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The art world is an unregulated
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business billions of dollars.
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It is essentially a money laundering
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business. You're working with an artificial
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scarcity of market, and so it's
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fraud, with people
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cutting corners and things
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happening. It
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was when Ann
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Friedman, then the newly minted
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director of the Knoedler Gallery,
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first met Gafa Rosales
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had a soho art opening. Larry
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Reuben had been pushed out of Knoedler a
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year earlier in a coup that ended
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with Ann Friedman being installed at
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the blessing of Michael Hammer. K
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Nodler's sales were flat, the
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clients were leaving in droves, and
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Ann Friedman needed new work to
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help propel the gallery forward. The
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Knoedler, always one step
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behind the times, was hurtling
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towards the art world of a new millennium.
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The galleries long time assistant him
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Andrade, had introduced Ann
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to the soft spoken, polite woman of
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Mexican heritage. As
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fate would have it, Gfia Rosalez
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had two works of art on paper she
1:16
wanted to sell. About.
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All that anyone could agree on was
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that hime Andrade was a shy Ecuadorian
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man of modest height. He was one
1:27
of eleven children who had come to New
1:29
York in the early nineteen sixties and
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found a home in a circle of artificionados.
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He'd made his way to Larry Ruben's gallery
1:39
one Street and worked
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as the galley's driver. Reuben
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had then brought him over to Knoedler as a sort
1:45
of jack of old trades. His job
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was to do pretty much whatever anyone wanted
1:50
him to do. As Anne
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put it in one of her interviews for Vanity
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Fair, he would do everything from changing
1:57
light fixtures to running errands.
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But he always wore a blazer and a tie
2:02
and went to fancy dinner parties and escorted
2:05
well to do women. He was like a
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mascot, but I mean that in a respectful
2:09
way. He epitomized the spirit
2:12
of the gallery. Despite
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a faulty grasp of English. After
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half a century, Hymie was perfectly
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capable of charming one of those women into
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buying a painting from Knodler. Andrade's
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greatest passion was Latin American
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art. As late as two thousand
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eleven, while the forgery ring was metastasizing
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amid criminal investigations, the
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boyish Andrade gave a talk about
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Ecuadorian art and his fifty
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years of immersion in it at the
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mid Manhattan Library. The
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Knottler, in a press release for
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it, would describe Andrott's long
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time friend and dealer David
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Herbert as quote one of the best
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American portrait artists. Unquote
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that was patently untrue.
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But Herbert, upon his death, would
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be cast in another role as
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a central figure in the back story of
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Knoedler's conspiracy of fakes,
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possibly aided and embedded by
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hime Andrade, who had just become
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David Herbert's executor. With boxes
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of documents rich in art world
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lore, Anne would
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never quite come out and say explicitly
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that him may have steered her to the papers
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that gave rise to a conspiracy ring
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of art forgers, but more than
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one Knodler's staffer would take umbrage
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at the way Anne defended him less than
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forcefully in Vanity Fair. Was
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Anne implying that hime Andrade
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had introduced her to Glafia Rosales
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knowing the two works at issue were
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fake, or had him
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done no more than to introduce his boss
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to a Mexican woman who shared his love
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of Latin American arts. Here
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again is writer Michael Schneyerson. Leslie
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Feeley took a dim review of Anne and her
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treatment of Himie. She said Anne
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treated Himie more like a gopher than a
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mascot. Quote. He was
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a very kind, dignified man, but
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Anne would send him out to get her tampons.
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Unquote. He had a poor education
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the legacy of his childhood in Ecuador.
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Jimmy was a gopher. He that's he
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was. He was going and
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he got to know a lot of people in
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the art business. He had more aught
4:29
in his home, but all South America.
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That's the Noteler's art handler Joe
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Stevens Andrade rented
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a ground floor apartment in an ornate
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but musty rental building at seventeen
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East seventieth Street, literally
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next door to the Noodler. He seemed
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to like being on call for whatever
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needs a rose. I used
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to stay there whenever I had openings because
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I worked so late. And now
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I used to go and wife said, man, I'm gonna
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come, I'm saying, Heimie's Chris, Jimmy.
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We'd go a call out and have you know,
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you know, at ten o'clock, ten thirty at night, after
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we locked up and tell me
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about the apartment that he had. There was
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stuffed, like this place is three
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four times bigger than his apartment. He had a huge
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and art work everywhere.
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Fifty pieces on the wall is big. He
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had all this African
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South American sculptures
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everywhere, boxes everywhere. You
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couldn't put another thing on that counter. That's
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a pack. He had
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closets filled with
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this stuff. He was like, it looked like aoid up
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who did everything. Rosales
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and Androde had struck up a friendship
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based on Latin American artist sometime
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in the late es. At
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some point, Rosals mentioned she was trying
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to sell two works on paper by
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Richard deepen Corn, the great abstract
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artist represented for years by the Knodler
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Gallery until Larry reuben
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departure and Anne's promotion did
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I may think Ann Friedman might take a look
6:05
and tell Glyphira what she thought. This
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was a pivotal moment the first
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time Glypira Rosalee focused
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on Ann Friedman as her target for
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newly minted forgeries. Soon
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enough, and Friedman found herself looking
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at a pair of classic deepen Corn drawings.
