0:02

What's a bachelor happy hour. I'm

0:04

Becca Cooper, and I'm Michelle Young.

0:06

And we are back again this week

0:08

with a double episode recap

0:11

as we get into everything with

0:13

hometowns with the families and also

0:16

the women at Tell Aly. And then

0:18

very shortly, we're gonna I feel like we're gonna

0:20

do our little own women till all over here in

0:22

happy hour because we are gonna have our

0:24

girls, Brooklyn, Mercedes, and Allianz

0:27

very shortly. Yes, we're

0:29

so excited. We have so much to talk

0:31

about and so much to speak to them

0:33

about their experience. At the Tell

0:35

All Plus, we are getting all of their

0:37

thoughts on the insanely exciting announcement

0:39

of our new Bachelor's

0:42

Charity. Yay. Oh

0:44

my gosh. It feels so good to finally

0:47

be able to talk about that. And

0:50

What were your thoughts when you

0:52

saw that charity was announced? I

0:55

feel like we manifested this. I was like,

0:57

yes. It works. Because back those

0:59

for, like, who who have been listening will

1:01

understand that Beck and I have been, like, campaigning

1:03

for charity. I think, really, like,

1:06

putting it out there in the universe for her to

1:08

be the next bachelorette. Yes.

1:10

And so I was like, damn right?

1:12

So deserving, and then I texted her in two

1:14

seconds.

1:15

Yeah. I'm so happy for

1:17

her. And and we

1:20

like, if anyone hasn't listened to the episode

1:22

a few weeks ago and we had charity on happy

1:24

hour, I would tell you to go

1:26

back, stop listening to this one right now. Come

1:28

back to this one, but go back and listen to Charity's

1:31

episode because she is just

1:33

such an incredible, well rounded woman

1:35

so deserving And and Aly, like,

1:37

I think anyone from this season would have

1:39

been very deserving to be in that position,

1:41

but especially charity and Also,

1:44

like, it's been several years since we've seen

1:46

a lead of color. It's about damn time.

1:49

I'm so excited for Charity. I

1:51

feel like she is just gonna bring something

1:53

totally new to be in the lead.

1:56

And so I cannot wait. I

1:59

I'm absolutely thrilled for her. I

2:01

messed her in a second. I'm sending you much bored out

2:03

and you gotta pop these bottles before you start filming

2:05

which I think is gonna be like very soon.

2:07

She has such a quick turnaround, so she is probably

2:10

deep in interviews and

2:13

fittings, figuring out all of her beautiful

2:16

gown. She's gonna wear twelve of those rose

2:18

ceremonies. But, yeah,

2:20

Charity, if you were listening, we're so thrilled for

2:22

you and we support you. And

2:24

we are so excited to see

2:26

you

2:27

Hopefully, fingers crossed find the one

2:30

during your time as the lead.

2:32

That's crazy. They would have picked

2:33

some good men for her. Otherwise I'm

2:35

coming after them. They better. I

2:37

know. I know. And I feel like they've

2:39

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2:42

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2:44

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2:46

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2:49

at the end of every happy hour, we always announce

2:51

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2:53

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2:55

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So before we you know, bring the

4:52

women on and talk about the Tell All and this

4:54

big reveal. Let's get into hometowns a little

4:56

bit because we did have these back

4:58

to back episodes What

5:01

were what were your takeaways from hometowns? Did

5:03

you have a favorite hometown date out of

5:05

the four

5:06

women? Hometowns are

5:08

always such an interesting episode

5:10

to watch because you

5:13

see how the families are able to

5:15

kind of just take the whole

5:17

premise of the show or not take the

5:19

premise of the show. And it

5:22

it's so interesting as a viewer, but even

5:24

just as a lead or a contestant,

5:27

hometowns a lot of times are what make

5:29

or break the relationship. And

5:32

especially when it's early

5:34

in a relationship as far as timeline

5:37

goes. You've only been together

5:39

for a certain period of time And

5:42

I thought it was so interesting with

5:44

Ariel's hometown and

5:47

her dad and her brother. She really

5:49

did kind of prepare Zach with how intense

5:52

that could potentially get. Mhmm. What

5:54

are your thoughts on aerials? I think it was

5:56

brother, dad, that asked Zach,

5:59

right off the bat, how do you

6:01

actually do you actually really know

6:04

my sister? Do you was his

6:05

brother?

6:05

I'm pretty sure it was her brother because then he was asking,

6:08

like, do you know when her birthday Birthday is what's

6:10

her middle name. Yeah. And

6:12

it it that's always such a hard question because

6:14

it seems like it's the little which the little things

6:16

are important. But when you're in a show like

6:18

this, you really do just jump down to the nitty

6:20

gritty right away. Mhmm. But

6:23

what I that didn't really hold as much weight

6:25

for me when Zach didn't know those answers, but

6:27

what's interesting is when then

6:30

there was a question of why

6:33

why should my sister pick you?

6:35

Mhmm. Why why are you the best for her?

6:37

Why are you the best? And you

6:39

know what I'm gonna say? And the answer

6:41

was I have a big heart and I'm a really

6:44

good cook. And that's where I was

6:46

like, oh, it

6:48

was just

6:49

I felt for well, it's hard because that was

6:51

also the first hometown. So, you know, we have to

6:54

also give him a

6:54

break. That was the second one. That was

6:56

the excuse of the first time. was a nappy

6:58

first. Eric was, like,

7:00

I can't even give him the I can't even give

7:03

him the excuse of, like, it's your first home

7:05

time, getting your hometown legs. But it is intense.

7:07

It's an intense situation, so you might not have the best

7:09

answers. But what was your thought on Zach's answer

7:11

of why he would be the

7:13

best of it?

7:14

Well, first of all, I think her brother

7:16

did ask very valid questions

7:19

that, yes, if my sibling was

7:21

on the show, I would wanna ask the same

7:23

things. And so I understand. I

7:27

just wish he would have maybe taken a

7:29

beat and given a more thoughtful

7:32

answer in terms of what

7:34

Ariel's brother was asking. But,

7:37

you know, I mean, like, from a viewer

7:40

standpoint, it was uncomfortable

7:42

to watch. Yeah. It was it but it but

7:44

like that's why we watch the show at times. Right?

7:46

And so not every hometown is gonna go

7:49

super smooth. Like, he he did start out

7:51

on a very high foot, I would say with Gabby's

7:54

family. I would say out of all four of them,

7:56

Ariel's family definitely seemed

7:58

the most difficult, the most uncomfortable. All

8:01

the others for the most part seemed like

8:03

pretty smooth sailing. I would say,

8:07

I would love to highlight Charity's

8:10

hometown because she had a bigger

8:12

hometown. He not only met like, her parents.

8:14

She he met her brother,

8:17

some of her friends. A,

8:19

I'm a fan of her brother. Niamaya,

8:23

I really liked him. I know

8:25

charity is not the bad shirt, but who's

8:27

to say it couldn't run-in the Aly? Maybe

8:29

him for about her one day. I don't know.

8:32

But I also really liked her

8:34

friends. And I feel like one of them

8:36

asked a really great question when they

8:38

were talking to charity. And that

8:40

was, you know, everyone's like, are you falling

8:42

for this man? Like, what is your experience been like?

8:45

How fun is this? You know? Like, looking back

8:47

kind of the bright side, but they asked, like,

8:50

Are you prepared for an outcome

8:52

that, like, isn't what you hoped for? And I'm

8:55

paraphrasing that a little

8:56

bit, but I thought that was a really good question

8:58

to get her mind to

9:00

think, like, okay, I am one of four women

9:02

here stole. How am I gonna handle

9:05

this? I've already dealt with heartbreak in the past and

9:07

how will I handle this outcome that isn't

9:09

to my liking or that I am

9:11

expecting, which obviously

9:14

we saw her go home this week. So I think that

9:16

was a great question on her friend's part

9:18

to know that how will you handle

9:20

this, and it seems like she has a really great support

9:22

system. But, yeah,

9:25

I think,

9:25

like, for the most part, they all seemed pretty

9:27

easygoing besides Ariel's family.

9:30

You bring up such a good point with her friend though

9:32

just with hometowns.

9:35

It's hard when families

9:38

really and friends really do know you the

9:40

best. They've been in your life kind of know you how

9:43

you function. They've seen you through the heartbreak and like

9:45

all these different trials in tribulation, but it's

9:47

it was so nice to

9:50

see this

9:52

moment where her friend challenged Charity

9:54

to think about something without

9:58

making it this like intense riddle.

10:02

Mhmm. Right? And it's like, this

10:04

this is a situation where you

10:06

are one of four. But, like, sometimes

10:08

when you're in it, you kind of can

10:12

get lost in that. And especially when

10:14

you're trying to compartmentalize, you can almost

10:16

compartmentalize too much even as a

10:18

contestant. And go into a blindly

10:20

of, like, of course, I'm it, or of course,

10:22

like, you know, I'm the person. And you

10:25

at the end of the day, it's, like, it

10:27

was a great way and a respectful way

10:29

to not bring charity back down

10:31

to ground, but just like kind of really

10:34

help encapsulate the whole reality

10:37

of the situation -- Mhmm. -- that this is something

10:39

that's very likely that could happen. And if

10:41

it happens, one, like, that they're there

10:43

to

10:43

support. But are

10:46

you to, like, also

10:48

think about that? Not even in a negative way.

10:51

Right. No. And I don't think she was coming

10:53

at it. Like, kind of,

10:55

like, the week before where there was the mentalist,

10:57

and it, like, really broke these women down. And I don't

10:59

think the questions that they were asking,

11:01

were to do that? I think it was more so coming from

11:03

a place of love. Like, look, we've

11:06

seen you go through heartbreak and failed

11:08

relationships. And we saw you at these low places.

11:10

We're here for you no matter what, but

11:12

are you prepared for what that might be knowing

11:14

that you are one of four

11:15

women's. So

11:17

I really liked that conversation. Who

11:19

knows? Maybe we'll see more of those of

11:21

her friends of those women when

11:24

she becomes lead. would love that.

11:27

Okay. That's one more thing.

