0:00

Ed Dowd is on this podcast to talk

0:02

about his latest book, cause

0:04

unknown, which talks about the rise

0:06

in excess deaths following the

0:08

vaccinations that have swept across

0:10

the world. He's formerly a

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fund manager at BlackRock. during

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his time at BlackRock, he grew a fund

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from three billion to fourteen billion

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underneath his management, which means that

0:22

he actually was able to spot trends in the

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market and analyze data smarter

0:26

and more effectively than his peers and

0:28

then the general public. And if you don't know

0:30

who BlackRock is, They have over

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ten trillion in assets, which

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makes them one of the largest financial institutions

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in the world only behind the US and

0:40

Chinese economies. So

0:42

Ed is one of the smartest financial minds

0:44

and one of the smartest minds in

0:46

analyzing data in the world. And

0:48

the data he is analyzing post

0:51

vaccination is incredibly disturbing.

0:54

And that makes this podcast

0:56

heavy. But throughout the heaviness of this

0:58

podcast is also a message of hope, a message

1:00

of the power of the human body,

1:02

the human mind, and the importance that

1:05

we actually are aware of

1:07

the data and understand what the

1:09

numbers are showing, and we're gonna do our best

1:11

to just show the numbers. And if you're watching this

1:13

on video, We're gonna show the numbers

1:15

as best we can, flashing them on the screen,

1:18

and then having the actual reports in

1:20

the show notes, and just show what

1:22

numbers indicate also offer a

1:24

message of hope and not try to point fingers

1:26

make allegations. That's not the point of this podcast.

1:29

It's just to actually show the reality as

1:32

we see it as Ed sees it and

1:35

offer also alternate hypotheses

1:38

to explain the data because the data is

1:40

the data and data comes from verifiable

1:43

sources. So this

1:45

is a heavy podcast and it goes also

1:47

into what the financial implications

1:49

might be, which of course Ed is one

1:52

of the premier experts on this

1:54

subject as well. So this is a

1:56

very important podcast and I

1:58

encourage you guys to listen with an open

2:00

mind and also do your own fact

2:02

checking and we'll do our best

2:04

to offer that. His book cause unknown

2:07

has QR codes on every article

2:09

and behind every fact and statistic

2:12

that he lists and so we'll do

2:14

our best to do the same and honor

2:17

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Dowd. Ed, glad to have you on

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the

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podcast, man. Aubrey, thanks for having me on

10:52

today. Good to be here. Yeah.

10:54

For sure. You know, I to say

10:56

that when I read this book,

10:59

cause unknown, I started

11:01

reading through it, with some curiosity.

11:03

You know, I listened to an interview you

11:05

did with McCullough and,

11:07

you know, it sounded really compelling. And

11:09

one of the things I appreciated was,

11:11

you know, my father was a commodity trader, grew up

11:14

in the Paul Jones, Bruce

11:16

Cauvener era, commodities Corp. And

11:18

So I understood the terminology

11:20

that you use thinking, you know, in finance,

11:22

which is your background being a fund manager

11:25

at BlackRock you know, the largest

11:27

institutional financial institution in the

11:29

world that's private, at least. Second, only

11:31

the US and China, I believe, in

11:33

assets managed, basically. And

11:35

but the way that you thought about it was the same

11:37

way that my dad would analyze whether,

11:40

you know, soybeans were gonna, you know,

11:42

have a have a strong

11:44

season or whether gold prices were gonna

11:46

sell off or or, you

11:48

know, be strong or bullish

11:50

in in the future and it was a very,

11:52

like, analytical and dispassionate

11:56

way that you approached all of the

11:58

data. And so I deeply

12:00

appreciated that. And and that was

12:02

kind of the mindset that I went into the book. And

12:04

I and I would wanna, of course, let you talk

12:06

about that mindset, but

12:08

also just to share that I started reading this

12:10

book on a nice sunny day out at

12:12

my farm in Lockhart. And

12:14

I started I just broke

12:16

down and just started balling.

12:18

And I get emotional thinking about it because it

12:20

felt like I was looking at, like,

12:23

a slow and disconnected version

12:25

of nine eleven, like, all

12:28

of the faces that you have in

12:30

here of the people who've died

12:33

and and you have QR codes to every one of

12:35

the articles and you start to

12:37

just see face after

12:39

face after face of people who are full of

12:41

life and who are no longer here,

12:43

and then start to look at the statistics of,

12:45

you know, a very plausible explanation

12:47

of why that might be. And it's

12:49

just absolutely fucking

12:52

it's devastating, man. It's

12:54

like it's really devastating and,

12:56

you know, we won't be able to hold the

12:58

emotional gravity of this, but I just

13:00

wanna, like, establish, like,

13:02

yeah, we're gonna be talking a lot of numbers in

13:04

science, but the one of the most powerful

13:06

things about this is

13:09

these are real people. These are

13:11

not just numbers. Excess deaths

13:13

are not some statistic

13:16

alone. Every single point

13:18

on that statistic is someone with a

13:20

life and a history and a mother and a

13:22

father and children and

13:24

friends and, like, and a

13:26

song that they could sing that's only theirs to

13:28

sing for the world. Like, it's

13:30

fucking heavy men. It's

13:32

really, really heavy. I

13:33

absolutely agree with you. And, you know, you

13:36

know, as a numbers guy, that's

13:39

what we did in the

13:41

book. We wanted to establish these are

13:43

big numbers, but they

13:45

have real human consequences and

13:48

real sad tragedies. And the biggest thing

13:50

that really upsets me is my

13:52

data suggests that there was a mix shift

13:55

from old to y'all in

13:57

twenty one and twenty two. And

13:59

the the tragic deaths and we start

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forget about why. Just

14:16

suspend that. But, you know,

14:18

By showing all these individual

14:21

stories from local newspapers,

14:23

they don't really ever make it to the national level.

14:25

We want to put a human face on it

14:27

and really connect people with what's going on that

14:29

this is just isn't some statistical

14:33

anomaly caused by climate change,

14:35

caused by XYZ. These are real

14:37

young people dying the prime of their life

14:39

on the field. And one of

14:41

the most compelling studies that was

14:43

done was a lot of same study and

14:45

it it it it it

14:48

expand thirty eight years and

14:50

it cataloged eleven hundred

14:53

sudden athletic deaths. Over thirty

14:55

eight years. That's about twenty nine

14:57

per year globally. And,

15:01

you know, want establish for people who may not

15:03

believe what, you know, I believe or

15:05

you believe, but there's something

15:07

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15:10

and it's true. We can't have a month

15:12

we don't have a month now. We'd be lucky to have a

15:14

month with twenty nine sudden athletic death

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since twenty twenty one. There are there are

15:18

months with ninety, one hundred, one hundred and fifty.

15:21

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15:23

and fifty of of bunch of the

15:25

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15:27

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15:29

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15:31

want people to understand that this is true

15:33

it's happening. Now you may not agree

15:35

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15:37

is, but the health

15:39

authorities of the globe in this country

15:41

in particular don't seem to care.

15:43

And they don't want to talk about it. And

15:45

we've created a new term called sudden

15:47

adult death syndrome that just kind of mysteriously

15:50

came into being in twenty twenty

15:52

one. And all that is, it's a

15:54

term. It doesn't explain anything. It's just a

15:56

new term. It's it's a

15:58

term used to just kind of wash whitewash

16:01

this and make it normal. And

16:03

I call there's a section a book called

16:05

the sad new normal, because this is what it

16:07

is. And, you know,

16:09

the data that you read

16:11

and the emotional way

16:14

you thought about this is why we wrote the book.

16:16

We want to, you know, really pound this helmet.

16:18

These aren't just numbers. These are real people

16:20

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16:23

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16:26

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16:30

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16:32

numbers bear that out. So it's it's this

16:34

is nine eleven on

16:36

steroids. It's

16:41

interesting to think about how, you know, the

16:43

narrative shapes the way

16:45

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16:47

back in the day where

16:49

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16:51

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16:53

vaccine hesitancy. And again, that's a that's a

16:55

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16:57

almost weaponized in a certain way to mean

16:59

that you had some kind of mental

17:01

disability the way it was. But if you propose

17:03

any idea that meant that you're

17:06

hesitant you know, hesitant about the

17:08

information about these vaccines and kinda

17:10

resistant to the lockdown policies or

17:12

whatever, people would start throwing

17:14

in your face all

17:16

of the deaths that

17:18

occurred from COVID. You know, and whatever

17:20

whatever you might wanna say about the numbers,

17:22

whether they're inflated or not, there were deaths

17:24

that happened from COVID, no doubt about it.

17:26

Right? The COVID did kill some people.

17:29

Absolutely. And so they used

17:31

those deaths to just hammer

17:33

you relentlessly about

17:36

anything that opposed the

17:38

ideology of the vaccine.

17:40

But now in

17:42

the inverse where you have

17:44

clear statistics where people

17:46

are dying suddenly without

17:49

cause after having been vaccinated

17:52

those same arguments which

17:54

are, like, appeals to death.

17:56

Basically, you'd they're not being used

17:58

in the same way, and it's just this it's

18:01

like a flip of the way that the psychology works.

18:03

Now those deaths are excusable. Just

18:05

put another term and another name on it and

18:07

it's excusable. It's excusable if it's

18:09

sudden adult death syndrome.

18:11

No worries. Nothing to see here. But

18:13

if it was a COVID death, you

18:15

know, like that was something that was

18:18

right, right in the forefront. And there's so many

18:21

psychodynamics at play at the very

18:23

least that make this a very difficult,

18:25

you know, very difficult worried

18:27

to talk about in the in

18:29

the public zeitgeist? Absolutely.

18:33

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18:35

twenty, a lot of the

18:37

news channels especially CNN and

18:39

MSNBC had tickers of

18:41

the number 395 from COVID in the cases.

18:44

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18:46

and twenty twenty two, excess

18:48

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18:50

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18:52

up not a little bit, but

18:54

a lot. And in twenty twenty one, we had forty

18:56

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18:58

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19:00

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a kind of a freebie benefit. You signed

19:50

your group life policy. You sign it

19:52

and you name the beneficiary. If you're

19:54

single, you name your mom and dad. If

19:56

you're married, you name your wife or

19:58

a husband. And,

20:00

you know, throughout my whole career, I I

20:02

you know, usually it was one to two times

20:04

your salary, your base salary. And

20:07

it was just something you never thought about because when you're in

20:09

your thirties, forties, and even fifties, you

20:11

just don't think about dying.