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Sadly, that great profusion of Ocean
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Park paintings and drawings. All
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those Christmas mornings the staff had
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described opening brand new deep In corn
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work had come to an end. Deep
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In Corn had died in and
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his daughter Gretchen and son in law Richard
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Grant, co heads of the Artists
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Foundation, had ended the galleries
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long association with Deepen Corn. They
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didn't much like Ann Friedman. They
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liked her even less after the coup that
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put her in charge. Still,
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Nodler was widely known as Eben Corn's
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main gallery. There would be
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no more primary works directly from
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the artist, but secondary works,
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those that had changed hands at least once,
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were fair game for anyone who wanted to
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buy or sell them, and Nodler
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could put buyers and sellers together as
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well or better than anyone else, given
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its history with the artist. So when
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hera offered to show Anne too Deepen
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Corns, the Nodler's director jumped
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at the chance. Days
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after Anne's coup in November, a
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certain calm had come over the Kndler
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Gallery. Larry Reuben had even
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agreed to stay on as director until the last
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day of the year. The old
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art world War horse had recovered
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his spirits somewhat and shrugged off
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the coup. Perhaps it was time
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for him to leave Ndler after all. Gracefully,
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he even did Ann Friedman a favor by
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agreeing to take a look at the too Deepened
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Corn works on paper. Like
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most of Deep and Corn's work since the
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mid nineteen sixties, these were geometrical
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abstractions from his Ocean Park series.
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When Anne asked where they'd come from, Rosals
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demurred. Regrettably. She
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said her client wanted to remain
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anonymous. That
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was hardly unusual for works brought in by
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perfect strangers. Unfortunately,
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neither of the drawings had identifying marks
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on their verso verso is
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what dealers call the back of an artwork,
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no record of the works tracing back to the
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artists studio. There was no trace
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of later buyers and sellers, no
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auction markings either. In
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a word, the drawings had no
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provenance. That was a
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problem.
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So what is provenance. It's
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the paper trail of what we know about an
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artwork, starting from the time it was created.
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It tells us who owned it, when it was sold,
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where it was shown, and so forth. Had
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Deep and Corn been alive, the issue
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of provenance for these works would
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have been moot after all, the artist
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was the best judge of his own work. He
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could say in an instant whether these two
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drawings were done by his hand or
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not. When an artist died,
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the primary work he left behind in
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his studio or home was
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easy to judge and usually genuine
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too, so it wasn't difficult for
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the artist's family or executor to
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authenticate those works and record
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them for posterity. The
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challenge came with secondary works
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sold after the artist's death, works
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bought and sold and bought again, works
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that sometimes vanished and then reappeared.
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Were they real or not? An artist
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like Deep and Corn post a special
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challenge. His Ocean Park
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works were all beautiful, but also
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quite similar. Larry
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Reuben, as it turned out, was underwell by
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the Ocean park esque drawings,
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and Freedman showed him quote
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I told her I did not think they were good,
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Reuben later told Vanity Fair, which
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was to say, I thought they were fake.
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He said the gallery couldn't or certainly
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shouldn't sell them.
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Not long after, Deep and Corn's
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widow, Phillis, paid a visit to
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the Noddler with her daughter Gretchen, and
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Friedman had called the drawings to their attention.
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And the family were worried about them.
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When Anne laid them out on a table at the gallery,
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Gretchen and Phillis stared at those
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drawings for a long time. They
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looked quite good. We really, we're
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pretty impressed. It was
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clearly a beautiful piece. I
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am Gretchen deep and Corn
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Grant. My father is Richard
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Deepon Corn. Despite
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the exceptional quality of the works,
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the family felt they were not authentic.
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You could see the hand of the forger
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in both of them. You
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look at someone's work
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long enough in my entire
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life. I'm seventy six
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years old, so I
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was alive during my
11:14
father's career, and
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you have a sense of
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it. Not perfect, but
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you do have a pretty good sense. What
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I said to and at the time
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was that the problem for me was that they
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didn't have any soul. They
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didn't seem to breathe. I just
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couldn't relate to it, even though it
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was clearly a beautiful piece, and
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reactions surprised them. She didn't
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even thank them for calling attention to what might
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be fake Deepen corns. Neither
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did she suggest she would hand them back
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to their owner, whoever they might be.
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The whole question of what the nobler might
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do with them was simply not addressed.
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Of course, she didn't say
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to in Freedman, I think they're fake,
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because you know, in the art world you
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cannot call something a fake because
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if you do so, you might be sued
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for defamation of property. So
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people are very careful. Just
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Seli Reggaeteo is a reporter
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currently with the Center for Investigative Reporting.
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She pursued the note of story for several years
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and came up with a few scoops, starting
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with the story of Dr Bernard Krueger.
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They might say this doesn't look right,
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but you don't quite say this is fake. So it's
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quite interesting that I talked to both Russian
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Demonquirn as she was seeing
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this this pieces as they were about
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to be sold, and then I
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also talked to Bernard Krueger, who was looking
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at the pieces from the buyer's perspective.
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And in both instances,
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you see there were several things
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strange about this. You know, where
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they were coming from, how they
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looked, how much they were being offered.
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All of those things adopts
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to you know, there's something
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strange happening here. Here's
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Francis Beatty again. I
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do remember going to a Deep and Corn
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show of Deep and Corn works on
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paper and someone saying
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to me, you have to be super
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careful because you want to make
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sure that you're not buying one of
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the things that the family has
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disavowed. And the
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idea that you would
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show something, let alone
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sell it, that the family of
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the artist has disavowed,
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is absolutely shocking. I mean, you
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have a responsibility to your client,
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and if something has a cloud
13:49
over it, the cloud is never going
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to disperse. Since
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the drawings were secondary market works,
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the family couldn't keep Ann Friedman from
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doing what she wanted with them, which was, of
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course, to sell them,
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as Larry Reuben later told Vanity
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Fair, and Friedman could justify
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selling those two drawings because the
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artist's wife had not called them fake,
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nor had Larry Reuben. I wasn't
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one sure they weren't real,
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Reuben explained later. And you
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can get into a lot of trouble by declaring
14:26
something as fake when you don't have the hard
14:28
evidence. And since I was leaving, I
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said to Anne, fine, you handle
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it, and she did.
