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0:05
Hey,
0:07
it's your old pal Victor from the Edit Bay. You're
0:10
about to listen to a very special episode
0:12
of Acts of the Blood God. This is
0:14
our Final Fantasy The Spirits Within
0:17
Watch Along commentary track. Now,
0:19
you can watch this as a standalone episode
0:22
and it'll work just fine, but
0:25
if you want to listen to it the way the Blood God
0:28
intended, then watch along
0:30
with your 4K Blu-ray of The Spirits
0:34
Within that I know you all own.
0:37
If something has
0:38
you indisposed and it's not
0:40
on hand, which I understand,
0:42
I can empathize with, it'll work
0:45
with any version of the movie, whether you get it from
0:47
iTunes or YouTube
0:50
or
0:50
Apple TV or whatever.
0:53
It works with all of those. They're
0:55
all the same movie.
0:57
No compatibility issues here.
1:00
So if you want to skip ahead to the part where
1:02
we actually start the movie, we have a little
1:04
bit of preamble, but the movie itself
1:06
will start at 10
1:08
minutes and 8 seconds.
1:10
Or if you want to skip ahead to our final thoughts,
1:13
you can head to 1 hour 48
1:14
minutes 17 seconds.
1:18
But if you want to watch along with us,
1:20
which I highly recommend, go ahead
1:22
and pause your version of the movie
1:25
on the Columbia Pictures title
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card right around the time that the word
1:30
Columbia appears. Then
1:32
later on in the episode, Kat is going
1:35
to tell you exactly when you can
1:37
push play and it should all sync
1:39
up just fine like magic. So
1:42
enjoy this episode of Acts of the Blood God,
1:45
enjoy Final Fantasy The
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Spirits Within,
1:49
and we'll see you on the other side.
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Welcome to a special watch-along of the
2:11
Blog God. I am your host, Kat
2:13
Bailey. Joining me is Nadia
2:16
Oxford.
2:17
Hello Kat. Very happy to be here on
2:19
this watch-along. I'm just kind of staring at
2:21
the Columbia chick, like that kind of opens up the movie
2:23
and it's like, yeah, she's got it going on, doesn't she?
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Eric Van Allen. You
2:28
know, I never really thought about the Columbia
2:30
light woman at this
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point, but yeah, yeah. All
2:35
right. Yeah. I think it's supposed
2:37
to be bad either. Okay, hold on now.
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And our pal and
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producer, Victor Hunter. Hey,
2:45
it's your old pal from the edit bay, Victor.
2:48
This week we'll be watching Final Fantasy
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Spirits Within, the
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classic of CGI that
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completely scuttled square pictures. Does
2:57
it hold up? I guess we'll find
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out. We'll be telling you just a
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second how to get
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to the beginning of this episode. We're going
3:06
to watch Final Fantasy, The Spirits
3:08
Within together. We're currently with the
3:11
stars of Destiny. We'll be providing
3:13
our
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commentary. At least
3:15
a couple of us, I think, are going in
3:17
fresh. I personally have not
3:19
watched this movie since
3:22
it came out in the year 2001.
3:25
Pretty amazing.
3:28
Victor,
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as someone who is very enthusiastic to
3:32
be on this show, what is your history with
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Final Fantasy, The Spirits Within?
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Well, I
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think everyone knows that I'm
3:42
a pretty big Final Fantasy guy.
3:46
This,
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however, has
3:49
eluded me completely until
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I watched it
3:55
four times last week. No
3:58
kidding. Four times.
3:59
Who is torturing you? Give us their name.
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Uh,
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I,
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I don't want to give away too
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much. Um, but there's some commentary
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tracks on the 4k Blu-ray and
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I found them compelling.
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Ah, I,
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uh, yeah, I'm, you know, I, I
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have a, uh,
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I have a predilection towards final
4:24
fantasy stuff, especially
4:28
as it branches out into other mediums.
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I always find that interesting. Um,
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and, uh,
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yeah, I, um,
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I'm,
4:39
I'm amazed that it took me this long to
4:41
finally watch it, but I'm glad
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I did. Um, and
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I'll share what I actually think about
4:48
the movie, uh, during, during
4:50
the stream.
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Excellent. Fair enough. Nadia,
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have you ever seen this movie?
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No, I have not. No way. How
4:59
did you miss this one?
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It was because I was so delusion
5:03
by it, by the time it came out and probably delusional
5:06
with final fantasy as well, that I was just like,
5:08
uh, I don't care. Here's the thing. I have
5:10
a fun story about this. Um,
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I had a friend, I have a friend who went
5:15
to Sheridan college in Ontario, which apparently
5:18
sent over or a bunch of graduates
5:20
went to go animate this movie over in Hawaii and
5:23
apparently their behavior was so bad that
5:26
they swore they would never hire
5:27
college ever again. This
5:31
is just a rumor. I have no idea if it's true.
5:32
It really sounds like it could absolutely be true. Like Canadians,
5:35
I guess when they kind of pop, they really pop off, but,
5:37
uh, yeah, there's that. And also,
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I think what kind of got me was
5:42
this movie took so long to come
5:44
out that by the time the CG, we
5:46
saw the CG for ourselves, it was not
5:50
novel anymore. Like do
5:52
any of you remember like the old Starship troopers
5:55
animated, CD animated cartoon?
5:57
My part.
5:59
That was a.
5:59
Really really good-looking CG cartoon
6:02
and when I saw that I was like, okay Like
6:04
we're already as good as the movie practically
6:07
So I know when
6:09
I saw the reviews and I said it kind of sucked and
6:11
it's like oh people are telling me It's really
6:13
not found a fantasy and I said I just
6:15
skip it for now. I was married and poor so Didn't
6:18
have the money anyway
6:20
And Eric this movie came out before you were born
6:23
Wait, no, no it didn't
6:25
I I Was
6:28
alive I just didn't see it Fair
6:31
enough. Well as I met so I guess
6:34
I'm
6:34
I'm the one who in some ways Saw
6:38
this one when it first came out because I was
6:40
that much of a Final Fantasy fan I was
6:43
I swept up in the hype for Final
6:45
Fantasy
6:45
the spirits within I thought
6:47
square could do no wrong I saw that really
6:50
cool CGI Teaser
6:52
and
6:52
I thought this movie
6:54
is gonna be Groundbreaking because
6:56
we had seen of course CG movies
6:59
by that time Toy Story come out in
7:01
the year 1995 and Pixar
7:03
was
7:04
fully underway by that point
7:06
But we hadn't seen it on the
7:08
level that square could do and
7:10
as we all saw in Final Fantasy 8 Square
7:14
was the master of CG or so
7:16
I thought
7:17
at the time of course we all know what happened
7:20
to Final Fantasy the spirits
7:22
within it was made on
7:24
a budget of 137 million
7:28
dollars and it ended up bringing in a
7:30
about about 85 million
7:33
dollars, which is not a lot
7:35
of money and it
7:38
was genuinely generally panned and
7:41
It killed square pictures
7:43
and arguably hastened the
7:45
merger between square and square Enix
7:47
a Little bit of
7:50
info for you. It came out
7:51
on July 2nd 2001 here
7:55
is the on IMDB
7:57
is described as a scientist makes
7:59
a lab stand on earth
8:01
the help of a ragtag team of
8:03
soldiers against an invasion of alien
8:05
phantoms. If that's not
8:08
Final Fantasy I don't know what is. Some
8:12
interesting absences
8:15
in this one.
8:15
Hiranobu sorry Nobuo Uematsu
8:18
did not do the music.
8:21
Instead we had
8:23
music by Elliot Goldenthal
8:26
much to the it was a bit of a
8:28
controversial decision shall
8:30
we say because of course Uematsu is the
8:33
musician that the voice
8:35
of Final Fantasy in some ways.
8:38
I think that
8:39
one
8:39
reason we're actually starting to see
8:42
good game movies is because directors
8:45
or game makers are realizing
8:47
hey maybe
8:48
I don't have to be a movie director maybe I can
8:51
be a video
8:51
game director you know I mean like it
8:54
just in this day and age I can't
8:57
see well I can see when when
8:59
one music being chosen or another like we have the Mario
9:02
movie you don't happen there but yeah
9:05
just that kind of decision in this day and
9:07
age like taking out Uematsu for a more
9:10
authentic quote-unquote
9:11
musician would be met with
9:13
a lot of anger not just like mixed results.
9:16
Rehearsals for the school play were really
9:19
coming along. Bigger smile Mr. Squirrel
9:21
until a custodian accidentally threw
9:23
away the costumes. Oh
9:26
no everyone was rattled.
9:28
Miss Scarity forgot how to play
9:30
and the Queen of the Hedgehogs almost
9:33
quit. The replacement
9:35
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9:38
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9:40
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It stars Ming-Na Wen,
10:19
Alec Baldwin, James Woods,
10:22
Donald Sutherland, and Steve Buscemi. Hell
10:27
yeah. Hell yeah. Hell
10:29
yeah. How do you do, fellow Spirits? And
10:32
all StarCats. How do you do, fellow
10:34
Final Fantasy fans? Amazing.
10:38
Alright, so we are going
10:41
to start at the
10:43
10-second mark. We're watching on
10:45
the Prime video version of
10:47
Final Fantasy Spirits Within.
10:49
You should be seeing the lady
10:53
who's standing with the holding up the
10:56
thing. You should see her. We're at the 10-second
10:58
mark right now.
10:59
And
11:01
so I'm going to count down. And
11:05
when you're ready, we're going to press
11:07
play. So, three, two,
11:10
one, go.
11:16
Okay,
11:18
so
11:21
I like this movie. Spoiler
11:26
alert. That is a good square, I have to admit.
11:28
Nice square. Let's vote
11:29
on that. Ten out of ten. Square
11:33
pictures. They have a good future in front of them.
11:38
Well, I mean, you must really like this movie if you've watched
11:40
it four times. There's
11:43
a lot of things I've done four times that I don't
11:45
necessarily love, but I
11:51
think it's perfectly competent in
11:54
a lot of ways. And
11:57
just as like a... as
12:01
a trailblazer of some
12:03
CG techniques, I think it's really
12:05
interesting. That's fair, yeah. I think it's
12:08
more Final Fantasy than
12:10
people were willing to give it credit for
12:12
at the time and... Oh, very much so.
12:15
Hironobu Sakaguchi. Oh, there's that eye. There's
12:17
the eye. That's a million dollars. Wow. There
12:21
it is. The
12:21
eye. Do we have subtitles on?
12:24
Do you want subtitles?
12:25
Probably should have them on. I can't hear as
12:28
well as I can see.
12:30
There we are.
12:32
Technology.
12:35
Worrying noise. Worrying noise. Now
12:38
we're talking. So
12:42
something that really struck me
12:45
the first time, and
12:48
I couldn't tell if it was because
12:52
I was just like... By
12:54
the end of the movie, I was just sort of in
12:56
it, but it feels
12:59
like it gets...
13:02
The CG gets better as it's
13:04
going on. It becomes a little less
13:07
jarring, and
13:09
watching one of the commentaries, it's because
13:12
they basically did it in
13:14
sequence, which is
13:16
wild. Like this shot we're about to
13:18
see is one of the very first things
13:20
they did. This was in production for
13:23
four years. That's
13:25
four years in late 90s, early 2000s time. So
13:29
the technology they were using by the time
13:31
they were at the end of the movie would
13:34
have
13:37
advanced so much.
13:40
You could see the... First
13:43
of all, yeah, no. CG technology
13:46
was increasing exponentially. But
13:49
also this still looks like a PS2
13:52
CG, maybe something that you would see in Xenoblade.
13:56
Xeno Saga.
13:57
Hey, it's your old pal Victor from the present
13:59
day. We had some technical
14:01
difficulties to sort out, so we have a few
14:03
seconds where there's not much going
14:05
on talking wise. So I'm just going to fill it in
14:07
with my own commentary after the fact. We're
14:11
going to see a Pepsi ad in a little
14:13
bit. And here's a visual gaffe
14:16
for y'all.
14:18
They put, it
14:19
looks like some normal mapping on the actual
14:22
ad so that like the Pepsi
14:24
logo casts a shadow. But
14:27
it shouldn't because the ad should be split.
14:29
So
14:34
put that in your
14:35
CinemaSins counter, you
14:37
nerd. I'll pop in
14:40
again a little later, but
14:43
that's it from me, present day Victor.
14:46
Bye, I love you.
14:49
Wow, old New York City. Old New York.
14:53
Something to think of a song. Even
14:55
old New York
14:57
was once a few minutes to answer them. Why
14:59
they changed it, I can say. People just liked
15:01
it better that way.
15:10
I think I just didn't want to file a fantasy with spaceships.
15:13
Yeah, it was a little weird with the sci-fi
15:16
and everything. Plenty
15:18
of Final Fantasy has spaceships. Yeah, you know.
15:21
Four has spaceships. No, they've always had spaceships. But
15:24
it was never overtly sci-fi in the same
15:26
way. Yes.
15:30
This is like a Gears of War movie. Yeah.
15:33
Yeah, they... It's
15:38
not a Gears of War movie until I see a
15:40
giant hunk of like meat
15:42
and just roadie running across the screen.
15:44
You're about to. Oh,
15:47
hell yeah. Here comes Barry. Some beefy
15:49
boys. Was that Seiko Watch
15:52
ad in movie advertisement? Probably.
15:55
At least it's not Colvin. Oh, there it is. Seiko
15:57
Watch.
15:58
in Times
16:00
Square has the most product
16:03
placement?
16:04
Well, it does make sense. You're gonna have it somewhere.
16:06
It's the place to have
16:07
it. Yeah. Wow. The CG
16:09
in this movie is just incredible.
16:12
I remember a lot of people complained about Uncanny
16:14
Valley, and that was definitely a problem at the time.