20:14

So this is a

20:16

very specific group of people. It's

20:18

a subset of the US population and

20:22

they to get the the the depth claim, the benefit

20:24

you have to be employed at the time.

20:27

So, this is a group of people as

20:29

the Society of Actuaries has

20:31

proven in prior studies is much healthier than the general

20:34

population. And they

20:36

experience mortality in any given

20:38

year, thirty percent to forty percent out of the general

20:40

population, makes sense. They're

20:42

the most educated access to

20:44

their healthcare and are, you know, showing up

20:46

to work. They're able to get there. So they're

20:48

not, you know, getting

20:51

sick and then getting fired

20:53

there there. And in

20:55

twenty twenty one, they experienced forty

20:57

percent excess mortality as

21:00

this is the size of actuary

21:02

numbers, not my numbers, and

21:04

this came out in

21:06

August. The general US population thirty

21:08

two percent excess mortality in twenty

21:10

twenty one. So

21:13

that relationship suddenly flipped on its

21:15

head in twenty twenty one.

21:17

This amazingly healthy

21:20

group of individuals decided

21:23

to collectively die at a much

21:25

higher excess death rate than the general

21:27

US population, which is less

21:29

healthy. And, you

21:31

know, to make matters worse,

21:37

the mainstream media

21:39

explained this with a couple of different things.

21:41

It was and I

21:43

was fact checked by Reuters and AP early

21:45

on when I discovered this data in March.

21:47

We had the CDC data, which

21:49

then later was verified by the

21:52

Society of Actuaries. 395 fact checked me

21:54

and said, our

21:56

experts say that it's not caused

21:58

by the

21:58

vaccines. It's caused by death of

22:01

despair. Suicide rates

22:03

are up

22:04

due to the lockdowns. Drug

22:07

overdoses are because of

22:09

this despair from the lockdowns and

22:11

then missed cancer screening treatments.

22:14

And each one of those arguments, while

22:17

may be true in the small

22:19

part can't explain

22:21

why this healthy group of

22:22

individuals, especially in the third

22:24

quarter of twenty twenty one. The

22:27

millennial age group twenty five through forty four

22:29

saw a spike of eighty four percent excess

22:31

mortality into the third quarter.

22:33

Very poral rate of change spike.

22:35

Your 395 commodity trader, you probably

22:37

traded yourself. It's

22:38

it's, you know, it's a rate of change. It's a

22:40

spike like that. I

22:41

call that a temporal event. What

22:44

happened in August, September, and October

22:46

of twenty twenty one. Well, we know

22:48

anyone who was vaccine hesitant, had

22:50

a gun to their head to

22:52

keep their job. They had to get

22:55

a vaccine. So a lot of

22:57

mandates started rolling out in the

22:59

summer. The the

23:01

revered investor some banks Goldman Sachs Morgan Stanley led

23:03

the way. In August, Corporate

23:05

America followed 395 president Biden

23:07

signing executive order. On

23:09

September ninth. So there was a lot of pull

23:11

forward of people that had to get the

23:13

vaccine. So the arguments that

23:15

it was drug overdose is

23:17

suicides and mis cancer screening treatments

23:19

doesn't hold water in my opinion

23:21

because you can't say that temporarily in

23:23

the third quarter of twenty twenty

23:25

one that there was a suicide

23:27

pact amongst the group like policyholders,

23:29

or they all decided to overdose on

23:31

fentanyl and heroin, which

23:33

you know, in my experience,

23:36

anyone using fentanyl or heroin doesn't

23:38

kinda keep their job very long. You don't

23:40

you don't develop that habit and

23:42

over dose immediately. And then the

23:44

maintenance cancer screening treatments, I'm

23:46

fifty five. I 395 had one. I don't even

23:48

understand what this test is. I just

23:50

Most most cancers are caught when someone

23:53

presents ill and they go into the doctor, then the

23:55

tests are run. You don't go for your normal

23:57

cancer screening. Checkups.

23:59

I've never done one in my life. I don't think that's a

24:01

thing. Mhmm. So these

24:03

excuses I call

24:05

it ABB, anything but the vaccine.

24:07

So this is what is tragic about

24:10

this is this is something that should be have been

24:12

intuitive to most people, but the

24:14

mainstream media 395 some reason doesn't

24:16

want to look at

24:18

the one thing that changed in twenty twenty one and

24:20

twenty twenty two. It's beyond competition.

24:24

It's it's also, I mean, one of the things that really

24:26

got me upset, and I wasn't looking

24:28

at the same sets of data that you

24:30

were looking at. And actually,

24:32

this is, you know, you heard you hear

24:34

hints about excess mortality, but then

24:37

you try to look at it, and and there's

24:39

all kinds of ways in which the data is

24:41

presented, and it doesn't really make sense So

24:43

I never really went down this path

24:44

until, you know, 395 my own

24:47

just thinking of my own mindset until I

24:49

read this book. But I also

24:51

what the path that I did go down was

24:53

that I recognized that the officials

24:55

who were promoting these lockdowns

24:58

were absolutely not looking at the ancillary

25:00

costs of lockdowns,

25:02

Dowd psychological costs and all of

25:04

these things. And I was just appalled that

25:07

those weren't factored into the decision. You know, because

25:09

if you're making a decision with any kind

25:12

of executive mindset, you have to

25:14

factor in all of the consequences. That

25:17

might be there. And very few people were talking

25:19

about that including, you know,

25:21

the financial consequences of

25:23

just printing trillions of dollars. And then what

25:25

those trillions of dollars could have been used for. 395 know,

25:27

I mean, I was the CEO of a

25:29

company founded it, grew it, built it, sold

25:31

it. Like, if you're gonna allocate, you

25:34

know, huge part of your budget to something. You

25:36

have to look at, alright, well, what if we allocated

25:38

it to this other thing? Like

25:41

clean water for the whole 395, for

25:43

example, or better education

25:45

policies. So there's I was really

25:47

upset that all of these

25:49

other factors weren't being considered, and

25:51

then it's so interesting to

25:53

me that Now when this

25:55

number is now the most kind

25:57

of glaring threat to the narrative, the

25:59

excess deaths, now people are

26:01

pointing backwards to the cost

26:03

of the lock down when that was something they

26:05

never wanted to look at in the first place

26:07

when that was a part of the whole

26:08

policy. It's like there's so much inconsistency here.

26:11

Yeah. The logic doesn't work. And,

26:14

you know, you're a CEO of the

26:16

company. You 395 a business. I'm

26:18

an analyst. And, you know,

26:20

the logic thread is completely

26:23

bogus in my

26:25

humble opinion. And what what

26:27

what disturbs me the most is that

26:29

the country at large doesn't seem to have a

26:32

memory. And, you know, you

26:34

have a memory, you remember what they

26:36

said in twenty twenty. In

26:38

twenty twenty one, and now that's flipped on

26:40

its head. And they don't

26:42

want to look at what's going on right

26:44

in front of them. And in my book, I conclude

26:46

with you know, I don't go into

26:48

the who or why. That's not how flexible it's

26:50

established. It is. It's happening. But what I

26:52

do say is, at this point, the

26:54

data that I see clearly

26:57

global governments in health have already seen the same

26:59

data, and they're not talking about it. And

27:01

the question is why? So there's a

27:03

cover up something going on. I believe

27:05

it's the vaccines. If anybody has

27:07

another thesis

27:09

that could make sense to me, I'd love

27:11

to hear it. I haven't heard one yet.

27:13

But it's become apparent to me that there's definitely a

27:15

cover up going on on the global scale because

27:17

this is one of the biggest

27:22

biobiological missteps

27:25

we've ever made in humanity.

27:27

And we've just you know, dosed five

27:30

billion people on this planet with

27:32

this thing that is experimental, never

27:34

was actually tested on humans, had a

27:36

twenty eight day trial, which you

27:38

know, I can get into it later on,

27:41

but it looks fraudulent to me.

27:43

It looks like the data was

27:44

manufactured. So there was data fraud

27:46

Pfizer, my humble opinion. Howard Bauchner:

27:49

Well, they released a bunch of that

27:51

that Pfizer data that actually

27:53

came out that did call into

27:55

question you know, some aspects of the vaccine

27:57

trials at the very least and also

28:00

particularly the adverse events

28:03

know, aspect of those

28:05

trials seem to not be presented in

28:07

in a 395 way, especially in

28:09

a chord with the narrative. So there's a

28:11

couple threads here One thread is I

28:14

absolutely agree with you. I made a a

28:16

very soft post that

28:18

said, in my mind, it was just

28:20

something about you know, as the narrative changes, can

28:22

we can we find, you know,

28:24

really forgiveness in our hearts for those that

28:26

have that have believed the other thing? Can we

28:28

like welcome can we

28:30

welcome the truth back in with open arms

28:32

and and end this divisiveness? But the

28:34

fact that I said, as the narrative

28:36

changes, some people are like, what do you even

28:38

mean? The narrative hasn't changed. You know,

28:40

like, everything everything that's happening

28:42

now is exactly and I'm like, what

28:44

are you talking about? Of course, the narrative

28:46

changed. You know, I mean, and this is something that

28:48

you you show in the book, all of the different

28:51

quotes from the different health

28:53

officials, and then you have QR codes to all

28:55

of these different quotes. Basically

28:58

saying safe and effective will prevent you from

29:00

getting the virus and then how all of this

29:02

narrative just absolutely

29:04

did change. I mean, this is not

29:06

this is not a question. You know, this was a pandemic of

29:08

the unvaccinated and all of these different ideas

29:10

that 395 out there, the narrative

29:13

has shifted. I mean, that's not

29:15

it's not for debate. You

29:17

you and and I invite anybody to

29:19

go through and look at all of the quotes

29:21

of the CDC White House

29:23

health officials and just see

29:25

how they've actually shifted the

29:27

narrative along the way. So there's no

29:29

doubt that that's happened and still some

29:31

people are in denial that

29:33

actually the narrative has

29:34

changed. There are still many who believe

29:36

that it's safe and effective and prevents

29:38

you from getting COVID and transmitting it to

29:40

leave it or not. But what do

29:42

we know? We know now that it

29:45

doesn't -- not only doesn't prevent

29:47

COVID, it doesn't prevent 395, So

29:49

at the very least, it's a

29:52

defective, not a defective product.