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Despite the doubts expressed by the family,
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and Friedman sold the Deep and Corn drawings
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to the perfect buyer. More
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art fraud in a minute. Not
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long after the Deep and Corn Family's
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disconcerting visit to Knoedler, a
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doctor named Bernard Krueger received
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a phone called he never expected to get.
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Krueger was a collector, perhaps
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not a great collector, but an eager
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one, especially in regard to
15:09
which your deep in Corn's work. He liked
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to think he had an inside track. He
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was, after all, and Friedman's
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doctor. He told
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me he loved Devon Coorn's work for many years,
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and at the time he was alive
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in the nineties, and even before
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that, I think he started buying the first diven Corns
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in the eighties. He had to
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go through Knodler because at the time
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Richard Devon Corn was alive and
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Knodler represented him.
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And what Ben Krueger told
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me is that every time he wanted
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to buy a piece, it was not easy. You
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would think you have money, you want
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to buy a piece of art, You walk in and say,
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I want this, But that's not how
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it works in the art world. You know, there is
15:53
no like free market, or
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you know, they sell for whoever they
15:58
want to sell, and they might give up price to
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me and a different price to you. And
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the way that Bernard described
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to me is that Ann Friedman was quite difficult
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and quite protective, and
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she would say to him, no, you cannot
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buy this one. If you want, you can buy this other
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one. He said to me, I
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would need to beg to buy,
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and sometimes she would let me buy, and
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sometimes she wouldn't. And I asked
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him why why would she do that? And he
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said, well, that was her way of having
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power and having control. Despite
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having an inside track as Hans
16:33
doctor, Bernard Krueger was having
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a difficult time purchasing a work from
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the artist he most coveted. Surprisingly,
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all of that would change after Deep
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and Corn passed away in early and
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all of a sudden, Bernard Krueger
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gets a call from Knoedler saying,
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we have the two different corns for you to
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see. You know, they
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just came in. I think you would like it. I
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was a ready, like, wait a minute, don't
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you think that was change? For
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years you've been begging to buy a dipping corn.
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All of a sudden they're calling you and offer
17:09
you a dipping corn. And he said
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no. I thought I was great. I thought I was finally
17:13
getting a good deal on a dipping corn, because
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he bought one of them and that was one
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of the fakes. If
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I remember the numbers right. He told
17:24
me the last deep and Corn he had bought for
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like a hundred twenty five hundred
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thirty five thousand, and that
17:30
one he bought for eighty thou dollars.
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So again he was thrilled. He's like, all of a
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sudden, I'd been offered a deep and corn, and
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it's cheaper than the last one I bought.
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Nadler did well by those two Deepen
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Corn sales, earning forty five thousand
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dollars on each. When
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word of the sale reached the Deep and Corn
17:51
family, they were shocked, As
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the late artist's daughter Gretchen said,
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we thought, being the naive people we
17:58
were and being honest, we basically
18:01
thought she would simply return them and that would
18:03
be that. Instead, she
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wrote a letter to my
18:08
mother and to me that
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we had come
18:13
to the gallery and authenticated
18:16
these works, and therefore she had sold
18:18
them, and we
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were very distressed. I wanted
18:22
to write to Anne and
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tell her that this was not okay,
18:26
and that we had not authenticated them.
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She can sell whatever she wants, but she
18:31
can't say that we authenticated it. And
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my mother was very
18:38
shy about being
18:41
in an antagonistic position with
18:43
anybody, and she
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really didn't want me to
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write on behalf of myself or
18:50
on behalf of her, and
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so that was dropped. Later,
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Dr Krueger would say he had sold the
18:59
work and had no idea where they
19:01
were. Perhaps, But
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over the next fifteen years, the Deepened
19:06
Corns would routinely hear of fake
19:08
Deepen Corn works on paper popping
19:11
up in the market. Each
19:13
new appearance meant that some new owner
19:16
was trying to unload his Deepen Corns,
19:18
either with or without the knowledge that
19:20
they were fake. When
19:23
the works once again vanished, the
19:26
implication was just as clear. Some
19:28
new owner had been duped or worse,
19:31
set out to con his own next prospective
19:34
buyer. In
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the years to come, stories like that
19:40
would find their way to the Deepen Corn Foundation
19:43
on a regular basis. Eventually,
19:46
the family counted some two d and fifty
19:48
deep in Corn images around the world,
19:51
submitted for authentication or
19:53
just out of curiosity. They
19:55
ranged from the occasional top
19:57
drawer forgery to when art students
20:00
homage for class credit left
20:02
in a garage to be celebrated
20:04
briefly as the real McCoy.
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Times were tough in the art market of and
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few galleries were feeling it as much as Noler,
20:16
which had little to live on after Larry
20:18
Reuben's departure other than its reputation
20:20
and venerability. I
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mean, she wasn't making much money
20:25
at I mean business wasn't
20:27
good, and so
20:30
she needs something was needed, something
20:33
really special. Money was needed. Still,
20:37
Anne seemed to harbor lingering concerns about
20:40
those works. Perhaps she was eager
20:42
to prove their authenticity to herself and
20:44
to pave the way for more paintings from Glafira
20:47
Rosales. Surely Coalfia could
20:49
share with Anna telling detail or two
20:51
details to assure her the works had
20:54
some shred of provenance. Gently,
20:59
but firmly, Glyphia declined
21:01
to say anything about where the
21:03
deep and corn drawings had come from.
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She would only say she was representing a
21:09
man she called Mr X Junior,
21:12
whose parents had passed on to their son
21:15
more paintings by some of the
21:17
best known artists of the post
21:19
war period. Soon
21:21
enough, Anne was calling him Mr X
21:23
Junior too, and referring to his
21:26
parents as Mr. And Mrs X.
