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They around the NFL podcast

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once to get a haircut with Tom

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Brady from the Chris Westling

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podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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I am Mystic Damn

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Hansis and I'm joined by heroes

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Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.

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Right before we started, Mark was making a

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joke instead of Cabo.

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He said Cabo, and everyone freaked

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behind the glass and in front of it.

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Sorry, I'm not you know, you know, three times

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a month traveling outside of the country for some flighty

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vacation.

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We were there is this some type of internal

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gathering here where I think they're going to Cambo, but

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we weren't even invited.

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We've got that week.

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We have now aged out, slashed

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a slash, kind of been out of the mix up within

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this building that no one's even checking

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and kicking the tires on the old heroes

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whether they.

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Want to be involved.

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I don't like what I don't I don't have any problem

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with not being invited, becaus it makes a lot of sense,

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but it never is that we wouldn't be

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any fun, and I don't find that assumption

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correct. If you put us down and you know, you

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can fill in the foot on the blank island or locale.

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I think we could bring fun.

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Mark trying to rebuild his reputation

1:14

once the rebound from the tough start of the show.

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Yeah, I say some words

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differentely have a constantly critique for.

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It

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feels like a lot's gone on since we

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last did a show.

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It's one of those type things.

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Jordan Rodrigue was a huge hit done

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around the NFC. We kept telling her, Jill,

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you're doing great, Listeners are going to love

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you, and sure enough, like a huge

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outpouring out there in

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the Internet that Jordan is.

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As a killer in studio

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guest.

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And we should have her again a groundswell soon, and

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I believe we will in time. Let's

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see what else happened. Mark went

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to the Tom Brady roast. We're going to get

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to that in a little bit.

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Greggie.

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I know you like Wrap Drake

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and Kendrick Lamar. They've been feuding for days.

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We missed that. We missed that window. We could add

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so much discourse.

2:10

For weeks, but we didn't miss it. It sort of was still

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going as of last night.

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So this would be well to how he subtly corrected me

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to let the rap heads know that he gets it.

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I just say it like it. I actually

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it did feel like last night was maybe

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the end of it. So now you know, it's a sight.

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I feel like we missed, but maybe

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it's been for weeks. But I feel like right after the

2:29

show ended, Drake and Kendrick.

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Yes Thursday night, it was let's yeah,

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let's turn this.

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Into a wildfire and put the guys in a tough spot as

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happens with the news sometimes.

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That was their main motivation. That was it.

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I was like, where are you going with this? Because not much football

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news happened in between. But yes, you know, now.

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The free agency is in the rear view, the draft

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is in the rear view, rookie camps

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underway, OTA's and

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all that other stuff.

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It's coming up.

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What what's left like with these teams

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when you look at these rosters, they

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now have their opportunity, these teams,

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they have their opportunity to.

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Plug all the holes. But have

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they That's the question.

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And we're going to get into teams where there's

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still stuff hanging out there. There's still question

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marks around these rosters. So we'll

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get into that. But but first, but first,

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anything Greg here, I got you in the corner

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of my eye. Do you want to lookover.

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No, I'm good. Let's do some

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news, Ronk.

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I've been watching on Fox NFL Sunday and

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I'm begging you please stop

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doing your job.

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Bill Belichick at the Tom Brady Roast.

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That's courtesy of Netflix. Mark.

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What was the vibe there at the Fabulous Forum?

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It's pretty wild.

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I was telling Greg beforehand that it reminded

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me of even when we've gone to whether

3:54

it's like Thursday night football here and at

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SOFI or the Super Bowl, We're like when

3:58

you watch it the Televisi copylater, like

4:01

the halftime show looks completely different, Like parts

4:03

of the game look completely different, things that you just wouldn't

4:05

see being there as a human. Like I had that feeling

4:08

with this because it was a wild rackus setting.

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I was up in the not the cheap seats,

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but close so you couldn't really see.

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You got these as a gift right to take?

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Yeah, what are your thoughts and maybe

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whoever got them for you? Not going that extra

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mile getting a little closer to the stage. Let's

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stop down just to talk about that a little bit.

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That's that wasn't my main takeaway.

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Like I kind of liked, you know, I think

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the price increased drastically as you try to get

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closer to that. All right, I'm sorry, age,

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but yeah, like okay, I'll think about that.

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I'm definitely pulled

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some favors here and gotten probably up.

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I was actually asked verse why

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that didn't happen so and it was not a

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critique. It was more just and ample questions, like I

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don't know anyone at this company anymore.

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Let's start there. I know, like six mark this company

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bigger, bigger.

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I also, you know, I don't if you get a surprise,

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you don't want to then try to rate it.

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And it

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wasn't a electric atmosphere.

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And I think the one thing that I noticed besides like what is

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this going to be a bunch of like transplanted

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Patriots fans And we

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were sitting near like a flock of like drunken,

5:10

angry Giants fans who were like rasing

5:12

Tom Brady from the bleachers and the states.

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So it was kind of a wild crowd up where we

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were, and I think about richer and more wealthy as

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you got closer to the stage. Right

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fun time, there wasn't like it was three

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hours long, Like there wasn't a down moment.

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I thought that those things are typically good, but they nailed

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it like over and over, and I thought the one thing, I

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thought like it was good

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for the Patriots too, because like suddenly you're in

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this moment where it's like Bill Belichick and

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Brady were coaxed up to do a shot

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together Robert Kraft, who took a number

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of strays early in the show.

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Including one that led Tom Brady to actually

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threaten the roastmaster

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General Jeff Ross.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, I assume that's

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like the kind of thing we didn't catch sitting where we're seeming

5:53

to be on TV. I released, it caused a big stir, but

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they it's like all these patriots were there and after

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like the documentary that came out and stuff, it seemed

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to do a lot more to honor the Patriots

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in a weird, roundabout way than that documentary. Like

6:05

they all seemed much happier to do this, even

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though at the times, like the look on Tom Brady's face

6:09

seemed like, maybe stop mentioning

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Giselle for the four hundredth time, and what's

6:14

been taken from either of our fortunes.

6:16

I think that's, yeah, part of the reason why

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I wasn't interested in watching it

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live because I think Claybehn

6:23

made the point and I did too. I've avoided a lot

6:25

of this post Patriots after glow

6:28

the productions because I just don't need more Patriots

6:30

like there's if you're a Patriots fan, you're all over it.

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If you don't have any type of complicated.

6:34

Relationship with the Patriots, maybe if you just love it because

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it's football content. I was perfectly

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fine with, you know, seeing what came out in

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Twitter, and there was some you know, good stuff

6:43

out there, some funny lines, and I

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thought Belichick, you know, he

6:48

he had a good one or one written for

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him where he talked

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about, you know that he was at this roast

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and he mentioned that the that

6:58

aforementioned Patriots ten part

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documentary was also like the Bill

7:02

Belichick rot, which any the crowd

7:04

kind of got into. Uh. I have

7:06

some insider reporting. I want to get out

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there at a T

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a.

7:11

T media insiders insider

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damn can go

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to the zoos in

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the morning, except no substitutes.

7:20

All right, So being an insider

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comes with responsibility. It

7:28

comes with important and necessary.

7:32

Guardrails.

7:32

Yeah, knowing what to

7:34

report, knowing

7:37

what to Holster. The

7:39

best of us have a whole notepad

7:42

filled of scoops that

7:45

we never share. Yeah, it's a dance, I would

7:47

imagine. And that's for relationships

7:49

and so much more. I

7:53

say this because I want to report something

7:55

that uh kind of touches on this.

7:58

I have multiple connected

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to this event that

8:04

said when Greg reported

8:08

Bill Belichick would be on the roast, which

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is, by the way, information I also had

8:13

that had holstered. The

8:17

producers were so upset because

8:20

Bill Belichick contemplated

8:23

dropping out of the event because he wanted it

8:25

to be a surprise. And

8:27

thank god he was talked into appearing

8:29

on the show, the program because

8:32

it was one of the hits of the night having him there.

8:35

Yeah, and I

8:37

just want to put it out there.

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He was there, but it went from

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him doing it to him we

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might be losing Bill because

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of Gregy, his reporting, putting

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it out there and making it no longer

8:51

a surprise, which Bill desperately according

8:53

to my sources, multiple sources very

8:55

close to the event had

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said that Bill did not want this to get out beforehand.

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So on one level, Greg, yes,

9:03

you have the scoopage. Yeah, and that's great. You

9:05

want the truth, You go to the Rosenthal

9:07

on the other hand, doesn't ring his uh poetic.

9:10

It came very close to hashtag Greg your ruins

9:12

everything. Well, maybe so we got to talk

9:14

about what what what matters

9:16

ultimately in the world.

9:17

Ultimately, Hey, I did the truth matters. I

9:19

believe getting it out there matters.

9:21

But also you're getting it from a source.

9:24

Maybe also inside the production

9:26

that multiple source hunted it out there. So

9:29

right, the one that wanted

9:31

the information out there that maybe it'd be good for

9:34

Buzz that would be happy with it being out there. So

9:36

maybe they calculated what could

9:38

happen based on that, and they realized in

9:40

the end Bill Belichick was out there.

9:43

So you know, I'm not protecting

9:45

the fat cats.

9:46

Up there in the in the high falutant offices

9:48

making all the money.

9:49

I go to the truth. And then he got

9:52

he got out there. He was up there.

9:53

I mean this the other way around, Right, you

9:56

were protecting the fat cats and

9:58

doing their work for them, you were carrying their water

10:00

in promoting the event. I just thought to where Bill

10:02

himself was the one that was

10:05

I didn't want that out there, and then the audience,

10:08

us average Joe's we

10:10

almost missed having Bill there and all the fun from

10:12

the event.

10:12

I thought, listen, I'm not this isn't me throwing

10:15

daggers at you. Greg. I know we're kind of now

10:17

competitors.

10:18

I see you in some ways as like a hungry

10:20

young apprentice in this game. So I

10:23

I don't want to come down on you hard. I'm just letting

10:25

you know this was this was what was happening around

10:28

the story.

10:28

It's like me that that Belichick

10:31

if he even contemplated in the

10:33

eleventh hour not attending

10:35

this, that if he's that sensitive, right, I don't such

10:37

a such.

10:38

I don't believe that I could believe that that he would be

10:40

unhappy. I don't think. I also don't believe

10:42

it really.

10:42

Was about to Also, by the way it would have had

10:44

the people the whole thing's written in, it's on teleprompter,

10:47

it would have had to cause everyone

10:50

to wipe out.

10:51

That happens

10:55

now, that's it. I don't need to be taught

10:57

that. I understand that it would have been an annoyance. I

10:59

thank you television man, but like it's

11:02

like, that's not it's just that it would have been hyper annoying,

11:04

like he was the centerpiece of the show.

