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1:11

Welcome to voucher party. I'm Julia

1:13

Littman. I'm joined by Amelia

1:16

Wettemeyer. Amelia, wonderful

1:18

to see you. It's been so long. Oh my god,

1:20

Juliet. I know. This is

1:24

I just feel like, wow, that's our

1:26

nation. Yeah. We're

1:28

we're still going. It's, you know, we're

1:30

still. It's the off season. We're

1:32

-- Right. Oh, so over a

1:34

month out from Zach, which thanks goodness.

1:36

It's January twenty third. I kinda

1:38

like you can't believe that the show is

1:40

continuing on. I don't know why, but, like,

1:42

This act really what we want for our future. I don't

1:45

know. Yeah. And I think they picked him too.

1:47

It's kinda like, I know. Are you serious? But

1:49

Okay. No. No offense. Sorry.

1:51

That's fine. I think

1:54

until we get to know, Zach, we can insult him

1:56

and not have to apologize. You know, it's just sort of

1:58

insulting like the universe. because we

1:59

don't we don't really know this guy yet. We don't

2:02

know him. All we really know is that his uncle

2:04

is David Putty. I know. To

2:06

some crog from the emperor's

2:08

new group. So I've never seen emperor's new group,

2:10

I don't think. Oh, it's cute. It's I

2:13

wouldn't say it's like, wow, the best Disney

2:15

animated film I've ever seen, but it's cute.

2:17

Okay. Noted. We're

2:19

here today to do a bit of a news up,

2:22

a few bits and bits and bobs.

2:24

Is that what they say bits and bobs? Sounds

2:26

good. So

2:28

I know. Did you see that Matt is leaving Great British

2:30

Bake Off? I did see that.

2:33

It's a box is a British thing. That's what made

2:35

me think of it. I know.

2:37

I saw that. I was like, oh, just as he was,

2:39

I feel like really getting into his

2:41

finding

2:42

silver zone. Yeah. Exactly. It's

2:44

too bad. Maybe he'll be the next bachelor in

2:46

the UK. Just kidding. I don't know anything about his

2:48

love life.

2:50

I don't know.

2:51

That was just

2:53

some other reality news, but there's some other stuff

2:55

that's just been percolating, some fallout since

2:57

the end of paradise as well. last

3:01

saying a lot of bachelor people or on

3:03

Tuesday, and I should say a lot of bachelor people

3:05

went to the people's choice

3:07

awards, which The People's

3:09

Choice Awards is not an award show.

3:11

I'll talk about or respect Bachelor

3:15

people show up at it every year, which is,

3:17

like, no. I

3:18

don't know. Is that on your radar?

3:20

No.

3:20

Of course not. I mean, like, I'm

3:22

I'm thinking critics

3:23

choice awards before I think people's choice

3:26

awards, you know? I mean,

3:28

as people who spend a lot time on the Internet, I

3:30

think we know that fan voted awards are, like,

3:32

pretty pretty -- Tracey. --

3:34

pretty bad. -- and compromised. Yes.

3:37

Extremely compromise. Oh

3:39

my god. Like, there's different

3:41

bots and whatnot. So quite a few

3:43

people went. Rachel and Gabby went. Did you

3:45

see pictures of him on the red carpet? I

3:47

did. And listen, I

3:51

god. I you know what? I

3:54

really

3:56

hated their I'll be honest. And

3:58

It was tough to get through. I

3:59

get it. It was tough. And also

4:02

not a huge Roundup I know you and Cali

4:04

aren't of Rachel's fashion.

4:07

And once again, it

4:08

was pretty bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

4:11

It's just kind of shocking.

4:13

Like, what is going on with with

4:16

how Bachelor I mean, I

4:18

guess if she liked how she dressed

4:21

in on the season because it

4:23

was a continuation. Also, I feel like

4:25

I've seen this dress before. So so it's the PCA

4:27

issues wearing like a long black

4:30

tube dress with a white piping

4:32

of a top. It's like a band of white and

4:34

then white stripes on the side. And I'm like,

4:36

I know that I've seen this dress before, but

4:38

I can't remember where You

4:40

know what it reminds me of? It reminds

4:42

me of Julia Roberts Oscar

4:44

dress. Oh. With that

4:46

one? Yeah. But without the strap. because I think

4:48

hers had straps. and it's like they cut off

4:50

the straps or something. Oh, interesting. It

4:52

also kind of reminds me of the dress that Lindsay

4:55

Lohan wears and mean girls to to when she

4:57

throws any bun, she's a little sample.

4:59

God. Yeah. Okay. It

5:01

just was it was and then she was also

5:03

wearing, like, those long gloves

5:05

that go up to your which is just

5:07

like your former or your middle of

5:09

your bicep.

5:10

And it was such a try hard

5:12

outfit that just also doesn't didn't look good.

