0:02

Welcome back, Happy Hour listeners. I'm

0:04

Becky Kufrin and this week I am riding

0:07

I'm taking you to the finish line

0:10

that is the finale of Zach's

0:12

season. It's crazy that

0:14

we are already here. I feel season

0:16

at times has just flew by and

0:18

at times it seemed extra long,

0:21

but made it. And today

0:23

we will have a very fun episode

0:26

because we are sitting down with the newest Bachelor

0:28

Nation and Katie together

0:30

for, well, not the first time, because they obviously

0:32

did the finale, but one

0:35

of the first interviews with happy couple.

0:37

So we're excited to hear from them

0:39

all about experience, how

0:41

life has been after filming, and to

0:43

hopefully get some plans, some

0:46

juicy details for their future

0:49

as fiancees, they finally

0:51

say that, I'm sure it feels great for them. So

0:54

before we bring them on, We're not gonna

0:56

do a full recap only

0:59

because obviously we have the couple with us.

1:01

They lived it,

1:02

they were there. They give us their

1:04

firsthand experience of everything that went down

1:06

during that week. when

1:09

I was watching this final episode, I was just

1:12

going down memory lane, how

1:15

I was feeling during that week with

1:17

emotions and such strong

1:19

feelings between two never easy.

1:22

Like that week truly is, It's

1:25

one of the happiest times, it's

1:27

also at the same

1:29

exact time, one of the stressful,

1:32

anxiety-ridden, really

1:34

sad times because you not only

1:37

are, hopefully starting your new life with

1:39

your partner, but you're also saying goodbye

1:41

to somebody that

1:44

you have been in love

1:46

with. And it's a really weird juxtaposition you

1:48

can find yourself in. And Zach

1:50

is one of the few leads who had

1:53

to experience all of that craziness. So

1:55

we will get his once

1:58

we bring on.

1:59

But before that, we'll just do

2:02

a little fun catch up for all of you listeners.

2:06

I have some fun news to share. Thomas and

2:08

I are finally, finally, finally

2:11

in our house. I know it has been

2:13

a long time coming. We have talked about it

2:15

week after week on this podcast, but

2:18

our house is 93% finished. We're

2:22

finally sleeping in it. We're living in

2:24

it. We're cooking in it. And we actually

2:27

had our first little

2:29

gathering of friends over the

2:32

other night. And if anyone follows me

2:35

or anyone in Bachelor Nation on

2:37

social media, you'll see that we had a little

2:39

reunion with Abigail and Noah,

2:42

and we had Justin and Andrew

2:45

in town, and Mikey P. and

2:47

Rodney. It was all for Rodney's birthday. So

2:50

we finally could open our doors and welcome

2:52

some friends and just cook and

2:54

eat a crap a ton of ice cream and have game

2:56

nights and drink wine. And so

2:59

that has been like

2:59

the most exciting part of my life

3:02

right now, not to make this all about me,

3:04

but that's been a really

3:06

exciting thing for us. So you'll

3:08

finally hear me stop talking about

3:10

the renovations. I know we've been talking about it since

3:12

July, so you're welcome. But

3:16

yeah, it's a good

3:18

week, I think, to celebrate all around. And

3:21

before we do any more celebrating, Once

3:25

we bring Katie and Zach on, we really

3:27

wanna celebrate their love because again, this is

3:29

the first time that they're in public and they can

3:32

do the little things like go to their grocery

3:34

store and hold hands in the street and even

3:36

say each other's names in public. So

3:38

we'll get into that. But

3:41

I do also want to

3:43

just bring up how incredible

3:45

all of the women have been this season, especially

3:48

Gabby, we saw her in the finale. And

3:50

I'm sure anyone watching

3:52

the

3:53

breakup between her and Zach. I mean,

3:55

I'm sure you felt it and you felt the emotions

3:57

with Gabby and you could feel for her in

3:59

them.

3:59

moment. Gabby, you

4:02

have remained, if you're listening, you have remained classy

4:04

until the very end and

4:06

you've still kept your spunk

4:09

and your quirk. And so we're

4:11

also wishing Gabby the best in

4:13

whatever's to come in this next

4:15

chapter of her life. It's never easy

4:18

seeing somebody get broken up with, especially

4:20

on such a public platform. But Gabby,

4:23

we love you and we're supporting you from afar.

4:25

And I think only good things

4:28

are going to be coming for you in the future, who knows

4:30

if that's paradise or what that might mean. But

4:33

I can't forget about Gabby

4:35

here

4:36

before we get into everything. But I

4:39

think with all of that, like I said, we're not going to do a

4:41

full recap because I want to hear it from the horse's

4:43

mouth themselves. So I think

4:45

without further ado, everyone, I'm going

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to be bringing on Zach and Katie for

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the first time on Happy Hour as

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Well welcome you two lovebirds.

6:37

It's fun to finally see you two together

6:40

in the flesh. How does

6:42

it feel now that you can finally say each other's names

6:45

in public? It feels

6:47

so good.

6:48

Finally truly. A long time coming.

6:51

Like the amount of times we like have

6:54

to go secret code names on our phone

6:56

and like we have to meet up at secret locations

6:59

to see each other. No one.

7:01

We're done. Okay. I need

7:03

to know what were your code names for one another? Oh

7:05

my God. So he actually had quite

7:07

a few in my phone. But

7:10

the one that lasted the longest was Lucy. Lucy.

7:14

Okay. Emoji, the picture. Lucy

7:17

with a monkey, because his favorite animal

7:19

is a monkey. How did we pick out Lucy?

7:22

I think because I didn't

7:25

have any friends who were named Lucy

7:27

and I can easily look if

7:29

somebody saw it in my phone and she was like, oh, I work with them.

7:31

And they'd be like, oh, okay. Gotcha.

7:34

Okay. And then what was the other

7:36

one? So

7:37

for Katie, it was, and it always

7:40

has been this, it's been a purple

7:42

heart emoji because her favorite color is purple,

7:44

but the dolphin right after, because dolphins

7:46

are her favorite animal. I have

7:48

like, I mean, I was just like, I'm gonna show it off.

7:50

They're like, who's Purple Heart Dolphin emoji,

7:53

like you'd like to know, wouldn't you?

7:55

I'm just thinking, like if I was

7:57

sitting behind you, like in a grocery store

7:59

scene. I'd be like,

8:02

what is this? Yeah. That's

8:04

so funny. I love the Lucy nickname. I

8:07

actually named my car after.

8:09

Yeah. I love Lucy.

8:10

I love that.

8:13

What has been the hardest

8:15

part during this waiting

8:18

period for you both?