16:17
Victor from the present one more time, just gonna
16:19
sneak in here. We talk later
16:21
in this episode about the Hollywood
16:24
versus Final Fantasy identity
16:26
thing, and I think this movie
16:29
is really the logical endpoint
16:32
of Sakaguchi's synthesis
16:35
of Western and Eastern.
16:37
I mean, Final Fantasy 1 is so Dungeons
16:40
and Dragons and Wizardry and Ultima-inspired,
16:43
and FF11, around this same time,
16:46
he was trying to release
16:48
it in all territories at the same time.
16:50
He was using auto-translate features
16:53
that people around the world could play together.
16:56
The theme song is sung in Esperanto.
16:58
This really just does
17:00
feel like the movie
17:03
extension of his game design philosophy,
17:05
and I think if he had made another movie, it
17:08
probably would have been more fantasy forward than
17:10
this one is sci-fi forward. Okay, that's
17:12
it from me. Bye. So there was a reason that
17:14
Pixar didn't
17:16
go
17:18
with
17:19
CG characters, like
17:21
CG humans too
17:22
much. Yeah. That's because
17:25
they just looked too weird in CG. That's
17:27
why they went with toys and bugs and
17:29
monsters and everything.
17:31
The toys looked good, yeah. That's
17:34
what early CG was good at.
17:36
Oh, good, no textures.
17:38
I think
17:41
part of it was just that
17:43
MoCap just wasn't quite
17:45
good enough. Yeah. Like, you'll
17:47
see just about everything
17:49
in
17:50
this is a combination
17:53
of MoCap and
17:56
then them hand animating
17:59
everything that did.
17:59
didn't get picked up properly. So
18:02
like, like,
18:06
um,
18:07
the, all of their like individual
18:09
finger movements are all hand animated
18:11
because you just didn't have the fidelity
18:14
in, in the app at the time. So they'd
18:16
get, they'd get broad gestures
18:18
and broad movements and, and like the basis
18:21
of the blocking, but then they
18:24
ended up having to go in and do
18:26
everything individually frame by frame anyway.
18:29
So it was just, I think it's just
18:31
time consuming. Just technology
18:33
wasn't quite caught up to where they
18:36
needed it to be.
18:37
Yeah. They were really into that. Hell
18:39
yeah. Here we go.
18:42
Why, why are they landing in flubber? Okay.
18:46
I mean, this is,
18:48
this is the proto, the final fantasy 13
18:52
lightning does basically the same thing,
18:54
but with like her like gravity
18:58
snap thing, uh, uses
19:01
it in the intro to 13 and then never
19:03
again. Um, but I
19:05
love that. That's that feels like
19:08
such a good little.
19:10
And finally, a movie
19:12
that was a game that was released in 2010 looks so much better
19:16
than this movie. Oh, totally.
19:18
Like the gameplay looks way better than this movie.
19:23
I think the soldiers in this game have a, I don't
19:25
know if they used a model like this for
19:27
FF 14 and the dead ends sure looks
19:29
like the citizens. Um, it,
19:32
so all these suits, the,
19:34
were designed by, Ooh,
19:37
guy named, uh, something Sayama,
19:40
who was like a mechanical designer
19:42
for, uh, Eska Flownay
19:45
and designed a lot of the ships and tech
19:48
in cowboy bebop. And
19:51
like, like a
19:53
lot of, a lot of the design and storyboard
19:56
stuff was from anime
19:58
studios. Whereas
20:01
then the
20:02
actual animation itself was
20:05
done in Honolulu. Oh, I'm dead. Sorry. Wasn't
20:09
the statue. Yeah,
20:11
it's interesting. I mean, I know
20:13
that Square Pictures was based in Hawaii, but
20:16
it's interesting how much Hollywood
20:19
was involved versus the Japanese anime
20:22
movie industry. They
20:25
were doing CG and stuff then too, so. Yeah,
20:32
bad CG. I
20:35
mean, yes, they were doing absolutely atrocious
20:37
CG. Anime, the CG was
20:39
pretty awful. It's
20:41
not like America was doing better CG. I mean,
20:43
whatever.
20:45
It was definitely an era of
20:48
growing pains. They got a mile.
20:50
That fact they took a step or tried to anyway.
20:53
We had
20:55
Beast Wars. We had reboot.
20:59
I mean, Canada was making some pretty
21:01
choice stuff.
21:02
Beasties. Beasties. We can't say war
21:05
on air. Sorry, yes. We
21:07
can have a violent season
21:09
of reboot, but season
21:11
three and four, but we can't say war on Canadian television.
21:15
So I want
21:17
to say that we've had like
21:19
three nice little – there's
21:23
three things that stand out to me in this intro.
21:25
One is
21:26
like when she first fires the flare gun
21:29
that drops the particles that
21:33
then reveal the locations of
21:35
the phantoms if they come in contact with the particles.
21:38
I think that's cool. I think that's
21:40
a real like solid sci-fi
21:42
concept.
21:43
There's some people asking the chat if they could
21:45
turn it up the volume a bit. Is that possible without
21:47
making
21:49
it confusing? To do what?
21:51
To turn up the volume.
21:54
How's that?
21:56
Pretty good.
21:57
Makes it really loud on my end to where it's
21:59
hard for me to hear.
21:59
I hear you often. Oh,
22:01
I see. Right. You can turn
22:03
down the...
22:05
I'm doing some stuff on my end.
22:06
Yeah.
22:08
Okay. We're
22:10
doing this technology for the first time.
22:13
Much like square pictures. Go find for your own. Yes,
22:16
exactly. This is a pioneering technological
22:18
endeavor. We're learning on the fly much like square pictures.
22:23
I feel like this is pre-staging what Xbox 360
22:26
games would look like.
22:28
These are like the guys from Metroid,
22:31
the Metroid other M. Remember, Ruth?
22:33
I mean, I think
22:36
these suits especially really do
22:38
feel like Cycom officer
22:41
outfits in 13. Even some
22:44
of the guys in 8, like the
22:46
armored...
22:47
Also reminds me of Fallout.
22:50
Yeah. The iconic guards
22:52
in that, but a little slimmer.
22:55
This definitely does seem like a game that we'd be
22:57
playing in 2007. That's like a third person
22:59
shooter. Yeah,
23:01
totally. Everyone would forget about...
23:04
You'd see it now on YouTube, but like forgotten
23:06
games. It's like, oh, here's this game from
23:08
Squaresoft that nobody played. There
23:09
he is, Alec Baldwin.
23:12
How
23:15
you doing, dude? My dad saw him on the
23:17
street once in Toronto. He's just like, are you going to look
23:19
Alec Baldwin? He's like, yeah. And
23:22
he's like, oh, cool. Hi.
23:23
He's in a CG
23:24
voice movie, so presumably he won't
23:26
be able to accidentally shoot anybody. I'm
23:28
going to find a way. On
23:32
that subject, one of the things I like
23:35
about this setup... On that subject. In that
23:37
opening is the fact
23:39
that they come to save her, and
23:42
one of the first things they do is try
23:44
to shoot at ghosts, and
23:46
it
23:47
goes through them. Like you do. And
23:50
it shows how your
23:53
impulse is to shoot at it and
23:56
not remember that there's stuff behind
23:58
it. Flammable tanks by me. Yeah,
24:02
I mean that comes up a bunch, but I
24:04
like that that that's just
24:06
that's a that's a practicality of this world
24:09
that that's just something you have to consider
24:11
is that when you shoot shoot the bad guys you're
24:13
also going to hit the thing that's behind them. Make
24:16
the girl
24:17
is this death stranding.
24:19
We call
24:20
it Gears of War calling death Stranding calling
24:22
it everything the final fantasy.
24:25
It's like the same thing as death stranding though.
24:27
You've got like these kind of invisible ghost
24:29
enemies and everybody's living in little barriers
24:32
that keep them safe from them except for the
24:34
people that go on excursions out in there.
24:37
Yeah, man. And now we're going to Mega Man
24:39
X2. Oh,
24:43
this is a reener is really small. Actually, the
24:45
athletes. All right.
24:51
Hey, fuck you, man. I
24:53
also I also wonder if there
24:55
was because
24:57
they have the Pepsi product placement and
24:59
they had. Pepsi Pepsi before
25:02
with FF7, but
25:05
we all remember FF9, which
25:08
came out around the same time as this was
25:10
a Coca-Cola joint.
25:14
I don't remember that in Japan
25:15
or here. Well,
25:17
in Japan, but there was there was a big
25:20
lavish CG Final
25:22
Fantasy 9 Coca-Cola commercial that
25:25
used the FMVs where
25:28
everyone's celebrating and drinking Coke.
25:30
Like you do. That
25:33
guy's going to turn into a monster soon.
25:36
Wait, cool. That's how that works. I
25:38
assume.
25:42
Someone had something inside them. They
25:45
did that doodly doodly scan thing and it's like, oh,
25:48
no, it's red instead of green. So therefore,
25:50
problem.
25:52
Wait, there's
25:54
ghosts. I feel like I'm not grasping
25:56
the basic story. There's ghosts and
25:59
the ghosts.
25:59
ghosts have made it scary to live in the
26:02
rest of the world, but the ghosts can also
26:04
zombie you is what's happening? Yeah,
26:07
so the aliens,
26:10
aliens arrived on a comet
26:12
and they cannot fight
26:14
them because they sort
26:18
of are on another plane.
26:21
They're spooky ghosts, aliens
26:25
invading Earth and when they touch you,
26:27
it is a little bit
26:29
of a virus that influences your... It's
26:35
kind
26:35
of like Genova really.
26:38
Well, yes. It's
26:41
very Final Fantasy you might say.
26:46
Sounds like the other people in the saga. They
26:48
really were into the concept of
26:51
the thing coming down from space
26:53
and messing everybody up. Yeah. Even
26:56
Final Fantasy VIII had the sorceresses
26:59
who
27:01
lived in space.
27:02
They were just an obsession with that. Even
27:05
Mega Man X had like, oh, here comes a comet going to crash
27:08
into the Earth. I think it was like Armageddon and
27:10
Deep Impact were really big around that time.
27:12
You might not be wrong, honestly.
27:15
Everyone was really big into things slamming into
27:17
Earth for a while.
27:19
And I don't want to miss a thing.
27:24
Oh, they saved him or something.
27:25
So they shot it with a
27:27
laser that does not pierce skin
27:30
but can fry ghosts. Part
27:35
of what we're going to learn is that,
27:38
Cid, and they really
27:40
gloss over this,
27:42
after the alien invasion, this brilliant
27:45
scientist discovered, what's
27:47
it called, bioetherial energy.
27:51
Basically,
27:52
we all discovered that the
27:58
human spirit is...
27:59
energy and can be harnessed.
28:03
They don't really explain how or
28:05
why or what the
28:07
ramifications
28:09
were.
28:10
I'm actually trying to spell this as
28:12
a normie. It's like so RPG. It's like, okay, yeah, spirit, energy, whatever,
28:14
that's standard. I can just picture my father
28:16
watching this saying, what the fuck? Just being
28:19
angry at it.
28:21
But I mean, it is
28:23
Sakaguchi through and through. It
28:25
is
28:26
truly... We're going to
28:28
see a lot of a
28:31
lot of life stream parallels.
28:34
It's
28:35
a Sid.
28:36
We can't use the S word. We can't say Sid. That
28:39
is our Donald Sutherland Sid.
28:41
I think probably giving
28:44
the best performance in the movie.
28:47
I think he does a great job.
28:52
Where does he sit on the Sid pantheon?
28:57
It seems related to Kiefer Sutherland. I
29:00
forget. I don't know celebrities.
29:03
I don't know all the Sutherland's in Hollywood. I'm sorry.
29:05
It's like being able
29:07
to identify all the bald ones.
29:10
I think we owe our healthcare system to
29:12
a Sutherland. I'm
29:14
serious. I
29:16
could be wrong, Victor would know maybe because he's smarter
29:19
than me.
29:20
He is the father of
29:22
Kiefer Sutherland. That's right. The
29:25
father?
29:26
He campaigned for healthcare in Canada.
29:32
Sarden says this is the first thing
29:34
that with Steve Buscemi they ever
29:36
saw.
29:37
I can't remember the first thing I ever
29:39
saw with Steve Buscemi that I'm thinking about it.
29:40
Reservoir dogs, baby. Reservoir
29:43
dogs? That's a good maybe.
29:46
I
29:46
think there was something before that. He wasn't
29:48
in Problem Child, was he? No,
29:50
that was Kramer. God, that was a good movie.
29:54
Smoke. So they're giving us critical background
29:57
information about the spirits?
29:59
Yes, it's in a book.
30:03
This is where Sid
30:06
sort of explains, he has,
30:08
not only did he discover this bio-aetheric
30:11
energy, but he also has like
30:13
a holistic theory about
30:16
the nature of the universe and how
30:19
also the planet itself
30:22
has a similar energy. So
30:25
a light stream. Yes. Despite
30:29
the fact that the world as a whole
30:31
has completely adopted bio-aetherial
30:33
energy as a concept, they refuse
30:36
to acknowledge his theory that the
30:38
Earth is the same.
30:42
See, they could have just done like Final
30:44
Fantasy VII and had the, I don't know,
30:46
Final Fantasy VII knows it's ridiculous. This
30:49
is trying to take itself seriously.
30:52
I think Sakaguchi is always
30:55
kind of taking himself seriously. And
30:58
as a companion piece to Advent
31:00
Children, I think this movie is really interesting
31:03
too. Like they are doing
31:06
wildly different things and
31:09
some things that are exactly
31:11
the same.
31:12
Her legs are really long. I thought that was Ultraman
31:15
for a second.
31:15
I want that in.
31:21
Ultrampede.