5:14

I will say I feel like she

5:16

looked more put together,

5:19

but it just it just was bad.

5:21

I don't know. Does she have bad fashion or does she have

5:23

bad people around her? I think at

5:25

this point, you have to assume she has bad

5:27

passion or just she likes weird

5:29

stuff, like weird matronly stuff.

5:31

Like, this just

5:33

Yeah. It was weird. No

5:36

fun. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, girl.

5:38

Amelia, this is a no apology zone. You know,

5:40

we we have our take so we stand by them. What

5:42

can we do? Well, you look horrible

5:44

I'm not kidding. I'm kidding. She's

5:46

a beautiful person, but, like, just

5:48

bad dress.

5:49

Really bad. Also, I feel like her hair

5:52

think she needs to cut it. I think that's part of the problem.

5:54

It's too long. That would be cute. She would

5:56

look so cute with short hair. Yeah. Everyone

5:58

elsey did like the like like, the long

6:00

the long cut is straight.

6:02

Yeah. That's what we need for Rachel too because

6:04

it should be not good.

6:06

So good. Yeah. Gabby was

6:08

wearing I don't even know how to describe it.

6:10

Gabby's dress, I didn't particularly love, but

6:12

she looked good in it. It was like both

6:14

sheer and velvet It

6:16

had a real holidays vibe to it, which I

6:18

liked as well even though they're in LA. Like,

6:20

it read Christmas to me. Yeah.

6:22

Yes. because it was like that, like, darker

6:24

mask see color kind of Yes. Exactly.

6:27

Do you

6:27

think Gabby's upset about her breakup with Eric?

6:30

No.

6:30

I think she's, like, I wanna date

6:33

Jenny from Jersey

6:35

Shore. And I'm I

6:37

ship those too. I think I

6:39

think

6:39

that would be great couple. I love it.

6:41

Gabby definitely needs to be a with a funny

6:43

guy. I I think Vinnie actually is funny.

6:45

I've I've always liked Vinnie. Even when he

6:47

became like a, you know, slightly

6:50

slight monster because he was famous. Like, he's always

6:52

been lovable. He's

6:53

always been lovable. He's always been pretty

6:55

down to earth, pretty But

6:57

most normal of the

6:59

cast of Jersey Shore. That

7:01

was the most part, you know? Yes. Definitely.

7:03

The one person that you probably could, like, see

7:05

yourself hanging out with, if if you're

7:07

Gabby, and she really can't see yourself hanging

7:09

out with him, I guess.

7:12

I just don't think she seems remotely

7:14

upset about breaking up with Eric. So

7:16

maybe

7:16

she's hiding it really well, but I

7:18

guess I'm a little bit surprised by how little

7:20

she seems affected since She seemed

7:22

excited about him at the reunion. Yeah.

7:25

I mean, I think she probably watched

7:27

this season too and was like, oh, god.

7:29

I really got the short end of the stickier.

7:31

because I personally know but I

7:33

know. I'm sorry. I may really hate a record coach Rachel.

7:36

I wish her the best in life, but I never

7:38

need to see her again. Never again on

7:40

our TV. never again. And I

7:42

just think that they did

7:44

gabby dirty and honestly

7:47

did the entire franchise because I

7:49

think a solo Gabby season would have been

7:51

really fun. Mhmm. But whatever

7:53

reason, they decided to pair her with Rachel and

7:55

just it just wasn't fun. I

7:57

know. I think a I think Gabby

7:59

could have been more

7:59

like a Katie like, what I wanted

8:02

Katie to be, which was Yes. goofy

8:04

and fun without being really

8:07

self righteous and Hannah

8:09

Brown too. Yes. Yes.

8:11

Exactly. Gabby would solo

8:14

Gabby would have been great. But, like, now I don't want her

8:16

to do solo. I want her to just break

8:18

free and -- Yeah. -- normal dating life,

8:20

I guess. Me

8:21

too. Who would could you see her

8:23

with

8:23

other than Vinnie? Interesting.

8:25

I think someone one

8:27

thing I like about her in Vinnie is he seems like

8:29

very calm it, and I didn't think she needs the

8:31

one who was, like,

8:32

super secure. because I think -- Yeah. -- for all

8:35

of, like, her, like, issues

8:37

around related to, like, situation with

8:39

her mom, I think she does seem really,

8:41

really confident and secure. And, like, she needs

8:43

to be met on that level. That's, like, part of the

8:45

problem there. He clearly was not that

8:47

He's

8:47

a he's a little boy, if you will.

8:50

I think that also Vinny has a

8:52

great relationship with his mom. If you've

8:54

ever seen I rewatched Jersey Shore rate

8:56

recently, and we're also a

8:58

boy because I just I love that

9:00

show. It is a great show. Season one

9:02

is awesome. And I

9:04

love them in Miami. I love them in Italy. I

9:06

love season three. When Dina is

9:08

introduced, the first four seasons of

9:10

that show are just There's like a

9:12

fight every episode. I'm not condoning

9:14

physical violence, but

9:15

listen, if there are two people

9:17

of

9:18

the same gender, who wanna fight each

9:20

other and they're both consenting

9:23

adults. I will tune in.

