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Welcome, everyone, to a
0:02
new episode of audaciously
0:07
speaking, this is actually going
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to be the episode that will
0:12
start off a series of episodes.
0:12
I'm very excited about it. And
0:19
before I go any further, I want
0:19
to say hello to my niece, and my
0:23
nephew, Luke, and my niece,
0:23
Bella, this is for you guys. So
0:28
in this episode, I'm gonna tell
0:28
you about an experience that I
0:33
had at the University of Miami
0:33
as a freshman, and what I
0:39
learned from it in hindsight,
0:39
and at that moment, so there are
0:47
lessons that we learn when we
0:47
look back at things. And there
0:51
are lessons that we learn right
0:51
then and there as we're
0:53
experiencing it. And these
0:53
lessons helped me way after the
1:01
experience. So I'm hoping it's
1:01
going to help you too. I wanted
1:06
to talk about how at the
1:06
University of Miami, it was
1:09
1988. That was before the
1:09
Americans with Disability Act.
1:15
And it's after the
1:15
Rehabilitation Act of Section
1:20
504. I went there, and I was
1:20
really excited about it.
1:25
It's supposed to be the Harvard of the South.
1:26
That's what I was told in 1988,
1:32
there were articles and
1:32
everyone's so excited that I was
1:35
going, it was really a big deal.
1:35
And I was the first person in my
1:39
family to go to college, so it's
1:39
a bigger deal. And then of
1:44
course, we have to remember that
1:44
I'm disabled. And so that makes
1:48
it even bigger, bigger deal. So
1:48
anyway, I was having a really
1:53
good time there. You know, I
1:53
enjoyed learning, I enjoyed the
1:56
professors, I enjoyed
1:56
everything. one day, I needed to
2:01
use the bathroom, and I didn't
2:01
know where to go. So there's a
2:06
sign in the Eye, which by the
2:06
way, the building the Student
2:10
Union, and everybody is there.
2:10
It's right next to the
2:13
bookstore. It's in the eye, when
2:13
people buy their food, watch TV,
2:19
there's a bowling alley, I mean,
2:19
it was the place to be. And in
2:24
the breezeway, that's where
2:24
you're going to find a lot of
2:27
people with tables set up,
2:27
always asking you to sign a
2:32
petition or join the club or,
2:32
you know, really get involved in
2:36
the whole school college
2:36
environment. And I was so
2:39
excited about that. And it's
2:39
really . Does anybody know where
2:43
the bathroom is? So these people
2:43
point to the door. And I'm like,
2:47
Okay, great. So there's a door
2:47
for the men, there's a door for
2:52
the women. And then there are
2:52
water fountains. So I went ahead
2:57
and I go into the female one.
2:57
And I noticed that there is not
3:02
a single stall that I can use.
3:02
At the very, very end, though,
3:08
there is a stall. That's not
3:08
really a stall. Yes, it has a
3:13
toilet. But then it has a shower
3:13
curtain, any rod for the shower.
3:21
And I'm thinking to myself, no
3:21
way. They really cannot think
3:26
that someone in a wheelchair is
3:26
going to use that. How is that
3:30
right? So I thought there must
3:30
be a mistake. And I go outside,
3:35
and I look to see who can give
3:35
me an explanation of it. And I
3:41
see somebody, one of the
3:41
custodians, and like excuse me,
3:46
I have to use the bathroom. Can
3:46
you tell me which one? So she
3:50
points to the same exact area
3:50
And I said to her, nope, it's
3:54
not there. I don't find one. And
3:54
she looks at me like How can
3:57
that be? So she told me to
3:57
follow her. And you know what?
