with Zackary Drucker, Ahree Lee, Sandra de la Loza, Jaklin Romine. Moderated by Mario Ontiveros.

In this episode, the artists continue their conversation about visibility and access. Woven through their talk are issues of vulnerability, generosity, and accountability, as well as intolerance, privilege, and art-washing. 

They talk about their paths— to Los Angeles and to their current projects—and how their frameworks have shifted and adapted. One of the roles of the artist, Ahree Lee says, is to counteract the deficiencies in the world around them. 

Zackary Drucker says, “We're really called upon in this moment to create a new structure in which everybody is provided for, and everybody's needs are provided for.”

The artists debate various tactics to ensure access, activate imagination, and create alternative models for living today. Both Zackary and Ahree ask us to consider, as Ahree says, “how we are all connected, that there is no such thing as an individual good. There is only collectivism.”

This conversation was recorded in February 2020, before the global pandemic and mass uprising in the name of racial justice and against police brutality.Find more information about the series and the artists here>.