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good. Obviously. I guess you knew he had

2:00

probably been struggling a little bit, but

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how, you had

2:05

how many happy couple times to get, which, and for

2:07

the listeners who don't know happy couple, it's a weekend

2:09

where they fly the couple out

2:12

to LA. You stay in a house for a few

2:14

days to do couple things and to get to

2:16

know each other because you can't be in public. So

2:18

how many of those weekends did you have together?

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We had, I believe a total of three,

2:23

including Australia. Okay. We

2:25

had three. When you guys are in those

2:28

moments, I'm assuming you were talking about

2:29

the future and making plans about what that would look

2:32

like. Yeah. Oh yeah. We

2:34

were looking into, you know, moving in together, looking at apartments. I mean, we

2:37

were serious and really

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it was just when the season started was

2:42

when I started, you know, to feel

2:45

his hesitation and that didn't

2:47

sit well with me. But there again, he was

2:49

giving me those words of affirmation

2:52

to keep me there. I'm not

2:54

a dumbass. I'm not just going to stay with someone,

2:56

you know, just because of a commitment and just

2:59

because I want them. No, he was

3:01

giving me those words of affirmation that

3:03

kept me there, that kept, you know, that

3:06

fueled me to be like, okay, I'm going to fight for

3:08

this. You know, yes, we're in an, you

3:10

know, yes, we're in an abnormal circumstance,

3:12

but you know what? I made this commitment

3:14

and I love you and I'm going to fight for you. You know, that's where

3:16

all that came from. Did, after

3:19

the season started, did y'all have another happy

3:21

couple, couples weekend or was the first time

3:23

y'all saw each other after the season started when the breakup

3:25

happened? We had a happy couple,

3:28

um, the end of December

3:30

and in January and then the

3:32

last one was when we broke up and that was like

3:34

a full month of not seeing each other.

3:36

Which is a lot of why he blamed

3:39

how he was struggling. And so walking

3:41

into that day, you know, I even have a voicemail

3:44

from him saying, you know, I love you. Can't wait

3:46

to see you. And going into that day, you

3:48

know, I knew it was going to be a tough conversation. And

3:51

we both even said, we

3:53

will move past this. We will, you

3:55

know,

3:56

overcome this as a couple, you know, and, um,

3:59

was that the first time

3:59

I had the cameras at the happy couple weekend. So

4:02

when you saw the cameras, what did you think?

4:04

I knew something was up, but

4:07

there again, through text messages

4:09

and voicemails, I trusted his word. And

4:13

obviously I'm happy how things ended. I mean, gosh,

4:15

I was miserable with them. I mean, I was miserable.

4:17

Really? Yeah. Like once

4:19

January started or? Once January started. Because

4:22

the whole wishy-washiness started. And

4:24

I was just like, I need someone who knows who

4:26

they are, who knows what they want,

4:28

and who's not going to be with someone just

4:30

because their mom told them to. I

4:34

remember meeting those moments. How bad was

4:36

your

4:37

anxiety and that struggle? Because when you can't

4:39

be with your partner and your state's

4:42

away and you know someone's struggling. That

4:44

was so hard. And I was probably

4:47

the most anxious I've ever been. Because you want to make

4:49

this relationship work. You want

4:51

to just be normal with your partner

4:53

and you can't. And so how did you deal with

4:55

that?

4:57

How I dealt with it was I

4:59

was just focusing on forward

5:01

thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking of

5:03

us ending this together. And the words he

5:05

was feeding me, we will get through this together.

5:08

We will, you're my fiance,

5:10

I love you. You're the love of my life. That's

5:13

what fed me to continue

5:15

this forward with him. All of us would have fed

5:18

into that. I mean, he's my fiance.

5:21

This is a relationship. He's my partner. I trust

5:23

his words. And you know, I

5:26

fell for it. And you

5:28

know, showing up to the breakup, I'm

5:31

like, oh, these cameras. But we still made that commitment that

5:33

we were going to work through it. And you

5:35

know, when he actually sat down and told me

5:37

more

5:38

of half of the truth he's

5:40

been telling me, which he couldn't give me a full heart.

5:43

I was like, I'm topping out, sorry. I

5:45

got to go back to Hannah Brown because you

5:47

brought it up at

5:49

tonight at AFR. So it's obviously something

5:52

that bothered you. And then in talking about

5:54

it tonight, I guess I still feel like I

5:56

don't understand. I know he said that he reached

5:59

out or wanted to.

5:59

to talk to her for closure. But

6:02

how did y'all in that, were you just like,

6:04

okay, yes, talk to her. Did

6:06

you ask again, hey, have you talked to her? Like

6:09

what?

