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i'm delighted you're here they are

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montana's only i get up to those sending

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off all the requests are

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, doesn't hundred i've had

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with get two baths or baths widow

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and lots of questions

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about this questions about go down known

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as jesse palmer prancer it's so he doesn't

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have and i mean it's play

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i wonder why they don't try to make that

1:22

role a little bit more spicy

1:25

like it's just it's such a nothing

1:27

role what is the point of even having someone

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in that role

1:30

really good question i i don't

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know i thought that

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maybe with him in that spot

1:37

they would have them be a little bit more of like

1:40

there are like fatherly presents the way to chris

1:42

harrison was too reliant of his tenure mumbai

1:45

oh wait i'm like obsessive jesse but

1:47

as i think about it and not really sure why

1:49

how do you feel about him i feel nothing

1:51

about i'm honestly i mean he's handsome

1:55

you seem nice ah

1:58

i don't know in it is kind of he ends up looking

2:00

like a lot of the guys i think it's a little thing

2:03

yeah

2:05

fbi he , a landmark

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for yeah he no he doesn't really do

2:09

anything for me if they fired him tomorrow that look

2:11

at his ex you know know

2:14

you know what i don't dislike him which for

2:16

me is important you know yeah adaptable

2:19

agree i think i like the fact that he's like

2:21

a house i also find it funny that

2:23

he's like i have no idea what's going on and maybe i'm

2:25

just like drinking the kool aid but i kind of

2:27

believe that a no idea he has no idea

2:29

whenever they come to emily would we do the things

2:32

happen he's like ah you can

2:34

do whatever he wanted it elicited up it's

2:36

up to you and your journey he doesn't

2:38

really have any input but i guess

2:40

and system kind of the filler role and

2:42

the filler likable and so and honestly like

2:45

if we're being real they probably just wanted someone non

2:47

offensive ah not as anything

2:49

wrong nothing to get cancelled or get

2:52

in trouble and he's riding

2:54

that vanilla though said

2:56

they wanted to be on

2:57

yeah, it's been a lot i mean,

2:59

i know, i'm obsessed with him, cuz i him

3:01

over google hangouts, and he

3:03

has the most beautiful eyes and, basically,

3:06

every opportunity i get like,

3:07

you ever forget his green eyes did

3:10

they have chemistry?