29:54

It's a product that

29:56

doesn't work. Then So you

29:58

have to ask yourself, why would you keep taking something that doesn't

30:01

work? And then if you get into the safety

30:03

regime, it's the the the the

30:05

original thesis they presented to

30:07

us has fallen apart. It does

30:09

no under exist. So mandates

30:11

across the globe should end based on

30:13

that. Corporate mandates federal

30:16

mandates. Anybody who has a mandate should

30:18

drop 395 just based on that. But let's once you

30:20

get into the safety data, it's even more

30:22

horrific and and

30:24

that's what I think is

30:26

going on here is if you're in a cover up

30:28

mode, you you act as

30:30

if. So this is what's

30:32

happening from our regulators and our government

30:34

authorities. It's In Denmark,

30:36

we saw horrendous excess mortality

30:39

every year since twenty twenty,

30:41

twenty twenty one was

30:43

higher than twenty twenty for the total population across

30:45

all age cohorts. Same thing

30:47

happened in twenty twenty two excess

30:49

mortality above twenty twenty

30:51

one for all age cohorts Danish

30:54

government. And while I was writing the

30:56

book, and I put it in the book, banned

30:59

vaccines for under individuals

31:01

under fifty stating that it's

31:03

395 you get COVID than the vaccine, which

31:05

is a double speak way of saying

31:07

the risk reward is worse than

31:10

the vaccine. Seen, you're more likely than die from it

31:12

than COVID. And

31:14

let's talk about the Pfizer clinical

31:17

trials. A little known

31:19

data point that was hidden from us

31:21

until the fall of twenty

31:24

twenty one through a employer request was

31:26

the all cause mortality endpoint.

31:28

And when you do drug trials,

31:30

there's endpoints you 395 for. And

31:32

one of which is known as the

31:34

all cause mortality. Which is the risk benefit of

31:36

the product. And generally speaking,

31:39

when there's more deaths associated with

31:41

the vaccine group

31:43

or the product group versus the placebo

31:44

group, it doesn't usually get approved by the

31:47

FDA. Pfizer failed that

31:49

endpoint. There

31:50

were twenty one death in the

31:53

vaccine cohort and

31:55

seventeen in the placebo cohort. That's

31:57

a twenty three percent excess death.

31:59

Or, you know, twenty three percent more people died

32:01

in a twenty eight day period in

32:03

that group. That should've shut it down right

32:05

Dowd in there. And it didn't.

32:08

And when this was when this became

32:10

apparent to us in the fall 395 twenty twenty

32:12

one, I spoke, you know, I still have

32:14

contacts in the investment world and former

32:16

colleagues who are healthcare analysts that are now

32:18

CFOs and CEOs of biotech

32:21

companies. When they heard that, they

32:23

were horrified. It's the golden 395 the

32:25

golden rule. You do

32:27

not push a product that has a

32:29

risk reward that's adverse, at bare

32:31

minimum. So you know, this this

32:33

thing was a

32:35

disaster from the get

32:35

go. And,

32:36

you know, it's become apparent to me and many

32:39

others that there was military

32:41

grade sci fi propaganda

32:43

campaign that was pushed forth, and it's

32:45

come out through four request

32:47

that the government gave over a billion dollars to

32:49

mainstream media to push the vaccine

32:52

narrative and sensor

32:54

anybody with a counter

32:54

narrative, not allow them one show.

32:57

So 395 consent at a bare

33:00

minimum was violated for the whole country in

33:02

the globe in my humble opinion. And

33:04

that's that's an indisputable fact that that billion

33:07

dollars is trackable based on the

33:09

four year report that the government paid

33:12

to run basically an advertising

33:15

campaign. That was that was provaxing. Yeah. That

33:17

came out on the first big The the the

33:19

blaze discovered that

33:21

Emerald Rob at Robinson then

33:23

made a a big stink about

33:24

it. And that's 395, that's not that's not that

33:26

can't be denied. Yep.

33:29

So there's a section here in the

33:31

book that actually, it

33:34

actually shows that COVID

33:36

is getting deadlier for, you know,

33:38

as time is going on. Now, what we understand

33:41

of COVID is that the variants are

33:45

appearingly getting less and less

33:47

deadly. And I've had some, you know,

33:49

doctor Zach Bush was on my show and he

33:51

talks about how this is typically the

33:53

way it goes. They don't get deadly, they

33:55

get less deadly because ultimately

33:57

the virus wants to propagate. And

33:59

if it's killing its hosts, then

34:01

it actually is counterproductive to the

34:03

way that Nate actually wants to

34:05

work. So it actually, the incentive, you

34:07

know, biologically. And this is his opinion, in his

34:10

medical opinion, is it's going

34:12

to get less and less deadly. And Omicron, of course, seemed

34:14

to be the mildest of the of the

34:16

strains and cases that we

34:18

got. So We have this

34:20

general idea that COVID is getting

34:22

less deadly, the more variants that roll out, at

34:24

least of what we've seen so 395, but

34:26

there are some statistics in

34:28

here, if I read them correctly, that

34:30

showed that actually, COVID

34:32

is getting more deadly, particularly

34:34

in children than it ever was.

34:36

Which is a very interesting statistic as

34:38

well. Howard Bauchner: Yeah, so you talked

34:41

to any virologists, epidemiologists, they'll

34:44

never tell you that there's a virus that

34:48

changed and morphed from killing

34:51

mostly old to young in the

34:54

second year of its

34:56

evolution. And what's apparently

34:58

started to happen if you

35:00

believe their narrative is that COVID's becoming more deadly

35:02

for younger people. So the virus seems

35:04

to really only want to go after

35:08

younger folks and twenty one,

35:10

twenty two, and employed folks. So

35:12

395 a very smart virus, apparently,

35:16

that we've never

35:18

seen on the planet before. And, you

35:20

know, in the book, I talk about what

35:22

happened in the UK. In

35:25

the UK, excess mortality went down for age groups

35:27

one through fourteen during the

35:30

lockdowns. And that makes sense because one of

35:32

the greatest causes

35:34

of death in that age group was accidental. So less

35:37

activity would augur

35:40

a decreasing

35:42

excess mortality. And that did occur and

35:44

then that lockdowns were lifted in

35:46

excess deaths for the UK children continue

35:48

to go down, then

35:50

mysteriously when the vaccine was in reduced in

35:52

November of twenty twenty one,

35:54

excess deaths started to go back up.

35:56

So, you know, again,

35:58

I used deductive reasoning,

36:00

something changed, change was

36:02

that vaccines were introduced

36:05

for

36:05

children, age groups one through

36:08

395, and Again,

36:10

anybody who's out there in the scientific field

36:12

who wants to argue with me that the

36:14

virus decided to go after the younger

36:17

folks later on in the

36:18

pandemic. When we all know that the strains

36:21

are becoming less virulent. I'd love

36:23

to hear that argument or see that

36:25

peer review paper. So

36:28

again, you know, what I do as an investor is I have an

36:30

analyst, Mosaic, use deductive reasoning,

36:32

and the data is suggesting the

36:34

vaccines are the cause. And I

36:37

395 different databases, different

36:40

studies, and they all say all

36:42

point in in general direction. Once vaccines

36:45

introduce young folks start 395? If

36:48

you were going to steel man

36:52

the argument you know, some

36:54

kind of argument that

36:57

refutes debunks that thesis. I mean, when

36:59

you've talked about it, there's

37:01

there's the attempts like the sudden adult,

37:03

you know, sudden adult death syndrome in

37:05

these different ways that people try to explain it. But

37:07

is there any other thing that

37:09

that we haven't mentioned that somebody listening to this

37:12

podcast and be like, oh, this is all

37:14

bullshit, you know,

37:16

COVID, you know, the vaccines or the vaccines

37:19

you know, make make COVID less deadly Dowd that's

37:22

proven. And there does seem to be some

37:24

statistics about that. We're actually

37:26

getting vaccinated in certain, you

37:28

know, in certain analysis

37:30

of data, has made it less deadly

37:32

for certain subsets. Not children, obviously,

37:34

I think you've shown that conclusively

37:37

here in the in the book. But is

37:39

that the is that kind of the steel

37:41

man argument? Is that there are some studies that show that

37:43

if you get the vaccine,

37:45

COVID is less likely to kill you or be or

37:48

turning to long COVID or or like, what's

37:50

the steel man

37:52

argument against the thesis generally that you're promoting here.

37:54

So let's follow the narrative change.

37:56

It was going

37:58

to prevent you from getting COVID in transmission.

38:02

That's been changed and worked in Gee. I got COVID,

38:04

you know, public politicians

38:07

and public officials

38:09

395 say, I've got COVID. And

38:11

it's

38:11

bad, but

38:11

it would have been a lot

38:11

worse if I didn't get the

38:14

vaccine. That's one of those

38:16

marketing terms. It seems to

38:17

me. I

38:20

actually called out on many shows, I'd love to see

38:23

a peer reviewed study that

38:25

it actually does prevent hospitalization.

38:28

Haven't seen that yet. And any data

38:31

that's out there would only

38:33

probably benefit the old folks

38:36

because we are seeing that older

38:38

folks are dying at a lesser rate than younger

38:40

395, but that could be also because pull

38:42

forward of the numbers in twenty twenty from people who

38:45

were mostly all who got who

38:47

got wiped out. But And

38:50

we did see a declining excess mortality

38:52

in old folks. But once 395 vaccinations

38:54

were introduced, older folks

38:58

started does start rising again. So the argument that

39:00

it prevents serious hospitalization,

39:03

I think, is

39:06

a strong man argument until I see some real evidence or

39:08

a study on that. It

39:10

just seems like a narrative changed to

39:12

me in a marketing tool. That's

39:14

number

39:15

one. And then the other thing I hear is long

39:17

COVID. Long

39:18

COVID is causing these access to

39:21

Now, the interesting about Long COVID, is it

39:23

a real thing it is, but it's usually

39:26

real for people with all sorts of health

39:28

problems as

39:30

well. And doesn't have a clinical definition

39:32

yet, which I find curious. And

39:34

there was an article written about

39:37

a long COVID causing a

39:40

labor shortage. And that article was

39:42

seriously a period after my testimony to

39:44

senator Johnson saying that I believe

39:46

a lot of the labor shortages

39:48

due to disabilities from the vaccine. And in this in

39:50

that article, it's the CNBC article.