11:06

My point exactly. We almost lost

11:08

them over here.

11:12

I mean, you're you're trying to seek truth.

11:14

I get it, Greg, but you know, but.

11:16

Also there's different and maybe

11:18

they calculate. I don't think Bill Belichick

11:20

would have been so sensitive. And as for

11:22

the surprise aspect, I have to guess

11:25

for ninety five percent of the people watching

11:27

that they did not know Belichick was gonna be on that anyways,

11:30

not everyone is like living on.

11:31

But then when he's on it, it also wasn't a surprise.

11:34

What do you mean.

11:35

I didn't find it surprising that I thought

11:37

that either like Britt Belichick or

11:39

Gazelle, one of the two would somehow getow.

11:42

I would not have Gizelle would have been shocking

11:44

to me. And I'm with you that.

11:45

That toology doing like a ton of media,

11:47

right.

11:48

Tom Brady looked. You know, those

11:50

were hard because it's it's his family.

11:53

It's painful. He's getting all these karate

11:55

jokes, you know.

11:56

And I didn't.

11:58

I haven't seen the whole thing, but I watched beginning

12:00

like that in Belichick and enough so far

12:02

just because it was out and that that's got to

12:04

be painful, and it reminded me of the timing to this because

12:07

we it's like, why is tom Brady

12:09

doing this? Like I saw some people

12:11

say like, oh, who would you want to roast next?

12:13

Out of athletes?

12:14

And I just can't imagine a there's enough people

12:16

that are important enough that would

12:19

that it would be this compelling,

12:22

and then of the people important enough, like

12:24

why would you even really want

12:26

to do that? And it got me thinking of that the gestation

12:29

project of this because because we know through

12:31

our original reporting this was supposed to be a

12:34

couple of years ago before he ever got

12:37

divorced, that we thought he might be retiring,

12:39

in part because this was like cautiously

12:42

on an upcoming docket of

12:44

what he was planning to do in his post life, and

12:46

at that point it was too late to back out.

12:48

Although he's Tom Brady, he could have backed out.

12:50

And he came off great in it, and he took the

12:52

jokes and he did fine when when he had

12:54

some.

12:54

Of the craft that was getting

12:57

up on a dais and thrown out a threat.

12:58

That made me wonder, and I I no information,

13:01

but knowing how these things work, there are things

13:03

that are off limits. Absolutely wonder

13:06

Not much was often, but in terms of how tom

13:08

Brady was treated.

13:09

That made me wonder if that was off out and delving

13:12

into it.

13:12

I would imagine that was one of

13:14

the agreements for the

13:17

owner to come on this show do not involve

13:19

certain conversations, and they did. Brady

13:22

was very steadfast about that. Probably he was probably

13:24

furious about it. Yeah, Actually he was fearing us, furious

13:26

enough to get up and.

13:29

Whisper in the ear.

13:30

I do love that Belichick spent like, weirdly

13:32

like a minute doing three Matt Lighte jokes,

13:35

which was like, what that was one

13:37

takeaway on a night that was great. I think for Patriots

13:39

fans it did feel like a little bit of closure. Seeing Belichick

13:41

and Brady go back and forth was awesome. Mad Patrios,

13:43

I'm mad.

13:44

I love even Yeah, and I totally could

13:46

see that being the case, Like I

13:48

could see why even as you know the way things

13:51

ended. It's never fun when things end. But Bill and

13:53

Tom ultimately being cool makes

13:55

sense to me. They they went through so much together,

13:57

They're linked forever in history.

13:59

They love you love each other.

14:01

I'm sure the owner and the

14:03

coach situation, well

14:05

that's recent. Yeah, And the way if

14:07

I were Bill, the way that documentary,

14:10

the Apple documentary played out,

14:12

it wouldn't it wouldn't.

14:13

Go down so easy.

14:14

So he wasn't down to play ball in that respect,

14:16

and uh, let's get to the news.

14:18

Great job by the writers, by the way.

14:20

They they nailed it, like the one like Tony

14:22

Hinchcliff, who has his own show, like he

14:24

these guys that probably Tom Brady's never heard

14:26

of. For the most partly, he came up

14:28

and thanked Gronk Forinchcliff.

14:30

He's pretty big he is in that world and not like

14:32

in the roast world.

14:33

But he thanked Gronk for taking a break

14:35

from writing letters to Santa to join them,

14:37

like Gronk took about eight hundred

14:39

like Rid he

14:42

was had a.

14:42

Great line making fun of Tom losing

14:44

thirty million in crypto and he's like, even

14:47

Gronk knows that you don't mess up

14:49

no no real money, Grok no do is like

14:51

yes, good joke.

14:53

And uh yeah, friend of the show,

14:55

our former core Chris Brockman, you know his

14:57

his partner Sarah Tiana was one of the writers,

14:59

and Gaily does a show with Dave Damasik was

15:01

one of the writers.

15:02

I'll connected my throwback podcast partner and

15:04

Bosom Buddy Bob Cash and worked on

15:06

the project as well. Fun uh so good

15:08

stuff all fun. Let us

15:11

now, and I think it was a big success too,

15:13

good job seem get Also, never

15:15

underestimate dropping something

15:18

at the right time. The greatest example always be

15:20

the last dance with Michael Jordan in the middle

15:22

of COVID. But if you drop something

15:24

like this on Sunday night, may fifth

15:27

like it's gonna do well.

15:28

The one mistake I made this was a grave mistake I

15:30

reallysed about eighty two seconds into

15:32

the affair was that I texted, like

15:35

Luke and Colton, my children who are still

15:37

young, It's like Dad's gonna be watching this

15:39

Tom Brady event at the forum, like check

15:41

it out and like it. You know, within about a minute

15:44

into it, like everybody part had been mentioned, every

15:46

swear that you could come up.

15:47

Daddy, who's Aaron Hernandez.

15:50

That would have been the least my waring.

15:52

I'm sure you got a sharply worded tweet,

15:54

no response from

15:57

other parties involved. I meant, all right,

15:59

let's get in to it. Odell Beckham,

16:01

I'm.

16:02

Pretty sure I

16:05

mentioned this is definitely where he's gonna end up.

16:07

He was always gonna end up in Miami playing for

16:09

the Dolphins at some point in his life, and

16:11

now it is upon US rap sheet reported

16:13

that Miami's expected to sign

16:16

veteran wide out Odell Beckham.

16:18

One year deal up to eight

16:20

point twenty five million, So that's myam.

16:23

The base salary is three million

16:25

here.

16:26

Now, this was a guy who I think he made fifteen

16:28

guaranteed with Baltimore. That was one

16:30

of the worst free agency signings of

16:33

last year. So this

16:35

is now more in line with where Odell Beckham

16:37

is now. I mean, I would assume he's finally

16:39

in his thirties, probably about thirty one now. Feels

16:42

like he's been around forever obviously, but yeah,

16:44

he's not an old wide receiver, but

16:46

he's had some major, serious injuries.

16:48

It should be pointed out

16:51

that in addition to the injuries, Gregie

16:53

Baltimore kind of phased him out of the offense

16:56

down the stretch and did not show interest in

16:58

bringing him back. But if

17:00

you want to spend positive, if you want to talk yourself

17:02

into Odell Beckham yet again in

17:04

the offseason going

17:07

there as the third banana in the offense, maybe

17:09

he gives them something at

17:11

South Beach.

17:12

I think he's a role player.

17:14

Right now, he's getting paid as a low level

17:17

wide receiver, low role player.

17:19

Like maybe we're going to mention the DJ

17:21

Shark signing. I don't know.

17:22

He went to go ahead the

17:25

Chargers and it's like Tim, those guys are making

17:27

similar money.

17:28

I think Shark is actually making more.

17:29

So that's sort of the level I'm talking about, which is a third,

17:31

fourth receiver. And when he was

17:33

on the field last year, he was

17:36

a potentially useful player

17:39

just in that role and being on an offense

17:41

with Waddle and with Tyreek

17:44

Hill, like he's gonna be in

17:46

really ideal circumstances and he could be

17:48

helpful in that role because I going through

17:50

their you know, lineup, they have a big drop

17:52

off after those two. They have Braxton Barrios as their

17:54

three. They don't really have a three. So he

17:57

could contribute, but he just can't stay on the field. That was

17:59

his biggest issue in Baltimore is

18:01

like he couldn't stay healthy for more than three

18:03

games in a row.

18:04

Since maybe his fourth year. Because he

18:06

can't stay healthy.

18:07

Right there is a couple crossing patterns with Baltimore

18:09

where he actually got the ball in the open fields, Like he still

18:12

was pretty explosive, but he just couldn't stay

18:14

healthier consistent.

18:15

They drafted in the league Washington Do I think what

18:17

I like about it is that the ceiling

18:20

there aren't that there is only a handful of teams with an

18:22

absolutely locked and loaded one and two

18:24

at wide receiver.

18:25

So clearly, yes, he's the third guy

18:27

there.

18:27

But I trust, like Mike McDaniel

18:29

to get the most out of almost any

18:32

player on that side of the ball more than I

18:34

do Todd Monkin in the first year

18:36

with a Ravens team that was trying to amp up and become

18:38

more balanced. But it's like Odell did

18:41

get better down down the stretch, but then the limited

18:43

his role. So it's like, I kind of think this

18:45

is a perfect landing spot. It always made sense Devil's

18:47

advocate.

18:48

I mean, the thing that the Dolphins need to get

18:50

better at is being a late season

18:52

football team, like being a kind

18:54

of a badass team when the elements turn against you.

18:56

And Odell Beckham wearing seventeen

18:59

layers of closing, his entire face covered up

19:01

except for his eyes in January something

19:03

I could picture and don't imagine. He's

19:05

that guy that's that rough and tumble guy to take

19:07

you to the problem.

19:08

That's also one of about eight players on offense

19:10

that I don't trust to farewell in negative

19:12

twenty three degree temperatures no matter what.

19:14

Right, they need to get some home games finally,

19:16

but yeah, he was frustrated and we were at that game in

19:18

London. It was kind of a disaster. There

19:21

were a couple of games where Lamar Jackson just didn't

19:23

feel like he could trust that Odell would be in the right

19:25

spot at the right time.

19:26

And that's why I think total a major After

19:29

that game the Titans.

19:30

He was very bad the first half of the season, seemed

19:32

to find his footing in the back half of the regular season,

19:34

but then.

19:35

Kind of lost his role in the offense down the stretch.