3:12

how i did you chemistry the everyone he did

3:14

like that that either football guy

3:16

and i follow sports pretty closely

3:18

so as a time limit for it's not just the bachelor

3:20

the you like that but that's not really

3:22

chemistry could tell you my life has a thing

3:25

as a woman who likes of hurts does not cover

3:27

three make so yeah die so

3:29

what really well by that really care

3:31

although the

3:33

my reluctant to share there's like tolerate

3:36

says quietly thank you it's like our

3:38

girl stuff you know we want our guys to

3:40

tolerate it but we don't really want them to be

3:43

generating it you know about my

3:46

husband is like a psychotic sports fan

3:48

it's like deeply permeates every cell

3:51

in his being ah i'm and

3:53

i'm this last year decided to embrace

3:56

basketball season and okay

3:59

the warriors and i gotta say

4:01

you really like the in a mental of to him

4:04

that's right i saw the warriors

4:06

are pretty hard to he also klay thompson as irrational

4:08

player isn't he hopes you

4:11

yeah i bit obsessive verbal a long time a

4:13

was a rumor when he was in college that

4:16

he was on an allowance because he got busted

4:18

for having lead and like his fellow

4:20

at all houses afterwards

4:22

i don't think that's true but i thought it was

4:24

so funny that i became obsessed with and his arm

4:26

and now he's really get a basketball so i have

4:28

varied that better you you are

4:31

you invest in early before yeah

4:33

the thing well i at the moment last

4:35

year and people who are listening this to listen the bachelor

4:37

deathly in owning a cyclist forth but last

4:40

year when clay got injured he

4:42

like blocked off the court with a torn a cel

4:44

and then you wash him the tunnel the like you know what

4:47

fuck it i'm going back out there and he went

4:49

back out there i literally like looks my husband

4:51

was like i'll leave you for him right now i am

4:53

in love with have me and my sisters

4:56

their inaugural for dead my we're all like we have

4:58

romantic feelings for the first them

5:01

but yeah he is that

5:03

ass i love him i don't we can move on and

5:05

second plasma say he would be a great

5:07

like bachelor yeah so you are a

5:09

on a date or never get other he has a boat i

5:12

think like my ideal bachelor day it would be

5:15

klay thompson like driving around

5:17

the couple for around san francisco

5:19

bag as he like really as as though and i

5:21

know what i'm female that else they don't

5:23

use both enough on the bachelor maybe

5:25

like the sound is difficult how

5:28

many out there going to a cruise ship when they go to europe

5:30

that and son are selected by me oh man oh

5:33

you know i'm sorry last time i like interviewed us

5:35

on mckinnon among hundred a month in a diary

5:37

a hard reset her saying you

5:39

just still really like sort to you're not

5:41

driving the mods or science with

5:43

a camera whatever whatever feel said oh really

5:45

control how

5:48

are you believe a tube amps or has so far the

5:51

further detail everyone take ever and i discuss

5:53

the bouncer outlet i'm like what do you think about having two

5:55

gals so i've

5:57

had when i first

5:59

watched first episode

6:01

the first half of

6:03

it was really boring i thought and

6:06

i like all the introductions has is too many

6:08

too many guys are getting it was like a lost

6:11

an arm the girls weren't like giving

6:13

strong takes on anything hi

6:15

the second episode i'm now really really

6:18

into the idea i'm i'm cared

6:20

about it because you can see how quickly

6:22

this is going to spiral out of control

6:24

you feel that way fuck

6:27

up the science experiment or like social

6:29

experiments watching to women

6:31

who genuinely like each other and are like

6:34

nice girls and supportive of each other like

6:37

be forced to be turned on each other

6:40

for guys yeah you know and they're

6:42

like

6:43

clearly going to start analyzing

6:45

themselves and comparing themselves to

6:47

each other it's like every girl's nightmare

6:49

is a guy with now me like i like your friend

6:52

i know you carry

6:54

on like i like anxiety watching it is that

6:56

how it would make me feel for that was like let me be

6:58

clear i'm not here for you

7:02

when when michael buble said that to rachel

7:05

a the beginning of their date i just start

7:07

jason i just com michael buble was

7:09

like wait michael buble on the show okay

7:11

right oh oh oh the race car driver

7:13

now someone who

7:15

said to her i'm here for gabi at that like

7:18

the barriers are yeah he's as a result i'm

7:20

here for gabby you look for michael boob

7:22

i i know that michael bouvier very same as the saying

7:24

your dad thug that's probably where we to say that

7:26

but really weird for me to talk about my

7:28

close personal friends on his podcast some

7:31

capital of that fund for the record i know

7:34

conversion too

7:35

the i love up until

7:37

yeah i felt like i actually really cute and i

7:39

felt like he was really overlooked on that date

7:42

when he said that said felt the pain

7:44

of racial been like fucked the says really cute and

7:47

then i would sanofi with he would get the

7:49

road because he seemed like a vibe

7:51

you know back the you the sleeper

7:54

as ugly gotten a lot of shots of have

7:56

made this this is cute but i think i

7:58

think he's

7:58

enquire be nice

7:59

you see him and he'd italy's gets to leave ally

8:02

we see him and some other places but if

8:04

the are like maybe gabi

8:06

is getting more attention for the guys

8:08

the season right i

8:11

discussed this with my my coerce

8:13

on mondays tally the

8:16

about your other call her and i'm

8:18

on upon oh

8:20

sorry i i just i

8:23

saw tell you i'm not here for the of your mother

8:25

or again

8:29

getting more attention i'm not really

8:31

biased pro gabi like i'm just

8:33

like a mcgarrigle will listen we

8:35

thought about this is not been a lot

8:37

of girls that have a good sense of humor on the shell

8:40

and i love

8:42

this love this girl who's like properly sunny

8:45

like see as like

8:46

right search day

8:49

like genuinely funny like she would

8:51

you stand up and like do a great job she's like

8:53

funny and and just like

8:55

weird and corky and i'm just into her

8:57

vibe and

9:00

i think she's so beautiful and she's iraq

9:02

and body and i was i was bomb

9:04

we listen it's it's so so

9:07

get how it happens that i feel like before

9:09

the show everyone gets like fresh injection you

9:11

know or like their new ingestion that they've

9:13

never had before and i

9:15

really missed like

9:17

why have you been gathering previous say yes

9:20

idea it how i feel

9:22

really next about it obviously comes of a lot of reality

9:25

the is as if you are how size without

9:27

the brought up in the bravo world the

9:29

i got it

9:30

that's cool one is that single

9:32

different on tv than they do in real life so in

9:34

real life maybe you think that it looks good

9:37

a natural than like you know harsh

9:39

lighting and a camera can really

9:41

more nfl jason not

9:43

kind of what not finding attic and have

9:45

them and then i also think

9:48

i would have the goes far as to say

9:50

i know that the

9:52

