:13

or Mike Evans on the field in

1:03:15

September like that. That's pretty wild. There the

1:03:18

page into a new era

1:03:20

in Bucks football.

1:03:21

And Devin White, who you know, when you think of that that super

1:03:23

Bowl team, he made the All Pro team back then

1:03:25

and he was almost on his way. It felt

1:03:28

like to becoming a superstar. Yes,

1:03:30

and I have him ranked really

1:03:32

low because he just seems like he drives

1:03:34

the coaches.

1:03:35

They're crazy.

1:03:36

And I think it'll be controversy last year,

1:03:38

the last couple of years really or whatever.

1:03:40

And I tend to think they will. They

1:03:43

will keep Levante David as they did a year

1:03:45

ago. He was a free agent a year ago, and

1:03:47

that'll say a lot that they're happy to just let

1:03:50

uh Devin White go. The you

1:03:53

mentioned Clowney. That is one position

1:03:55

where it's like, man, there's a lot

1:03:57

of good defensive like defensive

1:03:59

end, offensive lineman of bille. If you need like five

1:04:01

hundred quality snaps

1:04:04

out of interior or

1:04:07

defensive end, that's I think where

1:04:09

the sweet spot is in free

1:04:11

agency.

1:04:12

I love some of these guys like Andrew van Ginkel.

1:04:14

I really like that he's great.

1:04:16

He'd be a good signing, like you know, like I

1:04:18

thought Zadarius Smith was a huge difference

1:04:20

maker across from Miles Garrett and Cleveland. And if you

1:04:22

go back, if you're the Browns and you don't resign

1:04:25

him and you don't find someone to go do that same

1:04:27

thing.

1:04:27

That defense is completely mar.

1:04:29

But you can't. That's a good thing for a team like them,

1:04:31

Like you can find someone whether it's there's

1:04:33

a lot about him or it's like a Leonard Floyd

1:04:36

Klay. Dj Wanham was an okay player

1:04:38

for Minnesota, Like there are players your

1:04:40

guy, Bryce Huff I think is gonna

1:04:42

be an interesting guy to watch. I struggled

1:04:44

with where to put him because all he

1:04:46

does is win when it comes to like past

1:04:49

win rate is like godlike. And yeah,

1:04:51

he pops off the screen too. He just is

1:04:53

so explosive. Yet

1:04:56

you know, he never earned the full trust to get

1:04:58

like, you know, fifty snaps a game. I'm not

1:05:01

sure why that is, but I think he's gonna

1:05:03

make a lot of money. So they didn't because he's young.

1:05:04

Based on the playing time that Jets

1:05:07

staff didn't trust

1:05:09

him against the run. So if he is somebody

1:05:12

that's limited in that in that respect

1:05:15

and and that doesn't develop, then

1:05:17

you're paying for like just a pure pass

1:05:19

rusher. And how much money? How much money does he get? Like

1:05:21

he is a guy I fear because

1:05:24

they they made the mistake. I thought of taking Will

1:05:26

McDonald last year when they had so much

1:05:28

depth at defensive

1:05:30

line, and now they're probably gonna

1:05:32

let Huff walk because they have this first round

1:05:35

pick that they need to develop. A team

1:05:37

could get a guy that's like an eighteen sack guy

1:05:39

and and if he develops in the other end

1:05:41

of the game, he's an all pro. So I think

1:05:43

he's a guy like give me give me a chance

1:05:45

on Huff if I'm a team out there more than

1:05:48

pay big money for Chase Young who

1:05:50

a little bit maybe of issues I think voter

1:05:53

and the health issues with the surgery. Like give

1:05:55

me a guy with upside. I think West used to talk about that

1:05:58

with Fantasy sports a lot, and probably

1:06:00

maybe it holds for this, like give me the upside

1:06:03

shot of a guy being a real stud rather

1:06:05

than kind of paying a premium

1:06:07

for a guy that has a much lower floor.

1:06:09

And the Jets are not in great cap situation

1:06:12

at the moment either, so it's like, how would

1:06:14

they value the Huff thing?

1:06:15

Right?

1:06:15

Jonathan Garnard is another guy who get

1:06:18

paid a lot of money off the edge. There's a lot of

1:06:20

different options there. You mentioned Wes

1:06:22

see the Jacoby Preset thing. This is where I need

1:06:24

Wes for. You asked, how long have I

1:06:26

been doing it. I did it for a few years before

1:06:28

coming here, one year without west

1:06:31

here, and then you know, we would have our battles,

1:06:33

we would have our two lists, we would bring them

1:06:35

together. I still got some of those lists

1:06:38

from west Son saved on my you know,

1:06:40

laptop and my Google docs and everything.