19:37

Not the same type of player, but another high

19:40

profile veteran receiver that hung

19:42

on for a while, Toshaun Jackson. Remember

19:45

at the end of his career, he would pop up everyone's while

19:47

and still be making big plays, but was no longer

19:50

a consistent player in an

19:52

offense.

19:52

I could see Odell being that for Miami.

19:54

We shall see, all right,

19:56

let's take a break and then we'll continue the news,

20:00

all right, and other news let's it is

20:03

light out there by the way, as you would think, so

20:05

not a ton of news. So let's do some fifth year rookie

20:07

deal options. The

20:09

roundup a Nase Harris Steelers

20:12

running back declined. The Cowboys

20:15

not a surprise year. They declined Trey Lance's

20:17

fifty year option. Of course, he was drafted number

20:19

three overall a few years

20:21

back. The Broncos do the same with the number two

20:24

overall pick in that draft, Zach Wilson.

20:26

Not a surprise there.

20:27

Greg Newsom, Oda Oa, and

20:30

Kitty pay among the options

20:32

picked up for the fifth year.

20:36

I thought that the Naji Harris

20:38

was not surprising.

20:39

I think Jalen Warren's gonna have a much bigger

20:41

role, and I think they want to get faster.

20:44

Greg Newsom was dangled in like trade

20:47

talks going back like last

20:49

offseason and throughout you know, round the trade

20:51

deadline last year a little bit, so that

20:54

I like that. I think Greg Newsom is like quietly

20:57

an extremely solid cornerback.

20:59

And if I'm the Browns and Jim Schwartz

21:01

like, don't take anything away, just keep it going

21:03

for as long as you can.

21:04

Yeah.

21:05

I was actually a little surprised by the

21:07

Naja Harris declining because because it's running

21:10

back, it's only

21:12

six point eight million dollars, they didn't want to lock

21:14

into a one year, six point eight million dollar contract.

21:16

That's he's not going to be thrilled about

21:20

that. Right behind him, for instance, Travis Etn

21:22

making a slightly less money because he's

21:24

one pick later. You know, they picked up

21:26

his option. I

21:29

I think you look at some of the players that they

21:31

like. Oh way was a little surprising to me, like thirteen

21:34

point three million. He's been like slowly getting

21:36

better. There were some nos out there, try on Chayanka,

21:39

gotta know, Peyton Turner, who's you know, Eric

21:41

Stokes. Those guys just haven't been on the field enough.

21:44

Remember Alex Leatherwood not eligible in

21:46

this draft, no longer in the NFL A

21:48

Zaleen Collins, David Collins got to know. But

21:51

Justin Fields was another one just checking a

21:53

box like of course they're not picking it up. I guess it's

21:55

one year, twenty five point seven million.

21:57

But it just shows what a weird situation that

22:00

bears. What I mean, that Steelers team

22:02

and one like.

22:02

Little note with Fields because remember we were talking about this

22:04

thing that's been floated out that they could use fields as

22:06

a return man, like that's possible,

22:09

and I don't.

22:09

I don't.

22:09

I kind of think it's an interesting concept, But they

22:11

know they have Cordero Patterson too, and they

22:13

got them specifically, Like soon after

22:16

that whole kickoff thing changed.

22:17

To only one of those quarterbacks. That's that's hitting me

22:20

now of the five taken got their.

22:22

Tops in twenty twenty one draft

22:24

MESSI not not for nothing,

22:26

was the first draft after COVID

22:29

shut down the entire world and most of college football.

22:31

Darius Tony was a big note to not a not a surprise

22:33

again, but just checking boxes here.

22:36

You mentioned Alex Leatherwood.

22:38

I was thinking when the Michael Pennox pick went down

22:41

with Atlanta, and I was like, when's the last time there was a

22:43

pick that was so head scratching or was immediately

22:45

panned at such a high level. It was the Raiders

22:48

taking Alex Weatherwe Alex Leatherwood,

22:50

I think around twenty or so twenty one in that realm,

22:53

and immediately I remember all

22:55

the guys on the day as for NFL Network

22:57

and everywhere else were like them

23:00

through their notes.

23:00

It's like I had him as maybe like a third round

23:02

guy.

23:03

He might be the ultimate example, and of course he flamed

23:06

out immediately with the Raiders. He might be the ultimate

23:08

example of why you don't just draft for

23:10

a position or a need, you have to go

23:13

best available player.

23:13

In the Raiders, I think with Mike Mayock made that mistake.

23:16

Well, there's a study out there that kind of over the last

23:18

ten year shows where teams

23:20

drafted and what like how much value

23:23

according to like consensus big boards, where

23:25

how it you know, even out and the best teams get

23:27

the best value where they draft. And the Raiders

23:30

were dead last over the last ten years and they made

23:32

a lot of like zigging zagging picks that

23:34

didn't work.

23:35

The other one I thought of actually wasn't

23:38

quite as big as Pennix, But

23:40

in terms of a top pick shocking everyone was

23:42

Cleveland Faroll, which was also mayok is actually

23:44

his first pick, yep, and it was the number four overall

23:47

pick, and everyone's like, wait, really, like he's

23:49

a solid player, but no one thought he was a top

23:51

fifteen player.

23:52

They had multiple number ones in that draft and none

23:54

of them were with the team anymore.

23:55

And we talked about, you know, Jordan did that great deep

23:57

dive of the Rams draft. The teams

23:59

like the Raiders, for instance, that keep churning

24:01

and starting over, not just at head coach.

24:04

Sometimes you think, oh, oh, they fired a GM,

24:06

they hired a new GM. In a lot of cases,

24:08

you're bringing an entire new length football

24:10

language and before you could even install

24:13

a new one, and even tho, if it works, that guy's out

24:15

and you're starting again. And I guess the

24:17

examples of teams and

24:20

one's the less time the Raiders win the.

24:21

Super Bowl twenty five years ago, twenty three

24:23

years ago. Not a lot of success when a playoff

24:25

game.

24:25

First, Yeah, all right, let's

24:28

talk about the Saints.

24:29

Mickey Loomis the GM.

24:32

They made a move at the draft, drafting

24:34

kool Aid McKinstry, who is a very toolsy

24:38

cornerback. A lot of

24:40

people believe kool Aid has a chance to

24:42

be, you know, a star at corner. And

24:44

then there's the situation with veteran Marshawn

24:47

Latimore, once upon a time a

24:50

big time draft pick by the Saints back

24:52

in twenty seventeen. Now the idea is,

24:54

are they looking to move Latimore with mcinsrey

24:56

in the house. Here's what Loomis had to say on Mad

24:58

Dog Sports Radio.

25:00

Yeah, it doesn't mean anything. Marshan's have been a really

25:02

good player for us for a good period of time. He's

25:04

one of the leaders of our team. And

25:06

and look like

25:09

it's just like I said, you know, we

25:11

can use as many corners as we can get,

25:14

and we've got we've got a good group, a really

25:16

good group, and they're gonna help each other and they're gonna help

25:18

our team win.

25:19

Greg they have a very uh talented

25:22

cornerback room.

25:23

What is the the idea why

25:25

they would move Latimore is that their their

25:27

perpetual issues with cap space and trying

25:30

to finally gain some level of financial

25:32

freedom.

25:33

There was some reporting just

25:36

last year that he wasn't happy and it

25:38

was personal maybe between him and the coaching

25:40

staff, and that's popped up. I

25:43

think when it comes to trades though, and I've

25:45

seen a lot of people like just throw it out,

25:47

like, oh, what could be some trades that could

25:49

come up this It's like trades aren't

25:51

happening at this point. What is the point of getting

25:53

a draft pick in a trade in

25:56

the middle of the summer that you could just

25:58

get after the season

26:01

now if injuries happen and you're in training

26:03

camp. That's where it's possible

26:06

where a guy like a CD deuce, you know,

26:08

shook loose from the Saints, And I could see

26:10

Latimore being a guy like maybe in training

26:13

camp once you get to like the middle till later, once

26:15

you get like closer to cut days, but like from

26:17

now until then, like those big name and receivers, like they're

26:19

not going anywhere.

26:20

The window passed.

26:21

I might also say that if

26:23

you lose Lattimore because

26:25

of Dennis Allas, Dennis Allen's

26:27

second very notable like internal

26:30

tip with the player, that's how you lost Garner Johnson,

26:32

like that, these are both from your secondary. You

26:35

trade them post June one

26:37

or go or cut them. You still are dealing with a lot

26:39

of dead cap money. So it's like it would only save

26:42

them about four million this year, cost them

26:44

ten plus and dead cap money ten plus

26:46

and dead cap money the year after seven plus

26:48

the year after that, and then still the year after that.

26:50

So it's it's not that financially, it's

26:52

not financial wizardry necessary.

26:54

I believe he might have been an ex Saint

26:56

if they got like a nice offer,

26:58

but people are just just about waiting

27:01

for these picks. For veterans, which is crazy because

27:03

then they get in the draft and they're throwing like

27:06

future picks around willy nilly to move

27:08

up ten spots.

27:09

But then the Viking game, but they gave up Yeah, like

27:11

and again the veteran trade

27:14

Tex You're right Latimore. It's like, oh,

27:16

man, I would love to have Latimore on my team, but

27:19

it would cost me like a second round pick.

27:21

Maybe No, I don't get the fourth, right,

27:24

go get them.

27:25

If your team needs a corner we're gonna

27:27

talk about needs in a little bit.

27:28

You're also hoping like it's nice to say kool

27:30

aid McKinstry is like fills and needs like, okay,

27:33

not a lot of cornerbacks don't work.

27:35

So and I just want to say about

27:37

two minutes ago, I want to apologize to

27:39

the listeners to you guys as

27:41

well, but I'm working

27:43

with an alternate laptop today.

27:45

Couldn't locate my work laptop.

27:48

And the concerning the biggest concerning

27:50

development with one of our laptopsince I

27:53

spilled coffee on mine twice in six

27:55

months.

27:55

I mean, I know you know me, but

27:57

like those who know me on a

28:00

truly personal, like at home level, I lose stuff

28:02

all the time, okay, and it usually turns like

28:04

a laptop. Yeah, like stuff

28:06

that you would never think, how could that be lost?

28:08

You wouldn't just have left it out like a coffee

28:11

bean or something possible.

28:12

I went to the car wash after the show.

28:14

I was a true workingman on Thursday, and took

28:16

the bag out of the car when I was vacuuming,

28:19

put the bag back in.

28:21

How would the laptop get out?

28:22

It doesn't matter, So the point being, I'm

28:24

using the laptop, yeah, and I had the

28:26

volume up, and then I got

28:29

a text from a

28:31

friend and it can't

28:33

be scrubbed out by atap because

28:35

I was talking at the time of the ding. So

28:38

now, now, about three minutes

28:40

ago, there's tens of thousands

28:42

of listeners who are gonna hear that ding, and

28:45

they're gonna go check their phones and then they're

28:47

gonna look at it and it's not going There's not

28:49

gonna be a text, And it's

28:51

because of me and

28:53

my failure to hit the mute button

28:56

on a rogue laptop.