4:04
She pointed to that same stall
4:04
with nothing there except a
4:10
shower curtain. And I said to
4:10
her, this can't be it. And she
4:14
spoke Spanish more than English
4:14
so I told her in Spanish like
4:18
this is not it can't be it. And
4:18
she said, yeah, that's what they
4:21
have. And I go, No, I can't go
4:21
to the bathroom there. That's
4:25
not right. The woman said if
4:25
you want I can stay there and
4:29
watch, make sure that nobody
4:29
bothers you. And I really really
4:33
have to go. So I said okay,
4:33
okay. now I'm taking a chance on
4:38
a stranger holding the door of a
4:38
shower curtain door because not
4:44
even a door to make sure that
4:44
nobody invades my privacy. And I
4:50
was really upset. So I finished
4:50
I washing
4:54
my hands. I thank her. And I knew I had to
4:54
get the bottom of this. I
4:58
thought this cannot Be it. And I
4:58
thought about it and go What
5:04
happened to the rest of the
5:04
campus. So, as time went on, I
5:09
started looking for more
5:09
bathrooms, to see if there were
5:12
any for people who use wheelcha
5:12
rs, nothing. And I went ahead, a
5:19
d I thought, This is so weird.
5:19
I'm 18 years old. And in my en
5:24
ire life, I have never had to g
5:24
to the bathroom without a doo
5:29
. That is a shower curtain.
5:29
I went home, of course, on the d
5:34
y that happened. And I told my m
5:34
m, and she was like, That's c
5:38
azy. I got totally insane. I ha
5:38
to do something about this. And
5:46
I went ahead, and I asked Dr. f
5:46
ipsie, who is the person
5:52
hat is supposedly the person t
5:52
at all disabled people went t
5:56
rough, during their time
5:56
at the University of Miami.
6:00
or any needs, or for any suggest
6:00
ons or anything at all. If
6:06
ou are disabled person, as Dr. f
6:06
ipsie, he is the man. I asked h
6:12
m, and he comes in, he meets me
6:12
at the Eye. And he says to
6:17
e, oh, what's the problem? So
6:17
I told him, when he said,
6:21
ou can always go to the clinic
6:21
if you have to use the bathro
6:24
m. And I'm thinking, Okay, wher
6:24
's the clinic? And the clinic
6:29
is far away. So if I have to
6:29
se the bathroom, I have to go fa
6:36
away. But everybody else gets
6:36
to use all of these bathroo
6:39
s. Why don't they just fix the o
6:39
e that has the shower curtain?
6:44
nd you know, Dr Flipsie if y
6:44
u know him. He's only like a San
6:48
a Claus looking man, very joll
6:48
, very happy. And everything
6:52
s pretty much laughed off or
6:52
ot a big deal kind of attitude
6:56
And I'm thinking, well, then n
6:56
body should have a door. If I
7:02
on't get a door, nobody else sh
7:02
uld. It's not fair. Now, mind
7:06
ou, this is before the ADA. S
7:06
no one is thinking. Oh, ye
7:10
h, we're doing something wr
7:10
ng. As a matter of fact, I di
7:13
n't even know that there was a
7:13
aw in place before the ADA. That
7:20
was supposed to insure me of
7:20
having some kind of respect, you
7:26
know, to go to the bathroom. So
7:26
I went ahead and I'm like, Okay,
7:30
no problem. So I'm really having
7:30
an issue with this, because the
7:34
University of Miami campus is
7:34
very large. And to have to go to
7:39
the bathroom at the clinic was
7:39
not something. I wanted. to te
7:45
l you this because right now I c
7:45
n say it calmly that at the tim
7:50
, I was very angry. I mean, we'
7:50
e talking very hot headed abo
7:54
t this. Because I couldn't belie
7:54
e it. The University of Miami
7:58
s so expensive. How did they g
7:58
t away with this? Why are th
8:02
y doing this to me? That's wh
8:02
t I'm thinking, why are they doi
8:06
g this? To me? I didn't ask to
8:06
e humiliated this way. So I
8:14
m getting really upset about i
8:14
. And then someone said, you kn
8:17
w what you should you should wri
8:17
e a letter to the University
8:21
f Miami, newspaper, the hurrican
8:21
. And I'm thinking, well, I don
8:26
t know how that's gonna help m
8:26
. But okay. So I go ahead, and
8:29
I write it. And then t
8:29
e University of Miami says to m
8:33
, the hurricane, the newspap
8:33
r says, Why don't you just write
8:38
a column on it? I thought, oka
8:38
, I'll do that. So I went ahe
8:44
d and wrote a column because a l
8:44
t of people with titles, we
8:51
e telling me how I was making
8:51
a big deal over nothing. As
8:55
a matter of fact, you're not gon
8:55
a believe this. But even oth
8:58
r students were like, well, it
8:58
s not a big deal to go to t
9:02
e clinic and come back, then
9:02
I found out that there w
9:06
s actually a bathroom I could u
9:06
e on the second floor of t
9:10
e Student Union Building. But
9:10
I had to go, you know, push
9:13
a little farther than everyo
9:13
e else. And no one thought th
9:17
t was a problem either. I
9:17
m thinking in my brain. Why don
9:23
t you go a little further? Why
9:23
do I have to, I'm the one in
9:27
he wheelchair. Why do I have to
9:27
ake more steps more actions to
9:33
et what you get for nothing?