31:23
What is that? When I was watching
31:26
this movie back in 2001, Nadia, I
31:28
mean, I agreed with you. I wanted them to adopt
31:30
Final Fantasy VII. Why
31:32
do they all look like Quagmire
31:34
after he discovers the internet has porn
31:36
on it? A right arm is a monstrous
31:39
construct. A
31:41
huge gigantic arm.
31:46
And yeah, Sakaguchi always did kind of play
31:48
that stuff straight, but something about seeing
31:51
the clouds, the spiky hair and the livestreams
31:53
forming Shinra at the end of it all.
31:56
Just there's a playfulness to it and well,
31:59
definitely. but ended whether everyone survived or not until
32:02
Advent children answered the question
32:03
for us.
32:05
I think the theory is that the reason
32:07
they didn't adopt Final Fantasy is that
32:09
there was a feeling that video
32:11
games weren't as good as movies. Exactly.
32:13
No, that's exactly what it was. Yeah,
32:15
this is pursuing a Hollywood
32:19
feel that wouldn't mesh.
32:24
They do, however, have a Zeus cannon, which
32:26
is basically the Joonan cannon, I guess. Yeah.
32:31
Also, this guy's named Dr. Sid with an S,
32:33
so he's clearly not a canonical Sid. He's
32:36
a bastard, Sid. The Dark Universe Sid. We're
32:40
also an uncanny valley Sid,
32:43
much like this is an uncanny valley movie.
32:46
Set of darkness hanging
32:48
out in Shadowbringers.
32:50
Physical attacks have no effect, but emotional
32:52
attacks on the comet, devastating.
32:56
Dude, you're bald. So can you say it?
32:59
Lose those 50 hit points. There's a lot of
33:01
square jaws and white men in this
33:04
room. I
33:06
mean, we were. There are some
33:08
people who are not late here. In this scene,
33:10
we are introduced to Keith David's
33:12
character, Yay, and James
33:15
Woods's character, Boo. Yeah, Keith David.
33:17
He's like, he's
33:19
around even in regular Final Fantasy games, isn't
33:22
he? Like he's done chaos into Sidious, I'm
33:24
thinking
33:24
of. Chaos into Sidious. I can't
33:26
think off the top of my head another
33:29
actor who has been two different
33:32
Final Fantasy characters.
33:35
He also does the narration for, there
33:37
was a WWE documentary I watched that
33:40
he narrated. It's very
33:42
distinct voice. I always liked it. It's very soothing.
33:44
There
33:44
he is, Keith David.
33:47
And we're also about to
33:49
see a Blinken, you'll miss it,
33:52
Sakaguchi cameo.
33:54
Why do you
33:56
look like Jack Nicholson?
33:59
is sitting on the far right
34:02
of the like council
34:04
table. I think
34:06
we'll see him right here.
34:11
There he is in the far back.
34:13
Oh there he is. This
34:16
guy thinks the planet is a soul, dumbass.
34:20
Stupid idea.
34:24
Mr. Hazan, why are you
34:26
married to Mrs. Hazan? Why?
34:30
He's Jack Nicholson, why? I'm going
34:32
crazy. He's got the evil, he's
34:35
got the bad guy eyebrow. Jack is going to say
34:37
no, he's a bad guy. He's got the glove too. It's
34:39
yeah, black gloves, trench coat.
34:41
I think he seems very trustworthy.
34:45
It's comical how stereotypically
34:50
evil they make him look. He's
34:52
not like shooting the planet. They don't need
34:55
to because he's got like,
34:57
I don't know, he's, I
34:59
think he's kind of justified
35:02
in a lot of whatever.
35:07
The villain was right all
35:09
along. Oh boy, Splatoon.
35:16
Oh now they ruined the game.
35:21
Boy, they're spending a lot of time debating this.
35:24
Well, it's all easier to animate it. I
35:26
guess so. People standing still.
35:31
You know what I love
35:32
in movies? I
35:34
really love debates
35:36
in front of consoles. Those are my favorite. Yeah,
35:40
that was the best part of the Star Wars prequels like that
35:42
just like blew my mind.
35:44
This guy's forehead is huge. I
35:50
like that.
35:50
I like that. I like that. I like that.
35:52
Next on the console agenda, the
35:54
taxation of trade routes. Democracy
35:58
dies in the darkness.
36:08
This is the most Where's My Paycheck room that's ever
36:11
been animated.
36:13
All right, we're going to have a 400- I
36:16
know. They
36:17
came up with the whole celebrity
36:20
cast before the celebrity cast
36:22
for a thing, really. Yeah.
36:24
And before the celebrity cast knew what the hell the video game was.
36:27
Was this the same year
36:28
that Shrek came out?
36:29
It is, yeah.
36:31
That looks like Shrek stuff that's in that globe.
36:35
Somebody could look like Shrek Swamp, who cares?
36:39
I mean, really? Shrek
36:42
is more cartoony, but it looks better than
36:44
this.
36:45
Shrek looks great.
36:46
Still looks pretty good. I mean, it looks all right.
36:48
You're watching without a problem. Yeah. The
36:50
way that the characters move are almost like marionettes,
36:53
but- Yeah. I think when
36:55
it comes to the human characters in Shrek
36:58
versus this, I think this holds
37:00
up a little better, but obviously, just
37:03
the direction of Shrek lends
37:06
itself a little better to this era
37:08
of tech. Yeah.
37:10
Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice
37:12
I'm willing to make. She's
37:14
got a ghost goop inside her. She's got
37:17
a ghost goop inside her. As we all do. Okay.
37:19
There's damn incubi up to their shenanigans.
37:21
I do like the industrial
37:24
design in this
37:25
movie.
37:28
That does look cool.
37:29
Absolutely.
37:31
You can tell that they really thought a lot about
37:33
it. Is this where the anime, it's like
37:35
storyboarding and everything comes into play?
37:37
Yeah.
37:38
Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
37:40
there's also the fact that yes, this was mostly a Western
37:43
movie, but definitely Japan
37:45
had a huge hand in it as well. I think back then, we
37:47
weren't really as open to Eastern
37:50
movies and their style
37:52
of directing is a little slower, a little more purposeful.
37:56
Some people still don't like it. I like it very much.
37:59
I have like an hour and a half of it.
38:02
I start to get a little tired I think that
38:04
the the industrial design definitely
38:07
leans heavily into the anime
38:09
like I see you where a lot of it goes
38:11
in the shell in the lake totally. Yeah,
38:13
especially everything. Yeah Even
38:16
even the concept of this city that
38:18
is protected by the barrier You
38:22
know that that is that just feels
38:25
Anime as hell That's
38:28
how all the enemies and RPGs
38:30
start you're behind the wall why you'll
38:32
find out. Yeah, I
38:35
Keep harping on this point, but
38:38
this reminds final fantasy. Oh, God
38:40
within that line delivery. I'm sorry
38:45
Maury baby is Possibly
38:47
the worst performance in this film.
38:50
It's it's just
38:52
dismal. He gets the worst lines. Absolutely
38:54
awful You
39:03
All these people seem like delightful
39:06
folks that I would want to hang out with I'm
39:13
sorry
39:15
Another fighting marriage
39:17
is over. She's taking the dog.
39:19
I
39:21
Was gonna say the ghosts the
39:25
ghost dogs You
39:29
can have the ghost dog on weekends
39:39
Even this like
39:40
Jack black or blackjack or other the
39:43
manga. We have scalpel inside of him. Oh,
39:46
yeah
39:51
Yeah, there are some
39:53
some parts of Mino
39:56
and performance that I think are
39:58
are fantastic
39:59
And then
40:02
some bits that really just kind of fall flat,
40:05
which is too bad because I
40:08
think she's great. So the world is devoid
40:10
of life, but it slowly seems to be coming back
40:12
or –
40:14
I'm not sure. It's
40:17
trying to in some places,
40:19
yeah.
40:23
So it's like the world is damaged and
40:25
it's trying to heal itself. But again, FS7, is
40:27
that kind of what I'm getting
40:29
here?
40:30
Yeah. Togaya.
40:36
I'm guessing dead people, spirit energy
40:38
heals the planet. When I was
40:40
watching this, I definitely got the sense
40:43
of – the life stream
40:45
aspect of it definitely stood out to me. Yeah.
40:49
And just the – we
40:51
have to collect eight spirit –
40:56
we have to collect the eight spirits that have the frequency
40:59
that resonate that we can use to neutralize
41:01
the threat.
41:03
That's a very video game plot, isn't it? Very.
41:06
It really
41:09
is. In the late 2000s, there
41:12
was a phenomenon in which Japanese developers
41:15
would try and
41:17
westernize their various
41:19
franchises. For example,
41:22
Bionic Commando is a good example. Devil
41:26
May Cry. And Final Fantasy
41:29
Spirits was in with the Trailblazer in that way. No
41:33
bad CGI kiss. He hates to see it. Oh,
41:36
don't you worry. I'm not even better than
41:39
Baldur's Gate, my dragonborn, trying to kiss anybody.
41:42
It looks like he's eating their head. I
41:45
mean, Togaya, that
41:47
is the way. Apparently. There
41:51
could only be one way with your character. Fair.
41:57
Rawr, rawr.
41:59
You can set your watch too.
42:01
Keeping with the Xbox 360
42:04
comparisons, this movie is very brown.
42:07
It is. I've noticed. Yeah, quite. Which
42:10
is probably, I would imagine animating
42:12
colors would be a little more difficult back then. Or
42:16
consume a lot more memory. Well,
42:18
I think,
42:19
here's my thought. If
42:22
you re-rendered this movie,
42:25
but with
42:28
ambient occlusion and better
42:30
particle effects, you
42:33
don't even need to do anything to the models
42:36
necessarily, but lighting
42:38
and special effects that
42:41
have
42:42
had the developments that
42:45
they've had in the last 22 years.
42:48
I think this
42:50
movie would hold up visually
42:53
a lot better. Yeah, I think
42:55
you're right. Because, you know,
42:58
shadows are very flat.
43:00
I think it
43:04
just wasn't there. It just wasn't there at the
43:06
time. Also, all of the characters
43:08
outside of Aki Ross look like basically
43:11
male Shepard from Mass Effect 1. Thank
43:14
you. I was noticing. I can only tell apart
43:16
from their eyebrows. The
43:18
evil one has the mean eyebrows, and the nice one
43:20
has the square eyebrows. The thing I really
43:23
appreciated in that last scene was they're in the middle
43:25
of an alien apocalypse that
43:27
is destroying the Earth. But that dude
43:30
kept his college diploma and framed
43:32
it and brought it with him so he could hang
43:34
it on the wall in his office. Love that. It's
43:37
also next to the statue
43:39
he has of his world-ending cannon
43:42
that he keeps on his desk. He seems on
43:44
the floor. He's got a replica of
43:46
his weapon of mass destruction. I
43:50
got this diploma from the University of American
43:52
Samoa. Go, land crabs. And
43:54
I will support them until the end of time.
43:57
This is where I learned my science.
43:59
are fighting.
44:02
Back then they kind of animated boobs
44:03
like as separate kind of like
44:06
apartments whereas just let's
44:08
be mono boob. There's a
44:11
big thing about that and
44:13
reboot like in America they wouldn't let the
44:16
like mainframe show dots like
44:18
individual boobs like they are on what's her face
44:20
here but so that's why she had
44:22
to have the mono boob as it's called.
44:24
Yeah and all the aliens have
44:26
terrible posture but then but then
44:28
the mono boob especially in reboot just
44:30
makes it look like she's stretching
44:33
her shirt like like grapes
44:35
in Saran wrap like 90s comic
44:38
book yeah just
44:40
makes them look that much more absurd.
44:43
What Disney ride is this?
44:46
I remember that shot of her falling back
44:48
from all the trailers at the time that
44:51
was yeah that was in every. You can tell what shots
44:53
they made for trailers. Yeah. There
44:55
was also the one where you're looking
44:57
down under her feet. Yeah. That
44:59
was one that popped up in the trailers a lot.
45:02
Yeah.
45:03
And they're like this is a dream sequence we
45:05
can make as crazy as we want. This is
45:07
where all the big trailer shots go. Anyone
45:10
from Tucson in the chat?
45:14
Tucson. Tucson Arizona.
45:17
The Tucson wasteland it doesn't look any different
45:19
than that. I was going to say that's just what Tucson looks like
45:22
right now. Hey we're
45:24
just having fun. Shout out to
45:26
everybody from Tucson out there. We appreciate
45:28
you. Shout out to our Tucson listeners.
45:31
Our burgeoning Tucson fan base. Well
45:35
we just alienated all the Arizona fans.
45:39
Your sunsets are very pretty.
45:41
They are actually.
45:44
I actually really enjoyed Flagstaff so there.
45:47
I hate the desert but I
45:49
like the sunsets.
45:51
That's it.
45:53
I was thinking about how at
45:56
the beginning of the decade
45:58
we get. Aki. At
46:01
the end of the decade, we get Lightning.
46:03
And
46:04
how those are two characters, two female leads
46:07
in Final Fantasy who are, you
46:09
know, they're not sexualized
46:12
really at all.
46:14
Wasn't Aki in Playboy or something? Well
46:16
yes, she did have a spread in Maxim.
46:19
Oh geez. I do want to point
46:22
out, I do want to point out that
46:24
in Lightning Returns, they explicitly
46:26
made Lightning's
46:28
bus line bigger to appeal
46:30
to the dudes. Yeah, but that
46:32
was in 2013, 2014? Yeah,
46:37
I just say that. And they went with brain worms. But that character
46:39
was eventually sexualized. Also they made- Victor
46:41
just made a point where you're like, no, no, actually no.