28:58

I know, I'm so apology will go a long way

29:01

to the tens of thousands that will, obviously,

29:03

but I like, I'm glad you mentioned it because that's

29:05

the same a similar sound effect we use when someone

29:07

says something that's very factual or

29:09

astute or right.

29:10

Next level or really anything at all.

29:12

Well, yeah, but you were you were rolling through a

29:14

setup point and then got a ding, and I'm like, why

29:16

did Eric rear? Why did you get that sound

29:18

effect? You said nothing out of the ordinary, so makes

29:21

me feel better.

29:22

That would really.

29:23

Mess with the listeners if Eric replaces

29:26

his ding with the traditional

29:28

Apple texting, don't

29:30

do.

29:30

It is off the charts here,

29:32

I love, thank you, thank you.

29:34

What else is in the news? Quote unquote news JJ

29:36

Watt he retired. I think

29:39

I lost the sangwich because I thought Watt would come back last

29:41

year. I kind of thought he'd end up playing with his brother

29:43

TJ and Pittsburgh, but he

29:45

stayed out of football last year, did

29:48

some TV work. But JJ

29:50

Watt says if

29:53

his original football team, the Houston Texans,

29:55

and they're head coach, pick up the phone,

29:58

he'd answer, let's listen to this.

30:00

Twelve great years in this league, and I'm

30:02

very thankful to have walked away healthy

30:04

and playing great. I

30:06

mean, I told Demiko last year, I said,

30:09

don't call unless you absolutely need it. But

30:11

if you ever do call, I'll be there. He

30:13

knows, not the call unless he absolutely needs

30:16

it.

30:17

This is the last year.

30:17

I'll tell him that because I'm not going to keep training the way

30:20

I've been training. But he knows

30:22

that if he ever truly does need it, I'll be.

30:24

There for him.

30:25

Notable Brandon K. Scott with the credit

30:27

there on Twitter. Before he made

30:29

that last comment, I was going to say,

30:31

for a guy who's been out of football now for over a

30:33

year, he looks exactly like JJ Watt

30:35

many many times, and you could figure out

30:38

why. It's natural when they step away

30:40

from the game, they stop training at the same level and

30:42

their physique gets slimmer or whatever. He

30:45

looks he looks like he's still what

30:47

was he six six to sixty or whatever.

30:49

We saw him at the Super Bowl and he's not like a normal human.

30:51

And he's saying he's training too,

30:54

he's football ready right now. Still, that is notable

30:56

to me and something to keep.

30:57

And I saw a thing where he went

31:00

through and I kind of love finding out about this stuff, Like he

31:02

went through what his diet is to

31:05

maintain like the like the

31:07

watch shape, and it's like seven

31:09

thousand plus calories a day, but

31:12

a year old still yeah, well, I mean that's that's what he

31:14

was doing when he was a player, and so if

31:16

he looks exactly the same, it's got to be in the realm

31:19

of that if he wants to.

31:20

This is the power of CJ.

31:21

Strouds me because he left the Texans

31:23

with you know, some issues with ownership

31:25

and all that stuff.

31:26

But it's like, suddenly this team looks like a.

31:27

Super Bowlso say the power of Dimiko Ryans,

31:29

who is sure JJ Watt's former teammate

31:31

with Houston. They were once the stalwarts of a defense

31:34

together and now he is the head

31:36

coach and he's got obviously the respect of JJ.

31:38

So the off season, the off season news

31:41

moves slow in some ways, but

31:43

whenever you just get a little bite, suddenly it moves

31:45

fast. And they actually someone tracked down Tamiko

31:47

Ryans, who is at a Texans

31:50

event today. He says, I need him

31:52

now anytime JJ is ready to

31:54

go, I'm ready to go.

31:55

In as a situational tess be incredible.

31:57

But yeah, we're not going to get sucked into the

31:59

May six rumor mill.

32:01

But it's good to relay

32:03

s do.

32:03

It and part of the reason I think

32:05

what was interesting to talk about is let's need throughout

32:08

this on the Rich Eisen Show last week too, just

32:10

that that Aaron Donald,

32:12

like, hey, I had mentioned to Aaron when he retired.

32:14

You know, we had a guy in Eric Weddle who just kind of

32:16

jumped off the

32:19

couch to join the playoffs. So maybe if if

32:21

you'd want to do that, that'd be option, you know, it'd

32:23

be an option for you. He says he doubts Aaron Donald

32:25

would actually do.

32:26

That, but I don't know. The RAMS might see that happening.

32:28

The RAMS might ask, and they actually structured

32:30

his contract and retirement in a way

32:32

that that would be very doable

32:34

if Aaron Donald would want

32:36

to. But he says that he might try to. They might try

32:39

to tempt him, but that they don't know if they.

32:40

Should do more of these, like veterans

32:42

with special powers are brought onto

32:44

the scene, like Joe Flacco, like in

32:47

November and December. Don't make them go through all

32:49

this nonsense leading up to it.

32:51

If the team's in position, you bring Aaron Donald

32:54

back in for sixty days and he dominates

32:56

and then gets a Super Bowl ring.

32:57

Do it love to see

32:59

it. There's just a category of players like

33:01

that.

33:05

Justin James Watt turned thirty five years old

33:07

in March. All right, that's what's happening in

33:09

the news. Let's take a break and

33:11

talk about some outstanding

33:14

team needs. I don't mean outstanding like,

33:16

oh, it's outstanding. I mean

33:18

outstanding like a debt,

33:21

like a tax bill.

33:23

Okay, we'll be right back. We

33:31

are back, We're back. Continue.

33:38

I mean. The only upside here is that I didn't

33:40

like, somehow verbalize a third version

33:42

of that over the double version that already exists.

33:45

Could happen though like that, it could happen,

33:47

it wouldn't be like that wasn't on purpose either,

33:50

and if it did happen again, it

33:53

would have the.

33:53

Triple only happened that time

33:56

because your directions were

33:58

fuzzy compared to the direction you

34:00

gave like a Jordan on our last show,

34:03

or Colleen, like the ones given to me were

34:05

fuzzy, and I faltered. And

34:07

I don't blame myself.

34:09

I don't know. I love it so much.

34:12

Unfinished business, that's see, that was

34:14

the one I was trying to get that out at the top of the show segment.

34:18

Unfinished business. Teams

34:20

are now pretty much, and there

34:22

are still GREGI, there are still roster

34:24

moves to be made. There's not a lot of options

34:28

out there, but there are options. There are players

34:30

out there, and there will be cuts and all that stuff, and maybe

34:33

jj WA coomes out of retirement.

34:34

You never know.

34:35

But as things stand out, Greg, there's

34:38

gonna be teams that enter the season with

34:40

with void.

34:41

So let's get into them. Let's talk about

34:43

them.

34:43

Maybe they're not, maybe they only seem like a

34:46

roster issue, and we'll have a conversation

34:48

and it won't be that way. And I'll get this one

34:50

going, and I will start with a

34:52

team that I think everyone agrees

34:54

is a bit of a

34:57

intellectual curiosity right now.

35:00

It is ATP's favorite team. It is the Buffalo

35:02

Bills.

35:03

And you could go in maybe a couple of different directions

35:05

for this team that's been so close

35:07

to getting over the hump, but

35:10

they haven't yet. I was gonna say, did they make it to

35:12

the AFC title Game yet? With Josh Allen once

35:15

Yeah, yeah. On one trip to.

35:17

The game is Stefan Diggs staring at the confetti

35:20

No no rough rough.

35:23

And now they're trying to go out at a different angle

35:25

with some turnover on the roster. I'll talk about

35:28

the wide receivers because I'm curious

35:30

in general here this is not just this

35:32

offseason, but when you look at their

35:34

depth chart, where's the investment been

35:37

at this position during the Stephan

35:39

Diggs and now the post Diggs era. We

35:42

know the Bills traded back twice

35:44

out of the first round. They took Keon Coleman last

35:47

month in the second round. We'll see how he turns out.

35:50

But I always think that that with wide

35:52

receivers, in most cases there are special

35:54

cases, and there could be a couple of special

35:57

cases at the top of this draft with Marvin

35:59

Harrison and and neighbors

36:02

and a doonsay, but banking

36:04

on a first year wide receiver

36:06

to fill your void if you have a big one at

36:08

wide receiver is risky business. And that they're

36:11

kind of asking that if Kean Coleman right

36:13

now, however,

36:16

Coleman, he

36:18

looks like a lottery pick as a second rounder compared

36:21

to the rest of the depth chart. Gabe Davis was a fourth

36:23

round pick in twenty twenty. He's in Jacksonville

36:25

now. Khalil Shakir was a fifth rounder

36:27

in twenty two just In Shorter, a fifth

36:30

rounder in twenty three, and then you

36:32

look at who else they have their free agent acquisitions,

36:34

Curtis Samuel, kJ Hamler, Chase

36:36

Claypool. Those guys are all second round picks, but on

36:39

other teams, and they're two varying degrees,

36:41

in my opinion, depreciated assets.

36:44

Former fourth round pick Mac Hollins is also

36:46

on this team. Now cool a

36:49

lot of guys, yeah names and listen. I

36:51

love Josh Allen. Actually

36:53

Josh and I are spirit Canines, as

36:56

Jordan pointed out last week, But I don't

36:58

want to watch number seventeen throwing

37:01

to a bunch of second rate playmakers

37:03

like Patrick Mahomes

37:05

was a year ago.

37:07

And I'll end with a movie quote

37:09

here, Marky.

37:11

Like Basher don Chieadle's character

37:13

and Ocean's eleven said it will be nice

37:15

working with proper villain. Actually said it in a

37:18

terrible English accent.

37:20

Yeah, and I have a terrible English accent, so

37:22

I'll do it. It'll be nice working with proper

37:24

villains again. Alan will have to wait

37:26

at least another year for the dawn of that reality,

37:29

because right now these are not proper villains

37:31

in my opinion.

37:32

At the wide receiver.

37:33

Yeah, they did such a good job early

37:35

in Allen's career building up around him

37:37

quickly, and they're in a they're having to move

37:39

through a different phase of all that. Dalton Kincaid

37:42

is a big factor, though. I kind of think, you know what,

37:44

You've got a real weapon in him at tight end. But

37:46

you're right, it's a bunch of dudes that are

37:49

like names alone, like Andy

37:51

Isabella. You've got like a key on Coleman. You're

37:53

hoping right away contributes.