9:37
But you know, we'll let it go.
9:37
So I wrote an article in the
9:40
newspaper. And I remembered that
9:40
instead of getting all "good for
9:45
you, you know way to go". I
9:45
actually got more heat about it.
9:49
In the end, I had written surfs
9:49
up dude, because I said I was
9:54
going to cause waves. Because by
9:54
now I'm really getting upset. I
9:57
started noticing how many others
9:57
things on campus Were not
10:02
accessible to me. I was actually
10:02
struggling. And I didn't even
10:07
know that I was struggling when
10:07
I didn't have to be, for
10:12
example, you know, sliding
10:12
doors, automatic doors, they
10:17
should be everywhere. Why do I
10:17
have to struggle to open doors?
10:22
or Why do I have to walk slowly
10:22
so that when I see somebody who
10:27
can walk that's going in the
10:27
same direction, and hoping,
10:30
okay, they're going to open the
10:30
door, the same time I get there,
10:34
and then the door for me. Yeah,
10:34
that's what I'll do. And then I
10:38
realized now, decades later,
10:38
that I was actually training
10:44
myself to do what I needed,
10:44
based on the actions of others.
10:52
So it would be convenient for
10:52
them. So it's not about me
10:56
struggling opening that door,
10:56
it's about me going slow enough.
11:01
And yet fast enough, sure that
11:01
whoever gets to that door first,
11:05
will open it for me. Because the
11:05
doors was so heavy. Also, at the
11:11
University of Miami, there was a
11:11
huge drop, a long ramp made out
11:17
of like tile show, when it
11:17
rains, it would be dangerous for
11:21
me to go down that. But once
11:21
again, I did my very best to
11:26
avoid going down that area. So
11:26
in a way I was using these
11:31
outdoing actions that made my
11:31
life easier at the moment. But
11:37
also I was missing out on
11:37
things. Because because they
11:41
weren't available to me, like
11:41
everyone else. Interesting, but
11:45
true. Then I said, You know
11:45
what, Nathash, just go have a
11:50
good time. Sure, go to a
11:50
football game. That's very cool.
11:53
I'm gonna go to a football game.
11:53
And I wanted to get a ticket. I
11:57
saw everybody lined up. So I got
11:57
on that line too. Because we're
12:02
all going to go to a football
12:02
game. When it was my turn. First
12:06
of all, the counter is way up
12:06
there. so now, I feel like a
12:11
little girl asking for
12:11
permission to go to a football
12:15
game. And the person says to me,
12:15
Oh, no, we don't have a ticket
12:20
for you. I'm like, What? Why
12:20
not? if you want a ticket, then
12:26
you can go with your ID. But if
12:26
you want to bring someone you
12:30
have to give them a ticket, you
12:30
have to go all the way to the I
12:34
think it was like the athletic
12:34
department building. And you
12:38
actually have to take a car to
12:38
get there because no one can
12:41
push all that. well, I can't do
12:41
that. Why do I have to go all
12:47
the way over there? I'm gonna go
12:47
because you know, you need, you
12:51
know, special tickets. And I'm
12:51
thinking, why don't you have any
12:55
for me there? And they go, No,
12:55
I'm so sorry. Now you can tell.
