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Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Commentary of the Blood God

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Commentary of the Blood God

Released Monday, 27th November 2023
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Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Commentary of the Blood God

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Commentary of the Blood God

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Commentary of the Blood God

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - Commentary of the Blood God

Monday, 27th November 2023
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0:05

Hey,

0:07

it's your old pal Victor from the Edit Bay. You're

0:10

about to listen to a very special episode

0:12

of Acts of the Blood God. This is

0:14

our Final Fantasy The Spirits Within

0:17

Watch Along commentary track. Now,

0:19

you can watch this as a standalone episode

0:22

and it'll work just fine, but

0:25

if you want to listen to it the way the Blood God

0:28

intended, then watch along

0:30

with your 4K Blu-ray of The Spirits

0:34

Within that I know you all own.

0:37

If something has

0:38

you indisposed and it's not

0:40

on hand, which I understand,

0:42

I can empathize with, it'll work

0:45

with any version of the movie, whether you get it from

0:47

iTunes or YouTube

0:50

or

0:50

Apple TV or whatever.

0:53

It works with all of those. They're

0:55

all the same movie.

0:57

No compatibility issues here.

1:00

So if you want to skip ahead to the part where

1:02

we actually start the movie, we have a little

1:04

bit of preamble, but the movie itself

1:06

will start at 10

1:08

minutes and 8 seconds.

1:10

Or if you want to skip ahead to our final thoughts,

1:13

you can head to 1 hour 48

1:14

minutes 17 seconds.

1:18

But if you want to watch along with us,

1:20

which I highly recommend, go ahead

1:22

and pause your version of the movie

1:25

on the Columbia Pictures title

1:27

card right around the time that the word

1:30

Columbia appears. Then

1:32

later on in the episode, Kat is going

1:35

to tell you exactly when you can

1:37

push play and it should all sync

1:39

up just fine like magic. So

1:42

enjoy this episode of Acts of the Blood God,

1:45

enjoy Final Fantasy The

1:47

Spirits Within,

1:49

and we'll see you on the other side.

2:09

Welcome to a special watch-along of the

2:11

Blog God. I am your host, Kat

2:13

Bailey. Joining me is Nadia

2:16

Oxford.

2:17

Hello Kat. Very happy to be here on

2:19

this watch-along. I'm just kind of staring at

2:21

the Columbia chick, like that kind of opens up the movie

2:23

and it's like, yeah, she's got it going on, doesn't she?

2:25

Eric Van Allen. You

2:28

know, I never really thought about the Columbia

2:30

light woman at this

2:32

point, but yeah, yeah. All

2:35

right. Yeah. I think it's supposed

2:37

to be bad either. Okay, hold on now.

2:39

And our pal and

2:42

producer, Victor Hunter. Hey,

2:45

it's your old pal from the edit bay, Victor.

2:48

This week we'll be watching Final Fantasy

2:50

Spirits Within, the

2:53

classic of CGI that

2:55

completely scuttled square pictures. Does

2:57

it hold up? I guess we'll find

2:59

out. We'll be telling you just a

3:01

second how to get

3:04

to the beginning of this episode. We're going

3:06

to watch Final Fantasy, The Spirits

3:08

Within together. We're currently with the

3:11

stars of Destiny. We'll be providing

3:13

our

3:13

commentary. At least

3:15

a couple of us, I think, are going in

3:17

fresh. I personally have not

3:19

watched this movie since

3:22

it came out in the year 2001.

3:25

Pretty amazing.

3:28

Victor,

3:30

as someone who is very enthusiastic to

3:32

be on this show, what is your history with

3:34

Final Fantasy, The Spirits Within?

3:37

Well, I

3:40

think everyone knows that I'm

3:42

a pretty big Final Fantasy guy.

3:46

This,

3:48

however, has

3:49

eluded me completely until

3:53

I watched it

3:55

four times last week. No

3:58

kidding. Four times.

3:59

Who is torturing you? Give us their name.

4:01

Uh,

4:04

I,

4:05

I don't want to give away too

4:07

much. Um, but there's some commentary

4:10

tracks on the 4k Blu-ray and

4:13

I found them compelling.

4:15

Ah, I,

4:18

uh, yeah, I'm, you know, I, I

4:21

have a, uh,

4:22

I have a predilection towards final

4:24

fantasy stuff, especially

4:28

as it branches out into other mediums.

4:31

I always find that interesting. Um,

4:35

and, uh,

4:36

yeah, I, um,

4:38

I'm,

4:39

I'm amazed that it took me this long to

4:41

finally watch it, but I'm glad

4:43

I did. Um, and

4:46

I'll share what I actually think about

4:48

the movie, uh, during, during

4:50

the stream.

4:51

Excellent. Fair enough. Nadia,

4:55

have you ever seen this movie?

4:57

No, I have not. No way. How

4:59

did you miss this one?

5:01

It was because I was so delusion

5:03

by it, by the time it came out and probably delusional

5:06

with final fantasy as well, that I was just like,

5:08

uh, I don't care. Here's the thing. I have

5:10

a fun story about this. Um,

5:13

I had a friend, I have a friend who went

5:15

to Sheridan college in Ontario, which apparently

5:18

sent over or a bunch of graduates

5:20

went to go animate this movie over in Hawaii and

5:23

apparently their behavior was so bad that

5:26

they swore they would never hire

5:27

college ever again. This

5:31

is just a rumor. I have no idea if it's true.

5:32

It really sounds like it could absolutely be true. Like Canadians,

5:35

I guess when they kind of pop, they really pop off, but,

5:37

uh, yeah, there's that. And also,

5:40

I think what kind of got me was

5:42

this movie took so long to come

5:44

out that by the time the CG, we

5:46

saw the CG for ourselves, it was not

5:50

novel anymore. Like do

5:52

any of you remember like the old Starship troopers

5:55

animated, CD animated cartoon?

5:57

My part.

5:59

That was a.

5:59

Really really good-looking CG cartoon

6:02

and when I saw that I was like, okay Like

6:04

we're already as good as the movie practically

6:07

So I know when

6:09

I saw the reviews and I said it kind of sucked and

6:11

it's like oh people are telling me It's really

6:13

not found a fantasy and I said I just

6:15

skip it for now. I was married and poor so Didn't

6:18

have the money anyway

6:20

And Eric this movie came out before you were born

6:23

Wait, no, no it didn't

6:25

I I Was

6:28

alive I just didn't see it Fair

6:31

enough. Well as I met so I guess

6:34

I'm

6:34

I'm the one who in some ways Saw

6:38

this one when it first came out because I was

6:40

that much of a Final Fantasy fan I was

6:43

I swept up in the hype for Final

6:45

Fantasy

6:45

the spirits within I thought

6:47

square could do no wrong I saw that really

6:50

cool CGI Teaser

6:52

and

6:52

I thought this movie

6:54

is gonna be Groundbreaking because

6:56

we had seen of course CG movies

6:59

by that time Toy Story come out in

7:01

the year 1995 and Pixar

7:03

was

7:04

fully underway by that point

7:06

But we hadn't seen it on the

7:08

level that square could do and

7:10

as we all saw in Final Fantasy 8 Square

7:14

was the master of CG or so

7:16

I thought

7:17

at the time of course we all know what happened

7:20

to Final Fantasy the spirits

7:22

within it was made on

7:24

a budget of 137 million

7:28

dollars and it ended up bringing in a

7:30

about about 85 million

7:33

dollars, which is not a lot

7:35

of money and it

7:38

was genuinely generally panned and

7:41

It killed square pictures

7:43

and arguably hastened the

7:45

merger between square and square Enix

7:47

a Little bit of

7:50

info for you. It came out

7:51

on July 2nd 2001 here

7:55

is the on IMDB

7:57

is described as a scientist makes

7:59

a lab stand on earth

8:01

the help of a ragtag team of

8:03

soldiers against an invasion of alien

8:05

phantoms. If that's not

8:08

Final Fantasy I don't know what is. Some

8:12

interesting absences

8:15

in this one.

8:15

Hiranobu sorry Nobuo Uematsu

8:18

did not do the music.

8:21

Instead we had

8:23

music by Elliot Goldenthal

8:26

much to the it was a bit of a

8:28

controversial decision shall

8:30

we say because of course Uematsu is the

8:33

musician that the voice

8:35

of Final Fantasy in some ways.

8:38

I think that

8:39

one

8:39

reason we're actually starting to see

8:42

good game movies is because directors

8:45

or game makers are realizing

8:47

hey maybe

8:48

I don't have to be a movie director maybe I can

8:51

be a video

8:51

game director you know I mean like it

8:54

just in this day and age I can't

8:57

see well I can see when when

8:59

one music being chosen or another like we have the Mario

9:02

movie you don't happen there but yeah

9:05

just that kind of decision in this day and

9:07

age like taking out Uematsu for a more

9:10

authentic quote-unquote

9:11

musician would be met with

9:13

a lot of anger not just like mixed results.

9:16

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9:28

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9:30

and the Queen of the Hedgehogs almost

9:33

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9:35

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10:17

It stars Ming-Na Wen,

10:19

Alec Baldwin, James Woods,

10:22

Donald Sutherland, and Steve Buscemi. Hell

10:27

yeah. Hell yeah. Hell

10:29

yeah. How do you do, fellow Spirits? And

10:32

all StarCats. How do you do, fellow

10:34

Final Fantasy fans? Amazing.

10:38

Alright, so we are going

10:41

to start at the

10:43

10-second mark. We're watching on

10:45

the Prime video version of

10:47

Final Fantasy Spirits Within.

10:49

You should be seeing the lady

10:53

who's standing with the holding up the

10:56

thing. You should see her. We're at the 10-second

10:58

mark right now.

10:59

And

11:01

so I'm going to count down. And

11:05

when you're ready, we're going to press

11:07

play. So, three, two,

11:10

one, go.

11:16

Okay,

11:18

so

11:21

I like this movie. Spoiler

11:26

alert. That is a good square, I have to admit.

11:28

Nice square. Let's vote

11:29

on that. Ten out of ten. Square

11:33

pictures. They have a good future in front of them.

11:38

Well, I mean, you must really like this movie if you've watched

11:40

it four times. There's

11:43

a lot of things I've done four times that I don't

11:45

necessarily love, but I

11:51

think it's perfectly competent in

11:54

a lot of ways. And

11:57

just as like a... as

12:01

a trailblazer of some

12:03

CG techniques, I think it's really

12:05

interesting. That's fair, yeah. I think it's

12:08

more Final Fantasy than

12:10

people were willing to give it credit for

12:12

at the time and... Oh, very much so.

12:15

Hironobu Sakaguchi. Oh, there's that eye. There's

12:17

the eye. That's a million dollars. Wow. There

12:21

it is. The

12:21

eye. Do we have subtitles on?

12:24

Do you want subtitles?

12:25

Probably should have them on. I can't hear as

12:28

well as I can see.

12:30

There we are.

12:32

Technology.

12:35

Worrying noise. Worrying noise. Now

12:38

we're talking. So

12:42

something that really struck me

12:45

the first time, and

12:48

I couldn't tell if it was because

12:52

I was just like... By

12:54

the end of the movie, I was just sort of in

12:56

it, but it feels

12:59

like it gets...

13:02

The CG gets better as it's

13:04

going on. It becomes a little less

13:07

jarring, and

13:09

watching one of the commentaries, it's because

13:12

they basically did it in

13:14

sequence, which is

13:16

wild. Like this shot we're about to

13:18

see is one of the very first things

13:20

they did. This was in production for

13:23

four years. That's

13:25

four years in late 90s, early 2000s time. So

13:29

the technology they were using by the time

13:31

they were at the end of the movie would

13:34

have

13:37

advanced so much.

13:40

You could see the... First

13:43

of all, yeah, no. CG technology

13:46

was increasing exponentially. But

13:49

also this still looks like a PS2

13:52

CG, maybe something that you would see in Xenoblade.

13:56

Xeno Saga.

13:57

Hey, it's your old pal Victor from the present

13:59

day. We had some technical

14:01

difficulties to sort out, so we have a few

14:03

seconds where there's not much going

14:05

on talking wise. So I'm just going to fill it in

14:07

with my own commentary after the fact. We're

14:11

going to see a Pepsi ad in a little

14:13

bit. And here's a visual gaffe

14:16

for y'all.

14:18

They put, it

14:19

looks like some normal mapping on the actual

14:22

ad so that like the Pepsi

14:24

logo casts a shadow. But

14:27

it shouldn't because the ad should be split.

14:29

So

14:34

put that in your

14:35

CinemaSins counter, you

14:37

nerd. I'll pop in

14:40

again a little later, but

14:43

that's it from me, present day Victor.

14:46

Bye, I love you.

14:49

Wow, old New York City. Old New York.

14:53

Something to think of a song. Even

14:55

old New York

14:57

was once a few minutes to answer them. Why

14:59

they changed it, I can say. People just liked

15:01

it better that way.

15:10

I think I just didn't want to file a fantasy with spaceships.

15:13

Yeah, it was a little weird with the sci-fi

15:16

and everything. Plenty

15:18

of Final Fantasy has spaceships. Yeah, you know.

15:21

Four has spaceships. No, they've always had spaceships. But

15:24

it was never overtly sci-fi in the same

15:26

way. Yes.

15:30

This is like a Gears of War movie. Yeah.

15:33

Yeah, they... It's

15:38

not a Gears of War movie until I see a

15:40

giant hunk of like meat

15:42

and just roadie running across the screen.

15:44

You're about to. Oh,

15:47

hell yeah. Here comes Barry. Some beefy

15:49

boys. Was that Seiko Watch

15:52

ad in movie advertisement? Probably.

15:55

At least it's not Colvin. Oh, there it is. Seiko

15:57

Watch.

15:58

in Times

16:00

Square has the most product

16:03

placement?