11:30

Well, wait, can you time up? Do you

11:32

have anything else you wanna talk about for

11:34

hometown? There is something that

11:36

I want to ask you because for

11:38

those listening, Becca sent me a

11:40

photo and a video. While

11:43

she was watching this episode, mode when

11:45

Zach was having a conversation with

11:48

one of the women. And it

11:50

made it really hard to focus on the conversation

11:53

because there was other things that were taking

11:55

place back

11:56

up. Can you please fill everybody

11:58

in with what you sent me? I

12:00

will. Oh my gosh. This is what

12:02

this is what really set me during this episode.

12:05

So in this moment,

12:07

it's during miss Katie's hometown.

12:10

Zach meets the Aly. It goes

12:12

well. We're all falling in love. Yay.

12:14

Great feelings. They go

12:16

outside the chat. I've

12:20

seen a pull the phone up right now. They go outside the

12:22

chat. And in this moment

12:24

where Young Katie

12:26

is starting to profess her love

12:29

and her feelings of falling

12:31

to Zach. All I

12:33

can focus on is one thing. And

12:36

that is the food between

12:38

Zach's front teeth. And

12:41

I don't know how no one else caught

12:43

this. I don't know how producers or

12:45

cameraman did not or women

12:48

did not see

12:49

this. But poor Zachary had

12:52

something. I don't know what was even

12:54

doing. Didn't say what he think it was. I

12:57

don't know. It's like green, black. I

12:59

maybe a piece of lettuce. Like, did we

13:01

eat sandwiches? I don't even know. Something.

13:03

If you were Katie, would you

13:06

pause would you continue professing your love,

13:08

or would you pause? No. I would have told him

13:11

right away because there was no missing that. Like,

13:13

even before she got into what she was trying

13:15

to tell him it was there.

13:17

It was very apparent. But

13:19

in this moment of love filled

13:23

proclamation. Somebody should've

13:25

just taken a little quick time out. But,

13:27

hey, love isn't always pretty. You know? Love isn't

13:29

always pretty. And that's how you know she's really

13:32

fallen in love. People. Okay.

13:34

One last thing before

13:36

we get into bringing our guests

13:38

on, and we're gonna pivot from hometowns

13:41

to now women tell all.

13:43

Mhmm.

13:43

And we will save most of our questions for the

13:46

women that we have on, but

13:48

we've we've hinted at this in the

13:50

past obviously Greer had a

13:52

hot seat. So let's talk

13:55

about that for a little bit. What were

13:57

your overall thoughts takeaways from that

13:59

conversation?

14:02

With somebody coming

14:04

into this hot seat

14:06

and speaking on it. I think the biggest

14:09

thing for me is I always wanna make sure

14:11

that people

14:13

understand that this is a promise to do better

14:15

and to continue to educate yourself

14:17

and educate

14:19

yourselves. And so this is not this,

14:22

you know, it's gonna be really intense right now. It's

14:24

gonna be really lively, it's

14:26

gonna be this big push to change and

14:28

this big gung ho. But

14:31

once the cameras are down, once

14:33

we're two months out? Are you still going to be finding

14:35

time to educate yourself? And so that's with the

14:37

biggest

14:38

thing. Wondery thing that stood out to me

14:40

and that I was I would say,

14:42

surprised by is

14:44

when Jesse started crafting

14:47

the intro for this conversation for Greer,

14:50

he acknowledged the fact that the franchise

14:52

has dropped the ball in the past and that they

14:54

were part of the issue, which I think

14:56

was key here. I I was

14:59

surprised, but I'm glad that Jesse highlighted

15:01

that that it is part of this franchise. And,

15:03

like, we have been part of the problem whether

15:06

it's through casting for silencing past

15:09

conversations that should have taken place for silencing

15:11

a whole group of people. So I think

15:13

that was a start. Again,

15:16

like, this has to and

15:18

it it can't just be, as you said, like, a one and

15:20

done thing. Like, we have to continue to, like,

15:23

learn and grow and, like, want that,

15:25

you know, not only for ourselves, but, like, four

15:27

things that we're part of. Like, you and I are part of this franchise

15:30

for a reason, but, like, obviously, we want it

15:32

we all wanna do better and be better

15:34

and and much more supportive.

15:36

So I think that was a part of it. And

15:40

one thing that Greer did that I would

15:42

say and, again, like, I wish we could have

15:44

seen the whole conversation because I'm sure this hot seat

15:46

took way longer than just what

15:48

we saw. But one of

15:50

the things that I think she did differently that we

15:52

haven't always seen in the past is, like, she didn't

15:54

just apologize. She like,

15:57

already went back and said, like, I had to

15:59

go back and look, like, where this stemmed from, where

16:01

this came from and, like, I took a deep dive into

16:03

different things into the blackface. And

16:05

so I'm glad that she, like, actually, could

16:08

start somewhere and say, like, hey, I've started

16:10

to do this. I'm not just doing it now and, like, moving

16:12

forward. And

16:15

like, playing into that conversation to him Aly

16:18

glad that the show included Genevieve's

16:21

and this doesn't have to do with Greer, but when

16:23

she was addressing, I think it

16:25

was, Anastasia, For

16:29

the microaggressions. For the microaggressions, I'm

16:31

glad that that piece was included as

16:33

well because then Dr. Banks could go back and

16:36

reference that and be like, this was a good

16:38

step in the right direction as well. So I

16:40

think it's, like, bits and pieces that were sprinkled

16:42

throughout --

16:43

Yeah. -- that I think

16:45

it's a step forward in doing better. Yeah.

16:47

I will acknowledge that it it definitely is

16:50

a step forward, and I can also understand

16:53

just different communities

16:55

of color with being also, you

16:57

know, tired of having to have this

17:00

type of content

17:02

exposed. And speaking

17:04

about the angry black woman was something

17:07

that came out when I was a contestant and something

17:09

that I had to dress and

17:11

that was brought to light quite a bit. And then

17:13

this women tell all we do

17:15

have conversations about microagression. And

17:18

I I think

17:20

it is a step that we are talking about these

17:23

things. I think it's a step that women

17:25

are stepping up and calling it out where

17:27

they see it. I would love

17:29

to see their franchise get to the point where

17:32

the drama is not racism. It's

17:34

not race based. And I think that's

17:36

what's really important is the fact that

17:39

the meat of this show should not be

17:41

addressing things because we should be having still

17:43

having these issues and kind of like

17:46

you said, with something that Grier did with

17:48

going back to where did this come from. A lot

17:50

of times, when these events happen, people

17:53

apologize. But they don't realize,

17:55

like, you have to uncover

17:57

their own implicit bias. You have to cover your

17:59

own racism. We're

18:01

we're not all at the same point. We all have different

18:03

experiences. We all grow up different. There's not one

18:05

person that's, like, the same. And so for her

18:08

to take that on her for for her

18:10

to look in the mirror, and figure out

18:12

where she grew, whether whether whatever

18:15

it was, it wasn't, you know, where

18:17

I grew up was is an excuse. Of

18:20

why I like this or where it comes from.

18:22

It's acknowledging and identifying it,

18:24

but not using it as an excuse, using

18:26

it as a way to then. This is why

18:29

Shay. I'm gonna have lot more catching up than, you know,

18:31

someone else standing next to me. But -- Mhmm.

18:33

-- we all have to start with ourselves and we're

18:35

all at very very different points in this

18:37

this piece, but in order to do a

18:40

better job collectively or even as, like,

18:42

community, a society, we all have

18:44

to start with ourselves. Mhmm. And

18:46

so it was. It was I think it was a

18:48

helpful conversation. I

18:50

hope that vaccination

18:53

is able to receive it. And

18:56

is able to take a step back because I know

18:58

that people, again, people watch this show

19:00

for drama and because it's juicy

19:03

and something to gossip about, and yes,

19:05

there's a love story. We want a love story to come

19:07

out of this, but it's typically

19:09

not this intense it's

19:11

not supposed to be these intense racist scandals.

19:13

Mhmm. And we don't want them to be like that.

19:16

Yeah. We we don't wanna be having this conversation.

19:18

Believe me. Like, I would prefer to not have to

19:20

have all these conversations closed conversations

19:23

behind or conversations behind closed

19:25

doors. Like, these are exhausting. This has been

19:27

exhausting to even get to the point to really

19:29

push for these conversations to be had.

19:32

But I I hope vaccination can

19:35

take a step back and realize why

19:37

we are

19:38

why it is important for this to be spoken

19:40

about when these mistakes keep

19:42

continuing to be made. Yes. Yeah.

19:45

Hopefully, by having these conversations consistently,

19:48

repeatedly, and again, taking

19:50

a deep dive into ourselves, hopefully, just lessons

19:53

that we'll see where

19:55

it goes from here on out. But but

19:58

yeah. I'm I'm just to start it's a start.

20:00

Yep. So Mhmm. And I'm glad that it was included

20:02

and not just cut out because there's a lot of other stuff that they

20:04

could have included in the Tell

20:05

Bet. I'm sure didn't make it. So I'm

20:08

glad that -- Yeah. -- it was very important to

20:10

allow people to have that. So And I just

20:12

I hope it's I just hope it's consistent know, because

20:14

we've kind of been here with Emmanuel Auto.

20:16

Right? Where we had this big thing. And I just

20:18

I want it to be consistent. I don't want consistently

20:21

have these conversations I would just love for this to not happen

20:23

so that group's people are not getting hurt like this.

20:25

Right. But, like, I hope

20:27

that we're responding appropriately. If

20:32

these things were to arise again -- Yeah. -- which I hope

20:34

we're able to take the steps so that

20:36

they don't to be about them. But yes.

20:39

Well, with that, I mean, there's

20:41

so much still that that happened

20:43

with the tell all that we'll get into.

20:45

And I think it's just time to bring

20:47

on the women, I'm cells. Again, we're gonna have

20:49

Brooklyn, Mercedes, and Aly who are

20:51

all part of that tallow and can give

20:54

us a much more in-depth look at

20:56

what actually went down. Let's

20:58

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Welcome to happy hour, everyone. I feel

23:10

like this is the most face that

23:13

the screen has ever seen with all

23:15

all five of us on We got the squad.

