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Welcome to Bachelor' Party. I'm JulietteLETman.

0:44

I'm joined today by two of my pals, Jody

0:46

Walker and Cali

0:47

Curry. Hi, friends. Welcome Hey,

0:50

Julie. We have

0:52

gathered here today because the

0:54

women of Zach's season

0:57

have been announced. Jody.

1:00

Please tell us about the

1:02

announcement to TikTok from last

1:04

night, and then I have

1:06

a follow-up, but please describe what happened.

1:09

You know, I was gonna be so professional. I

1:11

was gonna watch this TikTok live

1:14

after I got out of Pilates. So twenty minutes

1:16

I was gonna be that professional. I

1:18

log on to attempt to log on to this TikTok

1:21

live twenty minutes late and nothing

1:23

is happening. And I'm 'The, there are thirty 'The.

1:25

There's no way it's already over. Come

1:27

to find out and come to rewatch

1:29

on YouTube. The moment Jesse

1:31

Palmer attempts to get on TikTok live, which

1:33

is for some reason the platform that the bachelor

1:36

has now chosen to announce these

1:38

bios on. It sounds

1:40

like he is on, like, a stadium microphone.

1:43

It's, like, da da da da da da da da da. And now

1:45

we have Ali. Ali. And everyone's

1:47

trying to tell him that the audio is off. And it's

1:49

not working. Jesse 'The doesn't know how to

1:51

use TikTok live. He can't read the comments.

1:53

He doesn't know what's going on. He goes through

1:55

like ten 'The. And then finally, producer

1:58

comes in as like, we're gonna have to get off

2:00

while we figure this out. They come like,

2:02

forty five minutes later. I mean, this

2:04

whole process took, like, two

2:07

hours. And then, ultimately, it was

2:09

just him reading the bios,

2:12

like it always is, but, like, I think

2:14

he was so exhausted by this point

2:16

and, like, no one should be making Jesse Palmer

2:18

get on TikTok. That is not his 'The. That

2:21

he just he couldn't even add, like, any

2:24

additional flair. So

2:26

I would call it a chaotic disaster.

2:28

Do you think that Jesse likes

2:30

his job at this point. Like, what was

2:32

your vibe on on him? Yeah.

2:34

I think it's like a layup. What's not to

2:36

like? Like, it's just it's I it seems

2:39

so easy for 'The. You

2:41

know? He's just sitting there reading

2:44

bios. Like, who wouldn't want

2:46

that job? I I can't imagine he would

2:48

leave it. And unless, you

2:50

know, pursuing a passion. Sure.

2:52

I don't think it's so fun. If that's what

2:54

you're asking. Alright.

2:57

Well, I was gonna ask you if you hadn't always

2:59

planned to watch this, but now that I know you were planning

3:01

to join late, I I understand where

3:03

where your head's at. Cal, you look really

3:05

disturbed right now. Yeah. I mean,

3:07

I just didn't even know that this was a thing, but I

3:10

also don't think I've ever tuned

3:12

into TikTok live. And Yeah. Like, I didn't

3:14

see it so much good luck on TikTok. I

3:17

love TikTok, but, you know,

3:20

I'm I personally, it might be

3:22

I might be too old. TikTok live is not for me.

3:24

I no. I don't think people

3:26

really like live streaming actually in general except

3:29

for well, this is

3:31

dark. But, like, sometimes it's useful, like,

3:33

live streaming a crime or something can, like, save

3:35

lives or make a difference. But also That's

3:38

where thought you were going. But

3:40

you guys, I was gonna say. I just got interject.

3:42

People definitely watch TikTok

3:45

live. We do not watch TikTok live.

3:47

They did. I said I might be too

3:49

old. But I 'The, Kalle, I

3:51

was actually thinking about you last night as

3:53

I was attempting to get into this TikTok

3:55

live. I was like, Kalle should be doing this because 'The,

3:57

like, really out of my element. But when

4:00

I scroll TikTok, it's like, I'm

4:02

constantly getting, you know, lives

4:04

on my four use role that are just people

4:07

like watching sister wives at the same

4:09

time. That's a big big part of

4:11

live streaming on TikTok. I was like

4:13

watching shows. What

4:15

your 4U page is. That does not happen

4:17

to me on my I don't know what my 4U page is

4:19

either. I get on, like, every six days and it's usually

4:21

to research something for work, so it's pretty

4:24

chaotic. But I just think it's

4:26

so so strange that

4:28

the bachelor of all shows

4:30

would choose TikTok as

4:32

the 'The. Like, this is not a young

4:35

audience to 'The put it on

4:37

Instagram 'The. But why even

4:39

do it live? Put it on YouTube. Do

4:41

you know how I ultimately watch this TikTok

4:43

feed by watching another guy

4:46

watch it on YouTube? Because I'm millennial

4:48

and it was a terrible experience.

4:50

What did he think? What did the other guy think about

4:52

it? Nothing. There's nothing to

4:55

think about these bio reveals. Like, they literally

4:57

just read it. In fact, the funny his part

4:59

was 'The gonna his name is

5:02

his name is Dave Neil, and he seems to do

5:04

a lot of -- Oh, yeah. -- watching live streaming.

5:06

He's a he's like a bachelor influencer. He

5:09

had to be oh, really? He had

5:11

to be on screen for so

5:13

long that he had to, like, get a snack

5:15

in the middle of this like he was on for

5:17

two hours trying to get through this entire

5:19

thing. And so at one point, I had to watch him

5:22

eat cheese, which was personally very difficult

5:24

for me. But I do appreciate the effort

5:26

that he put into getting the

5:29

very boring TikTok to me. Yeah. Dave

5:31

me. Oh, like a big person in, like, Bachelor'

5:33

YouTube believe it or not. I

5:35

know that name. Well, you choose the

5:37

'The form. If TikTok

5:39

live is popular, which it absolutely

5:42

could be. It's just not for me. We

5:44

just don't know. I I can't imagine

5:47

it being like

5:50

the time frame usually being two

5:52

hours. Like, TikTok

5:54

is supposed to be short consumption. Oh,

5:57

yeah. The two hours was not

5:59

intentional. I think this was supposed

6:01

to be about thirty minutes

6:03

made up of such a disaster. Even that's

6:06

long, though. It it it

6:08

it certainly felt long. I should say that they

6:10

did the same thing last year.

6:12

And, yeah, it did produce the

6:15

or last for the men of Gabby

6:17

and Rachel season, and it did produce the funniest

6:19

moment of that season for me, which was

6:21

Jesse Palmer accidentally inviting

6:23

someone into the TikTok live

6:26

from the audience. Okay.

6:30

But it wasn't that this year. I think

6:32

about thirty or forty minutes. Yeah.

6:34

I don't have more people. Right? There's

6:37

there's a lot of gals for Zach. Like,

6:39

still quite a few. Let's see. We

6:41

got a lot of guys, ten, fifteen,

6:44

twenty, twenty five, twenty two,

6:47

twenty seven. We got thirty gals.

6:49

And that's what we're really here to do today. I

6:52

was gonna say, I know we haven't announced what we're gonna do,

6:54

but I now think

6:56

that Jody has an unfair advantage. From

6:59

watching this two hour long tick

7:01

tock. Oh, I don't know if I've made it incredibly

7:04

clear, but I stopped around letter

7:06

b in the girl's name. I couldn't I

7:08

I was there for the drama, but I could

7:10

not actually take listening to Jesse

7:13

just read the bios knowing that I

7:15

was then going to have to go back and read them my

7:17

self in order to reach out loud. You

7:20

know, I mean, he was adding in, like, a little

7:22

flare and a little, like, his

7:25

'The line was like, obviously, she's gorgeous.

7:27

It's like the what he would that's kind of like the

7:29

only interjection you can make is like,

7:31

let me now explain to you that she's very

7:33

pretty But other than that,

7:36

he was basically reading the fun facts.

7:38

Interesting. I 'The, Chris

7:40

Harrison used to try to, like, make it seem like

7:42

he personally knew everyone when he had this

7:45

gig, he'd be like, oh, an Ali.