1:06:43

And he would know I would

1:06:45

like Jacoby too much, so then he would purposely

1:06:48

rank him even lower than he wanted to

1:06:50

even it out. And I can't argue with the

1:06:52

checks and balances are I'll.

1:06:53

Never forget the jams. Who was founded on the jamis

1:06:56

Winston Marcus Mariota battles

1:06:58

between Lesson.

1:07:00

I'm not sure who won that.

1:07:01

We both lost in the end. I think the

1:07:03

listeners lost well.

1:07:04

According to your rankings, he's one of the top free

1:07:06

agents out there.

1:07:07

He is ninety.

1:07:08

If there's something I stand

1:07:11

on the hill and Ryan Tannehill's there too,

1:07:13

that a backup quarterback is

1:07:16

worth a lot. It's worth maybe more

1:07:18

than a replacement level safe

1:07:21

or like a rotational linebacker.

1:07:24

And I think they're underpaid. So that's I rank

1:07:26

them that way that to me, they're more important. I struggled

1:07:29

with where to put Minshew, Where to put Josh Dobbs.

1:07:31

She is low, min She's a little low. He's

1:07:35

just reliable.

1:07:36

I mean like he'shead

1:07:38

and a career loser. And one guy is stepped in

1:07:40

in a nice job last year. How

1:07:43

could they be so different?

1:07:44

There's different They're right next to each other on

1:07:46

the list.

1:07:47

But why is the guy that really stepped in and

1:07:49

did well last year behind the guy

1:07:51

that went into victory formation

1:07:53

and called a touchdown run.

1:07:55

I'm not I'm not knocking him respectfully,

1:07:58

Minshew. I think if you peak

1:08:01

behind the he actually finished the season playing well,

1:08:03

but I don't think he was playing that well.

1:08:04

Most of it was fine.

1:08:06

Jamis. Jamis has been a productive player,

1:08:08

is still relatively young. I think he's more talented. They're

1:08:10

close, though, but if you need a backup, though, there's a million

1:08:12

flavors.

1:08:13

Jamis Dobbs was out there.

1:08:15

Who's probably gonna end up on the one oh

1:08:17

one once the tags happened because he's

1:08:19

right outside. Tyrod actually played pretty well.

1:08:22

Darnold's out there, Mason Rudolph's out there,

1:08:24

Drew Locks out there. There's like kind of all

1:08:27

of those lives.

1:08:27

Is Tyana Hill.

1:08:28

Too good to be a backup? I mean, does he

1:08:30

take a starter's job away if there's issues?

1:08:32

I mean I kind of liked him.

1:08:33

Maybe I over think he's like the Baker this year

1:08:35

where he's going to sign somewhere where he was a chance.

1:08:38

I would have had him way.

1:08:40

I did a list earlier in

1:08:42

August, like before the season, and he

1:08:44

was so much higher. So was one of his old

1:08:46

teammates, Christian Fulton, who's in my top

1:08:49

twenty. And his

1:08:51

play this year spooked

1:08:53

me a little bit that like, oh yeah, this guy is

1:08:55

thirty six years.

1:08:56

Old and he gets seen moment

1:08:58

well, but behind a terirball offensive line

1:09:00

with a lack of skilled positions.

1:09:03

Absolutely, but I just started to thinking, Okay,

1:09:05

maybe he's reaching that Matt Ryan part

1:09:07

of the career. Not everyone's going to be Aaron

1:09:10

Rodgers. And you know, before

1:09:12

this year and playing so great at thirty seven,

1:09:14

thirty's.

1:09:14

Still if I were Pittsburgh and I know that there they've got

1:09:16

their whatever they're doing over there. But like you

1:09:19

just pick up Tannehill paring with Arthur Smith and there

1:09:21

you go.

1:09:22

Right, why not?

1:09:24

I mean, do more.

1:09:25

Well, do more also, but I'm

1:09:27

saying they'll do nothing. Route It's like

1:09:29

there's a ton of OUs in the closet.

1:09:31

By the way, a lot of listeners reached out about

1:09:34

the summer. What is the summer in

1:09:36

a day? The Ray

1:09:38

Bradbury tail

1:09:41

about the poor girl locked in the closet, and

1:09:43

now all Pittsburgh fans locked in that closet

1:09:45

wanting to be let out to see the sunshine.

1:09:48

He really connected with the with the listeners, they.

1:09:50

Really think I have to think about the entire

1:09:52

story again to even understand why

1:09:54

this applies to the Steelers.

