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1:48

Welcome to 'Bachelor' I'm Juliet

1:50

Littman. I'm here with Cali

1:53

Curry. Hi, Cali. Hello.

1:56

We're doing an end of year wrap up today.

1:57

We're gonna look back at the 'Bachelor'.

1:59

Look back at our other favorite shows,

2:02

and then look ahead. I'm

2:04

pretty excited. I like end of your content. Like,

2:06

I don't really get tired of people's lists.

2:08

Do you? No. I don't. And I also like

2:10

hearing them because then if there's something that I missed,

2:12

I'm like, awesome show to binge over the holiday.

2:15

Yeah.

2:15

Totally. Although, I

2:18

don't know I'm gonna binge. Well, maybe I'll find out. Maybe you'll

2:20

have some recommendations for me. What does

2:21

your top show that you're like, oh, I missed that?

2:23

I I have I'm gonna have a real boy because white Lotus

2:25

is over. Show show?

2:28

Really anything, I guess. Well, I'd like to

2:30

recommend

2:30

something that not a lot of people watch because you

2:33

watch everything. Okay? But

2:35

there are some shows on Showtime that are

2:37

pretty good. Merrick and Jigolo? Pretty

2:39

good. Yeah. My colleagues watch that.

2:41

Okay. Cool.

2:42

I like that, and I also

2:44

like I will I've been watching it. I don't

2:46

even know what season to know. It's on maybe three

2:48

or four, but City on a hill is also another

2:50

Showtime show. Yeah. Really good.

2:52

Someone

2:53

really famous is in that. Sean Penn or something?

2:55

I'm not good. I'm not actors. Yes.

2:58

But whatever. It's it's not Sean

3:00

Penn. But

3:01

it's someone

3:02

like that. It's someone really famous.

3:05

Okay. Cool. Are you glowing it right

3:07

now? Yeah. I am looking, you know. It's Kevin

3:09

Bacon.

3:11

I fucking love Aldis Hodge.

3:13

Wow. I love him. Did you ever watch leverage

3:16

on TVS?

3:17

No. But Well, he he was in that, and

3:19

I loved him. City on hell is good.

3:21

Okay. Cool. I'll check that out. Actually,

3:23

no, I won't, but I just said that I loved him.

3:25

Those are scripted shows, but not what we're

3:28

covering today, but yeah,

3:30

great shows. Alright.

3:31

So should we start with

3:33

our our highlights from nations here or

3:35

should talk

3:35

about some other shows. I'm kind of feeling talking about some

3:37

other shows because

3:38

we're on the topic already. We're

3:40

gonna do our top five favorite reality shows

3:42

outside of the bachelor from this past

3:44

year. I think you watch more reality

3:46

TV than I do. So I'm, like, excited to hear more

3:48

or less. We do.

3:51

It was really hard to make this list. Why

3:53

even have some honorable mentions? Wow. Let's

3:55

start with your honorable mentions. I'm excited.

3:57

Let's hear it. Okay. Honorable mentions.

3:59

I

4:01

have two. This is maybe a little

4:03

surprise. Joe

4:05

millionaire.

4:06

Oh, wow. That is

4:08

the surprise. Also, you are

4:10

definitely the only person who was not paid

4:12

to watch

4:12

this show, who watched this show. There

4:16

has to be some gel millionaires out there

4:18

that watch and

4:20

it's bad that it was like good

4:22

watching. Like, I felt good afterwards.

4:24

You know? So, like, what's the format?

4:27

They go into a house,

4:29

there's, like, maybe thirty girls so many.

4:31

Sorry. Thirty women living in a house. It's a huge

4:33

house. Really nice house actually. On

4:35

the higher budget end of what we

4:37

see which is -- Okay. -- and cool.

4:39

Interesting.

4:41

Two guys come in.

4:42

One's a millionaire. One's not. They don't

4:44

tell you who's who.

4:45

K. And and then you have to just, like, figure out

4:48

who you wanna do. Do they know that one's a millionaire

4:50

and one's not? They know one's a millionaire and

4:52

they know one's not.

4:53

And all the women date both of them. And then,

4:55

like, as, you know, the season goes on, then it

4:57

kinda gets narrowed down. Like, you kind then you

4:59

if I don't like how the bachelorette was where

5:02

it

5:02

kind of, like, splits up. Mhmm.

5:03

the

5:04

And, like, then, like, one guy has

5:06

their his girls and the other guy has his girls.

5:08

And then at their end, they

5:11

are picked to be, like, the last one standing

5:14

to be in a relationship, and they

5:16

find out if they're the millionaire or not.

5:17

And it's interesting because you'll see these

5:19

women in the interviews and they're like, I think he's

5:21

the millionaire.

5:23

I kind of like that they

5:26

foregrew around money. I feel like this would be

5:28

helpful to many of the bachelorette

5:30

gals that, like, this is the, like, Shanae

5:32

and Victoria and Kate. Like,

5:35

everyone who talked about Does

5:36

he have a career? Does he have enough money?

5:39

This would be great for them. Maybe I

5:41

would watch that actually. Is it coming back again? Do

5:43

you think? Do you know? Well, it it

5:45

it it was around, like, a few years

5:47

ago, and then it went off air, and then they

5:49

brought it back. So I would assume it's

5:51

gonna come back again, because I

5:53

want to I did decently. Who are the

5:55

two guys? Like, just

5:57

randoms? One guy's named Kurt.

5:59

He was, like, the

5:59

non millionaire but also, like, he

6:02

had a decent job. Like, what was

6:04

it? Something in, like,

6:06

construction, but, like, he

6:08

had like, he owned a construction

6:11

company or something like that. So, like, I wanna

6:13

guess that he was, like, he

6:15

was making good money based off

6:17

of, like,

6:18

how he kind of acted. He

6:20

was definitely the more sought

6:22

after one. Interesting. I

6:25

was very confident, had swag,

6:27

which I also think that, like,

6:29

for you to go into a house with a guy that

6:32

does have a lot of money? Sure.

6:34

Like, you they kind of have to find that person

6:36

that was like, yeah, I don't care. I'm still a better

6:38

catch. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And also, like, I

6:40

I'll get there or whatever. Yeah. The

6:42

guy with a lot of money was like,

6:44

Seemed like such a nice guy.

6:47

Wow. Okay. Was he hot? Both

6:49

of them are good looking. Okay.

6:51

And his parents own,

6:54

like, a bunch of farms. Oh,

6:56

interesting. It's a Josh Allen situation.

6:59

So it didn't really like, I

7:01

feel like it would like, the women couldn't really

7:03

pick up that he had money because he'd be

7:05

like, I

7:05

live on a farm and blah blah blah and, like,

7:08

This is what I do, but, like,

7:10

he had in his own farms. He also had,

7:12

like, helicopter, and he was

7:14

worth ten million dollars. Wow. At the

7:16

time, this is before he's inheriting

7:18

everything from his

7:20

parents. So, like, he had a lot of money.

7:22

Wow. Okay. It's

7:24

interesting. It's like long time long

7:26

term family farming families.

7:28

A lot

7:29

of money in that. And then

7:31

he both of them picked women

7:34

And then

7:36

was a non women

7:38

adoption? Well, now

7:40

I was just saying, like, both women ended up with the

7:42

people. Or two people and -- Got it. --

7:44

want the the rich one stayed with his for a

7:46

while. I think they most recently

7:48

broke up. The other one,

7:51

they

7:51

did not last very long.

7:53

well okay.

7:54

They've kind of sold me on the show. I'm sort of

7:56

curious. It's just not like, you know how there's,

7:58

like, reality shows, you're like, you

8:00

know, some of the stuff is a little corny.