8:22

I think like we

8:24

both just wanted to like go to a coffee shop

8:26

together. We just want to go out for dinner. And

8:29

you truly do get to know people when you

8:31

go out for dinner, how somebody treats a server

8:33

or even like hanging out with each other's

8:35

friends, like we don't see that. So I

8:37

think we were itching for that. But

8:41

I think also there was such a positive of being

8:43

isolated in, you know, a

8:45

house together.

8:47

And we learned so much about one another. And I

8:49

don't take that for granted at

8:51

all. But yeah, I think we were both

8:53

super excited to just

8:56

do normal life stuff. That

8:58

was, that was what we were like itching for,

9:00

you know, on all the happy couple of visits,

9:03

it's like, Oh, like wouldn't it just be great if we could

9:05

go to dinner tonight or like just go on a hike or

9:07

walk the city or do this and that, but

9:10

what Katie was saying of,

9:11

we started to appreciate the fact

9:14

that we had our own little bubble

9:16

and we had all this time to

9:18

just talk and cover

9:21

like a a lot of things that we don't get the time to while

9:23

we're in the show and huge

9:25

for us. And so we actually look back on it, or

9:28

we talked about it a little bit briefly,

9:30

of

9:31

as much as we wanna rush into

9:33

like going to the restaurants and coffee shops and

9:35

just doing normal life stuff,

9:37

I think there's gonna be a moment when we look back

9:39

and think like, oh, that was kind of

9:41

like a sweet time we had together where we had to be

9:44

so secretive. And it's a once

9:46

in a lifetime thing of having

9:48

to be so.

9:49

Yeah, and also life catches up to you

9:51

like he's going back to work. I'm going back

9:53

to work and you know, we're going to have

9:55

busy schedule. So I think like just like having

9:57

this moment.

9:58

No, nothing. in the way, no distractions,

10:01

having just solely intimate time

10:03

with you. It was. But

10:06

we are very

10:07

much- You're ready to be out. I

10:09

get it. I remember those months

10:11

and especially like those last

10:13

couple weeks, they seem

10:16

to just drag on so long and all

10:18

you want to do is share with the world

10:20

because I'm sure most of your friends

10:22

and family know by now. But

10:25

again, you're in this weird limbo phase where you're like,

10:27

okay, I love this person. I'm ready

10:29

to like take this next step, but I can't

10:31

quite get there yet. I have a two-part

10:33

question.

10:35

Okay, so two-part

10:37

question for you both. Now,

10:40

Zach, you seem

10:42

like a rule follower, which I am too. I

10:46

appreciate rules. I like the structure, unless

10:48

I've had a little too much wine and I get it kind

10:50

of loosey goosey, but Katie, I obviously

10:52

don't know you that well. So when

10:54

you were in these happy couple

10:57

houses,

10:58

did you at

11:00

any point throw on disguises, have

11:03

wigs, hats, glasses,

11:05

and did you ever sneak out and do

11:07

a little walk? That's my first question. And

11:09

then

11:10

adding onto that, what was like the main

11:13

thing you did to pass the time? Do you play

11:15

games? Do you cook? Do you just

11:17

chat? What did your days look like?

11:20

Yeah, I would say

11:22

we

11:23

for sure got a little,

11:26

we were very cooped up in the house and we did need to

11:28

go for a walk. So yeah, we did do

11:30

some disguises,

11:32

hats, glasses. The

11:34

full thing, hoodie on. We actually looked

11:36

more suspicious probably looking

11:38

back at it. Yeah, but like it's just

11:40

not realistic. You can't keep us in

11:42

a house for four days straight and

11:45

like not know what the weather's like

11:47

outside. So anyways, I

11:50

and I'm an outdoorsy person. Like I was

11:52

losing my marbles going inside, like

11:54

staying inside. So yeah,

11:56

we definitely did go for some blocks,

11:58

but like we were So like

12:00

we were good about it. We were. Yeah, we were smart

12:02

about it. Like we like

12:04

early on, obviously. Yeah, I'm the

12:06

role follower and like you were like we're

12:08

going on a walk on like our first one and I was like, oh,

12:11

but babe like what is

12:13

she's on we're going and you're like we're going in

12:15

here and we did it totally fine. I

12:18

think every every happy couple we

12:20

we were out. I mean we sometimes twice sometimes.

12:23

Yeah, like long one. Yeah,

12:26

but what we did that past the time in

12:28

the in the house. We

12:29

played a lot of,

12:31

obviously a little bit of drinking here and there, lots of wine.

12:34

Board games type. Like type of board

12:37

games like Jenga, which I guess we

12:39

played a lot of drinking Jenga. Anytime

12:42

there's a pool

12:43

or a hot tub, we'll do that cornhole. Yeah,

12:46

we did do that. I would say we

12:48

played a lot of games

12:51

that got to know each other. So there

12:53

was like

12:53

card games that would be like, okay.

12:56

your partner,

12:58

like

12:59

what their biggest insecurity

13:02

is, or stuff like that.

13:02

So you played a lot of those games, and

13:05

we got to know their so

13:07

well. Oh yeah. Good. Yeah.

13:10

That's so important, and especially going off of

13:12

what you both said earlier, like this is the time,

13:15

and as annoying as it is when you

13:17

don't want to have to be so

13:20

secluded for so long, it is nice

13:22

because you are in this protected space just

13:24

to truly, kind of just plain off of the

13:26

show. You just spend that one-on-one, uninterrupted

13:29

alone time with somebody. OK, before

13:31

we get into all of

13:32

the fun, the finale, the

13:35

engagement, all of the happiness stack,

13:37

I do just have one question

13:39

for you because this is something that

13:41

happened at the very beginning of

13:44

this last episode where I was

13:46

just a little confused. And it

13:49

happened probably within like the first 10 minutes,

13:51

I would say. And you're

13:54

basically to set the scene. And I understand

13:57

how crazy this last

13:59

week...

13:59

It's one of your

14:02

happiest times because you know

14:04

you're finally going to have the beginning

14:07

of this life with your partner starting. But you

14:09

also know that you have a really

14:11

hard goodbye to get to before that point.

14:14

You made a comment of like

14:17

you have regrets and

14:20

you were working through the decisions that

14:22

you had made the week prior and it was really taking

14:24

a toll on you. But

14:27

then, like, within five minutes, and

14:29

I'm sorry

14:29

to bring up Gabby in front of you because

14:32

you guys are. Oh, bring it up. But,

14:34

you know, she is part of this episode. But

14:36

Gabby Zach had questioned you at one point

14:39

of, like, do you have any

14:41

regrets? And in that moment, you

14:43

said, no, basically, like, I don't have any regrets.

14:46

I wouldn't change anything. And

14:48

for me as a viewer, I was just left a little confused

14:50

because I was like, does he have regrets about,

14:53

like, the actions that took place or,

14:55

like, the boundaries he set? So if

14:57

you would, just really quick set the

14:59

scene and kind of just speak on that

15:01

a bit more for all of the viewers

15:03

to understand where your headspace was during that,

15:06

like that whole conversation. Yeah, yeah.