6:10

Okay, he said it to you, but then what? The

6:12

reason why that was brought up is because it

6:15

wasn't just one woman involved that

6:17

we were having to discuss. It was, you know,

6:20

he proposed to me still being in love with

6:22

Madison and still needing closure with Hannah

6:24

Brown. Completely blindsided to that. There's

6:26

three women involved in this. And

6:28

that was brought up because that was

6:30

a huge part of our

6:32

relationship with him trying to convince me

6:35

that he needed closure and that I should be understanding

6:37

of that. And I'm like, gosh.

6:39

But that's what I want to talk about is trying

6:42

to convince you. Yeah. Yeah.

6:45

Like help us understand that. Like what I

6:47

don't necessarily need to understand what

6:49

he was saying to you to convince you, but

6:52

how did that, did he say, oh, I talked to

6:54

her or were you, did you say, okay, I give you my

6:56

blessing. Did you ever follow up and say, have

6:59

you talked to her? What happened? Are

7:01

you good? They

7:02

on some level had communicated

7:04

and he came to me saying, you know, I

7:06

need to speak with Hannah Brown because I need closure.

7:08

And I'm like, well, why do you need

7:10

closure? Like why? Yeah. And

7:13

I was like, wait, didn't you have that on the show? I

7:16

should, we should probably watch this episode. Once

7:18

I watched episode, I'm like, well,

7:21

where do you're feeling standing? He's like, well, we're engaged.

7:24

But I, you know, we both just need Hannah Brown

7:26

both just need closure. And I'm just like, okay, well,

7:29

can I, is this in person? Is this on

7:31

and off camera? No, off camera.

7:33

I'm like, okay. Um, I kind

7:35

of feel uncomfortable after watching that

7:37

last episode. And now you're saying you need closure.

7:39

That kind of doesn't really sit well with me. We're engaged.

7:42

Like we're not just dating, we're engaged. So

7:44

what happened? How did it end? It

7:46

ended and him saying that he needed

7:49

it and then I needed to support him. And I'm just like,

7:51

um, I don't know how I quite feel

7:53

about that. And then shortly after that, that was where

7:56

the whole, we were

7:57

shifted to our other issue

7:59

of him.

7:59

I'm feeling like he had unresolved

8:02

issues in regards to watching the show.

8:04

So if there was so many issues going

8:06

on, I was miserable. I'm just like

8:09

trying to figure out who can I talk to? Who can

8:11

I like figure out? Like am I

8:13

just being,

8:16

am I being too sensitive or

8:19

am I not being treated how I deserve?

8:22

No, okay, coming from somebody

8:24

who has been in your shoes, there

8:27

are so many weird factors to

8:29

starting out this sort of relationship where you don't

8:31

know where to turn and to add in

8:33

all these added things. Hannah

8:35

Brown shouldn't have even been an issue

8:37

at that point that you should have had to deal with. It shouldn't

8:40

have even been an argument at that point. And

8:42

this is like the season's going on. Like how

8:44

about checking up on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling.

8:47

Then you're just having all these issues, seeing

8:50

Madison in your first day, seeing Hannah

8:52

Brown, now you need to talk to her. It's

8:54

like, golly, like I'm in my own rock.

8:56

Do you think part of him still loved Hannah Brown

8:59

in that moment? Yeah, I

9:01

think he had unresolved issues. Back then

9:04

or still in January? I think still in

9:06

January. When he was with you. Yeah,

9:08

and that was the argument. Did

9:10

he say that he was in love with her? No,

9:13

he just said he needed to talk with her and I'm just like,

9:16

what? Like we're

9:18

engaged. Like I thought

9:20

that

9:20

we've moved, I thought you've

9:22

moved past all of that. Like I've been completely blindsided.

9:25

Like here I am, I don't need to be contacting

9:28

two exes about having

9:30

closure. Like I'm here, I'm ready for you. And

9:32

like, although I wasn't able

9:34

to see the whole season, like the audiences

9:36

now, like

9:38

I was blindsided to any of this.

9:40

Well, and you should have been his number one priority.

9:43

That's where his heart and his worry

9:46

and his attention should have lied.

9:49

Is that the right, should have lied, should have lied,

9:51

whatever, you know, grammar here. But

9:55

you should have been the number one priority in

9:57

his life and it seems like

9:59

multiple things were. taken that away and I feel

10:01

free because I get that and it's such a shitty

10:03

feeling. And where you say you wanted to be that

10:05

support system, you wanted to get through together

10:07

and like you as a woman in this position,

10:10

it's like you still hurt and you

10:12

still struggle but you don't know who to talk to

10:14

because you can't talk to most people

10:16

about it. And if he's struggling, you

10:18

can't talk to him constantly about it because

10:20

he's trying to work through his own shit. And

10:22

so who did you talk to? Who did you lean

10:25

on?