23:17

Yeah. She is. How's the Wondery

23:20

feeling? I'm feeling

23:22

good. Good

23:24

to be back. Can't wait to dive in.

23:27

Yes. Welcome back. And we got and

23:29

Mercedes who are newbies to happy

23:31

hour. I think, Ali, you did click click

23:33

it. Correct? I did. I

23:35

did. Okay. Okay. So you're not I

23:37

don't you're a professional, but

23:39

but first

23:39

time with us. And then Mercedes,

23:42

what about you? Have you done any podcast before?

23:44

Yeah. I did clickbait a couple weeks ago.

23:46

Oh,

23:47

you guys? Okay. Okay. Yeah. So we're

23:49

all well rounded here. Oh, this this is

23:51

not first time for anyone. Okay. I love it. It

23:53

has been a crazy intense week in

23:55

the voucher. We obviously watched hometowns. We

23:57

saw the women tell all. So

23:59

Brooklyn, we'll start with

24:00

you, and then we'll go to Aly in the Mercedes. How

24:03

is it now being

24:05

done with all of the craziness that

24:07

is the tell Yeah.

24:09

So being done with tell all, you know,

24:11

we aired Aly dirty Wondery. We got that out

24:13

of the way. You know, we were able to find

24:15

the closure we needed, whether that was with Zach or

24:18

with the girls and kind of move past that.

24:20

It was a great group of girls. And, you

24:22

know, despite having drama, like,

24:24

I feel like we've all been able to say

24:27

our piece and move asked it. So, like, there's no

24:29

hard feelings with any other girls. And I

24:31

feel like the girls as far as that goes have

24:33

been able

24:33

to, you know, find their closure and

24:36

move on to whatever's next for them.

24:38

Mhmm.

24:39

Maybe a little paradise action. Oh, no.

24:43

We'll see we'll see Aly. What about you? Yeah.

24:46

So as you saw in the tell Aly, all of us

24:48

are super close. The longer we stay, we

24:50

just bonded more and

24:52

it just, you know, makes for some really

24:54

tight relationships in bonds. So we

24:57

don't play about each

24:58

other. Oh, hell no.

25:01

Okay. So what was it like for you now? I

25:03

mean, obviously, living in in the Tell

25:05

All the long day that that is. And then

25:07

being able to watch it back and kind of be done with

25:09

that chapter of your life.

25:11

Yeah. For sure. It was definitely

25:13

intense like leading up to it because you don't know what's gonna

25:15

happen. You don't know what people are gonna

25:18

say. But I think at the end of the day, it went over

25:20

really well. And like Brooklyn said, we got our

25:22

dirty laundry out. And

25:24

now that it's over, like, we can make

25:27

our relationships public

25:28

and, like, actually be friends, like, outside

25:30

of this, like, our little tab. So I'm really excited

25:32

about that, and I'm really excited to see what everyone's

25:34

future is holding. Yeah. Did

25:37

any of you go into the

25:39

women tell all with any specific things that

25:41

you wanna address? Air out

25:43

just because when you leave,

25:47

you're and you're watching it back, you're watching it back real

25:49

time with all of us, with the entire

25:51

bassoon nation. And a lot of

25:53

times you're seeing different things that other people may

25:55

have said, other feelings might

25:57

have come up. You haven't been able to

25:59

sort those things out. So what were, like, some

26:01

of the specific things that you really

26:04

were focused on

26:06

or kind of were, like, floating around in your head as

26:08

you were approaching women to all. Brooklyn, do you wanna

26:10

start? Yeah. So as

26:12

far as, like, you know, going

26:15

into tell all what I needed to address

26:18

or what I wanted closure on, I feel like

26:20

I pretty much left it all on the field

26:22

as far as, you know, the show went.

26:25

I did kind of wanna see I was interested to

26:27

see, you know, Zach's perspective of

26:30

our breakup and stuff and, you know, what he

26:32

thought because, yeah, we talked,

26:34

but I didn't really see what he had

26:36

to say about me and the ITMs and all that.

26:39

But as far as, like, any drama or any, like,

26:41

thing like that, like, I I said what said and

26:43

I there it was. So I

26:45

didn't really have anything I wanted to address

26:47

specifically as far as the

26:49

drama, but I was interested to see what Zach had

26:51

say in his ITMs. Right.

26:55

Aly, what about for you? Anything that you really wanted

26:57

to cover with any of the women in our OSAT?

27:02

Not really. I feel like the show actually

27:04

portrays pretty accurately who I am as

27:06

an individual. I'm just always there.

27:08

Just be bopping, you know. And so

27:13

Aly didn't get into drama. I

27:15

don't really get into drama. I don't really get into drama in real life.

27:18

It was nice though to see girls

27:20

get that closure and be able to,

27:22

like, voice their stand put

27:25

on certain situations And

27:28

so it was really nice. So it's especially nice for me

27:30

to watch Kylie and Stars. I had that opportunity

27:32

to talk. Both of them, I was really, really close

27:34

with. So for me, it was definitely a sticky

27:36

situation where I always took a step back,

27:39

didn't wanna over engage in either girls

27:41

just because they are both my of my friends.

27:44

So it was nice to see them both be able to

27:46

say their piece, say what they needed just saying so

27:48

that we

27:48

can, like, all move on as a collective.

27:50

Mhmm. Mercedes what about for

27:52

you? Yeah. So,

27:55

like Aly, I wasn't really involved in much

27:57

drama, but Kylie is,

27:59

like, my ride or dad's, my girl's.

28:01

So going into the towel, I thought

28:03

I'm like, hey, like, I got your back. Like,

28:05

if you ever need me to, like, step up, like, I

28:07

will because in my girl, I got you.

28:10

But she handled herself so well,

28:12

and I'm so proud of how she

28:14

just her aunt's sauce like Ali

28:16

said, I mean, I'm friends with both of them. So it

28:18

was really nice seeing them be able to talk

28:21

to each other

28:22

and figure everything out.

28:23

Mhmm. But that was really all I planned on

28:25

speaking on, and I didn't have to because Kylie did

28:27

such a good job myself.

28:29

So there's obviously I'm

28:31

sure a lot that went down that

28:33

day that we just didn't have the opportunity

28:36

to see given timing. So

28:39

since you three were actually there,

28:41

Did it seem more calm or

28:43

more crazy than you expected? So this is a

28:45

two part question. Did it seem more calm or more

28:47

crazy? Than what you expected

28:50

the day to be? And then was there

28:52

anyone in that group of women

28:54

who, like, really surprised

28:57

you or stood out to you? Because I

28:59

will say there were a couple women that went home night one

29:01

that were very vocal throughout parts. And I was like,

29:04

wait, who are you? Like, uh-huh. How

29:06

are you speaking on this if you weren't

29:07

there? So I want your take since you were all

29:09

there. Mercedes, let's start with you on that one.

29:12

Yeah. Some some people definitely showed

29:14

up and showed out. And

29:17

that took me for a loop a little bit. There was

29:20

a night night one that I was kinda like,

29:22

oh, you know, like, we're I mean, everyone

29:24

deserves to have an opinion obviously, and

29:26

I respect that so much. But it

29:28

was kinda, like, whoa. But,

29:31

yeah, I think she just wanted to put her opinion

29:33

out there because she didn't have much time to

29:35

do that, so she got to do it till

29:37

on. And she went for it. So

29:41

did did the day seem overall

29:43

seem more calm or was it more

29:45

wild than you expected? Honestly

29:49

both, a little bit. Like, I

29:52

feel like the drama that we

29:54

saw on the show was very like,

29:56

everyone's very mature about it, and they

29:58

actually, like, topped it through, like, adults.

30:01

And then, you know, there was some random

30:04

things that nobody knew about that it was like

30:06

from left field. You were just like, what?

30:08

Like, when how did you know that? Or

30:10

what? Like, that was just confusing. So that was

30:12

a little

30:13

Aly. But I would say for the most part, it was pretty

30:15

comfortable collected. Mhmm. Just next.

30:17

Because I was gonna say it was definitely more

30:20

I see than I expected

30:23

watching it. Yeah. Just because so

30:25

much of the drama well, there was I'm sure

30:27

there was always drama in the house that was not

30:29

you know, being spoken about or anything

30:32

like that. But, like, very

30:34

much so, like, let's get into specific moments.

30:36

Okay? Because we all we're gonna bring this person

30:40

Christina. I'm gonna throw Christina. How

30:42

how was it like seeing Christina again?

30:45

Just with what happened while

30:48

she was on the show and in the house and

30:50

and traveling with you guys. What

30:52

has happened? I know that we all can't

30:54

necessarily communicate and

30:57

talk once you get let go up until

30:59

women tell Aly, but everybody's on social

31:01

media and everybody can kind of like see

31:03

what everybody else is doing. And

31:05

there's just been a lot that has been going

31:08

on. And then there was a lot that happened at women

31:10

tell, oh, So what were your guys' thoughts

31:12

on seeing her again? Seeing

31:14

Christina again at Tello, you know, I

31:16

knew that the drama was gonna come up.

31:19

I actually like, I

31:21

haven't really seen anything, like, on social media,

31:24

like, directly from her. But,

31:26

I mean, she does have quite the following,

31:28

like, lot of people really support her, which

31:31

is great. Everyone needs and deserves support

31:33

in this world. But

31:36

seeing her again at Tell Aly, I was like, oh, Lord, here we

31:38

go. Like, I wonder if she,

31:41

like, kinda recognized what happened, especially

31:43

being able to watch it back and, like, maybe

31:45

kinda where she went wrong or how

31:48

her actions were affecting others. So

31:50

was interested to see how that was gonna go.