8:02

There's a lot of that. Sure. Still interesting.

8:04

I think that we should try to get

8:06

you some Joe millionaire spawncon

8:09

for twenty twenty three. Like, if

8:11

you're already talking about it, I

8:13

hi

8:15

I'm down. Okay.

8:16

What's your other honorable mention?

8:18

Selling

8:18

sunset.

8:19

Nice. Okay. I didn't even narrow

8:22

it

8:22

down to Beverly Hills with OC. Because

8:24

I I enjoyed watching both.

8:26

I

8:26

did too. I kind of forgot about them. I also it

8:29

doesn't seem like there'll be another season of Orange

8:31

County since that hasn't been announced, which,

8:33

like, I'm pretty bummed about. I

8:34

I definitely would like some other season out. Well, the

8:37

only reason why I I would argue with you is because

8:39

they crank them out. Like,

8:41

There's like two or three sound sunset seasons

8:43

a year. And,

8:44

like, every interview Alex Hall gave, she

8:46

was like, well, we'll need a season two to figure that out.

8:48

And there's been no word about it in

8:50

a minute. Yeah. So I don't think it's

8:52

coming back again. I liked

8:53

Orange County a lot. It was like

8:56

kind of a cruel show that broke up

8:58

a marriage, but nevertheless,

9:00

I enjoyed it. I thought

9:01

it was really entertaining and I binged it like

9:04

I don't

9:04

even know in about two days. I thought it was great. Me

9:07

too. I really liked it. I did not like selling

9:09

Sunset this past year though. Like, I just

9:11

got sick of the Merry stuff. It was so

9:13

fake. It was just, like, two contracts from being

9:15

stuff was a lot too. That's why Matt,

9:17

Christine. Not Mary. Oh, Mary Mary's fine.

9:19

I guess. But yeah. I

9:21

agree. I guess, And

9:23

also, you know, Heather basically moved to Orange County. She

9:25

didn't even work in LAR

9:28

Yeah. Yeah. It was just it was just too fake,

9:30

but I mean, selling

9:32

sunset next season. It's kinda half fucking

9:35

Brie. What's her face? Who dated Johnny Mansell?

9:37

I think we have a kid together. They have a kid

9:39

together. Yeah. Si. Yeah. No. No. No. No. She was a

9:41

kid with Mckinnon. Oh,

9:43

great. Which is even better, I think.

9:45

Yeah. I think

9:45

my name is, like, Brie, Chahisi or something

9:47

like that. I'm gonna

9:48

Google it while we chat. Thought it

9:50

was pronounced thigh. Oh, I have

9:52

no idea. You're probably right. It's

9:54

I think it's t c. It's TIESITC

9:58

Posey. Yeah. Something like that.

9:59

Got it. Yeah. I know about her as having

10:02

dated Johnny Menzel. But

10:03

she's on

10:04

the next season. And, I mean No.

10:07

No. Not dated. She's married to him. I'm

10:09

pretty sure. I think that's right. I

10:11

mean -- Yeah. -- which is nuts.

10:13

Yeah.

10:13

She was married she was married to Johnny Mansell for

10:15

three years. Yeah. I got divorced and then

10:17

had Nickett. It's child. One of

10:19

eleven. That's a that's a running number. We're

10:21

not really sure. It's between ten and fourteen. It's

10:23

true. It's eleven at eleven. Jay,

10:26

I can't say I'm excited about

10:28

that. Like, I don't really have an interest in watching

10:30

Brie to say. I I do.

10:32

You do who? Have

10:32

you met her? No.

10:34

I

10:35

have no interest. But will I be

10:37

watching? Yeah. Of course. Obviously. Okay. Great.

10:39

That's all I matters. Alright.

10:43

Let's

10:43

get into our top fives. My number five,

10:46

you're gonna, like, really make fun of me,

10:48

but I was thinking about, like, what would I

10:50

actually recommend people to watch?

10:52

And at the bottom of my list but still

10:54

on the list. Storage Georgina on

10:56

Netflix. Oh my god. I

10:58

forgot all about that. Show.

11:01

So Georgina is Ronaldo's girlfriend

11:04

and the mother of one of his children.

11:06

Georgina, it's just a total man of

11:08

the project. It's a total vanity project.

11:11

Ronaldo's weirdly in it. Yeah.

11:12

It looks really weird. It's a commercial

11:15

for the two of them,

11:15

but I don't know, like, I've just been loving

11:17

the world cup. I'm really into Formula One.

11:19

I've really, really enjoyed the world

11:22

of international sports and European

11:24

sports.

11:24

And so this is this is like international sports

11:26

adjacent. enjoyed

11:27

it.

11:28

Didn't something else happen

11:30

with them

11:31

recently? Yeah. Like,

11:32

wasn't there, like, another kid? I think she

11:34

had a miscarriage,

11:35

actually. Okay.

11:36

Yeah. There's something that happened. Yeah. That

11:38

makes sense. I believe she had a miscarriage. And then, of

11:40

course, he's currently embroiled in drama,

11:43

doesn't have a club team, was bench by

11:45

Portugal than they lost. No shortage of

11:47

drama. I wouldn't

11:48

say you get a lot of that

11:49

drama and so at Georgina, but it's such like

11:51

a wild look into

11:53

how you know, a celebrity wants

11:55

to craft their image. And what he'll do for his

11:57

girlfriend and the mother's children

11:59

too, because

11:59

remember she posted

12:00

on IG about it too. Mhmm.

12:02

I think it's a great watch. Also, you can

12:05

either watch subtitles or dubbed

12:07

I

12:07

don't know. It's silly. It's it's what

12:09

I'm looking for in my reality shows these days. Which is,

12:11

like, an actual which is to look into, like,

12:13

actually, like, rich

12:15

people's lives. Like, like,

12:17

emphasis on rich.

12:19

I mean, that's like another

12:21

that's like that. It's another level. Yeah.

12:23

Yeah. Yeah. It's not rich. That's like

12:25

top two percent also. It's a

12:27

different type of rich where, like,

12:30

obviously,

12:30

there's, like, the bill gates, the Jeff Bezos, all

12:32

those people, whatever. But, like,

12:35

there's

12:35

only I wonder what the percentage is. It has to

12:37

be less than one percent. Less

12:39

than one percent of athletes that

12:41

make the

12:42

amount of money he makes so

12:45

quickly that to go from zero

12:47

to a billion -- Yeah. --

12:48

in, like, two years. Not two years. But you know what

12:51

I'm saying? I mean, he's one of the most famous people

12:53

in the world, so it's

12:54

pretty wild. For sure. Also, there's an

12:57

episode where they talk about Statue.

12:59

Yeah. Great

13:01

watch. It's a great

13:03

watch. It's on Netflix. Check it

13:05

out. Alright, Kolly. Number

13:07

five on your list. Number

13:09

five on

13:10

my list is the only one

13:12

from the doctor

13:13

franchise that made the list sadly.

13:15

But it was

13:16

'Bachelor' Paradise. Okay. You

13:18

loved

13:18

it. You loved it. You loved it. That's

13:19

your mind. I also when I

13:22

was making this list because obviously I

13:24

had and I was back and forth on a lot of

13:26

it. I thought

13:27

to myself, am I

13:29

giving this more credit because of the 'Bachelor'

13:32

and

13:32

bachelorette that it came

13:34

-- That was bad. -- came before it.

13:36

Right.

13:36

And I think it was just so

13:38

much better than those two that it made me feel

13:40

better about it all. Well, we'll get back to this.