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It sounded a bit silly, but maybe
21:31
a fan played ball Glyphia might introduce
21:34
Anne to Mr X Juniorphia
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did say that Mr X Junior had
21:39
more works to sell if they could
21:41
be placed discreetly. These
21:44
were works that had been long stored
21:46
by Mr X hermetically sealed.
21:49
Even Glafira had
21:51
said the paintings had been in storage for
21:53
so long that critics and collectors
21:56
would be thrilled to see these lost
21:58
masterpieces finally unwrapped.
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I have never, and I actually
22:04
don't have any colleagues who
22:06
I know, who have regularly
22:10
managed to obtain from
22:12
a private person a picture
22:15
for let's say two
22:17
hundred thousand dollars that then
22:19
they could sell for eight hundred thousand
22:22
dollars. I mean, it just simply
22:25
doesn't happen. If
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somebody came to me and
22:31
said, I want to sell
22:34
you this Cliford
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Still, and I know
22:38
that the Cliford Stills fair
22:41
market price would be a million,
22:44
and they say to me, well,
22:47
I'm going to sell it to you for two hundred thousand,
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I would think immediately that it
22:52
was hot. What
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other conclusion. It's the same
22:58
in any business. I think if
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you're a diamond merchant, somebody comes
23:02
to you with the diamond, and they're
23:05
selling it to you for of
23:08
its real value. You would assume
23:10
that there was something wrong with it. You say
23:12
no, thank you. And
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if you bought a painting by mistake, letting
23:20
your passions get the better of you, what
23:22
would you do when you came to your senses. These
23:25
things once in a while happened to dealers.
23:28
You just you make a mistake, but
23:31
the minute you do, you recognize
23:34
it, you give the money back. You
23:36
know you, you take it, and
23:38
you learn from it. Otherwise you
23:40
lose your reputation completely
23:43
and utterly. So that's one of the really
23:46
key things. It
23:49
wasn't long before fa Rosalez
23:52
was back in the Nler, this time
23:54
with a painting by abstract expressionist
23:56
Mark Rothko under her arm.
23:59
It was a beautiful work, has Anne
24:02
described it later, with dark
24:04
orbs against a pale pink peach
24:06
backdrop, and like the
24:08
Deepen Corns, it had no provenance
24:11
other than the link to Mr and Mrs
24:13
X. I think that they
24:16
were the consortium, not just Cliff
24:18
ear Right. They created
24:21
paintings that were actually quite
24:23
smart because they were
24:25
very highly valued. I'm
24:27
Maria Condakova, I'm an author journalist
24:30
and psychologist, the author most
24:32
recently of the Biggest Bluff and also most
24:34
relevant to this, the confidence game. I
24:38
mean, let's be honest, Abstract expressionism
24:41
is not necessarily the most technically
24:44
advanced paintings. Now I'm not saying
24:46
that Rothco is not technically advanced. He is.
24:48
He could paint anything. But for
24:51
someone who's not, you know, incredibly
24:53
technically advanced painters,
24:55
probably easier to create a Rothco
24:58
than a rum round one. That
25:00
I think you said in your book, it's
25:03
very important for the con artists not
25:05
to move too quickly. That was the
25:07
whole part of the what I think you call the long
25:09
con. Something
25:11
that con artists, the good con artists
25:14
have in abundance is patients.
25:17
Some cons take decades to
25:19
play out all the way. So you really
25:21
need to be able to see the long game and
25:24
not just be in it for you know, the immediate
25:26
profit. You need to be able to see
25:29
how does this play out over time? And
25:31
one thing that you have to hand to life
25:33
Era is you know, she didn't just do
25:36
her homework on and she did her
25:38
homework on the art mark and how that world
25:40
works and what people
25:42
expect if you walk in
25:45
right away with twenty
25:47
roth Goes and a few Pollocks in there,
25:49
someone's gonna say, Okay, hold on
25:52
one second, we're gonna do some very heavy
25:54
duty analysis on this, but one
25:56
at a time. Lost treasures,
25:59
you know, we really don't want to part with them, but
26:02
we're we're selling them piecemeal. That's
26:05
much more compelling and invites less scrutiny.
26:07
And she's also building the market
26:10
for herself because now,
26:13
even though there was originally no provenance,
26:16
now a lot of these pieces are
26:18
in collections and some
26:21
end up making it two shows and to museums,
26:24
and so that creates the
26:26
provenance that this is the collection
26:28
of Mr. X. And some
26:30
of these have already been validated by
26:33
some of the leading galleries and museums
26:35
and collectors in the world. I
26:38
think that if someone brought
26:41
me a Rothco who
26:43
I didn't know and who
26:45
had no kind of
26:47
bona fidees in the art
26:49
world, I would be very
26:52
suspicious. Where did this person
26:54
get it? And it was stolen?
26:57
I mean, you don't just go
26:59
oneer around with Rothko's right,
27:05
and did show the painting to Christopher
27:07
Rothko, son of the late artist,
27:09
who professed to find it beautiful That
27:12
was enough for Anne. She
27:15
bought the painting for one dollars
27:17
from Rosalis. She sold it to
27:20
the Michelle Rosenfeld Gallery for
27:22
three thousand dollars
27:24
for a gross profit of one hundred nine
27:28
Later, when she heard about the sale, Francis
27:31
Beatty found Anne's strategy
27:33
underwhelming. If
27:36
she showed it to Christopher
27:38
Rothko, I would say that would
27:40
be a good first step. But
27:43
that doesn't tell you where it came from.
27:46
That doesn't tell you that the person has
27:48
good title to it. You
27:50
know that you would have to investigate.