15:07

And I think that's where it

15:11

could easily be seen as

15:13

like a little

15:14

confusing or muddy. And

15:16

you

15:16

know how I view

15:19

that entire like the fantasy

15:22

suite week with, you know, me setting

15:24

up those parameters. I

15:26

looked back at that and I still look back at that.

15:28

That was regret. And that's

15:31

where I made mistakes and I know I could

15:33

have been better and I didn't need to do that. And

15:35

that's always on me. So yeah, I

15:37

could have done a lot of things better. You know, in

15:40

talking with Gabby,

15:42

when I'm

15:43

like talking about like our experience

15:45

together, our relationship at the time, that

15:49

there's no regret because that's

15:51

like getting to know the person and that's how things

15:53

took

15:54

to get to the point they were, if that makes sense, but

15:57

how the fantasy

15:58

suite week went as.

15:59

a hole of me kind of derailing

16:02

it,

16:02

that was a regret. So like I know

16:04

that probably back to back and it looks like, okay,

16:07

just said he has all these regrets, but no regrets,

16:09

Gabby. Well, I don't have any regrets with

16:11

that relationship with Gabby, but I have regrets

16:14

on that entire week

16:16

of me

16:17

accidentally derailing everything.

16:19

Okay. I kind of figured that's,

16:22

oh, totally. And I kind of figured

16:24

that's what the

16:26

situation was and that's why you were saying

16:28

that. but again,

16:30

people who watch the show, they only hear

16:33

one certain thing and that's kind of what they go off of. So I wanted

16:35

to give you the space to be able to

16:37

alleviate any confusion there.

16:40

So thank you for that. Now let's

16:42

get into this final

16:44

week because you were prepping

16:47

months to find your partner. You obviously

16:49

did. Let's take it back

16:51

now to when you guys are finally on

16:54

that stage together during after the final

16:56

rows, officially as a couple,

16:59

what were you most

17:00

excited about leading up

17:03

to that moment for both of you?

17:08

I mean, first and foremost, just

17:10

excited to show her off, to everyone.

17:13

I want

17:15

all my family to spend time with her, all my

17:17

friends, I wanna do the life

17:19

of going to restaurants, coffee shops, just do

17:22

that together in this moment

17:25

on stage like kind of that kickoff point

17:27

of like this is the rest

17:28

of our lives together.

17:30

And so it was just getting to that moment. Like

17:32

I know we were both

17:33

pretty nervous and I mean when there's like a live

17:35

crowd it's terrifying. So terrifying.

17:38

But it was just like after this like

17:41

it's a new chapter for us and I can't wait.

17:43

So

17:44

yeah I agree with everything you're saying. Truly

17:48

yeah. Was there anything that you were

17:50

slightly nervous for going into that?

17:55

And like the live cameras are pretty scary. Me? Both

17:58

of you. Yes. Katie, take it away.

18:00

Um, uh,

18:04

uh, maybe stumbling in my heels,

18:06

cause I can't walk in heels, but no, I don't

18:08

think I was any, I wasn't nervous or anything.

18:11

I was just super excited to

18:13

just finally be sitting on that couch with you. And

18:16

yeah, I don't know, just starting

18:18

our lives. I think that's like the, that

18:20

was the point that we were waiting for is just

18:24

being able to announce it and just

18:26

moving forward.

18:27

I know, and I'm so tired of being on

18:29

that stage not with her on

18:31

my side. Yeah. So. I

18:34

know. Yeah, it's those moments that you want to share

18:36

with your partner and you can't quite until

18:39

last night. So I get it. It

18:42

was a long time coming. You both looked lovely

18:45

and I mean, we're excited to see, I feel like this

18:47

was just the jumpstart to everything. I will warn

18:49

you, you do have a crazy couple

18:51

weeks ahead with a lot

18:53

of press. a

18:55

lot of press. I will tell you right now,

18:58

anywhere you go out in public, whether

19:00

it's

19:01

even on a walk, a grocery store,

19:04

out to dinner, you will be bombarded.

19:06

So prep now. Try to always

19:09

carry dental floss with you so you don't have food in

19:11

your teeth because that was my problem for a

19:13

while. But people, you'll

19:15

just receive so much love and support and people

19:18

just want to share in that with

19:20

you. So I'm warning you now, your cheeks are going

19:23

to be burning from smiling.

19:27

But enjoy it.

19:29

It's a fun time. Okay,

19:31

let's go back to... So you spend

19:34

the last two weeks of the finale

19:36

in Thailand, which is

19:38

such a beautiful place. Was that... Have you either of

19:40

you been there before or was that your first times?

19:43

I've been there. Yeah, we both actually have been there. That

19:45

was the only place I've been to outside

19:48

of the country, actually before this whole thing. Okay,

19:50

okay. Did you, I mean, taking

19:52

the show out of it, were you either of you able

19:54

to experience like anything new culturally

19:58

with the food, anything.

20:02

No, no, no,

20:05

you were like, you're like, I was stuck in my hotel

20:07

room when I wasn't with some

20:09

of the girls actually went and did stuff like

20:11

Ariel, she went

20:13

and hung out with elephants. Gabby

20:15

was riding around on her bike and all

20:17

this stuff. And I was in a pool

20:19

drinking. That sounds

20:22

lovely too. Yeah, I mean, it

20:24

was good.

20:25

You can do that in any country. Yeah.

20:28

They had to experience a whole lot. I mean, as

20:30

we saw in the last episode, monkeys

20:33

almost attacked me, so that was new.

20:36

The monkeys almost

20:38

attacked me. They're aggressive

20:40

out there. They're so aggressive. Like, just

20:42

carry the crap out. You can't carry anything.

20:45

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20:47

out and like, they'll take your water

20:49

bottle or they'll take your food, whatever.

20:53

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20:55

They're like, no. Her whole family

20:57

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20:58

They're intense. They're intense. OK. What

21:01

was that last week like for

21:03

both of you? I mean, Zach, obviously you were able

21:06

to see your family for the first time in months. And

21:08

Katie, that was your first time meeting them. What

21:11

was it like going into that? Can Katie,

21:13

for you, did you learn anything new

21:16

about Zach from his family that you didn't know before?

21:18

I think it just validated and confirmed that

21:20

he had an amazing heart. And just hearing what

21:22

his mom had to say, his dad

21:24

his sisters everything

21:26

was just... Yeah

21:29

just confirm that you

21:31

know, I know your mom said

21:33

that you were more traditional

21:35

and I think I was like, okay, I didn't really realize

21:37

that but I think that's what I maybe

21:39

learned but other than that, it was, yeah, it

21:42

just confirmed that

21:43

you know, I know your mom said

21:45

that you were more traditional

21:47

and I think I was like, okay, I didn't really realize

21:50

that but I think that's what I maybe

21:52

learned but other than that it was just kind of like

21:55

just confirming that he had an amazing heart. I already

21:58

knew that at that point, but... Yeah.