16:04

Well, it does make sense. You're gonna have it somewhere.

16:06

It's the place to have

16:07

it. Yeah. Wow. The CG

16:09

in this movie is just incredible.

16:12

I remember a lot of people complained about Uncanny

16:14

Valley, and that was definitely a problem at the time.

16:17

Victor from the present one more time, just gonna

16:19

sneak in here. We talk later

16:21

in this episode about the Hollywood

16:24

versus Final Fantasy identity

16:26

thing, and I think this movie

16:29

is really the logical endpoint

16:32

of Sakaguchi's synthesis

16:35

of Western and Eastern.

16:37

I mean, Final Fantasy 1 is so Dungeons

16:40

and Dragons and Wizardry and Ultima-inspired,

16:43

and FF11, around this same time,

16:46

he was trying to release

16:48

it in all territories at the same time.

16:50

He was using auto-translate features

16:53

that people around the world could play together.

16:56

The theme song is sung in Esperanto.

16:58

This really just does

17:00

feel like the movie

17:03

extension of his game design philosophy,

17:05

and I think if he had made another movie, it

17:08

probably would have been more fantasy forward than

17:10

this one is sci-fi forward. Okay, that's

17:12

it from me. Bye. So there was a reason that

17:14

Pixar didn't

17:16

go

17:18

with

17:19

CG characters, like

17:21

CG humans too

17:22

much. Yeah. That's because

17:25

they just looked too weird in CG. That's

17:27

why they went with toys and bugs and

17:29

monsters and everything.

17:31

The toys looked good, yeah. That's

17:34

what early CG was good at.

17:36

Oh, good, no textures.

17:38

I think

17:41

part of it was just that

17:43

MoCap just wasn't quite

17:45

good enough. Yeah. Like, you'll

17:47

see just about everything

17:49

in

17:50

this is a combination

17:53

of MoCap and

17:56

then them hand animating

17:59

everything that did.

17:59

didn't get picked up properly. So

18:02

like, like,

18:06

um,

18:07

the, all of their like individual

18:09

finger movements are all hand animated

18:11

because you just didn't have the fidelity

18:14

in, in the app at the time. So they'd

18:16

get, they'd get broad gestures

18:18

and broad movements and, and like the basis

18:21

of the blocking, but then they

18:24

ended up having to go in and do

18:26

everything individually frame by frame anyway.

18:29

So it was just, I think it's just

18:31

time consuming. Just technology

18:33

wasn't quite caught up to where they

18:36

needed it to be.

18:37

Yeah. They were really into that. Hell

18:39

yeah. Here we go.

18:42

Why, why are they landing in flubber? Okay.

18:46

I mean, this is,

18:48

this is the proto, the final fantasy 13

18:52

lightning does basically the same thing,

18:54

but with like her like gravity

18:58

snap thing, uh, uses

19:01

it in the intro to 13 and then never

19:03

again. Um, but I

19:05

love that. That's that feels like

19:08

such a good little.

19:10

And finally, a movie

19:12

that was a game that was released in 2010 looks so much better

19:16

than this movie. Oh, totally.

19:18

Like the gameplay looks way better than this movie.

19:23

I think the soldiers in this game have a, I don't

19:25

know if they used a model like this for

19:27

FF 14 and the dead ends sure looks

19:29

like the citizens. Um, it,

19:32

so all these suits, the,

19:34

were designed by, Ooh,

19:37

guy named, uh, something Sayama,

19:40

who was like a mechanical designer

19:42

for, uh, Eska Flownay

19:45

and designed a lot of the ships and tech

19:48

in cowboy bebop. And

19:51

like, like a

19:53

lot of, a lot of the design and storyboard

19:56

stuff was from anime

19:58

studios. Whereas

20:01

then the

20:02

actual animation itself was

20:05

done in Honolulu. Oh, I'm dead. Sorry. Wasn't

20:09

the statue. Yeah,

20:11

it's interesting. I mean, I know

20:13

that Square Pictures was based in Hawaii, but

20:16

it's interesting how much Hollywood

20:19

was involved versus the Japanese anime

20:22

movie industry. They

20:25

were doing CG and stuff then too, so. Yeah,

20:32

bad CG. I

20:35

mean, yes, they were doing absolutely atrocious

20:37

CG. Anime, the CG was

20:39

pretty awful. It's

20:41

not like America was doing better CG. I mean,

20:43

whatever.

20:45

It was definitely an era of

20:48

growing pains. They got a mile.

20:50

That fact they took a step or tried to anyway.

20:53

We had

20:55

Beast Wars. We had reboot.

20:59

I mean, Canada was making some pretty

21:01

choice stuff.

21:02

Beasties. Beasties. We can't say war

21:05

on air. Sorry, yes. We

21:07

can have a violent season

21:09

of reboot, but season

21:11

three and four, but we can't say war on Canadian television.

21:15

So I want

21:17

to say that we've had like

21:19

three nice little – there's

21:23

three things that stand out to me in this intro.

21:25

One is

21:26

like when she first fires the flare gun

21:29

that drops the particles that

21:33

then reveal the locations of

21:35

the phantoms if they come in contact with the particles.

21:38

I think that's cool. I think that's

21:40

a real like solid sci-fi

21:42

concept.

21:43

There's some people asking the chat if they could

21:45

turn it up the volume a bit. Is that possible without

21:47

making

21:49

it confusing? To do what?

21:51

To turn up the volume.

21:54

How's that?

21:56

Pretty good.

21:57

Makes it really loud on my end to where it's

21:59

hard for me to hear.

21:59

I hear you often. Oh,

22:01

I see. Right. You can turn

22:03

down the...

22:05

I'm doing some stuff on my end.

22:06

Yeah.

22:08

Okay. We're

22:10

doing this technology for the first time.

22:13

Much like square pictures. Go find for your own. Yes,

22:16

exactly. This is a pioneering technological

22:18

endeavor. We're learning on the fly much like square pictures.

22:23

I feel like this is pre-staging what Xbox 360

22:26

games would look like.

22:28

These are like the guys from Metroid,

22:31

the Metroid other M. Remember, Ruth?

22:33

I mean, I think

22:36

these suits especially really do

22:38

feel like Cycom officer

22:41

outfits in 13. Even some

22:44

of the guys in 8, like the

22:46

armored...

22:47

Also reminds me of Fallout.

22:50

Yeah. The iconic guards

22:52

in that, but a little slimmer.

22:55

This definitely does seem like a game that we'd be

22:57

playing in 2007. That's like a third person

22:59

shooter. Yeah,

23:01

totally. Everyone would forget about...

23:04

You'd see it now on YouTube, but like forgotten

23:06

games. It's like, oh, here's this game from

23:08

Squaresoft that nobody played. There

23:09

he is, Alec Baldwin.

23:12

How

23:15

you doing, dude? My dad saw him on the

23:17

street once in Toronto. He's just like, are you going to look

23:19

Alec Baldwin? He's like, yeah. And

23:22

he's like, oh, cool. Hi.

23:23

He's in a CG

23:24

voice movie, so presumably he won't

23:26

be able to accidentally shoot anybody. I'm

23:28

going to find a way. On

23:32

that subject, one of the things I like

23:35

about this setup... On that subject. In that

23:37

opening is the fact

23:39

that they come to save her, and

23:42

one of the first things they do is try

23:44

to shoot at ghosts, and

23:46

it

23:47

goes through them. Like you do. And

23:50

it shows how your

23:53

impulse is to shoot at it and

23:56

not remember that there's stuff behind

23:58

it. Flammable tanks by me. Yeah,

24:02

I mean that comes up a bunch, but I

24:04

like that that that's just

24:06

that's a that's a practicality of this world

24:09

that that's just something you have to consider

24:11

is that when you shoot shoot the bad guys you're

24:13

also going to hit the thing that's behind them. Make

24:16

the girl

24:17

is this death stranding.

24:19

We call

24:20

it Gears of War calling death Stranding calling

24:22

it everything the final fantasy.

24:25

It's like the same thing as death stranding though.

24:27

You've got like these kind of invisible ghost

24:29

enemies and everybody's living in little barriers

24:32

that keep them safe from them except for the

24:34

people that go on excursions out in there.

24:37

Yeah, man. And now we're going to Mega Man

24:39

X2. Oh,

24:43

this is a reener is really small. Actually, the

24:45

athletes. All right.

24:51

Hey, fuck you, man. I

24:53

also I also wonder if there

24:55

was because

24:57

they have the Pepsi product placement and

24:59

they had. Pepsi Pepsi before

25:02

with FF7, but

25:05

we all remember FF9, which

25:08

came out around the same time as this was

25:10

a Coca-Cola joint.

25:14

I don't remember that in Japan

25:15

or here. Well,

25:17

in Japan, but there was there was a big

25:20

lavish CG Final

25:22

Fantasy 9 Coca-Cola commercial that

25:25

used the FMVs where

25:28

everyone's celebrating and drinking Coke.

25:30

Like you do. That

25:33

guy's going to turn into a monster soon.

25:36

Wait, cool. That's how that works. I

25:38

assume.

25:42

Someone had something inside them. They

25:45

did that doodly doodly scan thing and it's like, oh,

25:48

no, it's red instead of green. So therefore,

25:50

problem.

25:52

Wait, there's

25:54

ghosts. I feel like I'm not grasping

25:56

the basic story. There's ghosts and

25:59

the ghosts.

25:59

ghosts have made it scary to live in the

26:02

rest of the world, but the ghosts can also

26:04

zombie you is what's happening? Yeah,

26:07

so the aliens,

26:10

aliens arrived on a comet

26:12

and they cannot fight

26:14

them because they sort

26:18

of are on another plane.

26:21

They're spooky ghosts, aliens

26:25

invading Earth and when they touch you,

26:27

it is a little bit

26:29

of a virus that influences your... It's

26:35

kind

26:35

of like Genova really.

26:38

Well, yes. It's

26:41

very Final Fantasy you might say.

26:46

Sounds like the other people in the saga. They

26:48

really were into the concept of

26:51

the thing coming down from space

26:53

and messing everybody up. Yeah. Even

26:56

Final Fantasy VIII had the sorceresses

26:59

who

27:01

lived in space.

27:02

They were just an obsession with that. Even

27:05

Mega Man X had like, oh, here comes a comet going to crash

27:08

into the Earth. I think it was like Armageddon and

27:10

Deep Impact were really big around that time.

27:12

You might not be wrong, honestly.

27:15

Everyone was really big into things slamming into

27:17

Earth for a while.

27:19

And I don't want to miss a thing.

27:24

Oh, they saved him or something.

27:25

So they shot it with a

27:27

laser that does not pierce skin

27:30

but can fry ghosts. Part

27:35

of what we're going to learn is that,

27:38

Cid, and they really

27:40

gloss over this,

27:42

after the alien invasion, this brilliant

27:45

scientist discovered, what's

27:47

it called, bioetherial energy.

27:51

Basically,

27:52

we all discovered that the

27:58

human spirit is...

27:59

energy and can be harnessed.

28:03

They don't really explain how or

28:05

why or what the

28:07

ramifications

28:09

were.

28:10

I'm actually trying to spell this as

28:12

a normie. It's like so RPG. It's like, okay, yeah, spirit, energy, whatever,

28:14

that's standard. I can just picture my father

28:16

watching this saying, what the fuck? Just being

28:19

angry at it.

28:21

But I mean, it is

28:23

Sakaguchi through and through. It

28:25

is

28:26

truly... We're going to

28:28

see a lot of a

28:31

lot of life stream parallels.

28:34

It's

28:35

a Sid.

28:36

We can't use the S word. We can't say Sid. That

28:39

is our Donald Sutherland Sid.

28:41

I think probably giving

28:44

the best performance in the movie.

28:47

I think he does a great job.

28:52

Where does he sit on the Sid pantheon?

28:57

It seems related to Kiefer Sutherland. I

29:00

forget. I don't know celebrities.

29:03

I don't know all the Sutherland's in Hollywood. I'm sorry.

29:05

It's like being able

29:07

to identify all the bald ones.

29:10

I think we owe our healthcare system to

29:12

a Sutherland. I'm

29:14

serious. I

29:16

could be wrong, Victor would know maybe because he's smarter

29:19

than me.

29:20

He is the father of

29:22

Kiefer Sutherland. That's right. The

29:25

father?

29:26

He campaigned for healthcare in Canada.

29:32

Sarden says this is the first thing

29:34

that with Steve Buscemi they ever

29:36

saw.

29:37

I can't remember the first thing I ever

29:39

saw with Steve Buscemi that I'm thinking about it.

29:40

Reservoir dogs, baby. Reservoir

29:43

dogs? That's a good maybe.

29:46

I

29:46

think there was something before that. He wasn't

29:48

in Problem Child, was he? No,

29:50

that was Kramer. God, that was a good movie.

29:54

Smoke. So they're giving us critical background

29:57

information about the spirits?

29:59

Yes, it's in a book.

30:03

This is where Sid

30:06

sort of explains, he has,

30:08

not only did he discover this bio-aetheric

30:11

energy, but he also has like

30:13

a holistic theory about

30:16

the nature of the universe and how

30:19

also the planet itself

30:22

has a similar energy. So

30:25

a light stream. Yes. Despite

30:29

the fact that the world as a whole

30:31

has completely adopted bio-aetherial

30:33

energy as a concept, they refuse

30:36

to acknowledge his theory that the

30:38

Earth is the same.

30:42

See, they could have just done like Final

30:44

Fantasy VII and had the, I don't know,

30:46

Final Fantasy VII knows it's ridiculous. This

30:49

is trying to take itself seriously.

30:52

I think Sakaguchi is always

30:55

kind of taking himself seriously. And

30:58

as a companion piece to Advent

31:00

Children, I think this movie is really interesting

31:03

too. Like they are doing

31:06

wildly different things and

31:09

some things that are exactly

31:11

the same.