39:52

They really didn't give

39:54

anything other than opinion They

39:57

say that it needs long term

40:00

studies. They're not really sure what's

40:02

causing it. And I've talked to

40:04

a couple of doctors I said, look, why

40:06

do you think they don't have a clinical definition

40:08

for long

40:09

COVID? And

40:10

the answer we come up with is, a

40:12

lot of the long COVID symptoms mimic

40:15

adverse events from the vaccine that are now coming

40:17

out in the Pfizer 395. So

40:20

there's this interesting

40:22

dynamic where you want they wanna blame Long COVID,

40:24

but yet they haven't defined it

40:25

yet. Very interesting, curious in

40:27

my humble opinion. With

40:30

this data that's out there, you know, Denmark

40:32

made the decision. They analyzed the

40:34

data as a country and they

40:37

decided, alright, we are no longer

40:39

mandating or even recommending vaccines for

40:41

anybody underneath the age of fifty.

40:43

And then at the same time,

40:45

our officials 395 our government are still

40:48

promoting vaccination

40:50

for anybody over six months

40:53

old and for mothers who are pregnant and

40:55

nursing, there's absolutely no exclusions

40:58

being recommended by our government

41:00

despite this data coming out. I

41:02

mean, that's

41:04

that's pretty unbelievable

41:06

to actually to actually

41:09

grasp that this data is

41:12

here and nobody's pushing the

41:14

pause button on anything. If anything, it's

41:16

just gas and more

41:18

gas on on

41:20

the narrative.

41:21

Yeah. It's III said

41:23

early on when this started to come

41:25

become apparent to me that it was starting to make

41:27

the media rounds. I I I'm

41:29

on record saying on Steve Vanage WarRoom in February,

41:32

March 395 this is

41:34

such a

41:36

horrible mistake and problem

41:40

for the government and the health officials that they're

41:42

gonna double down. So

41:44

I under stand criminal

41:46

behavior. And whether it was a

41:48

criminal intent or just a realization they

41:50

screwed up, we're in the cover up.

41:52

Mode. And this is what you do in cover up. I've seen this in corporate fraud, after corporate

41:55

fraud. When the fraud starts to unravel

41:57

the CEO, the company doesn't go, oh,

41:59

you caught me guys. What

42:02

he does is he continues to act as if

42:04

and he would call his favorite

42:07

shareholders 395 whisper sweet nothing's

42:09

in their ear and, you know, beg them to hold on to the stock

42:11

as it's cascading lower or buy

42:14

more. And he would lie all the way

42:16

until the

42:18

regulators would, you know, arrest him. So

42:20

this is I've seen this before,

42:22

and it's tragic. And,

42:24

you know, what's even more

42:27

ridiculous is the U. S.

42:29

Used to lead on health issues. We were

42:31

the leaders on health issues. And my

42:33

two partners at my hedge fund Dowd done a lot

42:35

of the analysis assets of this data said to me, Ed, why

42:37

is the US not the

42:40

leader in this issue? And I said, good

42:43

question. From Portugal, and they're

42:46

they're just horrified that the US health

42:48

authorities are not leading like

42:50

Denmark. I mean, we got

42:52

a small country of Denmark. It has to

42:54

lead And

42:55

unfortunately, they're

42:55

small. They don't have the clout nor the media attention

42:57

that they deserve. But, you know,

42:59

they didn't admit what's

43:01

going but at least they they care about their

43:04

citizens enough to stop the

43:06

program and kill their young

43:08

most able-bodied people amongst

43:11

their population and disable Dowd. Howard

43:14

Bauchner: I mean, what this

43:16

sounds like is that, you know,

43:18

and what it certainly seems like with the

43:20

amount of revenue

43:22

that, you know, pharma contributes

43:24

to both campaign contributions to

43:26

advertising to mainstream media. I

43:29

mean, it's astronomical numbers. They're by far

43:31

the leader in all of

43:33

the contributions. And when I asked, you know, Brett

43:35

Weinstein, like, what do you think is the meta problem?

43:37

The meta crisis we're facing He says

43:39

it's a crisis of capture. It's that actually,

43:42

people aren't acting autonomously. They're

43:44

beholden to, you know,

43:47

in this case, you could call them investors or shareholders, but

43:49

they're actually just contributors, advertisers to this

43:52

whole machine. And so what we're

43:54

basically it feels

43:56

like is our democracy

43:58

is really a corporateocracy. So it

44:00

acts as, you know, much more like a

44:02

corporate much more like a corporation.

44:04

And as you said, when a corporation is

44:06

facing fraud, then there's a regulatory body that ultimately

44:08

goes in, investigates, and finds

44:10

out what's happened, and then whatever

44:12

penalties are

44:14

levied, on that, which by the way, has happened many times to

44:16

all of these big pharma companies.

44:18

They've been fined two billion, one

44:22

billion, Like you look at the whole list, there's not one that has a record

44:24

of not being caught for fraud.

44:26

Right? So let's just establish that that

44:28

all pharma has already been caught for

44:32

fraud, but seems like our whole government

44:34

is now as acting like one giant corporation

44:38

participating in

44:40

395, except they're the regulators

44:42

as well. So, like, what

44:44

is How is this actually if they

44:47

continue to control the narrative? And nobody's

44:49

gonna catch them. I mean, is it possible that

44:51

the government could continue to just double

44:53

down, double down, double down, and this

44:56

corporateocracy could

44:58

just carry on, and there'll just be a small,

45:01

ostracized and kind of

45:03

scapegoated group of individuals who

45:05

trying to express the truth, but actually

45:08

this this just exists

45:10

onward indefinitely. Or do you think there's

45:12

a point in which something can actually

45:15

happen. Maybe, you know, the lawsuits start to actually take

45:17

effect and the courts can actually hold the

45:19

government accountable. Like, is there any

45:21

accountability that we can

45:23

see in this? Two

45:24

things. Let me talk about a term you use meta.

45:27

I've in twenty

45:29

twenty 1III

45:32

had

45:32

character one of the problems people have is they can't believe

45:34

that this

45:34

could go on with all these supposed

45:37

gatekeepers watching and caring

45:40

for us correct? Well, I called it a meta

45:42

fraud. And it's it's not necessarily a

45:44

bunch of guys sitting in a room having

45:46

a conspiracy to, you

45:48

know, poison

45:50

population, it was opportunists who saw cash

45:53

flows and revenue streams. You

45:55

had the pharma industry

45:57

under the color law

46:00

being able to monopolize 395 product that they that you had to get mandated

46:02

injected in your arms. So obviously, they

46:04

were onboard. And so they

46:07

probably pushed this product faster than

46:09

they normally would just to get it out there because they sell

46:11

big dollars. You had the

46:13

tech companies who and social

46:15

media companies who some

46:18

opportunity for compliance and surveillance and

46:20

other cash flow stream. Then you had

46:22

media who's already beholden

46:26

to farm farmer companies because they contribute such a large

46:28

portion of the revenues. And

46:30

then plus with the

46:32

government advertising campaign

46:34

on top, it was

46:36

just a momentum, institutional

46:38

momentum that just kept, you know,

46:40

going 395 the train tracks

46:42

and hurtling

46:44

towards the the ravine, and

46:46

it's not stopping. So what do we do

46:48

now? So to your point, does

46:51

a stop 395 ever come? And it's I

46:53

believe it is. And the reason is and

46:55

and it's tragic, and that's why the book

46:58

is out. The number of people dying from this and being

47:00

injured is the numbers are

47:02

staggering. The disability

47:04

numbers for the employed are about we

47:07

we can certainly estimate one point two million people have

47:09

been disabled of one hundred million at work in this

47:12

country since February

47:14

of twenty twenty

47:15

one. That's a big number. And

47:17

it's and we're probably low.

47:19

And so that these are numbers you

47:21

can't hide. And,

47:24

eventually, the truth will come to light

47:26

why this book was written. And there seems to be word-of-mouth going

47:28

on. The good news is the bivalent

47:30

booster is not being taken

47:32

up. It's eleven percent uptake. So

47:36

word-of-mouth is getting around. And

47:38

we now have governor

47:40

DeSantis, he's got a state's attorney

47:42

general looking into this that's what happened

47:44

in in the big tobacco wars. Once

47:46

state's attorney general's going to involve

47:48

discovery comes, so the wheels

47:50

adjusters are slowly grinding.

47:52

The problem is is that

47:54

as the power is to be Dowd

47:58

down, it continues to kill people. So

48:00

the message I'm trying to get out is just stop taking this booster.

48:02

It doesn't work. Number one. Number

48:04

two, you're at huge risk. So

48:07

I believe a lot in markets in the marginal mine.

48:10

So I believe there's a tipping point

48:12

coming and an awareness. And when it comes,

48:14

it's

48:15

going to have grave implications for

48:18

all

48:18

sorts of institutions and a lot

48:20

of chaos might unfold. But the chaos will

48:23

be necessary to get us to

48:25

be side, which is kind of

48:27

a truth and reconciliation

48:29

commission, a rebuilding of institutions

48:31

based on integrity, and

48:36

tearing down all the incentives for profit

48:38

that seemed to have crept into our

48:40

government institutions. We have to remake the

48:42

system, and it's gonna take some time in

48:44

chaos. But that's kind of where I think it's

48:45

going. And it's kind of a

48:48

grassroots campaign

48:48

at this point, but it's starting to slowly get into

48:50

the body politic. I was happy to

48:52

go see senator Johnson and say what

48:56

I said. And I said to him that it's a national security

48:58

issue because it's been

49:00

detrimental to your health to be employed in twenty one and

49:02

twenty two, and we seem to

49:04

have poisoned the military and

49:06

the the most able-bodied

49:08

amongst

49:08

us. And inadvertently or on

49:10

purpose doesn't matter. I don't care. We just

49:12

need to stop it. Yeah. I mean, some

49:14

of the psychodynamics at play, you know, I've heard

49:17

you talk about it a little bit as

49:19

well as and there's there

49:21

are many many. But I think one of the

49:23

ones that I've seen, you know,

49:26

personally, which is it's really

49:28

actually tragic and I have the deep compassion

49:30

for this at least on it's the

49:32

sunk cost fallacy. And, you know, there's

49:34

a there's a close friend of of

49:36

mine and and some of my other

49:38

friends and, you know, he kinda rushed

49:41

out in the first wave of vaccination and got

49:43

the vaccines and got his children vaccinated

49:45

and, you know,

49:48

got everybody in his family vaccinated. He was he was able through,

49:50

you know, influence and whatever to get

49:52

the earliest batch of vaccines. Like

49:55

very first ones that came out. And I know it's

49:57

supposed to be some kind of lottery, but, you know,

49:59

I think he was at least maybe he won

50:01

the lottery and got it 395. But whatever, he was, like, right

50:03

out of the right out of the gate. And he

50:05

got him. And then, of course and and now and

50:08

actually, at that point, you

50:10

know, we didn't know that much.