9:25

That's

9:26

usually what people say about, like, relationships

9:29

with for you. It's fights. That's great stuff.

9:31

Yeah. Jersey

9:33

Shore also

9:34

just speaks to, like, a totally

9:36

different time in life. Like, Yes.

9:38

First of all, the people are just,

9:41

like, know too much about reality TV at

9:43

this point to to behave that way.

9:45

Yeah. And part of

9:47

the genius of it was them, like, actually

9:49

living at the Jersey Shore and, like, going out

9:51

to those shitty clubs on the -- Yeah. -- at

9:53

the Jersey Shore. And on the Boardwalk.

9:55

Yeah. Exactly. And working

9:57

at that Gross t shirt shop

9:59

-- The store? -- store. Yeah. Exactly.

10:01

It was Danny. Yeah. It was Danny.

10:03

Exactly. I know. I love that. I

10:05

thought those really Great show. Great show. Great

10:07

show. That would be a lot more fun

10:09

with, like, a Bachelor in paradise. It was

10:12

instead of them being secluded, was them all,

10:15

like, them pursuing each other while

10:17

also being pursued by

10:19

the general public. Yeah. They had to,

10:21

like, choose There would be so many fights

10:23

over the guys wanting to bring back home

10:25

but the girls in the house being into

10:26

them. Like, that would be awesome. That would be

10:28

so I would love to watch that. That

10:30

would be really Bachelor nation

10:33

really wants to include because I always feel like we

10:35

wanna include the people

10:37

of bachelor nation, but they don't know how to do it.

10:39

Yeah. This is how they could do it. Yeah.

10:41

It's like it's like, it's like a

10:43

lot of different reality shows together, like, temptation

10:46

island or, like, the

10:48

ultimatum? It's like, are you choosing me

10:50

and staying in this house? Or are you

10:52

choosing to move down the boardwalk and date the

10:54

random down the street?

10:55

I would

10:59

love to see that. Yeah. I would

11:01

too. I don't I can't

11:03

nail on top my head who I feel like is the

11:05

right fit Gabby, but it's gotta be someone

11:07

great. I similarly, I just part

11:09

of the problem with it that season of the bachelorette is

11:11

we didn't get to know Rachel and Gabby. So

11:13

I'm like, this is who they should date. I have no idea.

11:16

You're so right. And I think, again, having

11:18

the two people, it's like, where

11:19

are we going? Like, what is the narrative

11:21

here? because there was there were too many like,

11:23

even the fact that they had to get rid of one

11:25

of or they did the hometowns where we only

11:28

saw, like, five one night and then

11:30

two of the other night was, like, so weird. It was just

11:32

like, I this is so disconjointed.

11:34

going to

11:35

I agree. They really

11:37

mess up the pacing. And

11:39

-- Yeah. I think that's part of the problem. Like,

11:41

Callie and I talked with this quite a bit. Bachelor Paradise

11:44

and the Bachelorette. The

11:46

rose

11:46

ceremony, like, cadence was

11:48

so off. Mhmm. You didn't really notice

11:50

how much time was left, where you were

11:52

in the season, how long has

11:54

it been?

11:55

It was probably yeah. Bachelor

11:57

of Paradise. When they

11:59

the

11:59

gave us, like, four

12:02

straight episodes without a rose ceremony, it's

12:04

like, are you a kid? Do you know how reality

12:06

TV competition shows, this kind of

12:08

competition works.

12:09

I know. And you

12:11

just need, like, you you need, like, some kind

12:14

of, like, Tronome to, like, let you know what you need is

12:16

here. And it was -- Exactly. -- totally

12:18

without it. It

12:19

was rough. Wow. Some

12:21

other other people that were at the PCA's

12:23

last site

12:24

Nick and Natalie. Nick,

12:26

by all and Natalie, Joy. I actually don't even know if

12:28

that's her real last name, but that's just I don't really

12:30

know her from Instagram slash read

12:33

it. I did not

12:35

know this, but you brought to my attention that

12:37

Natalie got the exact same

12:39

tattoo as Caitlin Bristow. Like,

12:42

what going on there. It's so weird. So I

12:44

went over to Reddit knowing

12:45

-- Yes. -- they always have the good info.

12:48

And someone

12:49

found out

12:51

that they

12:52

they have the same in the same

12:54

placement too of, like,

12:55

a little rose or

12:57

little flower unlike the little

13:00

nook of their Right about

13:01

their elbow. Right about their elbow

13:04

inside. It was it's like it's the same

13:05

exact thing. Caelons

13:07

is right below. It's really

13:09

weird. I mean, but it's, like, so

13:11

close. Like, so Yeah. It's

13:13

and it's, like, literally the same

13:16

style. It's so weird.