31:12

Her legs are really long. I thought that was Ultraman

31:15

for a second.

31:15

I want that in.

31:21

Ultrampede.

31:23

What is that? When I was watching

31:26

this movie back in 2001, Nadia, I

31:28

mean, I agreed with you. I wanted them to adopt

31:30

Final Fantasy VII. Why

31:32

do they all look like Quagmire

31:34

after he discovers the internet has porn

31:36

on it? A right arm is a monstrous

31:39

construct. A

31:41

huge gigantic arm.

31:46

And yeah, Sakaguchi always did kind of play

31:48

that stuff straight, but something about seeing

31:51

the clouds, the spiky hair and the livestreams

31:53

forming Shinra at the end of it all.

31:56

Just there's a playfulness to it and well,

31:59

definitely. but ended whether everyone survived or not until

32:02

Advent children answered the question

32:03

for us.

32:05

I think the theory is that the reason

32:07

they didn't adopt Final Fantasy is that

32:09

there was a feeling that video

32:11

games weren't as good as movies. Exactly.

32:13

No, that's exactly what it was. Yeah,

32:15

this is pursuing a Hollywood

32:19

feel that wouldn't mesh.

32:24

They do, however, have a Zeus cannon, which

32:26

is basically the Joonan cannon, I guess. Yeah.

32:31

Also, this guy's named Dr. Sid with an S,

32:33

so he's clearly not a canonical Sid. He's

32:36

a bastard, Sid. The Dark Universe Sid. We're

32:40

also an uncanny valley Sid,

32:43

much like this is an uncanny valley movie.

32:46

Set of darkness hanging

32:48

out in Shadowbringers.

32:50

Physical attacks have no effect, but emotional

32:52

attacks on the comet, devastating.

32:56

Dude, you're bald. So can you say it?

32:59

Lose those 50 hit points. There's a lot of

33:01

square jaws and white men in this

33:04

room. I

33:06

mean, we were. There are some

33:08

people who are not late here. In this scene,

33:10

we are introduced to Keith David's

33:12

character, Yay, and James

33:15

Woods's character, Boo. Yeah, Keith David.

33:17

He's like, he's

33:19

around even in regular Final Fantasy games, isn't

33:22

he? Like he's done chaos into Sidious, I'm

33:24

thinking

33:24

of. Chaos into Sidious. I can't

33:26

think off the top of my head another

33:29

actor who has been two different

33:32

Final Fantasy characters.

33:35

He also does the narration for, there

33:37

was a WWE documentary I watched that

33:40

he narrated. It's very

33:42

distinct voice. I always liked it. It's very soothing.

33:44

There

33:44

he is, Keith David.

33:47

And we're also about to

33:49

see a Blinken, you'll miss it,

33:52

Sakaguchi cameo.

33:54

Why do you

33:56

look like Jack Nicholson?

33:59

is sitting on the far right

34:02

of the like council

34:04

table. I think

34:06

we'll see him right here.

34:11

There he is in the far back.

34:13

Oh there he is. This

34:16

guy thinks the planet is a soul, dumbass.

34:20

Stupid idea.

34:24

Mr. Hazan, why are you

34:26

married to Mrs. Hazan? Why?

34:30

He's Jack Nicholson, why? I'm going

34:32

crazy. He's got the evil, he's

34:35

got the bad guy eyebrow. Jack is going to say

34:37

no, he's a bad guy. He's got the glove too. It's

34:39

yeah, black gloves, trench coat.

34:41

I think he seems very trustworthy.

34:45

It's comical how stereotypically

34:50

evil they make him look. He's

34:52

not like shooting the planet. They don't need

34:55

to because he's got like,

34:57

I don't know, he's, I

34:59

think he's kind of justified

35:02

in a lot of whatever.

35:07

The villain was right all

35:09

along. Oh boy, Splatoon.

35:16

Oh now they ruined the game.

35:21

Boy, they're spending a lot of time debating this.

35:24

Well, it's all easier to animate it. I

35:26

guess so. People standing still.

35:31

You know what I love

35:32

in movies? I

35:34

really love debates

35:36

in front of consoles. Those are my favorite. Yeah,

35:40

that was the best part of the Star Wars prequels like that

35:42

just like blew my mind.

35:44

This guy's forehead is huge. I

35:50

like that.

35:50

I like that. I like that. I like that.

35:52

Next on the console agenda, the

35:54

taxation of trade routes. Democracy

35:58

dies in the darkness.

36:08

This is the most Where's My Paycheck room that's ever

36:11

been animated.

36:13

All right, we're going to have a 400- I

36:16

know. They

36:17

came up with the whole celebrity

36:20

cast before the celebrity cast

36:22

for a thing, really. Yeah.

36:24

And before the celebrity cast knew what the hell the video game was.

36:27

Was this the same year

36:28

that Shrek came out?

36:29

It is, yeah.

36:31

That looks like Shrek stuff that's in that globe.

36:35

Somebody could look like Shrek Swamp, who cares?

36:39

I mean, really? Shrek

36:42

is more cartoony, but it looks better than

36:44

this.

36:45

Shrek looks great.

36:46

Still looks pretty good. I mean, it looks all right.

36:48

You're watching without a problem. Yeah. The

36:50

way that the characters move are almost like marionettes,

36:53

but- Yeah. I think when

36:55

it comes to the human characters in Shrek

36:58

versus this, I think this holds

37:00

up a little better, but obviously, just

37:03

the direction of Shrek lends

37:06

itself a little better to this era

37:08

of tech. Yeah.

37:10

Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice

37:12

I'm willing to make. She's

37:14

got a ghost goop inside her. She's got

37:17

a ghost goop inside her. As we all do. Okay.

37:19

There's damn incubi up to their shenanigans.

37:21

I do like the industrial

37:24

design in this

37:25

movie.

37:28

That does look cool.

37:29

Absolutely.

37:31

You can tell that they really thought a lot about

37:33

it. Is this where the anime, it's like

37:35

storyboarding and everything comes into play?

37:37

Yeah.

37:38

Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

37:40

there's also the fact that yes, this was mostly a Western

37:43

movie, but definitely Japan

37:45

had a huge hand in it as well. I think back then, we

37:47

weren't really as open to Eastern

37:50

movies and their style

37:52

of directing is a little slower, a little more purposeful.

37:56

Some people still don't like it. I like it very much.

37:59

I have like an hour and a half of it.

38:02

I start to get a little tired I think that

38:04

the the industrial design definitely

38:07

leans heavily into the anime

38:09

like I see you where a lot of it goes

38:11

in the shell in the lake totally. Yeah,

38:13

especially everything. Yeah Even

38:16

even the concept of this city that

38:18

is protected by the barrier You

38:22

know that that is that just feels

38:25

Anime as hell That's

38:28

how all the enemies and RPGs

38:30

start you're behind the wall why you'll

38:32

find out. Yeah, I

38:35

Keep harping on this point, but

38:38

this reminds final fantasy. Oh, God

38:40

within that line delivery. I'm sorry

38:45

Maury baby is Possibly

38:47

the worst performance in this film.

38:50

It's it's just

38:52

dismal. He gets the worst lines. Absolutely

38:54

awful You

39:03

All these people seem like delightful

39:06

folks that I would want to hang out with I'm

39:13

sorry

39:15

Another fighting marriage

39:17

is over. She's taking the dog.

39:19

I

39:21

Was gonna say the ghosts the

39:25

ghost dogs You

39:29

can have the ghost dog on weekends

39:39

Even this like

39:40

Jack black or blackjack or other the

39:43

manga. We have scalpel inside of him. Oh,

39:46

yeah

39:51

Yeah, there are some

39:53

some parts of Mino

39:56

and performance that I think are

39:58

are fantastic

39:59

And then

40:02

some bits that really just kind of fall flat,

40:05

which is too bad because I

40:08

think she's great. So the world is devoid

40:10

of life, but it slowly seems to be coming back

40:12

or –

40:14

I'm not sure. It's

40:17

trying to in some places,

40:19

yeah.

40:23

So it's like the world is damaged and

40:25

it's trying to heal itself. But again, FS7, is

40:27

that kind of what I'm getting

40:29

here?

40:30

Yeah. Togaya.

40:36

I'm guessing dead people, spirit energy

40:38

heals the planet. When I was

40:40

watching this, I definitely got the sense

40:43

of – the life stream

40:45

aspect of it definitely stood out to me. Yeah.

40:49

And just the – we

40:51

have to collect eight spirit –

40:56

we have to collect the eight spirits that have the frequency

40:59

that resonate that we can use to neutralize

41:01

the threat.

41:03

That's a very video game plot, isn't it? Very.

41:06

It really

41:09

is. In the late 2000s, there

41:12

was a phenomenon in which Japanese developers

41:15

would try and

41:17

westernize their various

41:19

franchises. For example,

41:22

Bionic Commando is a good example. Devil

41:26

May Cry. And Final Fantasy

41:29

Spirits was in with the Trailblazer in that way. No

41:33

bad CGI kiss. He hates to see it. Oh,

41:36

don't you worry. I'm not even better than

41:39

Baldur's Gate, my dragonborn, trying to kiss anybody.

41:42

It looks like he's eating their head. I

41:45

mean, Togaya, that

41:47

is the way. Apparently. There

41:51

could only be one way with your character. Fair.

41:57

Rawr, rawr.

41:59

You can set your watch too.

42:01

Keeping with the Xbox 360

42:04

comparisons, this movie is very brown.

42:07

It is. I've noticed. Yeah, quite. Which

42:10

is probably, I would imagine animating

42:12

colors would be a little more difficult back then. Or

42:16

consume a lot more memory. Well,

42:18

I think,

42:19

here's my thought. If

42:22

you re-rendered this movie,

42:25

but with

42:28

ambient occlusion and better

42:30

particle effects, you

42:33

don't even need to do anything to the models

42:36

necessarily, but lighting

42:38

and special effects that

42:41

have

42:42

had the developments that

42:45

they've had in the last 22 years.

42:48

I think this

42:50

movie would hold up visually

42:53

a lot better. Yeah, I think

42:55

you're right. Because, you know,

42:58

shadows are very flat.

43:00

I think it

43:04

just wasn't there. It just wasn't there at the

43:06

time. Also, all of the characters

43:08

outside of Aki Ross look like basically

43:11

male Shepard from Mass Effect 1. Thank

43:14

you. I was noticing. I can only tell apart

43:16

from their eyebrows. The

43:18

evil one has the mean eyebrows, and the nice one

43:20

has the square eyebrows. The thing I really

43:23

appreciated in that last scene was they're in the middle

43:25

of an alien apocalypse that

43:27

is destroying the Earth. But that dude

43:30

kept his college diploma and framed

43:32

it and brought it with him so he could hang

43:34

it on the wall in his office. Love that. It's

43:37

also next to the statue

43:39

he has of his world-ending cannon

43:42

that he keeps on his desk. He seems on

43:44

the floor. He's got a replica of

43:46

his weapon of mass destruction. I

43:50

got this diploma from the University of American

43:52

Samoa. Go, land crabs. And

43:54

I will support them until the end of time.

43:57

This is where I learned my science.

43:59

are fighting.

44:02

Back then they kind of animated boobs

44:03

like as separate kind of like

44:06

apartments whereas just let's

44:08

be mono boob. There's a

44:11

big thing about that and

44:13

reboot like in America they wouldn't let the

44:16

like mainframe show dots like

44:18

individual boobs like they are on what's her face

44:20

here but so that's why she had

44:22

to have the mono boob as it's called.

44:24

Yeah and all the aliens have

44:26

terrible posture but then but then

44:28

the mono boob especially in reboot just

44:30

makes it look like she's stretching

44:33

her shirt like like grapes

44:35

in Saran wrap like 90s comic

44:38

book yeah just

44:40

makes them look that much more absurd.

44:43

What Disney ride is this?

44:46

I remember that shot of her falling back

44:48

from all the trailers at the time that

44:51

was yeah that was in every. You can tell what shots

44:53

they made for trailers. Yeah. There

44:55

was also the one where you're looking

44:57

down under her feet. Yeah. That

44:59

was one that popped up in the trailers a lot.

45:02

Yeah.

45:03

And they're like this is a dream sequence we

45:05

can make as crazy as we want. This is

45:07

where all the big trailer shots go. Anyone

45:10

from Tucson in the chat?

45:14

Tucson. Tucson Arizona.

45:17

The Tucson wasteland it doesn't look any different

45:19

than that. I was going to say that's just what Tucson looks like

45:22

right now. Hey we're

45:24

just having fun. Shout out to

45:26

everybody from Tucson out there. We appreciate

45:28

you. Shout out to our Tucson listeners.

45:31

Our burgeoning Tucson fan base. Well

45:35

we just alienated all the Arizona fans.

45:39

Your sunsets are very pretty.

45:41

They are actually.

45:44

I actually really enjoyed Flagstaff so there.

45:47

I hate the desert but I

45:49

like the sunsets.

45:51

That's it.

45:53

I was thinking about how at

45:56

the beginning of the decade

45:58

we get. Aki. At

46:01

the end of the decade, we get Lightning.

46:03

And

46:04

how those are two characters, two female leads

46:07

in Final Fantasy who are, you

46:09

know, they're not sexualized

46:12

really at all.

46:14

Wasn't Aki in Playboy or something? Well

46:16

yes, she did have a spread in Maxim.

46:19

Oh geez. I do want to point

46:22

out, I do want to point out that

46:24

in Lightning Returns, they explicitly

46:26

made Lightning's

46:28

bus line bigger to appeal

46:30

to the dudes. Yeah, but that

46:32

was in 2013, 2014? Yeah,

46:37

I just say that. And they went with brain worms. But that character

46:39

was eventually sexualized. Also they made- Victor

46:41

just made a point where you're like, no, no, actually no.