22:01

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22:04

What are you whispering? Okay, for everyone

22:06

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22:08

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22:11

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22:13

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22:15

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22:18

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22:20

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24:21

Zach, what was it like for you being

24:23

able to see Katie interact with your

24:25

family for that first time?

24:27

I mean,

24:30

I mean, I was so excited to have her actually

24:32

finally meet like my

24:34

mom and my dad, I was like, what was most excited about. I

24:36

knew she she'd get along with my sisters.

24:38

I mean, my sisters are crack ups. And I don't know,

24:41

like

24:41

how much of their personality is really shown or not.

24:43

But they're awesome. And I know

24:45

you've got along with it. But

24:46

talking to your sisters was like talking to my friends. Yeah,

24:49

it was very comfortable. Yeah,

24:52

yeah. And I remember like seeing you after the

24:54

fact. I was Like I knew it went well,

24:56

like I could just tell,

24:58

but also like what my family

25:00

like told me afterwards, it was just like,

25:02

yeah, it's just different. Like with you two,

25:04

there's this aura like around you both.

25:07

And I

25:08

was like, I know, like,

25:10

I don't know. It

25:12

was just like

25:14

everything went smooth. I know my dad kind of

25:17

scared you a little bit, but I'm going to tell you this. He

25:20

was

25:21

very jet lagged, had quite

25:23

a bit of whiskey, and that man can

25:25

talk. So he, I've

25:29

been apologizing ever since the baby about

25:31

that all.

25:33

Cause he's really a big daddy bear, but

25:35

he had too much Jack Daniels.

25:38

Yeah, he kind of frightened me a little

25:40

bit. I thought for sure more

25:42

of the uncomfortable conversation

25:45

would come from his mom

25:47

for some reason. I don't know why.

25:49

And then I thought it would go like really smoothly with his

25:52

dad, but his dad just

25:54

like laid into me. And I was like, kind

25:56

of take him back a little bit, not like laid into

25:58

me in a bad way, but just kind of like.

26:00

I remember and I always bring this up to Zach,

26:02

but he's like, it was like all fun and

26:04

games. And then he's like, so what happens when the commission

26:07

check doesn't come in? What are you gonna do?

26:09

I'm like. That was not shown.

26:11

This is new to us. How

26:13

did you answer that? I mean, good

26:15

point. What happens? I mean. I

26:17

was

26:17

like, oh my God, that are you kidding me. Yeah, so

26:20

I was like sitting there freaking out. And then

26:22

I was like, where is Zach? Yeah.

26:25

Oh my God. Well, that's so funny

26:27

because we didn't, I mean, obviously they can

26:30

only include such a short bit of each conversation,

26:32

but what we did see with

26:34

you and Katie, I actually thought it was very

26:37

special and just so real is you got

26:40

pretty emotional with his entire

26:42

family. And I don't think, correct me

26:44

if I'm wrong, I don't think you were expecting

26:47

that, right? Like, not that it got

26:49

heavy, but you just, I felt like were so

26:51

overcome with your

26:54

emotion and your love and your respect for

26:56

this man, that that was like a moment

26:58

where for me as a viewer, I was like, damn, she

27:01

really does love this man.

27:03

Yeah, no, absolutely. And

27:06

I think it just became like very surreal

27:09

for me too. I mean, there,

27:10

I mean, it was before, but I

27:12

think it was like,

27:14

I can see myself

27:15

in this family. And it just like, it was

27:18

like, a lot of it was like tears of joy, I think.

27:21

But it was overwhelming. Like your

27:23

life's about to turn upside down. could

27:26

go

27:27

good or could go bad. So

27:30

yeah, lots of cheers for sure.

27:33

But so Zach, I know

27:35

when we had you on a couple weeks

27:37

ago now, we had talked a little bit

27:39

about like hometowns and

27:42

where you were at in terms of getting

27:45

parents blessings. Were you at any

27:47

point able before you proposed

27:49

to Katie at the end, able to

27:52

call Katie's parents and

27:54

ask for that? or was it once you returned?

27:57

And I'm just assuming you asked for the blessing now,

27:59

but I could be...

27:59

very wrong, but when were you able to

28:02

do that with her family.

28:03

I asked for her mom's blessing

28:05

when I met her out in Austin. So

28:08

it was it was that we can.

28:11

I met

28:12

her lovely family that is so much fun

28:14

and I and I was like really like

28:16

nervous for that conversation with with her mom

28:18

and and

28:19

I just like

28:21

really soft future there and I wanted her to

28:24

like feel comfortable with me possibly

28:26

being in their family and it it was really important

28:28

to me to make sure that, you know, that she

28:31

approved of me

28:33

possibly joining the family. So.

28:35

Oh, you little sneakster. Cause I know when

28:37

we asked you, you played so cool. You were like,

28:40

no, I didn't necessarily want to do that. Unless

28:42

I knew it was like

28:44

the person. Okay. Okay. It's

28:46

coming together. I think

28:48

you asked everybody. Well, I don't, I don't

28:50

respect. Yeah. Like it wouldn't be

28:52

like, Yeah, it wasn't

28:55

like a, yeah. Katie's the one at that point.

28:58

Now, exactly. Maybe he did know. Zach,

29:00

okay, for both of you. Well, okay,

29:02

Zach, I'm just gonna ask you this, then.

29:04

When was the one moment

29:07

that you knew? And

29:10

I will say this too, because the show

29:13

does a great job of showing all

29:15

love stories and showing all relationships and connections.

29:17

And obviously at the end, I mean,

29:20

no surprise, there's two people left and they always

29:23

show like this struggle

29:25

of like, I don't quite know up until like the

29:27

last moment. That is false

29:30

people. Sometimes people just know ahead

29:32

of time. So Zach,

29:34

on the record, when did you know it was

29:37

Katie?

29:40

Yeah, on the record on the record. So

29:44

like the exact like moment

29:46

where I mean, it was, it

29:48

was without a doubt,

29:51

I knew without any sliver

29:54

was when I saw her at the last

29:56

chance date when we were at the

29:58

waterfall. I put

30:00

my eyes on her and I was like, I'm

30:03

an idiot. Like, it's

30:05

you, it's been you.

30:07

What was the energy of

30:09

that last date like? And

30:12

I hate that they call it the last chance date.