7:47

You know, when Ali and I were on

7:49

a day off, in the 'The. We just

7:51

had such a great laugh or whatever. So I guess

7:53

they're just, like, stick to the script, Jesse. Interesting.

7:56

Well, yeah, we were at about our one

7:59

and a half by the time he was finally

8:01

live, so he had to get through it. So

8:03

today, usually Jody and I go through

8:05

the bio together. But today, we are going to

8:07

do something. Let's become somewhat common

8:10

here at the ringer and a wonderful

8:12

idea from our dear friend, Cali Curry,

8:14

we are going to do a snake draft

8:16

of our top five each

8:19

women of this season. And We

8:22

didn't really talk about criteria, so it's

8:24

five of the Wild West, decided

8:26

to hear why people are choosing them. I'm gonna

8:28

say, I'm just correct me if I'm

8:30

wrong. I feel like for Cali, it's gonna be based

8:32

mostly on looks because I know that you were cruising

8:34

their pictures last night. Jody,

8:36

I think it'll be based mostly on the fun facts,

8:39

based on your TikTok experience. And

8:41

for me, I don't even know how

8:43

I'm deciding. I just I was making was

8:45

reading through these gals briefly. And I

8:47

was just making some notes, starring some

8:49

people, and I'm pretty

8:51

excited to talk about it. So we're gonna do a snake

8:53

draft, which means Jodie, do

8:55

you wanna explain what snake draft is? How

8:57

dare you, Julie? Yeah. You know, I don't know what a

9:00

snake draft is. I'm

9:02

gonna extremely anxious about having

9:04

to understand a draft, which I've done

9:06

no less than five times while working at

9:08

the ringer, and I still can't remember how they

9:10

work. A draft is a way of forming teams.

9:13

And you do so by picking from a

9:15

pool of available talent, whether that

9:17

is individuals or whatever. We are

9:19

picking from the thirty women on Zack

9:21

Shallcross's season of the Bachelor'. I believe this

9:23

is season forty two or

9:25

forty three, which is horrifying. It's

9:28

season twenty seven. Season

9:31

Is it Bachelor'? Sorry. You're right. I was thinking

9:33

of survivors. Survivors. Yeah. It's

9:37

season twenty seven. And

9:40

we will be choosing from his thirty girls. We'll each

9:42

choose five in snake order, which means

9:44

the person who goes first We'll

9:46

then also go sixth. So

9:49

it goes 12332123321,

9:54

blah, blah, blah, like it's 'The. Like you're playing

9:56

snake on your old Nokia phone. Remember

9:59

that game? Here are

10:01

some things I would like you to keep in mind when you make

10:03

selection to the extent you remember who any of these people

10:05

are based on your cursory review.

10:07

We want people who are gonna make an impact. So does

10:10

it have to be a positive impact? No. Just gonna

10:12

be negative impact? Sure. We're looking

10:14

for the chineyes. We're looking for the suisies.

10:16

We're looking for the gabbies. We're looking for

10:18

the sierras. Like, people who are

10:20

gonna give us sound bites and 'The, and

10:22

probably make it pretty far. So

10:25

we will have an arbitrary review

10:28

as we get deeper into Zach's season of who

10:30

we feel won this draft. Perhaps

10:33

we'll come up with scoring. That's all TBD. We're

10:35

making it up as we go along. Eric,

10:37

our producer is going to unveil the

10:39

order shortly. But first, I just wanted to

10:41

take a quick look together at Zach's

10:44

biography. I'm gonna read you a few selections,

10:46

Jesse Palmer style, and Bill review.

10:48

But this is gonna be brief because as we all know,

10:50

Zach is very boring, which is why it's hard to believe

10:52

his bio on the page is four paragraphs

10:54

long. Even if one paragraph is only

10:57

one sentence. So 'The I begin?

10:59

Also, Jody, do you understand? I

11:01

do understand. I have some push

11:03

back against the criteria, but I think I'll just

11:05

get into it with my my selection of

11:08

gals. Okay. Fantastic. Zack,

11:12

we wanna talk about him. Here are

11:14

some selections from his bio. Following an emotional

11:17

realization about his future with Rachel,

11:20

Shallcross's won Nation's affection

11:22

when he made the diff difficult decision

11:24

to end his journey on the Bachelorette. Do

11:26

you guys know anyone who was won over by

11:28

Zach's time on the bachelorette. Literally

11:31

anyone. No. I believe affection

11:33

for Zach got, like, increasingly less

11:35

as the season went on. Okay,

11:38

great. Here's the one sentence paragraph that

11:40

I wanted to highlight. He's

11:43

the bachelor and they say, right. The

11:45

announcement was made by host Jesse Palmer

11:47

during the emotional life nally of Gabby

11:49

Windy and Rachel Rekke a season of the bachelorette.

11:52

Do the producers of the Bachelor' and the writers

11:54

of this bio think that we all have amnesia or

11:57

we like just men and black ourselves and

11:59

don't remember what happened? Because Yeah.

12:01

We know he's the bachelor and also no one cares

12:03

and it wasn't emotional. I

12:06

think that they must think that

12:08

people like him because why the fuck did they pick

12:10

him otherwise? Yeah. III

12:13

don't know. I just don't know because they're

12:15

Even you're like, oh, there's no other options. Like, yes,

12:17

there were. Go outside the box. Back at

12:19

the truck for Tyler 'The. Like, I I don't know.

12:21

There's so many options. Back up to

12:23

Chuck for Rodney. Back up to

12:25

Chuck for Nate. There's so many

12:28

fucking people. It obviously should have

12:30

been Rodney. So stupid. Okay.

12:32

Next. It says Also,

12:35

yes. So you don't even have to back up the

12:37

truck for the last two. You're gonna have to back up the

12:39

truck for Tyler. For

12:41

Rodney and 'The,

12:43

you probably just need to pull up in a Honda.

12:47

Pull up in a RAV four. They'll

12:49

happily get it. Bring them in

12:51

a lecture graph for. They're really hard to get,

12:53

so they'll be happy to just jump on in.

12:55

And I know because I'd like one. It

12:57

look good for the environment. Yeah.

12:59

Exactly. Alright. Then it says he's

13:01

a family man at heart and he splits his time

13:04

between Texas and Orange County. Question.

13:07

Do you think they're trying to telegraph that he's fairly

13:09

conservative or that's just fact he splits

13:11

his time between Texas and Orange County? I

13:14

did not take it as they were trying to telegraph.

13:16

He was fairly conservative. I was

13:19

just shocked by that 'The. Like, we've

13:21

we've never heard that. That he

13:23

lives in Texas. Right? Never. Yes.

13:25

Never. Although it's a brand new there for

13:27

his hometown, they may have. think that No.

13:29

They were in California. Oh, they were. His

13:31

family is from California. Remember,

13:33

his uncle is drunk from the

13:35

emperor's new group. Of course.

13:40

I don't know if they were trying to telegraph that, but

13:42

also that's like a big distance.

13:45

I know. That's like me saying, like, I slept my

13:47

time between here and New Mexico

13:50

where I've actually I mean, I actually

13:52

do split my time between New York and

13:54

Texas. And I was thinking what would that

13:56

say? I think what they're

13:59

actually trying to telegraph is that 'The.

14:01

I think he lives in Texas right now. After

14:03

the bachelor, he will obviously move

14:05

to LA just like everyone else and they're just trying

14:07

to get out in front of that. Like -- Mhmm. -- when he

14:10

moves to LA, he's not becoming an influencer.

14:12

He's actually moving back to his family life because

14:14

he's such a family man. That's like,

14:16

really what they're going for and all these bios

14:19

are like, she just wants a family. She's ready

14:21

to have a baby, and Zach is such 'The man.