same amount of injections they look really

9:54

different on every single person so

9:57

someone can do illegal little shows and it

9:59

looks interface the last night

10:01

the nice natural and someone else can do and

10:03

it looks like really sake and really weird on them

10:05

to the all of our faces are so different and people

10:07

have different sicknesses to their skin and

10:09

i could handle different amounts you can see one

10:11

girl gets lip injections that looks so

10:13

weird and so like misshapen

10:16

and and other times are like alex great

10:18

if if if i if i knew that a look like that

10:20

the maybe i would try though i think the

10:22

know that sucks for girls you don't realize

10:25

they're doing like a little amount or the same zone

10:27

else notice what's weirder on them

10:29

no i have to

10:31

say i'm gabby hasn't had this type type of tell the

10:33

next year before police as i'm aware of

10:35

selling airplanes she probably it

10:38

know at what was gonna look good on camera

10:40

and what's not going to the

10:42

argus was really young how that i

10:44

ah gabi thirty one and rachel twenty said

10:47

how twenty six you don't need any

10:49

induction that's for sure and thirty warlock shiny

10:52

yeah i think he was pretty normal yeah

10:56

gabby look so smooth to me it was a she's

10:58

and like

10:58

the touch but she leaning out that not

11:01

about i got it it's like you're going on

11:03

tv is about for and people say like ours

11:05

you up and need to say yes i get it

11:07

i mean i think she's really hot those he

11:09

said barry how pod and they're

11:12

both they're both beautiful girls like

11:14

there's and there's no doubt about it

11:16

i like seen that they generally like each other like they

11:18

seem like really caring about one

11:21

hundred and silly got some easily

11:23

actually a benefit of this

11:25

by it you know i tried under the actually

11:28

pushing away the hurt that will also assiduously

11:30

com but i both

11:33

handling it really well so far like what

11:35

reason like you know we see a bunch of

11:37

guys the i'm here for gabi and she's she's taken

11:39

a pretty well i don't think i'll take a bow wow sounds

11:42

i can confirm her i can confirm i would not

11:44

take it that well and i

11:46

think she i agree with you i think seat listen

11:48

i was looking at their friendship

11:50

how excited they were to be doing this together and how

11:52

and the same page they were and how happy they were

11:55

for each other and the moment when

11:57

rachel said she was like ceiling one

11:59

of those guys or maybe logan

12:01

logan is later okay me today and

12:03

gabby like you're saying but instead of saying

12:05

anything you know it's so easy for

12:07

that and has of the to get ignited a new

12:10

of the girl and when she like we can

12:12

the attitude of like oh that's okay

12:15

a week has to be like

12:17

they see because it's like source human nature

12:19

to like defend novice at nothing we you're excited

12:21

about and instead she just like swallowed it was like

12:23

that's really exciting i'm so happy for you and what

12:27

i agree with you really nice for women

12:29

wanting to be reminded ethan

12:31

no not

12:33

mall your best friend over

12:36

a a guy that you met

12:37

hold hours ago

12:39

very to play

12:41

seriously also i'm pretty positive aca

12:43

low get is gonna be a true fuck boy

12:45

he just seems that he's got done by had

12:47

you were married cell is so so full

12:49

of share i don't like i might i

12:52

agree watch him closely isn't he was playing

12:54

he is playing both sides in and the guy the

12:56

gabby gave the rose hill what's his name

12:58

gabby gave

13:00

her rose to johnny

13:03

yeah i might not understanding what these girls are

13:05

seeing him they're both think you should i'm like not seeing

13:08

have a person here will obviously

13:10

in our personality and presence accounts for a lot

13:13

fighting over type of like attractive person

13:15

who lives like looks the average on t v

13:17

but must look super above average in real life

13:19

especially when it comes to reality shows his and mary

13:22

often the really that guy yeah

13:25

then you see him up cause you're like oh that's

13:27

i mean i get it

13:29

on it or yeah and i was really

13:32

however really kind of happy that

13:35

rachel being really vulnerable really real

13:37

honest i really respect that that she's like i'm

13:39

scared that we like me here and i don't really know

13:41

where i stand and so i think

13:43

both of them are not being like pageant

13:46

he about it you know they're being and a real i

13:48

do think that rachel the much more like

13:51

the often fleet had a good

13:53

girl yeah spare nest and

13:55

he is very younger she doesn't

13:57

mean she hasn't had a heart

13:58

broken as much as yeah

13:59

it is a cop hard in my life yeah

14:02

exactly like not like jaded and cynical

14:04

yet which is a beautiful thing to watch i

14:06

know hold onto rates always wanted

14:09

a whole lot as long as possible so pie be gone

14:11

by the of the season yeah seriously isis

14:14

a , more say about race also please indulge

14:16

easy good on the rachel path and i have seen that coming

14:18

for you to give it to

14:20

that point about her earnestness your

14:23

take on how she reacted to

14:25

race car guy that she ends up sending home whose

14:27

name i believe is jordan

14:30

she was like freaking out that

14:32

she wasn't into him and she was like really worry

14:34

that his observations about sir at we see her

14:36

talking to her producer and she's like a

14:39

, to do i suppose you think we missed

14:41

something like why did she has a strong reaction

14:44

he definitely so dramatic

14:47

to me

14:48

i mean i i'm not like a big

14:50

fan of girls crying like all the time for

14:52

the save with the same severity of no matter what

14:54

the situation as you know i'm obviously this guy wasn't

14:56

like invested at this point it's

14:59

the first date ever so

15:01

i think he was fine so

15:03

i don't beginning to be so dramatic but having said

15:06

i do understand this feeling of like

15:08

the pressure to be what you think

15:10

the bachelor at is where you're supposed

15:12

to

15:13

the right person for your first one on one

15:15

deaf people invested in a relationship

15:18

and she feels like she may have picked wrong or

15:20

like you know how it is a relationship so there's

15:22

a nice guy the reality

15:24

shot of it isn't real

15:26

you go out a nice guy that into that checked all the

15:29

boxes and you don't the or

15:31

what you thought you would feel what you think you should

15:33

feel and you feel

15:35

you feel like you have failed relegated

15:37

i wonder why problem exactly why

15:40

don't i liked this guy and thinking about the guy that

15:42

satellites you know it's successes

15:44

of mine zoc and so i can send

15:46

her to ceiling lot of pressure especially after she

15:49

was thinking she's not really getting a lot of attention

15:51

and maybe thinking like maybe i'm not great

15:53

at this which i think they are a great

15:55

layer to have of the so

15:57

yeah i actually worth independent

15:59

observer

15:59

it's like can bambee loves

16:02