30:15

Yeah, last chance. It sounds like- I'm

30:17

a finder person. Yeah, right? It's like

30:19

such a Hail Mary. Like, let me just lob this

30:21

ball down and see where it lands. It has such,

30:24

it just sounds so terrible. I wish

30:26

they had a different name for it, But what

30:28

was the energy like? I, you

30:31

know, because I'm not either one of you

30:33

and I have

30:34

a completely different experience of what my last

30:36

dates were, but for both of you,

30:38

what was the energy like going into that?

30:41

I'd say it was pretty good. I mean, definitely

30:44

based on the last date. More than

30:46

that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

30:49

I totally agree. Yeah. You're like, anything

30:51

is better than that. Yeah. Yeah.

30:54

No, but I think overall, I mean, for me, And obviously you

30:56

say your piece on it too, but I

30:59

thought it was good for sure.

31:01

Like I was happy going into it.

31:03

I was a little like, I

31:06

think just like with the show, I was

31:08

just like,

31:11

like ready to not be in front

31:13

of the camera anymore. I just wanted to take

31:15

him in that moment and just,

31:17

let's get out of here, screw all

31:19

the messes and all that. But no,

31:21

it was really good. It was really sweet. I

31:23

really liked the evening portion of

31:25

our day, but all

31:28

of it was just really good for

31:29

me. Katie, usually

31:32

during that time, we're

31:36

expecting, I'm saying we, I'm still part of the

31:38

show with you, but we're expected to give the

31:40

lead or make the lead a little

31:42

gift. Did you do that and have anything

31:44

for Zach?

31:45

I did, and I've never even talked

31:47

to you about this. No, we've never talked about this. Never.

31:51

So I actually think

31:53

it was, hometowns is when

31:56

it was kind of like, We started talking

31:59

about it. Um, because

32:01

we were obviously going to Thailand, but

32:04

so we made, I made a

32:06

door knocker.

32:08

So it's like for our first home

32:10

and it says home to eat home.

32:13

Welcome to Zach and Katie's house.

32:15

I had no idea. Yeah. Do

32:18

you still have it? In

32:21

Canada, but, oh

32:23

my, actually funny. my mom,

32:26

when I was I was packing to come

32:28

here, I was looking at

32:31

it. And my mom's like, What is that? And I was like,

32:33

Oh, it's this gift that I was supposed

32:35

to give Zach, but we never actually did

32:37

it.

32:38

And oh, my gosh, me. I'm like,

32:40

it is sweet. I was like,

32:42

I have the chills. Well, that's actually very

32:45

precious because and I do want to get

32:47

into your future plans. But I feel like now this

32:49

is perfect timing to

32:51

hang it on your door wherever I I mean, you already

32:53

had Zach help you put together furniture and everything.

32:56

So this is just a great addition. Smart.

33:00

I can screw in a light bulb pretty

33:02

well. Oh my gosh, that's

33:04

so cute. Okay,

33:07

so

33:08

let's get down to the last

33:11

big best day. Zach,

33:14

how did you prepare for

33:16

that? Did you have a game plan of what

33:19

you wanted to say? Were you just gonna

33:21

kind of wing it? because this was

33:24

the first time,

33:26

and correct me if I'm wrong here, but this was the first time

33:28

you were gonna tell Katie you loved her,

33:30

correct? Yeah, yeah. Okay,

33:33

so talk us through your head space and

33:35

plan for that day. So it was

33:37

actually the night before I started,

33:41

I wanted to have something prepared

33:43

because I really wanted her to know

33:45

how much she means to me, how much I love her. And

33:47

I wanted it to be beautifully written if

33:52

I could, but I just wanted to be really special for

33:55

her. And so I started the night before,

33:57

and then I continued it like

33:59

in the morning. And

34:02

when everything was all set and then I was up on that

34:04

stage and she was walking towards me.

34:06

I mean, my knees were trembling. I was like, my voice

34:09

was already starting to crack. And I was like,

34:11

I couldn't contain my smile. And

34:13

I was like, oh shit, this whole

34:16

script I had in my head of like what I want to say to

34:18

her before I get on one knee. Like, I'm going to try to remember

34:21

it. And I remember

34:23

just going on and I was getting emotional

34:25

because I was so happy and just seeing like

34:28

you like looking at your eyes and. looking at your eyes and falling

34:30

more and more in love. And I think you just said, just kiss

34:33

me already. I

34:33

did. And I

34:36

wanted something prepared, but

34:39

once I was just up there, it was just- You spoke from

34:41

your heart. I spoke from your heart. Truly, you

34:44

could tell.

34:45

Yeah. I was like, I

34:47

wrote out a speech and then I was trying to memorize

34:50

it. I'm like, I'm gonna fumble the bag. I'm gonna like,

34:52

I don't know, just my words are gonna get all jumbled

34:55

up and whatever. But- You killed it. Yeah,

34:57

I don't think I did. I remember.

34:59

No, you did.

35:01

I did. I fumbled. No, you

35:03

did not fumble. You crushed it. You

35:06

did not fumble anything. Well, both

35:08

of you, I think you spoke from the heart. And

35:10

this is something that I saw, I

35:13

really think I saw with you two on

35:15

your first date and just throughout, but like even

35:17

now, you both just have this ease

35:20

about you

35:21

between the two of you. Like you just seem,

35:23

obviously you're so happy right now, but you just

35:26

also seem so calm and you

35:28

center each other, which is really special. And I think

35:31

that last day, usually

35:34

you can kind of tell if something seems rehearsed

35:36

and people ran through certain things in their

35:39

head, but for both of you, it just

35:41

seemed to flow. As you said, from the heart,

35:43

it was really beautiful. So

35:45

one thing that I want to ask both

35:47

of you, because especially

35:49

in the moment

35:51

of the proposal and finally

35:53

be able to say, I love you and know

35:55

that it's just the two of you from here and out, There's so

35:58

much excitement. I'm sure there were. So

36:00

many giggles and inside jokes and just

36:02

like you were just elated Obviously

36:05

that can't all be shown. So was

36:07

there anything? During

36:10

that last day that

36:12

that you both remember that's echo to you that we

36:15

just miss his viewers

36:16

You want me I'll

36:18

take it away so after

36:24

Okay, this is still a conversation

36:29

At some point after

36:32

the proposal, there's this beautiful

36:34

swing right on the sand

36:36

overlooking the water. We're just having

36:38

this amazing time. We're like, we look

36:41

like kids running around

36:43

and we see this swing and we're like, yeah,

36:45

screw it. Let's just get on this swing together. And

36:48

she's holding onto me and I'm

36:50

like getting the swing ready. But

36:52

I think she's holding onto

36:55

the swing. So I'm just holding onto her. So we have

36:57

no foundation on this. And

36:59

on our first little swing

37:01

up,

37:02

we both

37:03

fall completely on the back of our heads,

37:06

smack dab on top of the advice that

37:08

we had on us. Like totally like

37:10

screwing up our bodies

37:12

covered in sand. And. It

37:14

was so funny. Yeah. And then

37:16

you see like all the producers, the cameramen

37:18

being like, are you okay? And

37:20

I'm like laughing my ass off

37:23

in the sand. I'm like, this is so funny,

37:25

as if it's happened.