14:24

I don't know. Orange County is specific

14:26

though. Yeah. That's just

14:28

where he's from. Yeah. He's just

14:31

at home. Orange. Yeah, it's for 'The and

14:33

I. There also was a lot of Disney in

14:35

these bios, like, oh, I love Disney. Zach

14:37

Downey and Zach must

14:40

love Disneyland. And I have to say, this is one of the

14:42

weirdest things about Californians of whom I have

14:44

many in my life that I love dearly. Southern

14:46

Californians in particular fucking love

14:48

Disneyland. It's just like, it's

14:50

a pathology. It's so hard

14:53

to explain. I would never ever

14:55

want to be 'The identified as, like, loving

14:57

Disneyland, but it's a it's a thing.

14:59

And I I rely on Disney adults a

15:01

lot, but it's it's a thing. Are

15:04

Disneyland adults the same as 'The World adults?

15:07

No. No. Okay. Because Disney World

15:09

is light years better than

15:11

Disneyland. It makes the Disneylanders even

15:14

more unexplainable. But

15:18

it's a real thing. Right? Like, people just like, their

15:20

Californians love Disneyland. Living

15:23

in LA, the amount of grown ups,

15:25

I know, that had, like,

15:27

this this the yearly park pass

15:30

pass. Pass. Yeah. It's

15:33

insane. I know. When I worked ESPN,

15:35

one of the parks, so that you could bring people to Disneyland

15:38

for free, And, like, there was

15:40

many people who wanted to go. Unfortunately,

15:42

okay. Unfortunately, I had to go with them,

15:44

which was the bad part, but whatever. Okay.

15:48

Lastly, it says 'The is where the heart is. And with

15:50

the Bachelor' 'The not too far away, Shallcross's

15:52

is eager to begin his journey back home in

15:55

Southern California. So, I mean,

15:57

you think you're right, Jody. They're just like, this is a

15:59

this is a this is a future Angelino, if

16:01

not already. He just can't wait. Can't wait.

16:03

Where Texas can't wait to all this.

16:06

'The he lives in Texas.

16:08

Like, I think for some reason, like, they were,

16:10

I think or maybe he moved

16:12

there in between. He's I think

16:15

his jagged job is he's a

16:17

tech executive. Like, thank you for

16:19

bringing that up. I was recently watching season

16:21

three of Emily in Paris. Did you guys watch that?

16:24

No. No. Couldn't do it.

16:26

Shearer first to herself as a marketing executive.

16:29

And I feel the word executive has gotten really

16:31

watered down and like, applied

16:33

to a lot of people. I don't think that

16:36

Zach's in charge of anything. Like, I don't think he's

16:38

an executive. I think perhaps he has a job,

16:40

which is great. But, like, let's let's

16:42

reuse the word executive property. Neither

16:44

Emily Cooper in Paris nor Zach

16:47

Shallcross's in Texas are executives by

16:49

my definition of the term. I'm gonna

16:51

start calling myself a journalist executive.

16:53

I think it just gives it more flavor. So

16:56

give me the idea. Also, And

16:59

don't know why I can't, like, move past this,

17:01

but, like, obviously, the pick for

17:03

bachelor was just so strange and

17:05

how most leads end up being

17:08

like, influencers. Like,

17:11

Zach does not give

17:13

influencer at

17:15

all. I feel like he'd What does Aileen struggle?

17:19

I think what Zac gives is, like,

17:21

maybe someone who will actually successfully

17:26

engage, you know, become a fiance

17:28

at the end of this and his wife or

17:30

his fiance will be a strong influencer

17:32

and he will be a part of a couple influencer

17:35

package. I think that is like the

17:37

absolute best possible

17:40

scenario for Zach. That's like as well as

17:42

it could possibly end. I think

17:44

he could do that if all he has to do is

17:46

pose. He's not gonna be in a video

17:50

person. He's gonna be on the TikTok line

17:52

or ten. Ten years ago was his

17:54

'The. Like, to be big on Instagram. I

17:57

could see what's that doing like I

17:59

could see Zach going the Jesse Palmer route.

18:03

Like, some sort of news Hosting the

18:05

'The. Oh, no. No. No. No. No. No.

18:07

Prior prior to this. But, I mean, like,

18:09

he get like, his voice everything is

18:11

very new castory. Mhmm.

18:14

I could see it being a letter 'The reader.

18:17

Yes. Yeah. On your local news.

18:19

I could see that. Mhmm. Especially the one

18:21

I don't see Zach. What his Zach's path

18:23

out of his bed? What if he became a weather

18:25

man? In in Orange County

18:27

or Texas? Or both. Yeah.

18:30

Orange County. By Coastal Weatherman.

18:34

I mean, I don't know what his future is.

18:36

I can't think of a Bachelor', like,

18:38

that I would be less excited about than

18:40

Zach. III hope that getting into these

18:43

girls is gonna help me bring bring my

18:45

excitement level for him to Bachelor' higher.

18:49

On that note, Shall we begin our draft?

18:52

I guess, Erica. Hit

18:54

us with the order.

18:58

Alright. So going up first is

19:03

Jodie. Wow. Okay.

19:08

Okay. Well, this is a great

19:10

opportunity, and thank you, Erica, to

19:13

say that my criteria for drafting

19:15

these women is is

19:17

not the kind of impact they

19:19

have. Will they be areneur and make it to the

19:21

end? It's will Zach pick them? Like,

19:23

how are they a match

19:26

For Zach, to the extent that

19:28

we know Zach and understand what

19:30

he would like. To this point, we know

19:33

that he would like a

19:35

Rachel until he would not like a Rachel

19:37

at which point he will leave the show. So

19:40

my first pick is pretty

19:43

'The. My reasoning

19:45

is pretty simple. It is Katie

19:47

twenty 7ER nurse,

19:50

traveling e r nurse. Who

19:52

lives in Austin, Texas. First

19:55

of all, I have to say I believe

19:58

that I have I understand

20:00

and have seen every spelling of the

20:02

name Katie until each new season

20:04

of the Bachelor', which introduces me

20:06

to a new spelling of Katie. This

20:09

is KAITY, Katie.

20:12

And my reasons are this. She's

20:14

Canadian. Check.

20:16

Canadians do very well on the bachelor.

20:20

Zach has a real Canadian energy about

20:22

him despite being from Orange County and

20:24

also tech as well established. Number

20:27

two, she's an insult to Canada.

20:29

I'm sorry. I don't agree and I think that's an

20:31

insult. I I should probably say for

20:33

the record that while I was not excited

20:36

about Zach as a pick for bachelor, I think

20:38

I have a higher opinion of him

20:40

than the other bachelor

20:42

party crew here, my greatest

20:44

desire for him is just to be nice guy.

20:46

Like, to just to just handle

20:49

this well and not like destroy

20:51

anyone's psyche during the process. And

20:53

I think maybe he can do

20:55

it. I think the season rides on these

20:57

'The. But actually, he's like a pretty simple

21:00

guy and nice.

21:02

This is there was one line from 'The bio that's

21:04

eliminated and hurt for me. Katie

21:06

enjoys 'The, but hates that sharks may be

21:08

slimming underneath her. I just

21:11

'The like, Katie. I also read that. I

21:13

just think there's ways there's ways for her to avoid

21:15

that. Every time you're swimming. There's not sharks present.

21:17

She's like, where is she swimming if this is such

21:20

a concern? I don't know. I I'm

21:22

really I'm a shark expert because I watched one

21:24

special on the National Geographic Channel called

21:26

Shark Beach with Chris 'The. So I think she should

21:28

share that. And then she could get back

21:31

to us. This is a good pick,

21:33

but I just I don't know.

21:35

Something about Katie just didn't grab my attention,

21:37

but perhaps I'm wrong. Well, so I'm

21:39

not saying she grabbed my attention. I'm

21:42

saying Zach's gonna marry her. She's

21:44

a travel nurse. That's like one

21:46

of the coolest while

21:48

also being most wholesome jobs.