46:44

The creation of Lightning also

46:46

was explicitly so they can make

46:48

a female cloud. That

46:50

was pretty much it. Well

46:52

they missed the point of cloud. What if cloud but

46:55

girl? The male drive

46:57

to create the female cloud.

47:01

But we have these- We

47:06

have the technology. Female

47:08

leads that bookend the decade. And right

47:10

in the middle, we have FF10-2,

47:12

which is

47:15

just

47:15

girls dressing up like-

47:18

I loved it. Like girls going out to the

47:20

club. And that is the

47:22

one, that is the female led Final Fantasy

47:26

from the 2000s that has

47:29

stayed in the

47:31

mind of people the most

47:33

and has been looked back on the most fondly.

47:36

Is the cheesecakey girls- Yeah.

47:38

Oh yeah. It's the Shania

47:40

Twain Let's Go girls RPG. It

47:43

is fantastic. Someday

47:46

we will do a panty in the Final Fantasy X-2

47:48

and it will be good. It's so good. Let's

47:50

do a panty in the final fantasy. We're going to do panty in

47:52

the Final Fantasy- Shania Twain

47:54

Pantheon. I love parakeet

47:57

people. I think you might have your boots been under

47:59

number one or-

47:59

I'd

48:04

watch that

48:10

come on everyone we're getting losers we're

48:12

going on spirit quest

48:18

so is this like a planet with life on it hard-brained she

48:25

was like burped about

48:29

our remeters that wait

48:32

turns out that the final spirit is toms

48:35

yeah for me is gab is gone

48:37

I gotta have a real heavy do stuff plus

48:39

my prescription medication

48:55

his backpack is the seventh spirit

48:57

those

48:59

mine I guess got like

49:01

candy in there a good a

49:03

good Herschel little

49:06

get through the apocalypse here

49:12

we go is so

49:16

they eat the spirit that made disappears for good

49:18

ok wait hold on

49:20

yeah happens to people

49:23

and yet general do this like you the earth

49:25

can't have a soul don't ask Oh

49:32

harperings back again fucking

49:34

chilly Wendy's curse you

49:37

got a little even

49:42

you got that right I think I think it was one

49:44

of the the general's lackeys that got

49:46

sent on the trip yeah yeah

49:48

one of the faceless ones that they

49:51

don't want to start I'm so sorry

49:54

red shirts will be red shirts yeah

50:00

Super fighting robot. We'll back

50:02

up, oh, back up.

50:03

This

50:09

is a pretty cool monster design.

50:11

Yeah, it's all right.

50:13

I like snakes. That's another thing that this movie

50:15

is missing, is the Final Fantasy monsters.

50:18

Yeah, for sure. We have the iconic

50:20

menagerie, and we're going

50:22

to just have pretty generic spirit

50:25

monsters. They can have like a visor

50:27

now. I mean, I want to call them generic,

50:29

but...

50:31

Does Bahamut show up in this movie?

50:33

I don't think so, no. I don't think

50:35

they have any summons. It's

50:38

interesting that you say that, because

50:41

I did learn something in one of

50:43

the commentaries. I'll bring it up closer to the

50:45

end. There's

50:49

actually a point where Aki says,

50:51

come to me, Efreet, and it was actually

50:53

just a portent of future

50:55

Final Fantasies to come. Come to me, Dark

50:57

Warriors. Battle awaits us.

51:03

I

51:03

have to go to the spirit hospital to step on it.

51:10

Oh, no. This scene

51:12

also has one of those things where I'm like, oh, yeah,

51:15

if all of the things are true about this

51:17

world, then what else is true,

51:19

and what does that mean

51:21

you can do? And this has

51:24

one of my favorite examples of that. It'll come

51:26

up in a second when Steve Buscemi starts doing some

51:29

fun piloting.

51:39

So, y'all

51:41

got any video games, or what?

51:44

Let's go stand here.

51:46

It's a tableau.

51:50

I always kind of annoyed when soldier

51:53

figures like that, like that weird bug thing, are

51:55

identical. And there's just nothing at all

51:57

to kind of tell them apart. One

52:00

won't have like, you know, a bent part

52:02

here or a missing part there. They're always look just exactly

52:04

the same.

52:04

It's called a hive my

52:07

Nadia. He lost this. It's

52:10

my least favorite. It's definitely my least favorite

52:12

kind of enemy. The, the horde. The

52:15

horde. Yeah. It's just very boring. Yeah.

52:18

Oh, well, now they're burning. Not exciting to fight, I would say.

52:21

Oh man. Imagine,

52:23

oh, you have nightmares.

52:29

Oh, let's go fight,

52:31

fight, fight.

52:34

Yeah.

52:38

Who is driving? There's driving.

52:40

Here we go. I, I appreciate,

52:43

I appreciate this a lot. Whoever

52:45

storyboarded this deserves

52:47

a,

52:51

this is very matrix right here.

52:53

It is extremely, the hovercraft

52:55

flying through the tunnel and

52:57

everything.

53:00

Here we go.

53:08

You know, I'm something of a pilot myself.

53:13

Yeah. Excuse me. Flew

53:15

through a ghost.

53:18

Nope. To kill the bad dude. Ghost

53:21

poisoned.

53:23

Lending new meaning

53:25

to ghost ride the whip, you know.

53:31

And some of these, like, so

53:34

a lot of these backgrounds are matte paintings, which

53:36

I also, like, yeah,

53:39

some of them are really beautiful.

53:44

The ghost really dig her. You

53:48

should probably throw her out. You

53:55

should jack Nicholson. I

53:57

don't want to smell you. Dr. Sid's.

53:59

wave theory.

54:01

This guy, I

54:03

love this guy kind of looks

54:06

like a very well known

54:08

Vancouver CBC

54:10

reporter.

54:14

Serious? You're not Peter Mansbridge.

54:17

No, no. He

54:20

looks quite a bit like

54:22

if Vancouver's

54:26

CBC reporter Justin McElroy were.

54:29

Oh, I know McElroy because

54:31

he gets mixed up with the other Justin

54:33

McElroy. The other Justin McElroy.

54:34

The other Justin McElroy get tips about dead bodies

54:37

and sewers because they think it's the other McElroy. Yeah.

54:40

So they're friends actually. It's really funny. Yeah. So

54:42

they're going to implant the seventh spirit directly

54:45

into her chest plate,

54:47

giving her new

54:48

abilities

54:50

and a very large stat boost.

54:57

This was an RPG all along. See when

54:59

the bullet, when the bullet hits her

55:01

chest plate, it actually just created a

55:03

materia slot. I

55:07

don't understand. You don't have to understand

55:09

is the perfect summation of this movie. There's

55:14

a lot of, there's a lot of explanation

55:17

and very little of it seems to matter

55:19

very much.

55:20

Yeah. It's very 90s

55:22

RPG in that regard. Okay.

55:24

So now they're going to like drift with

55:26

each other. Yes. It's the flirting

55:28

bed.

55:32

The flirt Tron 2000.

55:34

Yeah. Why was, why was that built

55:37

the two hospital beds that can then

55:41

get your husband and wife dying together or partners.

55:43

Well, you see Catholicism

55:45

first started back in.

55:50

Sardin says, Aki like Tara becomes

55:53

more powerful after a coma. Hey,

55:57

this is like the first splash of color we've seen all

55:59

move.

55:59

Yeah.

56:01

It's kind of greenish instead of brownish.

56:04

Yeah. We're

56:07

dreaming, dumbass. That's a lot

56:09

of time and dreams. Nani?

56:14

Nani?

56:16

You made us.

56:20

I'm actually kind of curious what the Japanese

56:22

voice dub was like. Yeah.

56:25

Yeah. I

56:27

bet it is.

56:31

I find that Japanese voice actors, they

56:33

can always jazz up even a bad script.

56:36

I know that there tends to be tropes with certain

56:39

voice types, but the acting

56:41

for Japanese scripts I find rarely fails. It's

56:43

always

56:44

full of energy. Hey, don't

56:46

screw. Hey. That plan's kind of rare and valuable.

56:48

Yeah. It's a lot on a... I

56:51

like that leaf.

56:53

That leaf was trying its best, man. And

56:56

what am I watching, Major? It's called

56:58

Bluey. Everyone really likes

57:04

it. Something about the artifacting

57:06

on the dream recordings, I appreciate.

57:09

I like that... Yeah. Very

57:11

much time. Yeah. Really glad that it

57:13

always records the alien past

57:15

dream and not the freaky sex dreams, you

57:19

know?

57:20

That's in the other folder labeled

57:23

Tax Returns 2015. Work.

57:27

Just work.

57:38

And they're running

57:38

again.

57:41

And the Vikings are charging down the

57:43

field.

57:49

I'll go miss a field goal like always. I

57:52

like the intro to...

57:54

To all of my children.

57:56

Yeah.

57:58

To life's love.

58:08

with a similar apocalyptic

58:11

ending.

58:13

Here comes DalaMood.

58:20

Do these bug robots remind

58:22

you of anything?

58:23

They remind me of the space pirates

58:25

from Prime, Metroid Prime. Yeah.

58:28

Yeah, that's a good comparison. Yeah, yeah.

58:34

Those remind me of the space pirates from Prime. Now that's the deep

58:36

fire, baby. Yeah. Ooh.

58:39

God. Jafaroth.

58:41

Oh,

58:45

now it's the...

58:47

Deeply unsettling about seeing an eyeball

58:49

in there. I don't know. Yeah, totally.

58:52

I genuinely... Eyeballs

58:54

are fucked up. You ever think about that? Yeah. I

58:57

try not to think about that. Watching an eyeball

58:59

burn is a pretty unpleasant

59:02

visual. It's

59:07

coming right for us.

59:09

Or is that their planet? Their

59:11

planet exploded. Wait, I'm sorry. Was

59:14

it just like a comet ripped through

59:16

the planet? Is that what happened?

59:18

It was a bunch of people holding onto each other. I don't know. Maybe

59:20

it was... I just missed

59:21

the image there. Oh, man. That's

59:23

a fucked up thing. If my planet was exploding, I'd

59:26

simply just hold onto everyone around me.

59:28

Like a bundle of ants when they're in

59:30

trouble and they kind of just

59:31

like go bunch up around the queen. So

59:35

do... Would you say that this movie

59:37

has airships? We

59:41

see the various flying things count as

59:43

airships? I would

59:44

say it has belt

59:46

buckle collars for some reason.

59:50

Nobody move. Everybody's

59:52

under arrest in this movie. This

59:55

club is closed forever.

1:00:03

Oh, I'm drinking the brandy. Where did he get the brandy

1:00:05

in apocalyptic world? I don't know. It doesn't matter.

1:00:07

I'm drinking the brandy. That's good apple

1:00:09

juice. I shouldn't

1:00:14

have taken that urine test and I was so dehydrated.

1:00:16

Doctors could be pissed, so

1:00:19

to speak.

1:00:24

Wow.

1:00:25

Paper photo.

1:00:32

Yeah, it's what I think it's, I think

1:00:34

this is set in 2065. Yes.

1:00:37

We're

1:00:40

not that far away. Yeah. We will probably

1:00:42

survive. I

1:00:46

might live long enough to live in the world of Final

1:00:48

Fantasy spirits within. I probably

1:00:51

wish I was dead. To your spirit

1:00:53

yanked. Yep. That would

1:00:55

be pretty cool already. Usually you have to pay for that.

1:00:58

Oh, this is Final Fantasy 7 is F. Oh

1:01:00

my lord. Holy cow. Great

1:01:03

matte painting too. I think that's really...

1:01:05

It's like the kind of painting I'd love to own, but it

1:01:08

probably also sold off by now.

1:01:10

Or trashed.

1:01:12

Major, arrest these men. You

1:01:15

can't just keep arresting everyone. We

1:01:17

don't have... Let's just lose ourselves. We've

1:01:21

been putting them in closets with a chair in front

1:01:23

of the door. This is the ultimate pop.

1:01:25

He just loves arresting people.

1:01:29

I'm afraid to act. And if they won't take

1:01:32

action, we'll arrest them too.

1:01:35

Oh god, I have no idea what I'm hitting

1:01:38

here. Well,

1:01:41

you can really see the anime storyboarding

1:01:43

here. Yeah.

1:01:44

Oh, that's an anime shot right there.

1:01:47

Totally.

1:01:57

Everything's going to be fine, I'm sure.

1:01:59

to say that so menacingly? My

1:02:02

false flag operation is going to go without

1:02:04

a hitch. Don't worry.

1:02:06

Where's the can? I don't know. I think I'm in

1:02:08

trouble. I

1:02:14

love it when they put troublemakers together in a cell.

1:02:17

You people are aspiring. You can all

1:02:19

sit together in this room and we'll let you talk. Here's

1:02:22

some terrible, terrible Buscemi. He

1:02:31

likes fat, thick fandom. He's a comic

1:02:33

relief. The

1:02:36

one who came over last night had a booty the size

1:02:39

of two basketballs. Fateful

1:02:42

together. I

1:02:56

wrote not in the meteor. Get in loser. We're

1:02:58

going in the meteor.

1:03:11

They all died. Someone

1:03:14

touched the bar. I give you ten bucks if you lick the bars. I

1:03:18

get to keep my ten bucks, don't I? Think

1:03:30

of the dream, Gary God.

1:03:36

I knew it. Creepy, spooky

1:03:38

ghosts. I called it. They're phantoms.

1:03:44

Are we supposed to say these

1:03:47

are phantoms and be surprised when we're told they're

1:03:49

ghosts? Is that what we were supposed

1:03:51

to happen?

1:03:52

That's the big reveal. They're

1:03:55

flipping through the sores

1:03:57

for different versions.