10:26

Really, it was, you

10:27

know what? I didn't even tell, I

10:30

did not even tell my parents until after

10:32

our breakup because

10:34

I knew deep down my parents would have said, get

10:38

out and run. Run for the hills, dodge

10:40

that bullet. So no one

10:42

really.

10:43

I mean, I was trying to,

10:45

you know, for me, I made that commitment to him

10:47

and I thought we were going to be teammates. Like this is what we

10:50

work through together. This

10:52

shouldn't divide us. This should make us stronger.

10:55

And that was kind of what I always tried

10:57

to do. And you know, in

10:59

a breakup, I said, you know, this has to

11:01

be 50 50 and I haven't

11:03

been feeling that. You made a comment

11:06

during that breakup and I loved it because

11:08

it stuck with me. You said, I am my own

11:10

rock. And in that moment I was sitting there like,

11:12

yes, girl.

11:13

Like if you're not getting what you need in this relationship

11:15

and he can't promise all of the things he has told you,

11:17

you have to be your own rock. And so yeah,

11:20

good for you. I mean, I'm sure that it

11:22

came as a blind side and probably one of the hardest

11:25

breakups because it's not easy when you know, millions

11:27

of people are watching, but you,

11:29

you seem like you

11:31

still have that strength. And so kudos to you

11:33

like that. I'm very proud of you and I get

11:35

it. And I will say this, like we still have much to talk about,

11:37

but I will say

11:39

this is going to be one of the hardest moments in your life,

11:41

but you will be just fine

11:44

in the future and have all the faith that you will. Like you, this

11:46

will only make you stronger and realize what you truly

11:48

deserve in a relationship.

11:50

Yeah, I think you already have, you

11:52

know, we set it at the top of the podcast. You

11:54

won tonight and not just

11:56

because you saw what kind of unraveled

11:59

after.

11:59

You were on stage, but just because

12:04

maybe you had your voice before, but we

12:06

saw you find your voice and you were

12:08

very matter of fact and you were

12:10

very, it

12:11

was like, you knew exactly what you needed

12:14

to say and what he needed to hear. And

12:16

he literally couldn't respond to it. He

12:18

couldn't defend himself because it was kind

12:20

of like, you're right. You're right. And

12:23

you stood up to him and said, you took these

12:25

moments away from me that I can't get back.

12:27

And you said, you know what, I'm going to be okay because I'm

12:30

going to get myself through it. Like

12:33

you can't depend on somebody else. You realize

12:35

like in those moments, you realize you're stronger

12:37

than you think. So like kudos to you.

12:40

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12:41

on TV right now, but like, I

12:44

think America is going to see how

12:46

you responded. They already are right. Like

12:48

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12:50

we speak. Oh, people are probably then

12:52

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12:55

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12:58

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13:14

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and then the second half was kind of what happened

15:38

after and I'm

15:40

pretty sure you saw how supportive

15:43

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15:45

you watched it last night or you

15:47

saw tonight how she was clapping every single time

15:49

you were missing she mentioned she was

15:51

clapping every time you responded to

15:54

Peter like against her own son.

15:56

She was clapping for you. Oh

15:58

she was eyeing him down. She was giving.

15:59

I know and she was like waving

16:02

to me and I'm just like, oh my, like, oh.

16:04

So I think people

16:06

want to know the love that she has for you and

16:09

the love that she has for you is because you love

16:11

her son or loved her

16:13

son unconditionally. And that's

16:16

all a mother really wants to see. And

16:19

I get they're not in the relationship

16:21

and that's a whole, you know, you and Peter have your own

16:23

relationship outside of that. But that's what a mother

16:25

wants for her child. And she saw that in you.

16:28

Have you talked to Barb since then? Tell

16:29

the truth. Talk to Barb. And

16:32

by that, I mean, I'm talking DMs.

16:35

I'm talking comments. I'm talking texts.

16:38

Barb, after our breakup, she definitely reached

16:40

out a couple of times. I ended

16:43

up, you know, I love Barb. I do

16:45

too. Honestly, I could break down crying

16:47

just thinking about her right now because I miss

16:49

her so much. But I knew

16:51

that

16:52

forgiveness is the only way forward. And I needed

16:55

to work on leading up to this day to forgive

16:57

Peter and to move forward. And doing that

16:59

is, you know, isolating myself from

17:02

anyone close to him. And I can't, you

17:04

know, continue to talk to Barb every day, you know,

17:06

if I'm trying to move forward from Peter.

17:09

And, you know, that's been also a heartbreak,

17:12

you know, not being able to, you

17:14

know, be a part of Barb in her life. I mean,

17:16

that's also a heartbreak and a breakup in its

17:19

own self. And, you know, Barb,

17:22

she's a really special person and she's just looking

17:24

out for her son. She just wants someone to love her son.