31:52

I was a little nervous, honestly, because

31:56

she does do a pretty good job of she

32:00

knows exactly what to say and how to say it, but

32:02

I don't feel like her actions actually

32:05

portray that. So I was

32:07

interested to see, did we have a learning

32:09

moment from this opportunity watching

32:11

it

32:11

back? Or are we still blowing

32:13

smoke? And I feel like we're still

32:15

blowing smoke. But I wanted to ask you that

32:18

because for the most part, I think

32:20

that's what people work expect seemed to like, probably

32:22

one of the most dramatic moments was everyone's

32:24

interaction and confrontation with Christina. It

32:27

seemed fairly tame from a viewer

32:29

standpoint. But she did,

32:31

as you said, Brooklyn, it seemed like she was saying

32:34

the right things. Like, she took accountability she

32:36

knows that she screwed up where she went wrong

32:39

and left it at that. But did it feel

32:41

genuine? Because, again, you're there all three

32:43

of you, you're there with her in person.

32:46

So wanted to know, as you said, does it

32:48

feel like smoke's being blown up to ass, or did

32:50

it feel actually

32:52

real? And I want all three of you to answer

32:54

that. Yeah. I

32:57

mean, in the moment, it

32:59

seemed genuine. However, you

33:01

know, I don't she'll have Aly an opportunity

33:03

to be back in that situation. And

33:07

I haven't spoke to her since her sooner or

33:09

anything. So I don't know because I'm not

33:11

really monitoring her actions, I guess, you

33:13

could say. But the way she

33:15

spoke did seem genuine,

33:18

something tells me this girl's gonna be on the sand.

33:21

Okay.

33:21

There's no way that she's not gonna be on the same. That's

33:23

what I was gonna be on the same.

33:25

Aly, how did you feel about her

33:27

response? And I I don't even

33:30

know if I'd call it like an apology per se,

33:32

but just her response to everyone when

33:34

they brought up the issues. I

33:37

do think her response was genuine. However,

33:40

I think she's oblivious to

33:42

how her actions affected others. And

33:44

so I think she genuinely meant everything

33:47

she said, but it still negated the

33:49

fact that you did say

33:51

things that were harmful and you never took

33:53

time to take yourself out of your head space

33:56

and understand how those things

33:58

affected other people. And

34:01

while I also do not follow for

34:03

the most part, any of them, I think in the beginning,

34:05

we all, like, look up bachelor's stuff. And then

34:07

after a week, you're, like, oh, this is way too much.

34:10

Stuff didn't pop up and go viral.

34:13

Where she was talking about, you know,

34:15

Brianna. And for me, that

34:17

was again doubling down on what

34:19

I think her intentions were to be goofy, silly,

34:21

funny. You're

34:24

still negating the fact that that is harmful

34:26

to Brianna. And so from

34:28

that standpoint, lover, respect

34:30

her, glad that we can move

34:32

forward, but I still think there are

34:35

there are actions that need to be taken so that she fully

34:37

understands, like, the power that she hold and

34:40

the repercussions that she calls them the following

34:42

that she has. I mean, she is hilarious,

34:44

and she is funny. So people jump on that

34:46

bandwagon, and Brannett

34:48

does get mean messages and does get things

34:50

that because everyone doesn't understand the whole

34:52

story.

34:52

And so -- Right. -- I feel like that's the part that hurt

34:55

me at Telcall is listening to all this back.

34:57

And being a friend of Breonna's and knowing that she

34:59

wasn't here to defend herself and she isn't here

35:01

to say the things that she needs to

35:03

say. And so all people get to

35:05

hear is Wondery

35:07

Christina's apology.

35:08

Yeah. Right. And and I that it's

35:11

just half of the story. So I I hope that

35:13

people take away from that, take a step back, and still

35:15

see but there's another human being that was a part

35:17

of this who

35:19

is getting the rougher or

35:21

the shorter end of the stick and all this. I

35:23

don't know. What what were your thoughts on Brianna

35:26

not being there? You

35:28

know, III don't

35:30

know why she was or was not me.

35:32

I don't know why she wasn't there. I have no idea what went

35:34

into that decision or or if she was invited or

35:36

if she wasn't invited. So don't know that. But

35:40

I was happy and she made the decision to

35:42

not come. I think it takes a lot with

35:44

all of this to put your mental health first.

35:47

And to put yourself first, it is much easier to

35:49

say, well, I'm just gonna go there. I'm gonna defend myself

35:51

and I'm gonna do this. But if

35:53

that's gonna mess you up more, then,

35:55

like, do take a step back. Let people say what

35:57

they wanna say, do you. And so

36:00

while I don't know the reasoning for why she wasn't

36:03

there, I hope that she

36:05

was able to just take breather because

36:08

this has been a fun roller coaster, but none

36:10

of us expected half of the things we

36:13

got, and I think she had a lot of

36:15

attention on her that she

36:17

was not prepared for. Mhmm. So

36:20

I I just hope that it was a

36:22

breeder that she got to

36:23

have, and I respect it if she needed that moment.

36:25

Yeah.

36:27

Yeah. It's you I mean, you have to handle it

36:29

with cared. And, like, that's the hard thing

36:31

is that repercussions and

36:34

consequences oftentimes, like,

36:36

when you talk about what a genuine apology

36:38

looks like, And sometimes

36:40

it's hard when you have to

36:43

sit and wait for

36:45

an audience to see it call

36:47

it out for you to really feel that pressure.

36:50

Now the kitchen is really hot and now you

36:52

wanna apologize. It's like, it's

36:55

it it is this interesting environment

36:57

where you can say whatever you want to

36:59

say and you can have the girl, you know, girls

37:01

or other contestants that are around you,

37:03

say something that might create issues and there's

37:06

cameras there, but, like, the actual

37:08

public repercussions don't come out until

37:11

months later. And that's

37:13

often when the apologies come out,

37:15

when I would love for

37:17

them to naturally come out before

37:19

them. And it just sometimes

37:22

takes it away. But then also, you can see people

37:24

who sometimes that takes that

37:26

is what it takes for them to understand that they really

37:28

did something wrong. Well, Okay. Let's

37:30

ask this then. Was there

37:32

ever a moment that and maybe

37:35

the three of you don't know because maybe it didn't happen

37:37

to you directly, but as far

37:39

as you're aware, did

37:41

Christina ever reach out and apologize

37:43

for her actions? Maybe directed to Brianna or

37:46

to any of you you know,

37:48

for the issues that she caused when she

37:50

was, like, really making everything about herself. Was there

37:52

any apology prior to the tell Aly?

37:56

that I'm aware of. I mean, she

37:58

doesn't have to apologize to me obviously, but, like,

38:00

not that I'm aware of.

38:03

I think she said that it's Aly she

38:06

because I had asked her, I said, know,

38:09

did you reach out to Brianna and talk about

38:10

this, and she said, no. And I was like, what you're making?

38:13

TikTok's about her. Oh, the TikTok

38:15

with the face on it at the end? Actually, that rubs

38:17

me. That rubs me. Brooklyn's

38:19

gonna get fired up

38:20

again. don't know.

38:22

Protect your peace, Brooklyn. Protect your

38:24

peace.

38:26

Yeah. I screen or should record it. That should

38:28

sound like that. I don't see that.

38:30

The only way you can protect your pieces to stay

38:32

off social in general.

38:34

True. True. Yeah. There's

38:34

just there's no way to do it.

38:37

Okay. Let's switch gears a little bit.

38:39

From we had this whole thing with Christina

38:42

going on. Sounds like it's

38:44

still going on. I something tells

38:46

me that it's gonna be coming back up floating

38:48

around somewhere warm. We'll

38:50

see you. But what is this what

38:52

is this whole bomb show that was

38:55

dropped about Anastasia having

38:57

a boyfriend? Well, she's

38:59

on the show. Could you

39:01

all speak more to

39:03

that? Like, did she was this this is

39:05

not the first time you guys were hearing about this. Was

39:07

it? It's the

39:08

first

39:08

time I hear about it. Never heard that.

39:11

So, like, yeah, help help me

39:14

more. Like, this is news.

39:17

Yeah. I I truly have no idea. What

39:20

it was. I don't know if you girls have Aly more idea

39:22

than I

39:22

do. I have no clue.

39:25

I was news to me.

39:26

Yeah. Like, when she when she said

39:28

that, I was just like,

39:30

What? Oh, yeah. All of your all of your

39:32

reactions were in that moment.

39:34

Like, if you could've just screenshotted everyone's

39:37

name, literally. It seems like it and

39:39

this is just me. I don't know shit. And again, like,

39:41

I don't know a lot. I'm such a

39:43

mom. Like, I don't follow, like, a lot of responses

39:45

from media. But it seems like

39:47

that was kinda just pulled out of thin air,

39:49

out of left field from some of the

39:52

other women. That I think we're just maybe like

39:54

trying to have moment of, like, well, you had a boyfriend,

39:56

but it wasn't actually factual backed

39:58

up. No evidence to this.

40:01

Yeah. And then it was that, and

40:03

I was purely annoyed from

40:06

the just screaming words that made

40:08

no sense. I have receipts. I pulled them out.

40:10

Where they like, just screaming that you

40:12

have them, but not actually backing them up. And

40:14

then back to you do realize this affects

40:16

people's actual lives. Right? Think this

40:18

is not the time to just throw out complete

40:20

lies. And so

40:23

I don't know, but I

40:25

know Staz's character and

40:28

I know who she is as a person and she's not the

40:30

one to hide it. She'd be the Wondery be

40:32

like, yeah, I got two boyfriends. What's good? And

40:34

so it's just annoyed. He's just like,

40:37

While I can't confirm or deny any of this,

40:39

if you were actually here and met her

40:41

as a person, then you would know

40:43

like who she is and how she shows up,

40:45

and that's just not she shows up.

40:48

I can say many things about her, but

40:50

lying about the people she talks to

40:52

just isn't something. And so If

40:55

it ever did come out to be true, I would

40:57

still be shocked, like, jaw on the floor

40:59

because that's just not who she is. And

41:02

then that couple with the fact that we live

41:04

in this roster culture. I'm just like,

41:06

so you're telling me you never talked leading

41:08

up to this show to one boy. Kiss

41:10

one boy. Communicate it with one

41:12

boy. Like, hand me your phone. Like,

41:14

it's just not true. Like, it would

41:17

be a lie we all said for the months leading

41:19

up, we just deleted every boy in our phone

41:21

and never desired for someone to

41:23

like us. That's silly. And

41:25

so boyfriend, no

41:27

boyfriend flirting, no flirting, I'm just like,

41:29

let's be adults here. You can talk to who you wanna

41:32

talk to. She was exclusively with

41:34

Zach from our understanding when she was on the

41:36

show. So, like, what does it

41:38

matter? Like, I'm right. I don't

41:40

know. So nobody saw the

41:42

receipts. Is that

41:43

No. Want the receipt. At least

41:45

the

41:45

receipt. What does that even mean?