13:42

Actually, the bachelor was good. I think, like, it's

13:44

been a long. It's been like a year, so we kind

13:46

of forget. But, actually, the bachelor good. There was

13:48

some really good drama at the end, a great

13:50

finale. Mhmm. So I

13:52

don't know. I

13:53

like I I thought it was a good season with the

13:55

bachelor, but the bachelor at was terrible. That mean,

13:57

like, nothing happened, basically. It was just, like,

13:59

crying of gabby and Rachel and, like, it was

14:02

terrible. And no one found love. No

14:04

one found love. Everyone's without love. It's a

14:06

great point. Alright.

14:08

Number four on my list.

14:10

The ultimatum. Also,

14:14

on Netflix, I have to save also on

14:16

my leg. Very Netflix heavy.

14:18

Word you have it. A

14:19

four. Great. We

14:21

we're aligned. Number four of the

14:23

ultimatum. Like, I found myself

14:25

thinking, I,

14:27

like, wonder what everyone's too. Like, how

14:29

are they all doing? I'm sure I could find out kind of

14:31

on social media, but

14:33

I really liked watching it a lot

14:35

more than I expected. It was way better

14:37

than I expected. And also,

14:39

in some ways,

14:39

it was like one of

14:41

the more progressive shows. And I I'm

14:43

very aware of this when I watched the challenge because

14:45

the challenge surprisingly is so

14:47

much more progressive than the bachelor? Not

14:49

surprising. I guess

14:50

what I think is surprising about it is that I I

14:52

wouldn't consider MTV

14:54

and the challenge, a place that you would find

14:56

that. It's not surprising that something is more progressed than

14:58

the bachelor, but just the fact that it's the

15:00

challenge. What's surprising? Right. For

15:02

me,

15:02

it's not surprising because it comes from

15:04

the real world, which is also way

15:07

before it's time. Yeah. That's a

15:09

good point. It's

15:09

the challenge does not

15:12

traffic in archetypes in the same way,

15:14

like in stereotypes. It has its

15:16

own archetypes, but it doesn't,

15:18

like, adhere to the ones outside

15:20

of the show. You

15:21

know what I mean? Like, they have, like, the same character

15:23

roles or whatever, but you just

15:25

get a different you just get way more type different

15:27

types of people. And different types of spelling of

15:29

names. Jack with two k's. I'll never forget

15:31

it. Yeah. Also,

15:33

at the it's kind of just

15:35

like you can tell when they're, like, pushing their

15:37

boundaries and I'm, like, Yeah. We're still on first

15:39

base here. I know.

15:40

Anyway,

15:43

I really

15:44

like that with the ultimatum. The ultimatum was a

15:46

weird show. Like, I don't even know if they could do it

15:48

again, but I I feel you captured a

15:50

moment in time with the reality TV.

15:52

That I really like. Sounds like a transitional show. It's

15:54

like it's like the training bras of reality TV

15:56

where it's like you're going from one era to

15:59

another.

15:59

The idea of it I

16:02

think was, like, whoever came up

16:04

with this and thought that he could get people to do this.

16:06

I'm, like, if my bad show was pitched to me,

16:08

I'd be, like, no

16:09

couple is going to do this. And

16:12

they were like, there's a lot of people that

16:14

will do this. And

16:15

they found them and they was

16:18

great.

16:18

Yeah. I I also think that there's like

16:21

something to be said for just

16:23

coming out of COVID, I feel like people were

16:25

willing to do stuff. And maybe they were in

16:27

Texas anyway. But, like, it was

16:29

it was kind of like a

16:31

also a, like, a COVID

16:32

transition show. Like, COVID's kind

16:34

of over moving on. Well,

16:36

China Censation Island has been on for a

16:39

while, and it's kind

16:40

of similar similar situation.

16:43

Okay. Well, It's

16:45

just something

16:47

something to to watch if

16:49

you have it, and I I enjoyed it.

16:52

Yeah. Alright. What do you have at number three?

16:54

Number three. Oh, we have a tie.

16:57

Oh, wow.

16:59

Syesta Key because it's kind of like an o

17:01

g show that I watch. Okay. And

17:04

and

17:05

below deck. All

17:07

below decks, main below deck. I

17:09

thought about that. And

17:12

I

17:12

just love Blodak. Me too. I went

17:14

back and looked, I was like, wait, which seasons

17:17

were on? And

17:20

I think the

17:23

LoJack Med is my

17:24

no. Yeah. Med. Yeah.

17:26

Med is my favorite too. Yeah. I think it's my

17:28

favorite. But,

17:28

like, sailing

17:29

out was great. Sail out?

17:32

Okay. Sail out

17:32

is so good. The Gary and Daisy dynamic is

17:35

unbeatable. There's nothing there's nothing that

17:37

exists, Joe. And then and then Colin, is

17:39

definitely the hottest man on Bravo. There's

17:41

no competition. Literally

17:42

not. I don't have to really think about that,

17:44

but he's up there. I mean, if no

17:45

one else comes to mind, it's

17:47

not like there's like a major obvious other

17:49

one. I just he's so

17:52

chill. I don't know. I just he's a man of the

17:54

sea, but sailing out is great

17:56

because of Gary and Daisy and,

17:58

like, also the

17:58

fact that the the boat is so small and

17:59

kind of janky. You're just like, oh, it's

18:02

less. Why is anyone paying for this? You know,

18:04

it's a little dirtier too. Yes.

18:06

Definitely

18:07

like a grimier experience. I think I might

18:09

prefer that experience, but I would never go on

18:11

either of these because I get seasick, so whatever.

18:14

I would've got a yacht, but it to be a big one. Can we

18:16

talk about Med

18:16

for a second? Because this season of Med in

18:19

twenty

18:19

twenty two,

18:21

Natasha is one of the weirdest people I've

18:23

ever seen on television. Like,

18:27

so, like, why did she wear ball

18:29

gowns every night out in Malta?

18:31

Like, what what's going on with that. Like, she is just

18:33

How about your first concern? There

18:35

was so many things that was

18:38

Also,

18:38

like, I guess they have to turn over their text messages,

18:40

but, like, I felt

18:42

for her. I was like, these are really cringe. I

18:44

hope that, like, looking back, she's like, what was

18:47

I thinking? I also would love to hear this.

18:49

She deserves better. She

18:51

definitely deserves better. I hope she can

18:53

find, like, inner peace just for herself. She

18:55

definitely needs to. I also hope Dave can get

18:57

his drinking and anger under

18:59

control. Mhmm. But,

19:00

like,

19:01

like it wasn't it

19:02

wasn't not the best season, but I

19:04

still loved it. I don't Like, Bullotec is just a consistently

19:07

great show. There's just nothing else there's

19:09

no other nothing else to be said

19:11

other than it's great.

19:13

Your third? Yes. My third is Love is

19:15

Blind Season two. I feel like Love is Blind

19:17

Season two. Just like gave

19:18

us a lot. That was the Shane season,

19:20

the Shake season. Was

19:22

this year? Yes. It was in,

19:25

like, February, March, I believe.

19:27

And it just, like,

19:29

provided a lot it continues to give. Those

19:31

people, like, became famous or and

19:33

I I still see them around on the other

19:35

thing. Same. And gave

19:37

us a lot of talking points. Shane

19:39

is a real old school

19:42

reality character to me and that it seems like he's on

19:44

a ton of drugs. I feel like you don't get that as

19:46

much these days. I'm not saying he is. I'm just

19:48

saying it seems like it.

19:50

Yeah. I wish to do that. Like a

19:52

great real

19:52

world cast member. Absolutely.