17:27

To root for his own happiness and to, you

17:30

know, be in a relationship with him for the right reasons.

17:32

I love to hear you say that because she's getting

17:35

such a bad rap because of,

17:38

like, I understood where her heart

17:40

was and what she was saying. Maybe

17:42

she went just a little too far. But

17:45

I know she was coming from a good place and

17:48

people are so crazed over

17:50

Madison

17:51

that nobody is listening

17:53

to what she's actually saying. So

17:55

it's very nice to hear you give

17:58

a different side in a softer,

17:59

side of her. Becca and I both talked to Barb

18:02

as well. We adore her. And

18:04

it's just a shame kind of what I

18:06

knew tonight she was being very defensive

18:09

because of the hate that she's receiving online.

18:12

And she's just trying to tell her side of it.

18:14

And it's just not being received at all. Yeah.

18:18

I mean, quite honestly, I mean, this has come from

18:20

an ex-fiance of Peter's, but I mean, you

18:23

know, Peter deserves the world

18:25

and deserves someone that will love him

18:28

with their whole heart and be there for the right

18:30

reasons. And that's where

18:32

me and Barb, you know, connect. Okay.

18:34

I'm going to ask you, do you think that that's

18:36

Madison?

18:39

I don't know her heart. I don't know. I

18:42

don't know if I

18:44

guess I never really knew if she loved him or not. I mean, she

18:46

walked away from him, but for me,

18:48

I love Peter

18:50

and I was never going to leave his side even

18:52

through the worst. And I think that's what Barb's

18:55

all in me. And that's what she, you know, that's what any mother

18:57

wants for their son is someone to

18:59

be with them. That's going to unconditionally love them.

19:01

I want to know now since, cause tonight

19:04

was the first time you saw Peter and his family

19:06

since the end of January. Oh, I could

19:08

barely look over at his family. I knew I

19:10

looked over at his family. I was just going to start crying.

19:13

But how was in that moment

19:16

sitting next to him, did

19:18

you still have those

19:19

feelings of some

19:22

sort of lingering love or are you

19:24

now to the point, I guess I want to know

19:26

where you're at. Like, are you at the point where

19:29

you're like, I wish you the best. I mean, as

19:31

much as it sucked, thank you for doing what you were doing.

19:33

Yes. Yeah.

19:36

I'll always have, you know, a special place

19:38

for him, but I mean, he's betrayed

19:41

me, misled me. And that

19:43

alone has, and

19:46

watching back the season, that

19:49

really resolved a lot of like

19:52

extra feelings I had for him. I mean, just,

19:54

I'm watching a play by play of me getting deceived.

19:58

And that alone was, you know,

19:59

a slap in the face and it's helped me move

20:02

forward. But to be honest,

20:04

when I looked over at his family, yeah, I did

20:06

wanna start to cry. And just, I felt like me and

20:09

Peter

20:11

just had this awesome

20:13

situation and it was

20:16

like stripped

20:18

away from me so quickly. It was a future

20:20

that I lost, but more importantly,

20:22

it was the loss of a person I thought he

20:24

was. And I think that's what

20:27

I'm

20:27

grieving over is the person I thought he was

20:30

telling me to trust him. And the words he gave

20:33

me that I trusted in were completely,

20:38

I don't know if you wanna call it lies or if you just

20:40

wanna call it shallow. Well, that we all

20:42

thought. Yeah. I mean,

20:44

it's been very difficult. I can only imagine,

20:46

and I think that that's what's so therapeutic

20:49

for Becca to be here in this podcast and to

20:51

talk to you because she knows exactly what

20:53

it is that you're going through. I'm a

20:55

viewer, I only watch it, and I can only empathize

20:57

with you. It's troubling

21:00

because we talked to Peter

21:03

before the season, or while he was still

21:05

filming, and then right when the season

21:08

started. And I

21:10

remember we were saying that more

21:12

than anything for him, we wanted him to find

21:14

love because we know how badly he wanted it. And

21:17

we know that he wanted someone to love him unconditionally.

21:20

That's what he said, that's what he told us. And

21:22

he had it. And

21:25

then he let it go. And

21:27

then he

21:28

still doesn't have it. I mean, let's just be

21:30

honest. I saw what I saw tonight. He

21:33

still doesn't have, he said it, you

21:35

loved him in a way that he has never been loved before.

21:38

Well,

21:39

I would assume that that means the present. Did

21:41

he not say that tonight? You

21:43

loved me in a way that he hasn't loved before. Literally

21:46

you're in a reli... I don't know what he is with Madison

21:48

because we still didn't get a

21:50

definitive answer on that. But

21:52

basically, he was still saying you loved

21:54

him in a way that she didn't. And that's what

21:56

you wanted. And you had it. And then you

21:58

still chased something.