13:17

It's really weird. I

13:20

don't understand. I don't

13:22

either. It just makes me laugh. Me

13:24

too. I mean, like, there's

13:25

nothing you can do but laugh because it's like,

13:27

oh,

13:28

what? Like, is you okay? I

13:30

just I, you know, I know your

13:32

friends with Nick. So I'm

13:34

not gonna I'm not mean. I'm not gonna be

13:36

mean, but I will say, she

13:38

has had several weird blips where she

13:40

like, remember when she I'm sorry. I will never forget

13:43

this when she took the same

13:45

exact Instagram copy

13:47

from Billy Eilish's brother's

13:48

girlfriend. Yes. Yes.

13:51

And use for a post for

13:53

Nick, I what is

13:54

I just? It's like one of

13:57

two things. It's either deeply unimaginative,

13:58

which is probably what it is.

14:00

or has, like, a

14:02

single single white female

14:04

ing of many people out.

14:06

Multiple women. Yeah. Yeah.

14:08

which, you know, it's good to have role models.

14:10

Maybe

14:10

I actually get a few more, but -- Oh,

14:13

okay. -- it's a it's a pretty weird

14:15

tattoo, I guess. I mean,

14:17

Is that a common it's like a it's a line

14:19

drawing of a rose, basically. Yeah.

14:21

I

14:21

mean, I'm sure it is. I'm sure, you

14:24

know, like a a rose is probably a

14:26

very common head too. But just

14:28

like the style is very similar

14:30

-- Yeah. -- the placement is very similar.

14:32

It's just I would rethink it. If

14:34

I knew that my boyfriend's

14:36

ex had a similar to I

14:38

mean, it's just --

14:39

Awesome. -- the rose has specific

14:42

meaning in Bachelor Nation. So -- Right.

14:44

I don't know if Caitlin had it before she went on the

14:46

show. I think she may have. But

14:49

either way, it has, like, a real bachelor

14:51

implication. And when you're dating a

14:53

bachelor person, hard to separate

14:55

from that. But the two of them, we got a picture with

14:57

Ryan Reynolds, which is pretty cool. Although Is

14:59

there anything? like, Brian Reynolds, but

15:01

Well, I thought I liked him and then I

15:03

started watching welcome to Rexam. I

15:05

think that's the name of the show on -- Oh,

15:07

yeah. -- FX with him and a brought honey.

15:09

And I I was not I was

15:10

not so into him. However, I

15:12

am really into Chris Hamsworth. Have

15:14

you seen the author movies? I've

15:17

seen one movie. I

15:19

just bring it up because of Marvel.

15:21

I've been watching limitless on National

15:24

Geographic on Disney plus, which is --

15:26

Oh. -- Chris Hamsworth's sixth

15:28

episode pursuit of

15:30

trying to live longer, and

15:32

I'm now in a pair of social relationship with

15:34

Chris Hemsworth. I love him so

15:36

much.

15:37

Wait. Really? Yes.

15:39

He's like Did you like

15:41

him before Thor? Or

15:43

I've only I've never

15:45

really seen Thor. I saw Ragnarok

15:47

when drunk. So

15:49

I I wouldn't say I haven't

15:51

really seen it.

15:52

I liked Chris Hemsworth

15:54

probably seen, like, a fun like,

15:56

idea and I like that him and Matt Damon were

15:58

like good friends,

15:59

but -- That's -- I've

15:59

been filling my bachelor less time

16:02

with watching limitless. Like, in and

16:04

I fall asleep to it at night. Oh. So I

16:06

go back and, like, I am, like, oh, I fell sleep

16:08

at. So I watch it basically in,

16:09

like, twenty minute increments. and

16:13

I'm obsessed with Chris Hemsworth

16:15

now. That's so funny. Have I told you

16:17

that I I've met him before? No.

16:19

Was he nice? Yeah.

16:20

It was really nice. It was, like, one of these

16:22

interviews that I did when I was

16:24

working at Disney, and it was just,

16:26

like, at the end of the day, so it was, like, a really

16:28

there's, like, video evidence And

16:30

at the end of the day, and he was, like,

16:32

really exhausted. But he was still a really good sport and

16:35

he played, like, a little game that

16:37

we had

16:37

set up for himself. There was an

16:39

episode where he goes to the

16:41

Arctic

16:42

with his brothers Luke and Liam.

16:44

And so we're doing, like,

16:45

a cold water swim.

16:47

And, like, frigid though, it's like the Arctic and

16:50

winter. And

16:50

I I think he brought his brothers because, like,

16:52

at one point, he makes everyone jump in the ocean with him. And

16:54

I'm like, great. So we're just gonna see all of them with their

16:57

shirts off and, like, this beautiful dick

16:59

background and then they get into a hot tub. Like, okay.