50:12

So, you

50:14

know, there's really no you can't

50:16

really hypothesize nearly as much fault for the people who just rushed out

50:18

and got them at that point because

50:21

it was really kind of, well, we don't really know

50:24

that much about it. You know, even for me, I

50:26

was thinking, well, these

50:28

vaccines aren't rejuvenated, so they

50:30

don't have the mercury

50:32

and 395 formaldehyde and whatever else that's

50:34

super toxic in the other vaccines, maybe they'll

50:36

be kind of innocuous, actually. And maybe

50:39

they'll be up. Like, I didn't know. I didn't take it myself, but I was like,

50:41

395 it'll be fine. Like, so I just

50:43

395 put that out there.

50:46

Like, there's lots of times where we just didn't know. But to get back

50:48

to the sunk cost fallacy, you

50:50

know, in offering to

50:52

share this book,

50:54

you know, he

50:56

just said straight up,

50:58

like, look, like, I can't

51:00

I can't handle reading this right

51:03

now. It's too much. It's

51:05

I, you know, I'm vaccinated. My kids

51:07

are vaccinated. Like, I can't I

51:10

can't I can't bear to actually look at

51:12

this. And it was like, there's a deep

51:14

compassion in that. And of course, I'm not gonna,

51:16

like, shove it in his face because this is

51:18

something that's very hard to grapple with and

51:20

so many millions and

51:22

millions of people are in this position

51:24

where they've been they've vaccinated

51:26

themselves, and then they have to realize that they might

51:28

have done some damage to their health. vaccinated

51:30

their children or they've encouraged the general

51:32

public to get vaccinated. So it's

51:34

a huge it's a huge app

51:37

to actually ask

51:39

people to grapple with these

51:41

facts. You know? So they're gonna

51:43

want to see their their celebrating and championing the

51:45

double down of the narrative because it's protective

51:47

to their own

51:48

psychodynamics. Yeah. The sun

51:50

cosmology is a real thing.

51:54

You know, to your point about the early days,

51:56

I mean, I had I had suspicions

51:58

of what was going on. I

52:00

personally know a lot about

52:03

health care and how drugs

52:05

are approved. So I --

52:07

and the fact that it was a

52:09

mean novel technology be under warp speed. My personal view at

52:11

the beginning of this was, I'll wait. I'm not taking

52:14

anything new. Right. That

52:16

was my I was, like, I'll let other people

52:18

wanna be

52:20

experiment with PON. And then quickly, we started hearing

52:22

anecdotes. Now given where

52:24

I am with my knowledge, I

52:27

I'm divorced. I have three kids and

52:30

an ex wife, a wonderful mother of my

52:32

children. They

52:34

took the doses, the initial dose, and I tried to talk them out of it,

52:36

but I didn't have the data I have now.

52:38

This was June of

52:41

twenty twenty one. But I

52:43

will say they didn't find that the Sun cause fallacy, which is once

52:46

they realized what was

52:48

going on, they're

52:51

they're they're stopped, no more boosters.

52:54

Thank Dowd. And

52:56

they don't feel bad. And and I

52:58

offered them hope here's the hope for people who

53:00

did get vaccinated that haven't had any

53:02

side effects or feel fine.

53:05

It seems to

53:08

be that there were some

53:10

hot doses that went out there,

53:12

different lot doses that

53:14

killed more people than others. There's also the

53:16

fact that they manufacture this so fast

53:18

and the storage has to be

53:20

very Dowd. And a lot

53:22

of the implementation of this vac scene

53:25

was poorly A lot of these people weren't trained properly. So if you went to

53:27

your local Walmart or Walgreens,

53:32

and got the jab. If it was left out too long, it degraded,

53:34

and you didn't get the spike

53:36

protein, it just wasn't able to

53:38

take. So and also, they

53:42

didn't shake the doses. So they came in five dose

53:44

395. So if they didn't shake

53:46

it and they Dowd you were the first

53:48

dose out of that bottle, you

53:51

get all the the stuff that was

53:53

supposed to work. So there's a lot

53:55

of hope

53:57

that you didn't actually get what you

54:00

thought you got and it it you you got you got some sort of goop in

54:02

your arm that was degraded. So there's that I

54:04

wanna Dowd that hope to people that

54:07

Yeah. And that's something that I, you know, I had I had a

54:10

podcast with doctor Aditi Vargava and

54:12

actually Kyle Warner who actually

54:14

he appears in one of the

54:16

articles he was a mountain bike racer. And

54:18

and the podcast is called the inconvenient

54:20

injured, and it was basically a couple people

54:22

who'd been injured, including cowater and how they were treated in

54:24

the hospital when they came and said, look, I got

54:26

vaccinated and I have problems with my heart's, you know,

54:28

I'm having this condition in my heart and they were

54:30

kind of shunned and thrown away they actually told him

54:32

that maybe he should go home and try to take a shit. Like, what like, he needed

54:35

to have a bowel movement. just, like, ridiculous the

54:37

way he was treated for this thing. And,

54:39

like, 395 fight like,

54:41

the difficulty in filing the Veres reports, and

54:44

also the fact that filing a false

54:46

Veres claim is a federal offense. So all

54:48

of these Veres numbers, which are which is the

54:50

vaccine adverse event. Reporting

54:52

system. They're already astronomically

54:54

high, but potentially only, you

54:56

know, one study said it might only be

54:58

one percent of the actual And so

55:01

there's massive amounts of things going on. But we also had doctor

55:03

Addity Vargova who echoed some of the same

55:05

sentiments that you said that especially

55:07

the cold storage If

55:09

the vaccines weren't kept cold

55:12

in manufacturing and transport all

55:14

the way through the thing,

55:16

the actual the vaccine

55:18

would degrade and you would be getting something

55:20

that was little more than

55:22

just, you know, water with

55:24

different other, you know, innocuous particles So

55:27

that's one aspect of it. And there's also the other aspect of where and how

55:29

it was injected and

55:32

whether I

55:34

forget get the term, but you can you can pull back on the Aspirate,

55:36

I think. You pull you pull back

55:38

on the needle to see if you're actually in

55:40

395 AAA

55:43

vein. So you're main lining the vaccine or whether

55:45

you're going into the muscle tissue like you're

55:47

supposed to. And they were

55:49

actually given guidance not to do that for whatever

55:51

reason. And so one of the theories that she has is that, alright, a

55:53

lot of these vaccines degraded, so a lot of

55:56

people got

55:58

nothing. And so that accounts for people having no effects. haven't had

56:00

effects yet, you know, you very well might have

56:02

gotten a shot of nothing. And also,

56:06

if a lot of the people who had some real serious effects,

56:08

they might have got it straight intravenously,

56:11

which is in her

56:13

mind also another added risk.

56:16

So basically, there is a lot of hope that if you haven't

56:18

experienced anything yet, perhaps

56:21

you're absolutely completely in the clear

56:23

because you weren't actually given an

56:26

active vaccine or the way it was administered

56:28

was actually a lot safer than the way

56:30

it was administered elsewhere. But do you

56:32

have any data And that's just to kind of back up some of

56:34

the points that you were making. But 395

56:37

Dr. Bargive's perspective, do

56:39

you have any data

56:41

that shows, like, the time frame that's the

56:43

most dangerous. Like, is there a

56:46

window? Is there a window post?

56:48

Like, when is the most

56:50

dangerous window for people

56:52

to have, you know, really serious

56:55

adverse events after taking the

56:57

vaccine. Is it,

56:57

like, right after the second dose? Or do you have

56:59

any data on that? So Interestingly

57:04

enough, one of my partners

57:06

Josh Sterling, who had a feature in the book, has got

57:08

some data from Germany, it shows that

57:10

a lot of the adverse deaths

57:12

occurred after just one Dowd.

57:14

And what that meant was they didn't they

57:16

weren't allowed to come back to the second.

57:19

And so it it can

57:21

happen fast. And then the problem

57:23

we're grappling with is if

57:25

you did end up getting the actual vaccine and it was

57:28

administered properly and you got the actual

57:30

spike protein reproducing in

57:32

your body, there are it looks

57:35

like there's some medium term effects and long term effects. We don't know, but

57:37

they're showing up in the numbers,

57:40

unfortunately. What I can say is,

57:42

if 395 already got the vaccine and

57:44

you're worried about this and I don't want you

57:46

to think there's a ticking time on me, but

57:48

what you can't do is continue to

57:51

get booster. And -- Mhmm. -- I make

57:53

a finance analogy. The original thesis was it

57:55

was gonna prevent COVID and stop transmission.

57:57

Well, that's clearly not

58:00

true. So since your investment

58:02

thesis has been blown out of the water, what

58:04

what you would do if this is a

58:06

stock, you would sell a stock. Well,

58:08

if you got the initial two

58:10

doses and maybe even a booster at this

58:12

point, don't get any more boosters

58:14

because you're getting more along the

58:16

vaccine. You

58:18

wanna go short the vaccine and stop taking it

58:20

because there does seem to be a dose dependent

58:23

effect going on in

58:26

that. Every time you take

58:28

a booster, it's almost like

58:30

Russian and

58:30

Latin, you put another chamber in the Bolt

58:33

a a bullet in the chamber. So -- Mhmm. --

58:35

one of my messages is have

58:38

hope. If you didn't have any adverse

58:40

effects, good for you. I hope you

58:42

the inoculants material, but don't get

58:44

boosters because then you've taken

58:46

another shot at getting the stuff that

58:48

produces the spike protein,

58:50

which it turns out is toxic

58:52

to the body causes a whole host

58:54

of reactions, sometimes fast,

58:56

sometimes slow. So that

58:58

is the hope I'd offer and

59:01

in the finance analogy, your investment thesis, your thesis on

59:03

why you took it originally been

59:05

compromised, don't take

59:08

anymore. Don't get more don't get longer to cover your yeah.