46:44
The creation of Lightning also
46:46
was explicitly so they can make
46:48
a female cloud. That
46:50
was pretty much it. Well
46:52
they missed the point of cloud. What if cloud but
46:55
girl? The male drive
46:57
to create the female cloud.
47:01
But we have these- We
47:06
have the technology. Female
47:08
leads that bookend the decade. And right
47:10
in the middle, we have FF10-2,
47:12
which is
47:15
just
47:15
girls dressing up like-
47:18
I loved it. Like girls going out to the
47:20
club. And that is the
47:22
one, that is the female led Final Fantasy
47:26
from the 2000s that has
47:29
stayed in the
47:31
mind of people the most
47:33
and has been looked back on the most fondly.
47:36
Is the cheesecakey girls- Yeah.
47:38
Oh yeah. It's the Shania
47:40
Twain Let's Go girls RPG. It
47:43
is fantastic. Someday
47:46
we will do a panty in the Final Fantasy X-2
47:48
and it will be good. It's so good. Let's
47:50
do a panty in the final fantasy. We're going to do panty in
47:52
the Final Fantasy- Shania Twain
47:54
Pantheon. I love parakeet
47:57
people. I think you might have your boots been under
47:59
number one or-
47:59
I'd
48:04
watch that
48:10
come on everyone we're getting losers we're
48:12
going on spirit quest
48:18
so is this like a planet with life on it hard-brained she
48:25
was like burped about
48:29
our remeters that wait
48:32
turns out that the final spirit is toms
48:35
yeah for me is gab is gone
48:37
I gotta have a real heavy do stuff plus
48:39
my prescription medication
48:55
his backpack is the seventh spirit
48:57
those
48:59
mine I guess got like
49:01
candy in there a good a
49:03
good Herschel little
49:06
get through the apocalypse here
49:12
we go is so
49:16
they eat the spirit that made disappears for good
49:18
ok wait hold on
49:20
yeah happens to people
49:23
and yet general do this like you the earth
49:25
can't have a soul don't ask Oh
49:32
harperings back again fucking
49:34
chilly Wendy's curse you
49:37
got a little even
49:42
you got that right I think I think it was one
49:44
of the the general's lackeys that got
49:46
sent on the trip yeah yeah
49:48
one of the faceless ones that they
49:51
don't want to start I'm so sorry
49:54
red shirts will be red shirts yeah
50:00
Super fighting robot. We'll back
50:02
up, oh, back up.
50:03
This
50:09
is a pretty cool monster design.
50:11
Yeah, it's all right.
50:13
I like snakes. That's another thing that this movie
50:15
is missing, is the Final Fantasy monsters.
50:18
Yeah, for sure. We have the iconic
50:20
menagerie, and we're going
50:22
to just have pretty generic spirit
50:25
monsters. They can have like a visor
50:27
now. I mean, I want to call them generic,
50:29
but...
50:31
Does Bahamut show up in this movie?
50:33
I don't think so, no. I don't think
50:35
they have any summons. It's
50:38
interesting that you say that, because
50:41
I did learn something in one of
50:43
the commentaries. I'll bring it up closer to the
50:45
end. There's
50:49
actually a point where Aki says,
50:51
come to me, Efreet, and it was actually
50:53
just a portent of future
50:55
Final Fantasies to come. Come to me, Dark
50:57
Warriors. Battle awaits us.
51:03
I
51:03
have to go to the spirit hospital to step on it.
51:10
Oh, no. This scene
51:12
also has one of those things where I'm like, oh, yeah,
51:15
if all of the things are true about this
51:17
world, then what else is true,
51:19
and what does that mean
51:21
you can do? And this has
51:24
one of my favorite examples of that. It'll come
51:26
up in a second when Steve Buscemi starts doing some
51:29
fun piloting.
51:39
So, y'all
51:41
got any video games, or what?
51:44
Let's go stand here.
51:46
It's a tableau.
51:50
I always kind of annoyed when soldier
51:53
figures like that, like that weird bug thing, are
51:55
identical. And there's just nothing at all
51:57
to kind of tell them apart. One
52:00
won't have like, you know, a bent part
52:02
here or a missing part there. They're always look just exactly
52:04
the same.
52:04
It's called a hive my
52:07
Nadia. He lost this. It's
52:10
my least favorite. It's definitely my least favorite
52:12
kind of enemy. The, the horde. The
52:15
horde. Yeah. It's just very boring. Yeah.
52:18
Oh, well, now they're burning. Not exciting to fight, I would say.
52:21
Oh man. Imagine,
52:23
oh, you have nightmares.
52:29
Oh, let's go fight,
52:31
fight, fight.
52:34
Yeah.
52:38
Who is driving? There's driving.
52:40
Here we go. I, I appreciate,
52:43
I appreciate this a lot. Whoever
52:45
storyboarded this deserves
52:47
a,
52:51
this is very matrix right here.
52:53
It is extremely, the hovercraft
52:55
flying through the tunnel and
52:57
everything.
53:00
Here we go.
53:08
You know, I'm something of a pilot myself.
53:13
Yeah. Excuse me. Flew
53:15
through a ghost.
53:18
Nope. To kill the bad dude. Ghost
53:21
poisoned.
53:23
Lending new meaning
53:25
to ghost ride the whip, you know.
53:31
And some of these, like, so
53:34
a lot of these backgrounds are matte paintings, which
53:36
I also, like, yeah,
53:39
some of them are really beautiful.
53:44
The ghost really dig her. You
53:48
should probably throw her out. You
53:55
should jack Nicholson. I
53:57
don't want to smell you. Dr. Sid's.
53:59
wave theory.
54:01
This guy, I
54:03
love this guy kind of looks
54:06
like a very well known
54:08
Vancouver CBC
54:10
reporter.
54:14
Serious? You're not Peter Mansbridge.
54:17
No, no. He
54:20
looks quite a bit like
54:22
if Vancouver's
54:26
CBC reporter Justin McElroy were.
54:29
Oh, I know McElroy because
54:31
he gets mixed up with the other Justin
54:33
McElroy. The other Justin McElroy.
54:34
The other Justin McElroy get tips about dead bodies
54:37
and sewers because they think it's the other McElroy. Yeah.
54:40
So they're friends actually. It's really funny. Yeah. So
54:42
they're going to implant the seventh spirit directly
54:45
into her chest plate,
54:47
giving her new
54:48
abilities
54:50
and a very large stat boost.
54:57
This was an RPG all along. See when
54:59
the bullet, when the bullet hits her
55:01
chest plate, it actually just created a
55:03
materia slot. I
55:07
don't understand. You don't have to understand
55:09
is the perfect summation of this movie. There's
55:14
a lot of, there's a lot of explanation
55:17
and very little of it seems to matter
55:19
very much.
55:20
Yeah. It's very 90s
55:22
RPG in that regard. Okay.
55:24
So now they're going to like drift with
55:26
each other. Yes. It's the flirting
55:28
bed.
55:32
The flirt Tron 2000.
55:34
Yeah. Why was, why was that built
55:37
the two hospital beds that can then
55:41
get your husband and wife dying together or partners.
55:43
Well, you see Catholicism
55:45
first started back in.
55:50
Sardin says, Aki like Tara becomes
55:53
more powerful after a coma. Hey,
55:57
this is like the first splash of color we've seen all
55:59
move.
55:59
Yeah.
56:01
It's kind of greenish instead of brownish.
56:04
Yeah. We're
56:07
dreaming, dumbass. That's a lot
56:09
of time and dreams. Nani?
56:14
Nani?
56:16
You made us.
56:20
I'm actually kind of curious what the Japanese
56:22
voice dub was like. Yeah.
56:25
Yeah. I
56:27
bet it is.
56:31
I find that Japanese voice actors, they
56:33
can always jazz up even a bad script.
56:36
I know that there tends to be tropes with certain
56:39
voice types, but the acting
56:41
for Japanese scripts I find rarely fails. It's
56:43
always
56:44
full of energy. Hey, don't
56:46
screw. Hey. That plan's kind of rare and valuable.
56:48
Yeah. It's a lot on a... I
56:51
like that leaf.
56:53
That leaf was trying its best, man. And
56:56
what am I watching, Major? It's called
56:58
Bluey. Everyone really likes
57:04
it. Something about the artifacting
57:06
on the dream recordings, I appreciate.
57:09
I like that... Yeah. Very
57:11
much time. Yeah. Really glad that it
57:13
always records the alien past
57:15
dream and not the freaky sex dreams, you
57:19
know?
57:20
That's in the other folder labeled
57:23
Tax Returns 2015. Work.
57:27
Just work.
57:38
And they're running
57:38
again.
57:41
And the Vikings are charging down the
57:43
field.
57:49
I'll go miss a field goal like always. I
57:52
like the intro to...
57:54
To all of my children.
57:56
Yeah.
57:58
To life's love.
58:08
with a similar apocalyptic
58:11
ending.
58:13
Here comes DalaMood.
58:20
Do these bug robots remind
58:22
you of anything?
58:23
They remind me of the space pirates
58:25
from Prime, Metroid Prime. Yeah.
58:28
Yeah, that's a good comparison. Yeah, yeah.
58:34
Those remind me of the space pirates from Prime. Now that's the deep
58:36
fire, baby. Yeah. Ooh.
58:39
God. Jafaroth.
58:41
Oh,
58:45
now it's the...
58:47
Deeply unsettling about seeing an eyeball
58:49
in there. I don't know. Yeah, totally.
58:52
I genuinely... Eyeballs
58:54
are fucked up. You ever think about that? Yeah. I
58:57
try not to think about that. Watching an eyeball
58:59
burn is a pretty unpleasant
59:02
visual. It's
59:07
coming right for us.
59:09
Or is that their planet? Their
59:11
planet exploded. Wait, I'm sorry. Was
59:14
it just like a comet ripped through
59:16
the planet? Is that what happened?
59:18
It was a bunch of people holding onto each other. I don't know. Maybe
59:20
it was... I just missed
59:21
the image there. Oh, man. That's
59:23
a fucked up thing. If my planet was exploding, I'd
59:26
simply just hold onto everyone around me.
59:28
Like a bundle of ants when they're in
59:30
trouble and they kind of just
59:31
like go bunch up around the queen. So
59:35
do... Would you say that this movie
59:37
has airships? We
59:41
see the various flying things count as
59:43
airships? I would
59:44
say it has belt
59:46
buckle collars for some reason.
59:50
Nobody move. Everybody's
59:52
under arrest in this movie. This
59:55
club is closed forever.
1:00:03
Oh, I'm drinking the brandy. Where did he get the brandy
1:00:05
in apocalyptic world? I don't know. It doesn't matter.
1:00:07
I'm drinking the brandy. That's good apple
1:00:09
juice. I shouldn't
1:00:14
have taken that urine test and I was so dehydrated.
1:00:16
Doctors could be pissed, so
1:00:19
to speak.
1:00:24
Wow.
1:00:25
Paper photo.
1:00:32
Yeah, it's what I think it's, I think
1:00:34
this is set in 2065. Yes.
1:00:37
We're
1:00:40
not that far away. Yeah. We will probably
1:00:42
survive. I
1:00:46
might live long enough to live in the world of Final
1:00:48
Fantasy spirits within. I probably
1:00:51
wish I was dead. To your spirit
1:00:53
yanked. Yep. That would
1:00:55
be pretty cool already. Usually you have to pay for that.
1:00:58
Oh, this is Final Fantasy 7 is F. Oh
1:01:00
my lord. Holy cow. Great
1:01:03
matte painting too. I think that's really...
1:01:05
It's like the kind of painting I'd love to own, but it
1:01:08
probably also sold off by now.
1:01:10
Or trashed.
1:01:12
Major, arrest these men. You
1:01:15
can't just keep arresting everyone. We
1:01:17
don't have... Let's just lose ourselves. We've
1:01:21
been putting them in closets with a chair in front
1:01:23
of the door. This is the ultimate pop.
1:01:25
He just loves arresting people.
1:01:29
I'm afraid to act. And if they won't take
1:01:32
action, we'll arrest them too.
1:01:35
Oh god, I have no idea what I'm hitting
1:01:38
here. Well,
1:01:41
you can really see the anime storyboarding
1:01:43
here. Yeah.
1:01:44
Oh, that's an anime shot right there.
1:01:47
Totally.
1:01:57
Everything's going to be fine, I'm sure.
1:01:59
to say that so menacingly? My
1:02:02
false flag operation is going to go without
1:02:04
a hitch. Don't worry.
1:02:06
Where's the can? I don't know. I think I'm in
1:02:08
trouble. I
1:02:14
love it when they put troublemakers together in a cell.
1:02:17
You people are aspiring. You can all
1:02:19
sit together in this room and we'll let you talk. Here's
1:02:22
some terrible, terrible Buscemi. He
1:02:31
likes fat, thick fandom. He's a comic
1:02:33
relief. The
1:02:36
one who came over last night had a booty the size
1:02:39
of two basketballs. Fateful
1:02:42
together. I
1:02:56
wrote not in the meteor. Get in loser. We're
1:02:58
going in the meteor.
1:03:11
They all died. Someone
1:03:14
touched the bar. I give you ten bucks if you lick the bars. I
1:03:18
get to keep my ten bucks, don't I? Think
1:03:30
of the dream, Gary God.
1:03:36
I knew it. Creepy, spooky
1:03:38
ghosts. I called it. They're phantoms.
1:03:44
Are we supposed to say these
1:03:47
are phantoms and be surprised when we're told they're
1:03:49
ghosts? Is that what we were supposed
1:03:51
to happen?
1:03:52
That's the big reveal. They're
1:03:55
flipping through the sores
1:03:57
for different versions.
1:03:59
of the same word they've got ghosts, fannoms,
1:04:02
spirits, we're gonna get illusions
1:04:05
next, aprolations, fansions, ghouls,
1:04:10
ghasts, we do have a lot of
1:04:12
good for girls don't we? We walk in goblins, ghouls,
1:04:15
zombie with no conscience.