19:55

Huck. Do

19:55

you remember him? Course,

19:57

he's iconic. Like, literally

19:59

an

19:59

icon. Yeah. Like, that could have been

20:02

Shane. Yes.

20:03

And then Shane would have

20:04

been awesome on the the early seasons of the challenge

20:07

when it was, like, more lower

20:08

end and more wild. Would have been

20:10

great. Especially since, like, He's

20:12

in shape. Yeah. Very good shape.

20:14

And I think he's like slimmed down. I

20:16

will say, I know there is a challenge

20:18

style show coming from.

20:20

Netflix next year. So Do you think

20:23

like, that sounds amazing. And

20:24

let me let me add that to what I'm

20:26

looking forward to.

20:29

Do you think, like, how many people are at home

20:31

watching the

20:32

challenge? Like, I could have these even giant

20:35

bananas? Probably a

20:37

lot. However, I

20:39

just caught up on the on the

20:41

challenge. When bananas hit his fortieth birthday

20:43

and, like, Nani made the

20:45

sign of, like, all of his

20:47

wins and like, whatever. It's

20:49

just like, that's like

20:50

consistent. That's like a LeBron like

20:53

stretch of excellence. I mean Oh, no. No. No.

20:55

For sure. But I'm like, how like,

20:58

Obviously,

20:58

his prototyping was huge in

21:00

his success. Mhmm. He's like

21:02

it's

21:02

so much smarter than he gets credit for. Yeah. So I

21:05

think

21:05

that's probably the underrated

21:07

parks. I think, like, if you're a guy at home, it

21:09

probably, like, could probably

21:11

beat him in

21:12

most things, which is probably true for a lot of

21:14

men at home. But, like,

21:16

could you get people talk follow you? Because that's

21:18

essentially what he did. Everyone just followed

21:20

them. Yeah. Absolutely. I

21:22

don't know. Jill. Shane couldn't do

21:24

it. That's for sure. Yeah. I

21:26

don't know who's following him.

21:28

You know, the challenge is

21:30

just spoiler alert is not on my list, but it's

21:32

just a consistent part of my life. Like,

21:34

I Well, I even put

21:37

the

21:37

challenge or survivor

21:40

on my list because they're not done

21:42

yet. Oh, interesting.

21:43

Like, they're just still ongoing. Yeah. So

21:45

I'm like, they might make well this next year.

21:48

Okay. Well,

21:48

we'll check-in with you in January to see how you're

21:50

feeling. Take your temperature. Don't

21:53

know. It's just, like, the challenge in survivor are, like, such consistent.

21:56

My my quibbles survivor

21:58

this season though is, like, it's too many actually,

21:59

this whole, like, last two years since they did, like, of

22:02

reboot starting with forty one.

22:04

It's just, like, too much emotion. I'm

22:06

just, like I know how much shit. But

22:08

that's the season. Last

22:11

episode was great. Yes, it was

22:12

because it was not a sob story about how

22:14

someone's been watching survivor their whole life and means

22:16

so much of them to win an immunity challenge.

22:19

Someone still cried and it was still great. I

22:21

know. But I that's, like, I want crying

22:23

over strategy in the game that you're playing today, not

22:25

the memories you have from yesterday. So

22:29

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22:30

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22:33

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23:43

Okay. What

23:43

do you have at number 322

23:46

Sorry. Who do you have at number two?

23:49

This

23:49

was my number one until I completely blacked

23:51

out and forgot something.

23:53

Big brother.

23:54

So Oh my god.

23:56

I knew you were gonna say that.

23:58

I

23:58

I don't watch it. I need to.

23:59

So do you know what my number one is?

24:02

Your number

24:02

one. No, I don't.

24:04

i don't I

24:06

got it, Julia. I thought for sure. If you

24:08

did number two, I was like, she,

24:09

for sure, knows number

24:11

one.

24:12

F boy Island? Are you

24:14

kidding me? It's not my

24:16

list. I don't know. What's number one?

24:18

Julia, I'm giving

24:20

you one more chance. The

24:23

real house I'm gonna know. This. What

24:25

is

24:25

it?

24:27

Love

24:27

Island. Oh.

24:30

That's embarrassing for me. Right? How did I

24:33

forget? Alright. It's

24:35

soon. Davy Day still together. They

24:37

are I

24:37

can see a Dominator are still together. And

24:41

Tasha and Andrew are still together.

24:44

Oh, India

24:45

and Dommi are still together. Wow. He

24:47

knows him. Dommi. He

24:49

was cute. I need a really

24:51

long flight somewhere.

24:52

To watch Love Island. Like, I

24:55

need I need to go to Australia just to stay

24:56

up the whole time watching Love Island while the

24:58

plane. Like, and So supposedly,

25:01

the vial in Australia is

25:03

currently on, and

25:05

it's supposed to be

25:06

really good.

25:08

Well, I

25:10

it's just such a big commitment. It's very hard for

25:12

me to to to to divert.

25:15

So maybe that's a goal for next year.

25:17

Topping up, myless. Number two is blooddock selling out

25:19

season three. Eagle one is bad. It's

25:21

so good. I love it. And number

25:23

one, Drive to

25:25

Survive. one show. Oh, gosh.

25:27

I'm sorry. It's just an excellent

25:29

TV show that I would say changed my life

25:31

because now I love Formula One.

25:33

And the best weekend I had in twenty twenty two

25:35

was going to the Prix in Mexico City. So,

25:38

like, I don't know. I owe a lot

25:40

of my my current happiness to drive

25:42

to survive. So how I put number one?

25:44

Okay. I mean,

25:45

it's just something that way I think

25:48

of. I know. It's

25:48

more of a good docu series, but it's a but

25:50

the reason why I so good

25:53

is because it's a reality show.

25:53

It's like it's like housewives, but instead of the housewives,

25:56

you have these like grown

25:58

men who run these teams.

25:59

It's great. It's

26:01

like the real GMs

26:03

of Europe. That's what I that's

26:05

how I put it. J

26:06

and R producers said she's pissed, we didn't pick Potomac,

26:08

which is fair, but the season's

26:10

a little tough. No.

26:14

Potomac, the last couple of episodes have been great, this

26:16

past episode wasn't awesome, but the time before that, the

26:18

last two before that were awesome. The Miami

26:20

fight changed my life as well.

26:22

Yeah.

26:22

It was awesome. But it's not over

26:24

yet. So I have pictures that are,

26:26

like,

26:26

currently

26:28

today padding. We'll

26:29

come back to it. But I will say, like, I did

26:31

really struggle with summer house. I love

26:33

summer house. I love southern charm.

26:36

But, like, there's,

26:37

you know, there's just a lot of content out there

26:39

and a lot of competition, Braava.

26:41

It's true. I'm just

26:42

looking at Candice's

26:44

Twitter

26:44

right now because last

26:45

night she tweeted,

26:47

quote, and

26:48

what the hell is White Lotus?

26:50

Oh, I saw that. So

26:54

funny. By the way, I have not come

26:56

to love Candice. With our producer, I have

26:58

not come

26:58

to love Candice, but I did

27:00

think that was funny. And

27:02

Jade, our producer who is a

27:04

potomac fan, also has

27:06

not watched white lotus, so maybe there's something

27:09

there. Well,

27:09

maybe they can watch it together. Also, I really

27:11

like the song and secure by

27:13

by Candice featuring Trina. Check it out on Slack.

27:15

Oh my god. I thought you were gonna say it. I really like

27:17

that. I

27:20

love it.

27:23

And I love

27:24

that videos on TikTok

27:26

that have that playing, like, the

27:28

techno version because it was, like, more techno y

27:30

this year. And it really is just like a

27:33

goodbye. It really is.