21:59

Which don't get me started on how I think

22:02

that's the issue with men That's why the Bachelors are not

22:04

successful because they're always chasing something

22:06

that they can never get and that's

22:08

why we only have only had two That are married

22:11

at this point and

22:15

Well, I don't I don't play the Yes,

22:19

of course I'm still like rare

22:22

beautiful fine. No, I

22:24

don't play the whole chasing game I mean, I

22:26

understand you can't you know

22:28

Give to me and everything they want but also at the same

22:30

time. I don't play games I either like you or I don't

22:33

you know what I say to you. I mean, I'm

22:36

very clear I'm concise and I

22:38

expect that in return. Yeah, that's my standards

22:46

Just be

22:47

honest with me, I'm gonna be honest with you

22:49

back you guys girls on this show

22:51

all they want is honesty Why

22:53

have they not learned that don't

22:55

drag me along and that's what's so

22:58

troubling about what happened This season

23:00

is Peter you came from a season

23:03

where the lead

23:04

all she wanted was to be loved

23:07

and not done conditionally

23:15

You came Peter

23:17

came from a season where there

23:20

was a lead who was saying I just want to be loved and I

23:22

want Someone to give that to me unconditionally

23:24

and Peter gave that to her and then

23:26

she chose jid Which

23:29

I can just put a period there. We all know what came with

23:31

that And I would think

23:33

that going through that hurt

23:35

that you come into your season saying I

23:37

want to make sure that I don't make That same mistake.

23:40

Yeah, and here you are it is sucks

23:42

to be in a place of wondering and here He

23:44

is in a place where now it's like

23:46

unknown. You don't know you're wondering

23:48

and with you He didn't have that and

23:50

what also mess makes

23:53

me so upset is when we talked to him

23:55

He said remember this Becca You

23:58

know, who did you first?

23:59

two things. Who did you

24:02

pick? Because he was still with you at this point. And

24:04

I think we were like, who did you pick? Who did you pick?

24:06

He's like, oh, I can't tell you. Then he said, we might've

24:09

said, did you always know? We talked about like our

24:11

own situation. And he said, he

24:14

has known since week four,

24:16

who his person was. Well, he was with you. Yeah.

24:19

Yeah. Like the season, I don't even think an episode,

24:21

when we filmed it, an episode had not aired yet.

24:24

So he was talking about you. So you

24:26

have known from week four, there are nine, 10

24:28

weeks of filming. So for

24:29

what, how do the math

24:32

six weeks, you knew exactly who it

24:34

was that you were going to pick. Yet you

24:36

still

24:37

went back in time and you watched

24:39

it and you put yourself like it's like, Becca

24:42

and I can talk about this. It's the classic thing of the league. You

24:44

watch it, but you never go back and put your put

24:46

yourself in it because months have passed

24:49

since you felt those same emotions. It's

24:51

insane. And it's, and it's a weird thing

24:53

when you watch it back, when you're going on certain dates with

24:55

certain people, sometimes it's easy

24:57

to like feel the feelings you felt in that

25:00

moment. Like, but

25:03

be smarter. Like realize

25:05

that was months ago, you came

25:07

to this decision and these choices for

25:10

a certain reason. And for

25:12

him, I hoped that in the moment he saw like

25:15

how different him and Maddie were. Like you

25:17

were everything he was saying he wanted.

25:19

And so that's where I think it's harder for the

25:21

men to separate themselves and to

25:23

realize, well, that was so long ago.

25:26

And I can't like I, and

25:28

this is one thing that Ari kept saying too that I'm not sure

25:30

if Peter said, but he wanted to,

25:32

um,

25:33

what was the phrase he used? He

25:35

wanted to like feel out

25:37

all of the relationships till the very end

25:40

to go through everything, to get to that point where he knew

25:42

who,

25:44

who it was or what his decision would be. And it's

25:47

like, they watched this back and they had this skewed

25:50

timeline in their minds and they think that it's

25:53

really happening when in reality, like, no, this

25:55

happened three months ago. And

25:58

my question is, and this is what I want and

26:00

this is not related to what I'm talking about right now. But if

26:02

you were Maddie, granted you guys are very different people,

26:05

if you were in her position, would you take

26:07

him back?

26:09

After everything went down in Tucson, I'll

26:11

play out how I did, would you take him back? And

26:14

you know, if you look back on the season, you see

26:17

Peter's pattern of behavior being

26:19

consistently indecisive and

26:21

confused and

26:24

I'd be running for the hills. Yeah, exactly.