1:04:18
Welcome to grade four writing class of Miss
1:04:20
Garelik.
1:04:29
I actually did have a Miss Garelik, everyone called her Miss
1:04:31
Garelik. Miss Garelik?
1:04:33
Because
1:04:34
now you always have shitposting names
1:04:36
for your teachers, right?
1:04:40
Oh, it's Leviathan.
1:04:41
So wait, did we
1:04:43
determine that we can shoot the fannoms?
1:04:46
It's like Americans shooting into hurricanes.
1:04:49
Oh man.
1:04:50
Oh my heart. He
1:04:52
gets got by friendly fire because
1:04:55
they were trying to shoot through a ghost.
1:04:59
Like dumbasses.
1:05:02
Oh, that's the end of me.
1:05:06
So what I
1:05:08
think I eventually figured out is
1:05:10
that weaponry that is powered by
1:05:13
the bioetheric energy does
1:05:16
have the ability to destroy fannoms.
1:05:21
But just shooting
1:05:24
at them probably not gonna do much. Shooting at them isn't gonna
1:05:26
do anything. You're just gonna hit the thing behind
1:05:28
it. The CG fire is a little better. Yeah,
1:05:33
it's weird how
1:05:35
different it is in certain scenes. So
1:05:38
it's like Final Fantasy 7 in other words where
1:05:40
you have wildly variable quality. Final
1:05:43
Fantasy 7 reference. Wildly
1:05:47
disparate quality in
1:05:49
your CG.
1:05:52
Sardin says, I wish this movie had
1:05:55
some swords somewhere. I
1:05:57
didn't take out some swords now and start beating each other with it.
1:06:02
I
1:06:03
don't disagree. I wish this movie
1:06:05
also had some I also wish this movie had
1:06:07
some swords Some
1:06:12
wild run animations there like
1:06:15
the Star Fox 64 run
1:06:22
My brother that always pissed my brother off for some reason
1:06:24
like where they're running to
1:06:26
These are friendly these are friendly
1:06:28
monsters, right?
1:06:30
Are they?
1:06:31
It's making color so we know that maybe not
1:06:34
maybe not should be you should press the joystick
1:06:36
in and see if they're ratty or Yellow
1:06:39
or green and you'll know nice that they're color-coded
1:06:41
by the way
1:06:43
Yeah,
1:06:44
that's convenient
1:06:45
So
1:06:49
they are normally invisible But
1:06:51
because of the the route that the
1:06:53
bad guy opened up for them to get in They
1:06:57
entered through the energy like
1:07:00
conduits. So now they are radiated
1:07:03
by bioetheric energy So that's why
1:07:05
they show up now and people can see them Which
1:07:08
is something I did not clock until
1:07:11
One of the commentary to act it's not
1:07:14
it's not super The commentaries
1:07:16
were here to clear everything up
1:07:18
And it seems like it'd be a really
1:07:21
kind of interesting story if they did kind of
1:07:23
clear up a lot of things Maybe
1:07:26
took off the final fantasy name. I
1:07:28
Don't know I feel
1:07:30
like a lot of Final fantasy
1:07:33
stories kind of collapse under the
1:07:35
the weight of their Under
1:07:37
scrutiny of their world
1:07:39
building, you know, I don't know what you're talking about Final
1:07:42
Fantasy 8 has a perfect world Look
1:07:45
FF 10 is about a really bad
1:07:48
dad But
1:07:52
God I don't know how Libyans found me but they found me you
1:07:54
think they were planning to sell this as a toy. Oh
1:07:57
It's like a little like
1:07:59
hell or whatever. Oh, yeah. Sell
1:08:02
it for like a life size. I'll buy it.
1:08:04
Nadia, that's
1:08:06
just a, that's just a car. You can buy cars. How
1:08:10
much spirits within merch is there is what I'm
1:08:12
asking because Square makes merch for everything. I
1:08:14
think there was only a few figures. I think you can
1:08:16
get an Aki Ross figure,
1:08:20
but there really wasn't much. No.
1:08:23
I'm sure there's probably some Pepsi cups
1:08:25
that you can get from the theater that have some geek art
1:08:27
on them.
1:08:29
No, daddy, no. I
1:08:30
do actually rather enjoy the visual of
1:08:33
people having their soul yanked from their body.
1:08:35
It's quite creepy actually. Especially
1:08:39
on the close up of the first one when you see that
1:08:41
like his nervous system is represented
1:08:44
in it. Like yeah, it's all the everything.
1:08:47
It's kind of a little bag. It's full of
1:08:49
everything important. That
1:08:52
guy has a briefcase. Oh, boy. They
1:08:54
had fun animating this one. Fun papers. Yeah.
1:08:58
Oh, darn it. It's like the clock
1:09:00
king with goes insane efforts papers
1:09:03
like go just disarray. That is such a great origin
1:09:05
story.
1:09:07
Batman I mean.
1:09:08
Sorry. That's probably the feeling. I love
1:09:10
that we reinvented the highway, but it's just one
1:09:13
way. Thank you, Musk.
1:09:16
Yeah. The Tesla tunnel. Oh, God.
1:09:19
I do think. I was tempted to
1:09:21
ride that thing when I was in Las Vegas, but I was like, no,
1:09:24
I'm not. I just can't. Oh,
1:09:26
but we didn't invent automatic room.
1:09:29
They're checking. The
1:09:32
hell out of here. Those Duke boys,
1:09:35
where do they get up to next?
1:09:36
I do think that that one of the
1:09:39
sort of thematic things that links it
1:09:41
maybe even to F. F. Ten is
1:09:44
that like
1:09:45
the clinging to life after
1:09:47
death, you know. Yeah,
1:09:49
it's very much a very. Oh, yeah. A lot
1:09:51
of the spirits of the faith and things like
1:09:54
that. For sure. For sure. Hold
1:09:56
your breath.
1:09:58
We're going through it. Okay.
1:10:01
Just,
1:10:04
I don't... Steve Buscemi is the funny one.
1:10:07
Can we get a second take on that line? Can we get
1:10:09
like a run bag? I need
1:10:11
all of the blind lines. Do you think he literally
1:10:13
phoned it in? That's
1:10:16
extremely possible. Steve, we
1:10:18
just need you to do a quick pickup over the phone. Look,
1:10:22
I don't disparage anyone
1:10:24
just getting a check out of this movie, alright? Oh, absolutely
1:10:26
not. No. Get it while the square
1:10:28
pictures checks are still weird. If I were
1:10:30
Steve, I would have gone to Hawaii and had
1:10:33
a nice little Hawaiian vacation.
1:10:35
I could just picture, like, Game
1:10:37
Fan magazine was it, where everyone had to run to the
1:10:39
bank before the checks started to bounce during...
1:10:41
Everyone running
1:10:43
to the bank for the square pictures.
1:10:46
Well they...
1:10:49
They did all have to be in studio
1:10:52
because motion capture wasn't at the point
1:10:54
yet where they could do facial capture. So
1:10:57
all the facial stuff is all hand
1:10:59
animated and they would film
1:11:02
different angles of the voice
1:11:04
actors in the booth and
1:11:07
then the animators would match it
1:11:09
to what their face was doing. Oh man, it's like rotoscoping
1:11:11
kind of. Yeah.
1:11:13
That sounds like the reason why this
1:11:15
movie took four years. Yeah.
1:11:24
Did they kill the black guy?
1:11:27
Sorry Ving Rhames.
1:11:29
Oh, that is Ving Rhames, yeah.
1:11:33
I hear it now. Man, just
1:11:36
like the newest Mission Impossible movie too. It's a very 2001 trope.
1:11:39
Black character dies. Ving Rhames
1:11:41
has to leave now, just like in Mission Impossible.
1:11:44
Planet Eejan.
1:11:51
That is such a... It was so
1:11:53
weird to be alive in the time of when we saw those episodes
1:11:55
for the first time and now looking back and seeing
1:11:57
what became a meme. big
1:12:00
one
1:12:01
and some more hands
1:12:04
I watched some all in reruns over and
1:12:06
over and over again oh yeah yeah I did that
1:12:08
I don't watch someone there originally though I did watch
1:12:10
the the gun one when
1:12:13
it originally
1:12:16
turning other lights
1:12:17
it shooting it you
1:12:19
want the King England your business rolling
1:12:21
in here I do
1:12:24
a PlayStation
1:12:27
over packs that sounds like aches
1:12:32
what's wrong the what the quattro
1:12:35
the quattro quattro said the Gundam
1:12:37
pilot yeah
1:12:39
the the number that Bono can't count to know
1:12:42
no today's crotors
1:12:45
a something good
1:12:47
it's one two three fourteen that's
1:12:51
well
1:12:52
counting in foreign languages can be difficult
1:12:54
like if you're a Canadian and you have to learn
1:12:56
how to count in French you have to expand
1:12:59
your mind you have to like
1:13:00
actually go on a pilgrimage before you learn how to do that you
1:13:02
don't know what you're saying in two eighties
1:13:04
plus a ten plus a nine every
1:13:06
time you know some cats are then we
1:13:09
so what you're saying is Bono does not have a Spanish
1:13:12
friend a Spanish-speaking friend
1:13:14
probably not a
1:13:16
lot of friends if
1:13:20
only do a lingo was popular
1:13:28
muscle muscle
1:13:32
transformer
1:13:36
drink it
1:13:36
they found the monster oh no that's the
1:13:38
was the Ghostbusters tie-in
1:13:41
thing oh
1:13:42
the ecto
1:13:43
cool cool cooler yeah
1:13:46
we found the last fridge of echo right
1:13:49
my husband had some of that like collected on
1:13:51
his porch back porch in North Carolina and some
1:13:53
bees built a nest because of
1:13:56
course they did only
1:13:58
only that can survive the apocalypse
1:14:00
is ectocooler and Twinkies.
1:14:04
That's not bad living if you can get it. Got
1:14:07
the beer. Crack
1:14:09
them open. Oh,
1:14:16
coupling.
1:14:23
You pass the coupling.
1:14:25
No, they're
1:14:26
having a good time.
1:14:31
I love a good like it's too quiet
1:14:34
section in a movie. Like this has just
1:14:36
been an entire like it's too quiet. It's
1:14:38
a little too rasp. It's
1:14:41
quiet. Too quiet. I
1:14:44
think a penny's saying it. Everything
1:14:47
in this movie has like... Cheers. Light
1:14:50
sticks. Yeah.
1:14:52
You're right. I
1:14:55
swear to God I saw the Canadian Tire logo.
1:15:01
Canadian Tire Money is the only currency used
1:15:03
in 2065. Yuri
1:15:07
on Ice has a character who wears a Canadian Tire logo
1:15:10
upside down.
1:15:12
Oh, the anti-Canadian Tire.
1:15:14
Yes. Cast Wheels is called
1:15:16
apparently. It's
1:15:19
really weird. I love Japanese. It's
1:15:21
just... It's a thing. It's a dumb
1:15:23
thing. Take that air. Is
1:15:39
she shooting like a magic bullet now?
1:15:41
Yes. The bio-theoric
1:15:44
energy.
1:15:45
I get that these guns are
1:15:48
just meant to launch lasers. Probably
1:15:50
pretty new technology. But we
1:15:52
didn't put like a buttstock
1:15:55
or sights on this thing or anything. It's
1:15:57
just a pipe that blasts.
1:15:59
3D printing. Before
1:16:02
I played, thankfully.
1:16:06
I don't know how much
1:16:07
Japan knows about guns. But
1:16:09
we gave it this sick rail thing on the
1:16:12
outside of the grip.
1:16:13
They know how to make them look cool.
1:16:17
Oh, no. Oh, it can't be good. I
1:16:19
got the space SC. Steve, no. How
1:16:23
do you do, fellow dead people? I'm
1:16:29
going to kill them and it's going to be wandering as if the Xiaomi ghost
1:16:31
forever.
1:16:33
How do you do, fellow ghosts? Wait,
1:16:41
it has a mechanical magazine or something too? Like...
1:16:45
No, Jane! Yeah,
1:16:47
see ya, guys. I'm going home. Ah,
1:16:50
the character whose name we definitely knew. Finally.
1:16:54
God, that was getting really annoying.
1:17:04
Is there a
1:17:05
Hawaiian vacation? Is that an end? Mm-hmm.
1:17:10
That was a cool visual, though, of the tentacles
1:17:12
rising up. Yeah,
1:17:15
I think that looks real good. Mm-hmm.
1:17:20
There's
1:17:22
something about this
1:17:24
compared to Advent Children, is that
1:17:26
this really tries to do realistic
1:17:30
camera angles, like realistic
1:17:33
composition that you would get from a real camera
1:17:35
rig. Whereas Advent Children is,
1:17:37
we are unfettered by your
1:17:40
God. We
1:17:44
are going to put our camera underneath
1:17:48
this bike as it's crashing and
1:17:50
then swing it around into a dude's
1:17:52
crotch on the other side of the scene.
1:17:55
Like, it goes all over the place.
1:17:58
Okay, so this movie is PG-7. I was saying
1:18:00
earlier since PG-13 it gets one it gets
1:18:03
one fuck but so far I've only heard son
1:18:05
of a bitch and we just had it. So let's see if
1:18:07
we get the fuck final fancy fuck
1:18:09
Hey, it's a big reigns who somehow
1:18:12
got over here. Yeah, he's okay He's
1:18:16
shooting at the big crab asperthing
1:18:17
he's gonna die now to wait
1:18:20
What was he doing while everyone was getting ghosts
1:18:23
sucked way back then these just watching
1:18:25
it happen. He was just chillin
1:18:27
Don't make a little bit. You can't
1:18:29
make DLC to explain. Yeah, get go suck
1:18:31
I
1:18:37
didn't
1:18:37
understand that as a child nobody explained it to me
1:18:39
probably for the best.