37:55

They've already said like he has to, and Josh

37:57

Allen knows he has to.

37:59

I don't love that for any.

38:01

First year wide receiver, especially early on, because

38:03

it's like going from college to pros and different

38:05

playbooks, different schemes, Like there is an adjustment

38:07

there. But I also don't just like wide

38:10

out rooms where if you get one injury

38:12

here to a key figure, you are

38:14

staring at bottom of the barrel talent

38:16

around Josh Allen.

38:18

I like this group more than

38:20

you guys do, just because I like Curtis Samuel like I

38:22

can't get I did too.

38:23

I would say I didn't.

38:24

I felt even when I was doing that set up that I don't

38:26

He's not much of a depreciated asset, but he has

38:28

bounced around the league a little.

38:29

Bit, and he's a role player. Your

38:32

guys are right that there's a bunch of role players. Coleman

38:35

was a divisive draft prospect. Some

38:37

people had him as like a third or fourth round

38:39

guy, other's Bucky Brooks, and plenty

38:42

of other people had him as like a top five receiver in this class,

38:44

like a physical guy who I thought

38:46

would make more sense in the slot. My problem is,

38:48

like I like Shakir, he's shown he's an NFL

38:50

player, he's a.

38:52

As a like a as I got next to a one

38:54

and someone, yeah, exactly, as like a

38:56

three, as like an inside player who's gonna get

38:58

open.

38:59

Samuel's profiles a little

39:01

similar to me to Shakir.

39:03

And then you have Coleman, who I thought would do his best work

39:05

on the inside, and you have Kincaid,

39:08

who to me is part of this, and Dawson Knox is

39:10

part of this. And that's what you're hoping for, is that an

39:12

offensive line and the tight ends

39:14

and the running backs essentially make up

39:16

for these receivers. But yeah, you mentioned, I didn't

39:18

even realize how many like oh, he's on this

39:20

team. Claypool maccollins.

39:23

Mc collins can play. He's like a fourth receiver who

39:25

was a special teamer. Andy Isabella is probably

39:27

not making this team, but he is on this team. kJ

39:30

Hammler like I loved for a few minutes and

39:32

then he's had devastating injuries unfortunately.

39:34

Like, there's just a lot of names, a lot of guys. I

39:37

don't want to put you on the spot, Eric unless

39:39

you know, but I'm gonna check. When's the last time they

39:42

used a first round pick on a wide receiver?

39:45

Digs they traded for They traded a first round pick

39:47

to get Digs.

39:48

I mean, off top of my head, are we going back to Stevie

39:50

Watkins, Sammy Watkins? You're

39:53

right, they traded up.

39:55

They traded a bundle to get and maybe that's a

39:57

reason why the organizationally because Watkins

39:59

never really came through, but they traded up

40:01

to get Watkins in twenty fourteen, which was the Dark

40:03

ages of the Buffalo Bills. But

40:06

that's the last time that they've gone in that direction,

40:09

all right.

40:10

Mark, you want to go next? Yeah?

40:13

For me?

40:13

Looking around, I like this exercise because you're

40:16

like looking at our lads and kind of seeing where things just

40:18

do not work it.

40:18

Can we hit the Big Funk means a second couple of waters

40:21

be brought to Dan. Everyone.

40:22

Really, you gotta subscribe on YouTube check

40:25

us out to see Big.

40:27

Funk step up. They Big Funk does it all for water.

40:29

Big Funk is not only a gifted producer

40:31

and social man.

40:34

When Mystic Dan forgets

40:38

to get the Mystic Dan, that's

40:40

pretty good. Actually, I like that Big

40:43

Funk does

40:46

it all gets

40:49

the water. He

40:52

does it all? Sorry,

40:59

Mark, what.

41:00

Are the odds that I'd get eight words

41:02

into uh my segment

41:05

point here? And not only are

41:08

is like you know, fluids being brought into the room, but

41:10

we're breaking into song and dance.

41:11

I was parched, and I thought it was affecting

41:14

my performance.

41:15

I was a psychic connection that allowed

41:18

that Bark has a point here.

41:20

It's obviously not going to be you that's getting interrupted

41:22

by that by Ranel.

41:24

I interrupt myself all the time, right coming in though

41:26

I mean and doing this song.

41:27

But for some reason, if it was me

41:29

or Mark who's gonna it just by chance,

41:31

who's gonna get interrupted? I would

41:33

put my life savings that it's.

41:35

Marked the

41:38

timing well the timing is the timing

41:40

is a lever pole.

41:41

Understand that, but but to see it as a lever

41:43

pole, at least on the surface is

41:45

incorrect. But if you're saying, if I'm subconsciously

41:48

pull on the lever, it's not that deep and it's

41:51

certainly within the realm of reason.

41:53

Yes, I don't think it's miles into the subcons

41:56

can turn this up a little bit.

41:57

That is nice.

41:57

Fuck,

42:02

you need to use this in your personal life, if you know

42:04

what I'm saying.

42:07

I'd love to discover that.

42:10

You know, when you when we pass off the earth and

42:12

you can see all different periods of human times.

42:14

Yeah that whenever you think of like the medieval

42:16

ages and you have like a floutest who's like, you

42:18

know that it's very boring music. But what if it

42:20

was just this and we don't think we created this, but this

42:23

was what was happening, like the Soulful.

42:25

The soulful Floutest is an

42:27

underrated musician, all

42:30

right, without further ado, Mars.

42:32

This feels like it's also now following

42:34

it up with some sort of mundane football common

42:37

is absurd. I like,

42:39

what like a lot of these like running back rooms

42:41

have a bunch of guys. I don't know what

42:44

why the New York Giants who have issues, they already

42:46

have issues, think that Devin Singletary

42:49

is going to be a capable

42:51

post to Kwon Barkley lead horse.

42:54

I think he's a fine guy to have as

42:56

part of your running back room. They drafted Tyrone

42:59

Tracy's a fifth rounder. They've got

43:01

Dion Jackson, Eric Gray. One

43:03

of these guys is going to go down with it some sort of an injury

43:05

or malady. And it's like, suddenly you're taking

43:07

a quarterback you don't trust who's injury prone,

43:10

and Daniel Jones or fill in the

43:12

blank there and say, we're

43:14

not sure even if they stay healthy, you've

43:16

got a capable running game. I'll add to that

43:18

that we don't know what's happening with Darren Waller at tight

43:20

end.

43:20

So you've got Daniel Bellinger exactly.

43:24

This sounds like no other real breaking

43:26

news, but.

43:26

Right, but how many other players are like It's like we're

43:28

into month three of whispers that Darren Waller

43:31

doesn't maybe want to play football again.

43:32

There's a lot of other stuff going on there.

43:34

We're never seeing that man out of football field ever

43:36

again.

43:37

Last year when he was public about it, he said,

43:40

I he's on records.

43:42

This also just isn't the same version they

43:44

were. I think we were last what version of Darren

43:46

Waller're gonna get? Like, we're one year later into not

43:48

being condensurate. It's that guy they

43:51

drafted, Theo Johnson at tight end, who some

43:53

people were talking up. But you know, you just are

43:55

taking your running back position, your tight

43:57

end position you've got you had. You have very

44:00

little wide receiver before Elik Neighbors. It's like this

44:02

offense, it's the this is the crew that

44:04

build up around Josh

44:06

Allen like they I mean, these these were connected

44:09

to that growth period and we saw what the coaching

44:11

staff could do with that. And it's not happening

44:13

around whatever quarterback they actually want to play,

44:15

because there's questions about that too.

44:17

Yeah, wait a second, Can I just say they

44:19

took one of the big three wide receivers

44:21

though?

44:22

I like that, but I didn't list wide receiver.

44:23

I'm just saying that if the wide receiver was a burning

44:25

need, and so they did address that. You can't

44:28

address everything, but if you're gonna lose Saquon Barkley,

44:30

who frankly, when they go to the playoffs two seasons

44:32

ago, and that was smoking mirrors to some degree. But

44:34

Sequon had one of those seasons.

44:36

Can I say, I don't think that was a terrible move to

44:38

pay a better than running back with injury.

44:41

No, but get you.

44:41

But but you're now telling us that

44:43

if Devin Singletary is your lead guy and

44:47

question marks behind him.

44:48

That's riskly.

44:49

I guess my counter would be Devin Singletary,

44:51

while not flashy and certainly not have the name

44:53

brand value of Saquon Barkley, he might actually be

44:55

a better investment for what he gives

44:57

you and what he costs compared to what the Eagles just

45:00

paid.

45:00

I don't think right.

45:02

I don't think the argument is I think you should

45:04

have turned around and overpaid for a running back

45:06

that has durability.

45:08

Is but you would have had to to keep them in the bills. So you don't

45:10

see that.

45:10

But you go there's there was months and months

45:12

and chances to go to get other teams,

45:15

like the wide receiver room in Buffalo. You're throwing

45:17

a lot of darts. We'll see what works. There's not a

45:19

lot of relikable darts.

45:20

They got caught flat footed. Yes, at running

45:23

back because they gave Devin Singletary nine

45:25

and a half million guaranteed.

45:26

It's like, that's that's a lot, and and that's

45:28

a fair point when you factor and how much you paid.

45:30

I had no idea he was getting that much guaranteed. But

45:33

my only point is, at least how I looked

45:35

at the exercise. If I see the team actually actively

45:38

kind of going trying to address it, I'm

45:41

gonna give them a little bit of a pass. Like the Bills, I feel

45:43

like they didn't. They weren't aggressive enough

45:45

with their wide receivers. The Giants are trying

45:47

to do it, but they're not. It's not gonna happen in

45:49

one day. I don't know what they're trying to do it.

45:51

At running back, they signed like I mean, a

45:53

little bit every I mean everyone in these position

45:55

groups.

45:55

They've added someone somewhere. I

45:58

got a lot of work to do.

45:59

I agree with you don't see any and that's

46:01

a position you can usually find some free agents

46:03

late in the game. But again they went quite quickly.

46:05

I'm not sure who that would be. Maybe a

46:07

Kareem Hunt, maybe a Latavious Murray.

46:09

But you're not gonna get excited.

46:11

Let's see haven't Singletary got nine and a half

46:13

guaranteed, dem

46:17

I missing.

46:18

There had some nice metrics last year

46:20

in terms of like make Tony Pollard miss

46:22

and Tony

46:25

Pollard got similar maybe

46:27

a little more, all

46:30

right.

46:33

If Neighbors is a stud though, they're gonna be a lot better

46:35

on offense if the quarterback can get it to

46:37

them.

46:38

Hollard got ten point four million guaranteed,

46:41

so pretty similar.