21:51

There are a lot of nurses in this cast

21:53

and she is a travel nurse

21:55

which brings, like, a little bit of a new element

21:58

to it. She's from Canada, but she lives

22:00

in Austin. Like, these are good bachelor

22:02

places. And most importantly,

22:05

She got four fun facts, while

22:07

everyone else got three. And that leads

22:09

me to believe that the Bachelor' interns or whoever

22:11

writes these bios and whoever absolutely

22:14

made up so that she enjoys 'The, but

22:16

as scared that sharks are underneath her, there's almost

22:18

no chance that she actually said that. She may

22:20

be stopping once and passing. She 'The,

22:22

like, mentioned being scared of sharks and

22:24

they were like, 'The put a little spin on

22:26

this. Did they want us to know lot

22:28

about her? These are my reasons and

22:30

I'm sticking to them. Okay? Fair enough.

22:33

will I will say that Katie was in my top five,

22:35

so Wow. Wow.

22:38

Is Zoe okay? Erica,

22:40

who's up next? Alright. Up

22:42

next is Cali. Awesome.

22:45

Really wanted this person. I

22:48

too chose

22:50

my pick based off

22:52

of who I think Zach is going to pick.

22:55

Then Juliet threw me for a loop

22:57

at the beginning of this podcast podcasting

23:00

we should go with highest impact. So

23:02

I quickly jotted

23:04

down a naughty list.

23:06

So I have a naughty list. I

23:09

have a naughty list and a nice list. But

23:11

for my first pick, we're gonna stick to the nice

23:13

list since my number one pick is still available.

23:16

And I 'The going to go with Becca.

23:20

Becca. Okay. Interesting.

23:23

Why? Mhmm. So

23:26

a couple of reasons. One, I

23:28

went through this and last

23:31

night when I did DM, think was a

23:33

DM Juliet. And I was like, let's

23:35

do a draft. Based off

23:37

of looks alone. think that's what I originally

23:39

said. And then when

23:42

I did this, I did not do this. I

23:44

read every fucking bio. And

23:48

I, the one thing that kind of 'The

23:50

me one way or another, was occupation.

23:53

And I think that Zach

23:55

is gonna be drawn to women

23:58

in the medical field. I feel like

24:00

he wants to be taken care of. think

24:02

he wants someone who takes care of others.

24:06

It seemed with Rachel that he, like, kind of

24:08

was into her having a job that was, like,

24:10

semi demanding and she was career

24:12

focused 'The field that's usually

24:14

the case. Also,

24:16

the very first line of Becca's

24:19

biography is 'The. Becca

24:23

is incredible. That's all

24:25

it says. 'The you know what, those are just facts. We

24:27

have to believe them. Those are just match my

24:29

eye as well. And

24:31

I was like, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. Producer

24:33

so many. Space. So many

24:35

of these bios opened with, like,

24:38

Amy is outstanding. This

24:41

is not from their from their questionnaires

24:44

that they have to fill out, but I buy it.

24:47

Kelly, this guy was not even

24:49

on my short list, but she's

24:51

from Burbank, California. Another

24:54

city over great. Another city closely

24:56

aligned with Disney. So I

25:00

also It says that she's

25:02

a sucker for forbidden romance novels,

25:05

and I feel like, like,

25:07

it just just aligns with Zach's per seasonality.

25:09

Mhmm. You know? Mhmm. Like,

25:12

he looks like he could be on the cover of a romance

25:14

novel? Yeah. The only thing

25:17

which think we discussed, I think that Zach

25:19

sentence was set on this podcast

25:21

before. That Zach looks like he could be on the cover of

25:23

a romance novel, or maybe Rachel said it.

25:25

Someone said it. The only

25:27

thing that threw me for a loop with Becca is

25:29

that she said that she wants

25:31

someone to be who isn't afraid

25:33

to be goofy 'The. And

25:35

I was like, I don't know if Zach

25:38

gives goofy, but

25:40

maybe when the cameras

25:42

are off, he has to do something

25:44

because even for him to get as far as he did in

25:47

a Bachelor' I'm like he has to be giving

25:49

something that we're not seeing. I think

25:51

Zach wants to be goofy. think he'd be

25:53

happy to have someone to, like, help

25:55

him get in touch with that, but he himself is not

25:57

currently goofy. I find

25:59

that people who use the word goofy and

26:02

desire for it. Simply mean, like, I wanna

26:04

giggle a lot, and Zach is a big

26:06

giggler. There was, like, a ten minute montage

26:09

scene of him and Rachel trying on hats.

26:11

Like, That is what people who

26:13

use the word goofy, think of as being goofy.

26:15

Like, I just wanna try on hats with somebody

26:18

for twenty minutes and have a good time.

26:20

So, like, in that sense, I think he's a little

26:22

goofy. Well,

26:25

that is my number one pick and I'm sticking

26:27

to it. Okay. have a quick clarifying

26:30

question. Sure. We already set it. How many

26:32

people do we get on our team? How many we live?

26:34

Five For each fifteen, five. So half

26:36

of the gals will be spoken for. Also,

26:38

is anyone writing down our teams? I just wanna

26:40

make sure that we I am. Okay. Great.

26:42

I I got you covered. As

26:45

the as the 'The semi

26:47

host of this, I feel it's my responsibility. Okay.

26:50

Taking a page out of Cali's book, I'm going

26:52

one dotty and one nice. First,

26:55

I will be go for unveiling my high volume,

26:57

high impact pick. My my

26:59

important starter, though

27:02

I don't think he'll be marrying this person. Is

27:04

Holland. She's twenty four insurance

27:07

marketer from Boca Raton, Florida.

27:09

I mean, there's something up her favorite

27:12

TV show is the bachelor. That's one of the three

27:14

bullet points. She knows how the game is played

27:16

and she is here to be on camera.

27:18

I think that Holland is going to be our

27:20

chanee. I look forward to seeing her in paradise

27:23

next 'The, and I'm ready to

27:25

get acquainted with her and just embrace

27:27

her in my life knowing that I probably will find her

27:29

very annoying. She also says she loves

27:31

yachting with her girls, which begs the question

27:33

of is she yachting frequently? Is

27:35

that just like a bokeh thing? How big is this

27:37

yach? Is she gonna go on below deck? Does she

27:39

have just a lot of aspirations of

27:42

being a Yati? Like, what are we what are we talking

27:44

about here? So I think Holland is here

27:46

to make an impact. She also does

27:48

a lot of pilates and I feel like also usually

27:50

means a lot of vamping for the

27:52

camera. And she's looking for

27:55

a man who can keep up with her energy, so she's coming

27:57

in hot. Holland, you're on my

27:59

team. Holland's bio is

28:01

like a Bingo card for the bath bachelor.

28:04

It's like Pilates. Susie

28:06

loves yachting with the girls and

28:08

watching the bachelor. Can

28:11

I think it also is probably gonna ruin someone's

28:13

life on the shelf. Definitely. Pilates,

28:17

sushi, yachting with the girls and

28:19

watching the sounds

28:21

like an amazing life. I'm not

28:23

mad at it. At all. At

28:26

all. I will say that yachting is is kind

28:28

of like Florida thing. So I wouldn't take that

28:30

that I don't think it's that big of a deal. People like, if

28:32

you live on the coast, you probably are on

28:35

a yacht a lot. Right.

28:37

Well, people with

28:39

privilege anyways. I'm sure she is

28:41

from a nice area. Even if she's not,

28:44

she's trying to make us 'The like she's

28:46

Like, I feel like she's trying to make it seem like she's got like a

28:48

like a very comfortable life and she's just

28:50

like, here to mix it up with Zach.

28:53

I will say that in my frantic

28:56

jotting of naughty list, Holland was number

28:58

two on my naughty list. So

29:00

we have similar thinking, Juliet. Let's

29:03

let it hear it. Alright. And now my nice

29:05

gal who think will go far. Brooklyn,

29:09

the rodeo racer who is not actually a

29:11

rodeo racer, she's twenty five 'The

29:14

'The, and she actually works for an oral surgeon.

29:16

She is a lab designer where

29:19

for an oral surgery practice where she custom

29:21

designs teeth or life changing dental

29:24

procedures. It just seems like

29:26

the kind of thing. It's like, oh, that's really sweet. She's

29:28

changing lives. Never like reminds me

29:30

of Gabler on survivor. He was like,

29:32

he's like, he's not actually,

29:35

like, part of the surgery, but he's

29:37

like, in the room or like nearby.