1:18:41
Oh, he's gonna shoot the the ecto cooler. Yeah
1:18:45
No, I probably got cancer of our Lisa's
1:18:47
dead Second
1:18:53
phase second boss phase I
1:19:01
Think something
1:19:03
there's something to the
1:19:06
the the presence
1:19:08
of orange and presence of color
1:19:10
being a Portentive doom that
1:19:13
I think is kind of interesting that that
1:19:15
could have maybe been explored a little more
1:19:17
like yeah It is such a gray
1:19:21
Brown movie and then the splash
1:19:23
of a bright warm color means you're
1:19:26
fucked death. Yeah. Yeah That's
1:19:28
an interesting reverse attack.
1:19:30
Yeah, I feel like they could have I
1:19:33
don't know
1:19:33
Could have pursued that in some
1:19:36
interesting ways
1:19:40
Goodbye Aki me and my hair cuts
1:19:43
are going away They
1:19:45
almost killed the boss
1:19:47
Yeah, damn. Come on say the L word
1:19:50
lesbians you Know
1:19:55
the other our lesbians know you threw
1:19:57
away the bluetooth now you can never say
1:19:59
how much you
1:19:59
Lesbians are no
1:20:02
male Shepherd
1:20:04
the gun it does
1:20:06
nothing
1:20:07
insert
1:20:10
the
1:20:11
the super cut of all of the slab
1:20:14
McBeef body chunk
1:20:17
chunk McHugeman huge
1:20:19
large meat huge
1:20:21
large meat great oh
1:20:26
why'd you hold away the last second like
1:20:28
Lucy with the football you
1:20:31
had to make it dramatic second
1:20:33
thoughts about the relationship actually in
1:20:38
in the outtakes
1:20:40
there is there is one where they
1:20:44
they do one where she pulls it away even further
1:20:46
just to just to make him fall very very
1:20:49
cute with their own outtakes I miss
1:20:52
movie outtakes remember when they did that that
1:20:54
was yeah the way story
1:20:57
Toy Story 2 quote-unquote outtakes are
1:20:59
like some of the funniest things I've ever seen yeah
1:21:01
I'm a nation Toy Story 2
1:21:04
I'm gonna put it out there it's the best
1:21:06
Toy Story oh
1:21:07
I agree yeah I loved I
1:21:09
thought in theaters it was great
1:21:10
I had my least favorite Toy Story why
1:21:15
the original story the
1:21:18
original Toy Story is a perfect
1:21:20
movie Oh cat sitting up
1:21:23
there with water up to her chin I did
1:21:25
not care for Toy Story 2 it's got
1:21:27
the whole
1:21:34
bit with with the cowgirl
1:21:36
and sad and stuff and
1:21:38
then the angry prospector and
1:21:40
they cry
1:21:42
running across the street
1:21:44
and the traffic cones is so good I do like
1:21:47
Jesse
1:21:48
and of course it has that one song ah
1:21:51
quite beautiful I don't
1:21:54
know I haven't watched all of the Toy Story movies in a
1:21:56
while but
1:21:58
I do think that Toy Story 2
1:21:59
Story 4 doesn't get the respect that it
1:22:02
deserves. I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, I still
1:22:04
haven't seen Toy Story 4. Three was
1:22:06
good. I really enjoyed it. I thought 3D ended
1:22:08
it really well. I really enjoy how Toy Story 4
1:22:11
is sort of an epilogue for the entire
1:22:13
series and also rehabilitates Bo
1:22:15
Peep. Anyway, those are my Toy Story takes during
1:22:17
Final Fantasy. The spirits within. Was
1:22:22
she supposed to be... Another CG film? Oh, okay.
1:22:24
She wasn't supposed to be saying something there. She was
1:22:27
like moving her mouth like she was supposed to say something.
1:22:30
I was like, did they put peanut butter on the roof of her mouth
1:22:32
or something? Like this. So
1:22:35
are the spirits
1:22:35
who are eaten, are they gone for good?
1:22:37
Yeah, you're dead. Oh, that
1:22:39
sucks. I
1:22:40
don't know if you know this, Naughty, but you do need
1:22:42
a soul to live. Dynamis.
1:22:45
Actually the episode
1:22:46
of... Dynamis, me and Ewan
1:22:48
is not... Oh
1:22:51
my god, that bottom lip just for
1:22:53
two seconds. Okay, so I saw that too. It looked
1:22:55
like an elephant's lip or something. It was really weird. Yeah,
1:22:57
it pulled out way too far. Oh,
1:23:01
god. Oh, god. Oh, god. Oh,
1:23:03
god. Oh. I
1:23:05
don't think it's too bad. I think as far
1:23:07
as CG kisses go. It's not that
1:23:10
bad. They're doing their best. Yeah,
1:23:12
the bottom lip was just
1:23:14
moving in a way that did not look natural.
1:23:17
So they're having sex in space. That
1:23:19
must be nice. It's too bad that that scene just
1:23:21
pales in comparison to the FF10
1:23:24
equivalent, which like is
1:23:26
an all timer.
1:23:29
The water thing.
1:23:30
The Final Fantasy X was being made concurrently
1:23:32
with Final Fantasy the Spirits Within.
1:23:34
Oh, hey.
1:23:36
This was inspired by Romeo and Juliet. So
1:23:39
Sid is flying the ship and they're just like zero
1:23:41
G banging in the background. You
1:23:44
kids back
1:23:44
there, god damn it. They're not making a mess. I'm
1:23:46
not cleaning that up. I remember when I was
1:23:48
young.
1:23:50
Sakaguchi
1:23:52
really loved the characters going to space
1:23:54
scene.
1:23:55
Back
1:23:57
in Final Fantasy VII.
1:23:59
Yeah, four
1:24:02
Seven I always thought that sevens space
1:24:04
scene was very heartbreaking the shortest
1:24:06
barrel I've ever seen on a gun Even
1:24:09
a Derringer have you ever seen a Derringer?
1:24:11
Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Is that thing like
1:24:14
the the trigger guard is where the the
1:24:16
snub nose like ends. I
1:24:19
Have a feeling they didn't have much money left over
1:24:21
to model their guns There's like just a slap
1:24:23
bunch of barrels and boxes together and we'll call
1:24:25
it a
1:24:26
day I I
1:24:29
really do appreciate the the
1:24:32
balls to have a scene where the
1:24:34
bad guy is about to shoot himself in the head
1:24:37
I think that's pretty cool But then
1:24:39
he decides that he can continue to like fuck
1:24:42
with the story and yeah just continues
1:24:44
to just be a jerk Yeah, okay.
1:24:46
You kids have a good time. Thanks for joining me here
1:24:51
My grandfather yet
1:24:57
Your safe word is dynamist
1:25:14
The a spirit You
1:25:22
Actually Eric when you brought up the spirit
1:25:23
thing I was just thinking how the Simpsons episode
1:25:25
of Bart selling his soul is a really On
1:25:28
a theological level and a comedic
1:25:30
level. It's a great episode of the Simpsons. It's
1:25:32
a great
1:25:36
That's the episode with
1:25:39
Mo's
1:25:41
Mo's restaurant family restaurant most
1:25:43
family fried eat them I
1:25:49
Please take this basket off my head kid.
1:25:51
It's extremely hot really hot Invariably
1:25:57
by the third act we were just gonna to
1:26:00
descend in the Simpsons quotes.
1:26:02
It was bound to happen.
1:26:06
Oh, is that like a, it looks
1:26:07
like a space elevator.
1:26:12
I wish. I love a space elevator.
1:26:14
Ooh. Do you like Mega Man X8 then?
1:26:17
Absolutely. Yeah. An
1:26:19
entire generation of final, an entire
1:26:21
generation of Japanese nerds
1:26:23
grew up with Gundam.
1:26:25
Yeah. And is that where the space elevator thing kind
1:26:27
of? Very much so. I
1:26:29
know it's an actual concept, but in sci-fi,
1:26:31
I really kind of got a boost during that time, I guess.
1:26:34
Yeah.
1:26:40
Any of you all seen
1:26:43
the CG Captain Harlock movie?
1:26:46
I have not seen the CG Captain Harlock.
1:26:49
I did see the CG Yamato. It was one of the most
1:26:51
boring things I've ever watched. Oh, yeah.
1:26:56
Harlock has a,
1:26:58
Harlock has a real good space laser as
1:27:01
far as space lasers go. That's
1:27:03
an all-time. Space lasers ring.
1:27:05
Yeah. They're going to fire the cannon and there's going
1:27:08
to be like two chicks fighting on top of it in a
1:27:10
slap fight.
1:27:12
In a vacuum of space,
1:27:14
one was wearing a tacky dress. The Phantom
1:27:16
Crater.
1:27:33
Okay, that rules. That's
1:27:36
cool.
1:27:36
That's where the budget went. Orb Jeep.
1:27:39
Yep. I love Orb Jeep. Because
1:27:42
if these things are true, then what else
1:27:45
is true? And if you can create those barriers,
1:27:47
why can't you create a little barrier
1:27:49
in your little Jeep?
1:27:51
Yeah. Yeah.
1:27:52
I appreciate it. I
1:27:55
appreciate the thought that goes into something. They just better
1:27:57
hope that the battery doesn't run out.
1:27:59
than I have a problem. Might have a bad time.
1:28:02
It looks like
1:28:14
they're inside that like Tang liquid from
1:28:16
Evangelion. Mm-hmm.
1:28:17
The LCL. Yeah. It's
1:28:20
just called Tang.
1:28:24
No, Tang is the other... Well, I mean, it's... But
1:28:27
they turn into... It's kind of the same thing. Yeah. It
1:28:30
turns
1:28:30
into LCL. Yeah. Yeah. Spoiler
1:28:33
alert, end of Evangelion.
1:28:34
Yeah. Speaking of
1:28:36
Evangelion, look at those like plug
1:28:38
things coming out. Totally. Yeah.
1:28:42
I had way too much fun with the actual industrial
1:28:44
design and not enough fun with literally anything else
1:28:47
in this movie. Yeah. That's
1:28:49
a good way of putting it.
1:29:01
I want to finish Evangelion, but every time... I
1:29:03
don't know. I keep having weird dreams about it.
1:29:06
They kind of distract me. You keep having weird
1:29:08
dreams about it. Good. That's the experience
1:29:10
you should be having. Yeah.
1:29:13
I can't even tell you what those dreams are. I just know like something
1:29:15
about them is bad. And when I think of Evangelion,
1:29:17
I think, oh, that's troubling. I'll
1:29:20
get to it eventually, but yeah, sometimes
1:29:22
my dreams do that. I've finally figured out who the villain in this movie
1:29:24
reminds me of, by the way. It's basically Ben
1:29:27
Shapiro. Yes. Thank
1:29:29
you. Of the Ben Shapiro in
1:29:31
Virgil cosplay. Yeah, pretty much. I
1:29:34
like Virgil better than Ben Shapiro. Unfortunately,
1:29:39
James Woods and Ben Shapiro probably
1:29:41
have plenty to talk about. Climate
1:29:44
change is a myth, Dante. Dante.
1:29:47
Look at that. How are they
1:29:49
talking about it? Oh, so you're telling me there's
1:29:51
just spirits? There's just spirits now? And they're just supposed
1:29:53
to be appeared Dante? Yeah.
1:30:01
Here comes the tang.
1:30:08
God just thinking when I was a kid and like everyone
1:30:10
was just like, hey, yeah, okay, drink some
1:30:13
water and sugar and die.
1:30:15
Nobody gave a damn.
1:30:16
Hey,
1:30:21
Kool-Aid. That's your solution
1:30:22
to everything. Shoot the crater with
1:30:25
the orbital death laser.
1:30:27
So when I was in middle
1:30:29
school, I really pissed off my
1:30:31
history teacher because I said that
1:30:34
they should have just built really big cannons
1:30:37
because my theory was that if you could
1:30:39
sink a boat, you could also sink a country. There
1:30:44
are many reasons why that does not actually
1:30:46
work but I was like, if you can
1:30:48
sink a boat and countries
1:30:50
are just in water, you can just sink a country
1:30:52
by hitting it with a really big cannon ball. Oh,
1:30:55
no, you can dodge a wrench, you can
1:30:57
dodge a ball. That is why... The belt just
1:30:59
sprung a leak. It's sinking. It's
1:31:01
likely to know that Hironobu Sakaguchi
1:31:04
has also thought of what if cannons sink a
1:31:06
country. That's
1:31:08
why we don't give Eric the keys to the acts
1:31:11
of the blood god orbital death ray. Whatever's
1:31:14
coming out looks like, what's
1:31:16
it called, like elephant toothpaste or devil toothpaste
1:31:18
that you see on TikTok?
1:31:19
Devil toothpaste?
1:31:21
What?
1:31:21
It's just some weird crap that kids make
1:31:24
and it all foams up into this big
1:31:26
colorful column of something. What
1:31:29
corner of the internet are you on? It's
1:31:31
just
1:31:31
regular TikTok.
1:31:34
If you look up elephant toothpaste or devil's toothpaste or
1:31:36
whatever, you'll find it. What are you looking at?
1:31:38
Just like that. How did you find
1:31:41
those words to begin with? That combination?
1:31:43
Wait, that's a solid phantom.
1:31:46
Wait a minute, that's not allowed.
1:31:49
Well, because it... I
1:31:51
think because it hits the barrier that
1:31:54
they're in? Oh, okay. Quick,
1:31:58
hit the
1:31:59
Commodore keyboard.
1:31:59
Like
1:32:00
the Ecto cooler saved us. No,
1:32:03
Ecto cooler might be their doom. I like
1:32:06
that they finally brought that back for the end.