26:26

I mean, I would, I mean, even girl, even if he's

26:28

saying he's loving you and all this stuff, I mean, look

26:30

at his pattern of behavior. The one

26:33

consistency he has ever had is

26:35

being confused, conflicted

26:38

and torn. His consistency

26:40

is inconsistency. Yes, and if you wanna

26:42

ride that emotional roller coaster with him,

26:44

go for it. I just got off of it and

26:46

it's a wild ride. Wait, do you think? I

26:48

wonder how this is gonna be. It's a wild ride

26:51

with Peter Weber.

26:58

If

26:59

things for when, again, we don't know

27:01

what the deal is with him and Madison at this point. If

27:03

things don't work out, do you think he

27:05

would come back to you? Because we saw it, he still

27:08

isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was

27:10

never over Madison. Honestly,

27:12

you guys, I don't put anything past Peter

27:14

Weber. I don't, he's just like

27:17

so all over the place. He's so lost. You

27:19

ended it perfectly when you were like, Peter, Hannah's

27:22

like enough. I know, he was like,

27:24

what? It's already a man. Like don't give me that confused

27:26

face any longer. I had enough and that's why,

27:28

it was such

27:29

a powerful moment. No, your words

27:31

don't mean anything. They have no weight at this

27:33

point. I think

27:35

it's gonna be interesting to see where you go from

27:37

here because again, you won tonight.

27:39

Aw, thank you. No, truly, the indecisiveness

27:43

is not something that anybody wants to see

27:45

their friend, daughter, sister,

27:48

whatever go through. And I think

27:50

that watching this back, you're like, that's not the type

27:52

of man that I thought Peter was and that's not what I wanna sign

27:54

up for. And it's very troubling for us I like

27:56

Peter, I think. Yeah. I considered him

27:58

a little brother.

27:59

But when I look at what's happening

28:02

now in his situation with Madison, it's something

28:04

we've said from the beginning. The men like

28:06

the idea of some idea, but not the reality.

28:08

And they don't think about who works in real life. And

28:11

they just get caught up in this fantasy. And once the

28:13

bubble is burst, then it doesn't

28:15

work. And I just don't know how this situation

28:18

can work. The problem is, is that when we talk to

28:20

Bachelor Nation, we're talking to a room full of hopeless

28:22

romantics

28:23

and they just see a love story and that's what they wish

28:26

for. And they don't think logistically, like how

28:28

this can work and the reality of the situation.

28:30

And I think that when we end this podcast and

28:33

you move on and you go home, actually

28:35

I think I said you moved to LA, we'll talk about that in a second. But

28:38

when you leave here, you're gonna see how

28:40

people are going to rally behind you and how you

28:42

were strong and you were an example. And mothers

28:44

are gonna say, that's what I want my daughter to be. And I want

28:47

her to respond to men like that and

28:49

know her self worth and not compromise

28:51

who she is, which is the title they're giving Madison,

28:53

which

28:55

can I just say is such a contradiction.

28:57

We are crowning Madison because she knows who she is

29:00

and she doesn't wanna compromise her

29:02

values for somebody, but I'm sorry for her to

29:04

go back to Peter. Is that not exactly what she just

29:06

did? Don't get me started. Anyways,

29:11

I've got somewhere with this. I was saying people are gonna rally

29:13

behind you for what you did and

29:15

they should. Then you're going to have the people

29:17

who are fanatics and they're gonna rally behind

29:20

Madison and Peter as hopeless romantics. But

29:22

then you're gonna see a lot of hate also. And

29:24

the villain,

29:25

unfortunately, and in my opinion

29:27

unnecessarily has become Barb because

29:30

of what happened the first

29:32

night of the finale, the first part and then into the second

29:34

part. Do you

29:37

agree with the online hate

29:39

that Barb is getting and that she's going to continue

29:41

to get? I think that's complete. The

29:43

online hate Barb's getting is completely unnecessary.

29:46

I mean, take that hate somewhere else. She's looking

29:48

after for her son and no one

29:50

needs to judge her for that

29:52

ever. And everyone loves their babies. Everyone

29:54

I think in that position they need to

29:56

back off of her. Yeah, they would want the very best

29:59

for their son or daughter.

29:59

Hannah Ann, as Rachel said,

30:02

you... Oh, I'm sorry!

30:05

I interrupt this program

30:08

to let you know. Remember I said people

30:10

are gonna rally behind you? Okay, I

30:13

guess I was a little too general, not people.

30:17

Someone has said, quote, I love

30:20

Hannah Ann with four exclamation points. Who,

30:23

give it to us, Rach.

30:25

Who was the one person you'd wanna hear from? Who's iconic?

30:28

Who's iconic

30:30

in this day and age? I don't know, tell me, tell

30:32

me. Starts with a K. K.

30:36

I'm gonna say a Kardashian. It is. What?

30:39

Would you like to guess which one?

30:42

Is it Chris? Is it the mom of

30:44

her? No. Kylie? Kim?