59:11

Cover your position for sure.

59:13

The 395. I just wanna offer

59:15

another hope, which is, you

59:18

know, more metaphysical than actually any of the things

59:20

we said is I just genuinely believe

59:22

in the miraculous nature of the human

59:24

body when coupled with belief

59:26

So the absolute worst thing you can do is to go into

59:29

a spiral of fear and a spiral

59:31

of shame and a spiral of

59:33

signaling to your body that

59:35

you were given poison and that you're going to

59:37

die. Because the nocebo effect is

59:40

real. You know, I think it was Sam Land

59:42

who the doctors It's a famous

59:44

case. The doctor said, Sam, you got you

59:46

got a a tumor, you got two weeks to

59:48

live, and and he's like,

59:50

oh, shit. And then he dies within

59:52

two weeks and then he'd do an autopsy and he didn't

59:54

even have it, you know. And so the

59:56

placebo effect is and

59:58

that's L0NDE 395 you want to look

1:00:00

that up. But the placebo effect, which is believing something is

1:00:02

going to harm you, is very

1:00:04

real. And the placebo effect, which

1:00:06

Dr. Jodas

1:00:08

Benjah leverages to heal all kinds of different things because, of course, we

1:00:10

know it heals things. We account for it in every

1:00:12

clinical trial, the placebo effect, which is

1:00:14

the mind influencing

1:00:16

the body, is start

1:00:18

to harness those powers for yourself. Don't

1:00:20

go down the Nocibo rabbit hole. Tell

1:00:22

yourself that you didn't get the Vax

1:00:24

or that you're absolutely fine. And then if you did and even if you did have

1:00:27

a harmful adverse event, like we have somebody

1:00:29

on our team, a young guy who eats

1:00:31

healthier than anybody I

1:00:34

know, would actually I would assume it would be the absolute pinnacle of health if

1:00:36

I had to make a bet. Who was going to

1:00:38

be the healthiest guy? He was hospitalized

1:00:40

for nine days with stroke,

1:00:43

and he's in his early twenties, you know, after

1:00:45

getting 395 getting vaccinated. And like

1:00:48

So even in

1:00:50

those cases, even if something

1:00:52

did happen, just to

1:00:54

actually double down, go long

1:00:56

on the body's miraculous

1:00:58

power to heal itself and to reverse some of

1:01:00

these conditions. And believe

1:01:02

that reality into existence, which is

1:01:04

scientifically proven. It's called the placebo 395,

1:01:06

and it's just harnessing that for

1:01:08

your own for your own 395. And

1:01:11

that would just be another thing that I would offer is

1:01:13

is really just double down on that belief system and

1:01:15

avoid the other side of it as much

1:01:17

as you can. While, of

1:01:20

course, you know, don't go out and continue to take vaccines

1:01:22

and then try to trick yourself after that.

1:01:24

It won't it won't work that way. But

1:01:28

but just try to be mindful of your own psychology as

1:01:30

you as you move through this, which was also egregious

1:01:32

on behalf of the doctors who kept

1:01:34

saying there's one doctor who said,

1:01:37

not getting vaccinated and walking around

1:01:39

outside is like walking in front of a firing

1:01:41

squad and hoping not to get hit by bullets. And

1:01:43

it's like putting that amount of fear out into the

1:01:46

culture, that's absolutely absolutely malpractice

1:01:48

on behalf of the doctors to avoid

1:01:50

because they actually train doctors about

1:01:53

placebo and placebo effects and

1:01:55

how to actually word things and knowing how they word

1:01:58

things affect the outcome of certain

1:02:00

diagnoses. So they're actually trained in this, but

1:02:02

for whatever reason

1:02:04

during COVID, they ignored all of those best practices, and we're

1:02:06

actually practicing psychological malpractice

1:02:08

on the general public. I agree.

1:02:10

I'd like

1:02:11

to piggyback and 395 you

1:02:13

said, I I have personal experience with

1:02:15

and part of the reason I was suspicious, I

1:02:18

I have experience with the pharmaceutical industry

1:02:20

in the form

1:02:22

of SSRIs. III

1:02:24

had mild anxiety and depression that

1:02:26

was caused by my own

1:02:28

thinking thinking. 395? So

1:02:30

I went to a therapist who then got me to a

1:02:32

psychiatrist, put me on a bunch of

1:02:35

these pharmaceutical 395, and

1:02:37

I got worse. I became

1:02:40

clinically

1:02:41

depressed. And luckily, somebody

1:02:43

in the profession pulled me aside as

1:02:45

I was struggling with this

1:02:46

and said, you're not depressed. You're not

1:02:49

whatever they say you are.

1:02:51

You basically have a

1:02:53

spiritual knowledge. And my

1:02:56

I'm a psychiatrist, I take people off all these drugs.

1:02:58

So I was a train wreck in

1:03:00

two thousand

1:03:00

eleven, 'twelve, and I came

1:03:02

out of it. I'm off all 395,

1:03:06

And like you said, the bodies of where I can was saying, I used God

1:03:08

in spirituality. I gave up all my fears,

1:03:10

and then I used to God, gave

1:03:13

Dowd Lord of

1:03:14

Him, then I also had to do my

1:03:16

part of the bargain, which was get healthy. And I don't drink,

1:03:19

don't smoke. I do

1:03:21

a lot of meditation,

1:03:23

and I do a lot of And

1:03:25

over time, my anxiety

1:03:27

depression is gone. And I don't have to

1:03:29

care about anything anymore because I have

1:03:31

a mindset that As long as I do the next right

1:03:33

thing, life is gonna get better and I'll be rewarded. So I

1:03:36

don't live in fear. And you could the

1:03:38

body is the the 395 a

1:03:41

fabulous healing agent. As long as you get the mind

1:03:43

and the spirit in the same direction and

1:03:45

the avatar, they're physical. So you get

1:03:47

all three clicking, you can

1:03:49

heal almost anything. Or overcome

1:03:52

any obstacle in your life. And so anybody's

1:03:54

been injured by the vaccine. You

1:03:56

get this mindset. You can get you can get

1:03:58

better. I I guarantee you can get better. Amen. Amen.

1:04:00

I believe that I believe that a hundred

1:04:02

percent as well. There was something interesting

1:04:04

that you mentioned that actually you

1:04:09

know, if you're gonna look at what the effects of this are

1:04:11

in the macro that you know,

1:04:13

one, there's some there's some trouble

1:04:15

ahead for insurance companies

1:04:18

that are paying out these life insurance policies that

1:04:20

didn't price in this increase of

1:04:22

of deaths. And that's trouble for

1:04:24

the insurance companies because they could effectively

1:04:28

default if they continue to have to pay

1:04:30

payout on policies that they

1:04:32

weren't pricing in, you know, at

1:04:34

the beginning. And then there's labor shortages that may be So from an

1:04:37

economic lens, you I I was seeing

1:04:39

you kinda go and explore this. And of course, that's one

1:04:41

of the ways that your mind

1:04:44

works. Is just seeing, like, alright. Well, what's gonna happen to these big

1:04:46

these big kind of entities

1:04:48

and sectors that we're seeing in the economy?

1:04:50

And then how's that going to affect

1:04:54

the global economy moving forward. So I'd love for you

1:04:56

to just touch on what you see from

1:04:58

a from 395 economic perspective about

1:05:01

what might happen because of what's happening here

1:05:03

with the with the excess deaths. Yeah. Let's start with the

1:05:06

macro. So the macro these

1:05:08

numbers are big.

1:05:10

They're not small. I talked

1:05:12

about let's just use the U. S. As an

1:05:14

example. Disabilities in the

1:05:16

employed. One point two million is

1:05:18

probably higher. The unemployment rate is three percent there's about one hundred

1:05:20

million employed in the

1:05:22

country actually doing jobs.

1:05:24

That's a big number. So

1:05:27

a lot of the wage or

1:05:30

the health wanted ads and labor

1:05:32

shortages you're seeing are

1:05:34

not the great resignation. They're not,

1:05:36

you know, millennials getting lazy or

1:05:38

people going on disability just to get

1:05:40

collected check. It's actually

1:05:42

happening. And it's

1:05:44

gonna affect our economy

1:05:46

for years to come. Because

1:05:48

with labor shortages, that's

1:05:50

wage inflation. So inflation's kind of here

1:05:52

to stay. There'll be periods of deflationary outs

1:05:55

with 395, but we're going to have

1:05:57

labor shortages. And that augurs

1:06:00

poorly for all sorts of goods

1:06:02

and services that we've taken

1:06:04

for granted and it's gonna cause supply chain

1:06:05

breakages, which we're already

1:06:08

seeing. I'm hearing anecdotal stories

1:06:10

from

1:06:11

radiologists who've

1:06:12

heard what I'm talking about. And they say, yes,

1:06:14

we have a shortage of radiologists because

1:06:17

the hospital industry was mandated

1:06:19

fully to take these jobs.

1:06:22

We're not able to get to these

1:06:24

MRI cats scans in

1:06:27

a timely fashion. So

1:06:29

diagnoses are being way. So you

1:06:31

just start to multiply these little things across

1:06:34

the economy.

1:06:36

Our world's gonna change slowly. And I one

1:06:38

of the examples I offer on my way way is

1:06:40

my my Audi a six was hit at a stop sign

1:06:42

and it was a fender bender. My radiator

1:06:45

was damaged, but it wasn't

1:06:47

it wasn't, like, jumped car

1:06:49

kind of because of the

1:06:51

labor shortages in the auto

1:06:53

body shops and the park shortages

1:06:55

and the shortages

1:06:58

that across the food was insurance

1:07:00

company to junk the thing. After this

1:07:02

July fourteenth was the

1:07:05

accident in November, got

1:07:07

my check for way more than the car was worth because they can

1:07:10

sell it for parts. And this is this is

1:07:12

a kind of a strange things we're

1:07:14

gonna see

1:07:16

empty shelves. You know, just

1:07:18

shortages of all sorts of

1:07:20

first 395. It's it's

1:07:22

gonna kinda become third world ish

1:07:25

in a way. If 395 makes sense from a macro

1:07:27

standpoint. And then you go down to the

1:07:30

industries, obviously, the insurance companies are

1:07:32

still asleep at the switch. I was listening

1:07:34

to their Q2

1:07:36

conference calls and Q3 conference

1:07:38

395. On Q2, they

1:07:41

predicted excess mortality would

1:07:43

start go down and get more normalized as time

1:07:45

went on. But that's not happening.