27:55
A few people knew that Nodler was starting
27:57
to deal in works without any provenance.
28:00
The circle had been confined to Glypha
28:02
and any confederates she might have, as
28:05
well as the staffers at the gallery, who
28:07
could gossip but hardly take on their imperious
28:09
boss. Leslie Feely recalled
28:12
seeing one of the Rothcoes brought in by
28:14
Gpa. I
28:16
just walked in and saw this great
28:19
red painting, presuming
28:21
to be a Rothco. I
28:24
just couldn't even look at it because
28:27
it was so garish
28:30
and so not by
28:32
Rothko, and they were selling it
28:35
for at the time million
28:37
dollars. It was not that large
28:40
and it was clearly a fake.
28:44
None of these paintings had any provenance,
28:46
at least of the kind that the art market expected,
28:49
Nor were any in the catalog resume of
28:52
Mark Rothko or the soon to be
28:54
completed catalog resume for the late
28:56
Richard Diebencorn. How
28:58
could it an organization and not check
29:02
the provenance. That's what you're supposed
29:04
to do for an art fairy, supposed to check the provenance
29:06
on any painting, particularly a Rothco.
29:10
And there it was. Nobody took it out, just
29:13
sitting there. But
29:17
just to play devil's advocate here, many paintings
29:20
must meet the market with no provenance because
29:22
the artist has just finished them, or or
29:24
maybe he put them aside and got bored with his
29:26
painting. In the old days, you
29:28
had to ask Jeane thaw On Francis
29:31
O'Connor to write an attestation.
29:34
I mean recently, there are lots
29:37
of states that don't want to write
29:39
authenticity, which is very
29:41
problematic. And so
29:43
what you do is you
29:46
get people in, you sit them
29:48
down and you say, I'm worried
29:50
about this. You know, this is
29:52
a picture which has been offered to me. I
29:55
think it looks beautiful, but it
29:58
has I have no proven it's
30:00
on it, and I really need
30:02
to know what you think
30:04
about it. You ask
30:06
a couple of people, and
30:09
you do your due diligence
30:11
because you're on the line for it. One
30:16
of the most important aspects of provenance
30:18
is in an artwork by a great established
30:21
artist be readily found, and
30:23
that artists catalog resume. A
30:27
catalog resume is done
30:29
by scholars or a family in
30:31
which they
30:33
try to write down
30:36
every single picture that
30:38
to date has been attributed
30:41
to this artist and that they think
30:44
is legitimate. And typical
30:46
catalog resume is like the Pollock catalog
30:49
resume. It says where
30:51
the work comes from in scrupulous
30:54
detail. Sometimes it says
30:57
whether it's been repainted, whether
30:59
it was in a fire. I mean,
31:01
you try to get as much information
31:04
as you possibly can. You
31:06
try to document every
31:09
single picture by that artist.
31:12
You also have to be sure
31:14
that you're passing something that's
31:16
legitimate or is
31:19
considered legitimate
31:21
by the authorities. Of
31:25
course, it does sometimes happen that a painting
31:27
lacks any provenance. It's rare, but
31:30
it happens. So what do you do? Start
31:33
calling in the experts and hopefully get
31:35
them to look at the actual work, Invite
31:37
them to a gallery opening, Steer them
31:39
to your newly acquired Barnett Newman A Rothko.
31:42
Is there anything wrong with doing what she did?
31:45
As far as that goes, one could argue
31:47
that Anne and asking the depon Corn family
31:49
to look at those two works on paper was
31:52
acting quite properly. No, there's
31:54
nothing wrong with doing that. I mean, you want
31:56
to know what distinguished
32:00
scholars and what
32:02
people who are regarded to
32:04
have what we call the art business
32:07
a good eye, in other words,
32:09
they have, you have some reason to
32:12
believe that you
32:14
would risk your reputation
32:17
on their say so. I
32:22
guess one important nuance of this is
32:25
that if you want to get that expert's
32:27
opinion, you are upfront about
32:29
asking him, rather than sort
32:32
of inveigling him to come into
32:34
your office after hours while everyone's
32:36
downstairs having a glass of wine, and
32:39
you show this picture and the expert
32:41
says, oh, that's a nice picture, how
32:43
beautiful. That
32:46
is not the same thing as
32:48
authentication, which is sort of the ultimate
32:50
stamp of approval. This is just an
32:53
expert, perhaps caught a bit away
32:56
from office hours, and saying that looks
32:58
like a nice painting. It's not roof. Could
33:00
there ever be a situation where you've got enough signatures
33:03
from experts that people would
33:05
say, yes, that's real. I
33:07
mean, now we all know you have it
33:10
forensically tested. I mean, if
33:12
you have such a picture that has
33:14
no provenance and you are very suspicious
33:17
about you get it on
33:19
consignment from whoever
33:21
it is, and you have
33:23
it tested, you have to get
33:26
a complete consensus. You
33:28
have to have every single person
33:31
who could question such a thing
33:34
in line. And then of course you have the whole
33:36
issue. Can you pass good title to
33:38
this picture? Which is I
33:41
think just as problematic
33:44
and far more frightening. You
33:47
are passing good title
33:50
and guaranteeing
33:52
the authenticity and
33:55
the title. That's what the uniform
33:59
code said, as you were doing if you
34:01
write an invoice.