13:02
I'm not the happiest person. It
13:02
is my freshman year, I'm really
13:06
getting aggravated. And I don't
13:06
know what to do about it. Well,
13:11
that's when I realized that the
13:11
more I told people about the
13:16
situation. And the more I told
13:16
the right people about the
13:21
situation, the more ideas a
13:21
gathering about what to do about
13:27
the situation, not about
13:27
complaining. It's about telling
13:31
people what the circumstances
13:31
are, what the conflict is, and
13:37
that you have a desire to change
13:37
this. And I'm thinking I have
13:42
done this before. This is not
13:42
the first time that a school or
13:46
institution of education has
13:46
given me problems. Like Okay,
13:53
I'll handle it. But I was angry. I'm going to
13:55
tell you that now, as a
13:58
freshman, I was . Well, lo and
13:58
behold, I go to my composition
14:07
writing course I think it's
14:07
called. And it's a freshman
14:10
course. And my professor Adrian
14:10
Peever. Goes ahead and tells the
14:16
class that we're going to do a
14:16
research paper. And you know
14:21
what, I hate research papers.
14:21
And I hate them because I hate
14:24
researching. I just don't like
14:24
looking through all that stuff.
14:29
To this day. I avoid anything
14:29
that had a lot of, you know,
14:32
forms to fill out and research.
14:32
Oh, I don't like it. When he
14:37
said that. I'm like, Okay, this
14:37
is gonna be fun. not fun at all.
14:43
And I didn't know what to do it
14:43
on. Because I was getting too
14:46
angry, having to deal with the
14:46
bathroom issue and all the other
14:51
issues that I was finding. I was
14:51
actually starting to get worried
14:55
about Should I drink water
14:55
should I not drink water? Then I
15:00
have to leave the classroom. And
15:00
then I have to go to the
15:02
bathroom. I've got to push all
15:02
the way to the Student Union,
15:07
because all the other buildings
15:07
were the same way with new
15:10
bathroom. So that was really on
15:10
my mind more than this research
15:15
paper. So I'm thinking, What am
15:15
I gonna do? Well, Professor
15:21
Peter said to me, You know, I,
15:21
you know, he told me he read the
15:27
article from the newspaper. And
15:27
I'm like, yeah, he said, you
15:34
know, that you can get the
15:34
blueprints for the entire
15:38
college. And I'm like, really?
15:38
Because, yeah. I said, How? So
15:44
he told me, you know, ask the
15:44
plantations on people like that.
15:48
And I go, Oh, okay. And then he
15:48
said, you can do your research
15:53
paper, on the laws regarding
15:53
this. And I'm thinking which law
16:01
like, I have absolutely no idea
16:01
which law he's talking about.
16:06
And he says, Go, research it,
16:06
okay. And he lives and you can
16:13
do your paper on that. And I'm
16:13
thinking, What? That is so
16:19
awesome. Because now, I'm going
16:19
to get a grade, the same time,
16:25
I'm going to find a way to
16:25
resolve the situation. I loved
16:29
it also felt happy And I said,
16:29
Yes. Great, fantastic. So here
16:35
we go. So I've got a doctor
16:35
flipsie, who should have answers
16:40
for me. And I've got a writing
16:40
professor who knows nothing
16:46
about the law, or my right. And
16:46
he told me "go for it". "Here
16:50
you go. I'm giving you an
16:50
opening, an opportunity to do
16:56
this". Amazing. The people that
16:56
enter your life when you need
17:01
them. I said, Okay, so went
17:01
ahead, and I found out about
17:06
section 504 of the
17:06
Rehabilitation Act, which states
17:11
that any institution whether
17:11
it's private, or public, if they
17:17
receive federal money, they must
17:17
make everything (back in the day
17:22
they said handicap) with
17:22
handicap accessible. Okay. And
17:27
I'm thinking, huh, University of
17:27
Miami's private, but they get
17:32
federal money. Well, we've got a
17:32
problem here, . And there was my
17:38
key, opening a door to get a
17:38
door so I may use the bathroom.