41:48

What does that even

41:48

mean? Is it,

41:49

like, text? Is it, like, pictures? Is

41:51

it text messages? Is it, like, a text Rad.

41:54

What is it? It sound like it was text between

41:56

this guy that was, like, watching her dog,

41:58

but but she was, like, no, my mom has watched my

42:00

dog. That's why that's where it just gets muddled

42:02

and, like, very much. She said

42:04

she said. Since we're just speaking

42:06

of Anasasya really quick, did

42:09

it feel like there was any

42:11

sort of resolution between her and Kylie?

42:13

Did they get to a place of understanding? Or did

42:15

they just kind of like leave it

42:17

as as is? Like, you know, we're not gonna

42:19

be

42:19

friends, but it's in the past. Now, what was that

42:21

like for them? I

42:24

feel like personally there was an understanding. I

42:26

think that Kylie spoke very beautifully and

42:29

said, like, exactly how she was feeling. And I

42:31

think Stoss really took that and that.

42:34

Stoss is a very, like, intelligent

42:36

woman, and she knows that that

42:39

was probably your emotions are crazy

42:41

there. Right? Like you do shit and then you're like,

42:43

if you're looking back, like, whatever, probably

42:45

wasn't that serious. But I feel

42:47

like stock really took it well and

42:49

I think she most likely grew from it because

42:51

that's just type of person she is.

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44:19

We're gonna pivot to a

44:21

little bit different of

44:24

dramatic moments that went down. And Brooklyn,

44:26

this one's for you. I

44:28

know you kinda touched on this a little bit at the beginning.

44:30

Like, you win and you weren't Aly, like, nervous or, like, have anything

44:33

specifically to say to anyone. What

44:35

was it like seeing cat again

44:37

for the first time since you

44:39

both went home in what what was

44:42

it, the Sonya? Budapest. Budapest.

44:44

Yeah. When you both went home in Budapest. Yeah.

44:47

You know, SyncAT, I knew that, like, we were gonna

44:49

have to kind of rehash that. I'm

44:52

very much a person where, like, I've already said

44:54

it. So, like, I don't really have much else to

44:56

say it about it. But, of course, I knew

44:58

we were gonna have to kind of rehash that. You

45:01

know, I know my delivery was

45:03

kinda harsh. I'm fully aware of that.

45:05

That's just kinda how I am. But

45:09

seeing her, I knew it

45:11

was gonna come up and I feel like

45:13

we both kind of stood strong on where we

45:15

stand on that. So it was a

45:17

little nerve racking because I was it's probably gonna

45:19

get heated again. Like, it's not gonna be

45:22

a peaceful chat. So

45:25

I was nervous just because, you know,

45:28

I don't wanna be mean or hurt feelings, but

45:30

I'm I'm gonna stand strong with what

45:32

I said and how I feel. Mhmm.

45:34

Do you feel like you ended on the same page?

45:38

For the most part. Yeah. I do. Yeah.

45:40

I feel like we ended on the same page we're

45:44

totally fine now. You know, we were

45:46

able to talk about it and hash it out.

45:48

It might have been a harsher hash

45:50

out than most, but at

45:53

the day, we were able to see eye to

45:55

eye, and I have nothing but good things

45:57

to say about her. Like, I respect her as a person,

45:59

and think she's great. So we're

46:01

definitely on the same page now and totally

46:04

cool.

46:04

Mhmm. Okay. This is gonna be

46:06

kind of a random question, and I'm only

46:09

asking this because One

46:12

of my friends at the gym actually asked

46:14

me this question. I was like, that is

46:17

a good thing that maybe I could just ask

46:19

all of you since we have more of you here.

46:21

Okay. So in this scenario with

46:24

cat pulling Zach right before

46:27

charity's date, like,

46:29

we saw all that go down. You know,

46:31

it rubbed everyone the wrong way. Would

46:34

you have preferred it to happen in that moment

46:36

or say for, like, right as

46:38

the Row ceremony is going on. When you're

46:40

all standing there, waiting, it's a long

46:42

night, and she still chose to interrupt

46:45

everyone's Row ceremony and pulls Zac aside.

46:47

In that moment. Because that happened on

46:49

on Ari season where I was contestant and people

46:52

obviously were freaking out. So, like, give

46:54

and take, what scenario would you

46:56

have preferred? This is funny.

46:59

Personally, I say the road ceremony. You

47:01

know, like, we

47:01

all got our chance. We all had our time. Maybe

47:04

it was something huge weighing on her

47:08

But

47:08

before Charity's date, that was Charity's time, like,

47:10

the second he walked through the door, her date started.

47:13

So would have probably still been kind of

47:15

annoyed, had she done that at the Rose ceremony, but

47:17

I would have assumed it was something

47:19

big she had to discuss with

47:21

him. So I would have been a lot more understanding

47:23

with that. Mhmm. I still stand by

47:26

not before the one on one. Yeah. What

47:28

about you, Mercedes and Aly?

47:30

I would say definitely would have much

47:32

prefer it before the Rose ceremony. Honestly,

47:34

both would have annoyed me for two different reasons.

47:37

Like, gross air monies are long, your feet are hurting,

47:39

and just don't wanna stand there now. Right.

47:42

But I feel like it comes down to before

47:45

Charity's date was taking Charity's moment.

47:47

Before the Rose ceremony. It's it's

47:49

it's really an all or nothing at that point. And

47:51

so if those two seconds are

47:53

gonna be a make of break for you, I say, go

47:55

get your man and take those two seconds. But

47:58

doing it before charity's date

48:00

was I mean, unanimously, we

48:02

were like, that's feeling charity's moment.

48:05

And it just it was just not

48:06

okay. So before the Rose Air Money, it would've

48:09

been much more appreciated.

48:10

Okay. Mercedes, what about you? I

48:14

would say before the Rose ceremony because,

48:17

like Brooklyn said, it's everyone's

48:20

time kind of, whereas charity

48:23

especially in that situation because she was supposed

48:25

to get her one on one in London. So it was,

48:27

like, all leading up to it, and she was so excited

48:29

then it's kinda just, like,

48:31

like,

48:31

I have one moment to take it from you again. You

48:33

know? So I definitely if

48:35

that would have been me, I would have much

48:38

rather done that dressing. Yeah. For sure.

48:40

I agree. It's it's different

48:43

when it's one person more not that she was

48:45

singled out, but singled out in a sense versus

48:47

-- Right. -- kind of all of you up against the

48:49

time altogether in solidarity. Definitely.

48:52

I was just really interested in this. I've been I've been

48:54

thinking about that for a couple weeks since

48:56

it happened, and so I'm glad that if

48:58

I didn't just ask ask the majority of people

49:01

here. There's so many. Just

49:03

read, like, this season. I think, like, the whole,

49:05

like, read the room comment

49:07

could apply in so many situations. Mhmm.

49:10

Like, just

49:12

if we just were to read the room, so many

49:14

things wouldn't have happened. But just everyday

49:17

in life. Alright. Let's

49:19

get into of the tell

49:21

all what did you all think of Greer's

49:23

hot seat? Michelle and I touched about

49:26

on this a little bit before you you were

49:28

all brought on. It

49:31

was we I think we're

49:33

glad to see that conversation. We think

49:35

that it's a step in the right direction.

49:37

How did you all feel about her

49:40

apology? And was there anything

49:43

that she said or doctor Banks or

49:45

what doctor Bing said that stuck out to you

49:47

or lessons that you think people could take from

49:49

it. Mercedes, let's start with you this time.

49:52

Yeah. Like you said, I'm very happy

49:54

that, you know, it is being discussed because

49:57

that is a step in the right direction because

49:59

it's it's twenty twenty three. Like, we

50:01

do need to have those discussions. But

50:04

I feel like her apology was It

50:08

was good. I mean, there's for

50:11

for what it was, I think that

50:13

she handles herself very

50:15

well. I appreciated them having

50:17

What was the doctor's name again? Doctor

50:19

Doctor Bing. Doctor Bing. Yeah. I thought

50:21

having her there was very cool too because she

50:23

was, like, from a professional standpoint and could

50:26

actually explain everything that

50:28

was going on. But, yeah,

50:30

I thought I thought it was it was good, and I'm

50:32

glad that it was just talked about I

50:35

like, what about for you?

50:37

I think for me, I definitely agree with that

50:39

what Mercedes said. It's

50:42

It's a weird social experience this

50:44

is because the Greer we met was

50:46

not the Greer I thought I was gonna

50:48

have to confront post show when you get

50:51

to read through all of these things. She, in

50:53

my opinion, throughout the show, never showed signs

50:55

of that she would have ever had commented on

50:57

big like that. So it was very

50:59

strange to then have to have

51:01

those conversations. Like, you did what?

51:03

Independent? What? But I

51:08

I think that it was good. I think it's a step in the

51:10

right direction. I genuinely think

51:12

that she understands what

51:16

she did. I also think that she understands

51:18

that she was in a situation or around people

51:20

who may not have been influencing the right ideals

51:23

And and so now she can make a decision for

51:25

herself and understand all resources that are

51:27

available to her and what her

51:29

opinion are on things. And so

51:32

I have nothing but good things to say about where

51:34

the person and I just hope that she continues to

51:36

take the lessons that she had from doctor Bates

51:38

and really like put it into motion and how

51:41

she can live her life because

51:43

that's not who she was on the show. So it was very

51:45

weird to come back

51:47

and read that because I'm like, you're, that's not who you are.

51:49

Why would you have even defended our sense and things

51:51

like that? I'm glad we now have

51:53

the opportunity to hold you accountable,

51:56

but then also moving forward. You can hold others

51:58

accountable too. She got backlash

52:00

from both sides. People say, why are you apologizing?