27:35

And Sisley's awesome. I love The White

27:37

Lotus. Also for everyone listening to

27:39

this, if they have not Maybe didn't even

27:41

bite notice. That was the call that I

27:43

just did.

27:46

Great

27:48

stuff. Alright.

27:50

Let's talk bachelor. Let's talk our we're gonna

27:52

do our top five moments in bachelor nation this

27:54

year. I'm gonna be honest, my memory

27:57

failed me. A

27:59

little a

27:59

little hard, but there were some highlights that I

28:02

wanted to recall. Do you have any honorable

28:04

mentions? No.

28:06

I barely got I barely got through

28:09

this. Okay. Well, I will start

28:11

at number five, which is giving flowers where

28:13

they are due. It is to Jesse

28:15

speaking French. It is the most

28:17

memorable thing that happened

28:19

during the bachelorette by far. I

28:21

underestimated him. I didn't give him

28:23

enough credit. I was like, oh, I just or maybe

28:25

I over made it happen. Whatever it was, I had

28:27

the wrong read. The man speaks French. Someone

28:29

DM me to say

28:29

they heard him ordering in French in Saint Bart's recently,

28:31

which was also

28:32

Glad to hear he's making enough money

28:34

to

28:34

vacation in Saint Bart's. Not sure he's living a great life. Not

28:36

everyone can. I couldn't afford

28:38

it. And so,

28:39

you know, Jesse, this was his first

28:41

full year at the helm of this

28:44

'Bachelor' and I think he's done as good a job

28:46

as possible after filming coming in for someone

28:48

who was gone for who's who's

28:50

doing it for twenty plus season.

28:53

So Jesse, we

28:53

see you, we love you, and I hope

28:55

to meet you one day in your

28:56

beautiful green eyes. That's my number. And I have

28:58

a big fan here.

29:02

That's so crazy. Yeah.

29:04

I am. And that's actually a good one. I wish I would have it

29:06

on my list because I'm looking at my list now. We have

29:08

four. So Okay. Great. So let's go

29:10

straight to number

29:11

four.

29:13

Okay. So this is what I

29:16

wrote, and

29:16

it's not something that

29:18

I particularly

29:19

liked, but I thought

29:22

I

29:22

was entertaining. K. And all

29:24

I wrote

29:24

was the Greg of it all. Mhmm.

29:27

Okay. And I think from

29:29

the roller coaster I

29:31

went on with Greg this year,

29:35

couldn't have been

29:35

at a higher peak. His

29:39

TikTok, he was dating

29:40

some girl that was like, he kinda hit and

29:42

it was like a mom. She was just mad.

29:45

Mhmm. Yeah. Like,

29:47

I

29:47

was just fully tuned

29:50

in to Greg. I

29:52

knew I

29:53

kind of flushed out on the toilet,

29:55

but I

29:57

still appreciate the ride.

29:59

And

29:59

I

29:59

did think that the finale like,

30:02

his portion of

30:03

the about finale is probably what like,

30:05

probably the

30:05

most. Yeah. Most interesting.

30:07

Most note were interesting. Yeah.

30:09

He provided under training.

30:11

Yeah. And, like,

30:11

the whole Johnny of it off. Like, Johnny in

30:13

Victoria, like, that whole thing was caused

30:15

because because of him. So, yeah, overall,

30:17

like, God,

30:18

he had a great presence. Also, like,

30:20

like, his

30:21

little friend group he's in, like, he

30:23

was just a huge member of

30:26

Baxter Nation this year. I

30:27

think what we have to contend with as we move

30:30

forward with Greg in our consciousness is

30:32

that ultimately, Greg is a wife

30:34

guy. Greg is really into

30:36

his girlfriend. And he

30:39

posted, like, about the ring

30:41

that Victoria got in that tracks his sleep.

30:43

It's like a fitbit, but you wear it on

30:46

your your index finger. And That

30:48

sounds that that seems uncomfortable. I think

30:50

the finger is pretty fat.

30:52

You gotta check-in with Greg about that. I don't know what to tell you.

30:55

But Greg's a wife guy now. And I

30:57

think the fund the fund Greg of

30:59

Andrews Instagram is

31:01

gone. And that's okay. People evolve

31:03

and it happens to the best of

31:05

them. But I just think we have to

31:07

move forward with this knowledge. He

31:09

did, like, try to be funny to

31:12

talk with Victoria.

31:14

How to go?

31:17

It was okay. It was okay. It's gonna

31:19

have to grow on me, but I definitely

31:21

didn't laugh. That's for sure. Well,

31:23

I'm not sure I'm not sure she's

31:25

like met for I think she seems like a fun hang. I

31:27

think she's like the type of person who would be great to

31:29

hang out with at a bar or a party and like I don't know if

31:31

I really wanna spend time with her on like social

31:34

media. Yeah. Also,

31:36

I was having this conversation with my friend

31:38

last night. Like,

31:39

I really think that

31:42

there's

31:42

something to being funny. Like,

31:44

you're usually a person out, like a certain type of

31:46

personality if you're a funny person.

31:48

Mhmm. And I like to be

31:50

around funny people. And sometimes,

31:52

People

31:53

don't like that. You know

31:54

what I mean? Mhmm. Sometimes

31:56

people think funny people are annoying or

31:58

obnoxious or whatever. Or

31:59

loud usually or talk too much

32:02

usually? That's fine. I like those

32:04

people. I

32:05

think I like funny

32:07

people too. I mean, I like I like to have jokes. So

32:10

maybe that's why we get

32:11

You think that some people just don't enjoy

32:14

laughing. I think some

32:15

people just, like, take stuff too seriously,

32:17

and so they can't see the humor.

32:19

Yeah. But, like, after a good laugh, aren't

32:21

you just, like, Ugh. Ugh. Of course,

32:24

it's not. Also, like, it's a cliche flavor. A

32:26

great laugh, like,

32:28

stomach hurting, crime

32:31

laughing, or a great

32:33

meal. I think a great laugh, personally.

32:35

Yeah. I

32:36

wasn't

32:37

sure what the alternative was gonna

32:40

be. It's close for me because that's

32:42

how my child loves food. I

32:44

love food, but

32:45

I would say like a great meal

32:47

that I'm like stuffed at the end.

32:49

I usually like

32:50

the discomfort tends to overshadow the great food. So

32:52

at least with the do you think

32:54

my stomach hurts laugh, you always have

32:57

the joke. And I would say, like, with my closest friend

32:59

that, like, I cherish

33:01

those moments. So It's easy, but it

33:03

kinda feels like you're on a high

33:05

afterwards. Yeah. It's a great feeling. Yeah. Wow.

33:07

That was the most positive thing we've probably said

33:09

all year. Okay. Number

33:13

four for me. It happened

33:14

before plate and season even began, but,

33:17

wonderfully, it was on camera. Sally

33:19

dumpy Clayton

33:20

before he even got to know her,

33:22

and him just staring at her being

33:25

so confused. I absolutely loved it.

33:27

That was probably my that was definitely

33:29

Sally's Peak, and maybe the peak of

33:31

Clayton season,

33:31

at least it's up

33:32

there. So that and I appreciated

33:34

it. Sally gave us a lot of humor, so thanks to

33:37

Sally. My number two is from Clayton

33:39

season. So Oh, okay. Great. My number

33:41

my number one's from

33:43

Clayton's Susan as well. Alright. What do you have at

33:45

three?