46:42

Yeah, all right, so

46:44

maybe we should stop crying poverty for the running

46:46

backs.

46:46

It's all turning around.

46:47

Now, Okay. I might have misunderstood

46:50

this exercise. No, I don't think so. It's unfinished

46:53

business. It's unfinished business,

46:54

and so I didn't look at it from a team perspective

46:57

out at more like league wide.

46:59

I'm into the I'm into the contract.

47:01

So I just let's start with I could divide

47:03

this up into wide receiver deals and quarterback

47:06

deals, but let's go wide receiver first.

47:08

I made little categories. I like it all right.

47:09

Here are some wide receiver deals I expect

47:13

justin Jefferson. We might have to wait around till like August

47:15

for this, but I think it's it's gonna happen

47:18

the way they've way public.

47:20

This is quite literally

47:22

unphysical finished business business.

47:24

Yeah, I think justin Jefferson, Brandon

47:26

Ayuk, Nico Collins, those would

47:29

be three wide receivers I think are

47:31

going to get good contracts

47:33

this offseason. One I want to put in

47:35

this category, but I don't rule out the Cowboys

47:38

for messing it up, is CD Lamb,

47:40

who's also a free agent next

47:42

year, Like, you got to do this right,

47:44

Like I think they will do it, but now

47:46

at this point, I don't know.

47:48

I don't I don't know what's going on in Dallas.

47:51

And then another category is

47:53

my don't wait around for it to get too

47:55

late, And that would be kind of be next year's crew, which

47:57

is Jalen Wattle, Jamar Chase,

48:00

and Drake London. The teams that are getting done

48:02

early. We've talked about it save a little money.

48:04

So that's just like the unfinished wide

48:06

receiver business. And there's been a lot a

48:08

lot of chatter, especially with JJ and Iyuk,

48:11

but in the end, I think those deals get done.

48:14

That's my unfinished bass.

48:15

That's a little like housekeeping, if you will.

48:17

I like that, who's out there and what's the one that

48:20

the least likely of that group? You think to

48:22

get a deal.

48:24

CD.

48:25

I think because I

48:30

don't know, because they've they've waited too long.

48:32

You got you should try to get it in before Jefferson

48:34

does it.

48:35

I think they're keeping CD before Dak at this point.

48:37

Yeah, I kind of like some of

48:39

the breadcrumbs going on around.

48:41

Here Eco Collins, maybe just

48:43

because he's not quite at that level. But

48:45

I think they know what they have and they have a ton of cap

48:47

space, so he would make a lot of sense. Let's

48:49

do the quarterback too. While I'm on the contract

48:51

beat, and these might

48:53

be more interesting. I've seen people push

48:56

back that is GoF actually got to get this deal.

48:58

I still expect golf. Did

49:00

you hear those Lions fans in Detroit? Right? You

49:02

can't let that guy.

49:03

It is a tricky contract perhaps

49:05

of how many years of guaranteed money you're

49:07

gonna give. But he'll get a nice raise goff

49:10

to And I think Jordan

49:12

Love gets paid this year because I think Green

49:15

Bay is smart. I think the contract they gave him

49:17

last year was a sneaky great contract,

49:19

a two year deal.

49:20

Give him a little cushion.

49:22

They didn't give him his fifth year option, but I think

49:24

they get contracts Dak it looks like it is

49:26

a big fat no, which is crazy.

49:28

And then just kind of like keep an eye out on Trevor.

49:32

Maybe they just wait for him to get to his fifthyear

49:34

option, which is fine, He's not a free

49:36

agent next year.

49:37

Trevor and Purty my

49:40

unfortunate. What did you call it, Avatar? I

49:42

mean, I am now brock Purty black

49:46

party might be the most underpaid player in the league. Whether

49:48

you're a huge brock pretty guy or a

49:51

middle brock purty guy. He's getting

49:53

paid like a seventh round pick for starting

49:55

quarterback on one of the best teams in the NFL.

49:57

So those are two to watch.

49:58

I think the one in there that like

50:00

a couple of things happening, because let's there

50:02

is a world where Dak Prescott doesn't stay

50:04

with the Cowboys after this upcoming season.

50:07

And then you're the Dolphins and you're trying

50:09

to figure out, if you're Mike McDaniel,

50:11

like what how much you really want to

50:13

invest in Tua? Like contract for

50:15

Tua when maybe a quarterback becomes available

50:18

in the off season, like are like I'm

50:20

still confounded by what to do with Tua.

50:22

I know that like the from certain metrics.

50:24

He looks pristine, but like watching too, it's

50:26

like, am I gonna give this guy a giant contract?

50:28

They just seem like they are

50:30

very positive about it, and he's positive about it.

50:32

It just says to me they've made progress

50:34

and they're they're both kind of think it's gonna happen.

50:37

All right, So you rock

50:39

my world about that singletary thing. So

50:41

I look, I love I did some digging here. So

50:43

the running back market.

50:44

You're just not interested in. What's a party

50:47

gotta be?

50:48

That's a tricky contract, Dan.

50:51

I also think that.

50:52

Is it he worth more than he would never get more

50:54

money than Trevor. By the way, I.

50:56

Don't want to say anything about Brock because I don't want to get

50:58

Mark upset that I'm still not totally

51:00

sold on Rock and maybe the Niners aren't.

51:02

You well, you should be. You should be worried about getting me

51:04

upset.

51:04

You know, kept me up. That wasn't my compar

51:07

comparison. I loved that it was uh because

51:09

it got you fired up. But that was Jordan saying

51:11

that you were Brock Birdie. That really stuck

51:14

with Greg.

51:15

We were as we were leaving the studio, you

51:17

were still parsing that in your mind and verbally

51:19

with us.

51:20

Just give me Philip Rivers someone that's fun.

51:21

At least, you know, well,

51:24

I think it was all active qbs

51:26

though.

51:28

Anyway, so you're you're right, You're absolutely right.

51:30

He got Devin got nine and a

51:32

half fully guaranteed, which is more than what

51:35

Derreck Henry got fully guaranteed. And

51:38

uh, I'll just throw one more out there that

51:41

to the point though, nine and a half is nine and a half.

51:44

But Saquon got twenty twenty

51:46

five and a half.

51:48

He got it, he got the contract five and a

51:50

half. Not to like, not to

51:52

hash it.

51:53

You're you're looking at it through the lens of like, should

51:55

they have re signed Saquon Barkley.

51:57

No, we've moved on from

51:59

that conversation, and at least I have. I'm

52:01

more just like looking at how that market shook out

52:03

in hindsight. Now let's

52:06

move on, Let's go through another round.

52:08

Let's do it here. Wait, go where

52:11

do I want to go? Where do I want to go? Where do I want to go?

52:14

All right, let's steck at wide receiver and let's

52:16

talk about the Ravens.

52:19

So you

52:22

know they addressed cornerback

52:24

offensive guard in the first

52:26

and second rounds. I

52:28

trust the process and Baltimore always will,

52:31

but I don't like how it all ended up for Lamar

52:33

here because there's

52:36

a lot. There's a lot being put on Rashad

52:38

Bateman finally becoming that dude first round

52:40

pick back in twenty twenty one.

52:42

Do I trust Zay Flowers? Yeah?

52:43

Do I think Zay Flowers can progress and

52:46

even become a star.

52:47

Yes?

52:47

But then after Zay and after

52:50

of course Mark Andrews, you

52:52

have again Bateman, you

52:55

have Nelson Aguilar, you have

52:57

a fourth round pick, devontees Walker,

53:00

you know Darthrow, Deontay

53:03

Hardy, Tylan Wallace.

53:06

You have a bunch of guys, just a bunch

53:09

of dudes kind of back where you were. And here's

53:11

the issue.

53:12

I'm not going to go crazy in the sense

53:14

that if you have what Lamar

53:17

brings to the table, and you have Mark

53:19

Andrews, who is one of the best playmaking tight

53:22

ends in the sport, and Zay who could

53:24

become like a all pro type

53:26

player if things go the right way, but this

53:28

team, to me, is still one injury

53:30

away to either of those guys to being right

53:32

back to where they always seem to be where they

53:35

are shorthanded and struggling,

53:37

perhaps in January, to find a way

53:39

to make the offense go.

53:40

So why why are we not learning?

53:43

Like to me, the Miami Dolphins is another example

53:45

from what happened in their last game

53:47

moving forward, I just don't get it.

53:49

I'm with you. I do wonder if.

53:53

They felt like there was a receiver drop off

53:56

before they ended up taking Nate Wiggins with

53:58

the thirty pick. He

54:01

was a cornerback and like they were pretty interesting receivers

54:03

on the board Ken Coleman and we saw Lagett

54:05

and who went in the second round. But I would

54:07

have thought they would have liked to get out of that that

54:09

pick with the receiver, because

54:12

that's it's not a great group and you're

54:14

going into the season with major questions there

54:16

and on the offensive line where the guard positions

54:18

and right tackle or shaky they they

54:21

weirdly have more questions to me than

54:24

a lot of the AFC, like good

54:26

teams, And yet I see that they're like they're

54:29

over under and it's not showing up in Vegas

54:31

yet, like they're being seen as this, Like we're

54:33

coming off a one seed and we're the favorite

54:36

in the AFC North in our over unders eleven

54:38

and a half, and I'm not so sure they have a lot

54:40

of questions.

54:40

They're always a team that it's gonna find like two or

54:42

three guys between now and the

54:45

start of the season that plugs some holes. But I think

54:47

it's like with offensive line, like where are some of these guys

54:49

gonna go? They drafted Roger Rosengarden,

54:52

Andrew Vorheis, who was a pick last year,

54:54

was injured, is coming back and like getting

54:56

fairly well praised by the coaching staff. But it's

54:59

like there are are a lot of departures here.

55:01

There were like fourteen key figures that left,

55:03

and suddenly the Ravens are back. I think

55:05

there's back where you were at wide receiver. We're like you

55:07

kind of appeased Lamar a year

55:09

ago, and I'm with you on Rashad Bateman. It's

55:11

like there's moments where you see it, but like there's

55:14

no evidence that this guy's going to suddenly make a major

55:16

leap here.

55:17

He's I want to, you know, I want to call him a sunken

55:19

cost, but at a certain point you have to start seeing him,

55:21

stop seeing him as the guy that you wanted him to

55:23

be I'm just looking at his three years in the league. He

55:28

he finally played you know, close to

55:30

a full season last year, sixteen games and

55:32

did not produce at a very high level at all.

55:35

Thirty two or three sixty seven and

55:37

one.

55:38

The season before was you know, injuries

55:41

wiped out most of the year. You know, he only

55:43

started four games as a rookie in twenty one. So it's

55:45

you're really banking on his development

55:47

in this offense. If not, it's a problem,

55:50

Greg, Who's that mark your next?