17:01

Cool. I'm in. But My

17:04

my

17:04

love of this television show and I

17:06

guess

17:06

reality TV as well really,

17:09

like, explains why they

17:11

cast hand some people to be on television? because I'm like, would I

17:13

watch someone who was not? Chris

17:15

Hemsworth, do all of this stuff? Probably not.

17:18

Probably not. I

17:21

mean, but I I do really recommend

17:23

it. I also recommend Shark Beach, his

17:25

special on special geographic about

17:27

sharks. Oh, is it about him, like, trying to

17:29

get sharks to live longer too? Or

17:31

No. It's it's

17:32

about coming to terms with sharks being in

17:34

the ocean when he also likes to surf.

17:36

it's really

17:37

gonna be dating out. Well, it just

17:39

seems like he is abating their space. I don't

17:41

He acknowledges it. He says to

17:44

the show.

17:44

they live here. We're just visitors. He

17:47

gets it. Okay. He gets it.

17:49

Chris gets it. Alright. Best

17:51

course. I've taken this on a a

17:52

ridiculous detour. Anyway, They were

17:54

at the Nick and

17:57

Natalie were not with Chris Hemsworth. They

17:59

were with Ryan

17:59

Reynolds. But they also were

18:01

with Johnny, which brings

18:03

us to the ongoing Johnny versus Victoria and

18:05

Greg situation. Oh, gosh. Nick

18:07

is sort of the, like, referee of.

18:10

Yeah. And a real mediator there.

18:13

Call himself Switzerland, invited Johnny on his podcast.

18:15

He won't do it.

18:17

Wait, Johnny won't do it?

18:19

No. I

18:20

will not -- I don't

18:21

get Johnny on. -- I

18:23

don't know who won't be involved with them.

18:26

I don't know. I don't I've never

18:28

liked Johnny. Also, I think Colin feel

18:30

mixed about Victoria. She really was on

18:32

the up, and then I think her and Greg just totally blew

18:34

it at the reunion. He is interesting.

18:37

I will say I

18:39

think she is an

18:40

interesting character because I

18:43

think that

18:44

she is she's

18:45

like just essentially like a fuck girl

18:48

kind of Kinda.

18:48

I sort of like that though. No. I

18:50

didn't do. I'm not, like, not supportive of it. I

18:52

just think

18:55

she

18:55

almost tries

18:57

not to be or, like, she has a interesting

19:00

facing situation. Like, this whole Johnny thing,

19:02

I think was kind

19:04

of a front

19:05

facing, like, to get

19:06

me back into the and again, I'm just

19:09

speculating, this is my opinion. You don't have to

19:11

agree with me, but It

19:13

did seem like she

19:14

it

19:15

was just weird because every time she'd be like,

19:17

well, I want him to give me more

19:20

and, like, he's

19:20

so young and there were all these red flags and

19:22

she just totally didn't

19:24

care and, like,

19:26

ended up engaged to him at the end. It just didn't make

19:29

any sense to me, but it like, I

19:31

could see it playing out and people being like, wow.

19:33

She's really turned and quote

19:35

unquote a new leaf and she's a different

19:37

person and now I like her because she was not, like,

19:39

you know, like, that's why she

19:42

was not. She was definitely not

19:44

like she, you know, she

19:45

was

19:46

accused of being a home wrecker,

19:48

and then she had her

19:50

white

19:52

she had, like,

19:52

her Marlon's West Marlon's white

19:55

lives matter. Yeah. Yeah. The white

19:57

lives matter thing, which

19:59

was offensive.

19:59

they have I do think

20:01

that she seems like

20:04

she's grown up a bit since then. I hope that

20:06

also includes,

20:06

like, you know Sure. learning and

20:09

whatnot. So you

20:10

know, I don't know if she's earned the benefit of the doubt, but I will say that

20:12

the other people on the beach seem to really

20:14

like her. So I do hope that she probably

20:16

has improved as just like a human,

20:19

which is ultimately what we hope

20:21

for. But I thought that she just

20:23

seemed so, like,

20:25

Palace. Right. Kallyson is

20:27

just so like like she's

20:29

really focused on herself and,

20:30

like, very insensitive to to

20:33

Johnny, but

20:33

also I don't like him. think that's

20:35

why they're not interested in interviewing him. I'm just, like,

20:37

what what does

20:38

what is there

20:39

even good about him? Like, I I don't I

20:41

don't know that

20:41

there's, like, really a side to taken

20:44

in this

20:44

one because I just don't think he seems great in

20:46

any way. I agree with you, and I

20:48

don't like him either. I was, like, so bored

20:50

within the entire So that's why

20:52

it went to So it sticks out to me being like, she's so

20:55

fun and cool. Why would she ever

20:57

wanna, like, get with this

20:59

guy who seems like a loser and

21:02

has spoken maybe

21:03

three sentences the entire time, like,

21:05

barely remember. And oh, Mike,

21:07

please. No. No. No. I

21:10

mean Can I call her an f a c

21:12

word. That's not okay. No. It's not okay.