1:32:08
The thing they only showed at the beginning.
1:32:13
That was a true hero all along. Ecto
1:32:15
cooler. Check off the Ecto cooler.
1:32:18
Dude taking a nap. Man,
1:32:21
we really should have worn seat belts. We really should have
1:32:23
invented those for this. Click it or take
1:32:25
it, dude. Well, they
1:32:27
don't put scopes or butts
1:32:29
on their guns. They don't put seat belts in their space
1:32:32
car.
1:32:33
Space car. Let's go
1:32:35
riding in that. No, I don't want to be here.
1:32:37
Here's Ben Shapiro.
1:32:39
Dad, can I borrow
1:32:41
the space car?
1:32:54
Oh, yeah, sure. It's not an invasion. Then why
1:32:56
are we being invaded? Dude,
1:32:58
you watched like 50,000 people
1:33:00
get their blue spirits sucked out of their
1:33:03
bodies and you're like, ghosts.
1:33:14
There's something down there I can shoot and goddamn
1:33:16
it. I'm going to shoot it. Look, we
1:33:19
have to kill these woke ghosts, OK? Oh,
1:33:24
I see. So if there's a guy and there's an earth
1:33:26
guy,
1:33:29
God, he really is. If
1:33:32
you're not with us, you're against us. Keep
1:33:36
shooting that gun.
1:33:43
Maybe it looks like the living organic planet
1:33:45
in.
1:33:46
What was it? Guardians of the Galaxy
1:33:49
three. So
1:33:51
we like the ghost. No, don't
1:33:53
kill the ghost. We like the ghost now.
1:33:57
This is a few very. I had to go rent
1:33:59
the orbital space. laser. Didn't you hear the
1:34:01
song? Don't make
1:34:03
a decision until you've heard both songs.
1:34:06
Okay, but not to
1:34:08
like, not to side with the general here or
1:34:10
anything. But aren't like, isn't
1:34:13
Aki and the rest of them also trying to get
1:34:15
rid of the ghosts? Like, they're not trying to save
1:34:17
them. They're just trying to kill them in a different
1:34:19
way, right? Well, I have no
1:34:21
idea. What is their long term plan here? They're
1:34:24
sad. They're sad. So they we
1:34:26
have to put them out of their misery. I'm
1:34:30
not actually sure what they're trying to do. What are they trying
1:34:32
to do, vector?
1:34:33
They so that's,
1:34:37
that's the thing. Sid says at the beginning,
1:34:39
the waveform that they're trying to generate.
1:34:45
Wait, the waveform is meant to neutralize
1:34:49
the phantoms. Now, to
1:34:51
a permanent end. Now, Sid, Sid
1:34:55
has an understanding of what that
1:34:58
means, but doesn't want to share
1:35:00
it because that's the thing that people won't get
1:35:02
on board with.
1:35:06
Yeah, it's,
1:35:07
it's, you know, you got to squint your brain a
1:35:09
little bit. Oh, my intrusive thoughts are going crazy.
1:35:12
Long live the king.
1:35:14
Oh, so I found
1:35:16
where they made Blue
1:35:19
Powerade. It
1:35:21
would come from the bowels of the earth.
1:35:23
I always knew Blue Powerade
1:35:26
was the life force of the earth.
1:35:30
See, if they do it like this,
1:35:32
they don't have to animate walking.
1:35:34
That's another Gundam thing right there. That's
1:35:37
what Starfield was missing.
1:35:46
That would
1:35:51
mess us up so bad as a species.
1:35:53
That was so June
1:35:55
on cannon right there. Yeah. Oh, see,
1:35:58
if you want to know more about that, Nadia, you should.
1:35:59
should watch the show The Expanse, which
1:36:02
covers that in great detail. What would happen if
1:36:04
you meant if they like grew up
1:36:06
in space instead of on Earth?
1:36:08
It's really cool actually. It's great. That
1:36:11
would be really cool. The experience is great. It's really, really good.
1:36:14
The best expression of a culture where Polly
1:36:16
is totally accepted in modern media?
1:36:19
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That
1:36:21
is in Xenoblade Chronicles 3? Yes,
1:36:23
better than Xenoblade Chronicles 3. Slash
1:36:26
Xenoblade Chronicles 2? No, that's just a harem.
1:36:32
Is a harem a polycule? No.
1:36:34
It can be. It could be, sure.
1:36:39
I have thoughts on this, but maybe this is
1:36:41
not the time or place. Let's
1:36:44
talk about polycules during spirits
1:36:46
within. Of course we're re-branding harem. Yeah.
1:36:55
Okay, so if they leave the Ghost alone, will they restore
1:36:57
the planets and stuff? Oh,
1:37:03
this is going to be a
1:37:05
vague FF7 ending, isn't it? Where
1:37:07
humans have to decide. This is Buginhagen. This
1:37:09
isn't Sid. I've
1:37:12
unmasked you, Sid.
1:37:13
A compatible spirit.
1:37:27
She's asleep in a nap. Oh,
1:37:29
man.
1:37:31
Really drank too much last night.
1:37:35
The one thing that they really want to emphasize, by
1:37:37
the way, when they were doing the CG, were the
1:37:40
pores in the skin. Yeah. Because
1:37:44
all of the humans in other
1:37:46
shows looked like they had, you know,
1:37:48
they looked like plastic, right? Yeah.
1:37:51
But here, the skin looks a
1:37:53
little more realistic, but still very
1:37:55
PS2. This is reminding
1:37:58
me, I was going to look up that Maxim cover.
1:37:59
Final
1:38:01
fantasy spirits
1:38:04
within Maxim.
1:38:08
Oh, right. Did she do the photo
1:38:10
shoot? Yeah. Yeah. I
1:38:12
forgot about that. Yeah. So did your
1:38:14
spirit just come out of her and kill her and that
1:38:16
was something? She was in the Maxim Hot 100
1:38:18
for 2001. I
1:38:21
have to say this feels like a metaphor for something.
1:38:25
Hold on. There's a vintage poster
1:38:27
from back then that someone's selling on eBay.
1:38:30
Is that kind of a vagina? Yeah, it sure
1:38:32
did. It's only like, oh God,
1:38:35
Victor, it's only like $36. It's
1:38:37
not that much for a vintage Maxim
1:38:39
Hot 100. Accu-Ross poster. I've
1:38:42
got $36. She just gave birth
1:38:44
to an alien or something. Can I get penseless
1:38:46
to the blood God cat? Yes.
1:38:51
I have to like put it in the background
1:38:53
of all her stream so I can tax write
1:38:55
it.
1:38:57
I hope my child
1:38:59
has giant pores like me. I
1:39:02
need a vino. Some of those are some
1:39:04
of those are cute freckles. Accu-Ross
1:39:06
really does need some good skincare but
1:39:08
skincare wasn't as much of a thing in 2001.
1:39:11
I shouldn't I shouldn't judge. I don't exactly
1:39:14
have gray skin myself.
1:39:14
The thing that I feel
1:39:17
is was a missed opportunity
1:39:19
is that like the whole the whole idea behind Accu-Ross
1:39:22
as a character was that she was going
1:39:24
to be a digital actor and
1:39:26
they would reuse the character of Aki-Ras
1:39:29
in all of their projects.
1:39:33
They made her an Unwoman instead.
1:39:35
Like even within this movie,
1:39:37
they like we are looking at a different
1:39:39
model of Accu-Ross than what we did
1:39:42
at the beginning because things progressed so
1:39:44
much. They did her several
1:39:46
times throughout the movie. So we're
1:39:49
because it was from beginning to end. We're
1:39:51
seeing the progression of the Accu-Ross
1:39:53
character model. And I think
1:39:55
I don't know if they had done a couple
1:39:58
other projects, we would have seen a little bit more.
1:39:59
The only time they ever got to use her again was
1:40:02
in a test
1:40:04
for their Animatrix short,
1:40:07
which was the only other thing that Square Pictures
1:40:09
ever did.
1:40:11
And that was being made, that was made
1:40:13
even after Square Pictures was shut down, right? That
1:40:16
was like the last project.
1:40:18
Yeah. But the idea of
1:40:21
having
1:40:22
digital
1:40:24
actors, characters that you reuse
1:40:27
to be recognizable is like, I don't
1:40:30
know, that's the proto Vtuber, that's the
1:40:32
proto Mikuhatsune
1:40:34
kind of thing, you know?
1:40:36
The digital actor concept in 2001?
1:40:39
Yeah. And I feel like it would
1:40:41
have been done more ethically than what we're
1:40:44
seeing now, which is just resurrecting
1:40:46
the dead to trot them out like everybody.
1:40:49
Oh, yeah. Yeah, the holograms
1:40:51
and de-aging
1:40:53
people and stuff like that. A
1:40:56
few years before this even came out, I was
1:40:59
like really big in a dragon heart, which was a kind
1:41:01
of a pretty good showcase of CG for its time too.
1:41:04
But you only had Sean Connery Dragon to animate,
1:41:06
not Super Mario
1:41:08
Tang Land, or whatever this is.
1:41:10
Get down.
1:41:13
I'm sure that'll help.
1:41:15
No,
1:41:18
don't shoot the blue Powerade. Oh,
1:41:21
we need that. Look, right?
1:41:23
Oh, now it's a red Powerade. Now
1:41:25
I'm going to be thirsty. Nobody likes red Powerade.
1:41:28
No, who wants red Powerade? This is
1:41:30
just the FF7 crater.
1:41:33
Like this is where we are
1:41:35
in the lifestream, we are, you know.
1:41:39
This is where you got very Final Fantasy for
1:41:41
sure. Let's really play Final Fantasy 7 one
1:41:44
day. You really should. You really should
1:41:46
before making judgments on it. Oh.
1:41:49
No, I mean, I watched my friend
1:41:51
play most of it. I've learned
1:41:53
most of it through like cultural osmosis, but
1:41:55
I've never really like sat down and played it myself. What
1:41:57
you really need to do, Eric, is time travel.
1:41:59
back to 1997 and experience it the way that
1:42:02
we experienced it.
1:42:06
I'd be five, so I don't know if I'd really like... That's
1:42:09
okay, like you're modern Eric, I'm
1:42:11
saying. Oh, okay. Yeah. Can I
1:42:13
play it with my five-year-old self?
1:42:15
Oh, yeah. Sure.
1:42:17
Your five-year-old self would be pretty impressed.
1:42:19
Deeper. That's fair words. I
1:42:21
hope he's impressed, otherwise I got more things to
1:42:23
think about than Final Fantasy 7. He can learn
1:42:25
how to read, and then he can learn curse
1:42:28
words like very early in
1:42:29
his life. I have a dime, you're...
1:42:32
Now see, what I would have liked... Death Star is coming
1:42:34
to killing. What I would have liked a little
1:42:36
bit more is if he decided
1:42:38
he was just going to do a colony drop. If
1:42:40
he was like... There you go. Ah, we're
1:42:43
out of... That's Mega Man X5. The Scopel
1:42:45
Gundam shaped like a sword.
1:42:47
He could do such a sick colony drop with
1:42:49
it, like... Right? I feel like the prior RPG,
1:42:52
X-Sor just kind of goes into Bowser's Castle.
1:42:55
You're not wrong, Victor. This does
1:42:57
get progressively better from
1:42:59
a visual standpoint. Yeah. Like,
1:43:01
the more stuff is a lot better. It's visually much more interesting
1:43:04
toward the end than it is in the beginning.
1:43:06
Yeah, it's really interesting.
1:43:08
It's like watching the original Harry Potter and
1:43:10
the kids grow up throughout. Oh,
1:43:12
yeah. But like, they're
1:43:15
growing, so you can tell when they shot...
1:43:18
Did early shots versus later shots because
1:43:20
sometimes their ages are different. Yeah.
1:43:23
Yeah. Yep. Like,
1:43:25
the kids' voices are changing by the end
1:43:27
of that movie.
1:43:32
Oh, another movie that came out in 2001, I might add.
1:43:36
Classic. Oh, goshy. Right?
1:43:38
Wow, yeah.
1:43:39
That dragon.
1:43:41
Also, out in 2001, Fellowship
1:43:43
of the Ring. It's
1:43:45
kind of a big year, wasn't it? It was a year.
1:43:48
Don't leave me, Gray. If it's
1:43:51
only me and Sid
1:43:51
left on this Earth, it's going to be real bad. Oh, she's doing
1:43:53
the work.
1:43:59
wave. And
1:44:02
then the Macarena.
1:44:04
Macarena.
1:44:12
They squashed my kidneys to paste.
1:44:17
My heartburn. Magic
1:44:20
Heartburn is back. It's radiating. Deus Ex
1:44:22
Heartburn.
1:44:42
There's something
1:44:44
about this plan that they are about to enact
1:44:46
that feels interesting to me
1:44:48
and I can't put my finger on it. It's
1:44:51
like they
1:44:56
have not explained what they are about to do here.
1:45:00
Or why she just climbed down the side.
1:45:03
I think I like that. I finally believe.
1:45:06
Any consumed by the elder brain
1:45:09
here? He
1:45:21
said the lesbian's word.
1:45:26
So he's going to fix
1:45:28
the...
1:45:28
He's being like the conduit?
1:45:31
He's being the conduit. Because...
1:45:35
Oh, he became Dr. Manhattan. Okay. Now
1:45:39
she's got cancer.
1:45:41
As
1:45:43
the woman, she is creating or something.