52:02

Like, you shouldn't be apologizing and others

52:05

saying no, she definitely needs to.

52:07

It's wrong. And so I'm glad

52:09

she can go back to people who questioned why

52:11

she apologized and also double

52:13

down to them and be an advocate to say,

52:16

no, this is why what I did was wrong,

52:18

and I stand behind that and we could all move forward

52:20

together.

52:21

Mhmm. That's very

52:23

good point. And, Brooke, then what about for

52:25

you? Yeah. I'm basically

52:27

what they said too. I'm glad to see that she

52:29

was able to be accountable for her

52:32

previous actions. And

52:34

I really liked that she was able

52:36

to sit down and take the

52:38

time to see why she

52:40

was wrong and how she can, you know,

52:43

not make mistakes like that and kinda

52:46

influence others to see the

52:48

issue that it truly is. I really liked

52:51

them having doctor Banks there to kind of shed some light

52:53

on the situation like Mercedes said from a professional

52:55

aspect. But,

52:58

you know, also like Ali said it,

53:00

that's not the where we met. So

53:03

it was, you know, hearing about all of that

53:05

and being, like, what? Then

53:08

seeing her take accountability and apologize.

53:10

I definitely agree as a step in the right direction.

53:12

And although

53:15

it's unfortunate that it ever happened.

53:18

It's kind of on such a

53:20

big platform, you're able to shed

53:22

light on the situation and move

53:24

in the right direction and show others.

53:26

So, you know, it's unfortunate as

53:28

it is that happened. I'm glad that it happened on a big

53:31

platform so that you can shed light on the situation.

53:34

Yeah. And we've talked about this too, the

53:36

fact that even Jesse, at

53:38

the beginning of that whole conversation, to kind

53:40

of narrow it kind

53:43

of said we as a whole as a franchise

53:46

have been in the wrong and have, you know,

53:49

not necessarily with this issue or had the conversations

53:51

that we've needed to have in the past, and that's on us,

53:54

which we appreciate. You

53:56

know, it's not just like a one and done person

53:58

situation, unfortunately. Aly,

54:02

again, like, step in the direction for the franchise

54:04

too as a

54:05

whole. And

54:07

Michelle, do you have any final thoughts on that part or

54:09

do you wanna get into? Yeah. It

54:11

was just how are you what were you guys'

54:13

thoughts of just having to

54:15

I mean, I've been in a consistent

54:17

position now, but in a lead position and

54:20

having to take time

54:22

out of these moments whether

54:25

it's women to all, whether it's after

54:27

the final rows to, like, address these types

54:29

of things. And, you know, we had the situation

54:31

with Greer, but we also had these conversations about

54:34

microaggressions and being an angry

54:36

black woman, and those are all different things that I also

54:38

had to have conversations about too

54:40

when I was filming. And how how

54:42

did you feel not only

54:45

addressing those or that you're able to address

54:47

those, but also how did you feel that people

54:49

were were responding to

54:51

those conversations. Whoever

54:54

wants to jump in first. I

54:56

think that's It showed

54:58

we've come far ish, but we

55:00

still have so much further to go

55:02

in these conversations. I

55:05

think the conversations around even microaggressions

55:08

having to and this goes for everyone,

55:10

not just the the two people who are involved in

55:12

that speech to go situation. Having to then

55:14

define what a microaggression is and

55:16

then further explain how it

55:19

it doesn't make you a bad person. I mean,

55:21

it just means you made a microaggression. And

55:23

you need to understand why it

55:26

affects certain people or certain.

55:28

And so it's just it's for

55:30

me, personally, it's exhausting because I don't

55:32

wanna have to define it. And I don't wanna have

55:34

to explain it. And I don't wanna have to I

55:37

don't know. Just have those conversations and stuff,

55:39

but at the same time, it's so fruitful. Because

55:42

we are friends and we have Wondery. And I know

55:44

that you're gonna likely receive that information from

55:47

me better than you're gonna receive it from

55:49

someone else. So I think it puts

55:51

like, at least for myself, myself in weird situation

55:54

where I have to step out of my comfort zone.

55:56

And while I don't wanna have these conversations

55:58

or even given any airtime, I have to

56:00

also acknowledge my part in this

56:02

to say, if I don't, then you continue to perpetuate

56:05

something. And as a friend, I don't

56:07

want you to do that. And so exhausting,

56:11

but I feel like it I mean, I'm glad it's shown

56:13

and I'm glad we can show people that we're

56:15

gonna continue to move in that

56:17

direction. You know, as a collective.

56:19

Mhmm.

56:21

Very nicely put.

56:22

Yeah. In fact, that's kind of what we that's what Beck

56:24

and I spoke about as well of just it

56:27

yeah. You want it you want to I'm

56:30

not I'm not gonna say the word celebrate because

56:32

I'm not gonna say, yay. You know, we're

56:34

taking us in the right direction or anything that. But

56:36

like you said, it does get exhausting. And

56:40

even as, like, a woman of color

56:42

black woman, you also

56:44

have the right to choose when to tap in and tap out

56:46

of those conversations. And that's what I firmly believe.

56:48

And I applaud you for wanting to tap

56:50

in and and definitely explain those things

56:52

and speaking up. And, you know,

56:55

there's also times where you have to protect

56:57

your peace because it's frustrating to constantly

56:59

have to explain what implicit bias

57:01

is, what microaggressions are.

57:04

You know, and and continue to go down

57:06

that road. But yeah. I

57:09

agree. It is exhausting because

57:12

it's kinda just, like, why is

57:14

this a conversation? Like, I wish it was

57:16

just, like, everyone just got it because

57:18

it seems like so easy. Like, just don't

57:20

do it. Mhmm. But I am, like, very

57:22

grateful that, you know, we do have

57:24

this platform. And some people watching tell

57:27

Aly, maybe they didn't even know what microaggressioning was.

57:29

So now they're, like, aware of it and

57:32

can, like, learn from it and grow from it.

57:35

But it is it's frustrating. like

57:38

you said, sometimes you have to protect your peace and

57:40

just be like, okay. Can't deal with that right now. Mhmm.

57:43

But but I'm glad that it's being talked about

57:45

and hopefully people are

57:48

learning and we'll get it right

57:50

hopefully soon -- Yeah. -- rather than later because

57:54

Well and I think doctor Banks she

57:56

had a a good part

57:59

in there towards the end when she was wrapping up where

58:01

she's like, you can't I think it was you

58:03

can't nice your way out of racism.

58:05

Like and I think collectively, like

58:08

me being a white woman growing up in a predominantly

58:10

white community, there's

58:12

a lot that we weren't

58:15

even I would say, like,

58:17

aware of growing up, which isn't that's not

58:19

an excuse. Like, I'm that's why, like, now

58:22

I'm trying to push myself forward and learn

58:24

and educate, and we do this resource every

58:26

week on the podcast. But

58:28

I think that that's been an excuse

58:31

in the past, especially within this franchise, which

58:33

is predominantly Aly viewership

58:35

is white. And, you know, it's like,

58:37

oh, well, the intent wasn't

58:39

to hurt someone or I was being nice

58:42

or whatever it might be. And I think that was a

58:44

good one liner that I took from that too. It's like,

58:46

we can all keep this in mind, especially as

58:49

a white woman watching this show. You can't

58:51

nice your way out of this

58:53

huge, huge issue that continually takes

58:56

place. And can still be perpetuated

58:58

within this industry, within our country.

59:00

So, yeah, I'm I'm

59:02

glad that Dr. Banks was was able to

59:04

be there. With

59:07

all that. Let's get into the

59:10

part where Zach comes out, totally

59:13

flip inside here. Zach

59:16

comes out on stage. What were all of

59:18

your first thoughts seeing him

59:20

again? Brooklyn, let's start with you.

59:23

I was like, oh, well, he's still good looking. Good

59:25

to know. But, you

59:28

know, it was kind of, like, I

59:31

don't know. I wouldn't say sad to

59:33

Sam, but I was kinda like, oh, wow. Like, last time I

59:35

saw you, I was balling my eyes out going

59:38

getting on a twenty hour flight. Like,

59:40

It was just kind of brought me

59:42

back to that moment, you know, of when things ended.

59:44

But it was nice to see him again. He looks happy.

59:47

He looks healthy. So it was

59:49

nice to see him, but also just kind of a shock

59:51

to the system at first. Yeah. Brooklyn,

59:53

I have Wondery more question for you. Mhmm. Did you feel

59:55

like before you had seen

59:57

him, did you reach some

1:00:00

type of, like, internal closure? Oh,

1:00:02

absolutely. Yeah. I feel

1:00:04

like I kind of I'm

1:00:07

not big on I'm not really a closure person

1:00:09

because I feel like everything happens for reason in the

1:00:11

sense, so I'm not really didn't feel

1:00:13

like I needed to hear from him

1:00:15

the nitty gritty, like, why?

1:00:17

So I feel like when I left, I was like, okay,

1:00:19

this isn't my person. It doesn't make it hurt

1:00:21

any less. I feel like I was able

1:00:24

to reach that closure really

1:00:25

soon. Gonna make it hurt

1:00:27

me less, but

1:00:30

Also,

1:00:31

the tenant closure. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:33

That's yeah. Independent closure. That's, like,

1:00:35

one of the hardest things to do, so that's amazing.

1:00:38

No. No. Jump into that. You know, we

1:00:40

can always do it. But yeah. Aly,

1:00:44

I was on my agreement with that. Independent

1:00:47

closure part. I think by the time that

1:00:49

came out, I was good. Mainly

1:00:51

because watching him back, I

1:00:53

was gonna say there was ever any point where I

1:00:55

was just, like, oh my gosh, I'm in love with this man.