55:53

You know, a team that like I always feel I'm

55:55

picking on these guys and I'm not trying to, but it's just like it's hard

55:57

to see what's happening here with the Raiders because like,

56:00

fine, even if you like Gardner Minshew, like there's a quarter

56:02

this is one of the weirder quarterback situations

56:05

in the in the league where it's like you have an interim

56:07

coach that became the full time coach and

56:09

you're going into this new campaign and there

56:11

was all this kind of like I like Antonio appears

56:14

more than you, Dan, but I think that the Raiders players

56:16

like them.

56:16

But you're going into a core.

56:17

Into a tough AFC West campaign

56:20

with at best like a C plus

56:22

situation at quarterback, if not a lot worse, especially

56:24

if there's any sort of injury there. They're one, they're

56:27

running back room Alexander Madison,

56:29

not in love with Alexander Madison's You're mere white,

56:31

a mere Abduela right now is listed as their starter

56:33

by PFF. I know that's just I'm not wort of laughing at that.

56:36

That that's funny that that's how that roster looks

56:38

at sure, and I

56:40

mean, it's fine, but I don't I'm not in love with that. But

56:42

then they're at cornerback. They didn't have a chance because they

56:44

you going pad your tight end room. Now,

56:46

I don't rock Bauers make sense, but

56:49

beyond Jack Jones, they are very inexperienced

56:51

at corner. And you're in a you're in a division

56:53

with Justin Herbert. I understand it might be Justin Herbert

56:56

handing the ball off ten times more times a game,

56:58

but you can't get out of the without

57:01

a loaded secondary. And it's guys like

57:03

Nate Hobbs and Jacorey and Bennett. They took a fifth

57:05

round flyer Onto Kamari and Richardson

57:07

there, but it's like that was a need they didn't

57:09

address it correctly because they have so many other

57:12

needs. And the Raiders to me, don't look a lot any

57:14

better than they did at

57:16

the end of last season.

57:17

They didn't want to pay Josh Jacobs. I get

57:19

that. I think actually, no problem with the wise

57:21

move. No problem with that.

57:22

They got Gardner Minshew, who

57:24

played pretty well for the Colts last year,

57:27

and there's a pretty decent chance. It

57:29

sounds like if Michael Pennix or one of those

57:31

other quarterbacks is still on the board when

57:33

the Raiders picked, they would have went in that direction. But

57:35

at least they have a guy in Minshew

57:37

that could hold the fort. So I'm not even going really

57:39

crazy there, even if it's not exciting.

57:42

But you mentioned if you have a huge weakness

57:44

on your team and you have an entire offseason

57:46

to address it, in the back end of their defense,

57:50

it seems like they are very vulnerable.

57:52

I'm always wary of the defense, Like

57:54

you close really strong, you finish

57:56

on a streak, and you just think like that's our defense

57:59

now. It usually doesn't carry

58:01

over, like because on paper, you're right Mark

58:04

talented up front, but the back end is not a

58:06

very talented group. The Bears are

58:08

kind of the other team that stick with me a little bit about

58:11

that. They're just assuming that their defense totally

58:13

cares over but carries over. But they've

58:15

at least invested more in terms of picks

58:17

than the Raiders have.

58:18

All Right, the Bears, Greggy,

58:20

all Right.

58:22

I'm gonna dip into the free

58:24

agency zone again and

58:26

ask where do the cornerbacks go?

58:29

Maybe where do the tackles go?

58:30

Because I think these are the only positions where there's

58:33

actually some players available that

58:35

are worth caring about. Stefan

58:38

Gilmour can still play.

58:40

I mentioned the Packers as a possibility

58:43

in every Packers fan that apparently has

58:45

a Twitter count is like, we roasted him,

58:47

No thanks, I.

58:48

Get you know.

58:48

He had a bad pre like postseason

58:51

game against the Packers.

58:53

I think it was Dantavian Wicks kind of cooked him

58:55

up. Gilmore was a little banged up by the end of the year,

58:57

and that's a risk for an older player. But

58:59

he was a good player last year. He was a plus

59:01

starter, so he'll help some teams somewhere.

59:04

Adri Jackson is available. He can

59:06

still play. I think when he's healthy. Steven

59:08

Nelson is just the guy who fills out like

59:10

a thousand snaps every year and can play a little bit.

59:12

A Kela Weatherspoon was a late signing

59:14

from the Rams last year and played quite well. So those are four

59:16

guys who to me can play some ball

59:19

and are still out there. And then almost

59:21

any team could use cornerbacks, but some

59:23

of the most interesting ones to me would be

59:25

Packers, Colts, Texans, Jags,

59:29

Chargers, I would throw in their Falcons, forty nine

59:32

Ers, Cardinals, Panthers. I mean, there's so many teams that could

59:34

use cornerbacks, but those guys could go in

59:36

and actually help you, I think sooner

59:38

than later, actually step in and help.

59:40

Some of those guys are like waiting till whether

59:42

there's they can up their contract big

59:44

time if there's injuries, or it's like the right team

59:47

suddenly needs them at the closet.

59:49

Right Gilmore and especially Gilmore there I think actually

59:51

will get decent money. By decent, I mean like

59:53

eight million or something like that.

59:55

Yeah, I'll handcuff that with the last one I had, since

59:57

it it's right in this category.

59:59

The jag Wars in their secondary I

1:00:01

reached out to our original

1:00:03

boss, Mark Sessler justin

1:00:05

Hathaway now working up there in the Bay

1:00:08

Area for NBC, and despite

1:00:12

well, he is a Florida on the

1:00:14

Jaguars City Jaguars fan, right,

1:00:17

he's from Florida, justin I feel like every

1:00:19

city you ever.

1:00:19

Mentioned, he knows.

1:00:20

Yeah, he's been there at some point anyway, justin

1:00:23

huge Jags fan. And I asked him, like, what

1:00:25

were your thoughts about their team

1:00:27

and what the holes

1:00:30

were, and he was not thrilled that they

1:00:32

traded back in the first round when

1:00:34

they had a chance to grab both of those top cornerbacks,

1:00:37

and then when they trade back to twenty

1:00:39

three, the Eagles

1:00:43

took one of the big cornerbacks right in front of

1:00:45

him. But then you still had well

1:00:47

Quiny and Mitchell's and the Eagles you had Terry

1:00:49

and Arnold still there. They went with the wide receiver,

1:00:51

and we've talked about that that it felt like the Jags

1:00:54

had got boxed in a little bit after what happened

1:00:56

with Calvin Ridley, So you can't kill him

1:00:58

for that. But then they waited until the third round to

1:01:00

take a corner and then you look at their depth

1:01:02

chart and you look at the team that's coming off very disappointing.

1:01:05

Ending, especially on defense. Ronald

1:01:07

Darby.

1:01:08

They brought in who's, you know, a veteran guy,

1:01:10

but they're asking him to kind of anchor things back

1:01:12

there.

1:01:12

He's been a journey. He's a definition of a journey

1:01:14

right right now.

1:01:15

Where he did a one and done where

1:01:17

in Baltimore last year. So we'll

1:01:20

see what happens with the Jags. But that felt

1:01:22

like a place they maybe should have been more aggressive and

1:01:24

now they are perhaps vulnerable.

1:01:26

Took another one of those teams where like so many

1:01:29

mocks had this type of position cornerback

1:01:31

going to Jacksonville and it doesn't happen right,

1:01:33

and it's like, well, that was a burnie knee.

1:01:35

That's why they were. People were saying that.

1:01:37

There's only so many of these guys out there too. I do

1:01:39

feel like it was a thing this year that free agency

1:01:42

went faster. Guys, there's less

1:01:44

guys maybe that are still out there. But I look at

1:01:46

these three or four guys and think they could help

1:01:48

them. They yeah, they are maybe the number one team

1:01:50

there.

1:01:50

And then maybe on the old a

1:01:52

little more connective tissue here. You

1:01:54

could also at the Jags and their defense. Obviously

1:01:57

they have Josh Allen and he's awesome, but

1:02:00

I don't know if there's some with Trayvon Walker, some

1:02:03

Rashad Bateman DNA there where

1:02:05

they're not willing to admit that he's not going

1:02:07

to be the other guy on the side

1:02:09

across from Allen. So they're rolling with him

1:02:11

and hoping he's going to develop, which makes sense he's

1:02:13

entering what his third year. But they

1:02:16

might not have enough pass rush either,

1:02:19

And these are problems in a division where you

1:02:21

know, it could be tough to defend with

1:02:23

some of the exciting players in really

1:02:26

all everywhere in that division.

1:02:27

Now, with CJ.

1:02:29

Strouds, Rise Richardson coming

1:02:31

back, of course, we shall see.

1:02:33

They also have a new defensive coordinator, Ryan Nielsen.

1:02:35

They fired Mike Caldwell and Nielsen

1:02:38

strong mustache game. If you check out

1:02:40

his profile on the Jaguars website.

1:02:43

Was one of those guys that, like everyone who's a tape

1:02:45

head was like, Wow, I love what Ryan Nielsen

1:02:47

did with the Falcons last year, really creative, Like

1:02:50

really Max dw like did a good job. And then and

1:02:53

I don't really doubt it, but they

1:02:55

were bad defense, So I don't know what to make of it.

1:02:57

That is of them.

1:02:58

I'm looking at this mustache up

1:03:00

here, Greg. It is'srue and trude here,

1:03:02

but that's nice.

1:03:03

It's really something speaking of it's from

1:03:05

seem Valley, which is known it's like the

1:03:07

home of cops in southern

1:03:09

California.

1:03:10

And he kind of looks like a cop.

1:03:12

What the home of like the lot,

1:03:15

No, a lot of cops like live in seem Me Valley.

1:03:17

Oh, it's like a cop haven. Oh yeah, he looks

1:03:19

like and he looks like a twelve year veteran.

1:03:21

A lot of cops in else Goundo too, Uh

1:03:24

do we? I guess well, that little.

1:03:26

That that Eric gave me a good point

1:03:28

as a real so cow guy. There

1:03:31

you go. Yeah, that's good.

1:03:33

My little hometown of Pearl River, New York, a

1:03:36

lot of cops at firefighters took

1:03:38

the Metro North into the city. You

1:03:40

got to be within a certain you

1:03:42

gott to be within a certain demo, like in terms

1:03:45

of mileage from the city, and

1:03:48

my town was just within that limit and

1:03:50

had mass transportation.

1:03:52

That's all part of a tu mark.

1:03:54

I've ridden Metro North probably six hundred

1:03:56

times, and I miss it.