and of course that can be loved but yeah

16:04

i'd love to i think that seems happy he's

16:07

so cute who he was her

16:09

name is just and she

16:11

seems very nice as well they met the

16:13

his instagram oh dot a burial

16:16

not the shutdown yeah now they married

16:18

so he was only there to ramble syracuse love

16:21

that anyway

16:23

another piece of that rachel day that my friends arab

16:25

instantly cannot not you're not your sister

16:27

to my system affecting you for the buster the

16:30

wild that he thinks i'm his the

16:32

they she's never watched it that bad

16:35

that mother aware that but anyway

16:37

ritual unilaterally send somehow think

16:41

there is a different like one of the wrong

16:44

what do you think she decided on the fly do you

16:46

think that's see and gabby decided

16:48

that short and the drag car racers only

16:50

for rachel but why was she able

16:52

to do that

16:55

are you using he

16:57

i was confusing she decide to send him home others like

16:59

way of gabi doesn't get to decide if she wants in there

17:01

either i don't know i don't know how

17:03

it works and will i don't think they know how it works either

17:06

tiger and his overall i feel like i

17:08

could imagine gabi be like

17:09

sorry why is it that guy home like

17:11

i was feeling that guy and now he left and humid

17:14

as executive decision on that you

17:16

, job losses as job losses

17:18

interested go for it ability seem but maybe

17:20

too short for gabi yeah

17:22

i honestly all girl she just felt to

17:25

innocent you did had

17:27

the reply an edge and by the way maybe she'll

17:29

have known better you have that add some

17:31

but i always i also think

17:34

it's really kind of funny that

17:37

think it's really funny when people i'm

17:39

build up it's

17:41

like really emotional moment to tell you

17:43

that their parents got divorced like

17:47

by the way i'm way kid have like fifteen

17:49

divorces okay they can absolutely

17:52

the dramatic but they're really

17:54

com and no would

17:56

ever be somebody like gets really

17:58

emotional and like the punchline

18:01

is my parents got divorced i'm just

18:03

like the you think that's unique i

18:05

mean all of her parents has horses

18:07

you must be been held to say that i had the exact

18:10

same by and then i was like and my parents are still

18:12

together so like what do i now but i

18:14

was just someone tell him to play that up silly

18:16

there that says it's that nothing else

18:18

interesting about him and like nothing else to

18:20

disguise because they're

18:23

really seem like he didn't the move the conversation

18:25

anywhere i think he can really pride boring

18:27

and the

18:28

yeah i'll be so bad from though when she

18:30

left him waiting who's sitting there like not knowing what to do

18:33

the i know it was him on a date his

18:35

his on the day that she asked him to the on and he just

18:37

sitting there like you know now probably

18:39

a civilian about to get dumped and it was sad

18:41

watching him there

18:43

a phone for times like that like you

18:45

can be on your phone all the time but like

18:48

the ten minutes wanna leave has you by

18:50

yourself and there's nothing to do like they

18:52

should be given like a like

18:54

a mad libs are like a game of of

18:56

like pseudo go or tiger any anything

18:58

to pass the time or i always

19:01

like an adult i would think about like

19:03

when we used to go out to dinner on a date

19:05

or with a friend and they go the bathroom

19:07

and like the the line of the bathrooms their conflict him whatever

19:10

you to do with we weren't looking our phones that

19:12

who doesn't look around the room and take it all

19:14

in and like think now it's like so

19:16

embarrassing were held

19:18

when you got your first time

19:19

i was seventeen

19:22

sixteen or seventeen i was like i think a

19:25

senior and with a can look the nokia

19:27

they had snit neighbor equity stake yeah

19:29

yeah yeah as the sale adam play snake

19:32

an aeroplane sake of high school i got my first

19:34

phone as thirtieth so

19:37

i had almost no alone time when i

19:39

am didn't have that

19:41

here the thing there were so many generations

19:43

and hill you were like a slap a

19:45

messenger where you can like constantly be on

19:47

it and you were and and instagram

19:49

didn't come around and that was a surreal kicker

19:52

you know where you really focuses their your phone all day long didn't

19:55

come until somewhat later so i don't know

19:58

bbm silicon says said because

19:59

i know that

20:00

the your pet carrier pair was like

20:02

pretty pretty big like l he was

20:04

hence we can be be an as fifa

20:07

it really was i know people were

20:09

it's weird when things get discontinued and

20:11

like things out that unanimous unanimously

20:14

ever love

20:15

the night with my library curve my two thousand

20:17

and i'm blackberry the like silver one that was

20:19

like not really for is the first time it is not

20:21

it for work and the who are like a fun

20:23

phone that's the best on ever had i

20:25

murmur a broker wonder years the of as dempsey that

20:28

it was just successor great fun a messy

20:30

be am greatly make it here anyway

20:34

join and deserved some fun time in that moment

20:36

but i agree something a game i

20:38

know nothing he seems to be to help africa yeah

20:41

seriously i'm who's the other guy that caught

20:43

your attention like who who are you you know

20:45

you can describe them i will probably disgustingly

20:47

know their names so yeah and i don't another name

20:49

for it so free dial the guy that

20:51

gabby when l with with the earring

20:54

they yeah me ah

20:57

i was surprised at first there

21:00

like she was feeling him but then

21:02

when i saw him on the data was like

21:04

i really thought he had this very cool

21:06

vibe and he feels very

21:08

mature and very deep and an

21:10

almost like he wasn't showing it enough on the day

21:13

like using really lovable unlikable

21:15

in the interviews and then when he was with her

21:17

he just kind goofy foot i

21:19

was is dying when he like open up about

21:21

his daughter

21:23

the result only sweet

21:25

and so beautiful and then it cuts the gavin she's

21:27

like as soon as he said it i would like i don't

21:29

want to be a mom had

21:32

about your first saw your first i

21:34

i she said i don't have a ready to be a mob

21:38

yeah the interpreted how

21:40

are you well but my gabi

21:43

grade she can't like you know selzer

21:45

she says she's thinking like rates

21:47

are so sweet how much he loves his daughter

21:50

and like i could totally see myself as

21:52

his daughters mob exceed our shoes play

21:54

along that because i have already

21:56

been said been said but it confused

21:58

me because she started

21:59

crying sommelier this

22:02

is confusing like if you're crying when you really moved

22:04

by it which you know she should be but

22:06

then asked him if she's like oh he said and

22:08

i like freaked out and co it

22:10

was not it was like miss

22:11

jimmy

22:13

i think you can put it out mother had because of her own

22:15

relationship with her mom much candidly i don't completely

22:17

amber accepted fact she's like that really the picture

22:20