1:45:48
Yes. So,
1:45:51
the promise
1:45:54
of new life is the eighth
1:45:57
spirit that gives the hope to
1:45:59
rejuvenate. the world because
1:46:02
she it's
1:46:05
been cut out but
1:46:07
the eighth spirit is her unborn
1:46:10
child of course in her and Greg's
1:46:13
it is corn oh so she wait
1:46:15
what
1:46:16
her abortion is the savior of
1:46:17
the eight
1:46:20
she is pregnant like when they
1:46:23
they hooked up oh
1:46:26
in space
1:46:29
baby so baby
1:46:32
okay got she caught preggers when
1:46:34
they were having SpaceX yes
1:46:37
and when when in her dream
1:46:39
the spirit the
1:46:42
the phantom touched her obviously
1:46:44
if we see it resonate
1:46:46
with her womb and that
1:46:49
it is the frequency that they
1:46:51
needed to finish the wave for
1:46:55
and beaureth and the super saiyan
1:46:57
god thing when I whoever was pregnant
1:46:59
with pan and they're like oh yeah there's the eight super
1:47:02
saiyan power that we need and
1:47:03
and this is this is just life stream
1:47:05
stuff here that even the special effects on
1:47:08
the the the
1:47:09
it's
1:47:12
Eris doing the thing except yeah so we have
1:47:14
Donald Sutherland yeah tumbling
1:47:16
down tumbling down tumbling
1:47:18
down so that means final
1:47:21
fancy 7 imagery just
1:47:25
do frickin Final Fantasy 7 got geez
1:47:28
well I I think I like I
1:47:31
get
1:47:32
a adaptation of FF 7 would
1:47:34
be awful like I
1:47:37
I think I think dead
1:47:39
no
1:47:41
okay no but baby
1:47:44
wasn't artiste
1:47:46
I know for a fact
1:47:48
that in Final Fantasy 6 there
1:47:51
was that scene with the the
1:47:53
pregnant teens and he insisted on that being
1:47:55
there because his daughter had just been born
1:47:57
and so he was really into the whole like Rejuvenation
1:48:01
of life thing and oh yeah, it's done really well
1:48:03
in six. Yeah a little more Hackens
1:48:05
I guess that's his that's his whole deal. I Understand
1:48:09
that I understand where he's coming from I understand But you have to be careful
1:48:11
with a metaphor cuz it can come real cheesy real fast
1:48:14
Cuz this movie wasn't cheesy. Oh
1:48:19
We brought birds
1:48:21
back
1:48:22
There's my baby flying in the air My
1:48:26
baby has wings and beak
1:48:28
And then the metaphor
1:48:30
and then we get this real Metal
1:48:32
Gear Solid 1 ass Life
1:48:36
returning and the tundra and
1:48:39
then a beautiful vocal
1:48:41
ballad that is I
1:48:46
Really
1:48:47
If
1:48:50
you want to thank me I do make
1:48:52
ease cuz I've kind of the same sort
1:48:54
of song I
1:48:57
Wish so her baby is
1:49:00
the reason for all this.
1:49:01
Yes. Yeah the
1:49:04
potential for new life is
1:49:07
Always the thing that will
1:49:09
that will keep
1:49:10
the plan is very it's very Japanese
1:49:13
Yeah, it it just ends there
1:49:16
Yeah
1:49:18
That's it. There are still other people
1:49:20
on the earth, right? Like it's not just Sid
1:49:23
and aki Yeah, now. Oh, yeah. No,
1:49:25
it goes baby there. There
1:49:27
is still all of New New York
1:49:30
Everybody woke up and went wow,
1:49:32
New York or old New York New
1:49:34
New York the the the
1:49:36
old New York the New York that is in
1:49:38
the bubble did wasn't completely
1:49:41
decimated
1:49:43
Yeah, there was
1:49:45
Yeah
1:49:50
I would love
1:49:52
I'm
1:49:54
really upset that we don't have any Like
1:49:58
interviews with Kojima
1:49:59
around this time
1:50:02
of the like, hey, you're the guy
1:50:04
who's supposed to be doing video game movies.
1:50:07
Like, isn't... I would
1:50:10
like to know what he was internally
1:50:12
feeling about Sakaguchi
1:50:14
becoming the Hollywood director.
1:50:17
And like, the... ah,
1:50:19
not so easy, is it? You know? Well,
1:50:23
there are a few different video game
1:50:26
directors who were
1:50:28
desperate to become movie directors and
1:50:30
ultimately did, and it didn't go super well.
1:50:33
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1:50:34
I don't know what I expected
1:50:36
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1:50:39
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What are your thoughts, Nadia?
1:51:32
It had the potential to not be boring
1:51:34
as hell, but it was boring as hell. So,
1:51:36
eh, not exactly my favorite
1:51:38
video game movie by a long shot.
1:51:41
I started making fun of it pretty fast because I just
1:51:43
lost interest, to be honest.
1:51:46
Yeah, I would not say that I was invested in my
1:51:48
second watch-along of Final
1:51:51
Fantasy The Spirits Within. And I would
1:51:54
also say that I got kind of, they
1:51:56
spent a lot of time explaining
1:51:58
what the heck was going on with the spirits. and
1:52:00
everything but... And I still don't get
1:52:02
it. I didn't really follow what
1:52:05
the actual stakes were
1:52:07
by the end. Exactly. Yeah.
1:52:09
They were like... So I
1:52:11
knew that Ben Shapiro was trying to
1:52:13
nuke the spirits within,
1:52:16
but I wasn't entirely sure what
1:52:19
Aki Ross and her boyfriend were attempting
1:52:22
to accomplish on their end until the
1:52:24
very end. And even then it was still a little confusing. They made a baby.
1:52:27
They made a spirit baby, sure. They made a baby. I
1:52:30
did like the industrial design. Very anime,
1:52:32
as you said. Wait, I have a
1:52:34
question. How much time passed
1:52:36
between SpaceX and Space Baby? Oh, like,
1:52:38
I don't
1:52:39
know, a couple hours maybe
1:52:41
at the moment. She got pregnant fast. I
1:52:44
was going to say, usually conception takes three
1:52:46
days, approximately. It doesn't happen quickly.
1:52:48
Let's just say that it makes sense.
1:52:51
Look, Captain Grey Edwards just
1:52:53
built different, all right?
1:52:57
Well, and they had sex in space,
1:52:59
so the
1:53:02
baby's awakening is a new type anyway, so
1:53:04
yeah. Wait,
1:53:07
is that why there's new types in Gundam?
1:53:09
Sex in space? It's one of the
1:53:11
theories, right, for new types? I
1:53:13
feel like the new type stuff changes pretty frequently
1:53:16
throughout Gundam. They don't
1:53:19
explain it on purpose. Yeah,
1:53:23
so the Harvest Lunatic says the ending feels very
1:53:25
unsatisfying with so much left unknown. It didn't
1:53:28
feel like anything was solved. Well,
1:53:30
I mean, Victor, you said
1:53:32
that they cut out like a big part of the explanation
1:53:34
of what the heck was going on, right? Yeah,
1:53:37
they did a little bit. And
1:53:40
also, I think someone
1:53:42
earlier in the chat also said, is this going to have
1:53:44
like an ambiguous FF7 ending? Yeah,
1:53:48
it's kind of,
1:53:50
you know, they leave it a little
1:53:52
whatever.
1:53:52
You figure it out. It's kind of vibes-based
1:53:55
anyway. You figure it out if you're hot
1:53:57
shit.
1:53:58
So one thing...
1:53:59
I'm still confused about is that
1:54:02
the phantoms only started showing up
1:54:04
when the when the meteor hit right?
1:54:07
Yes, so phantoms
1:54:11
But like what made phantoms come out
1:54:13
of the crater in the first place? Why did that like
1:54:15
piece of rock start developing ghosts?
1:54:19
So they rode there the the that
1:54:21
was a chunk of the planet that
1:54:23
when it exploded it it
1:54:25
crash-landed on earth and yes
1:54:28
harbored the souls of the
1:54:31
dead on it and
1:54:33
and the ghosts just But
1:54:37
I guess what I'm saying is
1:54:38
Did those life forms always turn into
1:54:40
ghosts or did something happen to make them
1:54:42
start turning into ghosts when they died on
1:54:45
the rock? I think there's a disaster
1:54:48
on their planet. It's what was insinuating a
1:54:50
comet crashed to their planet They all died
1:54:52
and
1:54:53
all of their souls ended
1:54:55
up in the rock. Yeah angry
1:54:57
souls Okay, and then because
1:54:59
they were angry souls they
1:55:02
started coming to as phantoms Yeah,
1:55:05
so what I guess I'm looking for like the inflection
1:55:07
point of why you know If
1:55:09
they died before and didn't become phantoms,
1:55:11
why do they die now and become phantoms? What makes
1:55:14
the important thing to know and what really
1:55:16
happened in the story is that Sakaguchi?
1:55:20
grew up in post-war Japan and
1:55:23
synthesized Eastern and
1:55:25
Western philosophy throughout his entire life
1:55:28
Yeah, so there's like there's
1:55:30
an element of yeah, there's a lot of
1:55:32
some like Buddhism and
1:55:34
like yeah There's some like I go.
1:55:37
Yeah, yeah and
1:55:41
Yeah, I think I think what he's
1:55:43
trying to do in all of his works
1:55:45
is try to synthesize
1:55:48
His his belief
1:55:50
system into something and it
1:55:53
so I can respect that. Yeah Yeah,
1:55:56
I enjoy that
1:55:57
not a good a movie director as a game director.
1:55:59
No
1:55:59
Takeaway is it's not as bad as
1:56:02
I thought it was going to be but it's also not good.
1:56:04
It's not like in the middle
1:56:07
Yeah, yeah, it's not memorable
1:56:09
at all. No. Yeah, it's
1:56:11
not like so bad. It's good or like I wish
1:56:13
it was either better or worse The
1:56:17
movie's place in history is more interesting than
1:56:19
the movie itself It's
1:56:22
not so bad that it's good like the Street
1:56:24
Fighter movie, but it's not actually good It's
1:56:27
in the middle date of Hawaii. Yeah I
1:56:30
think we're also listening to La Concille
1:56:32
now Awesome,
1:56:35
I just want to add that the the
1:56:37
my animatrix to show notes do
1:56:39
a Mari takeout The square pictures
1:56:42
animatrix short was actually a lot
1:56:44
better than this movie.
1:56:45
Yeah, I agree. Yeah
1:56:48
Yeah, I think it's place in in
1:56:52
RPG history is interesting I
1:56:54
think it's place as a creation
1:56:57
of squares is interesting and
1:56:59
specifically of Sakaguchi's and and
1:57:01
where he was at and Yeah,
1:57:04
that's being the stories He's obviously trying
1:57:06
to tell and thought that this would be the
1:57:08
medium to do it in and yeah
1:57:10
I mean ultimately it isn't
1:57:13
really unless he were a slightly better
1:57:15
storyteller and
1:57:17
Yeah, technology had caught up
1:57:19
to his ambition, you know and
1:57:21
the team's ambition
1:57:23
But I don't know I I think I don't
1:57:25
think it's a movie anyone needs to like
1:57:28
or or go to bat for but I I
1:57:30
do think it's kind of interesting and
1:57:33
I don't know.
1:57:34
I'm glad I was novelty. It's
1:57:36
an obvious. It's interesting. Yeah
1:57:39
Well, that was
1:57:41
our final fantasy the spirits within watch.
1:57:44
Thank you so much for joining
1:57:46
us on this Adventure I had
1:57:48
a great time. Thank you for your expertise
1:57:51
Victor. I had no idea that you had watched this
1:57:53
four times Yeah, I
1:57:55
cannot believe you did that Tracks
1:57:59
are pretty good I had a good time. That's
1:58:01
at least four. I mean, I'm happy. I'm happy you did that. You
1:58:04
brought that to the pod, but also. I
1:58:07
love that you listened to the commentary tracks.
1:58:10
How many? There has to be
1:58:12
only like a dozen people in the world that have listened
1:58:15
to those commentary tracks. So
1:58:17
well done you. Yeah, no, I love them.
1:58:19
That's why I still buy my Blu-rays is all
1:58:21
amazing. I'll buy anything I like
1:58:23
that has a commentary track. Commentary
1:58:26
tracks rule. It's a lost art and.
1:58:28
I agree. I'm pretty straying further from the light of God
1:58:30
every day.
1:58:32
Well, thank you so much to our Stars
1:58:34
of Destiny as well for joining us on this
1:58:36
walk along and watch along and suffering
1:58:38
through a few of the early technical
1:58:41
difficulties. We'll keep working
1:58:44
through this and figuring it out, but I thought
1:58:46
it went pretty well. We had a good time and would
1:58:50
like to keep doing this. We'll have to figure out the
1:58:52
next thing to
1:58:53
do a watch along for. It would be a
1:58:56
lot of fun, I think. In
1:58:58
the meantime. I
1:59:01
mean, especially when rebirth comes
1:59:03
out, it might be a good time to watch Advent Children because there
1:59:05
will be tie ins to it. Because
1:59:08
it also makes me want to go back and watch Kingsglaive
1:59:11
of all things just to see like the trilogy
1:59:14
of of Final Fantasy. Oh, see,
1:59:16
I saw Kingsglaive in theaters and
1:59:19
that was that was I remember doing
1:59:21
that for some reason. He saw it in theaters.
1:59:23
Yeah. Wow.
1:59:25
Look, I was reviewing
1:59:27
Final Fantasy 15 at the time. I had to
1:59:30
do my due diligence. And let
1:59:32
me tell you, 15
1:59:33
does not make any more sense if you
1:59:35
have seen Kingsglaive. What a surprise.
1:59:40
Well, I've been Kat Bailey. I hope you had
1:59:43
an amazing holiday. We'll
1:59:45
be back next week with a regular
1:59:47
episode. We'll
1:59:49
be back to our regular schedule. But until
1:59:51
then, for Nadia and Eric
1:59:53
and Victor and myself, thanks for listening
1:59:56
and happy adventuring.
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