21:14

No. I think that's so messed up.

21:16

I'm not no. I think that's horrible. I mean, I

21:18

think he's a bad person too. I might all say

21:21

bad person. god. just feel

21:23

like, I

21:23

don't like I don't like him. But

21:25

I do

21:25

think the

21:27

way she conducted herself was just like,

21:29

this is like a regression from I feel like the

21:31

progress we might have made on

21:33

bachelor

21:33

of Paradise almost. I don't know. It was just

21:35

weird and just the way she was acting towards the

21:38

audience and towards

21:40

Everyone

21:40

else up there being like, I don't fucking

21:42

care, which is like, okay. Cool. You're cool.

21:44

Great. Thank you. I I just it was weird.

21:46

It was weird and just gave off, like, these, like,

21:48

fuck girl vibes, you know? Yeah. Which which I like?

21:50

I like her being a player, but I

21:52

also And she

21:53

should just own up to that the way that we also

21:56

like, fuck boys own up to it too.

21:58

Exact yes. Thank you.

21:59

That's what was missing. Is that

22:02

just be yeah. Own up

22:04

to it. Just be Just to tell us, you know, like, I

22:06

didn't like

22:07

him, so I'm moving on to this other guy.

22:09

Like, good.

22:10

I kind of can't

22:12

believe that Greg moved in with her in

22:14

Nashville. when they

22:15

moved in together? Yes. He moved to Nashville

22:17

and he moved in together. Wow.

22:20

Nashville. So what's where

22:20

she was living? She's from Virginia. So

22:23

Okay. I I could totally see him in Nashville. I act

22:25

like I know him. Really? Yeah. I

22:27

I don't know him in case you're wondering.

22:29

I

22:29

just like, if

22:31

see it. Well, he's weird too. I don't like him

22:32

either. I I know that

22:35

Cali's a group owner like him.

22:37

Yeah. But I just

22:38

i did you

22:39

or I'm

22:40

mixed. Cali was in on him. I was

22:43

like, I think he seems he's

22:45

better

22:45

when he doesn't talk. When he spoke on the ring, then

22:47

I was like, oh, god. This guy's cool.

22:49

He he's on cool, and the

22:52

way which she was like, yeah,

22:54

took

22:54

her day in Italy. Swear.

22:56

I

22:56

was like, no. What the

22:58

Okay. It was just like, I oh, it made

23:01

me, like, wanna itch myself. It

23:03

was really weird. I don't know. He just he had

23:05

the raw vibes with that.

23:07

too. But his full appearance, I was like,

23:09

are you okay? I don't know why he hate to do something.

23:11

It was no upside. It's very straight. And

23:13

just even I don't mean to

23:15

go back to Katy season, but the way in

23:17

which he left was weird too.

23:19

It was just he's just weird.

23:20

He was just a red flag to me. So

23:22

I don't know.

23:23

Hopefully, they Maybe they're good for each other

23:26

based on that. Seriously? Yeah.

23:29

Maybe. I

23:29

hope so. Who

23:31

knows? A couple other items I wanted to hit, mostly

23:33

related to Rachel and Gabbie's guys that and and

23:35

what they've been up to since. First of all, I

23:37

haven't checked

23:38

on this in a while. I just wanna

23:40

update on where Logan's at with his with

23:42

his plays on Spotify.

23:44

Oh my god. Logan now has two songs.

23:46

Last I checked it was only one, but now he machine

23:49

heart, all lowercase. And now

23:51

all capital, you never called me on

23:53

my birthday.

23:56

both songs have over forty nine

23:58

thousand listens.

23:59

I don't I don't know what's up

24:01

here, but their numbers are really close

24:03

together. This seems This seems like not Oh,

24:06

we're not right there.

24:07

Yes. Yeah. I

24:09

just I I can't I don't know.

24:11

I don't believe it, but the second song came

24:13

out on November twenty second, I guess, of the Thanksgiving surprise. I'm

24:16

gonna have to listen to it

24:18

later. But Logan has been

24:20

hanging out with many of the guys from

24:22

his OffSeason- Mhmm. -- including, I

24:25

think, recently with Eric.

24:28

And it seems like Eric is, like, down

24:30

with all these guys which is definitely a bad sign with him

24:32

in in Gabby. So I don't

24:34

like him. No. Me neither.

24:36

But who I do really like

24:38

is Jason and Jason wasn't this

24:41

full minute, maybe more than

24:42

a minute, TikTok yesterday, where

24:44

he's going to be he it's called,

24:47

you don't even know me.