1:07:48

So in the most recent quarter, a

1:07:50

couple of companies had some really bad

1:07:52

results. Lincoln Financial, which

1:07:54

is a big insurance company, when their

1:07:56

stock price went down thirty percent in a

1:07:58

day. And if you know anything about insurance companies.

1:08:00

That kind of volatility does not happen. That's like a a 395

1:08:03

stock blowing up. This does not happen to

1:08:05

insurance companies. We're down thirty

1:08:08

percent did issue convertible preferred bonds

1:08:11

to recapitalize. And

1:08:13

they got in trouble

1:08:16

because they got their excess mortality,

1:08:18

assumptions wrong, and they have a policy called universal life, which is a lot they're

1:08:21

allowed to lapse the

1:08:23

policy. They lapse rate

1:08:25

assumptions are 395 because people are not lapsing the policy. There's there's they're hanging on to

1:08:28

it. Why do you think statistically more

1:08:30

people are hanging on to it because we

1:08:32

didn't

1:08:35

sec. And so Lincoln Financial is just,

1:08:37

I think, the baresterns of the

1:08:40

financial crisis before

1:08:42

Lehman. So Lincoln Financial is a harbinger

1:08:45

of what kind of pain is coming

1:08:47

395 insurance companies unless they wake up and

1:08:49

they don't seem to be. Unfortunately Well,

1:08:51

what what can they what can they do if they wake up

1:08:53

though? I mean, how do they how do they recap? I

1:08:55

mean, they still have to pay out

1:08:57

on the on the terms that

1:08:59

they already agreed on the pricing for

1:09:01

Well, they they have a good

1:09:02

but but what they can do is raise current pricing -- Uh-huh.

1:09:05

-- or and

1:09:08

or take of their profits and

1:09:10

increase their reserve losses. What happens that's bad is when they're surprised and

1:09:12

they're surprised at the moment. If

1:09:14

they continue to get surprised 395 continue

1:09:19

to assume excess mortality is going to

1:09:21

go back to normal. They will continue

1:09:23

to lose money. So they don't

1:09:25

know how to price their

1:09:27

product at the moment. That's a big premium. That

1:09:29

that's their job.

1:09:30

It's the price product. So, I mean, if you were still

1:09:32

if you were still at

1:09:34

at BlackRock and you're in you

1:09:37

had an investment thesis, the thesis would be to

1:09:39

go short these big, you know, these big

1:09:43

insurance company stocks. Useful Shortage of difficulty as you

1:09:45

know. But, yeah, I would I would if I was a long only manager of Blackhawk, I would

1:09:47

own zero

1:09:50

insurance

1:09:51

companies. And I would stay away from

1:09:53

anything that's affected

1:09:55

by labor shortages, any

1:09:59

business model that labor is a

1:10:01

big part of their margin

1:10:04

structure. I'd be thinking

1:10:06

this way. Wanna wholly own businesses that have not a

1:10:08

lot of employees that have strong you know,

1:10:10

this is a kind of that's my

1:10:13

brain just starts going. Yeah.

1:10:16

What do you think this means for I

1:10:18

mean, and this is a bigger question and

1:10:20

it has a lot of different factors. But

1:10:22

if you're gonna look, we got inflation

1:10:24

and just zooming out of the

1:10:26

of the COVID. COVID being a factor in this larger picture, but just tapping

1:10:31

into your experience in analyzing the economy

1:10:33

as a whole. I mean, what do you think we're what do you think we're looking at,

1:10:35

you know, as as

1:10:39

an economy, as what's gonna happen? Are we

1:10:41

gonna keep raising rates to try and combat inflation? And then the stock price is gonna continue to go

1:10:43

down? Like, what's an overall

1:10:47

picture of just just your best estimation

1:10:49

of what the next few years hold from a, you know, US

1:10:51

economic perspective. Yeah.

1:10:55

So my few partners are PhD 395 in Portugal.

1:10:57

And Carlos has got great

1:10:59

early cycle indicators and

1:11:02

models. And he's been

1:11:04

predicting a mild

1:11:06

recession earlier in the year as of January, February. But

1:11:08

as of this

1:11:11

summer into the fall, 395

1:11:14

have this expansion index. We track

1:11:17

early cycle indicators. It's looking like

1:11:19

a deep deep perception in q

1:11:21

one and q two. Bear minimum.

1:11:23

Gonna happen. It's unavoidable. Our expansion index is

1:11:25

at minus ninety percent. So it's in

1:11:27

the cards. It's

1:11:30

baked into the cake. You

1:11:32

don't even need Carlos and his

1:11:34

economic cycle indicators to tell you that because historically when the Federal Reserve goes

1:11:39

from zero up four hundred plus

1:11:41

basis points in less than nine months. You can look at the Goldman

1:11:44

Sachs financial 395

1:11:47

it's risen by four hundred basis points. And

1:11:50

every one percent move in that index

1:11:52

usually takes one to

1:11:54

two points of

1:11:55

GDP, the economy, nine

1:11:58

to twelve months out. So what's going to happen is bake into the cake. We're going into a hard recession

1:12:03

in Q1, Q2. Whether

1:12:08

it's turned systemic, I don't

1:12:10

know. Systemic means some big

1:12:12

financial institutions fail 395 a result

1:12:14

of it and it is a daisy chain

1:12:16

effect. But it's going to

1:12:18

be like

1:12:19

the nineteen ninety recession or two

1:12:21

thousand, two thousand and one.

1:12:23

The great financial crisis 395,

1:12:26

but it's gonna be hard and

1:12:28

it's gonna be deep. And we'll see

1:12:30

what happens coming out of it,

1:12:32

but one of the other things that I

1:12:34

worry about is we kinda seem to be at the end of the dollar system because we

1:12:37

saw some anomalies go on

1:12:39

that we've never

1:12:42

395. This has been the first

1:12:44

commodity cycle. We had

1:12:45

a two hundred percent advance in the

1:12:47

CRB in the very

1:12:50

amount of time since the Fed

1:12:52

money printing. But what also we saw

1:12:54

was the dollar going up at the same

1:12:57

time. And if you know anything about

1:12:59

commodities, cycles. They only go up when the dollar is

1:13:01

declining because of differentiation. We've had

1:13:03

these two go up

1:13:06

at the same time. So what

1:13:08

we're seeing is a global credit contraction

1:13:10

with a commodity cycle surge never happened before. So

1:13:13

it kinda it's

1:13:15

a signpost that perhaps we're

1:13:17

at the end of the sovereign debt bubble and and the guts of the system

1:13:19

are breaking. That's why there's talk a central bank digital currency

1:13:22

and a great reset and a

1:13:24

new

1:13:27

Well, I I say a new world order, a new monetary system.

1:13:29

I think that's --

1:13:32

Mhmm. --

1:13:34

is yeah, that all sounds, you know,

1:13:36

that all leads into a

1:13:38

lot more theories about why this

1:13:40

whole thing happened in the first place.

1:13:42

And, you know, there's a lot of theories about

1:13:44

finances. I mean, I think BlackRock was actually one of the

1:13:46

first people to come out and say that the US economy

1:13:48

was facing in there's

1:13:51

a twenty nineteen report saying

1:13:54

that US economy was facing significant threat unless a few conditions happened. One was

1:13:56

that the

1:13:59

government went direct and actually gave

1:14:01

a bunch of money to the people,

1:14:03

course there was a

1:14:06

way to, you know, stop

1:14:09

the stop the inflationary inflationary pressure of that

1:14:11

money just creating massive hyperinflation immediately, which

1:14:15

was also accomplished by the lockdown of

1:14:17

so many businesses so the money couldn't

1:14:20

flow in that way. And it's it's

1:14:22

interesting. And just one of the threads

1:14:24

and this is not the topic of

1:14:26

our of our podcast here, but there's a lot of people who start to link these threads and find

1:14:31

economic motives behind behind the

1:14:33

scenes here about people who really understand the the economics and understand

1:14:35

how fragile our

1:14:39

economic system is. And potentially

1:14:42

how this, you know, this situation was,

1:14:45

like, leveraged and

1:14:48

capitalized upon

1:14:50

to actually meet some financial

1:14:52

goals that that needed to be

1:14:54

met to just keep everything afloat in

1:14:56

a certain way. In two thousand

1:14:58

nineteen, Those of us in the financials were tracking the

1:15:00

beginnings of the crack in the system. There were

1:15:02

a there was what was called

1:15:05

a repo crisis in overnight lending rates. That

1:15:07

was starting in October of twenty nineteen

1:15:09

and credit contraction was

1:15:12

beginning. The stock markets did go

1:15:14

up a little higher, but you could

1:15:16

tell was coming

1:15:18

close to the end. And

1:15:20

then, mysteriously, COVID appeared in February, March

1:15:23

of twenty twenty. And that that's

1:15:27

there's there's, you know, two types of economic downturns.

1:15:29

There's a shock that's forced

1:15:32

by governments

1:15:34

and or,

1:15:35

you know, or there's internal shocks. Internal

1:15:37

shocks are worse to deal with. This

1:15:39

is 395 external shock that

1:15:42

was met with money printing. And he gave the Federal Reserve an an excuse to print

1:15:44

unprecedented amounts of 395, sixty

1:15:46

five percent growth in the money

1:15:50

395 gave them

1:15:52

new powers to buy corporate credit that they

1:15:54

never had been able to do. So

1:15:58

whether or not COVID appeared time or was engineered who cares,

1:16:01

it was used as an

1:16:03

excuse across the globe to print

1:16:05

more money and spend like drunken sailors

1:16:07

on the political side. For

1:16:10

sure. And what all that's really resulted in is kicking the can down the road another two Here

1:16:12

we are. We're curating

1:16:14

towards a deep global recession.

1:16:19

And the other thing I'd like to offer is what is

1:16:21

going on in China. So

1:16:24

China, my my partners,

1:16:26

especially Carl Assured book called

1:16:29

economic cycles, demographics, and debt. And in that book, he highlighted that China was

1:16:31

gonna hit a demographic

1:16:36

wall twenty

1:16:37

twenty?