37:26

All I see, my last memory

37:28

was just seeing your heels go up in the

37:30

sky.

37:31

Yeah. Oh my gosh. And of course you're wearing

37:33

a white dress too. Right? Of

37:35

course that's how it happens. They're probably like,

37:38

damn it, we need the paramedics for these

37:40

newly engaged people. Those

37:42

are the best, so that's like, those are moments that I

37:44

wish they included in the bloopers because like, and

37:48

you're probably on cloud nine, you're like, this doesn't even

37:50

hurt, but like, it is what it is. Katie,

37:53

I have to tell you this, we're all

37:55

over the place here, but I have to say, the way

37:58

that you say sorry.

37:59

I feel like I'm saying it like you know. Sorry.

38:03

Sorry. I find it so endearing.

38:06

Thank you. Yeah, a lot of people thought

38:08

it was psychotic the way that I said it,

38:10

but I mean, I can't

38:13

change it. It's Canadian. It's

38:15

you. I think we were in Estonia

38:19

when we brought it up. We were bringing up like how

38:21

you can hear my accent. I'm

38:23

like, okay, you say sorry. And then we're like

38:25

back and forth saying it. And I'm like...

38:27

And there's another one. one. Sorry

38:30

and oh he thinks I say about weird.

38:32

Like about? No, you do. It

38:35

is a very Canadian like Midwest thing about.

38:38

About. About. About.

38:41

Zach you're gonna start picking it up. You're gonna start talking

38:44

like Katie. I'm telling you. So she already

38:46

has me on the hey

38:47

that's a pretty good thing eh?

38:49

Oh yeah I say a lot. It's

38:51

so funny moving down to the states everybody's

38:54

like When a Canadian says, A, it's

38:56

like this huge thing. They're like, the Canadian

38:58

said, A. I was like, come on.

39:01

I'm from Minnesota, so we're neighbors.

39:03

So I feel like we do very

39:06

similar things. OK,

39:08

so one thing during

39:10

the proposal that I kind

39:13

of knew what was coming, Zach, but

39:15

Katie, your face for a hot second,

39:18

you were like, oh, what choice is this going to go?

39:20

So, Zach, right before you

39:22

tell Katie that you love her, you

39:26

lead into this beautiful speech of like,

39:29

I've gotten to know you and I'm

39:31

paraphrasing here, but it was basically like,

39:34

I've been falling in love with you. And

39:36

then you hesitate and you give a little

39:38

pause there and Katie's face,

39:41

Katie's face, they zoom in and she doesn't

39:43

quite know which way it's gonna go. So,

39:45

Katie,

39:47

was there a slight moment where

39:49

you were like, Oh shit, this is not

39:52

gonna go my way. I

39:54

think, yeah, there's obviously that in

39:56

the back of your head, it's like, okay, This might

39:59

not be me. Which is

40:01

so scary and the thought of it is extremely

40:04

devastating because my whole

40:06

heart belonged to him. But

40:09

yeah,

40:09

I think... Are

40:12

you new? I was

40:14

confident. I think like before

40:17

that moment, like walking out, I was talking

40:19

to Jesse before I walked around the corner. And

40:22

I was confident.

40:23

And I was confident in us, but you still

40:25

don't know. I don't know, but I'm also confident

40:28

in who I am too and what I have to

40:31

offer. And I think I

40:33

was like,

40:34

it is what it is at this point. He either

40:36

loves me or he doesn't and

40:40

everything happens for a reason. I think I just

40:42

kind of had that outlook but I did have

40:44

a confidence that it wasn't gonna be

40:46

me. Okay, so let's get

40:48

into future plans. So

40:50

last night on stage, you announced

40:53

that you two are

40:56

moving in together. Give

40:58

us like a little timeline and what that looks

41:00

like.

41:02

Yeah.

41:04

So basically after

41:07

all this press and chaos that we have,

41:10

Zach is gonna go back to Anaheim. He's

41:12

gonna pack all his stuff up and he's gonna drive to Austin.

41:15

I started contract, so I'm

41:18

going to be living

41:20

separately for three months and then we're gonna

41:22

move in together in the summer. In

41:25

the summer. Yeah. In Austin, correct? Yeah.

41:28

Okay.

41:28

How exciting.

41:30

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42:54

What are you both most looking

42:56

forward to forward to about finally cohabitating.

42:59

There's waking up to you

43:01

every morning. Really? Yeah.

43:04

Mrs. Morning person. Wow. Still

43:08

waking up. Yeah, I

43:10

cannot wait for just like

43:12

every morning to roll over.

43:15

Like,

43:16

I usually get like,

43:17

I'm pretty energetic in the morning like randomly

43:20

is when it gets me and she's a little bit slower to

43:22

get energy in the morning. So I

43:24

love just rolling over and the thought

43:26

of just every day rolling over, seeing

43:29

your face, pissing

43:30

the hell out of it.

43:32

Yeah, nothing specific. Just

43:35

I guess doing it. Just

43:37

doing it. Yeah. So

43:40

when you brought him back for your

43:42

hometown, Katie, we saw

43:44

him, you know, you put him to work, he was putting together

43:46

some furniture. Is that the apartment

43:49

that you will both be living in? or are you going to find

43:51

a new one for both of you?

43:54

No, so that place I

43:56

don't live in there anymore. Travelers

43:59

is that

43:59

once you're done a contract, you usually just

44:02

like,

44:03

get a new place. So

44:06

I was in a different I was in a studio actually,

44:08

this last contract,

44:10

while it's been airing. But

44:13

you know, we won't be in that

44:16

house. No, okay.

44:18

That's actually setting something

44:20

up for himself at the moment.

44:23

And then we'll

44:23

probably move in. So that one. Yeah,

44:26

together. Yeah. We're looking

44:28

like a year in Austin at least.

44:30

Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

44:31

we love Austin. Yeah. It's

44:33

a great city. I've only been there once, but I

44:35

would go back in the heartbeat. There's so much

44:38

to do. The people are super friendly,

44:41

really good food. So that's

44:43

a good spot to land on. And I think like

44:45

a good start, a good city to start

44:47

this next chapter in together.

44:50

It's going to be so exciting.

44:53

Well, is there anything that you're nervous for? Have either

44:55

of you lived with a partner before? Is this

44:57

both of your first times? I

45:00

haven't lived with anybody yet.

45:01

Like actual full

45:04

time, this would be the first time.

45:05

Yeah.