34:08
The staffers learned to keep their distance
34:11
when Rosaliss name was
34:13
mentioned. Whenever something about the
34:15
Rosales works was discussed. One staffer
34:17
said that was a closed door meeting
34:20
for Anne. That
34:23
was unusual at all. Other times
34:26
the door to Anne's second floor office
34:28
was open. Sign new House would
34:30
step over a rope and come on in. A
34:33
staffer recalls of the publishing
34:35
mogul, so the door was only closed
34:38
for certain sensitive meetings. It
34:41
was around this time that
34:43
Anne and Glepa held a staff meeting to
34:45
discuss how many paintings remained in
34:48
the mysterious collection. Rosales
34:50
identified approximately eight works that were still
34:52
available. There
34:55
is another still a Gottlieb
34:57
too, decoon ngs a motherwell
34:59
a new whom in one or two Caldlers.
35:02
That's attorney Emily rice Baum.
35:04
Over a decade later, at trial, attorneys
35:07
Gregory Claric, Aaron Crowle, and
35:09
Emily would present evidence of handwritten
35:12
notes of this infamous meeting. The lawyers
35:14
noted something peculiar about cafe as purported
35:17
inventory, and then
35:19
Anne asks is
35:21
there a pollock? And lo and behold
35:23
it all says I'll go check, yeah,
35:26
let me check. She was not
35:28
on her list. You would think if she had a Jackson
35:30
Pollock, she would come in and say
35:32
she had a Jackson Pollock. And then it's
35:35
you know, two years later, having
35:38
gone to none, she suddenly has five. Did
35:42
someone did discover a missing
35:44
pollock in their attic? Once every
35:46
decade or so, does something like
35:48
that pop up? A Rothcoe that roughly traded
35:50
with his dentist for some dental work? Does
35:52
that pop up. Sure, you know there's
35:55
one here and there's one there, But
35:57
are there three? Are there? Fo I
36:00
from the same source, are there eight?
36:02
Are there twelve? Or there twenty? Are
36:04
there forty one? Literally?
36:07
Never, Despite
36:09
her initial estimate of having eight paintings
36:11
in the collection, Gafa would manage
36:14
to deliver over thirty more works to Knodler,
36:16
including five supposed Jackson Pollock's,
36:21
surprisingly and treated Kndler's
36:23
own artists just as harshly
36:25
as she treated the galleries assistance and
36:29
just trashed her own artists, every
36:31
single one of them. Knodler artist
36:34
Donald Sultan later said she
36:36
would never answer phone calls. She
36:38
was completely disinterested in the artist
36:41
she had. She kind of ignored everyone
36:43
who was there. All her dealings
36:45
were secretive, Sultan said. According
36:48
to Sultan, and was out of her depth.
36:50
After Larry Reuben's departure, Sultan
36:53
said it was as if the director
36:56
of the Metropolitan Museum of Art was
36:58
like Philippe de Montebelle, deciding
37:00
that he's going to turn the thing over to the secretary.
37:05
According to one staffer who worked closely
37:07
with her, Anne was not above dramatizing
37:10
a story to sell a painting. There
37:12
was this painting by Helen Frankenthaler.
37:15
We had hung onto it for a couple of years,
37:17
recalls a staffer. A museum
37:19
director came into Anne's office and
37:22
had the painting out, and the museum
37:24
director said, where did that come from?
37:27
The staffer went on to say there had been a
37:29
woman killed in a hit and run.
37:31
This was in the news. She had been
37:33
an art collector and said, I can't
37:36
really tell you, but there was a recent tragedy
37:38
you might have read about in the news, very sad
37:40
story. The staffers said, in fact,
37:43
we had bought the painting at auction
37:45
in or whatever. An
37:48
art net search would have shown it hadn't
37:50
come from this woman's collection. But
37:52
Anne just lie to this director why
37:55
we probably got it on the cheap and Anne
37:58
was marking it up. On
38:00
another occasion, Anne took in a double
38:03
paneled Milton Avery painting, which
38:05
was to say that there was a painting on each
38:07
side of the wood. Instead
38:10
of showing it that way to the Averies, Anne
38:13
reportedly had a conservator split
38:15
the painting down the middle and get two
38:17
salable works instead of one, a
38:20
considerably greater profit to her and the
38:22
gallery. I asked Francis
38:24
if this was typical in any way for a gallery
38:26
director. Never in
38:28
a million years. I mean, I
38:34
you know, you hear these stories about
38:37
people doing them in the kind of
38:39
olden days, but no
38:42
one would imagine
38:44
doing that in my era.
38:47
It's a kind of vandalization of
38:50
an object that you certainly
38:54
can't do without enormous
38:57
thought, and I would think, consultation
39:00
with lots of other people.
39:12
We'll be right back. Sometimes
39:15
Anne seemed drawn by the sheer challenge
39:18
of a newly arrived work. Someone
39:23
might come off the street with a calder
39:26
and a story, recalls one staffer,
39:29
it was my father's and he passed away.
39:31
I'm trying to sell it. Inevitably,
39:34
the owner didn't want to wait long enough
39:36
to put the calder up for auction.
39:38
The provenance sounded sketchy, but
39:41
Anne went upstairs where the finances
39:43
were done, and ended up buying it
39:45
for cash. The staffer
39:47
said, I was thinking, either there's something
39:50
wrong, or you're taking this painting
39:52
and we'll sell it for two or three times the amount.
39:55
I was. Seeing this for the first time. It
39:58
was an indication to me. Over
40:01
the next year or two, other deep
40:03
in corn works on paper came in
40:05
from Glyphra Rosales. Like
40:08
the first ones, they were ocean park abstracts,
40:11
but they were different in one sense. According
40:14
to Rosales, they came from the
40:16
the Honda Gallery in Madrid,
40:19
indicated by the seemingly well worn
40:21
label on the back of each one. The
40:24
Deep in Corn families doubts about those
40:26
first two drawings seemed to
40:28
have worried and Friedman to she
40:31
had written a letter to Rosalie asking
40:34
for at least some provenance on the
40:36
newly surfaced the Honda Gallery
40:38
ocean parks. Leslie
40:41
Feeley recalls and searches
40:43
for provenance. She
40:45
would be in touch with people who used to work
40:47
at the National Gallery, like a Carmen.