33:45

Gavi reintroducing yourselves to

33:48

Logan. Even just

33:50

saying it makes me laugh. Gabby is

33:52

really funny. You know, Gabby loves

33:54

me. One

33:55

hundred percent. I think that's why I loved her

33:57

so much. And, unfortunately, her

33:59

season was a little torpedoed.

34:02

But

34:02

yeah. No. I just like because

34:05

I have to think like, part of me thinks she did

34:07

it on purpose. Because she is that type of person. And then part

34:09

of me thinks, like, she's

34:10

so aloof, but she didn't realize she

34:12

was doing it. Both ways are

34:14

funny to me. Because, like, if you're Logan,

34:17

you're like, Yeah. I mean, I was with you

34:19

two weeks ago, and we've kissed, and

34:21

you can't give her

34:23

a hug.

34:24

I have this

34:26

complex. People don't remember me. And it's because I remember everyone. Like,

34:28

I'm like I have like a stalker memory. It's a

34:30

social liability. And so as a result,

34:33

because I'm so conscious about how much I remember

34:36

people, I overcompensate by

34:38

thinking no one remembers me. So, like,

34:40

reintroduced myself all the

34:42

time. And I think I I could, like, imagine

34:44

myself doing that with even someone I, like, made out

34:46

with. Being, like, oh, hey. Like,

34:48

you can't really like, a lot of college girls

34:50

would do that too. Oh, for

34:52

sure. Are you Kimberly?

34:55

I think I'm closer

34:56

to Kimberly than anyone else on that show.

34:58

Pretty big nerd.

35:00

Mostly the

35:01

podcast kind of very, very

35:04

specific characters. So -- Yeah. -- let's

35:06

say much. I don't know if I'm really any of

35:08

that, but I would say she's probably the closest. Anyway, that is that was a really funny moment, and Gabby's

35:10

is just so funny. Yeah.

35:13

She's an

35:13

enigma. She's another person who, like, I really like

35:15

because she defies a lot of stereotypes. And that's

35:18

ultimately, like, what I

35:18

enjoy on reality shows these days. I also

35:21

appreciate that,

35:21

like, her social media is kind of the

35:23

exact same. Yeah. And

35:26

she I think and

35:28

I don't know this obviously, but, like, I

35:30

have to

35:30

imagine it has to be so

35:34

hard to

35:35

continue to be yourself after all

35:37

of this? Yeah. It

35:38

sounds like it'd be perfect. And,

35:40

like, that's everything. Yeah. Yeah. And

35:43

we saw this with, like, Nathan Rachel and, like, we don't know, obviously, this is coming

35:45

from Nate's side of it. But even from the outside looking

35:47

in, we couldn't have been bigger

35:49

Michelle fans. We're obsessed. Wait.

35:52

I said, Nate, Rachel. Nate, Michelle. Sorry. We obsessed with Michelle. I

35:55

thought she

35:55

handled everything perfectly. Like, had nothing

35:57

negative to say. And

35:59

not that I

35:59

anything negative to say, but when I say I

36:02

have this like, she seems

36:03

like a completely different person now

36:05

than before.

36:06

before the Yeah. Which

36:08

I can understand. I'm sure there's, like, so many levels to,

36:10

like, how that can happen and, like,

36:11

why that happened? And I think it's,

36:13

like, a really No.

36:15

I don't think

36:16

it's, like, an easy torch to

36:17

carry, actually being, like, one of the only

36:19

black, Dash threats,

36:20

whatever whatever. But

36:22

I do think it is refreshing to see

36:24

someone like Gabby who, like, when

36:27

on the bachelor

36:28

couldn't

36:29

have gone worse? Then

36:31

put on the bachelorette probably couldn't have

36:33

gone worse. It goes

36:36

on dancing with

36:37

the stars. It's still like

36:39

the exact same person gets places second, which

36:41

is like amazing. Yeah.

36:44

Amazing. And, like, she

36:45

still did it seemed like she's the

36:47

exact same person that we

36:49

met. At the very beginning of this. Yeah. I I

36:51

think

36:51

Michelle seems to have like dialed back

36:53

the personality, which is really sad, whereas to

36:55

your point, Gabby is not.

36:57

Like, Gabby is still just Gabby.

36:59

And I'm sure Michelle still has the personality, but, like,

37:01

obviously, she's just been through a lot. It probably makes it harder

37:03

to, like, put herself out there.

37:06

And

37:06

Gab is not doing that, so it's nice.

37:08

It's

37:08

kind of like the Meghan Markle situation where

37:10

it

37:10

seems like Michelle is trying to

37:12

do like what she thinks she's supposed to do and make

37:14

sure she's saying the right things and like,

37:17

posting things that are trending and, like, you

37:19

know, being perfect, which is

37:22

impossible for anyone.

37:23

Completely, completely

37:26

impossible. Yeah. Okay. Let's move on. Number three for

37:28

me, Jason. Tennis

37:29

Jason wearing his Moses, his

37:32

Jewish

37:32

girl necklaces, so just

37:35

that you for Jewish representation on the

37:37

bachelor. I I had to mention it even though I'm mad

37:39

at Jason because he will not do

37:41

this podcast. I don't know why.

37:44

So it seems like Jason wants to be a part of the

37:46

fluctuation anymore. And I

37:46

like that. My side makes you

37:48

like him even more. Yeah. I also thought

37:51

the moment where Jason was just like, yeah, I thought about it. And

37:53

I yeah. I don't like you. I got

37:55

I'm I'm sure Yeah. I know.

37:58

Done here. That wasn't

37:59

that wasn't a fun

38:02

moment. That's funny. We've never

38:04

seen that before. Yeah.

38:06

It was funny. I I

38:08

enjoy that. What do you have at number two? Number two

38:10

was

38:12

I just

38:12

thought this was

38:13

so absurd.

38:16

And watching it was

38:16

kind of like, wait, what? When

38:19

Clayton

38:20

told both Gabby

38:23

and Rachel together, that

38:24

he slept with both of them, but he still wanted

38:27

to continue. Like, he's offering

38:29

all three

38:29

of them. No.

38:33

You can sleep with Susie. Oh, you're right. You're right. He's he's alright. Susie's

38:35

gone and he's left the two of them. Yeah. But he and

38:37

that he also

38:39

told Susie Hi,

38:41

comedy. But but Susie but he still wants

38:43

to continue. Like, all

38:44

of it was just like,

38:49

how did you think this was the right

38:51

way to go about this? They were crying like

38:53

the Titanic was sinking and they were on

38:55

it. It was like so funny. I can

38:57

only imagine. Did daddy cry like that?

38:59

Not really. Right? Rachel was,

39:02

like, oddest. cried,

39:04

but Rachel was the one who was sobbing on the

39:06

stairs. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. But I

39:08

know Gabby was more, like,

39:10

scariest about

39:12

the situation. Just

39:12

piggyback. Quickly, I'm just gonna say, we've talked about this ad nauseam, so we don't need

39:14

to

39:14

get into it. Number two for me was the day that Rodney

39:17

left the beach. I just so No.

39:19

Is that number one

39:22

for you? Yes. Well

39:22

But numb number one for me is Gabby telling

39:25

off Clayton. I loved it's

39:27

related to what you

39:30

said. Like, I loved when he was holiday in. Yeah. The holiday

39:32

in in Iceland. She just was,

39:34

like, so angry, but,

39:36

like, so together

39:38

and poise. I loved it. And

39:40

so obviously, Cali, we're on the same

39:42

wavelength. The top moments of this

39:44

year were

39:46

people

39:46

losing their shit over either Rodney

39:48

or Clayton. And it was great

39:50

in both cases. And also quite different.