29:40

And It's like a tiny petite

29:42

blonde woman reminding you of Gabe

29:44

like, survivors like,

29:47

peek Juliet. She's

29:51

also like a down home like rodeo.

29:54

She's heated racing, and

29:56

she just seems like she's very, like, pleasant,

29:59

but has, like, some weird facts. And

30:01

think that tends to get you far on this

30:03

show. Yeah. This tiny petite

30:05

little girl also loves the starter day with a breakfast

30:07

burrito. I'm not sure how Love how -- we all

30:09

do that is. I also love a breakfast burrito,

30:12

but I think it's more believable for when

30:14

I say it. I

30:17

really liked her bio. It

30:19

had, like, a lot of zigs and zags like

30:22

'The of being a rodeo cow girl also

30:24

designs teeth. I just think the idea

30:26

of designing teeth seems

30:29

Great. Wasn't she one of the the

30:31

after the final rose girls? And didn't she drop

30:33

the f bomb on accident? Was that her?

30:35

I don't remember. It was a blonde

30:38

'The. But it I mean,

30:40

okay. I blocked I blocked all that

30:42

out. So it's one of

30:44

fourteen. Because

30:47

of 'The. Alright, Cali. It's back to

30:49

you. Yeah. Can I just say I really

30:51

like my position here? like being two in

30:53

a in a three person snake draft. 'The

30:56

really happy with you. Okay.

30:58

I guess oh, should

31:00

I go with my naughty or nice list?

31:03

I think by naughty person is gonna be here

31:05

for the next time around because Jody

31:09

didn't play that way. So 'The

31:11

this is my strategy. Oh, I'm not gonna

31:13

focus on my

31:16

nice list who I'm trying to find right

31:18

now and can't find her bio. It

31:20

is Oh, they're alphabetical.

31:22

That makes it a lot easier. My

31:26

next is Olivia l. Oh,

31:29

okay. Tell us why

31:32

patient care tax is still

31:34

in the medical field. She

31:37

loves Grace 'The, which I two

31:40

have watched every single episode of Grey's Anatomy up

31:42

until this last season. I've

31:44

seen every episode. Have we never talked about this?

31:47

I don't know what you watched. I still

31:49

want. That is that's literally insane

31:51

that you guys could have never talked about this.

31:57

Julia, you, like, are able to relate

31:59

so many things to Grey's Anatomy, how

32:01

it has never come up? I don't know. Bachelor'

32:04

I don't think I've ever heard you even talk about

32:06

Grey's Anatomy. I fucking love it. I talk

32:08

about it all the time. I've never I mean, yeah,

32:10

I've I've never 'The an episode, probably one of

32:12

the happiest moments of pandemic was when

32:15

Derek Shepherd appeared on my TV and I just started

32:17

weeping alone in my apartment. So

32:19

I was 'The was a it was dark day. I

32:22

think I talked about how I cried once on a

32:24

plane, which I didn't know that you cried

32:26

more on planes, and I watched the episode

32:29

where he died on the plane.

32:31

And it was really not you guys. Right. 'The brother

32:33

was so embarrassed. Well,

32:36

if you don't know that, then, like -- Okay. --

32:38

I don't know what to tell you. But loves

32:40

Grey's Anatomy, so that was like a big king,

32:43

like big star for me. Also, she

32:46

used to be a basketball player, which I

32:49

didn't think that by looking at her. She's a

32:51

little on the young side, but I think that might be

32:53

good for herself. I think 'The a younger

32:55

woman. Yeah. Me too. I

32:59

think he needs a younger woman who's got a strong

33:01

personality, but he still

33:03

has, like, some, like, feeling of of,

33:05

like, superiorness to her. Like, he

33:07

stood all the way when she's, like, wanting up,

33:09

wanting her. Olivia's bio also

33:11

says that she will yell at people who litters,

33:14

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33:16

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34:30

A lot of emphasis on trash in these

34:32

bios, like, to the extent that, like, litter

34:34

and garbage doesn't often come up. It's come

34:36

up at least in the two of them, which

34:39

I found really weird, but okay.

34:42

Olivia l is very cute.

34:44

Like, her eye is literally sparkle.

34:47

Yeah. Also,

34:49

I was trying to think of the trailer. I feel like

34:52

I saw a lot of brunettes, so that was another

34:54

part of my strategy. Okay.

34:57

Cool. I wanna know 'The about her basketball

35:00

situation. I'm sure we'll find out more. Yeah.

35:02

They mentioned it like four times her biweekly, so I

35:05

know it's gonna come up. There's gonna be a all day for sure.

35:07

Definitely. She's 'The a family of jet

35:09

skiing 'The. That's cool. Also,

35:13

she's in Rochester in New York, which I also consider cool.

35:15

I think Upstate New York is, like, a badge

35:17

of honor. Yeah. Frank,

35:20

would you mind? Is it is it these days?

35:23

I don't know. It's a good question, but hope

35:26

'The Hamlin continues to improve. Just wanna mention

35:28

that. That Yes.

35:30

I agree with. I was more so thinking

35:32

on the Santos line of -- I

35:35

understand. -- questioning that.

35:38

Alright, Jody. Back to you for pick

35:41

number six and seven.

35:44

Oh, wow. 'The unprepared. We'll

35:46

see how this goes. You guys took

35:48

an Nadia NICE approach to your split.

35:50

I believe I have taken a one for

35:52

him, one for me approach. So,

35:56

Katie, is who I believe will be Zach's

35:58

future wife. The one for

36:00

me and my next pick is

36:03

'The, aged twenty four,

36:05

a nonprofit case manager from

36:08

Bloomfield, Iowa. Mercedes

36:11

has four jobs,

36:13

which is so many

36:15

jobs. And I've never found myself

36:18

actually wanting someone

36:20

to become an influencer after the

36:22

show. Like, I would love nothing more

36:25

than for her to funnel these

36:27

four jobs down into

36:30

one job. They also they say she's

36:32

from Bloomfield, Iowa, but they sneak in within

36:34

the biot within the bio that

36:36

she lives in Nashville -- Mhmm. -- big,

36:39

Bachelor' hub, big note

36:41

for possible success. And

36:45

much like Zach seems Canadian to me, he also

36:47

seems Midwestern to 'The. And

36:49

she is Midwestern. And

36:52

Yeah. That's it. Okay. I

36:55

just thought if you I think it's possible. You

36:57

didn't 'The, like, her her

37:00

best fun fact. Hit

37:02

hit me with it, Kelly. Mercedes

37:04

hobby is showing pigs at the oh,

37:07

Iowa State Fair. Sorry.

37:09

I just thought that would be evident from everything else

37:11

that I said. I

37:13

think I feared that she's too

37:15

interesting for Zach. She has four jobs

37:17

and she has hobbies. Like, can Zach

37:19

even compute what it is to have

37:21

so much substance? But once

37:23

you mentioned earlier, that

37:26

Zach it is a lifestyle, I

37:28

think. That Zach was very

37:30

into Rachel's career, and I had forgotten

37:32

that, but it's true. He really liked

37:35

that she was like successful and

37:37

ambitious. She liked that he liked

37:39

that about her. And I

37:41

do This is what I think Zach thinks

37:44

Hugh. This is what Zach wants, an

37:46

older woman, which is not Mercedes, but I

37:48

think he wants an older woman who

37:51

is ambitious and successful. I

37:54

think that probably what's

37:56

gonna happen is a younger

37:58

woman. Mhmm. But I think it will be

38:00

successful. We'll just, you know, have to wait and

38:02

see how the influencer couple lifestyle goes.

38:05

Sure. I also like that she says her love language

38:07

is giving and receiving gifts. Nothing like putting

38:09

that up there out there on day one. I'd better

38:11

be getting shit, dude. Oh, yeah.

38:14

I meant to I meant to note that I am

38:16

so fascinated by people whose love

38:18

language is receiving gifts.

38:21

I think I can, like, wrap my around people

38:23

whose love language is giving gifts.