1:09:56

But she used to be on Earth

1:09:58

and she saw the sun regular that was the

1:10:01

right peak be big Ben. Yeah, she

1:10:03

knew what it looked like to see in an exciting

1:10:05

offense in Pittsburgh, and now she's

1:10:07

in this other world planet.

1:10:09

Who are the other girls locking the Steelers

1:10:11

in the closet? The GM

1:10:14

okay, okay, the Steelers themselves,

1:10:16

the.

1:10:16

Girls, the Steelers fans or the football

1:10:19

viewer?

1:10:20

Yeah what Randy, Sorry,

1:10:22

I'm sorry that was Nixon.

1:10:23

No, don't tell us that.

1:10:25

I just liked it. It was good.

1:10:27

It was yeah, So let us

1:10:29

say, you know, Mason Rudolph probably is holding

1:10:31

that door closed, and sure, I'm sure he has

1:10:33

a role in it.

1:10:34

Venus is closer to the sun. That's all. I

1:10:36

don't get the I can'cel.

1:10:37

Take it up with the estate of Ray

1:10:39

Bradberry he passed away in two thousand.

1:10:41

I mean, he had a firm grasp on science fiction. So I'm

1:10:44

not gonna go nuts with it.

1:10:45

But one of the things you

1:10:47

noticed doing this exercise, what teams pop up

1:10:50

a lot early in this list and for such

1:10:52

a terrible roster. I was like, man,

1:10:54

a lot of the Patriots best players are free agents

1:10:56

now, like they are in a tough spot. Kyle

1:10:58

Duggar is a top twenty five player on this

1:11:00

list. There's some dis I'm a little

1:11:02

lower in him than some others, but I still

1:11:05

like him. He's a big playmaker on When You is

1:11:07

one of the best offensive linemen

1:11:09

on the list. Trent Brown is one of the best offensive linemen

1:11:11

on this Hunter Henry is my number two tight

1:11:14

end on this list, but behind Dalton

1:11:16

Schultz. It's like this is a bad roster that's about

1:11:18

to get work.

1:11:19

You could see every one of those players going somewhere else.

1:11:21

We do think they all were maybe

1:11:23

Dugger. I don't even know.

1:11:25

We need to come up with a list of

1:11:28

overly familiar free agency

1:11:30

one O one names. It would have like Hunter, Henry

1:11:33

curt Of, Samuel. I'm

1:11:36

not saying they're bad players. I feel like we're always

1:11:38

talking about these guys.

1:11:39

Leonard Williams is now become

1:11:41

a somewhat regular.

1:11:43

I do wonder with New England because they got the second most

1:11:45

cap from in the league, like new

1:11:47

leadership. What do you do there? Like, are you gonna

1:11:49

spend it on the market? I hope you need to.

1:11:52

I have a feeling Robert Crafts has

1:11:54

this storyline in his head in New England

1:11:56

that he doesn't spend money.

1:11:57

Sorry, is this the rainfall sound effect?

1:12:00

Yeah? He talked about not seeing the sun, so

1:12:03

I was looking for rain I.

1:12:04

Don't like that we have to make it like five minutes

1:12:06

every time. I like it, though. I

1:12:09

just like having random sounds.

1:12:11

Viny at this, thank you,

1:12:13

thank you for that, you're

1:12:15

doing great fun anything

1:12:18

else? I want to say the one oh one number

1:12:20

one on one. Oh.

1:12:21

Yeah, I did want to talk about this. I really

1:12:23

debated it. I was thinking of like

1:12:25

it this year. This is not a final list

1:12:27

either, so you guys can have some influence if

1:12:29

you want. Michael Thomas

1:12:32

is the choice right now.

1:12:33

I mean, this is the guy that does He hold the all

1:12:35

time single season catch record.

1:12:37

Still feels like four years, four thousand years.

1:12:39

It feels that way, but I think it was twenty nineteen. He was

1:12:41

the offensive player of the year, a lot of injuries, finally

1:12:43

stayed somewhat healthy last year and is no

1:12:45

longer the guy, but as a

1:12:48

one o.

1:12:48

One a little bit of a like locker

1:12:50

room menis yeah, I mean

1:12:53

more than a little bit aw.

1:12:54

Some issues, I believe, nothing too serious.

1:12:56

He has spent

1:12:59

a decent amount of this offseason. I've

1:13:01

I've held back on bringing up on the show burying

1:13:04

Derek Carr again like it's happened more.

1:13:07

That was now a month ago, but he

1:13:09

made it very clear to the point Derek Carr like

1:13:11

had to respond while like doing some sponsor

1:13:14

obligation in a locker New Orleans and

1:13:16

just said, I want the best for Mike. I don't

1:13:18

know, you know why he's doing this more or less.