1:03:59

of the same word they've got ghosts, fannoms,

1:04:02

spirits, we're gonna get illusions

1:04:05

next, aprolations, fansions, ghouls,

1:04:10

ghasts, we do have a lot of

1:04:12

good for girls don't we? We walk in goblins, ghouls,

1:04:15

zombie with no conscience.

1:04:18

Welcome to grade four writing class of Miss

1:04:20

Garelik.

1:04:29

I actually did have a Miss Garelik, everyone called her Miss

1:04:31

Garelik. Miss Garelik?

1:04:33

Because

1:04:34

now you always have shitposting names

1:04:36

for your teachers, right?

1:04:40

Oh, it's Leviathan.

1:04:41

So wait, did we

1:04:43

determine that we can shoot the fannoms?

1:04:46

It's like Americans shooting into hurricanes.

1:04:49

Oh man.

1:04:50

Oh my heart. He

1:04:52

gets got by friendly fire because

1:04:55

they were trying to shoot through a ghost.

1:04:59

Like dumbasses.

1:05:02

Oh, that's the end of me.

1:05:06

So what I

1:05:08

think I eventually figured out is

1:05:10

that weaponry that is powered by

1:05:13

the bioetheric energy does

1:05:16

have the ability to destroy fannoms.

1:05:21

But just shooting

1:05:24

at them probably not gonna do much. Shooting at them isn't gonna

1:05:26

do anything. You're just gonna hit the thing behind

1:05:28

it. The CG fire is a little better. Yeah,

1:05:33

it's weird how

1:05:35

different it is in certain scenes. So

1:05:38

it's like Final Fantasy 7 in other words where

1:05:40

you have wildly variable quality. Final

1:05:43

Fantasy 7 reference. Wildly

1:05:47

disparate quality in

1:05:49

your CG.

1:05:52

Sardin says, I wish this movie had

1:05:55

some swords somewhere. I

1:05:57

didn't take out some swords now and start beating each other with it.

1:06:02

I

1:06:03

don't disagree. I wish this movie

1:06:05

also had some I also wish this movie had

1:06:07

some swords Some

1:06:12

wild run animations there like

1:06:15

the Star Fox 64 run

1:06:22

My brother that always pissed my brother off for some reason

1:06:24

like where they're running to

1:06:26

These are friendly these are friendly

1:06:28

monsters, right?

1:06:30

Are they?

1:06:31

It's making color so we know that maybe not

1:06:34

maybe not should be you should press the joystick

1:06:36

in and see if they're ratty or Yellow

1:06:39

or green and you'll know nice that they're color-coded

1:06:41

by the way

1:06:43

Yeah,

1:06:44

that's convenient

1:06:45

So

1:06:49

they are normally invisible But

1:06:51

because of the the route that the

1:06:53

bad guy opened up for them to get in They

1:06:57

entered through the energy like

1:07:00

conduits. So now they are radiated

1:07:03

by bioetheric energy So that's why

1:07:05

they show up now and people can see them Which

1:07:08

is something I did not clock until

1:07:11

One of the commentary to act it's not

1:07:14

it's not super The commentaries

1:07:16

were here to clear everything up

1:07:18

And it seems like it'd be a really

1:07:21

kind of interesting story if they did kind of

1:07:23

clear up a lot of things Maybe

1:07:26

took off the final fantasy name. I

1:07:28

Don't know I feel

1:07:30

like a lot of Final fantasy

1:07:33

stories kind of collapse under the

1:07:35

the weight of their Under

1:07:37

scrutiny of their world

1:07:39

building, you know, I don't know what you're talking about Final

1:07:42

Fantasy 8 has a perfect world Look

1:07:45

FF 10 is about a really bad

1:07:48

dad But

1:07:52

God I don't know how Libyans found me but they found me you

1:07:54

think they were planning to sell this as a toy. Oh

1:07:57

It's like a little like

1:07:59

hell or whatever. Oh, yeah. Sell

1:08:02

it for like a life size. I'll buy it.

1:08:04

Nadia, that's

1:08:06

just a, that's just a car. You can buy cars. How

1:08:10

much spirits within merch is there is what I'm

1:08:12

asking because Square makes merch for everything. I

1:08:14

think there was only a few figures. I think you can

1:08:16

get an Aki Ross figure,

1:08:20

but there really wasn't much. No.

1:08:23

I'm sure there's probably some Pepsi cups

1:08:25

that you can get from the theater that have some geek art

1:08:27

on them.

1:08:29

No, daddy, no. I

1:08:30

do actually rather enjoy the visual of

1:08:33

people having their soul yanked from their body.

1:08:35

It's quite creepy actually. Especially

1:08:39

on the close up of the first one when you see that

1:08:41

like his nervous system is represented

1:08:44

in it. Like yeah, it's all the everything.

1:08:47

It's kind of a little bag. It's full of

1:08:49

everything important. That

1:08:52

guy has a briefcase. Oh, boy. They

1:08:54

had fun animating this one. Fun papers. Yeah.

1:08:58

Oh, darn it. It's like the clock

1:09:00

king with goes insane efforts papers

1:09:03

like go just disarray. That is such a great origin

1:09:05

story.

1:09:07

Batman I mean.

1:09:08

Sorry. That's probably the feeling. I love

1:09:10

that we reinvented the highway, but it's just one

1:09:13

way. Thank you, Musk.

1:09:16

Yeah. The Tesla tunnel. Oh, God.

1:09:19

I do think. I was tempted to

1:09:21

ride that thing when I was in Las Vegas, but I was like, no,

1:09:24

I'm not. I just can't. Oh,

1:09:26

but we didn't invent automatic room.

1:09:29

They're checking. The

1:09:32

hell out of here. Those Duke boys,

1:09:35

where do they get up to next?

1:09:36

I do think that that one of the

1:09:39

sort of thematic things that links it

1:09:41

maybe even to F. F. Ten is

1:09:44

that like

1:09:45

the clinging to life after

1:09:47

death, you know. Yeah,

1:09:49

it's very much a very. Oh, yeah. A lot

1:09:51

of the spirits of the faith and things like

1:09:54

that. For sure. For sure. Hold

1:09:56

your breath.

1:09:58

We're going through it. Okay.

1:10:01

Just,

1:10:04

I don't... Steve Buscemi is the funny one.

1:10:07

Can we get a second take on that line? Can we get

1:10:09

like a run bag? I need

1:10:11

all of the blind lines. Do you think he literally

1:10:13

phoned it in? That's

1:10:16

extremely possible. Steve, we

1:10:18

just need you to do a quick pickup over the phone. Look,

1:10:22

I don't disparage anyone

1:10:24

just getting a check out of this movie, alright? Oh, absolutely

1:10:26

not. No. Get it while the square

1:10:28

pictures checks are still weird. If I were

1:10:30

Steve, I would have gone to Hawaii and had

1:10:33

a nice little Hawaiian vacation.

1:10:35

I could just picture, like, Game

1:10:37

Fan magazine was it, where everyone had to run to the

1:10:39

bank before the checks started to bounce during...

1:10:41

Everyone running

1:10:43

to the bank for the square pictures.

1:10:46

Well they...

1:10:49

They did all have to be in studio

1:10:52

because motion capture wasn't at the point

1:10:54

yet where they could do facial capture. So

1:10:57

all the facial stuff is all hand

1:10:59

animated and they would film

1:11:02

different angles of the voice

1:11:04

actors in the booth and

1:11:07

then the animators would match it

1:11:09

to what their face was doing. Oh man, it's like rotoscoping

1:11:11

kind of. Yeah.

1:11:13

That sounds like the reason why this

1:11:15

movie took four years. Yeah.

1:11:24

Did they kill the black guy?

1:11:27

Sorry Ving Rhames.

1:11:29

Oh, that is Ving Rhames, yeah.

1:11:33

I hear it now. Man, just

1:11:36

like the newest Mission Impossible movie too. It's a very 2001 trope.

1:11:39

Black character dies. Ving Rhames

1:11:41

has to leave now, just like in Mission Impossible.

1:11:44

Planet Eejan.

1:11:51

That is such a... It was so

1:11:53

weird to be alive in the time of when we saw those episodes

1:11:55

for the first time and now looking back and seeing

1:11:57

what became a meme. big

1:12:00

one

1:12:01

and some more hands

1:12:04

I watched some all in reruns over and

1:12:06

over and over again oh yeah yeah I did that

1:12:08

I don't watch someone there originally though I did watch

1:12:10

the the gun one when

1:12:13

it originally

1:12:16

turning other lights

1:12:17

it shooting it you

1:12:19

want the King England your business rolling

1:12:21

in here I do

1:12:24

a PlayStation

1:12:27

over packs that sounds like aches

1:12:32

what's wrong the what the quattro

1:12:35

the quattro quattro said the Gundam

1:12:37

pilot yeah

1:12:39

the the number that Bono can't count to know

1:12:42

no today's crotors

1:12:45

a something good

1:12:47

it's one two three fourteen that's

1:12:51

well

1:12:52

counting in foreign languages can be difficult

1:12:54

like if you're a Canadian and you have to learn

1:12:56

how to count in French you have to expand

1:12:59

your mind you have to like

1:13:00

actually go on a pilgrimage before you learn how to do that you

1:13:02

don't know what you're saying in two eighties

1:13:04

plus a ten plus a nine every

1:13:06

time you know some cats are then we

1:13:09

so what you're saying is Bono does not have a Spanish

1:13:12

friend a Spanish-speaking friend

1:13:14

probably not a

1:13:16

lot of friends if

1:13:20

only do a lingo was popular

1:13:28

muscle muscle

1:13:32

transformer

1:13:36

drink it

1:13:36

they found the monster oh no that's the

1:13:38

was the Ghostbusters tie-in

1:13:41

thing oh

1:13:42

the ecto

1:13:43

cool cool cooler yeah

1:13:46

we found the last fridge of echo right

1:13:49

my husband had some of that like collected on

1:13:51

his porch back porch in North Carolina and some

1:13:53

bees built a nest because of

1:13:56

course they did only

1:13:58

only that can survive the apocalypse

1:14:00

is ectocooler and Twinkies.

1:14:04

That's not bad living if you can get it. Got

1:14:07

the beer. Crack

1:14:09

them open. Oh,

1:14:16

coupling.

1:14:23

You pass the coupling.

1:14:25

No, they're

1:14:26

having a good time.

1:14:31

I love a good like it's too quiet

1:14:34

section in a movie. Like this has just

1:14:36

been an entire like it's too quiet. It's

1:14:38

a little too rasp. It's

1:14:41

quiet. Too quiet. I

1:14:44

think a penny's saying it. Everything

1:14:47

in this movie has like... Cheers. Light

1:14:50

sticks. Yeah.

1:14:52

You're right. I

1:14:55

swear to God I saw the Canadian Tire logo.

1:15:01

Canadian Tire Money is the only currency used

1:15:03

in 2065. Yuri

1:15:07

on Ice has a character who wears a Canadian Tire logo

1:15:10

upside down.

1:15:12

Oh, the anti-Canadian Tire.

1:15:14

Yes. Cast Wheels is called

1:15:16

apparently. It's

1:15:19

really weird. I love Japanese. It's

1:15:21

just... It's a thing. It's a dumb

1:15:23

thing. Take that air. Is

1:15:39

she shooting like a magic bullet now?

1:15:41

Yes. The bio-theoric

1:15:44

energy.

1:15:45

I get that these guns are

1:15:48

just meant to launch lasers. Probably

1:15:50

pretty new technology. But we

1:15:52

didn't put like a buttstock

1:15:55

or sights on this thing or anything. It's

1:15:57

just a pipe that blasts.

1:15:59

3D printing. Before

1:16:02

I played, thankfully.

1:16:06

I don't know how much

1:16:07

Japan knows about guns. But

1:16:09

we gave it this sick rail thing on the

1:16:12

outside of the grip.

1:16:13

They know how to make them look cool.

1:16:17

Oh, no. Oh, it can't be good. I

1:16:19

got the space SC. Steve, no. How

1:16:23

do you do, fellow dead people? I'm

1:16:29

going to kill them and it's going to be wandering as if the Xiaomi ghost

1:16:31

forever.

1:16:33

How do you do, fellow ghosts? Wait,

1:16:41

it has a mechanical magazine or something too? Like...

1:16:45

No, Jane! Yeah,

1:16:47

see ya, guys. I'm going home. Ah,

1:16:50

the character whose name we definitely knew. Finally.

1:16:54

God, that was getting really annoying.

1:17:04

Is there a

1:17:05

Hawaiian vacation? Is that an end? Mm-hmm.

1:17:10

That was a cool visual, though, of the tentacles

1:17:12

rising up. Yeah,

1:17:15

I think that looks real good. Mm-hmm.

1:17:20

There's

1:17:22

something about this

1:17:24

compared to Advent Children, is that

1:17:26

this really tries to do realistic

1:17:30

camera angles, like realistic

1:17:33

composition that you would get from a real camera

1:17:35

rig. Whereas Advent Children is,

1:17:37

we are unfettered by your

1:17:40

God. We

1:17:44

are going to put our camera underneath

1:17:48

this bike as it's crashing and

1:17:50

then swing it around into a dude's

1:17:52

crotch on the other side of the scene.

1:17:55

Like, it goes all over the place.

1:17:58

Okay, so this movie is PG-7. I was saying

1:18:00

earlier since PG-13 it gets one it gets

1:18:03

one fuck but so far I've only heard son

1:18:05

of a bitch and we just had it. So let's see if

1:18:07

we get the fuck final fancy fuck

1:18:09

Hey, it's a big reigns who somehow

1:18:12

got over here. Yeah, he's okay He's

1:18:16

shooting at the big crab asperthing

1:18:17

he's gonna die now to wait

1:18:20

What was he doing while everyone was getting ghosts

1:18:23

sucked way back then these just watching

1:18:25

it happen. He was just chillin

1:18:27

Don't make a little bit. You can't

1:18:29

make DLC to explain. Yeah, get go suck

1:18:31

I

1:18:37

didn't

1:18:37

understand that as a child nobody explained it to me

1:18:39

probably for the best.