30:48

Kim. Kim. Kardashian West

30:50

said 21 minutes ago, quote,

30:53

I love Hannah Ann, exclamation

30:55

point. I mean, in the podcast. Kim

30:58

Kardashian wasn't already winning. Damn.

31:01

Kim Kardashian West, can Hannah Ann get

31:04

some skims? So what

31:06

else are we selling here? It's amazing. And

31:08

it's like extra so I can get some too.

31:11

That's huge. Oh wow, wow. That's huge.

31:14

I would not even think the queen herself, Kim Kardashian.

31:16

Oh my gosh. Christian is a huge fan of the

31:18

show. Oh really? Yeah, so they all

31:20

watch it. Yeah, like Kylie,

31:23

all of them. Oh wow. Listen, if

31:25

another boss, I'm sorry, we curse

31:27

on this podcast. If one boss ass

31:29

bitch is going to tell you that you're a boss,

31:32

you better wear the crown. Oh my gosh. Again,

31:35

you say, winner, you won tonight.

31:38

My goodness. I promise

31:41

you this, you are gonna wake up tomorrow. And

31:44

first of all, your phone is gonna be blowing up. So maybe

31:46

turn it off, take some time for yourself, but

31:48

you are gonna look at headlines and

31:50

your name is gonna be splattered across

31:52

so many of them

31:54

in the best

31:56

way. As Rachel said, people are gonna rally behind you. People are

31:58

gonna want you. to find so

32:00

much love, you are gonna be infiltrated

32:02

with so much support when I say that

32:05

you think like what went down was

32:07

the hardest moment in your life. It's gonna

32:09

get so much better. And there's gonna be so many

32:11

moments where you're gonna be blindsided

32:14

in the best possible way and your breath is gonna be taken

32:16

away because you're gonna be like, oh my gosh, this person

32:19

gave me these kind words

32:21

and they want me to find love. They want me to find

32:23

a partner. Like it's gonna

32:25

be in the weirdest way as possible. You can hear and imagine. So

32:28

many crazy cool things have come, I mean,

32:31

from my breakup, which was the

32:33

weirdest moment in my life. But like

32:36

your heart is gonna be filled in ways that Peter could

32:38

never have filled it. I'll tell you that.

32:41

I love that. I really do.

32:43

But now we have to hear what is next in your

32:45

life. Are you moving to LA? Yeah,

32:47

I actually moved this week. So like,

32:50

I was like, just buying me a one way ticket.

32:52

And so I move in literally Thursday.

32:55

Good for you. For me, I

32:57

gotta keep it moving. The

33:00

situation's unfortunate. And I

33:02

gave myself a good couple of days

33:04

and cried nonstop. And then after that, I'm

33:06

like, okay. Peter wasted, and

33:08

I love you. He wasted

33:11

an engagement, but he's not wasting any more of my

33:13

tears. I gotta focus

33:15

and move forward. You're gonna

33:17

be an inspiration to so many girls out

33:19

there. And even for me,

33:21

somebody who has been in a similar position, I looked

33:24

up to you tonight and I really, I rallied

33:27

behind you and I truly do

33:29

want the best for you. But to see how you handled

33:32

that situation and that darkness, what everyone has

33:34

been through a breakup. Everyone has felt that

33:37

sadness and that darkness.

33:39

And they felt like, where do I

33:41

turn to now? And they're gonna look up to you and they will reach

33:43

out to you. And so you are gonna be a point of light for them.

33:45

And that's something really special. Aw, thank

33:48

you. Listen, you two definitely

33:50

need to, I mean, you talk to me too, but I'm just saying like, you guys

33:52

share something that other people, the broken

33:54

engagement plan happened in

33:56

a way. And you see what's happening with Bea, because she's

33:58

glowing.

33:58

Like this is, well, you're glowing.

33:59

I'm just saying like this could be you too. And

34:02

I think also you said something about he took

34:04

away this moment

34:07

for you and this engagement. Don't look at it

34:09

that way because honestly if you didn't take

34:11

away your self worth, but also he really didn't take this engagement away

34:13

from you because

34:16

he never really gave himself to you in that moment. You're

34:18

right. Just think of it like that. He didn't take that away

34:20

from you. You still have that. So hold on to

34:22

that. I was so, I mean, it was so,

34:25

so proud of you in that moment. So,

34:28

and moving on, you got LA, you got a new place.

34:29

You know, you have this new platform.

34:33

Yeah. You have an agent. Hopefully soon.

34:35

Hopefully. Pick her up. Oh, I'm

34:37

sorry. Did you not already have an

34:39

agent like somebody else? Do you

34:41

not already have an agent in this situation? Rachel's

34:44

been waiting to talk about that. I'm so, please don't

34:46

get me started. I don't have an agent right now. So

34:49

it's not, so not everybody comes off the bachelor

34:51

with an agent. No.