45:06

Katie's face. It'll

45:09

be fun. It'll be, I mean, I

45:11

will say there's gonna be times where

45:14

you will need some space. So just have like a

45:16

code word or a separate

45:18

room that you can just go in and

45:20

like do your own thing. But

45:23

you guys will have a blast. It's

45:25

really fun living

45:26

with your best friend. He's

45:29

really good with me. He knows that

45:32

I need my space to recharge,

45:35

because my life's so chaotic. Well, it has been.

45:38

But he's always so good. He's like, do you need some

45:40

space? Are you OK? And it's not because I'm giving attitude

45:42

or anything. He knows me, and he's like, OK,

45:45

this might be a time where doing

45:48

OK. Yeah, but I'll try not

45:50

to

45:50

get in the way. you deal

45:53

with stuff because that's.

45:54

Yeah, no he's.

45:56

If you can find a place with two separate bathrooms,

45:59

That is the advice.

45:59

I would give you like have Zach's

46:02

quarters and Katie's quarters in

46:04

the bathroom. I

46:07

feel like you would butt heads if like we

46:11

were messy people but this

46:14

one is so organized like

46:16

so organized you are and

46:18

then I'm like slinging my stuff around my suit.

46:21

The way I pack my suitcase with the hangers already. Oh

46:24

yeah. But you keep your hangers on

46:26

your clothes in the suitcase? Yeah is

46:28

that crazy?

46:29

So I could just like pull them out and hang them

46:32

up anywhere I go.

46:33

Okay, wait, are you the type of

46:35

person that every time you go

46:37

somewhere, you have to unpack your clothes? Like

46:40

you go to any hotel and you have to hang your clothes

46:42

or put them in the dresser?

46:42

Yes, dress shirts. No,

46:45

every time I come to a happy couples weekend, everything

46:48

is like his shirts are piled

46:51

up in the closet or in a drawer and

46:53

then he's got things hung. I'm like, oh my goodness. I

46:56

didn't know that you did the hanger thing because every time you're

46:58

here first, so I don't see you take your hanger.

47:01

I just bring my own hangers, yeah. Because

47:03

I don't know if like a hotel will have it all.

47:06

And I just like, because it, yeah, I just

47:08

like open the suitcase, grab the shirts that are on the hangers,

47:10

boom, done. Doesn't that just take up extra

47:13

space and weight though in your suitcase?

47:15

Mm.

47:18

Yeah, I've got a pretty big

47:20

suitcase.

47:21

Oh my gosh, this is so funny. Katie, you're

47:23

learning something new about him. There

47:25

you go. I am. Katie's

47:27

like, I don't know how I feel about that. OK,

47:30

I have to ask this question. And

47:33

apologies in advance because I hated

47:35

every time I was asked this,

47:37

like right after the finale. But

47:40

I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't

47:42

ask it because the show is about finding love

47:45

and getting engaged. Have

47:47

you had any ideas,

47:50

plans, thoughts,

47:51

timeline in regards to

47:53

a wedding? I

47:55

can take it. So like

47:58

Katie and I have talked about it.

47:59

And we think that, you know, since we've been going

48:02

a

48:03

million miles an hour on the show, like,

48:05

you know, the show is it's a rushed environment.

48:07

Like, that's the nature of it. And

48:10

we think we have the rest of our lives

48:13

to have, like,

48:15

to spend with each other that we don't need to

48:18

rush a wedding or rush anything. Everything

48:20

up until this point, in a sense, has been rushed.

48:22

So we decided like we're just going

48:24

to enjoy and focus on our move to Austin together,

48:26

do life up there, have our friends

48:29

all meet, just get that time

48:31

together. And then

48:32

we'll figure it out. Like, we're in no rush.

48:36

I love her to death and it's

48:38

all gonna work.

48:39

Yeah. I respect that. I mean, take time

48:42

now because it's gonna be so different from what

48:44

you have been experiencing. So do your

48:46

own thing on

48:48

your own timeline. No pressure.

48:51

Yeah. Kind of like takes like a pressure off

48:53

everything. Because it's like, while this has been

48:55

airing and like even in the show, like there's an

48:57

immense amount of pressure on everything. And now

48:59

it's just like, all

49:00

right, we get to do

49:01

as much of a normal life as we

49:03

can now. And there's

49:05

no way. Yeah, I could see it in like

49:07

the next two years. But I would think that

49:10

really got two years of little

49:12

ones in four, three. Yeah. Oh,

49:16

little babies. Well, I can't wait to

49:18

see what happens next for you both. It's gonna

49:20

be such a wild but fun

49:22

time. Things will calm

49:24

down eventually, and then you'll finally

49:26

feel like you're in a routine and

49:29

the dust has settled, which is the best part,

49:31

truly. Okay, so

49:33

before we get into wrapping

49:36

up all of this, for

49:38

both of you, I mean, you've lived

49:40

it now, and Zach, you've now lived two

49:43

seasons. If you had

49:45

any advice to share with anyone

49:47

out there, either looking for love, or

49:50

even potentially thinking about going

49:53

on this

49:53

crazy journey, what advice would you give

49:55

them?

49:58

is

49:59

question.

50:01

I would say just

50:03

be yourself and I think also

50:06

try to be

50:08

the best version of yourself before

50:11

giving yourself to someone else too. It's

50:15

beautiful. It is beautiful. That's

50:18

that's a wedding. That's

50:21

me. About

50:24

you. I would say like maybe more

50:27

specific to like

50:29

someone putting themselves out there like in

50:31

this show environment like to find

50:33

love. And I

50:35

was like asked this question I think like

50:38

for advice for charity but it can be like

50:40

for just people and love is

50:43

like have fun with like everything

50:46

you can because it's like like

50:48

love is something that is so fun and exciting

50:50

and sure it's scary but it's like one of the

50:52

best feelings about the best feelings in the world. in the world, like

50:55

falling in love and having your person. So

50:59

have fun with it. Like don't like overcomplicate

51:01

it. Don't stress it. Like I made mistakes in the

51:03

show of trying to overcomplicate of

51:07

the path to get there. When in reality, it's just like

51:09

letting yourself feel and have fun

51:12

and love is a pretty great thing. So

51:15

just have fun. It's an amazing thing. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

51:18

Look at those smiles, you two little smitten

51:21

kittens over here. Okay,

51:23

well, this is the perfect time then. We're

51:25

gonna get into our little

51:27

game here. It's our newly engaged

51:30

game, very simple. Basically,

51:32

I'm gonna throw a question at you and you

51:35

both have to answer at the same time, whether

51:37

it's Zach or Katie. So

51:39

I'll throw like the question,

51:42

the one liner out to you and just

51:44

say which one of you two it is. So let's

51:46

start with this one.

51:48

Who is more romantic?

51:50

Zach. Zach. Yeah.

51:54

Who has the cleaner car? Three,

51:57

two, one. Zach. Okay.

52:00

Who is more organized? Three, two,

52:02

one.