1:18:41

Oh, he's gonna shoot the the ecto cooler. Yeah

1:18:45

No, I probably got cancer of our Lisa's

1:18:47

dead Second

1:18:53

phase second boss phase I

1:19:01

Think something

1:19:03

there's something to the

1:19:06

the the presence

1:19:08

of orange and presence of color

1:19:10

being a Portentive doom that

1:19:13

I think is kind of interesting that that

1:19:15

could have maybe been explored a little more

1:19:17

like yeah It is such a gray

1:19:21

Brown movie and then the splash

1:19:23

of a bright warm color means you're

1:19:26

fucked death. Yeah. Yeah That's

1:19:28

an interesting reverse attack.

1:19:30

Yeah, I feel like they could have I

1:19:33

don't know

1:19:33

Could have pursued that in some

1:19:36

interesting ways

1:19:40

Goodbye Aki me and my hair cuts

1:19:43

are going away They

1:19:45

almost killed the boss

1:19:47

Yeah, damn. Come on say the L word

1:19:50

lesbians you Know

1:19:55

the other our lesbians know you threw

1:19:57

away the bluetooth now you can never say

1:19:59

how much you

1:19:59

Lesbians are no

1:20:02

male Shepherd

1:20:04

the gun it does

1:20:06

nothing

1:20:07

insert

1:20:10

the

1:20:11

the super cut of all of the slab

1:20:14

McBeef body chunk

1:20:17

chunk McHugeman huge

1:20:19

large meat huge

1:20:21

large meat great oh

1:20:26

why'd you hold away the last second like

1:20:28

Lucy with the football you

1:20:31

had to make it dramatic second

1:20:33

thoughts about the relationship actually in

1:20:38

in the outtakes

1:20:40

there is there is one where they

1:20:44

they do one where she pulls it away even further

1:20:46

just to just to make him fall very very

1:20:49

cute with their own outtakes I miss

1:20:52

movie outtakes remember when they did that that

1:20:54

was yeah the way story

1:20:57

Toy Story 2 quote-unquote outtakes are

1:20:59

like some of the funniest things I've ever seen yeah

1:21:01

I'm a nation Toy Story 2

1:21:04

I'm gonna put it out there it's the best

1:21:06

Toy Story oh

1:21:07

I agree yeah I loved I

1:21:09

thought in theaters it was great

1:21:10

I had my least favorite Toy Story why

1:21:15

the original story the

1:21:18

original Toy Story is a perfect

1:21:20

movie Oh cat sitting up

1:21:23

there with water up to her chin I did

1:21:25

not care for Toy Story 2 it's got

1:21:27

the whole

1:21:34

bit with with the cowgirl

1:21:36

and sad and stuff and

1:21:38

then the angry prospector and

1:21:40

they cry

1:21:42

running across the street

1:21:44

and the traffic cones is so good I do like

1:21:47

Jesse

1:21:48

and of course it has that one song ah

1:21:51

quite beautiful I don't

1:21:54

know I haven't watched all of the Toy Story movies in a

1:21:56

while but

1:21:58

I do think that Toy Story 2

1:21:59

Story 4 doesn't get the respect that it

1:22:02

deserves. I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, I still

1:22:04

haven't seen Toy Story 4. Three was

1:22:06

good. I really enjoyed it. I thought 3D ended

1:22:08

it really well. I really enjoy how Toy Story 4

1:22:11

is sort of an epilogue for the entire

1:22:13

series and also rehabilitates Bo

1:22:15

Peep. Anyway, those are my Toy Story takes during

1:22:17

Final Fantasy. The spirits within. Was

1:22:22

she supposed to be... Another CG film? Oh, okay.

1:22:24

She wasn't supposed to be saying something there. She was

1:22:27

like moving her mouth like she was supposed to say something.

1:22:30

I was like, did they put peanut butter on the roof of her mouth

1:22:32

or something? Like this. So

1:22:35

are the spirits

1:22:35

who are eaten, are they gone for good?

1:22:37

Yeah, you're dead. Oh, that

1:22:39

sucks. I

1:22:40

don't know if you know this, Naughty, but you do need

1:22:42

a soul to live. Dynamis.

1:22:45

Actually the episode

1:22:46

of... Dynamis, me and Ewan

1:22:48

is not... Oh

1:22:51

my god, that bottom lip just for

1:22:53

two seconds. Okay, so I saw that too. It looked

1:22:55

like an elephant's lip or something. It was really weird. Yeah,

1:22:57

it pulled out way too far. Oh,

1:23:01

god. Oh, god. Oh, god. Oh,

1:23:03

god. Oh. I

1:23:05

don't think it's too bad. I think as far

1:23:07

as CG kisses go. It's not that

1:23:10

bad. They're doing their best. Yeah,

1:23:12

the bottom lip was just

1:23:14

moving in a way that did not look natural.

1:23:17

So they're having sex in space. That

1:23:19

must be nice. It's too bad that that scene just

1:23:21

pales in comparison to the FF10

1:23:24

equivalent, which like is

1:23:26

an all timer.

1:23:29

The water thing.

1:23:30

The Final Fantasy X was being made concurrently

1:23:32

with Final Fantasy the Spirits Within.

1:23:34

Oh, hey.

1:23:36

This was inspired by Romeo and Juliet. So

1:23:39

Sid is flying the ship and they're just like zero

1:23:41

G banging in the background. You

1:23:44

kids back

1:23:44

there, god damn it. They're not making a mess. I'm

1:23:46

not cleaning that up. I remember when I was

1:23:48

young.

1:23:50

Sakaguchi

1:23:52

really loved the characters going to space

1:23:54

scene.

1:23:55

Back

1:23:57

in Final Fantasy VII.

1:23:59

Yeah, four

1:24:02

Seven I always thought that sevens space

1:24:04

scene was very heartbreaking the shortest

1:24:06

barrel I've ever seen on a gun Even

1:24:09

a Derringer have you ever seen a Derringer?

1:24:11

Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Is that thing like

1:24:14

the the trigger guard is where the the

1:24:16

snub nose like ends. I

1:24:19

Have a feeling they didn't have much money left over

1:24:21

to model their guns There's like just a slap

1:24:23

bunch of barrels and boxes together and we'll call

1:24:25

it a

1:24:26

day I I

1:24:29

really do appreciate the the

1:24:32

balls to have a scene where the

1:24:34

bad guy is about to shoot himself in the head

1:24:37

I think that's pretty cool But then

1:24:39

he decides that he can continue to like fuck

1:24:42

with the story and yeah just continues

1:24:44

to just be a jerk Yeah, okay.

1:24:46

You kids have a good time. Thanks for joining me here

1:24:51

My grandfather yet

1:24:57

Your safe word is dynamist

1:25:14

The a spirit You

1:25:22

Actually Eric when you brought up the spirit

1:25:23

thing I was just thinking how the Simpsons episode

1:25:25

of Bart selling his soul is a really On

1:25:28

a theological level and a comedic

1:25:30

level. It's a great episode of the Simpsons. It's

1:25:32

a great

1:25:36

That's the episode with

1:25:39

Mo's

1:25:41

Mo's restaurant family restaurant most

1:25:43

family fried eat them I

1:25:49

Please take this basket off my head kid.

1:25:51

It's extremely hot really hot Invariably

1:25:57

by the third act we were just gonna to

1:26:00

descend in the Simpsons quotes.

1:26:02

It was bound to happen.

1:26:06

Oh, is that like a, it looks

1:26:07

like a space elevator.

1:26:12

I wish. I love a space elevator.

1:26:14

Ooh. Do you like Mega Man X8 then?

1:26:17

Absolutely. Yeah. An

1:26:19

entire generation of final, an entire

1:26:21

generation of Japanese nerds

1:26:23

grew up with Gundam.

1:26:25

Yeah. And is that where the space elevator thing kind

1:26:27

of? Very much so. I

1:26:29

know it's an actual concept, but in sci-fi,

1:26:31

I really kind of got a boost during that time, I guess.

1:26:34

Yeah.

1:26:40

Any of you all seen

1:26:43

the CG Captain Harlock movie?

1:26:46

I have not seen the CG Captain Harlock.

1:26:49

I did see the CG Yamato. It was one of the most

1:26:51

boring things I've ever watched. Oh, yeah.

1:26:56

Harlock has a,

1:26:58

Harlock has a real good space laser as

1:27:01

far as space lasers go. That's

1:27:03

an all-time. Space lasers ring.

1:27:05

Yeah. They're going to fire the cannon and there's going

1:27:08

to be like two chicks fighting on top of it in a

1:27:10

slap fight.

1:27:12

In a vacuum of space,

1:27:14

one was wearing a tacky dress. The Phantom

1:27:16

Crater.

1:27:33

Okay, that rules. That's

1:27:36

cool.

1:27:36

That's where the budget went. Orb Jeep.

1:27:39

Yep. I love Orb Jeep. Because

1:27:42

if these things are true, then what else

1:27:45

is true? And if you can create those barriers,

1:27:47

why can't you create a little barrier

1:27:49

in your little Jeep?

1:27:51

Yeah. Yeah.

1:27:52

I appreciate it. I

1:27:55

appreciate the thought that goes into something. They just better

1:27:57

hope that the battery doesn't run out.

1:27:59

than I have a problem. Might have a bad time.

1:28:02

It looks like

1:28:14

they're inside that like Tang liquid from

1:28:16

Evangelion. Mm-hmm.

1:28:17

The LCL. Yeah. It's

1:28:20

just called Tang.

1:28:24

No, Tang is the other... Well, I mean, it's... But

1:28:27

they turn into... It's kind of the same thing. Yeah. It

1:28:30

turns

1:28:30

into LCL. Yeah. Yeah. Spoiler

1:28:33

alert, end of Evangelion.

1:28:34

Yeah. Speaking of

1:28:36

Evangelion, look at those like plug

1:28:38

things coming out. Totally. Yeah.

1:28:42

I had way too much fun with the actual industrial

1:28:44

design and not enough fun with literally anything else

1:28:47

in this movie. Yeah. That's

1:28:49

a good way of putting it.

1:29:01

I want to finish Evangelion, but every time... I

1:29:03

don't know. I keep having weird dreams about it.

1:29:06

They kind of distract me. You keep having weird

1:29:08

dreams about it. Good. That's the experience

1:29:10

you should be having. Yeah.

1:29:13

I can't even tell you what those dreams are. I just know like something

1:29:15

about them is bad. And when I think of Evangelion,

1:29:17

I think, oh, that's troubling. I'll

1:29:20

get to it eventually, but yeah, sometimes

1:29:22

my dreams do that. I've finally figured out who the villain in this movie

1:29:24

reminds me of, by the way. It's basically Ben

1:29:27

Shapiro. Yes. Thank

1:29:29

you. Of the Ben Shapiro in

1:29:31

Virgil cosplay. Yeah, pretty much. I

1:29:34

like Virgil better than Ben Shapiro. Unfortunately,

1:29:39

James Woods and Ben Shapiro probably

1:29:41

have plenty to talk about. Climate

1:29:44

change is a myth, Dante. Dante.

1:29:47

Look at that. How are they

1:29:49

talking about it? Oh, so you're telling me there's

1:29:51

just spirits? There's just spirits now? And they're just supposed

1:29:53

to be appeared Dante? Yeah.

1:30:01

Here comes the tang.

1:30:08

God just thinking when I was a kid and like everyone

1:30:10

was just like, hey, yeah, okay, drink some

1:30:13

water and sugar and die.

1:30:15

Nobody gave a damn.

1:30:16

Hey,

1:30:21

Kool-Aid. That's your solution

1:30:22

to everything. Shoot the crater with

1:30:25

the orbital death laser.

1:30:27

So when I was in middle

1:30:29

school, I really pissed off my

1:30:31

history teacher because I said that

1:30:34

they should have just built really big cannons

1:30:37

because my theory was that if you could

1:30:39

sink a boat, you could also sink a country. There

1:30:44

are many reasons why that does not actually

1:30:46

work but I was like, if you can

1:30:48

sink a boat and countries

1:30:50

are just in water, you can just sink a country

1:30:52

by hitting it with a really big cannon ball. Oh,

1:30:55

no, you can dodge a wrench, you can

1:30:57

dodge a ball. That is why... The belt just

1:30:59

sprung a leak. It's sinking. It's

1:31:01

likely to know that Hironobu Sakaguchi

1:31:04

has also thought of what if cannons sink a

1:31:06

country. That's

1:31:08

why we don't give Eric the keys to the acts

1:31:11

of the blood god orbital death ray. Whatever's

1:31:14

coming out looks like, what's

1:31:16

it called, like elephant toothpaste or devil toothpaste

1:31:18

that you see on TikTok?

1:31:19

Devil toothpaste?

1:31:21

What?

1:31:21

It's just some weird crap that kids make

1:31:24

and it all foams up into this big

1:31:26

colorful column of something. What

1:31:29

corner of the internet are you on? It's

1:31:31

just

1:31:31

regular TikTok.

1:31:34

If you look up elephant toothpaste or devil's toothpaste or

1:31:36

whatever, you'll find it. What are you looking at?

1:31:38

Just like that. How did you find

1:31:41

those words to begin with? That combination?

1:31:43

Wait, that's a solid phantom.

1:31:46

Wait a minute, that's not allowed.

1:31:49

Well, because it... I

1:31:51

think because it hits the barrier that

1:31:54

they're in? Oh, okay. Quick,

1:31:58

hit the

1:31:59

Commodore keyboard.

1:31:59

Like

1:32:00

the Ecto cooler saved us. No,

1:32:03

Ecto cooler might be their doom. I like

1:32:06

that they finally brought that back for the end.