17:47
Like everyone else. It was
17:47
exhilarating. Because I was
17:53
empowered. I said, I'm taking
17:53
action. I'm doing this. Now, of
17:58
course, at the age of 18. I'm
17:58
not talking like that age 18.
18:01
I'm saying, Yes. I'm excited.
18:01
Now. Now they're gonna have to
18:08
give me that door. Yeah, but not
18:08
to give me that door. The way
18:12
that my high school had to put
18:12
ramps everywhere. The way that
18:17
my sixth grade elementary school
18:17
had to put me in the correct
18:20
classroom, Oh, my gosh, that all
18:20
I kept thinking, Why do I have
18:26
to fight for these things? Why
18:26
me? You know what? I don't know
18:33
either. Why me? And that's
18:33
something that we all struggle
18:38
with. When we're giving a major
18:38
challenge. We started saying Why
18:43
me? Now, story doesn't end. Although
18:45
the episode will soon. Because I
18:51
want you to think about a couple
18:51
of things. I want you to think
18:54
about how there's a status quo
18:54
at this major educational
19:00
institution. And how no one
19:00
before me was saying anything
19:05
about it. As a matter of fact,
19:05
I'm not gonna throw anybody
19:09
under the bus. But there was a
19:09
very famous spinal cord injury
19:17
person who was a student at the
19:17
University, and the person never
19:25
did anything to help the
19:25
University of Miami, become more
19:31
accessible. Now, that's for a
19:31
future episode. But I want you
19:36
to think why why did that person
19:36
who probably had more pull than
19:42
me do nothing? And why am I
19:42
struggling? Basically alone,
19:50
actually until there's a group
19:50
that I gather, and I find a
19:56
little team who actually feels
19:56
like me. For now, this is my
20:01
takeaway. My takeaway is that
20:01
all status quo can be broken.
20:08
And while Dr. flipsie was a
20:08
really nice guy, he wasn't doing
20:13
what I needed. For me. I don't
20:13
know why. I know that you meet
20:19
unlikely allies, like Professor
20:19
Peever, who come in at the right
20:24
time, and allow you to find the
20:24
answer. And they're willing to
20:31
help you in their own way.
20:31
Sometimes we want help from
20:36
people, but we want it in our
20:36
way, we have to realize that
20:39
sometimes we're going to get
20:39
help from people, but not the
20:44
way we think we're gonna get it.
20:44
Last thing that I want you to
20:48
think about for today, is that
20:48
this struggle that I'm going to
20:53
be telling you about isn't over.
20:53
There are still institutions all
21:00
over the country, and maybe
21:00
around the world. But I'm
21:04
speaking about the United States
21:04
of America, where we have
21:07
section table four of the
21:07
Rehabilitation Act, and the
21:12
Americans with Disability Act.
21:12
Yet still, there are students on
21:17
campuses, all over the country,
21:17
who have to fight for just the
21:23
idea of going to the bathroom.
21:23
This is today's episode, what
21:29
I'd like you to hear is, I would
21:29
like you to go to
21:33
Nathashaalvarez.com. and
21:33
download a free PDF of the five
21:41
actions that I take when I'm
21:41
going through major struggles in
21:46
life. And I'm going to see
21:46
whether you can spot that I have
21:50
done those things in the story
21:50
that I'm telling you now.
21:56
Remember, I'm doing this, to
21:56
leave something behind for my
22:00
nephew and my niece. And also to
22:00
make sure that there are other
22:05
people out there who understand
22:05
that they're not alone in the
22:10
struggles that they have.
22:10
understand. And I want to share
22:18
with you what I did to get it
22:18
done. So until next time, when
22:25
we continue this story, because
22:25
oh yeah, it's gonna get better.
22:31
And you're gonna hear how I
22:31
ticked off a bunch of people.
22:37
And you're gonna find out what I
22:37
did get done, what I didn't get
22:40
done. Because that's the way
22:40
life goes. In the meantime, go
22:47
to Natashaalvarez.com and make
22:47
sure that you are living your
22:52
life, one audacious moment at a
22:52
time. Talk to you soon.
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