1:13:20

So whoever, whoever gets Michael Tomas,

1:13:23

you better hope that he likes your quarterback. But

1:13:25

he's like, for instance, I know this isn't how you do the

1:13:27

one on one because there's a little like Twitter

1:13:29

and the lack of punctuation, little winking

1:13:32

nod to the whole thing. Yes, you need to

1:13:34

find that heart

1:13:37

that that wouldn't move the needle.

1:13:38

Ness should have been jamis okay.

1:13:40

So I thought about Minchew. I

1:13:42

thought about but I wanted Minschew a little

1:13:44

higher on the list.

1:13:45

He's gotten would have been wasn't one

1:13:48

one year?

1:13:48

Gino was one on one, which, in hindsight, way

1:13:51

too low, way too low.

1:13:53

Gonna put Teddy Bridgewater on this list this year? How

1:13:55

mad did it?

1:13:58

It was sad, but he's helping the of

1:14:00

America.

1:14:00

I thought Josh Dobbs would be a fun one on

1:14:02

one, but I tend to do that where it's always

1:14:05

some like uh out of lett,

1:14:07

you know, kind of like field quarterback.

1:14:10

And I thought Michael Thomas was a nice change of paying.

1:14:12

Have Austin Eckler at ninety two. I

1:14:15

understand why that's so

1:14:17

low. That's he's almost off the list. Greg,

1:14:20

Well, he won't be saying, all right, I did not check

1:14:23

this out of curiosity. I'm going to check one of your competitors.

1:14:25

I won't. I won't say what it is that seems I

1:14:27

feel like Wes he's back on that ninety

1:14:29

is.

1:14:30

What is Eckler giving you right now? That

1:14:32

he's a Devin singletary, isn't

1:14:34

who's not on the list for He's.

1:14:35

Maybe the best pass catching running back

1:14:37

in the league outside of McCaffrey. And I

1:14:39

know he didn't look great last year, but maybe he was beat

1:14:42

up. I mean ninety two I was.

1:14:44

I have a list from a metric

1:14:46

site that we mentioned previously.

1:14:48

He's at fifty six, okay on their list.

1:14:50

Live with that. I could live with fifty six.

1:14:53

Where the comp is Dion Lewis.

1:14:55

Where in the eighteen where's Josh Jacobs

1:14:57

on your list?

1:14:58

He's second thirty two or something.

1:15:00

He had average three and a half yards of carry last year.

1:15:03

Got more juice, move is better.

1:15:04

He did get better after McDaniels left, and then

1:15:06

he got hurt again.

1:15:07

Eckler's had a lot of wear and

1:15:09

tear on a relatively

1:15:12

small.

1:15:12

Body and just no tell Matt Harmon about this.

1:15:14

I'm using my I'm telling Harmon right

1:15:17

now, I

1:15:19

do a show together.

1:15:20

It's some of those plays that you called out

1:15:22

Dan during the season.

1:15:24

Yeah, the piano on his back.

1:15:25

Lack of explosiveness with a running back

1:15:28

I found, you don't want to chase him.

1:15:30

Yeah, damn piano on his back.

1:15:32

You got to take that.

1:15:33

Yeah, with running backs, you don't want to chase

1:15:35

the rebound. At age twenty nine, I

1:15:37

think it's.

1:15:38

A sensible contract.

1:15:39

It's safer to just be like, okay that

1:15:41

I wouldn't mind him in like a committee situation.

1:15:43

Two years with the club option and maybe he

1:15:45

was dealing with things and he comes back

1:15:48

rejuvenated. I

1:15:50

just think that's almost off the one on one

1:15:53

extreme.

1:15:53

I'll move him up a little yet.

1:15:55

Like literally like forty touchdowns the

1:15:57

previous two years, didn't have any season

1:15:59

career derailing injury.

1:16:01

All Right, I might move him up at six

1:16:03

spots in favor Packers guard

1:16:05

John Runyon and Jets safety

1:16:08

Jordan Whitehead.

1:16:09

It is really annoying.

1:16:10

Whitehead has a nose for the football.

1:16:12

These guards keep them behind white Head.

1:16:14

Ranking these guards because like finding out

1:16:16

who likes what guards or what the league like,

1:16:18

and just like pretending I really have

1:16:21

a hot takeout of John Simpson, who's

1:16:24

in my top fifty, and Lloyd Cushion Berry, who's

1:16:26

a nice young center. But it's like, you

1:16:29

guys are fine with one on one. You're fine with Michael Thomas.