1:32:08

The thing they only showed at the beginning.

1:32:13

That was a true hero all along. Ecto

1:32:15

cooler. Check off the Ecto cooler.

1:32:18

Dude taking a nap. Man,

1:32:21

we really should have worn seat belts. We really should have

1:32:23

invented those for this. Click it or take

1:32:25

it, dude. Well, they

1:32:27

don't put scopes or butts

1:32:29

on their guns. They don't put seat belts in their space

1:32:32

car.

1:32:33

Space car. Let's go

1:32:35

riding in that. No, I don't want to be here.

1:32:37

Here's Ben Shapiro.

1:32:39

Dad, can I borrow

1:32:41

the space car?

1:32:54

Oh, yeah, sure. It's not an invasion. Then why

1:32:56

are we being invaded? Dude,

1:32:58

you watched like 50,000 people

1:33:00

get their blue spirits sucked out of their

1:33:03

bodies and you're like, ghosts.

1:33:14

There's something down there I can shoot and goddamn

1:33:16

it. I'm going to shoot it. Look, we

1:33:19

have to kill these woke ghosts, OK? Oh,

1:33:24

I see. So if there's a guy and there's an earth

1:33:26

guy,

1:33:29

God, he really is. If

1:33:32

you're not with us, you're against us. Keep

1:33:36

shooting that gun.

1:33:43

Maybe it looks like the living organic planet

1:33:45

in.

1:33:46

What was it? Guardians of the Galaxy

1:33:49

three. So

1:33:51

we like the ghost. No, don't

1:33:53

kill the ghost. We like the ghost now.

1:33:57

This is a few very. I had to go rent

1:33:59

the orbital space. laser. Didn't you hear the

1:34:01

song? Don't make

1:34:03

a decision until you've heard both songs.

1:34:06

Okay, but not to

1:34:08

like, not to side with the general here or

1:34:10

anything. But aren't like, isn't

1:34:13

Aki and the rest of them also trying to get

1:34:15

rid of the ghosts? Like, they're not trying to save

1:34:17

them. They're just trying to kill them in a different

1:34:19

way, right? Well, I have no

1:34:21

idea. What is their long term plan here? They're

1:34:24

sad. They're sad. So they we

1:34:26

have to put them out of their misery. I'm

1:34:30

not actually sure what they're trying to do. What are they trying

1:34:32

to do, vector?

1:34:33

They so that's,

1:34:37

that's the thing. Sid says at the beginning,

1:34:39

the waveform that they're trying to generate.

1:34:45

Wait, the waveform is meant to neutralize

1:34:49

the phantoms. Now, to

1:34:51

a permanent end. Now, Sid, Sid

1:34:55

has an understanding of what that

1:34:58

means, but doesn't want to share

1:35:00

it because that's the thing that people won't get

1:35:02

on board with.

1:35:06

Yeah, it's,

1:35:07

it's, you know, you got to squint your brain a

1:35:09

little bit. Oh, my intrusive thoughts are going crazy.

1:35:12

Long live the king.

1:35:14

Oh, so I found

1:35:16

where they made Blue

1:35:19

Powerade. It

1:35:21

would come from the bowels of the earth.

1:35:23

I always knew Blue Powerade

1:35:26

was the life force of the earth.

1:35:30

See, if they do it like this,

1:35:32

they don't have to animate walking.

1:35:34

That's another Gundam thing right there. That's

1:35:37

what Starfield was missing.

1:35:46

That would

1:35:51

mess us up so bad as a species.

1:35:53

That was so June

1:35:55

on cannon right there. Yeah. Oh, see,

1:35:58

if you want to know more about that, Nadia, you should.

1:35:59

should watch the show The Expanse, which

1:36:02

covers that in great detail. What would happen if

1:36:04

you meant if they like grew up

1:36:06

in space instead of on Earth?

1:36:08

It's really cool actually. It's great. That

1:36:11

would be really cool. The experience is great. It's really, really good.

1:36:14

The best expression of a culture where Polly

1:36:16

is totally accepted in modern media?

1:36:19

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That

1:36:21

is in Xenoblade Chronicles 3? Yes,

1:36:23

better than Xenoblade Chronicles 3. Slash

1:36:26

Xenoblade Chronicles 2? No, that's just a harem.

1:36:32

Is a harem a polycule? No.

1:36:34

It can be. It could be, sure.

1:36:39

I have thoughts on this, but maybe this is

1:36:41

not the time or place. Let's

1:36:44

talk about polycules during spirits

1:36:46

within. Of course we're re-branding harem. Yeah.

1:36:55

Okay, so if they leave the Ghost alone, will they restore

1:36:57

the planets and stuff? Oh,

1:37:03

this is going to be a

1:37:05

vague FF7 ending, isn't it? Where

1:37:07

humans have to decide. This is Buginhagen. This

1:37:09

isn't Sid. I've

1:37:12

unmasked you, Sid.

1:37:13

A compatible spirit.

1:37:27

She's asleep in a nap. Oh,

1:37:29

man.

1:37:31

Really drank too much last night.

1:37:35

The one thing that they really want to emphasize, by

1:37:37

the way, when they were doing the CG, were the

1:37:40

pores in the skin. Yeah. Because

1:37:44

all of the humans in other

1:37:46

shows looked like they had, you know,

1:37:48

they looked like plastic, right? Yeah.

1:37:51

But here, the skin looks a

1:37:53

little more realistic, but still very

1:37:55

PS2. This is reminding

1:37:58

me, I was going to look up that Maxim cover.

1:37:59

Final

1:38:01

fantasy spirits

1:38:04

within Maxim.

1:38:08

Oh, right. Did she do the photo

1:38:10

shoot? Yeah. Yeah. I

1:38:12

forgot about that. Yeah. So did your

1:38:14

spirit just come out of her and kill her and that

1:38:16

was something? She was in the Maxim Hot 100

1:38:18

for 2001. I

1:38:21

have to say this feels like a metaphor for something.

1:38:25

Hold on. There's a vintage poster

1:38:27

from back then that someone's selling on eBay.

1:38:30

Is that kind of a vagina? Yeah, it sure

1:38:32

did. It's only like, oh God,

1:38:35

Victor, it's only like $36. It's

1:38:37

not that much for a vintage Maxim

1:38:39

Hot 100. Accu-Ross poster. I've

1:38:42

got $36. She just gave birth

1:38:44

to an alien or something. Can I get penseless

1:38:46

to the blood God cat? Yes.

1:38:51

I have to like put it in the background

1:38:53

of all her stream so I can tax write

1:38:55

it.

1:38:57

I hope my child

1:38:59

has giant pores like me. I

1:39:02

need a vino. Some of those are some

1:39:04

of those are cute freckles. Accu-Ross

1:39:06

really does need some good skincare but

1:39:08

skincare wasn't as much of a thing in 2001.

1:39:11

I shouldn't I shouldn't judge. I don't exactly

1:39:14

have gray skin myself.

1:39:14

The thing that I feel

1:39:17

is was a missed opportunity

1:39:19

is that like the whole the whole idea behind Accu-Ross

1:39:22

as a character was that she was going

1:39:24

to be a digital actor and

1:39:26

they would reuse the character of Aki-Ras

1:39:29

in all of their projects.

1:39:33

They made her an Unwoman instead.

1:39:35

Like even within this movie,

1:39:37

they like we are looking at a different

1:39:39

model of Accu-Ross than what we did

1:39:42

at the beginning because things progressed so

1:39:44

much. They did her several

1:39:46

times throughout the movie. So we're

1:39:49

because it was from beginning to end. We're

1:39:51

seeing the progression of the Accu-Ross

1:39:53

character model. And I think

1:39:55

I don't know if they had done a couple

1:39:58

other projects, we would have seen a little bit more.

1:39:59

The only time they ever got to use her again was

1:40:02

in a test

1:40:04

for their Animatrix short,

1:40:07

which was the only other thing that Square Pictures

1:40:09

ever did.

1:40:11

And that was being made, that was made

1:40:13

even after Square Pictures was shut down, right? That

1:40:16

was like the last project.

1:40:18

Yeah. But the idea of

1:40:21

having

1:40:22

digital

1:40:24

actors, characters that you reuse

1:40:27

to be recognizable is like, I don't

1:40:30

know, that's the proto Vtuber, that's the

1:40:32

proto Mikuhatsune

1:40:34

kind of thing, you know?

1:40:36

The digital actor concept in 2001?

1:40:39

Yeah. And I feel like it would

1:40:41

have been done more ethically than what we're

1:40:44

seeing now, which is just resurrecting

1:40:46

the dead to trot them out like everybody.

1:40:49

Oh, yeah. Yeah, the holograms

1:40:51

and de-aging

1:40:53

people and stuff like that. A

1:40:56

few years before this even came out, I was

1:40:59

like really big in a dragon heart, which was a kind

1:41:01

of a pretty good showcase of CG for its time too.

1:41:04

But you only had Sean Connery Dragon to animate,

1:41:06

not Super Mario

1:41:08

Tang Land, or whatever this is.

1:41:10

Get down.

1:41:13

I'm sure that'll help.

1:41:15

No,

1:41:18

don't shoot the blue Powerade. Oh,

1:41:21

we need that. Look, right?

1:41:23

Oh, now it's a red Powerade. Now

1:41:25

I'm going to be thirsty. Nobody likes red Powerade.

1:41:28

No, who wants red Powerade? This is

1:41:30

just the FF7 crater.

1:41:33

Like this is where we are

1:41:35

in the lifestream, we are, you know.

1:41:39

This is where you got very Final Fantasy for

1:41:41

sure. Let's really play Final Fantasy 7 one

1:41:44

day. You really should. You really should

1:41:46

before making judgments on it. Oh.

1:41:49

No, I mean, I watched my friend

1:41:51

play most of it. I've learned

1:41:53

most of it through like cultural osmosis, but

1:41:55

I've never really like sat down and played it myself. What

1:41:57

you really need to do, Eric, is time travel.

1:41:59

back to 1997 and experience it the way that

1:42:02

we experienced it.

1:42:06

I'd be five, so I don't know if I'd really like... That's

1:42:09

okay, like you're modern Eric, I'm

1:42:11

saying. Oh, okay. Yeah. Can I

1:42:13

play it with my five-year-old self?

1:42:15

Oh, yeah. Sure.

1:42:17

Your five-year-old self would be pretty impressed.

1:42:19

Deeper. That's fair words. I

1:42:21

hope he's impressed, otherwise I got more things to

1:42:23

think about than Final Fantasy 7. He can learn

1:42:25

how to read, and then he can learn curse

1:42:28

words like very early in

1:42:29

his life. I have a dime, you're...

1:42:32

Now see, what I would have liked... Death Star is coming

1:42:34

to killing. What I would have liked a little

1:42:36

bit more is if he decided

1:42:38

he was just going to do a colony drop. If

1:42:40

he was like... There you go. Ah, we're

1:42:43

out of... That's Mega Man X5. The Scopel

1:42:45

Gundam shaped like a sword.

1:42:47

He could do such a sick colony drop with

1:42:49

it, like... Right? I feel like the prior RPG,

1:42:52

X-Sor just kind of goes into Bowser's Castle.

1:42:55

You're not wrong, Victor. This does

1:42:57

get progressively better from

1:42:59

a visual standpoint. Yeah. Like,

1:43:01

the more stuff is a lot better. It's visually much more interesting

1:43:04

toward the end than it is in the beginning.

1:43:06

Yeah, it's really interesting.

1:43:08

It's like watching the original Harry Potter and

1:43:10

the kids grow up throughout. Oh,

1:43:12

yeah. But like, they're

1:43:15

growing, so you can tell when they shot...

1:43:18

Did early shots versus later shots because

1:43:20

sometimes their ages are different. Yeah.

1:43:23

Yeah. Yep. Like,

1:43:25

the kids' voices are changing by the end

1:43:27

of that movie.

1:43:32

Oh, another movie that came out in 2001, I might add.

1:43:36

Classic. Oh, goshy. Right?

1:43:38

Wow, yeah.

1:43:39

That dragon.

1:43:41

Also, out in 2001, Fellowship

1:43:43

of the Ring. It's

1:43:45

kind of a big year, wasn't it? It was a year.

1:43:48

Don't leave me, Gray. If it's

1:43:51

only me and Sid

1:43:51

left on this Earth, it's going to be real bad. Oh, she's doing

1:43:53

the work.

1:43:59

wave. And

1:44:02

then the Macarena.

1:44:04

Macarena.

1:44:12

They squashed my kidneys to paste.

1:44:17

My heartburn. Magic

1:44:20

Heartburn is back. It's radiating. Deus Ex

1:44:22

Heartburn.

1:44:42

There's something

1:44:44

about this plan that they are about to enact

1:44:46

that feels interesting to me

1:44:48

and I can't put my finger on it. It's

1:44:51

like they

1:44:56

have not explained what they are about to do here.

1:45:00

Or why she just climbed down the side.

1:45:03

I think I like that. I finally believe.

1:45:06

Any consumed by the elder brain

1:45:09

here? He

1:45:21

said the lesbian's word.

1:45:26

So he's going to fix

1:45:28

the...

1:45:28

He's being like the conduit?

1:45:31

He's being the conduit. Because...

1:45:35

Oh, he became Dr. Manhattan. Okay. Now

1:45:39

she's got cancer.

1:45:41

As

1:45:43

the woman, she is creating or something.

