My next guest is Chris Widener. He is a Member of the Motivational Speakers Hall of Fame, one of Inc. Magazine’s Top 100 Leadership Speakers, was named one of the Top 50 Speakers in the World, and is a New York Times and Wall Street Journal Bestselling author (he has written 20 books). And he is a businessman, coach, and mentor. Chris is even a Washington State native and his brother was a firefighter in Eastern Washington for 39 years. I probably spilled beer on him somewhere along the line. In this episode, we talk about The Real Man Podcast which he hosts with another fascinating fellow - Larry Winget, current COVID events, values, optimism, leadership, and much more. I am grateful to have him on the show. Find out more about Chris, his personal coaching services, and The Real Man Podcast at: ChrisWidener.com RealManPodcast.com and on Twitter - @ChrisWidener