1:16:31

I guess because he's.

1:16:32

Yes, No, I think this other one.

1:16:33

It's actually kind of hurting his value because

1:16:35

in the end, with players getting taken

1:16:37

off and added, like, it'll be like the he

1:16:39

should be like eight eighties.

1:16:41

I would put him in the eighties and put Jamis

1:16:43

at one on one, but we're not going to fight that battle.

1:16:46

Jamis isn't a fun one on one. Michael Thomas

1:16:48

is fun.

1:16:49

Okay.

1:16:50

You know what I did this year. I made sure

1:16:52

to check that free agent kicker list and

1:16:54

have respect for the position,

1:16:56

and I realized quite an underrated

1:16:59

kicker is worthy. He's in my top

1:17:01

ninety Kyami Fairbard

1:17:03

shout out to oh yeah, keep along, Miami Fairman.

1:17:05

Maybe he should be even higher.

1:17:07

Where do you have him?

1:17:08

Uh, he's like in the top ninety.

1:17:13

Oh just got cut a year ago. If you've

1:17:15

been annoying with as a kicker

1:17:18

within a year, then I you

1:17:20

don't make the top one hundred. But Kyamie Fairman has

1:17:22

been awesome in the last two years. I

1:17:24

feel like he deserves it.

1:17:25

Greg the leg zerline was a monster this

1:17:27

special year. I didn't realize he's in free agency.

1:17:29

He's a free agency.

1:17:31

Got to lock him up. We got tagg his ass.

1:17:33

Yeah, they probably will give Fairman a nice

1:17:36

little deal, big bone.

1:17:37

Randy's out there. Dick

1:17:40

or the Kicker he is not.

1:17:42

He would have been. I honestly would have put Dick or

1:17:44

the Kicker in the top fifty or something.

1:17:47

But he's one of those fake exclusive

1:17:49

right now. Oh yeah, he has no

1:17:52

actual bargaining all.

1:17:53

Right, anything else, Greg, I think you did an excellent job.

1:17:56

Minor quibbles overall. Certainly

1:17:58

it's going to seem complete when compared

1:18:00

to the free agency two thirteen. But honestly,

1:18:03

uh, that's just that's not

1:18:05

even your fault. That's more our our

1:18:07

ambition towering over all rival.

1:18:09

And we and you know, according to our plan, we need

1:18:12

to probably get to work in the next hour or two on that.

1:18:14

Oh, send the bots the box stork,

1:18:16

you know.

1:18:17

Scheduling Note, we're not scheduled to be back

1:18:19

till Tuesday. There'll be NFL

1:18:21

combine. We'll be talking about all those press

1:18:24

conference. But you guys have a long weekend

1:18:26

in front of you. Of just in the lab

1:18:29

watch and tape works.

1:18:30

A couple It's a couple of dropdowns and then an

1:18:32

enter click, and then we we go get

1:18:34

a couple of beers, and we come back and most

1:18:36

of the work's done quite frankly beautiful.

1:18:38

Yeah, that's how it works.

1:18:40

I think, Well, it's

1:18:42

gonna work fun.

1:18:43

Does it comb? Does it literally comb through the

1:18:45

Internet and grab bits and pieces of everyone else?

1:18:47

I mean it will probably grab some of Greg's

1:18:49

so that's what we're gonna have to be careful of.

1:18:51

Well, we'll replace some of the more obvious bits

1:18:53

of plagiarism with a little Sessler flair.

1:18:55

I love it.

1:18:56

I would like, uh, thank you, n

1:18:59

I would like to c ana I bought try

1:19:01

to generate an average Mark Sessler,

1:19:05

but that.

1:19:07

We're going to supplement the AI

1:19:10

with some seslerisms.

1:19:12

Really just to sneak it past, you know, editorial

1:19:14

to a couple of keywords and

1:19:16

they believe that we've done all the work.

1:19:17

I come in with a happy Gilmore reference.

1:19:20

Dan's back to his old tricks.

1:19:22

It's like, hey, what about Live

1:19:24

Like they really bang themselves by calling

1:19:26

themselves live before the Internet.

1:19:28

You know. I make a couple like Logan Roy references

1:19:31

here and there send

1:19:35

glory. Glory

1:19:37

is ours? All right, Randy, you did a nice job. Who's

1:19:40

the Kendall Roy of the free agency list?

1:19:44

Mm hmm, it's a good one to think about, all

1:19:46

right, Randy, get back to us in exactly one week.

1:19:48

Thank you for filling in my pleasure, all

1:19:51

right till Monday.

1:19:54

Tuesday he the call.