1:16:37

Well, twenty twenty

1:16:38

is also

1:16:38

when COVID appeared on the scene. And what demographics are

1:16:40

destiny? And a lot

1:16:42

of China's growth had been

1:16:45

initially funded by

1:16:46

our -- moving our manufacturing over there. So

1:16:48

a lot of the investment in

1:16:50

debt that was raised was good

1:16:54

money good in that it funded manufacturing plants.

1:16:57

But then as the great

1:16:59

financial crisis hit, the

1:17:01

last 395, fourteen

1:17:03

years of that in China has been

1:17:05

infrastructure in Go Cities. And their population

1:17:08

growth is able to fill

1:17:10

those projects and service the debt,

1:17:12

but the chickens

1:17:14

have come on the roost and now they're imploding economically. And we forecast their growth rate long

1:17:16

term is going to drop

1:17:18

to two percent to three percent

1:17:22

because of this demographic wall.

1:17:24

And so, China has what we

1:17:26

call a zero COVID

1:17:27

policy. And a and a and a

1:17:30

third tiering,

1:17:31

totalitarian government. That seems like an insane policy. Well, that's a good

1:17:33

policy if you 395 to prevent

1:17:35

food riots, employment

1:17:40

riots, and just riots in general. And

1:17:42

that's what we're we've been hearing about lately. It's the riots in

1:17:45

China and

1:17:48

the protests A lot of people say

1:17:50

it's due to COVID policies. I say it's due to economic problems, and this is just cover in the control

1:17:52

system. So it's

1:17:55

a convenient control system. To

1:17:58

blame on something else other than your own

1:18:00

failed policies and your own government? Howard Bauchner: So, you

1:18:02

know, and I know you gotta get off here soon.

1:18:05

395 I would love to talk to

1:18:07

you about a a billion different things. But if if we had to leave people

1:18:09

with a message of some hope and some action steps they can take just like we did to

1:18:11

the people who've vaccinated

1:18:16

those they love. You know, if someone's hearing

1:18:18

this on the financial side and said, like,

1:18:20

alright. You know, I was I

1:18:22

was feeling hopeful, but now I'm feeling

1:18:25

absolutely desperate in in in despair about what's financially coming. Like, what

1:18:28

are some

1:18:32

steps that you know, people

1:18:34

can take to actually, you know, protect themselves in an impending, you know, financial crisis

1:18:36

like like maybe

1:18:39

coming? Well, first, 395, like

1:18:42

we talked about for the vaccinated, fear is

1:18:44

the mind killer. You can't be in fear.

1:18:46

And once you get 395 fear, you

1:18:49

make stupid decisions. What I've been telling

1:18:51

people since January, February, who asked my 395, and I've said

1:18:53

on some of the this podcast I've been

1:18:55

on is cash is not

1:18:57

a bad thing to

1:19:00

having your portfolio. Cash is a

1:19:02

position. And even though there's inflation 395, you

1:19:05

get a way

1:19:08

financial assets dropping way

1:19:10

more than the inflation. And so cash in an

1:19:16

inflationary Michael. It's not that 395 financial assets are

1:19:18

going to unload and I believe they are. We've already lost twenty percent on the U.

1:19:20

S. Stock market. Other sectors have

1:19:22

been more devastated. So I've been recommending

1:19:25

cash is a part of your portfolio and why do I

1:19:27

do that? Now whether you go all cash, I leave

1:19:27

that up to you.

1:19:30

But the point I make

1:19:32

is when

1:19:35

the news is really, really bad and

1:19:37

it sounds like the world's ending, do

1:19:39

what JPMorgan evolved a hundred years ago

1:19:41

and do buy when he's blood in

1:19:43

the streets because you know, there

1:19:45

will be some will rise on the other side and there will be another

1:19:48

cycle. So, calcium

1:19:50

dry powder in your

1:19:52

portfolio 395 when

1:19:54

the news is as awful as it can

1:19:56

be, and some stocks are

1:19:58

down ninety, eighty percent, start

1:20:01

going back in or bonds. I mean,

1:20:03

this is what the true wealthy individuals of

1:20:05

the globe do. They they

1:20:08

accumulate cash at the top of the cycle

1:20:10

and they buy when everyone's selling at the

1:20:12

bottom. When the news

1:20:14

flows 395 worst. Markets top on euphoria, the bottom on bad news. Now the news is

1:20:16

not as it's not as bad as

1:20:18

it needs to be for a bottom.

1:20:22

I think we're going to see some sort of

1:20:24

bottom in Q1, Q2 and

1:20:26

Q3 of next year. But cash

1:20:28

is not a bad place to

1:20:30

be. That's just I I

1:20:31

don't wanna I don't suggest you try shorting

1:20:34

or using futures markets 395,

1:20:36

you know, raise

1:20:39

some cash. That's that's the best advice I can

1:20:41

offer. It's free, and I'm not gonna charge you for you. Yeah. Yeah. No.

1:20:44

It's it's sound advice. And

1:20:46

then metals, I mean, is this

1:20:49

this was always a safe harbor in any

1:20:51

times of, you know, economic instability, but it seems like the the metals are are

1:20:53

not doing what they

1:20:55

used to do and they're

1:20:57

actually trending, you know, a little bit differently now than than they used to. There should be a place

1:20:59

where yeah. Yeah. There's two

1:21:01

reasons for that. So Bitcoin

1:21:04

became 395 competitor

1:21:06

to gold and silver, and that's captured the imagination

1:21:09

of a

1:21:12

lot of young people that

1:21:14

would have traditionally bought gold and silver if they had the mindset that the world was not as it as it

1:21:16

seems. So that that

1:21:18

has been competition for assets.

1:21:22

395 secondly, I talked about the dollar

1:21:24

going up. I think the dollar system

1:21:26

fails with the dollar going up

1:21:29

395 up.

1:21:30

And what I mean by that is credit creation

1:21:32

causes the dollar to go down.

1:21:34

That's expansionary for economies and and whatnot.

1:21:37

When the dollar is going up, that's

1:21:39

an that's a contraction of credit. So gold is tied

1:21:41

to the dollar unfortunately

1:21:43

as 395. So

1:21:45

I'm not suggesting that long term. They're

1:21:48

not great investments because if there's a

1:21:50

new system, there'll be a new trading

1:21:52

relationship. But I think if

1:21:54

you 395 on gold and silver,

1:21:57

papers, the futures market has always been

1:21:59

rigged. Having physical gold and silver is not a bad idea hand 395 don't

1:22:04

have it. A brokerage

1:22:06

in the futures account. I don't think that's wise. Right. And real estate is probably,

1:22:08

you know, subject to

1:22:11

these economic conditions as well.

1:22:14

So it's it's a little bit dicey to Thanks for tuning into

1:22:16

this podcast in our real

1:22:17

estate. Unless you talk a lot about numbers, you

1:22:19

know, what I wanted to anchor beginning with

1:22:21

how a most smart your life, high school, the number

1:22:23

for everyone being a human life and to just

1:22:26

hold the utmost compassion.

1:22:28

Real for collaborators

1:22:30

for the people who agree with you and disagree with you. In these trying times, we

1:22:32

all have to cover together

1:22:34

one way that is revolutionary. And

1:22:39

the revolution's gonna be a

1:22:39

revolutionary solidarity. And I just invite

1:22:42

everybody to look at all of

1:22:44

this with

1:22:46

that type of mindset. And know that devices is

1:22:48

connected to the renaissance that

1:22:50

I know must come. On

1:22:52

the north side, I don't think

1:22:55

we're experiencing for appreciate you guys. I'll see

1:22:57

you next week.

1:22:58

Be patient real estate stickier than

1:23:01

the financial markets

1:23:04

because sellers always think that

1:23:06

they their home is special. So wait a minute. Your

1:23:08

home is special,

1:23:11

everybody. It is. Ed, thank

1:23:13

you so thank you so much, and and

1:23:16

I just deeply appreciate your

1:23:18

work. And and I hope this

1:23:20

podcast reaches

1:23:22

people and and gives them, you know, the

1:23:24

truth, but also some hope, you

1:23:26

know, some hope about, you know, how

1:23:28

can we how we can weather the storm.

1:23:31

And if you know anything about the human history,

1:23:33

we've weathered a lot of different

1:23:35

storms. Every plague and

1:23:37

pestilence and war and calamity and, you

1:23:39

know, authoritarianism and everything. We weathered it all,

1:23:41

and we've always come through, and and I

1:23:43

believe in I believe in people. And

1:23:46

it doesn't mean we don't have to take and

1:23:48

and and let our voices be heard. But also, I

1:23:50

just have a deep faith that we're gonna we're gonna come

1:23:52

through this. Times

1:23:55

may be 395, but you

1:23:57

know, pull together, pull tight, you know, keep your heart open,

1:23:59

and stay out of fear. And and let's do this together. Absolutely. I

1:24:01

believe a renaissance is

1:24:03

on the other side. 395

1:24:06

from all,

1:24:06

the great evils, great goods usually come. It's a cycle of human history. Unfortunately, we've had

1:24:09

a great evil in the last

1:24:11

couple of decades and

1:24:15

on the other side, we'll have a Renaissance is my

1:24:17

hope. Let's go. Let's

1:24:19

go. Thank you so much.

1:24:21

I deeply appreciate you. The

1:24:24

book is called cause unknown. It's available on

1:24:26

Amazon and just be ready for an

1:24:28

emotional ride if you if you

1:24:30

take a look at this book.

1:24:32

Because it definitely definitely hit me really hard. Thank

1:24:34

you so much everybody for tuning in. We'll see you next week. Thank you.

1:24:36

Thanks for tuning into this

1:24:39

podcast with Ed Dow. Dowd

1:24:42

talk a lot about numbers and I wanted

1:24:44

to anchor at the beginning how

1:24:46

emotionally impactful these numbers are, every

1:24:49

number being a human life and to

1:24:51

just hold the utmost compassion for your neighbors,

1:24:53

for the people who agree with

1:24:55

you, and disagree with

1:24:57

you. And in these

1:25:00

trying times, we all have to come together in

1:25:02

a way that is revolutionary, and the revolution is gonna be a revolution of solidarity.

1:25:04

And I just invite everybody to

1:25:06

look at all of this with that

1:25:10

type of mindset and know that divisiveness

1:25:12

is the enemy to the

1:25:14

renaissance that we know must come

1:25:16

on the backside of everything that

1:25:18

we're experiencing here. So thanks for tuning appreciate you

1:25:21

guys, and I'll see

1:25:23

you next week.