1:45:48

Yes. So,

1:45:51

the promise

1:45:54

of new life is the eighth

1:45:57

spirit that gives the hope to

1:45:59

rejuvenate. the world because

1:46:02

she it's

1:46:05

been cut out but

1:46:07

the eighth spirit is her unborn

1:46:10

child of course in her and Greg's

1:46:13

it is corn oh so she wait

1:46:15

what

1:46:16

her abortion is the savior of

1:46:17

the eight

1:46:20

she is pregnant like when they

1:46:23

they hooked up oh

1:46:26

in space

1:46:29

baby so baby

1:46:32

okay got she caught preggers when

1:46:34

they were having SpaceX yes

1:46:37

and when when in her dream

1:46:39

the spirit the

1:46:42

the phantom touched her obviously

1:46:44

if we see it resonate

1:46:46

with her womb and that

1:46:49

it is the frequency that they

1:46:51

needed to finish the wave for

1:46:55

and beaureth and the super saiyan

1:46:57

god thing when I whoever was pregnant

1:46:59

with pan and they're like oh yeah there's the eight super

1:47:02

saiyan power that we need and

1:47:03

and this is this is just life stream

1:47:05

stuff here that even the special effects on

1:47:08

the the the

1:47:09

it's

1:47:12

Eris doing the thing except yeah so we have

1:47:14

Donald Sutherland yeah tumbling

1:47:16

down tumbling down tumbling

1:47:18

down so that means final

1:47:21

fancy 7 imagery just

1:47:25

do frickin Final Fantasy 7 got geez

1:47:28

well I I think I like I

1:47:31

get

1:47:32

a adaptation of FF 7 would

1:47:34

be awful like I

1:47:37

I think I think dead

1:47:39

no

1:47:41

okay no but baby

1:47:44

wasn't artiste

1:47:46

I know for a fact

1:47:48

that in Final Fantasy 6 there

1:47:51

was that scene with the the

1:47:53

pregnant teens and he insisted on that being

1:47:55

there because his daughter had just been born

1:47:57

and so he was really into the whole like Rejuvenation

1:48:01

of life thing and oh yeah, it's done really well

1:48:03

in six. Yeah a little more Hackens

1:48:05

I guess that's his that's his whole deal. I Understand

1:48:09

that I understand where he's coming from I understand But you have to be careful

1:48:11

with a metaphor cuz it can come real cheesy real fast

1:48:14

Cuz this movie wasn't cheesy. Oh

1:48:19

We brought birds

1:48:21

back

1:48:22

There's my baby flying in the air My

1:48:26

baby has wings and beak

1:48:28

And then the metaphor

1:48:30

and then we get this real Metal

1:48:32

Gear Solid 1 ass Life

1:48:36

returning and the tundra and

1:48:39

then a beautiful vocal

1:48:41

ballad that is I

1:48:46

Really

1:48:47

If

1:48:50

you want to thank me I do make

1:48:52

ease cuz I've kind of the same sort

1:48:54

of song I

1:48:57

Wish so her baby is

1:49:00

the reason for all this.

1:49:01

Yes. Yeah the

1:49:04

potential for new life is

1:49:07

Always the thing that will

1:49:09

that will keep

1:49:10

the plan is very it's very Japanese

1:49:13

Yeah, it it just ends there

1:49:16

Yeah

1:49:18

That's it. There are still other people

1:49:20

on the earth, right? Like it's not just Sid

1:49:23

and aki Yeah, now. Oh, yeah. No,

1:49:25

it goes baby there. There

1:49:27

is still all of New New York

1:49:30

Everybody woke up and went wow,

1:49:32

New York or old New York New

1:49:34

New York the the the

1:49:36

old New York the New York that is in

1:49:38

the bubble did wasn't completely

1:49:41

decimated

1:49:43

Yeah, there was

1:49:45

Yeah

1:49:50

I would love

1:49:52

I'm

1:49:54

really upset that we don't have any Like

1:49:58

interviews with Kojima

1:49:59

around this time

1:50:02

of the like, hey, you're the guy

1:50:04

who's supposed to be doing video game movies.

1:50:07

Like, isn't... I would

1:50:10

like to know what he was internally

1:50:12

feeling about Sakaguchi

1:50:14

becoming the Hollywood director.

1:50:17

And like, the... ah,

1:50:19

not so easy, is it? You know? Well,

1:50:23

there are a few different video game

1:50:26

directors who were

1:50:28

desperate to become movie directors and

1:50:30

ultimately did, and it didn't go super well.

1:50:33

No.

1:50:34

I don't know what I expected

1:50:36

from this, but that was a very

1:50:39

strange journey. Yeah,

1:50:41

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1:51:28

What are your thoughts, Nadia?

1:51:32

It had the potential to not be boring

1:51:34

as hell, but it was boring as hell. So,

1:51:36

eh, not exactly my favorite

1:51:38

video game movie by a long shot.

1:51:41

I started making fun of it pretty fast because I just

1:51:43

lost interest, to be honest.

1:51:46

Yeah, I would not say that I was invested in my

1:51:48

second watch-along of Final

1:51:51

Fantasy The Spirits Within. And I would

1:51:54

also say that I got kind of, they

1:51:56

spent a lot of time explaining

1:51:58

what the heck was going on with the spirits. and

1:52:00

everything but... And I still don't get

1:52:02

it. I didn't really follow what

1:52:05

the actual stakes were

1:52:07

by the end. Exactly. Yeah.

1:52:09

They were like... So I

1:52:11

knew that Ben Shapiro was trying to

1:52:13

nuke the spirits within,

1:52:16

but I wasn't entirely sure what

1:52:19

Aki Ross and her boyfriend were attempting

1:52:22

to accomplish on their end until the

1:52:24

very end. And even then it was still a little confusing. They made a baby.

1:52:27

They made a spirit baby, sure. They made a baby. I

1:52:30

did like the industrial design. Very anime,

1:52:32

as you said. Wait, I have a

1:52:34

question. How much time passed

1:52:36

between SpaceX and Space Baby? Oh, like,

1:52:38

I don't

1:52:39

know, a couple hours maybe

1:52:41

at the moment. She got pregnant fast. I

1:52:44

was going to say, usually conception takes three

1:52:46

days, approximately. It doesn't happen quickly.

1:52:48

Let's just say that it makes sense.

1:52:51

Look, Captain Grey Edwards just

1:52:53

built different, all right?

1:52:57

Well, and they had sex in space,

1:52:59

so the

1:53:02

baby's awakening is a new type anyway, so

1:53:04

yeah. Wait,

1:53:07

is that why there's new types in Gundam?

1:53:09

Sex in space? It's one of the

1:53:11

theories, right, for new types? I

1:53:13

feel like the new type stuff changes pretty frequently

1:53:16

throughout Gundam. They don't

1:53:19

explain it on purpose. Yeah,

1:53:23

so the Harvest Lunatic says the ending feels very

1:53:25

unsatisfying with so much left unknown. It didn't

1:53:28

feel like anything was solved. Well,

1:53:30

I mean, Victor, you said

1:53:32

that they cut out like a big part of the explanation

1:53:34

of what the heck was going on, right? Yeah,

1:53:37

they did a little bit. And

1:53:40

also, I think someone

1:53:42

earlier in the chat also said, is this going to have

1:53:44

like an ambiguous FF7 ending? Yeah,

1:53:48

it's kind of,

1:53:50

you know, they leave it a little

1:53:52

whatever.

1:53:52

You figure it out. It's kind of vibes-based

1:53:55

anyway. You figure it out if you're hot

1:53:57

shit.

1:53:58

So one thing...

1:53:59

I'm still confused about is that

1:54:02

the phantoms only started showing up

1:54:04

when the when the meteor hit right?

1:54:07

Yes, so phantoms

1:54:11

But like what made phantoms come out

1:54:13

of the crater in the first place? Why did that like

1:54:15

piece of rock start developing ghosts?

1:54:19

So they rode there the the that

1:54:21

was a chunk of the planet that

1:54:23

when it exploded it it

1:54:25

crash-landed on earth and yes

1:54:28

harbored the souls of the

1:54:31

dead on it and

1:54:33

and the ghosts just But

1:54:37

I guess what I'm saying is

1:54:38

Did those life forms always turn into

1:54:40

ghosts or did something happen to make them

1:54:42

start turning into ghosts when they died on

1:54:45

the rock? I think there's a disaster

1:54:48

on their planet. It's what was insinuating a

1:54:50

comet crashed to their planet They all died

1:54:52

and

1:54:53

all of their souls ended

1:54:55

up in the rock. Yeah angry

1:54:57

souls Okay, and then because

1:54:59

they were angry souls they

1:55:02

started coming to as phantoms Yeah,

1:55:05

so what I guess I'm looking for like the inflection

1:55:07

point of why you know If

1:55:09

they died before and didn't become phantoms,

1:55:11

why do they die now and become phantoms? What makes

1:55:14

the important thing to know and what really

1:55:16

happened in the story is that Sakaguchi?

1:55:20

grew up in post-war Japan and

1:55:23

synthesized Eastern and

1:55:25

Western philosophy throughout his entire life

1:55:28

Yeah, so there's like there's

1:55:30

an element of yeah, there's a lot of

1:55:32

some like Buddhism and

1:55:34

like yeah There's some like I go.

1:55:37

Yeah, yeah and

1:55:41

Yeah, I think I think what he's

1:55:43

trying to do in all of his works

1:55:45

is try to synthesize

1:55:48

His his belief

1:55:50

system into something and it

1:55:53

so I can respect that. Yeah Yeah,

1:55:56

I enjoy that

1:55:57

not a good a movie director as a game director.

1:55:59

No

1:55:59

Takeaway is it's not as bad as

1:56:02

I thought it was going to be but it's also not good.

1:56:04

It's not like in the middle

1:56:07

Yeah, yeah, it's not memorable

1:56:09

at all. No. Yeah, it's

1:56:11

not like so bad. It's good or like I wish

1:56:13

it was either better or worse The

1:56:17

movie's place in history is more interesting than

1:56:19

the movie itself It's

1:56:22

not so bad that it's good like the Street

1:56:24

Fighter movie, but it's not actually good It's

1:56:27

in the middle date of Hawaii. Yeah I

1:56:30

think we're also listening to La Concille

1:56:32

now Awesome,

1:56:35

I just want to add that the the

1:56:37

my animatrix to show notes do

1:56:39

a Mari takeout The square pictures

1:56:42

animatrix short was actually a lot

1:56:44

better than this movie.

1:56:45

Yeah, I agree. Yeah

1:56:48

Yeah, I think it's place in in

1:56:52

RPG history is interesting I

1:56:54

think it's place as a creation

1:56:57

of squares is interesting and

1:56:59

specifically of Sakaguchi's and and

1:57:01

where he was at and Yeah,

1:57:04

that's being the stories He's obviously trying

1:57:06

to tell and thought that this would be the

1:57:08

medium to do it in and yeah

1:57:10

I mean ultimately it isn't

1:57:13

really unless he were a slightly better

1:57:15

storyteller and

1:57:17

Yeah, technology had caught up

1:57:19

to his ambition, you know and

1:57:21

the team's ambition

1:57:23

But I don't know I I think I don't

1:57:25

think it's a movie anyone needs to like

1:57:28

or or go to bat for but I I

1:57:30

do think it's kind of interesting and

1:57:33

I don't know.

1:57:34

I'm glad I was novelty. It's

1:57:36

an obvious. It's interesting. Yeah

1:57:39

Well, that was

1:57:41

our final fantasy the spirits within watch.

1:57:44

Thank you so much for joining

1:57:46

us on this Adventure I had

1:57:48

a great time. Thank you for your expertise

1:57:51

Victor. I had no idea that you had watched this

1:57:53

four times Yeah, I

1:57:55

cannot believe you did that Tracks

1:57:59

are pretty good I had a good time. That's

1:58:01

at least four. I mean, I'm happy. I'm happy you did that. You

1:58:04

brought that to the pod, but also. I

1:58:07

love that you listened to the commentary tracks.

1:58:10

How many? There has to be

1:58:12

only like a dozen people in the world that have listened

1:58:15

to those commentary tracks. So

1:58:17

well done you. Yeah, no, I love them.

1:58:19

That's why I still buy my Blu-rays is all

1:58:21

amazing. I'll buy anything I like

1:58:23

that has a commentary track. Commentary

1:58:26

tracks rule. It's a lost art and.

1:58:28

I agree. I'm pretty straying further from the light of God

1:58:30

every day.

1:58:32

Well, thank you so much to our Stars

1:58:34

of Destiny as well for joining us on this

1:58:36

walk along and watch along and suffering

1:58:38

through a few of the early technical

1:58:41

difficulties. We'll keep working

1:58:44

through this and figuring it out, but I thought

1:58:46

it went pretty well. We had a good time and would

1:58:50

like to keep doing this. We'll have to figure out the

1:58:52

next thing to

1:58:53

do a watch along for. It would be a

1:58:56

lot of fun, I think. In

1:58:58

the meantime. I

1:59:01

mean, especially when rebirth comes

1:59:03

out, it might be a good time to watch Advent Children because there

1:59:05

will be tie ins to it. Because

1:59:08

it also makes me want to go back and watch Kingsglaive

1:59:11

of all things just to see like the trilogy

1:59:14

of of Final Fantasy. Oh, see,

1:59:16

I saw Kingsglaive in theaters and

1:59:19

that was that was I remember doing

1:59:21

that for some reason. He saw it in theaters.

1:59:23

Yeah. Wow.

1:59:25

Look, I was reviewing

1:59:27

Final Fantasy 15 at the time. I had to

1:59:30

do my due diligence. And let

1:59:32

me tell you, 15

1:59:33

does not make any more sense if you

1:59:35

have seen Kingsglaive. What a surprise.

1:59:40

Well, I've been Kat Bailey. I hope you had

1:59:43

an amazing holiday. We'll

1:59:45

be back next week with a regular

1:59:47

episode. We'll

1:59:49

be back to our regular schedule. But until

1:59:51

then, for Nadia and Eric

1:59:53

and Victor and myself, thanks for listening

1:59:56

and happy adventuring.

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