40:50
I mean, she tried to find names
40:52
that would fool people, and
40:54
she lied and lied and made up these
40:57
fake provenances.
41:01
I believe from the beginning she knew these
41:03
were fixed, they had no provenances.
41:05
She made up provenances every day.
41:10
The Honda Gallery works troubled
41:13
the deep and Corn family as well. We
41:15
began looking up the Handy Gallery
41:18
and it all seemed very strange because
41:20
all the work that they had handled. You
41:23
can't talk to anybody, they're all dead.
41:26
But the works that they did handle when they
41:28
were in existence, were very,
41:30
very different from the work that
41:33
my father did, things like Picasso
41:35
and some of the earlier
41:38
abstract people. I just remember
41:40
thinking, Wow, that just seems
41:42
odd. Apparently
41:47
Rosalis had made some calls and
41:49
came up with provenance for the Honda Gallery.
41:52
Deepen corns. The key figure
41:54
was a Spanish restaurant owner named
41:56
Cesario Fontanella.
42:00
Supposedly, he told Rosalez that
42:02
he had owned a restaurant called Taverna says
42:04
Are on Fleming Street, near
42:07
Madrid's Castellana Plaza from the
42:09
late nineteen seventies until nineteen
42:11
eighty five. The Taverna
42:13
Cesar had been a hangout for artists. Everyone
42:16
from Francis Bacon to Andy Warhol
42:18
had frequented the place, or so Rosalez
42:21
heard. Nearby was
42:23
the Jande Gallery, said Clario
42:25
Fontenella, where many of those artists
42:28
had shown. Fernando Vijande
42:30
would often bring them over to the Taverna Cesar.
42:34
Deep and Corn had been one of the regulars, and
42:36
in a time honored artistic tradition,
42:39
had often paid off his bar bills with art
42:41
or traded his own art. The nimble
42:43
says our Fontenelle had procured his deepon
42:46
Corns that way, and kept them
42:48
for all those intervening years, he said,
42:51
and was selling them only now after deepin
42:53
Corne's death. It was a
42:55
fine story, except that Rodrigo
42:57
Vijande, the late gallery owner's
43:00
son, found it preposterous.
43:02
First, he had never heard of the
43:04
Tavernas Caesar. He would have known
43:07
it well if his father patronized it.
43:09
He would have known which artists hung out
43:12
there, too, because Rodrico had
43:14
helped run the gallery with his father
43:16
and knew its artists
43:18
upon his father's death. In the
43:23
most off key detail of Caesar
43:25
Fontendles's story was the Tavernas
43:28
address. Even if it
43:30
had existed, it wouldn't have been a
43:32
hangout for artists from the the Honda Gallery
43:35
because it's supposed address on
43:37
Fleming Street was two or three
43:39
miles from the gallery. Both
43:42
galleries that my father owned in Madrid
43:44
were right where he lived, in front
43:46
of his house on Nunez de Balboa
43:49
in the center of Madrid, Rodrico explained
43:52
moreover, of the Hondai didn't drive,
43:55
that, declared his son Rodrigo,
43:58
was why he lived some fifty yards
44:00
from his galleries at
44:02
first, and Freeman may have believed
44:05
the the Honda Gallery story. Certainly
44:07
she wanted to believe it. If
44:10
it was true, it might validate
44:12
the half dozen other such ocean
44:14
parks that Rosalis
44:17
was bringing in one by one. With
44:19
their now distinctive the Honda Gallery
44:21
labels had cast a glow
44:23
of authenticity over all the
44:25
ocean park, Deepen Corns and
44:28
over Glafira Rosalee herself.
44:32
But a label isn't provenance. It's
44:34
just a label. If the
44:36
label had been part of a paper
44:38
trail of ownership, the result would have
44:40
been picture perfect provenance.
44:43
In this case, the trail petered out
44:45
as soon as it began. What
44:48
was it fair to say that every time
44:50
you saw a deep in Corn
44:52
ocean park that had a label
44:55
on back, that it was almost
44:57
certainly fake. I
45:01
think one could say that, Yes, she
45:06
swears that she didn't know, which
45:08
seems hard to believe.
45:11
That's k Noodler artist Michael David
45:13
Again, should she have known? Yeah?
45:16
And is this business fraud
45:19
with people cutting corners with
45:22
fraud? Absolutely? And
45:28
Friedman had her Deepened Corns with the
45:30
Honda Gallery labels, but she
45:32
pressed Rosalees for more proof of
45:35
the works provenance If
45:37
she wasn't going to uncover an actual paper
45:40
trail, she could do the next best
45:42
thing. She could find experts
45:44
on the painters whose works were coming
45:46
in from Mr x Jr. Already
45:49
she had done that with Chris Rothko, the
45:52
late artist's son. Since
45:54
then another Rothko expert,
45:56
David and Pam, had praised it
45:58
too, and would do her part
46:01
seeking out more art world academics
46:03
who might inspect the paintings as they came
46:05
in and find that they were true.