24:49

and

24:49

he's doing like a series. I think of dates

24:51

where he's like talking

24:53

he's going on first dates and like getting

24:55

to know people because he really like

24:57

the intimacy of having real conversations when

24:59

he was on

25:00

the boat. Were you having fake conversations

25:02

before being on the boat? I don't I mean,

25:04

maybe, maybe that's why he had to go

25:07

on a show and why he was single? I I don't know. Why

25:09

he had to find himself on national

25:11

TV? Maybe. Yeah. III

25:14

don't know. but

25:16

it was a pretty weird video. Did you watch

25:18

it?

25:18

I did and it was it it

25:22

felt like like, a

25:24

registration for a self help class almost. It

25:26

was, like, hi, I'm Jason. I

25:28

had love conversations. Join me.

25:30

You know? It was just, like, I've

25:32

been trying really hard to get Jason on the pod and hasn't worked

25:34

out. And I wonder if it's because

25:36

he's like putting all of his eggs into his

25:38

this basket of his new project. I

25:41

don't know. I don't have

25:41

any proof, but just

25:43

a hunch.

25:45

He's a mystery, I guess.

25:47

Did you

25:48

like him? Oh, Yeah. I

25:50

did not like him. I thought he was really milk

25:52

toast. I was like, okay. I know you

25:54

liked him, but and he seems nice. He

25:56

seems genuinely like a nice guy. Yeah. He

25:58

seems like pretty normal. Like,

25:59

he's just, like, doing this thing. I don't

26:01

know.

26:02

I'm just, like, kinda confused. I'm, like, did you

26:04

not, like, get to know people beforehand? Like,

26:06

and this seems like a whole new venture,

26:08

like, to have. well, which I'm

26:11

glad, you know, now you can have in-depth

26:13

conversations with people. That's great. I I,

26:15

you know, I don't know. Just

26:17

they're strange, but I'm

26:18

happy for him. Yeah. I'm happy for him

26:21

too. On a different

26:23

note, Michelle is missing

26:25

from bachelor happy hour and people

26:27

think she's done for good on that pod,

26:29

which I don't listen to myself.

26:31

But I'm still

26:31

a little confused about what Michelle's

26:33

doing and like what her plans are.

26:36

think she back Minnesota and be a teacher.

26:39

Okay. She moved to LA.

26:41

Right? Yeah.

26:42

That's shockingly. I think someone

26:44

who will also move to min from Minnesota

26:46

to Los Angeles. But I I

26:48

mean, I wanted to be happy, but

26:51

if it's not

26:52

being a teacher, then fine, don't be a teacher, but

26:53

I I'm just worried about Michelle. I

26:56

hear you. I mean, it's just

26:58

I

26:58

hate when these people, like, have

27:01

a cool job of a

27:03

life. Yeah. And then they leave it thinking

27:06

because in reality, it's like how

27:08

many people can really benefit off of a

27:10

Bachelor, you know? I

27:11

think we're reading reaching maximum capacity. I think we

27:13

are too. So just

27:15

something

27:16

to consider. It's not it's

27:19

not great for everyone. Yeah.

27:21

Amelia, what are you most

27:23

hoping to see from Zach season? What kind

27:25

of changes do you want hope to get

27:28

out of? out

27:29

of our

27:30

next foray into the batch. I would I

27:32

have been hoping for years that

27:35

they would take an hour off of the

27:37

show, which I don't think they will do.

27:39

So I guess

27:42

cleaner

27:42

storylines

27:43

I wish

27:45

they would rehire that Elon

27:48

Gail guy. I

27:49

suppose that one was canceled.

27:51

Maybe he's available.

27:52

Boy, fuck boy Harley was canceled?

27:54

I

27:54

think it was part of HBO Max's

27:57

Whiping Whiping Clean, the slate

27:59

of unscripted.

27:59

Oh my god. That show was

28:01

really good. I just broke your

28:03

heart. Oh my god. I actually

28:06

oh my I love that

28:08

show. I know. It's a it is a real

28:10

downer. Alright. Great. That show's

28:12

really damn. Oh

28:14

my okay. Well, if you're listening. Sorry. No. It's

28:16

okay. Is it still straight? I hope it's still

28:18

straight. I'm sure it is. I bet it is.

28:20

People who

28:21

are listening to this and haven't seen

28:23

it go watch

28:24

it. It's really fun. It's true. You've got you've got

28:26

some good stuff ahead of you to watch.

28:28

Seriously. Lots of twists and turns. There's

28:30

a lot of comedy. there's

28:32

a lot of comedy. There's a lot of user

28:36

interaction almost because you get to guess who the

28:38

fuck boys are, which is Yeah. Also,

28:40

those are people who

28:41

own who own it. Victoria

28:43

would be an awesome girl in that show, actually.

28:45

Dude, she would

28:46

be okay. Speiler

28:48

alert, please skip ahead for the, like,

28:50

next, I don't know, fifteen seconds, but

28:52

in the second season. One of the girls

28:54

turns out to be an f girl and it's like, so

28:57

exciting. And

28:59

she kinda reminds me of Victoria a little bit.