1:03:57

It's wonderful. It's a wonderful way to get around town.

1:04:00

Shout out to the NYPD and New

1:04:02

York Fire Department absolutely for what they do.

1:04:04

Shout out to what they've done North workers

1:04:08

too. Oh, that's one thing we all have in common.

1:04:10

I was taking the Metro North on an

1:04:13

almost daily basis when I was working up at

1:04:15

Ronal World.

1:04:16

That hell. Shout out to New Jersey and NBAC.

1:04:18

They've also dealt with a lot of drunk

1:04:20

people over the years. An angry

1:04:23

businessman going home to

1:04:26

a house that no longer feels like a home.

1:04:28

Everyone would always talk about the bar car because

1:04:31

the bar car was still there when I was there, Like,

1:04:33

shout out to the bark. The actual bar car was

1:04:35

there, but there was no more bar. You were

1:04:37

allowed to drink there, but people would talk about the good

1:04:39

old day.

1:04:40

Well, yeah you could, Like you could you sit there with a

1:04:42

beer with a napkin around it, a canned beer and

1:04:44

just stare out as the you know, the towns float

1:04:46

by you.

1:04:47

It's a nice with your friends, wonderful

1:04:49

thing. Anybody get a PBA card from

1:04:51

a friend of a friend. Yeah, years, I

1:04:53

had it throughout my New York stay. You

1:04:56

got an old guy? What

1:04:59

does it stand for? Pro

1:05:01

Bowlers Association? I

1:05:03

think it's policeman's benevolent.

1:05:05

Oh yeah, well here's the move back then, Like

1:05:07

I remember my dad did this and it was savvy because

1:05:10

you get one of those you do you do donate

1:05:12

to the police, so you've done it, but you get the sticker

1:05:14

that you put on your on your windshield

1:05:17

or on the side, and then they when they when you get pulled

1:05:19

over invariably for speeding, Like the first thing

1:05:21

the cops see is that you donate to the police

1:05:24

and they and you're on your way.

1:05:26

Well, the other one, even if you're a guy, you're it's a little

1:05:28

bit of a tricky move for people I don't know who we're talking about.

1:05:30

A PBA card.

1:05:32

If you know someone that's a cop or is connected to

1:05:34

a cop, you get one of these cards. And then the idea

1:05:36

is if you ever get pulled over when they ask

1:05:38

for license and registration, you

1:05:40

can hand that over, but also hand this card or

1:05:42

flash the card and if if

1:05:45

a cop is cool with it, he'll be like, all right,

1:05:47

it's the same as the stakes, like they you

1:05:50

you want.

1:05:50

This is even the stickers even more subtle. But

1:05:52

then you then you have to make sure well

1:05:56

you also can't have it on a window that rolls down. If the

1:05:58

cops pliny offs. Gotta be some world yeah blast,

1:06:01

they know where to look. Put it on the windshield. But

1:06:03

he's coming from the side. All right, let's let's focus

1:06:05

up. I was gonna mention we mentioned the Texans.

1:06:08

I know, Greg, you've been following this. You are connected

1:06:10

to Mother Japan in always

1:06:13

uh.

1:06:13

C J.

1:06:14

Stroud and MICHAEH. Parsons doing their world

1:06:16

tour and uh. The

1:06:18

new video that's out there now is

1:06:20

Micah Parsons sumo wrestling.

1:06:23

Uh.

1:06:23

And the first round the sumo

1:06:25

wrestler, do you guys see this? Yeah, sumer wrestler

1:06:28

thrashes him and then does like a rock

1:06:30

in the baby thing to Micah. C J.

1:06:32

Stroud almost like encourages the sumo

1:06:34

wrestler to do that too.

1:06:35

Parsons and then he definitely seemed like frenemies

1:06:38

Micah and yeah.

1:06:39

And then Micah and then Micah you

1:06:41

know, hulks up and you know with

1:06:43

the sumo wrestler doesn't realize that MIKEA. Parsons

1:06:45

is one of the greatest athletes uh

1:06:48

known to man, doesn't need direct and then even

1:06:50

with no experience, he takes out

1:06:53

the sumo wrestler in the second round.

1:06:55

I don't know how that how that ended, but I

1:06:57

saw I saw Micah get even.

1:07:00

All right, let's take a break

1:07:02

and we'll close things up. All

1:07:04

right, we are back. We are closing

1:07:07

up shop. We got one more show coming up on

1:07:09

a Thursday, so make sure you tune in

1:07:11

for that.

1:07:14

One more thing I wanted to throw up here. We

1:07:16

have our old friend.

1:07:17

Remember we had a spirited conversation about Bob

1:07:19

Kleinman when we

1:07:21

were in Austin for the iHeart Awards. Yeah,

1:07:24

there were a few drinks that we had that

1:07:27

evening. As I recall, and I came out

1:07:29

in casual conversation is very pro Dob

1:07:32

Kleinman.

1:07:33

Well, because everyone was everywhere was piling

1:07:35

on. So I think you trying to Okay, that's what

1:07:38

I want, Shepherd.

1:07:39

Remember your contrarian spirit

1:07:41

which comes out and Dan sometimes.

1:07:43

Sitting next to you for thirteen years. We'll do

1:07:45

that. Let's throw up a tweet from Dob

1:07:48

Kleinman. This

1:07:50

is great. The Eagles are looking scary

1:07:53

emoji of someone putting their hands over

1:07:55

their face. Super Bowl incoming, and

1:07:57

then it's just a bunch of the Eagles working out in the

1:08:00

Yeah, no one has

1:08:02

thought to lift

1:08:04

weights yet.

1:08:05

And the funny thing is that these aren't overly

1:08:08

advanced workouts.

1:08:09

They look like what you achieve, you

1:08:11

know, young men and women doing in the gym.

1:08:13

I think the I mean, certainly they're stronger, the different

1:08:16

than any other NFL team.

1:08:17

I think it's done the video evidence.

1:08:19

I think Bob on some ways his

1:08:22

Twitter feed and he Bob

1:08:25

was really pumped up about the Tom Brady roast.

1:08:26

By the way.

1:08:27

Also, he's all over my fetus him he

1:08:29

can chill out like you're spamming me on

1:08:31

this. But Dob with

1:08:33

this tweet again, I have to

1:08:36

give credit to to

1:08:39

what the Eagles have been able to pull off. The brainwashing

1:08:42

is complete of public

1:08:46

It's to the point now where someone could

1:08:48

send that tweet out and it's not even

1:08:50

thought to be strange that they had maybe the worst

1:08:52

collapse.

1:08:52

Well, he's getting history gotten for this tweet

1:08:55

that Like, why are you saying, yeah.

1:08:57

It's been so forgotten that Bob could

1:08:59

send that out without even thinking that something

1:09:02

bad happened at the end of the previous season that

1:09:04

would maybe cause one to think that they

1:09:06

wouldn't be obvious Super Bowl favorites.

1:09:09

Well in a way, you had to love this. Thank you to literally.

1:09:12

Everyone who sent that to me, which is everyone

1:09:14

on Twitter. I felt like sent me that Dove

1:09:16

tweet.

1:09:17

You have to adore this because it backs up your

1:09:19

general offseason theory.

1:09:20

And it's started that whole operation.

1:09:22

It's so it's so like the

1:09:25

theory has become so hardened

1:09:27

now that it's it's bulletproof, like

1:09:30

nothing can get through it.

1:09:31

I did love first of all,

1:09:33

the how Hee comments that look

1:09:35

when they signed Saquon Barkley, we

1:09:37

were zigging when the rest of the zagging.

1:09:40

I like that, But I'm.

1:09:41

Giving a thirty year old running back with no

1:09:43

I need twenty five million guaranteed.

1:09:46

What is zig First of all, brilliant?

1:09:49

First of all, saquad Barkley is twenty

1:09:51

seven years old. Let's not let's not get

1:09:53

crazy. There is a running

1:09:56

back tax plus three video put

1:09:58

together that's part of the Eagles

1:10:00

kind of like behind the scenes draft room

1:10:02

of like it's almost like Howie

1:10:06

porn essentially, and which.

1:10:08

Is seriously the last porn

1:10:10

one would ever want to watch.

1:10:11

I would agree, And it's behind

1:10:13

the scenes and people just were loving

1:10:16

it. And our friend Evan Silva quote retweet

1:10:18

it. You could check it out on his Twitter. Watch how he cook

1:10:20

few smartest gm in the NFL.

1:10:23

And it's just it's just even got that behind

1:10:25

the scenes and am looking Cooper Dizine.

1:10:27

They even got Evan Silva. Silva, that's

1:10:29

where talked him up a number.

1:10:31

But this is not the first year that he's been

1:10:33

fascinated with the Eagle.

1:10:35

The only thing, the only thing I need now is

1:10:38

for Joel EMBII to

1:10:40

guarantee the Eagles go to the Super Bowl and

1:10:42

that it is complete, the circle has been completed.

1:10:45

Well, you don't have to worry about you are flushed with

1:10:47

personal vendettas. You

1:10:49

got it you had. I've been sitting next to you for thirteen

1:10:51

years. I

1:10:54

just see how I think, we see how you how you operate,

1:10:57

you do Yeah, and you love it me

1:11:00

for it. I almost wondered.

1:11:02

They've they've asked if Shakespeare was quietly

1:11:04

like twelve incredible authors, not one.

1:11:07

I don't buy into that at all. I think that's nonsense.

1:11:09

But like maybe dove climbing is like sort

1:11:11

of a a group of people.

1:11:12

Because there's the tweeting is happening in twenty

1:11:15

four to seven.

1:11:15

Yeah, and he's a shadowy figure I think based

1:11:18

in Israel.

1:11:18

We've been talking right across the sea. All right, let's

1:11:20

book him on the show immediately. Eric,

1:11:22

let's get to work on that. We can. All

1:11:25

right, why are you uncomfortable with Dob

1:11:27

talk?

1:11:28

You know, if you if you followed, if

1:11:30

you're if you haven't mwed or blocked him, that's

1:11:32

on you.

1:11:33

You can't, I mean, you enjoy him.

1:11:35

Dob's out there, you know, he's out

1:11:37

there doing the Lord's work, aggregating away.

1:11:40

Yep, you came from Pro Football Talk,

1:11:42

Greg, that's an aggregator yourself.

1:11:43

I came from Rohta World, the original,

1:11:47

the originators of aggregation. All

1:11:50

right, that's it, let's wrap it up. We

1:11:52

had a code, final thought for you, Greg, We had a code.

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We had a code. That's it.

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Important, man has a code. It's important. Insiders

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have a coat. Pie it all together.

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I have no regrets. All

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right till Thursday. See the

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call