46:09
But couldn't Lafa do something to
46:11
fill in the story of the ex family and
46:14
arranged for Anne to meet Mr x
46:16
Jr. At last, not yet,
46:19
Rosavas deflected soon, she
46:21
felt soon. But
46:24
then came the most astonishing accident,
46:27
one that seemed to prove beyond doubt
46:29
that Mr X and his paintings were
46:31
real after all. In
46:36
their conversations, Lafra and
46:39
Anne often talked about art of the
46:41
post war period. Lafia
46:43
knew a lot enough to impress Anne,
46:46
and the two women share their favorite artists,
46:49
one of whom was Clifford. Still in
46:52
most cases, Glafira would go through
46:55
Mr X's collection searching
46:57
for a painting by one of the artists and
47:00
had spoken of with great admiration. Miraculously
47:03
Glafira would find one. Glafira
47:07
Rosales told investigators
47:10
that the galleries would often
47:12
ask her for specific things
47:15
without asking many questions where
47:17
it came from. So think about this. You
47:19
are a gallery and you are buying painting
47:21
after painting from this woman
47:24
from Mexico who sess was representing
47:27
a famous collector. So then,
47:29
as a gallery owner, I turned to
47:31
her and say, so do you think he might
47:34
happen to have some mother will?
47:37
And then a few weeks later she comes
47:39
with a mother will. I mean, what is really
47:41
the likelihood that this would happen, And
47:44
would then ask her to send an image
47:47
of the work if they'd
47:49
met with her approval, and would
47:51
ask to bring the painting
47:53
in. A standard routine
47:56
was followed. The painting was put
47:58
in the trunk of Mr X Junior's car
48:00
and transported to a photographer's
48:02
studio. Pictures
48:05
were duly taken and the painting was
48:07
then put back in the trunk of the car. The
48:09
plan, as usual, was to send the
48:11
transparencies once they came back from the
48:13
studio to Ann at the Knoedler
48:17
and would then decide if the painting met
48:19
with her approval. Only then would the
48:21
painting be sent to the gallery. Rosalis
48:25
soon called Freedman with terrible
48:27
news while the driver was
48:29
bringing Mr X's Clifford Still
48:31
painting from the photographer's studio.
48:34
She said there had been an accident.
48:36
The car had a rear engine and the
48:39
engine had caught fire. The painting
48:41
was nearly destroyed, all but
48:43
a fragment. When
48:46
she got over her shock and told
48:48
Rosalee to bring her the fragment, the
48:51
painting was indeed badly burned.
48:53
It would have been two and a half feet by three
48:55
feet, Freedman said later. Indeed,
48:58
nearly all of the paintings Rosalis
49:01
would bring were of medium scale.
49:03
To Anne, it made absolute sense
49:06
that the painting had been stored in the trunk,
49:09
and was fascinated with the fragment,
49:12
and more so with the transparency
49:14
that accompanied it. The transparency,
49:17
after all, showed the whole painting before
49:20
it was consumed by fire. On the
49:22
drive back to Mr X Junior's house,
49:25
you could see the whole thing, and with
49:27
a fragment you can analyze the front
49:29
and back differently. You can do
49:31
a touch and feel about it. And later
49:34
said later in
49:36
telling that story and would beam with triumph.
49:39
Quote would a con artist burn the painting
49:41
and then save a fragment so it could be forensically
49:44
examined if the painting wasn't
49:46
real, wouldn't that make it obvious?
49:49
Unquote? Everything
49:51
checked out and declared, including
49:54
that in one of the pigments that Clifford still
49:57
used in many paintings, there's an oxidation
49:59
that had proof positive the
50:02
pigment proved the painting was real, or
50:04
so felt Anne as
50:06
for the burned fragment and kept
50:09
it as proof that the first Clifford
50:11
still Mr. X Junior had sold her
50:14
had been real as well. One
50:16
staff are recalled that the fragment
50:19
was kept in a flat white portfolio.
50:22
You could see the burn marks on the edges.
50:25
It was an friedman's own shroud
50:27
of Turin conveniently,
50:33
Mr x Jr. Managed to find
50:35
another Clifford still in storage
50:37
and sent it along and
50:40
in turn took it to the annual
50:42
Art Dealers Association of America
50:45
show at the New York Armory. Bill
50:47
Ruben came by in a wheelchair and
50:50
said of the famous director of
50:52
the Museum of Modern Art and brother
50:54
of the Nler's former director, Larry
50:56
Reuben whom Anne had dispatched
50:59
from the Notler. According
51:01
to Freedman, Bill Reuben looked hard at
51:03
the Clifford still and said, yes,
51:06
that's a cliff painting. I
51:08
turned it around for him and he confirmed
51:11
that it was a Clifford Still
51:13
painting. Bill
51:15
Ruben had been duped by the Rosava's
51:18
ring too. In reality,
51:20
none of the details in as
51:22
story of the burned Clifford Still painting
51:25
were true. Now
51:27
we know no fire really happened, right did
51:29
it did? Happened? Actually, Carlos
51:32
was preparing the pieces and he was treating
51:34
them with her dryers
51:37
and following them in coal and hot
51:40
temperatures, so that
51:42
one got burned because he forgot
51:45
to turn the hair dryer of, and
51:47
of course it went in flames. And now
51:50
Anne is waiting for the piece. And
51:53
what is this planation I'm going to give Carlos
51:57
Tom It will tell them this. I
51:59
want people to know that
52:01
I have never talked to nobody. I have
52:03
never been interviewed about my life
52:06
or about this case except
52:08
for the government of course. More
52:11
from Glafira Rosale's herself
52:14
next time on art fraud.
52:16
You have the cool, clear
52:20
eyes of a seeker of wisdom
52:22
and truth. Yet
52:27
there's that bob turned
52:30
chin and the grin of impetuous
52:33
youth. Believe
52:40
you hard,
52:44
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executive producers are Matt del Piano,
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Keegan Rosenberger, Andy Turner,
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myself, and Michael Ayerson.
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We're produced by Brandon Morgan and Zach
53:03
McNeice. Zach also edited
53:05
and mixed this episode. Lindsay
53:07
Hoffman is our managing producer.
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believe you and
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my faith and my fallow
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