34:52

We'll come back to that part in a second.

34:55

I was going to say, and if anyone needs to know who Rachel

34:57

is talking about, there's only two

34:59

girls on stage tonight and it's not Hannah Ann. I

35:02

don't have anyone right now. I'm

35:04

just, I was just trying to focus on getting through

35:06

this past week. You know, I mean,

35:09

I left that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces

35:11

and I've taken time to like rebuild myself

35:13

and you know what? I'm still rebuilding. I'm still,

35:15

you know, feeling pain every day, but you know, I'm

35:18

strong and just like I told Peter, I'm a rock.

35:21

And I'll

35:23

get through it while he's kicking rocks. So we're

35:25

not looking

35:28

for love.

35:29

You're just like all about loving

35:31

yourself. I have not dated. I've

35:34

just been surrounding myself with like friends

35:36

and family that are consistent

35:38

and that are true to their word and that are nice

35:41

and uplifting. But hey, you know, love's

35:43

definitely in my future, hopefully with

35:45

the right person, right? It better be the right guy. Cause

35:48

now I have like this big sister mentality

35:50

over you. And so it will be taking

35:52

shit from any guy. You're stronger.

35:55

Like you're stronger than you think you've learned so much from this opportunity.

35:57

Like we're so excited to see.

35:59

where you go from here. You're in

36:01

LA, the land of opportunity. But in the end,

36:04

I do live in Southern California now. So just

36:06

know when I'm done with this bachelor, I'm on stage tour.

36:08

I'm taking you, invite Kelsey to, we're

36:11

going to have to put you on the ball. It's

36:13

okay. I'm making you date me. Yeah,

36:16

no, I would love that. Well, and it's crazy. Cause like after

36:18

our breakup, I thought about you every single

36:20

day. Every single day. And this

36:22

is great. Why did you reach out to me? You

36:25

know, you know, confidentiality

36:27

and you know, I thought about you. And I

36:29

knew there

36:29

would be the right time. You really are a good bachelor.

36:32

You are the best. You are the best. Thank

36:34

you guys. Okay, I'm going to give you a number

36:36

after this. We will chat and- I seriously,

36:38

this

36:38

is great. I'm like every day. And

36:41

you know, I wish I would have known. I mean,

36:43

I kind of heard inkling, it's like in the past couple

36:45

of days, but I really do wish I would have known earlier.

36:48

Because 1000% I would have DMD, I would have reached

36:50

out. Oh my shit, I'm a

36:52

little emotional. That was like really beautiful. I'm just

36:54

so glad you guys could have this moment. Well, listen, we're

36:57

going to let them have this moment off

36:59

mic. We're going to end this podcast,

37:01

but I just have to say it is

37:03

such a pleasure to get to talk to you. I

37:05

have to say, like I said, at the beginning, I was

37:08

wrong. We started off the

37:08

podcast talking about that, but it

37:11

has really been a great thing to see you

37:13

find your voice and to see you grow and to see

37:15

where you go from here. So again, you

37:17

won the day. You did. Thank you guys

37:19

for having me. Well, thank you for being here. I mean,

37:21

I can never top Rachel because she's just so good with

37:24

words. But, Haman, you really, you

37:26

are a

37:27

light to so many people. I

37:29

really looked up to you tonight, even though I could be like

37:31

your

37:32

much, much older sister. But thank

37:34

you for being you. Thank you for standing

37:37

your ground and showing girls out there what

37:39

a strong voice can be.

37:41

And I wish you all the best. I have no

37:43

worries that you will be just fine in your

37:46

future, but thank you. I'm glad

37:48

that we were your first podcast and we stole your podcast

37:50

virginity. Yep. Yeah, my podcast

37:52

virginity. Paradise? Oh

37:55

gosh, I don't know. I just have to ask. I'm

37:58

not sure what the future holds, but.

38:00

It's going to be better than what I've had. She's being

38:02

cool. You got to know who knows why. No, it has

38:04

to be better. You got to answer Bachelorette

38:06

in like 2022. You'll be 25.

38:09

You got to wait a second. You got to

38:10

wait a second for Bachelorette. That's what we are

38:12

doing. She's coming. Oh, wait a second.

38:14

I mean, who knows? But it's going to be better

38:16

than what I've had. And that's what I hold on

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to. No, that's right. All right, you guys.

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Thank you so much for tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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As you can see, we had such a great time

38:25

just hanging out after the final

38:27

rose, talking to Hannah Ann. She's just been so

38:30

open and honest with us and giving us all

38:32

the tea as well. She did not hold back. So

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thank you so much for being here with us. And like

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we said, we just can't wait to see what you have going

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on for you in the future. We're fans. Huge

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fans. Yes.

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