39:54

The

39:54

reason why Rodny got one and claimed

39:56

about

39:56

two was because Rodny

39:58

had so many

39:59

layers to this. Like, then

40:02

leaving the

40:04

beach absolute

40:04

chaos. But

40:08

also, it was chaotic

40:10

because

40:10

the amount of love

40:13

for him unprecedented? Yeah.

40:14

It Yeah. We've never

40:16

seen anything like it before. It was

40:19

nothing real. And

40:20

i'm I know talked

40:22

about this again, like,

40:24

it's way too much.

40:26

oh Now,

40:29

'Bachelor' producers. Watched

40:31

all of this and still did not

40:33

pick him for bachelor

40:34

is, like, mystery of

40:37

because my number

40:38

number one mystery

40:40

of

40:40

twenty twenty two is that. I don't

40:42

think it's inexplicable. I I don't get it

40:45

either. I really I'm dreading, Zach. I'm dreading

40:48

a date with toast every week. I mean, no

40:50

thank you.

40:53

Toast, lightly toasted no

40:56

butter. God. It's like worst case

40:58

scenario. And maybe, like,

41:00

grand toast. Yeah.

41:01

It's like dailed bread, lightly

41:03

toasted, no butter, no jelly. No.

41:05

What

41:05

is that? Have you seen that

41:07

TikTok or that, like, does all her

41:09

snacks, Danielle? No.

41:10

Oh my

41:11

god. Let's check it

41:12

out. Sounds sounds like I'm gonna send you

41:14

some

41:15

oh my gosh. Oh my god. Wait. This

41:17

is such a good episode. Day

41:20

now has these snacks that are,

41:22

like, the craziest snacks

41:24

ever kind of, like, you would

41:25

never think to be like, oh, this is snack that

41:27

I'm gonna have.

41:30

And I want

41:30

all of them. Like, what? Can

41:31

you just give me one example? Yeah. And

41:34

you're gonna

41:34

be like, what the fuck? She got

41:36

she gets these crackers called craze,

41:38

crackers. Okay. And she puts

41:41

a smoked muscle

41:43

in a

41:44

can

41:46

smoked

41:47

muscle and olive oil that you get it like whole foods with

41:49

a little creme fresh, a

41:51

little momofuku chili

41:54

oil, and top

41:56

it with caviar. Looks amazing.

41:58

And fucking fancy. All

42:00

of her snacks

42:01

are fancy. All of her

42:03

snacks are fancy. Okay. But they're all

42:05

I think I should probably know more because I

42:07

watch an enormous amount of her

42:09

videos. But I think i

42:11

think her

42:12

family has some sort of, like, old

42:14

knowledge of

42:15

caviar. Like, she talks about every time

42:17

she uses caviar, she talks about

42:19

time, the brand where it's from -- Oh. -- like, what

42:21

the, like, the notes in it are.

42:24

Wow. So she is, like, a wine person, but

42:26

for caviar. Kind of.

42:27

Yeah. Alright. I

42:29

gotta check out. Her snacks

42:31

are, like, all over

42:33

the

42:33

place and she She

42:35

oh, that's what she called it. She uses

42:38

bread all the time in her snacks, but it's called

42:40

fitness

42:41

the bread. And

42:42

that's to have bread I think, Zachis. Is it actual bread

42:45

though? Is it, like, carb like, low carb

42:47

or gluten free or it's something

42:49

like that? Yeah. I feel like

42:51

it's adjacent to, like, the Joe and the

42:54

Juice spread. These also, like, one

42:56

of the main ones that made the tunicato at

42:58

Joe and the Juice, like, a huge craze. I don't

43:00

know if you've heard about that. No.

43:02

Another episode for food news, you

43:04

guys should have rotutinacato. I am

43:06

just like, the world has passed me by. I

43:08

think I have to get

43:10

on TikTok. I'm gonna send you some of Danielle's outside out of

43:12

one candidate. Please do.

43:14

We made our next list that we're going

43:16

over

43:16

or things that we're most looking forward.

43:19

To? Yes. We are. And

43:21

I made an adjacent

43:22

list to think that I'm not looking forward

43:23

to and the bachelor's on

43:26

that. I

43:27

agree with you. What should we

43:29

do about that? Like, I'm just so fundamentally

43:32

not looking forward to it. I

43:34

don't

43:34

think there's anything we can do.

43:35

I'm hoping that it's

43:38

just like, our our

43:40

expectations are so low that it'll be good.

43:43

The

43:43

people making the show seem excited

43:46

about But, like, they also chose Zach. So I can't trust him. Yeah.

43:48

I don't know if that means anything. Yeah.

43:50

I don't know

43:51

if that's me. Need to

43:53

know when we were told that he

43:54

was gonna be it. And I was like, no.

43:56

I can't be right. Yeah. I know. It was

43:58

like shocking. I mean, I

43:59

was looking

43:59

back at all of our episodes from this year.

44:01

is the one guy we don't want as bachelor in its

44:04

sack. So

44:06

tough. Bad behavior.

44:09

Prove us wrong. I

44:10

would love to be proven wrong, but, like Oh, no.

44:12

I know you said this,

44:13

but, like, the number one reason why we don't want

44:15

it is because he seems

44:17

too, like, normal. Yeah.

44:21

And just,

44:21

like, super boring and, like, he seems

44:22

like a, like, a crier and

44:24

I know. And

44:27

thinking and there's or it's

44:29

not really at But I just want more

44:31

comedy. Like, let's just make it

44:33

funny again. Let's Have

44:35

a good time. We really wanted the gappy

44:38

version of -- Yes. -- Bachelor,

44:40

which could have been Rodney.

44:42

Totally. And, like, it still

44:44

could be. I think they're I think

44:46

they have plans for Rodney. We I I just I he's they're really protecting

44:48

him, so I think there's, like, a large chance

44:50

something happens to him in the future. Let's

44:54

hope. Let's hope big time. Some things we're looking forward to.

44:56

Have you heard about the show Traders on

44:58

peacock next

45:00

month?

45:00

Alright. Of course. I'm really

45:03

excited about it. I have some of

45:05

my favorite characters in it. Oh my god. It's a

45:07

it is

45:08

like an all star cast. One

45:10

person who's not an all star but is on it is Ryan Lautie and everyone

45:12

else who is on it is like a famous

45:15

person that has been on a reality show

45:17

and then it's like, oh and Ryan Lautie. But

45:19

here's the animosity was on a reality

45:22

show on e,

45:24

and I went to school with me.

45:26

Oh, Go

45:28

Gators. Here's what we got. Ari, the bachelor,

45:30

Brandy Glenville, Serene Fields, who's

45:32

one of my

45:33

all time favorite survivor contestants. So

45:35

I'm really excited about

45:38

that. Cody from Big Brother, who I don't know who that is. Is he related

45:40

to Polly, by the way, from the challenge?

45:42

I believe so. Because it's the

45:44

same last

45:44

name. Okay. K Chastain Just

45:48

announced he's pregnant. Kyle Cook from Summer House, Rachel

45:50

Riley from Big Brother, Reza from Shaw

45:52

the Sunset, Ryan Lock Dee, it says

45:56

Olympian, and Stephanie from survivor. That is like a

45:57

great great list.

45:59

Mhmm. I'm really excited, great

46:02

casting, Jazzy

46:04

Collins, who I've had on this pod before to

46:06

the casting for it. So shout out to

46:08

her. Looks great. Really excited about that. That's

46:10

like probably it's very high on my

46:12

list, I have to

46:13

say. Yeah. It's it's something I'm

46:14

very much looking forward to. We're gonna

46:16

cover it on throwing a reality TV podcast,

46:19

so check it out. Am

46:21

I on that? No.