38:26

But, like, receive it's not

38:28

it's not a problem. It's just interesting.

38:30

It's just so far from my own love

38:33

language that I I don't

38:35

know what it means to receive love when

38:37

I'm given an iPad. But I like it

38:39

as I'm

38:41

very interested in Mercedes. 'The

38:43

to someone who is love language is receiving gifts.

38:47

It's the best love language for someone to

38:49

communicate to. It's so easy to

38:51

give gifts. Yeah. It's so easy. It's pretty black and

38:53

white. I can I can be, like, walking

38:55

home from the grocery store and pass a book store

38:58

that has a cool bookmark and pick it up and,

39:00

like, really makes his day. But

39:02

it's so that's really sweet. Easy.

39:05

It's so easy. Whereas

39:08

'The are words of 'The and

39:10

don't think you can never get enough. Like,

39:12

I'm not told how amazing I am every day.

39:15

It's an issue. And you'll better

39:17

say it the right way Correct.

39:21

Gift is just so much easier I feel.

39:24

Alright. Very sweet. Alright. Jodie,

39:26

give us your next pick. Okay. I

39:29

I was not prepared for

39:31

my next pick, but I'm just gonna go I

39:33

do not I've heard you say snake drop a

39:35

number of times, but it did not for fear

39:37

me. I'm

39:40

gonna go with my wild card, which

39:42

means there's basically one reason for picking

39:44

her. And that person is

39:48

I'm nervous. You're gonna pick the person I want.

39:50

'The too. Charity.

39:53

Age twenty six. Charity

39:56

'The therapist. From

39:58

Columbus Georgia. I

40:00

know. Could not be more

40:03

excited by the idea of

40:05

having a therapist in

40:07

the cast of the bachelor.

40:09

It's like a canary in the coal mine.

40:11

Like, I just I love

40:13

the idea that she can be like, tracking

40:16

what's happening on a behavioral level.

40:18

I think y'all have done enough pods with

40:20

me at this point to know that I'm like very

40:22

obsessed with human behavior. And

40:25

that's like the best reason to watch

40:27

the bachelor's to be like, what is going

40:30

on here? Why are these people making

40:32

the decisions that they're 'The. And

40:34

I know that being a therapist is not this

40:36

cut and dry, but charity's gonna know.

40:38

She's gonna know why people are doing the

40:41

things that they're doing, and she's gonna know why Zach's

40:43

doing the stuff he's doing, and maybe she can help.

40:45

I think this is a good pick. Because I think

40:47

they'll she'll be high 'The, but I'd like

40:49

to give you a counterpoint. Do you remember

40:51

Taylor from Nick? I do remember Taylor.

40:54

Taylor was also, like, in this in

40:57

the therapy world. And Taylor was

40:59

not well liked and did not use her insight

41:01

and skills to get people to like her.

41:04

So it can really go both ways. Let

41:06

me count on your count high impact. Taylor

41:08

was She was high impact. So I have that

41:10

going for me. Taylor was twenty three and

41:12

she was pursuing her PHD. Cherity

41:15

is an active therapist, a

41:18

child and family therapist. So

41:20

I just think she may have a few

41:22

more skills that Taylor did

41:25

not have at the time. We'll see. And

41:27

she just she seems nice. And I think,

41:30

yes, Charity wants to move

41:32

to Walt Disney World one day. So

41:36

I don't know how that works. I don't know

41:38

how that works, but it definitely seems

41:40

within the realm of possibility with Zach.

41:44

Oh, man. Okay. Cali, you're

41:46

up. Okay. I'm gonna go off my naughty

41:48

list. Nice. This

41:50

person, I think they're gonna be high impact

41:52

either way. And my pick is gonna

41:55

be for Christina 'The. That's

41:57

who I wanted to take next. I'm pissed.

42:01

She is on my naughty list for

42:04

a few and I don't know if I wanna call this naughty

42:06

list. But whatever. High impact list

42:08

for maybe not the reason to

42:10

that, I think, they're gonna get married. I do not Not the

42:12

wrong reason to worry, Jack. Yeah.

42:15

Wrong reasons list. Content

42:17

creator biggest lag ever.

42:19

Like, come up with another job title. Like,

42:21

you can't say that you're a content creator and come

42:23

on this show. Huge red flag

42:25

there. Agreed. Secondly, I

42:29

and I don't know if it's because it said

42:32

Texas to Orange County, but

42:34

Zach to me reads very

42:36

traditional. And

42:40

conservative 'The and

42:43

content creator with a child

42:46

that's divorced I don't

42:48

think fits into the the

42:50

box that Zach probably has

42:52

in his head for a woman that he wants.

42:55

That being said, she's

42:58

really fucking pretty. She has

43:00

definitely has some sex appeal.

43:03

And 'The

43:05

she is a great 'The. And she

43:07

likes cross fit. So I can see Zach

43:10

liking her and taking her far,

43:12

her causing drama in the group, and

43:15

Zach ultimately not picking her because he doesn't

43:17

she doesn't pick all his boxes

43:19

or whatever you would like to call it. It's a

43:21

it's a great pick, Cali. I'm I'm jealous.

43:23

This is really who I wanted next?

43:26

Also, crucially, she too

43:28

has a famous aunt, like he has

43:30

a famous uncle, 'The famous.

43:32

Her aren't as the country singer

43:34

Barbara 'The who I've, like,

43:36

vaguely heard of before. Mhmm.

43:39

But I do think she'll be like a 'The for

43:42

sure. Also, you have to be intrigued

43:44

by the one person to get last name. Like, was

43:46

that a mistake? Was that intentional? Like,

43:49

what's going on? I was like, I'm not addressing

43:52

the fact that her last name

43:54

is on this list and it was absolutely not

43:56

a mistake. It's like it's for

43:59

some reason -- Yeah. --

44:01

to She has a lot of Instagram

44:03

followers. Like, I mean, you know, she's a content

44:05

creator. Is she a singer? I

44:08

think she's, like, an aspiring singer.

44:10

Okay. So Maybe she I

44:12

required first and last. Maybe.

44:16

Can you just use that? I

44:18

think they're just trying to get her for a future

44:21

solo concert for a one on one day. Like,

44:23

she's not gonna win, but she will one day be

44:25

singing. It would be awesome if she was like,

44:27

and now Zach, I know that you're you're

44:29

taking me on a date, but now I will sync to you

44:31

with my mother and my my aunt. That would

44:33

be awesome. That is absolutely going

44:35

to happen That was a 'The, Julia.

44:38

I I just feel like that'd be great. Alright.

44:41

It's my turn. This one, I

44:43

wasn't sure I was gonna pick her, but I'm

44:46

going with Bailey. Twenty seven

44:48

executive recruiter from Nashville. Like

44:50

executive recruiter is a really good

44:53

bachelor role, just like being

44:56

a recruiter in HR. They just

44:58

feel like that's transferable to really anywhere.

45:00

She'll be ready to 'The. Like, NASH spells good

45:02

city for Zach. His vanilla nest will

45:05

just fit right in. I just feel like it could be a 'The.

45:07

And there was just something about her that

45:09

was like So she looks at she's like a

45:11

tiny bit of Rachel's look. I think it's her

45:13

hair that I felt like

45:15

perhaps he'd be into. 'The about

45:17

her just seemed like she would go far even

45:19

if she's not like for 'The, but she's just

45:21

sort of like basic gal. I feel like

45:23

she's a little sousie Evans ish. I

45:27

don't know. There's just something about her. I'm like, yeah. This

45:29

seems like someone made in the Bachelor' factory

45:31

would love to be a professional skydiver. Likes

45:33

her 'The spicy, named her dog Charlie

45:36

after Charlie Brown. That's like also, like, someone who

45:38

doesn't really understand Charlie Brown. Julia,

45:42

is this something about her that she looks exactly

45:45

like Kelly from Peter's season? I

45:47

think she also looks like she

45:49

looks like Cali remember Ashley

45:52

from Bradwell Mac season? It was like

45:54

Ashley, Capital L Lee. She

45:56

looks like her as well. She doesn't

45:58

work like a lot of I have the same thought

46:00

of, like, she has a specific look.