i don't really remember the details of it either

22:22

but some but that makes sense enough as

22:24

you can have to like i'm a i love that they're opening up

22:27

and and admitting things like this i do feel like the

22:29

show has gotten a little bit more real the last couple years

22:31

and dumb people are beyond

22:34

that more themselves a little bit more

22:36

open

22:37

the i agree i did i instagram

22:39

snoop on ne not really a snoop

22:41

when he gone the bachelor at the out due diligence

22:44

really ah i'm nate does

22:46

not have a lot of pictures his first photo

22:48

as from twenty eight and

22:50

he has nine of his daughter and

22:52

those does have are like pretty

22:55

art see though like travel

22:57

photography my life

22:59

the white comic serious stuff so select

23:02

basically the dream instagram when you thought

23:04

the guy

23:05

yeah

23:06

i am positive it was not always as way i

23:08

think sydney period at a

23:10

i support that like protect

23:12

your daughter and present your best self you're

23:14

going on t the like i love this is a hater

23:17

ad like to see of a man is like savvy

23:19

about how is presenting himself cel i as

23:21

i know those apply says look at

23:23

more people to do this like get rid of your problematic

23:26

instagram there are just you know you

23:28

also protects his daughter gray and not accusing

23:30

him of having been problematic but like more people

23:33

should do that the problem is that

23:35

is that of guys especially guys are going the bachelor

23:38

they don't realize that having

23:40

like cheesy cel fees the

23:43

is so growth on instagram

23:45

so they don't know to hide at fail

23:47

noted for their that they should be hiding it as they think

23:50

that they're like selling their best side but it's

23:52

just it's is devastate the see how many men

23:54

are comfortable i'm living

23:56

not like she's healthy life

23:58

now do you do you feel the judge women

24:00

as much as man for the cheeses healthy life within

24:03

women are

24:05

like expected to an assumed

24:07

to have more vanity than men

24:10

frames know i do think that they're the like more

24:12

leniency for women who are being

24:14

really vain and like some superficial

24:17

then there are about men like you kind of want to guy

24:19

to be above that

24:20

the and so when they're not it's

24:22

like not kill ah

24:24

but don't be don't so because his i judge women

24:27

also god ,

24:29

as to declare that the basis

24:32

of the five hour and the entire bachelor the

24:34

franchise groundwater are the same page yeah

24:36

don't worry about outline although

24:38

need his friends were philippines

24:42

yeah ten from had a seasons

24:44

as it hello peter currently were minutes and

24:46

york attorney deathly got some tips

24:48

on like had at present thou for his lands

24:51

again i like it or hate that

24:53

like it's that's great know i'll i like him at

24:55

the end it seems like from the scenes

24:57

so the future he's around for a while and like

24:59

that yeah and it feels like he goes

25:01

out with both of them to sell

25:03

if you don't really

25:06

dicey

25:07

yeah

25:08

how did you do a marissa who got ah

25:10

the first pressure as gabby got like

25:12

getting some time with rachel and kind of like

25:15

i'm hanging out like what do you think if

25:17

you are going on this show like how would you

25:19

approach it like would you like want

25:21

to see them up would you be like

25:23

the card games like i don't either i don't even

25:26

know it's raid i don't allow here

25:28

first of all i found nothing for mario and

25:30

i was really surprised he got a first impression was because

25:32

he didn't leave a great first impression house

25:35

i was a i was i don't know nothing i'm still

25:37

antibes like no thanks these issues a

25:39

year is like not doing anything

25:41

and i don't see him any up with them and so i know i

25:43

was bummed that al as a first impression row that when l

25:47

i felt kind of like gabi is gabi

25:49

give it away i fell in chicago

25:52

didn't know who else to give it to cause you other

25:54

it really like that impressive anybody

25:56

and so she just picked a nice person

25:58

that i can appreciate that

25:59

ah

26:01

the part where she saw him

26:04

she saw him like dipping rachel or something

26:06

i leave the hotel

26:08

yeah

26:10

i mean

26:11

in that these guys are in

26:14

it it's tough position see can even

26:16

want to like way your options

26:18

who likes me more so who do i have

26:20

like in l a better on who the better option

26:22

for me who i get more attention from and

26:24

then also you know who to i like more

26:27

and you can't like you can have to decide really

26:29

quick an early before you get know that it

26:31

has if you play the both sides grover

26:34

not going to be down for that so yeah

26:36

another you didn't he thing hair a wall

26:38

but i think it's not like a smart

26:40

long play with you use of high pick one person

26:43

and like focus on them and stick to it

26:45

i know if we don't know if

26:47

can evolve like

26:48

the hardest part about that you about your ass is like

26:51

getting the opportunity to let explore connection

26:54

as they say you know my new if

26:56

you know gabi are exploring and if erase

26:58

illegal after illegal just i don't know the

27:00

answer as

27:01

like it's really not a perfect scenario

27:04

i had thought before the show

27:07

aired the season

27:08

that maybe they with each have their own group of guys

27:11

and that may be like if one

27:13

girl with like i'm not feeling this on any more

27:16

than like they would have an opportunity for the

27:18

other girl to save them or something like herself

27:20

good idea yeah so that there wouldn't be

27:22

so much confusion

27:24

but that's not how it is so

27:29

it's definitely die definitely will say

27:31

that even on it said to have to have

27:33

i was really happy that the guy erica

27:35

said on saturday he

27:37

i think so everyone yoga and upset

27:39

help the us ah because

27:42

he was such a bad vibe and i really

27:44

that was funny that the guys told me as condescending

27:46

and then the girl told him you condescending and i'm like

27:49

bro you might want to like listen to the feedback

27:51

as you're clearly condescending

27:53

during my mate with so great when he is talking

27:55

about how you know china

27:58

like control their sex sex lies

27:59

now the police and i

28:01

really like thing is like feminist ramp

28:03

as berries yeah i loved

28:05

it i mean i keep talking about this that's very hard for me

28:07

to like divorce the shell from the moment we're living

28:10

in right now so like i feel more

28:12

anger towards some of these situations

28:14

the maybe i would have two years ago

28:17

or whatever the i mean that as air the world

28:19

is

28:20

well if on of actually quickly falling apart

28:22

yeah now you know i thank you so

28:24

much they need

28:25

they'll play keeper of the i really

28:27

my other

28:28

what kind of one him like redo

28:30

the like the like swish

28:33

sidebar air side hair thing that

28:35

yeah i'm just the like we could

28:37

you know simplify it it's like distracting slaves

28:39

to see it like always to one side you know