52:03

That. This is a good one.

52:06

Who is more stubborn? Three, two,

52:08

one. Baby. I'll

52:12

put it after my own heart. Who

52:15

is the pickier eater? Three,

52:17

two, one. Spicy. Well,

52:20

yeah, I don't like spicy

52:22

foods. You

52:24

don't like eggs, but I feel like that equals

52:27

his own. Next

52:29

question. Who takes longer to get ready? Three,

52:32

two, one.

52:33

Yay. Who's the better dancer?

52:36

Three, two, one. Yay. No,

52:40

wait. Really? No,

52:42

you're not. Who is the better

52:44

driver? Three, two, one.

52:47

Me. OK, next question. Who

52:50

is the funny one? Three, two, one. Me.

52:54

OK. Who's the better cook? Three,

52:56

two, one. Well,

52:59

you can't just say both every answer. I

53:01

did. I cook really good salmon. You

53:03

cook really good steaks and other protein. I

53:06

think we bounce each other out and we make good

53:08

meals.

53:08

Great meals. Yeah. Last

53:11

question here. And then we can wrap this up and

53:13

get to the fun stuff too. Who

53:16

spends more time on social media?

53:19

Three, two, one.

53:20

Yay. Jamie. Well,

53:23

it's a good way to pass the time, especially when you're stuck in a house

53:25

for four days. Um,

53:28

don't want social media at

53:30

all. At all. Like I, if I'm on my phone,

53:32

it's probably

53:33

like a puzzle game. We're

53:36

reading emails. Like that's, yeah, I'm not a

53:38

big social media guy. Yeah.

53:39

Well, that's probably the best. I mean, this is

53:41

also such a crazy time where as

53:43

you both have seen like people either

53:46

love you or they hate you and it's just,

53:48

it can be a very scary place. So that's probably good

53:50

to just stay off of social

53:53

media for a while. All

53:55

right. Let's get into

53:57

our

53:57

last part, which is

53:59

our resource section

54:02

of the podcast. Now, Zach, I know

54:04

you know how this goes, but Katie, basically,

54:07

we love to keep our listeners informed

54:09

and up to date on very important topics. So

54:11

I will kick it off, and then I will let you

54:13

two go. So my

54:16

resource for this week,

54:18

it's a docu-series

54:20

called Eyes on the Prize. And it's

54:23

basically broken up by, like, different years,

54:25

timeframes, decades, but it's the

54:28

docu-series about different events

54:30

and people that have basically helped end

54:32

the countries or helped

54:35

try to aim to eradicate this

54:37

country's longstanding history of discrimination

54:40

and segregation. Obviously we still have a

54:42

ways to go but that

54:44

is my resource eyes on the prize and

54:47

now you too if you have

54:48

one that you would like to share please do so.

54:50

I would

54:54

say I

54:54

think incorporating me as a

54:56

a nurse, my profession and diversity

54:59

ones kind of neat.

55:01

So with my line of work,

55:03

especially in the emergency department, we have

55:05

this association called ENA, so

55:08

Emergency Nurses Association, and it's an

55:10

organization that actually

55:12

represents a lot of nurses

55:14

and they have a webpage that supports

55:17

DEI

55:19

and it just embodies

55:22

equality as well as,

55:24

oh my

55:26

god,

55:27

wasn't it? It's like it's cool

55:29

because it's they they staff like emergency

55:32

nurses across the country but they staff of all

55:34

backgrounds and they go to all hospitals

55:36

regardless of

55:38

background, race, religion, anything like

55:40

that and that's like their prerogative.

55:42

Yeah. It's

55:43

really cool. It supports like volunteers.

55:46

It also has like a bunch of courses and

55:48

resources that just

55:51

integrate all that. So it's super cool. Awesome.

55:54

I feel like that's so important in, I

55:56

mean really any career path but especially

55:59

for

55:59

nursing and the healthcare field. It's

56:02

so needed. So thank you for

56:05

sharing that. And now is the last fun

56:07

part before you can go out and live your lives.

56:10

This is our

56:12

Rose and Thorne. So basically your

56:15

highlight, best,

56:17

favorite moment or memory from

56:20

this entire time, whether it was filming, whether

56:22

it was during the time when you were getting

56:24

to know each other during like the the slim bow phase or

56:26

now. And then obviously the thorn is the

56:29

opposite. So an awkward moment, a moment you

56:31

maybe wish didn't happen

56:32

or a learning lesson. So with

56:35

that, you two take it away.

56:39

Right, I'll do the rose and then

56:41

you do the thorn. Deal. I

56:44

would say the rose

56:45

would be me getting the final

56:47

rose. No. Valid.

56:52

No, in my roses,

56:54

marrying my best friend and

56:56

my thorn.

56:57

Oh, you're doing

56:59

both. Okay. Well, I was just,

57:02

I had to. Yeah. And

57:08

then my thorn is kind of the

57:10

events of the

57:11

week prior, the

57:16

way I

57:16

went into the week, the way I tried

57:19

to

57:19

create parameters and

57:22

these really unnecessary

57:24

boundaries and

57:26

having it affect everyone's the

57:29

way it did. Like that was not my intention and ever was,

57:31

and yet it kind of doesn't matter.

57:33

It was a decision I made

57:36

and it's something

57:38

I look back with regret

57:40

on how I handled it, but that

57:42

was a really tough moment, but a learning

57:44

and a growing point for me. And

57:48

well said, babe. Yeah. Well,

57:50

you two, we are so excited for you.

57:54

As I said, the best is yet to come, But

57:56

you're just going to have so much more

57:59

to look forward to.

57:59

as a partnership now. So

58:02

if you ever need anything, we're

58:04

always here. If you need advice or

58:07

whatever it might be, please

58:09

let me know. If you're ever in Southern

58:12

California, come hang out with me and Tommy. We'll

58:14

take you out to dinner to celebrate you too.

58:17

But we can't wait to see where this life takes

58:19

you and to see this next chapter in Austin.

58:21

So enjoy it all. Go have fun,

58:23

you two crazy kids. Thank

58:26

you.

58:29

Oh my gosh. Well, what a

58:31

fun episode. I know that

58:33

you all can listen. You can't

58:35

see the happy couple, but they

58:38

really look so in love.

58:40

They look so happy and just

58:43

really at ease. And there's just this

58:45

beautiful comfort level between them that you

58:47

can just, it's

58:48

coming through the screen here. And so I'm

58:51

so thrilled for them. Please

58:53

send all of your well wishes their way

58:56

and yeah, thanks for tuning in each

58:58

and every week to us on happy

59:01

hour. We obviously couldn't be here without all of our

59:03

listeners. And one last thanks to Zach

59:05

and Katie for joining us today. I know their

59:07

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59:10

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59:12

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59:48

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