46:03

She'll I think she also kinda looks like Calin.

46:05

Who's marrying Dean. Like, she just there's,

46:08

like, one of her each season. She's

46:10

also, like, I'm looking to travel and go on adventures.

46:12

Like, she's available to move her life. Wherever

46:15

she needs to for Zach. I just feel like this

46:17

this person she's she's doing

46:19

go far. I I can Oh, yeah. You can recruit

46:21

executives 'The You can recruit them

46:23

right from this pool of bachelor

46:25

contestants. Okay.

46:28

Next pick I don't know if this is

46:30

a good pick, but she's just I've got a feeling about

46:32

her. Ali, twenty six, healthcare

46:35

strategist from Atlanta, Georgia, more

46:37

in healthcare industry.

46:40

Also, she similarly lives in

46:42

Georgia, but she's really from Texas. So

46:44

she's got the Texas connection, but it's not

46:46

the headline. Just a a weird

46:49

thing. She's just passionate

46:51

about her work in healthcare. She is about Disneyland.

46:55

What really seal of the deal for me was that

46:57

she loves broccoli, but hates broccoli.

47:00

They basically taste the same. So

47:02

completely disagree, and I'm the exact

47:05

opposite. Know that broccoli is

47:07

fancier, but I do not like

47:09

the way it tastes and I have no issue with broccoli.

47:12

I like both and they're pretty similar. You're weird.

47:15

The bio technically right. I just

47:17

don't think they're similar. I agree with

47:19

Jody. Definitely not similar, but

47:21

I like both. Yeah. 'The too.

47:23

Also, that was my pick. So thank you.

47:26

was studying her bio as you were talking

47:28

to get ready to talk, and I realized you were reading what I

47:30

was reading at the same time. And

47:33

you you left out that she has

47:35

a fucking golden doodle named Texas.

47:38

Yeah. That's weird. No.

47:40

That's such a great dog name. It

47:43

is also aligns with

47:46

Zach. It's true. As

47:48

we know, travels

47:50

between Texas and Disneyland, weekly.

47:53

Also, I just wanna say, like, love when

47:55

there's something that's just like a little bit weird, proud

47:57

collector of porcelain dolls. That's weird.

47:59

Like, that sounds just weird. That's creepy.

48:01

That's deeply upsetting. Yeah. I

48:04

guess she grew up in Houston because she went to the same high

48:06

school as Beyonce. And I

48:09

think we'll be getting a lot of Allie. She's also extremely

48:11

pretty. Very pretty.

48:14

Alright. F u.

48:17

My fourth pick since

48:20

wait. Let me cross off Ali. Getting

48:23

down near the bottom of my list

48:25

now. I

48:27

have Greer Oh,

48:30

that was my pick. I'm

48:32

gonna have to pivot green. All of the medical

48:35

girls are off the market. Grier

48:38

is also from Houston, Texas, which is

48:40

I imagine that was where Ali is from. Yes.

48:44

She's bold. And hilarious woman

48:47

who can speak her mind. So I think she could

48:49

be a, you know, a

48:51

high impact person, but I actually picked her

48:53

someone who could marry

48:57

Zach based off of just looks.

48:59

Just just looks alone. She

49:02

looks like someone that maybe Zach

49:04

might be interested in.

49:06

I think she seems like someone who will certainly

49:08

be more stunning, like,

49:11

on the TV show. Like, sometimes these pictures make people

49:13

look worse, and they're also really pretty. But

49:15

get the impression that, like, Greer

49:17

will look like a lot. She'll make much

49:20

bigger impression on the TV show. I

49:23

think that she will have

49:25

it 'The an impression on the show. Her

49:27

bio goes to great lengths to

49:29

explain that she's hilarious, which is

49:32

always funny because it's a difficult thing to

49:34

explain and I unfortunately

49:36

feel that if I were writing one of these bios about

49:38

myself, I would also be trying really hard

49:40

to explain that, like, I have a big personality and

49:43

then it would just end up being, like, your ass

49:45

is not funny, but she gave me

49:47

kind of like a Katie Thirsten vibe

49:50

in that way and it made me

49:52

think about Zach and how he was

49:54

on the season with Bachelor', and it reminded

49:56

me of a term that I

49:58

from sex lives of college girls, which

50:00

Juliet and I recapped on

50:03

prestige TV podcast, check it out.

50:05

That phrase is chuckle fucker. And

50:09

In in the show, they use it as just someone

50:11

who, like, likes funny girls, but I

50:14

later was informed that it, like, in the real

50:16

world, it's someone who, like, hooks

50:18

up and seeks out 'The, but Zach kind

50:20

of strikes me as a chuckle fucker. Like,

50:22

I think he just really likes to giggle and

50:25

laugh and maybe if Grier is, like, legitimately

50:27

very funny or even just

50:29

kind of funny. I think he would really enjoy

50:32

that. So a chuckle fucker is someone

50:34

who seeks out 'The. That

50:36

is what someone told me on Twitter

50:38

after I said it wasn't a real thing. I

50:41

What's an anti chuckle fucker? Because that's me.

50:43

I would like 'The to stay as far away as

50:45

possible. How do

50:48

I learn funny people? Not professionally

50:50

funny people. Correct. Me too.

50:53

'The. Yeah. So I like many people. I don't like 'The.

50:57

So I'd like to know very 'The you.

50:59

Struggle fucker. What did you say, Kelly?

51:01

I don't have, like, a lot of interaction with, like,

51:03

professional 'The, so I can't say I don't

51:06

like 'The. But I don't think that I would

51:08

actively look for a 'The, but I would

51:10

say that humor is a big

51:12

thing to me that is appealing. Sure.

51:15

You heard it here first, Cali. It's a

51:17

jumbo fire. I'll just

51:19

say I might be. I

51:21

think probably many women who spent their

51:23

twenties on dating apps in

51:25

Los Angeles. Would also describe themselves

51:27

as anti chuckle fuckers. It's a very specific

51:30

LA dating 'The. So just,

51:34

you know, some scar tissue. Okay.

51:38

Great pick. I wasn't

51:40

sure where would would get chosen, but

51:42

I'm glad she did. Jody,

51:44

it's your final two picks. Wow.

51:47

Once again, who could have possibly anticipated

51:49

this? I am prepared with one. And

51:53

I will think while I notify you of who

51:55

she is. My

51:58

next pick is REL,

52:02

h twenty eight, marketing executive,

52:04

fucking executive. I

52:08

believe I believe that Ariel is an executive.

52:10

I believe that she has people under her. I believe that

52:12

she is making decisions and that

52:15

she is a big wig city gal.

52:18

She was on my list as well. She

52:21

I don't think I liked her and I I

52:23

think that she just seems like actually

52:25

too substantive and too normal of a person.

52:28

Like, here are some things that, like, I

52:30

think that about her that also apply

52:32

to me quite frankly. She loves in New York

52:34

City. She loves street architectural digest.

52:37

Dancing to Abba makes her smile. She's

52:41

just like you know, she likes to

52:43

explore her hometown of New York City by going

52:45

on long walks 'The listening to Siza. Yes,

52:48

I I think this sounds like a very reasonable

52:50

person. And here's what I think, Juliet.

52:52

I think if Zach sort

52:55

of small town seeming simple

52:57

boy were to meet you and

52:59

all of your great cultural interest

53:01

and your home place of New York City

53:03

and how fascinating and intelligent you

53:06

are, he would be like, I've gotta

53:08

lock this down. I think that Zach has an

53:10

idea of who he

53:12

wants and that person is like

53:14

big and bold and cultured

53:17

like REL. I think it's probably

53:19

not gonna work out because would

53:22

will Ariel want Zach back? I'm not

53:24

sure. But I I could see

53:26

him and I

53:28

personally am very moved

53:31

by the opposites attract agenda.

53:34

I want that for Zach. I want

53:36

him to attract an opposite who

53:38

will push him and challenge him and make

53:40

him a more interesting bachelor.