1:00:57

But, like, I feel like you're consent you're, like, hopeful

1:01:00

the entire assignment maybe, like, let's just

1:01:02

keep this going, see how this goes. Watching

1:01:04

it back and seeing him, like, put his arms around

1:01:06

my shoulders, and then his arms around other people's

1:01:09

waist. I was like, I was friends though. A

1:01:11

long time ago. And I just didn't

1:01:12

know. Mhmm. And it's

1:01:14

like, I feel like I could see

1:01:16

the body language watching it back the entire

1:01:18

time. And maybe just in our heads,

1:01:20

we were both, like, oh, but we're, like, good people.

1:01:23

Like, we're good people. Like, we'll just we'll

1:01:25

continue to, like, have discussions and talk

1:01:27

So I feel like watching it for me

1:01:29

was therapeutic because I was

1:01:31

like, this guy was never yours. Your man is not

1:01:33

gonna wrap his arm around your neck. He's gonna wrap

1:01:35

it around you

1:01:36

know, your lower back. Yes.

1:01:38

That's it. Mercedes,

1:01:40

what about for you? Yes.

1:01:42

So I was one of the girls that got us at

1:01:44

home. Over video calls.

1:01:46

So that was that was rough. So

1:01:48

seeing him in person, I was like, wow. Yep.

1:01:50

So very good looking. But

1:01:53

it was good to see him. I'm headed to same

1:01:55

way, like, watching it back,

1:01:57

I was like, damn. Yeah. No. We we were

1:01:59

cool, but, like, we there was no it

1:02:02

wasn't, like, in love. So

1:02:05

but it was it was good to see him and

1:02:07

see all the girls too. It was it was good. It

1:02:09

was fun. And your hug Then

1:02:11

you got your hug. gonna say, you got your hug. As I'm gonna

1:02:13

say, I know that was

1:02:15

so cute. I was like because I was talking

1:02:18

to Kyle, I'm like, I think we need, like, hug. Aly

1:02:20

least, you know, I don't get hug when

1:02:21

you leave. Right. So that was, like,

1:02:23

such a cute little sweet moment and

1:02:25

it was fun because he's just, like, Aly.

1:02:28

I know everyone says it, but he is so

1:02:30

freaking genuine and sweet. And,

1:02:32

like, just, like, being able to hug him

1:02:34

more time is just a really sweet

1:02:35

moment. Oh, Okay. Let's

1:02:38

get into something very exciting, which

1:02:40

is obviously Charity

1:02:42

is now the next spat. We

1:02:44

are so thrilled for her. How freaking

1:02:47

excited are all of you to see

1:02:49

one of your good friends now become this

1:02:52

lead who's about to go on this crazy

1:02:55

journey to I love. Ali, let's start

1:02:57

with you. So freaking

1:02:59

excited. I think that we definitely

1:03:02

have seen her personality. We'll see her personality.

1:03:04

I'm sure even more when

1:03:06

home sounds and stuff. But, cherry

1:03:09

and her charityisms, y'all no.

1:03:11

Y'all have not seen the half of it. Like,

1:03:14

this girl is a hoot, a hoot, a hoot. So

1:03:16

I'm so excited for her to have an entire season

1:03:18

where people get to like, yes, watch her

1:03:21

fall in love, but like see her fully for who

1:03:23

she is because I mean, not only is she

1:03:25

intelligent and brilliant, but she is hilarious.

1:03:27

And there's no other girl like her in

1:03:30

our cast.

1:03:31

So I'm super excited for people to just get

1:03:33

to know her as a person. Mhmm.

1:03:36

Oh, we can't wait. Mercedes, what about for you?

1:03:39

Yeah. I mean, Charity, like

1:03:42

said, she is Aly a hoot.

1:03:44

Like, that girl, I get around

1:03:46

here and I won't stop smiling. Like,

1:03:49

she's just so funny. She

1:03:51

is intelligent. She a therapist.

1:03:53

So, like, she's gonna be able to connect

1:03:55

with people and talk people through, like, feelings

1:03:58

and go through her. It'll be such a good season

1:04:00

because because of that, I think, as well. And then

1:04:02

on top of her her personality, it's just

1:04:04

amazing. And I know that America is

1:04:06

actually going to fall in love with her too. So

1:04:09

I'm so excited for her and she

1:04:11

deserves the world and I can't wait to find

1:04:13

or watch her find her person because she's

1:04:16

so fun to watch.

1:04:17

Okay, Brooklyn. I'm gonna pivot this question

1:04:19

and ask you if if

1:04:21

there is somebody

1:04:23

that you could not, like, looks wise, but like, the

1:04:25

perfect partner for charity. Give me three qualities

1:04:27

that this man has to have for

1:04:30

our girl. Aly.

1:04:34

has to be emotionally intelligent. Like, I mean, she

1:04:36

can hold a conversation at such

1:04:38

a high emotional level and intelligence level

1:04:40

that she's gotta be with someone that

1:04:43

is emotionally intelligent and can have those conversations

1:04:45

with her. She

1:04:48

definitely needs someone and I feel like that's quick with

1:04:50

it because she was really funny and just like click on the

1:04:52

drawing. She's gonna say something that you're like, okay.

1:04:54

Alright. So she need someone with a good

1:04:57

personality, quick witted, emotionally

1:04:59

intelligent, and someone

1:05:02

was just as big of

1:05:04

a loving heart as she has. You know, she's a

1:05:06

very loyal person. She needs someone

1:05:08

that's gonna be just as loyal to her as

1:05:10

she will be to them.

1:05:12

I love that. I love that.

1:05:14

For her. If you were

1:05:16

to pick out what, like, charity's type

1:05:18

would be, what

1:05:20

would you say? I would say

1:05:23

he's definitely tall. I feel like he

1:05:26

works out. He's got the

1:05:27

muscles. Got the body.

1:05:30

Let's see. Yeah. Does

1:05:32

someone tall and muscular? Because, I mean,

1:05:35

she's a tiny or petite girl,

1:05:37

but I feel like she needs someone

1:05:39

that's really tall and strong. That's

1:05:42

just who I'd steer it with because she's been someone

1:05:44

that's, like, good looking because I mean, she's gorgeous.

1:05:46

So Someone's gonna have to be up on her level too.

1:05:50

Oh, yeah.

1:05:52

Okay. So We

1:05:55

know she has so many great qualities. What

1:05:58

do you think are some of her most amazing ones

1:06:00

that will make her just a fabulous stand

1:06:02

up at

1:06:02

charrette? I definitely think her decisiveness

1:06:05

is something that will be very

1:06:07

helpful on this. I mean, everyone has seen the commercial

1:06:09

with the line. That separates a boy from

1:06:11

a man, and that is that's her

1:06:14

to a t, and so she's gonna need man

1:06:16

to come

1:06:16

up, show up, and show out. So -- Mhmm. --

1:06:19

she's gonna read through the b s. Yes.

1:06:22

Yeah.

1:06:23

Mercedes, what about you? Yeah.

1:06:25

I think her confidence she is such

1:06:27

a confident woman. She knows exactly what she

1:06:29

wants she needs. And because

1:06:31

of that, I think that she'll be able to

1:06:33

navigate her way through this journey in

1:06:35

such a beautiful way. And,

1:06:38

yeah, people people are gonna love her because

1:06:40

she's she's just real. She's real

1:06:42

health. So and that'll show through.

1:06:45

And now she won't have to be waiting for

1:06:47

the dates or having

1:06:48

anyone incorrect for her date. So to be able

1:06:50

to pick who she wants and go on those same dates.

1:06:53

Exactly. I'm so excited for

1:06:55

her. She's gonna kill it. It's gonna

1:06:57

be so excited. We're thrilled.

1:07:00

Okay. So we're gonna get into this

1:07:02

next part. But before that,

1:07:05

I need to ask all three of you. The

1:07:07

beaches of Paradise are waiting if

1:07:09

given the

1:07:10

opportunity, would you walk

1:07:12

those sands? Brooklyn? Absolutely.

1:07:15

Oh, yeah. I would I would

1:07:17

walk the sands of Paradise for

1:07:19

sure. Yes.

1:07:20

I love it. Aly, about you? Definitely

1:07:23

would. The the no AC thing

1:07:25

kinda makes me a little bit nervous. I don't know

1:07:27

if they have maintenance. So there

1:07:30

better be a man on that beach who's worth

1:07:32

that because -- Mhmm.

1:07:33

-- just bring a fan up. Pack your

1:07:35

fan everywhere

1:07:36

you go. Mercedes,

1:07:38

what about you? Yes. One thousand

1:07:41

percent. Yes. These girls saw me on

1:07:43

the beaches. Or I guess Brooklyn, you had your one on

1:07:45

one. So you are there. We are there. Hi.

1:07:48

Me on a beach with the sun out

1:07:50

of Margarita. I'm thriving.

1:07:53

So that is that is my

1:07:54

element. And I live on thousand per sega.

1:07:56

Well, look, we just hit half the Paradise House

1:07:59

Super franchise. Here we go. Yay. Okay.

1:08:03

You guys, this was so fun having all three of

1:08:05

you on. I I think it's it's kind of hard to

1:08:07

balance having three people to interview, but

1:08:09

I think we did a good job. It would and I just loved

1:08:11

chatting with people. But Before we let

1:08:13

you go, we always do our resource

1:08:15

section, which is basically just sharing important resources

1:08:18

with our listeners to stay in

1:08:20

the know and informed on everything. And

1:08:22

so, Brooklyn, you were just unhappy

1:08:24

hour a couple weeks ago. So, we won't have you do

1:08:26

this part, but Mercedes and Aly. We'll

1:08:29

have you, we'll share something. I'll start just

1:08:31

make it easy, then we'll have Michelle go,

1:08:33

and then the two women you

1:08:35

can share yours. So mine

1:08:38

for this week is a little bit different.

1:08:40

So basically, my little niece who's three

1:08:42

and a half is coming to stay with me this week

1:08:45

loves reading, she loves books. And so

1:08:47

I was trying to think of Wondery that I could

1:08:50

bring into her life that are

1:08:53

a bit more important, educational, informative,

1:08:56

informative, especially just in terms of

1:08:58

race. She lives in a very, very, very small town

1:09:00

in Wisconsin. So I'm

1:09:02

gonna share a couple children's books

1:09:05

around race that I think

1:09:07

people can very easily go out and buy more to

1:09:09

their children. The

1:09:11

first one is called is it starts with me.