28:42

one show has really done for me is normalized

28:45

mail jewelry cousin you're like neat as the earring

28:47

like i have like the earring what of

28:49

really suck out to me but i just kind of a breeze

28:51

right pass it in the previous nate for michelle

28:53

season he also have like a dangly airing

28:56

done on earth really like caught my eye

28:58

on her now i just like i'm used to it i'm

29:00

like okay met male male juri sir

29:02

okay yeah i don't that in real life

29:05

breaks up on the shall i guess

29:06

it's really a peacock with like the

29:09

side part in the area

29:10

that combo ain't nobody has

29:12

that he doesn't as him than previously an electrical

29:15

engineer he seems like a like a

29:17

very sweet father the unit

29:19

name is like deathly great on paper and or

29:22

he's great

29:23

any as a human tears that was will

29:25

say ah

29:27

five hundred feet as the spent over com

29:29

the regional aspect of this week navy bald

29:31

israeli infuriated that they have them

29:33

were speedo my reaction

29:36

wire people why the controversial

29:39

why you know if

29:41

they is safe while women wear bikinis

29:44

why is ahead of them were silly like even more

29:46

the employee clad are more skimpy

29:49

or be like he will be freaking out over

29:51

of asking women to do that

29:52

right i mean listen

29:55

i think that there are

29:57

though so he acceptable thing sassy will

29:59

do in real life and then they're socially acceptable

30:01

things as someone who agreed to be on the show

30:04

and signed like a forty five page contract

30:06

and level mechanically so polaroids

30:09

of themselves naked to

30:11

get the job so i think like we're

30:13

not watching real life

30:15

here fray you go on a show and you know

30:17

that your body is a part of it

30:20

and that you're in to be asked to do

30:22

embarrassing things in there are we going to find a way to get

30:24

you guys you know in you to

30:26

the together so i mean

30:28

yeah it's like the only but what

30:31

are we gonna like suddenly pretend like this show has to

30:33

be through like the best earth that america

30:35

has offer in terms of value

30:38

i mean know like the girls wanted you

30:40

know analyzer their abs

30:42

and probably how he big the bulges

30:44

in their sito

30:46

yeah of course it's just the i did something as

30:48

an attractive way to like interface the man

30:50

the i'm on my thing about a man and a speedo

30:52

turns me on or does anything for me so

30:55

that i agree with you there is like not

30:57

kill ah i'm so i guess i would say

30:59

i'm offended by just because i think it's like near

31:02

unattractive that yeah growth to see guys like and

31:04

will be does you have excited

31:06

about an hour so i guess it out and so

31:08

sooner it's all i think it's funny when girls

31:10

are like

31:12

the i have much more of a liquor

31:15

than physical is

31:17

your thing they loved to see you know but i

31:20

typically thing that guys attractiveness

31:23

is really much more of like a vibe it's confidence

31:25

it's like a feeling you're at a care of themselves

31:28

as how they talk to you and so

31:30

i always find it really surprising when

31:32

women are like excited to

31:34

see a guys like it or yeah like

31:36

still isn't a pack the like either

31:38

see a guy making terrible conversations

31:40

that conversations was i was strive to buy packs

31:42

and i'm like who cares about pets when

31:44

a guy like speaking gibberish you

31:46

know i i i don't really

31:49

agree with you

31:50

yeah i don't think like i would never want to go

31:52

to like chippendale and biggest lake and like

31:54

the magic mike live show actually thanks

31:57

within that some fun but only because it's funny and

31:59

like and like

31:59

ironic it's not because the labour i

32:02

gotta go upstairs

32:02

a man

32:07

agree i do i just how the heat vegas

32:09

so i'm like no thanks but i

32:11

could see what you're saying it's like a fun

32:13

trip for yeah not like that

32:15

the hot say

32:16

yeah shepherd about syrup party

32:19

is also a funny thing to do but like not

32:21

like actually hi i'm

32:23

the i'm sure they can recover with these guys

32:25

after their embarrassing entrances

32:28

like that would be enough for me like please don't come in

32:30

the house i can't with village the weird like

32:32

need is for this is so like

32:34

you decide to meet with your daily the

32:37

like so try hard you want to see a guy just

32:39

kind of like

32:40

i don't know like the a little my mom and

32:42

yeah like philo more effortless

32:45

yeah well if you're going agree and gone

32:46

the show you have is your threshold for that are

32:49

a high our and by through mom i

32:51

think we're point about like

32:52

the attract nothing and how so many different

32:55

things that sucker lived there

32:56

if i feel ugly really see

32:58

at with how the guys talk to

33:00

that like you know what they talk about

33:02

how engaged they are how they make them see

33:04

all like that what blows and outgoing

33:07

and him for him so barnes and nobles

33:09

rates on gabi like amazon though i think he's

33:11

is a his bullshit on t v in the moment

33:14

what you like you're so brave for continuous

33:16

or any and rachel's like

33:18

let me so much any the movies

33:20

like cricket i'll be right back gabby you're also

33:23

so brave for being here

33:25

like that guy the

33:28

and a few lines and it worked really well

33:31

yeah but they obviously like you

33:33

primacy of worn down from these sizing

33:35

really the january and

33:37

out and no connection someone someone shows like it

33:40

seems like genuine interest in must be you

33:43

know you're like addicted to a swanky more

33:45

and more shots of that yeah no i

33:47

agree i mean did the guys are a surprise

33:49

me in in episode two i

33:51

felt like they

33:53

don't know they had a more linked

33:56

interesting personalities than i was expecting

33:58

from none that you there's more than me

33:59

hi

34:01

definitely agree wonder

34:04

what we talking a lot about is rachel style and one

34:06

of my coworkers pointed at me the perhaps i'm projecting

34:08

my own like get comfort

34:10

with rage

34:11

lock onto her rachel

34:13

apparently told

34:14

the stylus that she was going for a mother of the bride

34:16

the has an interview energy

34:19

we were the sale of carry that that news alerts

34:21

what rachel

34:21

wayne that she actually said

34:24

currently i why would she ever want to look

34:27

like my mother of of right i

34:29

have no idea of especially

34:32

because she does now look very matronly

34:35

yeah mind

34:37

the super weird kid god is

34:39

gabi have a cute style like gabi

34:42

was wearing like last season like plaid

34:44

sweater with of mini skirt and like

34:46

had like of leaning and like the nineties ascetic

34:49

and i felt i feel she has like cute

34:51

nineties style ah and rachel

34:53

definitely has played dowdy style

34:56

yeah you know the whole ah

34:59

but apparently what rachel said as

35:01

her go to silence mother of mother bride

35:03

musab and she doesn't necessarily

35:06

want to look that way with what she feels like she pecks

35:08

and then carrier science