46:22

You can't be if you'd like to be. I

46:24

don't know the

46:24

names of all the shows, so that's why I asked that

46:27

I would love to be because I am looking forward to

46:29

it and has so many characters. Okay. Big brother

46:31

characters. Like, I just like the mix of it all. I'm gonna get into

46:33

big brother

46:33

next year. It's one of my

46:35

goals. Big

46:36

brother and or Love Island?

46:38

I mean, how am I not watching your number one and

46:40

two shows of the year? Like, it's a real blocker

46:42

in this

46:43

relationship. I also think big brother

46:45

and, like, it's impossible not to, like I know.

46:48

It's lower commitment than

46:49

than Love Island. But, like, do you think you'll like

46:51

me more if I want

46:52

to show? For sure.

46:54

And you watch shows with big

46:57

brother contestants on it. I know. I know. Although,

46:59

I will say they don't really, like, the

47:01

brother people aside from, like, Casey on a

47:04

challenge suck. Like, Fesey?

47:06

He's

47:07

a dummy. Okay.

47:08

oh Sure.

47:09

But they're big characters

47:11

on the show. I don't know why

47:13

Fassi is a big character. He hasn't

47:14

really been on it that much. Like episodes go by

47:17

and he's just not on it. Well,

47:18

also, he's usually good. He's not he hasn't made up this year.

47:20

Yeah. He seems like he's

47:21

I don't know. Whatever.

47:23

But like Josh

47:23

is a

47:26

big character. Seven

47:27

plus. Derek

47:29

was also the

47:31

challenge that they had on CBS that had a ton

47:33

of big brother characters. I thought

47:35

that was

47:36

good. Those

47:37

characters are actually good, good brother characters

47:39

too. Okay.

47:40

Alright. What else are you looking forward to?

47:42

My list

47:42

is kind of like me. It's okay.

47:44

You can just just give us one.

47:46

Okay. I'm

47:47

gonna be two. Okay. Great. I'm gonna be three. Sorry. Okay.

47:49

Great. But I'll make them quick. One is

47:51

the challenge that folks that I just learned about this

47:53

five minutes, but I'm really looking

47:55

forward to that. Is what? The challenge showing the challenge showing

47:57

the net front on the Netflix. On the Netflix. Yes. I

47:59

I don't know what it's called, but I'm excited about

48:02

that too. I'm excited

48:04

about

48:04

Long Island always after they have

48:06

a new host, my

48:10

agenda. Who I know

48:12

and I love and I'm so

48:14

like, I could not be more excited

48:17

to not only

48:18

know someone on the show, but know those

48:20

the show and she's you know, I said, I like funny

48:22

that people.

48:23

Mhmm. She's really

48:24

funny and really

48:25

fun and one of the prettiest people I've seen

48:28

in person. So

48:30

you know her personally.

48:32

Yeah. Wow.

48:32

Cool. He's

48:33

great. And then I'm

48:35

looking forward to

48:37

the bachelorette. Because

48:39

that means that the

48:40

bachelor's season is over. And we don't know who

48:42

the 'Bachelor' So

48:44

hope for someone good.

48:48

I'm hoping they pick one of the people that we

48:51

talked

48:51

about. Me too. Although maybe

48:53

Zach will

48:53

have some fun girls.

48:56

Who knows? I would I would

48:58

put it back with you. To the

49:00

Genovese. No way. No.

49:02

Genovese got so

49:04

much time on

49:06

Paradise. Paradise. She

49:07

said she wouldn't go on another dating

49:09

reality show,

49:11

but I'm like, she

49:12

got more time than anyone. Like,

49:15

not close.

49:15

She was so sad and damaged when

49:17

I interviewed her.

49:20

Like, I feel I hope she's okay. I hope she's So

49:22

I hope it's

49:23

on her. So Kelly,

49:25

I'm gonna ring Susie

49:26

on Thursday. I didn't even tell you.

49:29

Just came through. So you didn't say

49:31

anything? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Her,

49:33

TikTok's have been pretty interesting. Yeah. I'm looking

49:35

forward to hearing about, like, what life's been

49:37

like for her since they

49:39

broke up. I would like

49:40

to wrap up with things that I did

49:43

not like this year. K. I

49:45

did not like

49:46

buying Beverly Hills. I hated buying

49:48

Beverly Hills. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. I hated

49:50

it. Really good stuff. Did not like it.

49:52

I watched all of it, but did not

49:55

like it. I do not like

49:56

the new version of the Kardashians on Hulu.

49:58

Why not? Let me say

50:00

I

50:00

don't like it and I didn't

50:03

watch

50:03

that many episodes, but episodes that I

50:05

watch. It doesn't seem like it seems

50:07

like the

50:07

other Kardashian shows, it seems

50:10

like like they didn't have as much

50:12

control. Like, this show

50:14

seems

50:14

completely like, I'm sure

50:16

that's true. But

50:18

completely shaped to be

50:20

what the image that they want

50:22

and the stories that they want and

50:24

they're told how they want to be told.

50:26

There will never be a hot mic on this show. Let me tell you that. Like, it's

50:29

just, like, very, like, oh, yeah.

50:30

This is what you want us to

50:33

see. And, like, I'm

50:35

cool. I don't to maybe of like, I'm over the

50:37

Kardashians. I do think they make

50:39

some really great products. Get

50:42

you're a scam's girl. Love scams, couldn't say

50:44

enough about scams. I don't, like,

50:47

hate them. Like, I know a lot

50:49

of people hate them. I do

50:51

think they've profited off of other cultures. Sure. But, like, I don't hate

50:53

them. I hate I hate them for their distortion

50:55

of beauty standards. Sure.

50:58

There's a lot of reasons, you know, whatever. I'm saying I

51:00

just don't -- Sure. -- hate them. But I think I'm over

51:03

them so that there's probably a layer of

51:05

that too because they've just

51:08

been like oversaturated? Yeah. But the show

51:10

is not entertaining. And I don't even know people's like,

51:12

I don't know anyone that watches it.

51:14

I think it's a hit. I heard it's like the biggest show

51:16

in Hulu.

51:18

So

51:18

that's what I heard.

51:19

I will stay along those lines. I did

51:21

not enjoy the real housewives of Beverly

51:23

Hills. I stopped watching. I was just like, I don't

51:26

I can't

51:27

deal with this. I don't I don't

51:29

like it when there's no one to root for, and

51:30

I still like ourselves, like, kind of like sudden, but

51:33

I haven't watched. So maybe I wouldn't like

51:35

them if I watched. But It's

51:37

like So that sounds that and and I'd cheer for

51:39

them. Yeah. Like,

51:40

it's it's enough with, like,

51:42

just the way these women have

51:44

fallen to be, like, just absolute villains.

51:46

So I did not enjoy that. I think

51:48

in general, it's a little bit of a

51:50

problem for housewives at the moment. Like,

51:53

is the show if it's not just Villains, but maybe Orange

51:55

County will help it turn

51:58

around. Okay. I mean, I

51:59

hate

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Mickey's back. Right? And I can't stand

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her. So Isn't it Tamara's back and Vicki's like a friend or

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something? Oh, yeah. And then Taylor is now

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on. Taylor, I'm strong. He's now on. We're in

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county.

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Yeah. Anything else you hated or

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didn't like?

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I just put that I'm not looking forward

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to bachelor. Okay. Well, we're

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gonna find our

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enthusiasm. Thank you to Jade Whaley for producing this podcast. I'll

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be back with Susie later this week.

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And we