1:09:13

It's written by Bernice King, who's

1:09:15

actually Martin Luther King Junior's daughter. Basically,

1:09:18

it's a It's a book that encourages words,

1:09:20

thoughts, actions, all through love. And

1:09:23

then two other ones that I would recommend

1:09:25

are the Aly of Black History. That

1:09:27

is by Rio Cortez, and then one is

1:09:29

called our children consor by

1:09:31

Michelle Cook. So those are my resources

1:09:34

again You can buy them on Amazon. You

1:09:36

can buy them, I'm sure, at Barnes and

1:09:38

Noble, anywhere online. So those are mine

1:09:40

for the week, and Michelle, you are up.

1:09:42

Lovely. Gotta love the children's books

1:09:45

with being the

1:09:45

teacher. Oh, yeah. But

1:09:47

to my resource, it's called all the little things. It's

1:09:49

actually just like a little short film. It's

1:09:52

four minutes. It focuses

1:09:54

purely on microaggressions and

1:09:57

that was something that was really a big piece

1:09:59

about this woman to all of not

1:10:01

a lot of people not understanding what they are

1:10:04

does a really good job of putting

1:10:06

somebody in that first

1:10:09

person seat of actually

1:10:11

seeing what it would be like to go out through the day

1:10:14

as someone knows, like, personal color. And

1:10:16

so that's called all the little things There's a few

1:10:18

places you can watch it, but the biggest place that

1:10:20

I saw is YouTube. I posted on my

1:10:22

highlights as well. But, yeah,

1:10:25

make it efficient. We're gonna make it quick. It's not

1:10:27

this massive book that you're reading. It's four minutes.

1:10:29

And yeah. Give it give it a shout out.

1:10:31

Give it a check it

1:10:32

out. Alright. Thank you, Michelle.

1:10:35

For savings, what about you? Do you have a resource

1:10:37

you can share? Yes. Red

1:10:39

table talk with Jennifer Smith. One

1:10:42

of my favorite podcasts. It's

1:10:44

three generations, so it's her mom, herself,

1:10:46

and then her daughter. And they have

1:10:49

very raw honest conversations

1:10:51

about racism and

1:10:53

everything that's going on in the world right now.

1:10:56

And I love it because it is just

1:10:58

so honest and they

1:11:01

talk about real, real, real issues. And,

1:11:03

yeah, it's a great great source that I love listen

1:11:06

to. And it's on Facebook. I think they have a few

1:11:08

on spotify, but it's mostly

1:11:10

primarily on Facebook.

1:11:11

Mhmm. Got

1:11:12

it.

1:11:13

Thank you. And,

1:11:14

Alan, what about you? Yes.

1:11:16

I have a person and she has, like, collection

1:11:19

of ways that you can use for resources,

1:11:21

but it's Morgan Nichols Harper.

1:11:24

It's her name and she has a podcast called

1:11:26

the Morgan Nichols Harper show

1:11:28

as well as tons of

1:11:31

art that she does. She's an artist that is also

1:11:34

autistic, and she didn't know that she was autistic

1:11:36

until she was an adult. And so a lot of

1:11:38

her artwork in Poland,

1:11:40

like, illustrate dealing with mental health, which

1:11:42

is just something that is not spoken

1:11:44

about in the African American media as much as it

1:11:46

should be. So it's a great resource

1:11:49

if art and poetry speaks to you

1:11:51

to just kinda get your emotions

1:11:53

out and and read

1:11:54

it. So I love all of her books,

1:11:56

but especially her podcast. Wonderful.

1:11:58

We'll check it out. Thank thank you. And again, to

1:12:00

all of our listeners, we will share these on

1:12:02

the happy hour Instagram

1:12:05

highlights real and again on our personal pages

1:12:07

too. So you can very easily check them out.

1:12:09

Well, now is the fun part before we

1:12:11

let you all go. And Brooklyn, I know you just said

1:12:13

this a few weeks ago, but we always have everyone

1:12:16

share their rose and their thorn, which is basically

1:12:18

highlight your favorite moment whether it was

1:12:20

during filming or now kind of

1:12:22

living in this chapter where everything has

1:12:25

been aired. So highlight

1:12:27

and then low light. Your thorn is like a messy,

1:12:30

awkward, maybe cringe worthy

1:12:31

moment, something that you wish maybe didn't

1:12:33

happen And so, Brooklyn, let's

1:12:35

start with you for that one. Okay.

1:12:38

So my thorn is

1:12:40

still the back that I fist bumped his poor

1:12:42

man after he told me I was a good kisser.

1:12:44

That one's still my thumbwork. Like, why did I

1:12:46

do that? I don't know. Honestly,

1:12:50

I've learned to love it at this point. I'm like, okay, it's

1:12:52

actually kind of funny, super awkward to

1:12:54

think about and watch back but nonetheless. Well,

1:12:58

that's actually better than you having turn

1:13:00

around and be like, so are you?

1:13:02

Yeah. Right? So there's no justification.

1:13:05

Because you guys verified that. Yeah.

1:13:09

Came in my rose. There are so many

1:13:11

great moments. I you know, looking

1:13:13

back, I truly think just the friendships

1:13:16

I made, you know, I didn't find

1:13:18

the love I was looking for with Zach, but I

1:13:20

found love with all these women in

1:13:22

support. So that's my rose.

1:13:24

Oh, I love that. Aly, what about

1:13:26

for you? My

1:13:29

thorn is definitely telling National

1:13:31

TV that I was gonna miss the latest man's

1:13:33

lips, changed it. It was friends to

1:13:35

watch. My friends will not

1:13:37

let me live it down. I especially

1:13:41

as I'm watching it, I'm now watching for the first

1:13:43

time. And kissed me, then kissed the next girl, then kissed

1:13:45

the next girl. And I'm like, think there were, like,

1:13:47

some on some funny meme that was just, like, girl, that's

1:13:49

you're not tasting his lips. She's tasting, like,

1:13:51

the other girls he's and all that I'm like, Jesus.

1:13:53

No. Yeah. So definitely

1:13:56

my thorn. Whoops. My bad.

1:13:58

And my rose

1:14:00

is definitely the girl. I mean, we

1:14:03

are biggest thieves. And so I'm

1:14:05

glad I got them. Tell

1:14:07

them constantly, please tell your cousins to

1:14:09

reach out to me. You know, they could

1:14:11

be my person. So

1:14:15

Just in case, I mean, you never know. Open,

1:14:17

rebuilt that roster. Girls. Mhmm.

1:14:20

So I love I love the ladies. I

1:14:23

love that. Okay.

1:14:24

Mercedes, what about you? You're Ross and Thorne.

1:14:27

Oh, okay. So my thorn, I'm from

1:14:29

Iowa. I'm a little country. So

1:14:31

in the bloopers, I did a farmers

1:14:33

blow because bug went up my nose.

1:14:35

Mhmm. And I forgot

1:14:38

I forgot I did that shit, and then I saw

1:14:40

it. I'm like, oh, into

1:14:42

the camera. Amazing. Good job, you're

1:14:45

saving it. It's

1:14:47

unbelievable. We've all been there. Yeah.

1:14:49

And it's funny, like and I actually

1:14:51

do it. So it's fine. But

1:14:55

I would say my girls, like, the

1:14:57

two girls, the girls,

1:15:00

are amazing at the Producers

1:15:02

that I met are amazing. Aly, the whole experience

1:15:04

was amazing, but I left knowing

1:15:06

that I had best friends for the rest of my life.

1:15:09

Which is something that I will never

1:15:11

take for granted. These girls are truly

1:15:14

just amazing. And we went through something that

1:15:16

only like we get and understand they're

1:15:18

like, I mean, obviously, past contestants as well.

1:15:20

But as far from our season, we just have that

1:15:23

that thing. And so we just get each other, and I'm

1:15:25

very, very, very thankful for them. Mhmm.

1:15:27

I love that. Yeah. It seems like this group

1:15:30

of women has been even more close than

1:15:32

anything we've ever seen, which is which

1:15:34

I'd Absolutely love. Also,

1:15:37

okay, you gave us your thorn. You can't forget

1:15:39

the facts of your amazing torque skills

1:15:41

in the I did see those too,

1:15:44

which I was gonna call out at the beginning.

1:15:46

But if I ever meet you in person,

1:15:48

can you please teach me? Yes.

1:15:50

I will. I got you, girl. Thank you. Yeah.

1:15:53

Oh my god. No. That I was watching it, and then I think it

1:15:55

was Katie who was, like, falling off the

1:15:56

couch, like, oh, you want it? How are you doing

1:15:58

that? So good. That

1:16:01

was like such a fun night. That was just like

1:16:03

one of those nights where it was like down night.

1:16:05

Mhmm. And I forget who it was

1:16:07

in some producers. They're like, you can

1:16:09

twirk, girl. Like, let's go teach a

1:16:11

class. I'm like, okay. Okay.

1:16:13

Let's go. This it makes it for

1:16:15

the farmers blow. girl that can do

1:16:17

it all people. Exactly. Exactly.

1:16:20

Alright. You're three. Well, it has been so much fun

1:16:22

having you on, and we've absolutely

1:16:25

loved each and every one of you on the season.

1:16:27

Hopefully, we'll be seeing more of you. I'm

1:16:29

maybe on charity season. I'm not sure.

1:16:31

But fingers crossed. But

1:16:34

we're always here if you need advice,

1:16:36

if you need anything, Michelle and I,

1:16:38

our our doors are always open, unhappy

1:16:40

hours. So please reach out if you need anything. Well,

1:16:43

thank you so much. Thank you so much.

1:16:45

You're

1:16:46

welcome. You too. That

1:16:50

was so much fun. I I really enjoyed

1:16:52

those three women having them on to

1:16:54

give their take on the towel and to just

1:16:56

pump charity up So

1:16:58

I'm sure we'll see more of them in

1:17:00

the next, who knows,

1:17:03

the next paradise season hopefully. So

1:17:05

thank you for those three women joining us.

1:17:07

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1:17:29

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