53:42

Do I think he's gonna be able to successfully pull

53:44

that off? No. I do not have something

53:47

yet. She's still 'The my pick. Okay.

53:50

I would say Ariel is is top five

53:52

percent of looks of this group. She's very

53:54

pretty. She is very pretty.

53:56

Wow. Sally does not agree. It's kind of

53:58

like this is the Emily in Paris though. Like, I I

54:00

I'm, like, afraid, I wish you guys watched that show because

54:03

this is like the same thing. Because

54:05

it greatly impacts your life. I

54:07

didn't realize he's gonna get eliminated

54:10

and night one. No. Wait.

54:12

You've got lover. Yeah. She's also from a

54:14

big Ukrainian family. I'm trying to get to

54:17

that hometown date. I hope she I'm

54:19

not sure she's actually from New York City.

54:22

They want you to think she is, but it's unclear.

54:24

She also loves reading architectural digest.

54:26

I guess I just wanna be your friend. This

54:28

is one for this was the one for 'The. One for him.

54:31

One for 'The. Okay. One and

54:33

my and my next pick because I am

54:35

up next and everyone understands a snakedraft

54:38

is one last one for 'The, which

54:40

is Brianna, who

54:44

got the first impression rose

54:47

at the after the final rose, which

54:49

was a fan vote,

54:51

but I think it will have impact

54:54

on Zac in the way that he perceives Brianna.

54:56

It also I believe, literally

54:59

ensures that she'll make it past night

55:01

one and has ensured it for a long time.

55:03

So she'll probably come in with some

55:05

confidence, with some ease, Cali

55:07

disagrees. No.

55:09

No. No. You've been. I thought you thought you that

55:11

meant she was gonna come in with chip on her

55:14

shoulder. She just she's very

55:16

pretty. She looks -- Yeah.

55:19

-- she looks nice to the extent that

55:21

you can look nice. She runs her

55:23

own beauty 'The, so

55:25

she's smart and successful just

55:27

like Bachelor' likes them in the vision that I

55:29

have of Zach in my head. And

55:32

she created her own language as a child, which

55:34

means she's secretly, deeply weird.

55:37

Also, she got Which are those. Right? Yeah.

55:39

She got the she got the first 'The, Rose. It was

55:41

fan voted not Zac chosen, but

55:44

-- Yeah. -- but she got it. She's

55:46

cute. I didn't know what a CEO

55:49

was, but then I set it out loud and I said

55:51

yes. I was like, CEO.

55:53

I was really confused. I

55:56

think that Brianna will go will definitely

55:59

'The least think of one week because she got that rose, but

56:01

I think she's just, like, way too formidable for

56:03

Zach. Like, she seems like legit. She also

56:05

lived in Paris. Like, she's like a cultured person.

56:08

Yeah. She lived in Paris just like Juliet's

56:10

favorite character, Emily in Paris. I

56:14

did like that she created her own language as

56:16

a child. She's probably really smart. Yeah.

56:19

I mean, if if my greatest

56:21

dream for Zach is that he becomes of an

56:23

influencer couple couple, like,

56:25

she would be such a great influencer, and

56:27

she actually needs to be an influencer for

56:30

her real job, which is being a beauty

56:32

entrepreneur for her line of

56:34

beauty goods. Right. So I just feel that

56:37

the package is there and that she is gonna proliferate

56:39

through Bachelor' very easily

56:41

and successfully. Alright, great.

56:44

So your 'The, Katie Mercedes, Charity

56:46

Arielle and Brianna. We'll we'll check back

56:48

in. Kalle, not a lick of strategy

56:51

to that 'The. Didn't didn't think about the team

56:53

aspect one time. Kalle,

56:56

give us your fifth. This

56:58

is really, really, really hard.

57:01

K? I'll be on thestruggling. I'm

57:04

struggling, no, because then I'm giving you ideas.

57:07

But I'm struggling between

57:10

three picks, but I think I

57:12

think I'm gonna go with Alright.

57:15

I'm gonna go Kylie. Oh,

57:18

okay. See, I think Kylie on

57:20

'The alone is a good is a good pick. Like

57:22

-- Mhmm. -- Kylie, I feel like I'm in the future.

57:24

Yeah. We are sticking in the medical field.

57:27

Kylie is a postpartum 'The. Which

57:30

I think these people are so

57:32

important that are.

57:35

And the vibe that they give

57:37

is a vibe that I think that

57:40

Zach is looking for. She's

57:43

very, very cute She's also an

57:45

NBA dancer. So I feel like that brings,

57:47

like, a little spice to her. I

57:50

just I just I can't show up as gonna be too

57:52

much for Zach. it

57:55

do you are you assuming she's a hornet's dancer?

57:58

Yeah. I mean, I guess she's looking at Charlotte.

58:00

Yeah. That's that's what I think. I was just curious.

58:03

Carrie's a girl. Assuming that. She

58:06

is only twenty five, but she says she's ready

58:08

to be a soccer 'The. And

58:10

she's also someone who said that she falls in

58:12

love hard and fast, which what you need for this show.

58:16

So I'm all in on Kylie.

58:18

'The last pick of my dress. Okay.

58:21

I think it's a good pick. The postpartum nurse

58:23

piece of it is definitely a

58:25

good call. I I don't know.

58:27

There's there's some real good options still

58:29

on the board. I mean, I

58:31

think that I'm I'm like torn between the,

58:33

like, a a weird pick and, like, one that think

58:36

will actually net a

58:39

lot of screen time and just burp. Sorry, guys.

58:43

In case you're wondering, 'The eyes are

58:45

on Jess, the twenty three year old e

58:47

'The coordinator from Winter Springs, Florida,

58:50

who says she can play Banana 'The

58:52

all day. Or

58:55

and she's who you think would

58:57

actually make it far. I don't know.

58:59

She's just little bit young. She looks young

59:01

too. I'm like, I don't know if that's exact style.

59:04

Or the other one who I just think,

59:06

like, could also go far as Davia.

59:09

Davia, marketing manager from Charleston, South

59:11

Carolina. Who says no one's helped her through

59:13

more breakups in Taylor Swift. I mean, that's

59:15

just like some some real. Both

59:17

of the bios of these women mentioned Taylor

59:20

Swift, Julie. You

59:22

have a type. Also, Davia said

59:25

she likes seven husband's of Evelyn Hugo,

59:27

which I read. So that just

59:29

gave me some bias on her jacket. She's

59:31

probably participating in book talk, but

59:33

'The, I'm going with Jess, the twenty three year old

59:36

from Winter Springs, Florida. I'll see.

59:39

I think you picked the wrong pick because

59:41

based on what just happened, Davi

59:43

says she can outburb anyone, and think that's

59:46

a sign. That it should be it

59:48

should be your pick. Fuck.

59:50

Well, I've already made it. I'm

59:53

picking Jess. She says she's a

59:55

hopeless romantic. Share favorite

59:57

date activity is playing with puppies. I mean,

59:59

she doesn't leave the house without sunscreen, respect

1:00:02

it. And like I said, she could play banana 'The

1:00:04

all day. She just seems like this kind of

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like sweet person that Zac would like Alright,

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guys. Cali

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has Becca, Olivia, l, Christina 'The,

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full name, of course. Greer, Kai, and

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Kylie, I have Holland, Brooklyn. I guess, I

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went for places, basically, in

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France. For all of

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you went for places, are all of picks

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in the I feel like Cali basically created, like,

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a triage team. Like, they're all At

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Cali, it's all good all. Kelly's

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'The. We can take care

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of all of your needs. And

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I've got the app list on my side. Well,

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I'm excited to see how these people

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did. I will say this does get my energy up

1:00:46

for the season. I'm like, alright, great. Let's see who's

1:00:48

gonna be good. I have one

1:00:50

final question for you guys before we

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hop off. Are you in or are

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you out on the pairing of Tyler

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Cameron and Kristin Bachelor'? Jody,

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n. Why not? Cali?

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N. I'm also n. You know?

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I think that Tyler I don't think he

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was dating