29:01

So maybe that's why I'm like, okay. Yeah.

29:03

She would again. Which is great. I think

29:05

that's we need

29:06

more f girls. Like, hell yeah.

29:08

But be upfront about it, please.

29:10

Victoria would be good on a lot of different

29:12

shows. That's like kind of the bummer of her dating, Greg, and I hope

29:15

they break up because I think that she can have a big

29:17

reality future. And she's entertaining. She seems

29:19

fun. I know. And

29:19

did you see I don't know

29:22

whose some I think might have shared it. Maybe I

29:24

shared it in Bachelor where

29:26

Kevin Durant liked one of her Instagrams. I

29:28

was like, wow, that's big for her.

29:31

I know. I wonder how that came across

29:33

his timeline. He came across

29:35

his transom. I know I feel like now

29:37

is not the time to be tied down

29:39

by a guy. You know? I

29:42

know. Let fly, Victoria fly.

29:44

Exactly. And usually, you know,

29:47

these

29:48

backs are couples. Usually, like, they're strong

29:50

to like, you know, Jade and what's his

29:52

face? I can't even think his name is Claire. Yeah.

29:54

And Ashley and Jared, it's like they're

29:56

their couples, you know, or whatever. Jojo

29:59

and Jordan.

29:59

Jordan. But I think Victoria

30:02

she doesn't need Greg. Honestly,

30:04

Greg is weighing her down. Greg will hold her back. I agree

30:06

with you. Girl, she needs to fly. Now that we all

30:08

like her, it's just like, why are you settling down

30:10

now, girl? Right. You've won

30:12

us all over. Not only

30:14

that, but I think the personality has

30:16

changed around Greg. And not that I, like, know her or

30:18

anything, but I'm just, like, she's acting weird

30:21

around Greg. and I don't like it. She's just I

30:23

don't care. I'm like, yeah. Well, I care. And I

30:25

don't like you with grit. They're really into each

30:27

other. I wondered if they'll be doing Christmas together. That'd

30:29

be a big step. I

30:30

think big thanksgiving together. Well, they probably will be doing Christmas

30:32

together. If he moved in I know.

30:34

At that

30:35

point, yeah, do you separate? And I don't think so.

30:37

I don't think so. But

30:40

for

30:40

oh, also I read somewhere that Victoria's going

30:42

to be on this episode of

30:44

Zach Season. Yeah. I saw that in the

30:46

Supertiz. somewhere now.

30:47

So at least she's staying in the

30:49

fam. I'm happy about that at least. I guess,

30:51

but I think she's better

30:53

than Actually, I

30:54

mean, I just like, I would love to see her messing

30:56

it up on another route. Like, maybe

30:59

not housewives,

30:59

but, like, something, like, summer house or

31:01

when it's gonna be a challenge.

31:03

they the challenge. Yeah. Oh, wow. She

31:06

would be so fun to oh,

31:08

my god. And have, like, a relationship with,

31:10

like, I don't know, fighting more

31:12

guy bananas. Yes. I would

31:14

love that. Oh my god. too.

31:16

Is CT still married?

31:18

Maybe she can have a relationship with me. No.

31:20

CT is getting divorced. I believe he just

31:22

filed for

31:22

divorce. That's timing. Oh,

31:25

I

31:25

mean, really sad. Yeah. Yeah. You're like,

31:27

oh, sorry. I'm saying, damn.

31:29

Sorry.

31:29

I'm just, like, I'm, like,

31:32

as you can tell, like, how do

31:34

you feel? What do you feel? is growing up. Gotta

31:36

hold on to them. Yeah.

31:38

Exactly. But okay. Back to the

31:40

Zach thing. I I don't feel

31:42

like he's gonna be bad. He's not I

31:44

felt bad for him when Rachel broke

31:46

up with him, but then that was

31:49

that was a

31:49

very fast and quick emotion, and then I was like, I

31:51

don't care. Awesome. Again, I keep

31:54

forgetting it quickly in

31:55

general. I mean,

31:57

he's pretty forgettable, to be honest,

31:59

not great,

32:00

Bob. Well, we'll

32:02

be

32:02

finding out more. Emilia, thank you so

32:04

much for joining me for this news Roundup

32:08

Working on an interview for next week. Hope

32:10

it comes through. We'll keep you

32:12

all posted. Check out

32:14

Amelia on tee time on

32:16

ringerdish. I'm over there too.

32:18

Manda and I will be talking about

32:20

Harry and Meghan special. This weekend

32:22

to check that out, and also

32:24

check out the RingCentral reality TV podcast

32:27

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32:29

our colleagues. have a great weekend.

32:31

And of course, thank you to Erica Sarbanes

32:33

for producing this

32:34

podcast.