35:11

like okay let's try to do that for ten years younger

35:13

and someone

35:15

yeah they know they're really good doubt that it feels like when

35:17

rachel style they don't know how to make her look

35:19

high if it doesn't involve showing her boobs

35:22

and she doesn't have like

35:24

vivid and i should really got me at the she

35:26

may wish that showing it ah as a sickly

35:28

good at them or a ceremony not black dresses have

35:30

accounted for the v towards her were

35:32

natural waste but i'm curious

35:35

like

35:35

are you working fast and like what should rachel

35:38

be wearing and like house could sheila you

35:40

know mother the bride ten years younger

35:42

but actually it but less dowdy you know

35:45

i was really confused

35:47

by the choice of the red dress you are on her went to one

35:49

because it

35:50

didn't fit he did not fit her philly to see

35:52

didn't sit her properly and was like digging

35:54

into her the sides and like pushing

35:56

her boobs down and it was

35:58

like really high like he didn't

36:00

fit price or less than flattering has it

36:03

didn't center and when you have big boobs it is

36:05

hard to dress

36:07

for your body without really like putting your

36:09

tits out so to me i

36:12

feel like rate so

36:14

who'd have a much like seeker

36:16

kind

36:17

monotone cool like that

36:19

vibe because she can look like

36:22

like wearing you can always

36:24

were like the ice skater dresses you know like their prom

36:26

he and i feel like she would be really

36:28

cool cause she's curvy and she has

36:30

and beautiful face so great hair i

36:32

feel like seated really were

36:35

like like high waisted

36:37

like cool trousers that like since in of the ways

36:39

with i go you know why like an oversized

36:42

man ser like i feel like that would be a really cool

36:44

look on her

36:45

the

36:46

so i wish you would lean into that allah more publicity

36:49

really hard to draw

36:51

when you have

36:52

the big chest and you don't know

36:54

if you should hide it or you should accentuate

36:56

because i'm sure if you accentuated that we would be

36:58

girl

36:59

hell what are you doing they're all really out there

37:03

no i am so desensitized

37:05

that look for the his about the other

37:07

outside the ohio just be

37:09

like okay yeah that seems about

37:11

right but i destroyed the also see your point

37:14

zero more sleep

37:15

you are a lot of like one shouldered dresses

37:18

last season and like she the were

37:20

like holsters to evening

37:22

should be doing more think like that issued

37:25

control of that like a moral for getting dressed as

37:27

they have like a higher and netanyahu and i'm

37:29

like a fleet of less for him that we're

37:32

calling where it's i hard too because gabi

37:35

hi like you

37:37

the body to their clothes any know clearly that

37:39

she just seems like she like naturally very

37:41

like lean and tone and like of how

37:43

really easy for her to look

37:45

you to dress and it's like i was

37:48

thinking that a watching

37:49

how hard it is for for

37:51

women and were like have such as

37:53

the the relationship with our bodies and then to

37:55

have the like a dueling

37:58

bachelorette that doesn't

37:59

have that problem of having like figure out how

38:02

to like fit your you know big boobs and

38:04

to address it's gotta just feel

38:06

like i would feel so self conscious of he

38:08

says stressed about that feeling of you

38:10

like what if she will sort of i looked are

38:12

you know it even rachel's really beautiful and says

38:14

they're quit by i've harped a lot

38:16

i'm like how bad our style is it's like not

38:18

her fault

38:19

like it she thinks she looks good i

38:21

feel bad that unlike shield city subway

38:23

the same time as i think you're right like there's

38:25

just such like a complex as

38:27

being i think so many people particularly women have

38:29

to complex listen to their body how they dress

38:32

the then having to like be stacked up against someone

38:34

else the watching her cell fact that must be

38:37

oh really grew morning and

38:39

like yeah listen guys also really

38:41

you know particular about what they like

38:43

what they don't like and so

38:45

all the sudden you know a handful of guys are

38:47

saying i'm here for the other girl

38:49

and

38:50

you're on camera in front of a billion

38:52

people and you're like kill me right

38:54

now that i have to deal with the is and

38:56

like feel awkward my body finally seems

38:59

as if you awkward in her life you

39:01

love how she likes of so i'm really happy for her

39:03

i just think the like he did faggot they

39:05

can improve or style i also watching

39:08

is like the list serves the the gulf

39:10

between their styles so huge

39:12

and who am i ask them for the be like matchy

39:14

matchy and money to ask them to be like a girl group

39:16

like kinda still little bit more coordinated

39:19

like that they were

39:21

going with like

39:22

the a crew catalog she and for this

39:25

cocktail party we are going with like

39:27

surveil as a like utter know i can

39:29

i just like who are in a more it really bothers

39:32

me i have to say that i

39:34

really like see able to see their personalities

39:36

in their else at so i like to see the differences

39:38

like i like to see like okay rachel clearly

39:41

more like a small town girl and

39:43

she has only found her style yet and gabi

39:45

the little older and she's sort of like found her cool

39:47

girl vibe and so i'm always

39:49

curious like

39:50

how the guys react to the

39:52

a different vibe that they bring to the table and

39:55

how

39:57

you know how they choose their outfit and so much

39:59

about the the person the way you dress shirt

40:02

yeah

40:04

the nightly and getting we can learn about lot about

40:06

you from favor daughter i think

40:08

so i'm you sarah and i

40:11

you know both

40:12

right we try to make things that we both

40:14

like but it doesn't always happen so

40:16

there are times where we have fights

40:18

and thera love something and i'm like their that so

40:20

cheesy and i lose out and then i'm like

40:22

okay well my name's on it so i that are bracelet

40:26

a and there's and there's for the

40:28

have of the same way the opposite so

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oh we did have to hope that we represent two

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different kinds of they're all than that

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were both in and you know the something for

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it one

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have you on for selling them some kind

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of fashioned it would have been so fun through

40:43

the absurd amounts for us to come back

40:44

i mean not her back of either the first session

40:48

can we were playing for hillary duff

40:51

so rude whatever

40:53

without without yet was the slate yeah

40:56

i forgot about that you care about clayton

40:58

susie anymore

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no it's so funny cause it's

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like my whole world of focus on the people

