After a history-making, ceiling-shattering weekend, Jaess has dedicated ATP to celebrating Black women.  Break out your passport...  You're headed to Berlin to have a conversation with the remarkably talented vocalist, instrumentalist, composer and arranger, Natalie Greffel.  They discuss her incredible, Afro-Brazilian-inspired, debut solo album, "Para Todos;"  the complexity and nuances of Black identity around the world; and navigating through the pandemic.

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