41:03

when it's on and in utah three six months later

41:05

i couldn't even hear the names of people that were on the show

41:07

them previous season couldn't tell you now

41:10

a friend of isis is as he just drags

41:12

the folders trash amazon is literally

41:14

five so much is is very

41:17

close how i feel i really dislike forget

41:20

i i

41:23

i did so really care about them care you following any

41:25

other bats are nation gossip like how much to keep

41:27

up with what's going on going the nice

41:29

i don't think i follow that deeply i mean

41:32

i follow amanda her son is from not

41:34

skinny but not that i feel like she kind of

41:36

keeps the up to date

41:38

on who the thing there was recently some kind of like

41:40

scandals break up with them when they michelle

41:42

yeah michelle the bouncer at broke up with

41:45

ne yeah they the people who think

41:47

you probably heard this we thought the hot drama

41:49

as neck miles of the center of it he

41:51

was like having a fight with katie their sand

41:53

of faster at last yeah that yeah

41:56

and then

41:57

caitlin brazil and blake horseman both ways

42:00

and next sister and stuff

42:02

like now like net and on alive

42:06

i feel like you've created a different via

42:09

for bachelorette and bachelor seven he'll i kind

42:11

of cult says it like it is and like through

42:14

the bullshit like causes they

42:16

they controversial no way that feel the

42:18

early authentic them

42:20

yeah he also has created

42:22

has new that her himself and like physically

42:24

as well is that like so many tattoos last

42:26

year i year knob

42:28

the whole a whole new neck and are now face the

42:30

his are striving he's like the ryan

42:32

seacrest of reality tv or something was

42:35

, huge compliment harmless

42:37

very accomplished gentleman cel cla

42:39

that means that lot of i know i just

42:42

the latest thing ryan night controversial

42:44

at all but i'm but nexus

42:46

has found has way that he himself at

42:48

the center of every competition

42:50

i've talked about him and many podcasts

42:52

are easily sell here here we suffer fits

42:54

all this is still happening for next

42:57

ah what other reality shows you watch at the moment

42:59

ah i'm i am

43:02

what i'm a real vander pump fan but it like it's

43:04

college and enough it's done or if it's coming back

43:07

in a different forms you know where it's of sand

43:09

is just opened okay i

43:11

was wondering was wondering some post and

43:13

about that had a photo of them and i

43:15

didn't like noted about that that seem like a place

43:18

i supplied though have a meal that

43:20

isn't the franklin village i believe across from a scientology

43:23

ah like castle hundred side to drive

43:25

there

43:26

yeah okay get let [unk] report back

43:28

if you go let me know you can do a filter portland okay

43:30

great what's another what other reality shows

43:32

i watch and will want others dot a charm

43:35

the water entire

43:37

honestly you annoying as at not skinny when i thought

43:40

watches it ally and like city slides

43:42

i target

43:44

the real the real like that's my

43:46

only guilty pleasure like i don't feel guilty about

43:48

watching reality tv for my part of my job

43:50

and second of all that says entertainment the ah

43:53

but this is so guilty about as the people are like

43:55

so horrible

43:56

like there's a lot of them are are indefensible

43:58

by also like

43:59

that i look forward to watching it every night

44:02

my sister is in

44:05

england right now and she sent me a clip

44:07

from a tv so she's watching over there were

44:10

like a girl the on

44:13

the stage and then the you

44:15

like

44:16

guys are around and a half circle in front

44:18

of her and and like a gate comes up

44:20

in front of them are the shade and

44:22

it shows them full frontal like

44:24

is so slow yeah i've i've heard

44:26

about the south but i have i forget the name of that

44:28

she'll chooses had well as based on his penis

44:31

yeah really crazy i

44:35

could watch they go for in the uk

44:37

us love island

44:39

i feel like i'm against appointee

44:41

i can't either montana was just

44:43

telling me how good it as and that i watch

44:45

it oh i'm into love is blind

44:48

that we're now let's say like that

44:50

now

44:53

the are selling found that i was selling sunset

44:55

the only me or three is coming at the end of august and

44:58

grilling the new chase and oppenheim

45:00

was my real it or

45:01

haven't you have your how did he do the job

45:04

yeah i bought my on tone of with

45:06

him

45:07

the guy he got a for it's i will

45:09

say that i am like

45:11

devastated that the fashion world has

45:13

decided to take christine

45:15

seriously and bring her into the world i'm

45:17

very confused by that the new york times

45:19

profile she got

45:21

railing were like did see the

45:23

see like have an affair with someone like laugh

45:26

like didn't really weird or

45:28

hi holly mean i'm so confused as the house

45:30

me data

45:32

have you learned sort of my not fair she's

45:34

actually not a nice person yes i

45:36

agree i think it's like really bizarre to

45:38

reward people for being like horrendous

45:41

on reality tv and get that

45:43

i agree by also she doesn't have good style

45:45

shield like the tacky a sale ever

45:47

aggie house shows front row tacky

45:50

to me that says like evidence

45:52

that the fashion world is so

45:55

panic to be relevant until

45:57

hop on to whatever is culturally relevant

46:00

the reality tv and so they

46:02

think like okay guess we have to have on the front row and

46:04

only thinking if i'm anna wintour

46:06

and i'm seeing christine quinn

46:08

you see for me i'm like offended even

46:11

know who that is i hope for her sake she doesn't

46:14

and now you do i mean

46:16

i don't know how to kill the whole

46:18

you know like the elite

46:21

as a mom and my i gradually it's so

46:23

they sufism and lover yes is lucy

46:25

so exclusive and so aspiration

46:27

all and you're supposed

46:29

to have to like burn your place

46:32

the be invited to fashion show you know if you show

46:34

you how great style you're really

46:36

relevant you're like you add some like

46:38

cool flair to

46:40

and i'm doing something like new and

46:42

different or your innovating are you representing

46:44

a point the view or a group of people

46:46

a cousin that had access to a fashion

46:49

before and christina none of that

46:51

slow like i owed is

46:53

over

46:54

like an the ama chamberlain's of the world being

46:56

brought into fashion to she has really cute style

46:58

she's like funky and like real

47:00

and young and like plenty of the when she interviewed

47:03

people the mat and like her whole vibe is

47:05

like you and it totally makes sense and

47:07

it helped fashioned kind of like hey

47:09

at the forefront of pop culture and

47:12

christina know get that one

47:14

now to see me than dire that

47:16

valentino your idea of the week and says

47:19

historical i don't like it would be rewarded

47:21

for such awful behavior

47:23

she done that she doesn't have a

47:25

tornado season of a point of view

47:26

if she doesn't play

47:28

the that is right that yes not

47:30

not here for it

47:33

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time unisex second date magic

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okay the first is like pretty good so

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you know they'll build up my road

47:43

i will accept arose i am

47:45

here for the right reasons and one

47:48

i've

47:49

i'm on a family figures

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, gets around his for prisons episode thank you

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to implants hannah arendt team for coordinating

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this the making it happen and

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